1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast, named vest Vetting Podcast or radio 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: show by the Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association and the 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: number one show for the invested sports fan. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: Throwing in job. I'm saying it's a cash touch. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 4: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 4: go to win. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: Big bank, small banks. I like to make money. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: All right, this is the ultimate. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: Kabba wall. 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: And we are underway. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another NFL Fantasy Flex episode 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: of the award winning Action Network podcast, presented by Bett MGM, 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: the official odds provider of the podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs. Here with me 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: are Shawn Corner and Chris Ravon. Shawn is the Action 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: Network director of Predictive Vane Lake. Chris is a senior 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: editor and analyst at the Action Network and they are 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: two of the best fantasy football rankers in the world. 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: Week two it was painful. It was as painful as 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: Week one was joyful. And we are moving on to 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: Week three and of course in this episode, as always, 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: we are highlighting the players at the top of our rankings, 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: which are live now in our fantasy tool at the 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: Action Network. We were discussing the guys were high and 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: low on, including daily fantasy values, fades, and tournament plays. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: For more on DFS, check out our Fantasy Labs models, 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: and as always, we're going to speculate on a couple 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: of prop bets for each position. And joining us in 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: his return to the show is Will Brenson, a senior 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: NFL writer for CBS Sports and the host of the 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: Pick six podcast. Will, How's it going? 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: What's going on? 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: Guys? 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back. It feels like four hundred 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: and thirty five years since my appearance on the show 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: last season. That's what a pandemic will do to you. 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: But pomped to talk some Week three and by the way, 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: in the word to paraphrase Bill Belichick, I'm on the DFS. 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. After week two, I'm on the DFS. 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how much I can salvage, having selected 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 2: second overall in multiple leagues this year. Yeah. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: I don't remember if you had the beard last year 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: or not, but you are. You're fully in the quarantine beard. 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 3: We are one hundred percent bearded podcast. 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All right, guys, let's get into the show, 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: and will I want you to kick it off by 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: talking about the guys that you have at the top 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: of the quarterback position in our rankings. We have Lamar Jackson, 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray. Who do you have as 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: your top three this week? 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: That is it? I mean there, look, you're taking Lamar. 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that you can get away from Russell. Actually, 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: know what, I take that back. I would have Lamar 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: up there. It's the other two guys that I would 74 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: want to include would be Dak and because I can't 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: quit him, Matthew Stafford, which is probably a mistake because 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: the Cardinals offense defense actually looks good. But I do 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: think Dak warrants inclusion. Obviously Mahomes as well. I think 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: that Mahomes can put up plenty of stats agains the Ravens, 79 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: and what should be a shootout of that total is 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: well north of fifty. But yeah, I mean Lamar, Russ, Kyler, 81 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: and then may throwing Dak. I think that would be 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: maybe a T three situation. I'm not sure how you 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: can bench Kyler the way he's running the ball, even 84 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: if you had Daks on your bench. For Kyler, Russ 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: is untouchable right now because of the way he's playing, 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: and the Cowboys defense stinks. And then Lamar is Lamar. 87 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: He's a a codebreaker. 88 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: All right, Sean, I want to kick it to you 89 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: here because the guy, and it's embarrassing to say this, 90 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: I have a problem, but the guy I have at 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: the top of the rankings is Josh Allen. And I 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: did this, you know, put everything in the models. He 93 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: came out as my number one guy and I looked 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: at it. I was like, this is incorrect, and I 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: went back in tweaked hi stuff and he was still 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: the guy at the top. And I should say there's 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: a separation of like less than half a point between 98 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson and Cam 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: Newton for me, So like there are like six guys 100 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: who are all kind of up there who you could 101 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: say could be in the top three legitimately. And as 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: we see the Vegas lines move, that will impact increasingly 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: who we end up having as the top three. But 104 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: who do you have as your top three guys? And 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: it's Josh Allen in there. 106 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Josh Allen just missed it. 107 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 5: But yeah, when I was going through the updates, you know, 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: my massive Monday update, and Cam Newton was number two 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 5: for a brief period. You know, I had to update 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 5: that crazy goal line, you know play that they run 111 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 5: his rushing touchdowns are gonna be pretty sustainable if they 112 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 5: keep that up. So he was number two, and then 113 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: I was updating the Bills, and then Josh Allen took 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 5: over number two, and then I got to the Seahawks 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 5: and Russ Wilson took out number two, and then I 116 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: got to the Cardinals and then Kyler Murray ended up 117 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 5: being my number two quarterback. So he's my number two 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: quarterback right now, and Russell Wilson is number three. But 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 5: you have you know, Josh Allen, Can Newton, Mahomes and 120 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: Dak all right there. So it's you know, QB two 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: through seven. You could make the case for any one 122 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 5: of these guys of b QB two. I think it 123 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 5: just loaded up the top at QB this year, so 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: it should be a fun week. 125 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: I think we'll learn a lot. 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: This week to see, you know, who should be the 127 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: top three going forward. But yeah, a lot of talent 128 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: up top. 129 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: Right now, Ray Bund, where are you on the top three? 130 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 6: I got Lamar number one, my guy, Russell Wilson number two. 131 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 6: He's just playing out of his out of his mind 132 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 6: and this has been happening for a while. I have 133 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: a piece up on Action network dot Com where I 134 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 6: talk about just how good he's been with pretty much 135 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 6: the worst O line in the league his entire career, 136 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 6: and all the other elite quarterbacks have had, you know, 137 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 6: great O lines. And then I have Kyler number three, 138 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 6: Mahomes number four, Dak five, Josh Allen six, Cam seven, 139 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 6: and Rogers eight. So that's kind of those eight guys 140 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 6: are I think, pretty legit and kind of locked in 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 6: at the top, in the top eight for me. 142 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: All Right, well, you mentioned Matt Stafford as a guy 143 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: you're high on this week. Is there anyone else that 144 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: you're relatively high on? 145 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I would say that Ryan Tannehill is 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: a guy that people are probably sleeping on for this week. 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that everyone has fully grasped how far 148 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings defense has fallen this off season. It 149 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: is awful. Like I don't Mike Zimmer was just signed 150 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: a contract extension, so I don't think he's gonna get fired. 151 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: But I mean, Mike cues. They they you know, they 152 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: put it in as their number one guy, ostensibly to 153 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: be their top cornerback. They don't have any veteran depth there. 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: You can't run a Zimmer scheme with no veteran depth 155 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: and no pass rush when you also want to be 156 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: a plotting run team. I mean this. The Vikings are 157 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: in contention for the number one overall pick. I legitimately 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: believe that they're that bad. Kirk Cousins doesn't seem comfortable 159 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: moving from you know, Kevin Sevanski to Gary Kubiak, which 160 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: is very weird. And I don't think that you will 161 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: ever see Zim open it up like he's not gonna 162 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: come out and just be like, you know what, screw it, 163 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: we don't have a defense. Let's open it up and 164 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: play offense, and it's not going to happen. So you 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: could see a situation where Tannehill and it could be 166 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: a little touchdown dependent because that's just how he is. 167 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: He's probably won't have a ton of volume, but I 168 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: think he could easily. He's been very fishing with the 169 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: red zone over the last year and a half. I 170 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: think he could easily have a big day in a 171 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: very very low ownership. 172 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Sean, who's the guy you're high on? 173 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: So I already mentioned him, But Kyler Murray is my 174 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 5: QB two. He's six point eight on DK, So you 175 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: have to take him at that price. You know, he 176 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 5: faced the Niners and then last week was the football team, 177 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: two pretty good defenses, and now he gets the Lions, 178 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 5: so I think we could see a true ceiling game 179 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: from him. His rushing upside has been insane this year, 180 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: you know, with ninety one yards and then sixty seven 181 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: three total touchdowns, and just having new Hopkins gives him 182 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: a true number one receiver. I mean, he doesn't have 183 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 5: to throw screen passes to Larry Fitzgerald and Trent Chirfield anymore. 184 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: He has a true legit alpha receiver. So I mean 185 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: he should go off this week and we'll see a 186 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 5: true ceiling game. And the other guy is you know, 187 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: Carson Wentz at five point eight K. He's my QB eleven. 188 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: And yeah, he's been garbage the first two games. But 189 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: if fantasy football as easy as taking the first two 190 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 5: games and copy and pasting it over said more times, 191 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: we wouldn't be playing fantasy football. 192 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: It'd be boring. So I'm expecting him to bounce back 193 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: this week against the Bengals. 194 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 5: If he doesn't, then he's absolutely droppable in season long 195 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: leagues because he has the Niners, Steelers and Ravens up next, 196 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: so he kind of has to perform in this game 197 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: rules it's over for him. So I think, you know, 198 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: Wentz and d Jacks or Jalen Rager Er Scoddard stacks 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: are all in play and GPP for me just because 200 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: I think he'll be under owned. So this is the 201 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 5: last chance for Wentz. And he's fifty eight hundred dollars 202 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 5: as my QB E love and I think he's worth 203 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 5: a play this week, Raymond. 204 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: What about you? 205 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well of Kiro, I think he's going to be 206 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: the cash game lock. He's underpriced. 207 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford in that same game at six point three 208 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 6: K will mention him. If he gets Gallady back, which 209 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: it looks like he may, his average depth of target 210 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 6: goes up to near league leading or league leading amounts, 211 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 6: and that be a major boost for him in a 212 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: game that has a total sitting around fifty three fifty four. 213 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: Miss Trubisky money, Mitch looks like another game where he 214 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 6: could cook. He's just five point seven K on DraftKings, 215 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 6: He's averaging two point five passing touchdowns, he's averaging twenty 216 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 6: one rushing yards, and the Falcons have been the worst 217 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 6: defense in the league against opposing quarterbacks. So that's a 218 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 6: matchup play where you just kind of hold your nose, 219 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 6: but it could end pretty well. They've not only given 220 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 6: up five passing touchdowns sixty five of eighty three for 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 6: seven hundred and seventy two yards, but he also gave 222 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 6: up the you know, eight for forty seven and three 223 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 6: on the ground, and Trubisky's moving a little bit more. 224 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: So really like him in this spot as well. 225 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: All Right, a couple guys I like one is playing 226 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: on Thursday night football, Gardner Minshew going against the Dolphins. 227 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: I mean, just slam it. I mean it's the Dolphins 228 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: are still so bad on defense, and now Byron Jones 229 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: is out, I believe with a growing injury, and so 230 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: they're once again just starting to funnel through undrafted guys 231 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: into that secondary. You have Nick Needelm playing slot cornerback. 232 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: It's just it's such a great matchup, and I've been 233 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: really impressed with what we've seen out of Minshew. He 234 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: still has the rushing floor, but he has the ability 235 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: to be pretty efficient as a passer, So really like him. 236 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: And then I mentioned Josh Allen as the guy that 237 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: I somehow have number one in my rankings. I'm gonna 238 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: have to adjust this, but I mean, he's granted, he 239 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: has had two great matchups to start the year, but 240 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: he's the number one fantasy quarterback right now. The imply 241 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: total for Vegas is respectable. He's still running at a 242 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: pretty high rate. He stole the goal line back essentially, 243 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: and with Stefan Diggs there, you know, they're throwing the 244 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: ball and they're playing much faster. So I think he's 245 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: got you know, in relative to previous seasons. I think 246 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: he's just getting more opportunities to throw the ball, which 247 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: is resulting in mores. Uh So I'm tentative, but I'm 248 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: saying like this is I think this this there's something 249 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: real with with Josh Allen. That's that's all I'm gonna say. 250 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: I don't want to be too bullish on it and 251 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: then have it come back to bite me. Will I 252 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: think you are low on Josh Allen if I'm reading 253 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: the outline correctly, take the other side of this, because like, 254 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: it's not hard to identify all the things that could 255 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: go wrong in this game, and that could go wrong 256 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: with Josh Allen. Lay it out for me. 257 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: What's what's better than having the guy with no models 258 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: show up and be like, you know, he's not gonna 259 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: have a good week, Josh Allen, You're like, well that, 260 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I. 261 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: Don't want hey once that based on how my models 262 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: have done, no models are probably better, so talk to me. 263 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: Well, I would say, all right, So here's I went 264 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: back and so Pete Prisko, I want to text her 265 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: with Pete Prisco. Unfortunately, and he is a huge Josh 266 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: Allen fan. So whenever Josh Allen's throwing bombs, he's texting 267 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: this thread and he's blowing us up about it. So 268 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: I went back last night during the Raiders game and 269 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: rewatched the Bills and the game. A couple of things 270 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: about Josh Allen. I am very high on him for 271 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: the for the long term future. I think that he 272 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: has made significant improvements in how he plays. Notably, he's 273 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: really shortened up his delivery and he's throwing from a 274 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: bunch of different arm slots like he's he completely changes 275 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: mechanics in the offseason. It's it's it's startling if you 276 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: really go back and watch it. So he's shortened his delivery, 277 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: which has allowed him to increase his accuracy, and I 278 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: think that because of that shortened delivery in the different 279 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: arm slots he's hit it, he's being more accurate in 280 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: short yardage and intermediate passes, and then he's improved his 281 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: downfield accuracy as well. I mean, it's something he just 282 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: worked on. It also helps to have Stefan Diggs, who's 283 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: a great deep ball pass catcher and a great route runner. 284 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: So I think all those things have really helped him improve, 285 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: and I do. I believe he's a top three MVP 286 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: candidate along with Russ and Kyler right now. I believe 287 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: the Bills are absolutely a challenger for the Patriots, even 288 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: with the healthy camp, and I think that Josh Allen 289 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: is somebody you want to hold on to an investment 290 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: over the long haul. But I'm gonna sell this week 291 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: because I don't think it's a great matchup. The Rams 292 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: have a great defense. 293 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 7: They changed over and they brought in a first year 294 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 7: play caller to replace Wade Phillips, and they're cooking on defense. 295 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 7: The Rams are just good, and I think you're gonna 296 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: see the way that they'll approach Josh Allen. 297 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: They won't let him run as much. They will they 298 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: will put Jayleen Ramsey on Stefan Diggs and force force 299 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: him to beat you. With Cole Beasley and John Brown, 300 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: they'll probably use a safety to avoid, you know, anything 301 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: over the top, and they'll ask the Bills to try 302 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: to sort of run against him with Aaron Donald penetrating 303 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: the interior. And the one thing about Alan too, if 304 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: you watch that Dolphins game again, there are some a 305 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: good defense makes him pay. That's the difference in what 306 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: you saw, Like he threw a pass to a linebacker 307 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: that hit the dude in the face, in the hands, 308 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: inside his own inside, like underneath the shadow of his 309 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: own goal line, and the guy drops it like that's 310 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: an interceptible pick six that could have changed it. And 311 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: then I also think that you get a little bit 312 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: of garbage time with the Bills being aggressive late when 313 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: Josh Allen it took a couple of deep shots that 314 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know is going to be there every single week. 315 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm sort of embarrassed on Josh Allen 316 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: this week. But like him of the long haul. 317 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: All right, Raybon, I think you are also a little 318 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: pessimistic on Allen this week. Just go ahead and pile 319 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: it on so we can get it over with. 320 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I kind of echo Will sentiments about that 321 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 6: Rams defense. You know, the Rams are a team I 322 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 6: thought was undervalued coming into the year, and you know, 323 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 6: they've been excellent under Brandon Staley. If you look at 324 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 6: their numbers against Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz, two of 325 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 6: the better quarterbacks in this league, six point two yards 326 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 6: per attempt, one touchdown, two interceptions. 327 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: It only allowed three carries to Dak, which you know 328 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: he got thirty yards. 329 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: One of them was on a scramble in you know, 330 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 6: they were in comeback mode. But you know, two carries 331 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 6: allowed to Wentz. They're not really winning quarterbacks out and 332 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 6: they're just blanketing receivers with those corners and those safeties. 333 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: So I do think it's tough. He prices the quarterback three. 334 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 6: He's my quarterback seven. So I just think that we, 335 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 6: you know, the value isn't quite there for him, especially 336 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: with guys like Russ Dak and in the high shootout, 337 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: in the high total game, you know, Mahomes and Lamar. 338 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 6: In the high total game, you just have uh In 339 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 6: Kyler and you know Kyle in the high total game. 340 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 6: You just have a lot of guys that I think, 341 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 6: you know, there's ten points separating or nine to eight 342 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 6: to ten points separating the total in rams bills from 343 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 6: the total. 344 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: In some of those other games. 345 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 6: So I just think it's a tough spot for him, 346 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: and Watson is Deshaun Watson as well, going against that 347 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh defense. Anyone who's been following me with the betting 348 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 6: knows that I don't really mess with this Pittsburgh defense. 349 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: Uh it is. 350 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: It was top three and running versus the running pass 351 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 6: and DV away last season. And you know, Houston's well 352 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 6: on its way to its zero and three start that's 353 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 6: probably gonna have to dig itself out of. 354 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: Uh And and I don't want any parts of Deshaun 355 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: this week. 356 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah great, but I'm with you there on Deshaun Watson. 357 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,359 Speaker 3: Where do you have him ranked right now among quarterbacks? 358 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 6: He looks like, let's see, he had I have him 359 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: at QB eleven. 360 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: I have him QB eleven. 361 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: Right now, Okay, I have him at QB fifteen, which 362 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: just feels incredibly shocking to me. I need to just 363 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: burn my models and start from scratch, because I just 364 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: I can't imagine something that would shoot out Deshaun Watson 365 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: at QB fifteen. But Will Fuller is, you know, going 366 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: through some injuries apparently, and no DeAndre Hopkins. Things are 367 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: coming back to earth for Deshaun Watson and he has 368 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: that horrendous matchup. So I'm with you. Watson is the 369 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: guy that I'm relatively low on. 370 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 6: Usually we disagreed on the show, but I'm actually right 371 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 6: with you, not only on Watson, but you mentioned Gardner 372 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 6: Minshew is a guy you like. 373 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: He's currently my QB nine right now, So right there 374 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: with you. 375 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly where I have Minshew at QB nine. Sean, 376 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 3: who's someone that you're relatively low on. 377 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'm also low on Deshaun Watson. I have him 378 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 4: QB twelve. 379 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: He's absolutely off the radar in DFS at sixty five. 380 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: Hunter there, and you know Fuller, even if he does play, 381 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 5: is gonna be less than one hundred percent. So going 382 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: into Pittsburgh with Brandon Cooks and Jordan Akins is not 383 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: inspiring confidence in me. You know, Deshaun Watson will have 384 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: to flash his rushing upside to even matchup Proof at 385 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 5: this point. I mean we already mentioned there's a ton 386 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: of talent up top, So yeah, he's off the map 387 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 5: in season long unfortunately too, I would start Gardner Minshew 388 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 5: over him as well, and the other guy I'm low 389 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: on is I mean, it's not too shocking, but Tom 390 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: Brady at Denver at sixty one hundred, he's my QB 391 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: twenty three, so he's completely off the radar in season 392 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 5: long for me, I think this is a matchup. They'll 393 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 5: be pretty run heavy and conservative, even though Mike Evans 394 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: and Chris Godwin should be back. You know, they're at 395 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: Denver against Jeff Driscoll led offense, so that they should 396 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: dominate this game. I don't think they'll need to lean 397 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: on the past game as much. We talked about it 398 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: at length heading into the season. This Buccaneers offense won't 399 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 5: be the same with Brady as opposed to Jamis Winston. 400 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: So I think this is a week where I'll be 401 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 5: fully fading this Buccaneers offense. You know, maybe an out 402 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 5: Lanard four Nette, but we can get to that later. 403 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: All right, Sean, give us a player prop for the 404 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: quarterback position, and by the way, I should say everyone, 405 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: you can check out our Fantasy Labs player prop tool, 406 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: where the props with a bet quality of ten have 407 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: a fifty nine percent win rate over the past two years, 408 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: which is obviously much better than I did in Week two. 409 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: Oh my, it was literally the worst player prop betting 410 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: week of my entire existence and any past existences that 411 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: I might or might not have had. Anyway, when player 412 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: props are posted, you can bet on them at bet 413 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: MGM Sean give us the player prop well. 414 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: I think I picked a good one here because we're 415 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 5: going to Josh Allen passing yards. It just makes me 416 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: uncomfortable right now to even project this. So you know, 417 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 5: having you got you three all seen to disagree with 418 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: each other, so this should be fun. But right now 419 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: I have it at two fifty eight and a half 420 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: and I don't feel good about it. 421 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: I'll take the under, I'll under under, I'll take the over. 422 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: I'll be the fish here. 423 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 6: Miami and the Jets are totally different defenses than one 424 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 6: with Jaywin Ramsey. 425 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 8: Hope you're enjoying this great action network podcast. 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So go to your podcast app and search 434 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 8: locked on your favorite team subscribe to your locked on podcast. 435 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the running backs and the 436 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: guys at the top of our rankings. I mean, no 437 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, No Saquon Barkley. The guys at the top 438 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: of our rankings Alvin Kamara, Ezekiel Elliott, Derrick Henry, all 439 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 3: totally three fine players. But you know, normally there are 440 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: other guys at the top of our rankings, and now 441 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: we're forced to move on in this running back apocalypse. Well, 442 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: who are the guys that you have at the top 443 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 3: of your rankings? Yeah, I mean it's Henry. 444 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: Like I mentioned the Vikings, I think this is a 445 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: bounce back spot for I think people will be scared 446 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: of Derrick Henry after last week and that you're like, 447 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 2: how the Titans scored thirty three points and Derrick Henry, 448 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's just should be obvious when 449 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 2: he's sixty percent owned and they've still managed to score 450 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: thirty three points, so he rested for eighty four yard 451 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: to be This is how DFS works. I guess, M Kamara, 452 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm fine with there. I think the guy that that 453 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: you could even sneak into the top that that you know, 454 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't do the weekly rankings, you know. 455 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: I think that to Jamie and uh and those guys. 456 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: So I may I may be insane with this, but 457 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: like Chris Carson is really intriguing to me, and what 458 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: in a game that should be a shootout because of 459 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: just how well he's played in the passing game and 460 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: we we should expect I think a lot of points 461 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: scored in that. So, like, if you think Zeke can 462 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: be a top tier running back, you know, why can't 463 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: Chris Carson? 464 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: All right, Sean, how did your top three shakeout? 465 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 466 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: So I have Zeke, Henry and Kamara, and I think 467 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 5: one of the things that gives me pauseive Tannehill is 468 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 5: just the fact that Derek Henry has zero touchdowns this year. 469 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 5: So you know, tanner Hill has been touchdown dependent twenty 470 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 5: four attempts I think last game. So I mean eventually 471 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: Derek Kennry's going to get his. So that's why I 472 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 5: still have Henry pretty high. You know, it remains to 473 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: me seeing if Darrington Evans returns this week. Henry hasn't 474 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 5: really shown as much as I thought he would in 475 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: the pass catching department, but I think he still has 476 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: some upside there. So I still have Henry number two. 477 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 5: But Kamara is making a solid case right now without 478 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 5: Michael Thomas. 479 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: I think they're going to. 480 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: Lean on him a ton, So I think by the 481 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 5: end of the week, I could have Kamara number two. 482 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 5: But either way, it's a three way battle, and Zeke 483 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 5: is clearly number one in this potential shootout against the Seahawks. 484 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: All right, Raymond, what about you? Yeah? 485 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: I have Zeke number one. I love the usage. I 486 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 4: like that he's getting work in the passing game. 487 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 6: I believe Poward and we played about under ten snaps 488 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 6: last week. You know, Zeke was really that the workhorse, 489 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 6: and Pollard hasn't been working in as much as maybe 490 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 6: we thought. 491 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: And then number two still Derrick Henry. 492 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 6: This Vikings defense, you know, it doesn't seem to be 493 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 6: getting fixed quick enough. And Derreck Henry is a guy 494 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 6: that's still getting pretty much almost every backfield touch. He's 495 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 6: getting a ton of snaps and then Alvin Kamara. You know, 496 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 6: he's doing his thing catching footballs. It's a high scoring game. 497 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 6: I believe the total is around fifty three in Green 498 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 6: Bay and New Orleans with a close spread of three points. 499 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 6: So that's a very good spot for him. And Drew 500 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 6: Brees like he looks af he looks he doesn't look good. 501 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 6: He looks he looks old, and it looks like the 502 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 6: only guy he can really consistently connect with is Alvin Kamara. 503 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: So expecting a ton more of ak this week. 504 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: All right, One guy I have in my top three 505 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, and I'm kind of surprised that I have 506 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: in there given that we have the Raiders on the 507 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: road as underdogs. Obviously get your odds at bet MGM 508 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: in right now they are five and a half point underdogs. 509 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: But I think we're going to see the Raiders continue 510 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: to have a run heavy approach. I think they're going 511 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: to be able to keep the game close. And I think, 512 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: you know, we're seeing Jacobs actually get more usage in 513 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 3: the receiving game than we had anticipated. And so I 514 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: have Jacobs in my top three. Will I'd kind of 515 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: like to get your thoughts on Josh Jacobs and what 516 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: you see form by. 517 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: The way, the other guy that I think could sneak 518 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: in the top three and what on my unvaried list, 519 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: but I want to mention Jonathan Taylor, like they're going 520 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: to feed him against the Jets, and the Jets are 521 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 2: terrible as far as Jacobs goes. You're right. We're doing 522 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: a twitch stream on Sunday and Nando Dfino of The 523 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Athletic was all with me and Adam Major and he 524 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: was saying, if you redrafted, he would go with Josh 525 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: Jacobs as the top three in terms of guys that 526 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: you would take right now, you know, with McCaffrey banged 527 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: up in Saquon out for the year, like if you 528 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: redrafted for the rest of the season, And I thought 529 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: he's a little crazy because I didn't, you know. I 530 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: was like, let's I want to see what happens in 531 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: you know, if there's a negative game script against a 532 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: team like the Saints, is Josh Jacobs still out there, 533 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: He's still catching the passes? Do they go with Jalen Richard? 534 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: And John Gruden is just gonna go with Josh Jacobs. 535 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: He's gonna make Josh Jacobs the receiving back a thing. 536 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: I there was a rumor out there before the office 537 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: before the season that Gruden was irate, just incensed that 538 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray won Rookie of the Year instead of Josh Jacobs, 539 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: and that he was going to show everybody what Josh 540 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: Jacobs could do by unleashing him and like just turning 541 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: him to a war horse and using him in the 542 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: passing game. And Jacobs worked on his passing skills and 543 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: they've targeted Aton in the in the receiving game. We 544 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: know Derek Carr loves to check down, so if you know, 545 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: if you're in a situation as a running back, you're 546 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: gonna see targets from Derek Carr in the in the 547 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: passing game. And Jacobs is a workhorse with a very 548 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: good offensive line that even looked good short handed. You know, 549 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: they were still moving the moving the creating holes after 550 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: Trent Brown was gone and after losing Richie and Cognitio 551 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: in the middle of the game. So I think Josh 552 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: Jacobs is Yeah, he's a slam dunk week in and 553 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: week out. And New England's rush defense maybe a little 554 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: vulnerable against this Oakland rushing attack. 555 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: All right, will someone you are relatively high on I have. 556 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: On this list. The two guys I included sort of 557 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: more sleeper options, but Kenyan Drake and then Darryl Henderson. 558 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: Drake specifically, I think it's played pretty well so far 559 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: this year, but he hadn't gotten the scores quite yet. 560 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: I think they've been wanting to feed DeAndre Hopkins for 561 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: the narrative, to make sure that everybody knows DeAndre Hopkins 562 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: is awesome. And Drake has gone up against the forty 563 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: nine ers who were completely healthy at the time, and 564 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: the Washington football team. Those are two of the best 565 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: defensive lines in football when they're healthy, great at stopping 566 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: the run. And you know who's not good at stopping anybody, 567 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. So I like Kenyan Drake to get 568 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: a healthy dose here in this game. I think they 569 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: could be up by a bunch of points and they're 570 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: just pounding the ball. And then Henderson, I've always loved 571 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: his talent. I don't love the matchup this week quite 572 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: as much because the Bills are a good defense. But 573 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: Sean mcvay's got something figured out in terms of using 574 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: motion before the snap, and he's got the running game 575 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: cooking again and Henderson looks like he could be the 576 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: guy with everybody else banged up. 577 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: Sean, who's someone you're high on? 578 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 5: I am extremely high on Miles Sanders this week against 579 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: the Bengals. He's my running back five right now. He's 580 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: only sixty four hundred on DK, which is way too 581 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 5: cheap considering just his underlying usage. Last week was a 582 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 5: true workhorse. So you know, as CMC and Barkley out, 583 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: it opens up the top five. So I think that's 584 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: why it's surprising to me that he's in my top five, 585 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 5: but not when you consider the blood bath that was 586 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 5: Week two. You know, he saw twenty carries. One of 587 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: them was a goal line touchdown, which is huge. He 588 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 5: ran around on seventy percent of Wentz's dropbacks and this 589 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: is a great matchup. We saw Nick Chubb and Cream 590 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: Hunt both put up RB one scores against the Bengals. 591 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 5: So I think if Miles Sanders continues this kind of usage, 592 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: you know, he's in this mash spot here, and then 593 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 5: the other guy is Mike Davis at fifty one. He's 594 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 5: my RB twenty three right now. I think of all 595 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 5: the running backs, all the backup running backs that are 596 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 5: becoming starters this week. He's probably the safest bet for 597 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 5: RB two value. And you know when CMC went down, 598 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: he basically inherited his full role. He saw eight targets 599 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 5: in just thirty four percent of the routes run. Obviously, 600 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 5: the target rate will go down, but his his ruts 601 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: run rate probably will be around seventy percent this week. 602 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: He should handle most of the carries, all the goal 603 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 5: line work. I think their backup right now is Trenton Cannon, 604 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 5: who will probably only be a change of payback. So well, 605 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 5: Mike Davis, you know, is nowhere near CMC's you know caliber. 606 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 5: I think he will inherit much of that role, so 607 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 5: he should see a ton of receptions in what should 608 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: be a trailing game script. So I do like him 609 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 5: in a full PPR format like draft Kings at fifty 610 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: one hundred this week, Raymond, who. 611 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: Do you like? 612 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 6: James Robinson for the for the Jags has handled thirty 613 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 6: six of the forty four backfield touch uh. You know, 614 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 6: John Gruden, Jay Druden, excuse me, has been a you know, 615 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 6: the coordinator in Jacksonville has been a guy that's rode 616 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 6: with these undrafted guys in the past, and it looks 617 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 6: like he's doing that again. You know, they're home favored 618 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 6: against Miami, so it should be a pretty positive game 619 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 6: script in that one. 620 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: So I think you continue to ride him. 621 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 6: Uh and yeah, the guys that the uh you know 622 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 6: Sean and and Will just mentioned. I think Kenyan Drake 623 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 6: is way to treat on DraftKings that just six k 624 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 6: you know, going against the Lions that just went let 625 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 6: Aaron Jones. 626 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: Go absolutely off. 627 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 6: I mean it was it was just silly with with 628 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 6: how bad they were on run defense. And uh in 629 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 6: Miles Sanders, I agree too. You know, look at Cincinnati 630 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 6: and what they allowed to Nick Chubb after we were 631 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 6: kind of worried about Chubb you know in Week one, 632 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 6: and he got right really quickly against that Cincinnati defense. 633 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 6: Miles Sanders getting probably more of the workload than we 634 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: thought he would in the passing game for Philadelphia with 635 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 6: Boston Scott taking a little bit more of a back 636 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 6: seat and then Chris Carson. Yeah, he's in my top 637 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 6: seven at a running back this week. When you have 638 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson at quarterback and playing like this, hitting and 639 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 6: not just hitting like you know, underneath passes to tight 640 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 6: ends like Russell Wilson's I think he threw a touchdown 641 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 6: to like four different wide receivers in last week's game, 642 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 6: and that's against the Patriots. 643 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: It's hard to do. 644 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 6: Carson has caught you know, touchdowns in both games, so 645 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 6: he's getting left open simply because how well Russell Wilson 646 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 6: is playing, and that also is going to help them 647 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 6: in the running game. In week one he had just 648 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 6: six carries. Maybe people were a little bit worried it. 649 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 4: Was kind of a blowout. 650 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 6: But in week two, seventeen carries, seventy two yards, three 651 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 6: more catches, so twenty touches. That's right where he's been 652 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 6: his entire career as the starter. Four Pete Carroll r 653 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 6: right around twenty touches per game. So love all of 654 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 6: those guys and think you keep riding James Robinson as well. 655 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: All right, guy, I'm pretty high on is Kareem Hunt? 656 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: What I like about him? Well, one, obviously, I think 657 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 3: it's a good thing that the Browns are favored, just 658 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, more points that they can score. But the 659 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: big thing is that I think, I think, unlike Nick Chubb, 660 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: is that he's game script independent. I think pretty much 661 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: regardless of what happens in this game, he's going to 662 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: have you know, anywhere from like thirty to forty percent 663 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: of the backfield carries, and I still think he's going 664 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: to be targeted as a regular function of that offense. 665 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: You know, if things don't go according to plan, then 666 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: I think he could have even more fantasy upside if 667 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: he ends up seeing a lot of targets. So he's 668 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: someone I'm much higher on having in the high end 669 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: RB two range, and that's just like not where I 670 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: was expecting to have him. But because of the relatively 671 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: high implied total, because of the consistent rushing workload, and 672 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: then because of what he's doing as a receiver, he's 673 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: someone I'm relatively high on and will as it turns out, 674 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: I think you are relatively low on Nick Chubb. 675 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: Just for this week. I'm a huge Nick Chubb stand 676 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: So I love Nick Chobb. I think he's the top 677 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: three or four running back in the league. That's how 678 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: I feel about him. But I think when you watch him play, 679 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: you can see it. But when you look at what's 680 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: going on with a Kevin Stefanski offense, one of the 681 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: things I think you can notice is he likes to 682 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: limit his number one running back to somewhere between eighteen 683 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: and twenty five carries. He did every game last year. 684 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: Davin Cook had won game last year with more than 685 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: twenty five carries. And you know, we saw it with 686 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: Chubb against the Bengals on Thursday night where he hit 687 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: twenty and then they brought in Kareem Hunt. It's like 688 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: sort of like the like a Marianna rivera role for 689 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: lack of a butter like, he came in and he 690 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: closed it out right. And I just think they I 691 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: think he thinks or so I think there's gotta be 692 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: some sort of analytics about how a running back performs 693 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: it for certain number of carries. And he's utilizing those 694 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: guys in that in that sense, and as good as 695 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: Chubb is and he can break off a big run, 696 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: I just worry that against the Washington football team, with 697 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: all their talent on the front four, that they can 698 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: limit him enough and that they might let Baker throw 699 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more. 700 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: In this game. Totally agree with you there, Sean, who 701 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: is someone you are relatively low on. 702 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: Well as a person that has a ton of Boston 703 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 5: Scott and Kareem Hunt shares. It pains me to not 704 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 5: only be high on Miles Sanders, but I'm also low 705 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: on Cream Hunt this week. 706 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: Especially why why are you doing this to Freedman? He 707 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: just went like four to seventeen on props. 708 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: Let him. I can't help it, so he can't help it. 709 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: So I mean, believe me, I show your pain of 710 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: Cream Hunt almost every league. So here's why for DFS, 711 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 5: especially at sixty one hundred, I can't spend up for 712 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 5: him this week. You know, he's just off the RB 713 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 5: two radar and RB twenty six. 714 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: But you know, here's why. You know, last week he 715 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: was able. 716 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 5: To crush value based on those two touchdowns and it 717 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 5: was great to see. But you know, this is the 718 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: second straight game where Chubb ran around on more dropbacks 719 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 5: than Hunt, you know, fifty to thirty three. So this 720 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 5: is the second straight week where Chub has outpaced him 721 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 5: in the passing game, which is a very big concern 722 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: for Hunt. So, you know, as six and a half 723 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 5: seven point favorites here, I think this does set up 724 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 5: for a Chub game unfortunately. So you know, Hunt's gonna 725 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 5: have to keep up that insane efficiency if he's going 726 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 5: to be seeing you know, ten to fifteen Touchhowns hopefully 727 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 5: this week. So that's that's why I'm down hunting down 728 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: on him. I think next week at Dallas could be 729 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 5: a different story. But I'm gonna want to see his 730 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 5: his ruts run, you know, to pass up Chubb otherwise, 731 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 5: you know that that was the whole point of drifting 732 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 5: Kareem hunt was to be that the pass catching back 733 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 5: and then potentially if Nick Chubb goes down, he's you know, 734 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 5: obviously a top five running back, but just I haven't 735 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 5: seen the underlying usage to trust him this week in 736 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 5: what should be a positive game script. So that's that's 737 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 5: why I'm low on him. But I think long term, 738 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 5: I think he is still you know, RB two and 739 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 5: the other guy I'm low on. Sorry again, Freeman, but 740 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 5: it's Josh Jacobs. And this is DFS only, so in 741 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: season long formats, you are absolutely playing Josh Jacobs. He's 742 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 5: a top ten running back. Okay, now that I got 743 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 5: the other way. For DFS, I'm a little bit, you know, 744 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 5: hesitant to spend over seven K on him until I 745 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 5: think we'll mention it until we see a Nega game 746 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 5: script how they use him in the passing game because 747 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 5: he only ran around thirty five percent of cars dropbacks. 748 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 5: They use Jalen Richard, DeAndre Booker, and alec Ingold. They 749 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: combined for more routes than Josh Jacobs yesterday. So I 750 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 5: want to be very careful about that until we see 751 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 5: him perform in a negative game scrip, which it should 752 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 5: be this week at New England. 753 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be spending that much on. 754 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 5: Him because his underlying usage is more of a two 755 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 5: to three reception kind of guy. So if he's not 756 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 5: going to get the twenty five plus carries, you know, 757 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 5: where's that production gonna come from. So I'm just a 758 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 5: little bit hesitant on him. In DFS only Season one, 759 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: you're absolutely playing him one. 760 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm totally dead. I'm just slaid two, Sean. If only 761 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: we had some sort of document in which you could 762 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: put in advance, oh, players that you're going to talk about, 763 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: we could and we could avoid this embarrassment that I 764 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: am self free. I am mortified, Sean. 765 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 4: Would you have changed your picks if I had these 766 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: guys in here? Hopefully not? 767 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: No, No, I would good Raymond, who are you relatively 768 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: low on? 769 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I just want to say for even like 770 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 6: I don't I don't think anything can compare to the 771 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: prop episode when I was like, Cooper Cup like to 772 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 6: eat the league in touchdowns, and then Mike Klay was 773 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 6: like my number one prop. 774 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup under touchdown. It's like, so, so you're you're 775 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 4: You're good, You're good. 776 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 6: I do agree with Sean on Hunt, though I am 777 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 6: a little bit worried to just because the routes run 778 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 6: haven't really been there over chubbed the way they were 779 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 6: last year with Freddie Kitchens. They were using Hunt a 780 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 6: little more as like a slot receiver. That's not really happening. 781 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 6: Uh this season. Another player is David Johnson. Listen, this 782 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh defense again, just don't mess with it. And David Johnson, 783 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 6: even though he's getting a large percentage of the backfield usage, 784 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 6: it's only translated into games of thirteen and fourteen. Uh, 785 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 6: you know, around fourteen touches each of these past two weeks. 786 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 6: So excuse me, fourteen and yeah, fourteen and thirteen touches 787 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 6: these past two weeks. 788 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: He hasn't topped eleven carries yet. 789 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: And Houston seems to be getting a little more pass heavy, 790 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 6: especially in these games where they're trailing and they've only 791 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 6: had twenty seven backfield carries through two weeks, and it's 792 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 6: another tough match up against Pittsburgh, So Johnson was somewhat 793 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 6: tempting down there at fifty four hundred. He'll probably register 794 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 6: as a decent value, but I just think that it's 795 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 6: worrisome that he's not getting a lot of touches even 796 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 6: though he's getting pretty much all of the backfield usage. 797 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 6: And Duke Johnson was out last week. So those are 798 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 6: the two guys that I'm a little bit worried about. 799 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: Sean. 800 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 6: I will say about Jacobs, I don't know if you saw, 801 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 6: but he he got like banged up and he was 802 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 6: like in and out of the game at times. I'm 803 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 6: pretty sure he would have gotten like a couple more 804 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 6: routes and even carries if he was like fully healthy, 805 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 6: because at one point jaywhen Rashard like fumbled a toss 806 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 6: and like it was just ugly. So that's something to 807 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 6: monitor going going forward as well. 808 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, no way that gets that touchdown if Jacobs isn't hurt, 809 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: because Gruden was just i mean beside himself after that 810 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: retorted by the way you mentioned David Johnson, is it 811 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: possible that DeAndre Hopkins trade won't work out for the 812 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: Texans because it feels like it might be leaning that way. 813 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: Perhaps maybe just a little help. 814 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, what do he did some dumbst trade the 815 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: history of football? 816 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: All Right? One guy I'm relatively low on is Joe Mixon. 817 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 3: Not a high imply total for the Bengals, and he's 818 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: not getting nearly the receiving workload that you would have 819 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: hoped for. That said, I'm sure that Sean loves him, 820 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: given that I dislike him, Sean give us the prop. 821 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 5: I do not love Joe Mixon at all. So my 822 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: prop is Leonard Fournette rushing yard this week. I'm not 823 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 5: gonna set it up with anything. I just have the 824 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 5: over under at fifty nine and a half under. It's 825 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 5: still wondered for Anette. 826 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 6: He's still like a three point four yard per carry 827 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 6: guy that's not gonna get a forty six yard running 828 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 6: garbage time every single week. 829 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: That was a swing run. I mean cast the Buccaneers, 830 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: It cast the over, it's it made fantasy leagues go 831 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: every which way. I will be very curious to see 832 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: if Ronald Jones is given one more reprieve from the 833 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: Bruce Arians doghouse or the Tom Brady doghouse. Because that 834 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: fumbled snap for the handoff, the fumbled handoff, he didn't 835 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: come I don't think he came back yet. Like I 836 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: think he was out after that fumbled handoff. It was 837 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: all lean for Nett. I just sort of wonder. I 838 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: think I think they like Ronald Jones, and so I 839 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: just sort of wonder if we might see a little 840 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: Ronald Jones. I don't know. I'll take the under a 841 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: Lenon Fornett. I don't trust uncle. 842 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 3: Matt okay, I mean, as an original Ronald Jones fan, 843 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: I would say I don't think they like Ronald Jones 844 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: because if they did, I don't think they would have 845 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 3: drafted Keishon Vaughan or signed Lashawn McCoy and then Leonard Fournette. 846 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: That said Sean, I will take the under, but just barely. 847 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: I have this at I think fifty nine. 848 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, how many rushing yards do you have 849 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 5: Ronald Jones for then? Because that's really the prop, is 850 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 5: the split between the two. 851 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: I have him at thirty six okay, yeah, we're very 852 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: close to then. 853 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 6: And also remember that defense for the Broncos is pretty 854 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 6: was pretty good against the running week wh they held 855 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 6: Henry to one to sixteen and just thirty one carries. 856 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 6: And then in Week two, Connor had a fifty nine 857 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 6: yard run at the end of the game, but the 858 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 6: other fifteen carries went for just forty seven yards and 859 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 6: Benny Snell three for five, so they pretty much gave 860 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 6: up one big play in the run game and that's it. 861 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 6: So that's concerning for a guy like Fournette because like, 862 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 6: you don't expect Denver to give up another fifty nine 863 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 6: yard run and Fournette to get another forty six yard run. 864 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, No, I agree, the matchups not great, but 865 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 5: I just think this game script will be pretty run heavy. 866 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 5: That's so I'm trying to get it right. I would 867 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 5: say the top two teams I hate projecting the most 868 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 5: when it comes to backfields. Number one is the Lions 869 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 5: and number two is the Bucks. So I'm just hoping 870 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 5: we get some clarity here. So it's just the lines 871 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 5: that I get a headache projecting. But I think you're right. 872 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 5: I go either way. But I think that that fumble, 873 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 5: like we'll mentioned, could be the door that Fournette's going 874 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 5: to just plow right through and become the main running 875 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 5: back going forward. 876 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: That box Broncos under might be a smash spot. 877 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I've already taken Broncos team total under some 878 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 6: I'm right with you will and we're. 879 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 5: Already conceding that Jeff Driscoll will be the nuts in 880 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 5: DFS this week. Right, Well yeah, okay, wait, stupid sport. 881 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 3: Up next, we have wide receivers. But first, let's take 882 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: a quick break to talk with Peter Jennings a k a. C. S. 883 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: Ram eighty eight, a two time DFS World champion and 884 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: co founder of Fantasy Labs. Pete, how's it going great? 885 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 9: Week two was a big success in tournaments with Aaron Jones. 886 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 9: Amari got the hundred yard bonus. Unfortunately didn't get a touchdown, 887 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 9: but very excited for three, where I think there's a 888 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 9: ton of value in a lot of directions to go. 889 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 3: All right, well, how are you approaching cash games? 890 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 9: So cash games, we're gonna have a lot of cheap 891 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 9: running backs. I think there's a clear cut option on 892 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 9: DraftKings at quarterback, which we'll talk about. In general, I 893 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 9: think there's going to be some pretty obvious chalk that 894 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 9: I played last week in cash lost last week in cash, 895 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 9: but there's going to be some strong pivots and tournaments 896 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 9: which hopefully one or the other will work out. 897 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 3: All right, Well, you mentioned tournaments right there. What are 898 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 3: you doing for GPPs? 899 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 9: GPP is going to be game stacking and getting off 900 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 9: some of these cheap running backs, paying up and running back, 901 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 9: getting off some of these chocky receivers, and probably going 902 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 9: away from the quarterback I think is going to be 903 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 9: extremely chocky, but for good reason. 904 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 3: All right, well, why don't you mention that quarterback? Who 905 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 3: is he? 906 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, Kyler Murray I think stands out in a huge, 907 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 9: huge way. I think Kyler Murray is going to be 908 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 9: thirty percent plus owned at sixty eight hundred going against Detroit. 909 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 9: We've seen just an unbelievable start to the See he's 910 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 9: a number one pick. Dare I say a generational athlete 911 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 9: could have played professional baseball? You know, Kyler's legs have 912 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 9: just given him a really really high floor and ceiling, 913 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 9: and that offense is clicking. DeAndre Hopkins is a huge 914 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 9: addition to that offense. So Kyler to me is the 915 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 9: number one rated player by a good margin in my 916 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 9: model on Fantasy Labs, and I think will be a 917 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 9: really chocky but a must play for me at quarterback. 918 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's standing out in all of the models at 919 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: Fantasy Labs for both DraftKings and FanDuel. Who are some 920 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 3: of the running backs you want to invest in. 921 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 9: So running back, we're gonna have to kind of wait 922 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 9: and see, you know, we're recording here on Tuesday. I 923 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 9: think there's a lot of options that you can look to. 924 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 9: We have all the injuries or went out for people 925 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 9: who drafted at the top, with McCaffrey going down so 926 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 9: many injuries, so that it opens the door for a 927 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 9: lot of backups. You know, one guy who's standing out 928 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 9: to me that's not a backup but resumed playing last 929 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 9: week is Miles Sanders sixty four hundred ton of usage 930 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 9: last week. I really like the spot for him going 931 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 9: against Cincinnati. Another guy who's kind of splitting time that 932 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 9: stands out in the models right now is Josh Kelly, 933 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 9: who has a really, really good matchup and looked really 934 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 9: good last week, and I think he's going to end 935 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 9: up being kind of the goal line guy. Obviously Eckler 936 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 9: change of paceback who did look good as well, but 937 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 9: I think Kelly's going to get a lot of opportunity. 938 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 9: And then Kenyan Drake, I think is another one that 939 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 9: stands out kind of in that mid tier with his 940 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 9: price tag and only six K. I mean, I'm bullish 941 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 9: on anyone on everyone for Arizona. 942 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 3: All right, what are your thoughts on wide receivers? 943 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 9: So wide receiver, there's a lot of directions you can go. 944 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 9: I think given the injury to the Colts to Paris camb, 945 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 9: I think Michael Pittman is going to be pretty popular. 946 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 2: You know. 947 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 9: DeAndre Hopkins is a stack on the opposite end of 948 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 9: the spectrum with Kyler Murray makes a ton of sense 949 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 9: given the volume. Still, like all the Dallas receivers Ceedee 950 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 9: lamb Amari Cooper, and I do think Michael Gallup is 951 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 9: gonna have some really big games here. So like those guys, 952 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 9: and then you know, you scroll a little farther down 953 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 9: in the models, there's some other guys that think have 954 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 9: upside for tournaments. Specifically, I like the idea of Deontay Johnson. 955 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 9: Maybe pair it with Pittsburgh's defense for the double dip. 956 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 9: DJ Moore, I think we'll explode at some point. It's 957 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 9: a tough matchup, but I think DJ Moore still has 958 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 9: a lot of the upside, and yeah, it's a really 959 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 9: really good tournament week. I'm hoping to y Hilton doesn't 960 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 9: burn me like you did last week with that big drop. 961 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 9: I like him too at only fifty six hundred. 962 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: Draftings and what are you thinking at tight end? 963 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 9: So tight end, I think the clear cut value play 964 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 9: just from a points per dollar perspective is zach Ertz 965 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 9: price is coming down fifty one hundred, still seeing a 966 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 9: lot of volume going against the Bengals at home. 967 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: Just too cheap. 968 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 9: You know, he's right next to Goddard, who I think 969 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 9: is a really talented player, probably probably the most talented 970 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 9: tight end on the team. They're both great, But zach Ertz, 971 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 9: given kind of his role and what we've seen historically, 972 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 9: at fifty one hundred is really cheap. Also, like Logan 973 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 9: Thomas thirty seven hundred, I think he makes a lot 974 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 9: of sense this week against Cleveland at only thirty seven hundred. 975 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 9: And Dan Arnold if you're going to stack up Kyler 976 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 9: Murray and you want to go away, or maybe a 977 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 9: double stack with DeAndre Hopkins, and Arnold's really cheap at 978 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 9: twenty eight hundred. 979 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 4: So like those guys. 980 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 9: Darren Waller just came out a really good game of 981 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 9: Monday Night football, hit a tougher match up against the Patriots, 982 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 9: but he's another guy to throw in the mix. 983 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 3: All right, And are there any under the radar game 984 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 3: stacks that you found? 985 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, there definitely are a lot of good games. I mean, 986 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 9: it's easy to say this isn't the underrated part. But 987 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 9: if you're going to stack this Arizona Detroit game, I 988 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 9: think you want to do it with different pieces. I 989 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 9: mentioned how I think DeAndre Hopkins is going to be 990 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 9: really heavily owned. If you're gonna do that, maybe you 991 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 9: go with Kyler and like Christian Kirk, or maybe you 992 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 9: go with Arnold and you run it back a little differently. 993 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 9: I think that Kyler's gonna be chocky, so I'm less 994 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 9: inclined to do that, But I do think there's still 995 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 9: ways you can be contrarion with one of the highest 996 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 9: totals on the board. The other eye total, obviously is 997 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 9: Dallas Seattle, which I want pieces of that could be 998 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 9: a little choky but sneaky games. How about this Minnesota 999 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 9: Tennessee game. I think that game has potential to shoot 1000 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 9: out more than people think Adam Felan had a great 1001 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 9: Week one, didn't have the same week and week two. 1002 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 9: I think he's interesting. And Derrick Henry and these Tennessee 1003 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 9: Titan guys are are interesting. Derek Henry coming up kind 1004 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 9: of a bust. You know, it's not ideal to stack 1005 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 9: a game with a running back like him, but he 1006 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 9: can score quickly, so that's interesting. And I actually I 1007 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 9: am pretty bullish on the Titans passing options, especially if 1008 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 9: Brown comes back. So that's a sneakier game that the 1009 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 9: totals on the rise. And I think Arizona Detroit and 1010 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 9: Dallas Seattle will catch a lot of ownership. So any 1011 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 9: game that is not one of those two, I think 1012 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 9: you're gonna catcher with really low ownership. So I'd be 1013 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 9: looking to those game stacks for sure. 1014 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 3: Awesome stuff, Pete, thanks for dropping in. 1015 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me. 1016 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 10: The NFL season is upon us, and our friends at 1017 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 10: bet MGM Sports are offering Action Network podcast listeners a 1018 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 10: great sign up offer. 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We have DeAndre Hopkins, Defonte Adams, 1036 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 3: and Julio Jones. I think no big surprise there, although 1037 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 3: I would say I'm a little hesitant on Adams just 1038 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: because of the ankle injury and then the hamstring issue 1039 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 3: that he seemed to have. I mean, I think he's 1040 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 3: going to be fine. It seems like that's the this 1041 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: is leaning, but I'm still just a little bit hesitant, 1042 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 3: and I want to see some practice reports before, you know, 1043 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: really taking a stand on him. But will where are 1044 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: you with your rankings? 1045 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Hopkins is unquestionably the number one guy 1046 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 2: right now. They're still feeding him great matchup. I think 1047 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: that Adams is there if he practices, but we need 1048 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: to see it happen, and it's you know, it's not 1049 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 2: a great I know the Saints were terrible Monday night, 1050 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 2: but Marshall and Lottimore not necessarily a great matchup. I 1051 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 2: actually think you can make a case that two and 1052 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: three could be Amari Cooper and DK metcalf. 1053 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 3: I like where you're going here, because I actually did 1054 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 3: have Amari number one in my first run through, and 1055 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 3: then I bumped him down. I had him at a 1056 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 3: twenty eight percent market share and that just felt too high, 1057 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 3: and so I bumped him down a little bit, and 1058 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 3: now I have him. I think it, you know, only 1059 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 3: number five, but I totally agree with you in that 1060 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: he's still being targeted very heavily within that Cowboys offense. 1061 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see a high scoring game. 1062 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 3: There's nothing that the Seahawks defense is done to make 1063 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 3: me think that they are capable of stopping that Dallas 1064 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 3: aerial attack. And he's you know being targeted, you know, 1065 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 3: pretty not consistently, like far down the field, but like 1066 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 3: he's getting enough air yardage to where like if he 1067 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 3: gets targets, he could get some serious yardage with it. 1068 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm with you one hundred on Amari Cooper. 1069 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 3: I'm very interested in him for this week, Sean, who 1070 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 3: do you have in the top three? 1071 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 5: My top three is, well, I have DeAndre Hopkins number one, 1072 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 5: and then DeVante Adam's number two, but he is banged 1073 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 5: up so that that could change. Number three is still 1074 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 5: Julio Jones, but I will say it's basically tied with 1075 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 5: Julio and Calvin Rilei at number three. 1076 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 3: Chris, what about you? 1077 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 6: DeVante Adams is still in my top spot, but like 1078 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 6: Sean said, that could change depending on his status. 1079 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins number two, he would have send two. 1080 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 6: Number one, and then I believe it's Tyreek Hill number 1081 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 6: three for me. Still, Tyra Lockett and DK Metcalf and 1082 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley are also right there in my you know, 1083 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 6: pushing for that top spot. So it really depends on 1084 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 6: the injury status of Julio and and Devonsee, because them 1085 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 6: with DeAndre would be my top three assuming hell. But 1086 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 6: like Cooper, Bockett, Ridley Metcalf, all those guys are are 1087 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 6: are right there. 1088 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray Bond, I'm I'm there with you. I have 1089 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett number three. I have Hopkins and Julio at 1090 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 3: the top. Adams is further down the board just because 1091 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 3: I projected him a little more conservatively because of the injury. 1092 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: But Lockett, Ridley, Amari and yeah, those are even DJ Moore. 1093 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 3: But like those, those guys are all essentially tied for 1094 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 3: the third spot. But I have the slight edge with 1095 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett. Man, I mean, I think that that Dallas 1096 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 3: Seattle game is just going to be a total shootout. 1097 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 3: Will who who are some guys that you were relatively 1098 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 3: high on? 1099 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: Quickly? I would say Odell Beckham. I've led the Odell Beckham. 1100 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 2: I pounded the table that he would have a bounce 1101 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 2: back year. Week one was not kind, but Week two 1102 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 2: is pretty good and he should have really had two touchdowns. 1103 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: I think he's got a very nice matchup this week 1104 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 2: against a Washington football team that is not. We saw 1105 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 2: what I mean, Dodger hop could scored on a wide 1106 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 2: open touchdown like he won't even cover. They got a 1107 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: good front seven, but not nothing on the back end. 1108 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: So I'm high on him this week. I think Michael 1109 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 2: Gallup for DFS purposes, people are off he's dirt cheap. 1110 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 2: See Lamb I think is one hundred dollars less than 1111 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: Michael Gallup and Gallup hasn't seen a ton of targets. 1112 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: But this this game could be wide open enough where 1113 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 2: Gallup gets a couple of those looks down the field 1114 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 2: and he finally breaks out and people wonder at like 1115 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 2: five percent ownership or something like that. And then t 1116 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: Y Hilton, You know, I think it's probably a Jonathan 1117 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 2: Taylor game against the against the Jets. But the Colts 1118 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: scored a lot of points against the Vikings. I mean, 1119 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 2: they had four field goals inside of four field goals 1120 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 2: of forty yards or less. And if t Y can 1121 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 2: get loose in that secondary against the Jets, I think 1122 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: we could see a big league Sean. 1123 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 3: Who are you relatively high on? 1124 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 5: So, for the life of me, I can't figure out 1125 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 5: why DJ Moore is only sixty one hundred. I mean 1126 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 5: he's going to be an absolute target monster without CMC. 1127 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 5: You know, he has twenty two targets after two games, 1128 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 5: but only twelve receptions, so I think he'll see some 1129 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 5: regression just in terms of catching balls. But you know, 1130 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 5: at forty seven point five percent of team air yards, 1131 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 5: he's fourth in the league, So I just think he's 1132 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 5: due for massive positive regression. So he's my wide receiver ten, 1133 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 5: but like you guys mentioned, it's really bunched up in 1134 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 5: the top ten right now. But I think he has 1135 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 5: an extremely high floor. I mean, he's basically Julio Jones 1136 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 5: where he you know, you can bank on a ton 1137 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 5: of receptions and yards but not really touchdowns. So if 1138 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 5: he gets a touchdown, that's really icing on the cake 1139 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 5: at this point, and then the other guy is ceedee lamb. 1140 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to continue playing him if he's under fifty 1141 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 5: this week, he's fifty four hundred at Seattle. Like you 1142 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 5: said that this should be an absolute shootout. So I 1143 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 5: have him as a wide receiver too, at wide receiver 1144 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 5: twenty four. So yeah, like I said, I just keep 1145 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 5: taking him until he crosses at least fifty five hundred. 1146 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 3: Raymond, what do you got here? 1147 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 4: I love three. 1148 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 6: Guys I mentioned earlier, Cooper metcalf Lockett right in that 1149 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 6: sixty four to sixty five hundred range. Those guys are 1150 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 6: are priced below, you know, like Juju and Godwin and 1151 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 6: Evans and the Win and Stefan Diggs who has a 1152 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 6: really tough matchup against the Rams, and I don't think 1153 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 6: that should be the case at all. I think those 1154 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 6: guys are all in the conversation for top eight. And 1155 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 6: then DJ Moore just like Sean said, way too cheap 1156 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 6: at at sixty one hundred as well. 1157 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 3: Okay, as a longtime fan of Juju Smith Schuster, it 1158 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 3: pains me to say this, but Deontay Johnson, I'm pretty 1159 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: high on him. This week, he in theory is going 1160 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 3: to see the shadow coverage of Bradley Roby, which I 1161 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 3: think is funny that the Texans are even using Roby 1162 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 3: in shadow coverage because it's not like he's a shutdown corner. 1163 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 3: He's a guy if anything, that might honestly be a 1164 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 3: good situation. But I think at a minimum, it's just 1165 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 3: like it's nothing. It's not like a deterrent and Roethlisberger 1166 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 3: has shown the willingness for the past two games to 1167 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 3: Pepper Deontay Johnson with targets. And even though Johnson hasn't 1168 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 3: been Antonio Brown esque in his ability to turn those 1169 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 3: targets into a ton of yards, he's still getting Antonio 1170 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 3: Brown level usage. And I think at some point, if 1171 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 3: he actually is getting that usage, it might indicate that 1172 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 3: he's probably good enough to do something with that target volume. 1173 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 3: And you know, we know that he was a good 1174 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 3: producer in college. He was very underappreciated in his rookie season, 1175 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 3: actually the number one rookie receiver in terms of receptions, 1176 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 3: even though he wasn't playing with Rosslisberger. So I think 1177 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 3: there's some some potential here. And that's not to take 1178 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 3: anything away from Juju at all. I'm probably high on 1179 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 3: both of these guys. But Deontay Johnson is much further 1180 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 3: up the board than I thought he would be, and 1181 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 3: maybe that target volume doesn't stick right. That would be 1182 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: the case against him, is that like he's just kind 1183 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: of lucked his way into twenty three targets in two games, 1184 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 3: and that that regresses. But I think that this might 1185 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 3: be this might be pretty sticky, and if it is, 1186 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 3: he could just totally explode. Will who are you relatively 1187 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 3: low on? 1188 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'll pair up my quarterback with a wide receiver. 1189 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 2: Here go with Stefan Diggs. I just think Jalen Ramsey's 1190 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 2: probably gonna shadow him the entire time. Maybe I could 1191 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 2: be wrong, but that seems like what they'll do. Either way, 1192 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 2: the Rams have done a great job locking down wide 1193 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 2: receivers and locking down what should be better passing games. 1194 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: And the Cowboys and the Eagles, I don't think we 1195 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: see a massive game from Diggs. I think people will 1196 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 2: be chasing his breakout against the Dolphins. But if you again, 1197 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 2: if you watch the game, is a shot where like 1198 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 2: Diggs is running with the ball towards or making a catch, 1199 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 2: and like Byron Jones is laying on the ground holding 1200 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,280 Speaker 2: his crotch because he heard his groin. He's just laying 1201 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: there like French toast and Diggs is running with the 1202 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 2: ball and you feel bad because the guy's you know, 1203 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 2: ripped his his you know, privates up. But like, I 1204 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't think he's gonna get that sort 1205 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 2: of matchup this week. 1206 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 3: Sean, who are you relatively low on? 1207 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 5: I'm also low on Diggs, especially at seven K this week, 1208 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 5: the arrow is certainly pointing way up for he and 1209 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 5: Josh Allen. Like I said last week, I thought they 1210 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 5: were a sneaky stack, but this week, yeah, I have 1211 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 5: him a wide receiver fifteen. He has a tougher test 1212 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 5: this week against Jalen Ramsey, so I think he could 1213 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 5: be over owned easy fade for me, but we'll absolutely 1214 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 5: be stacking him again on the in your future. And 1215 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 5: I'm also low on Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. You know, 1216 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 5: Brady will finally get both receivers back healthy this week, 1217 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 5: but unfortunately, this is a game where I could see 1218 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 5: them being run heavy at Denver against Jeff Driscoll. This 1219 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 5: is one of those games where it would be nice 1220 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 5: to have Jameis Winson throw a couple interceptions, maybe a 1221 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 5: pick six to keep them in the game, but you know, 1222 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 5: I just don't see that happening. I think they'll play 1223 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 5: it pretty safe. So I have both guys, as you know, 1224 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 5: low end wide receiver twos. I think they just having 1225 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 5: everybody healthy sort of caps everyone ceiling. This isn't really 1226 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 5: a high volume offense quite yet, so I'm low on 1227 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 5: both guys this week. 1228 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 6: What you absolutely Stefan Diggs, he stood out and I 1229 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 6: would even say John Brown as well. If you look 1230 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 6: at the rams against against wide receivers, forty one targets 1231 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 6: for just three hundred yards. 1232 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 4: That's to seven point three per target. 1233 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 6: The league average about eight eight point one and no 1234 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 6: touchdowns through two games and forty one targets. Remember, they 1235 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 6: faced Amari, they faced you know, Ceede Wham Gallop, DeShawn Jackson, 1236 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 6: you know, a decent group of receivers. They've just been 1237 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 6: shutting them down. And then another guy a little further 1238 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 6: down it from is aj Green. He's been getting a 1239 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 6: ton of he's been getting like looks from Joe Burrow, 1240 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 6: and they haven't been really translating all that much. And 1241 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 6: I just think that against this the silly defense. They 1242 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 6: held mclauren in check to sixty one yards and seven targets, 1243 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 6: no touchdowns. They haven't a lot of touchdown to wide receivers. 1244 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 6: And Robert Woods, you know, who had a big week one, 1245 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 6: he was kind of de emphasizing the game plan a 1246 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 6: little bit. Wasn't able to really break free, just two 1247 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 6: catches on five targets for fourteen yards, while Cooper Cup 1248 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 6: you know, jumped up with five of six for eighty one, 1249 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 6: so and Van Jefferson had for forty five. I think 1250 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 6: that Green is a little more similar to to Woods, 1251 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 6: and that he's probably gonna run a little few more 1252 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 6: routes on the perimeter, and I think they're gonna have 1253 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 6: to kind of dial back his usage for at least 1254 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 6: this game, and what Borrow spread around a little bit 1255 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 6: more so, And he just doesn't look back yet, like 1256 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 6: fully back yet. So Green's another guy like the targets 1257 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 6: are there but not really loving. 1258 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 3: It all right. One guy I'm relatively low on, and 1259 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 3: I'd like to second the Tampa Bay Buccaneers there with 1260 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 3: Sean low on them. But one guy I'm low on 1261 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, who had a pretty good game last week. 1262 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 3: But I think this week we might see the Chargers 1263 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 3: go back to Tyrod Taylor, and I think that will 1264 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 3: not be a good thing at all for Keenan Allen, 1265 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 3: and so I have him right now projected outside of 1266 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 3: I believe my top thirty six, so thinking of him 1267 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 3: as more of a wide receiver for this week. Sean 1268 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 3: give us the prop. 1269 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 5: So it gives me great pleasure to be able to 1270 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 5: ask this question already in week three. I think it's 1271 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 5: truly a fifty to fifty prop. So who will score 1272 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 5: more DK points this week? Julio Jones or Calvin Ridley. 1273 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 2: That's spicy. I will say Julio Jones because I think everyone, 1274 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 2: I think the whole world thinks Calvin. 1275 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Ridley will that is spicy, and I do think that 1276 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 3: is pretty much fifty to fifty. 1277 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the best case snaari for really. I mean, 1278 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 5: Julio is obviously, you know, being slowed down by this 1279 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 5: handy injury, but him playing with a hammy injury is 1280 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 5: probably the best case snaire for I think if Juli 1281 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 5: was like downright ruled out, I might lower Ridley a 1282 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 5: little bit, but really running Hulo running around sort of 1283 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 5: GIMPI is sort of best case scenario for Ridley Right now. 1284 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 3: I will I will take the Ridley side of this, 1285 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 3: just because I do think that Julio is is probably 1286 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 3: hampered more than we think. 1287 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 2: You're wish casting your ninety to one the lead. 1288 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 5: Yes, right now he's he's in the lead, So I'm 1289 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 5: not gonna say anything. 1290 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't I got him at forty. 1291 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go Ridley because number one, if if 1292 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 6: Julio plays even through an injury. 1293 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 4: That'll be great for him as a decoy for Ridley. 1294 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 6: But number two, I usually you know, knock down guys 1295 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 6: a percentage when they're playing through an injury, So Julio 1296 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 6: will get that, which will. 1297 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 4: Kind of equalize it. 1298 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 6: But the right answer may be none of them, because 1299 01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 6: this is the Bears have been pretty tough. 1300 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 4: It might be Russell Gage, you know. 1301 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 6: Amandola went for eighty one on seven targets in week one, 1302 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 6: Marvin Jones got held to fifty five yards and eight targets. 1303 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 4: Cefast forty three. 1304 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 6: Yards and ten targets, and then and then last week, 1305 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 6: Golden Tate led the Giants with forty seven yards caught 1306 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 6: five to five. Swayton just thirty three yards on six targets. 1307 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 6: CJ Board thirty two one three, Shepherd just twenty nine 1308 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 6: on four. He's playing more outside and ratt Wee didn't 1309 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 6: even catch any of his two. So they're playing really 1310 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 6: good perimeter defense and struggling over the middle. Maybe a 1311 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 6: Hurst and Russell Gage game. 1312 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Raymon, I love how you took the time to deconstruct 1313 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 3: the prop. Thanks for thanks for doing. 1314 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah I could I could have just flooded, like you know, 1315 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 5: I'll give you a gauge at six to one Hurst. 1316 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 4: I'll take it. 1317 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 3: I'll take it. 1318 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 4: I'll take it. 1319 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 6: No, I just wanted to point that out, like, yeah, Page, 1320 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,479 Speaker 6: don't forget about games playing well. 1321 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the tight ends. The guys 1322 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 3: at the top of our rankings, Travis Kelcey, Darren Waller 1323 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 3: and Mark Andrews. Will who do you have at the 1324 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 3: top that is save group that I have? Yeah, makes 1325 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I mean, Sean, is that how 1326 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 3: you had them ranked? 1327 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 5: I have Kittle up there for now, but yeah, I 1328 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 5: think Waller. If Kittle is out, Waller would would probably 1329 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 5: be my number three. But right now I have Andrews 1330 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 5: number two. 1331 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rayvon, how do you have them ranked? I mean, 1332 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I have I have Waller number one 1333 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 3: right now, which is probably aggressive, but given that he 1334 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 3: has a thirty nine percent target chair, which that number 1335 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 3: has to come down, like it must come down. But 1336 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 3: even if it comes down, what does it come down to? 1337 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Like twenty six? I mean like he's he's the heart 1338 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 3: of that Oakland sorry, that Las Vegas passing offense. I 1339 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 3: think he continues to get targeted at a pretty high rate. 1340 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 3: And if that's the case. I have him number one, 1341 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 3: But where do you have him? 1342 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 6: I have him number three. I also don't think George 1343 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 6: Kittle will play. I may be wrong, but I was 1344 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 6: reading about Kyle Shanahan and they said that in met 1345 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 6: life is really concerning and they're playing their second straight 1346 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 6: week on that turf. 1347 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 4: You're not putting they're. 1348 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Not putting it up. Yeah, and so risk losing kill 1349 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 2: for the season by putting him out on that turf. 1350 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1351 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 6: So ESPN has actually said, you know, Quota Shanahan is saying, 1352 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 6: We're gonna be careful with our with our guys that 1353 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 6: are already heard on that turf. 1354 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 4: So I'm just not even I don't even have them 1355 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:18,959 Speaker 4: ranked right now. So I have. 1356 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 6: Travis Kelcey number one. Baltimore is really tough at the 1357 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 6: corner position. They play tight ends well too. But I 1358 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 6: think you know, Kelsey's obviously is gonna be who he is. 1359 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 6: He's got the quarterback for it. 1360 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 1361 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 6: And then Andrews. I still got to go number two. 1362 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 6: Kansas City. Steve Spagnovo great, doing a great job. L 1363 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 6: Jerry Sneed the cornerback has allowed you know, No, I 1364 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 6: don't even thinks about a hundred yards on twelve targets. 1365 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 6: He's already got two picks. They funneled the football away 1366 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 6: from receivers kind of on purpose. They like to get 1367 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 6: you to target, you know, tight ends and bats and 1368 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 6: things like that. So I think Andrews and in a 1369 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 6: potential shootout, has to be number two and then Waller's 1370 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 6: number three. Friedman, I'm with you on the you know, 1371 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 6: the usage is there. I he actually popped his my 1372 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 6: number two tight end last week, and I think I 1373 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 6: lowered him, which was a mistake. 1374 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 4: But it worries me against the Patriots because. 1375 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 6: Going back to even last year, they were whites out 1376 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 6: against tight ends and even with those corners, which you 1377 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 6: wouldn't expect, you'd expect the ball to kind of funnel 1378 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 6: to tight ends. Last year it didn't, and then this 1379 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 6: year they've continue to just not allow production to the 1380 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 6: tight end position. Mike GEESICKI had a slow game. Greg 1381 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 6: Olsen had Russell Wilson's only blemish of the season essentially 1382 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 6: by dropping a pass into the lap of the defense 1383 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 6: for a pick six, and then Russell Wilson didn't even 1384 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 6: look at it tight ends the rest of the game. 1385 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 6: I mean, Russell Wilson went completely nuclear without even looking 1386 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 6: at his tight end. So New England doing a good 1387 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 6: job against tight ends. This probably could be the game 1388 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 6: where Waller takes a little bit of a step back, 1389 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 6: but I still have him number three because the volume 1390 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 6: is just too strong. 1391 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you there on Waller and the matchup, 1392 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 3: it is tough. I would just say, like Waller is 1393 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 3: different than a lot of tight ends that the Patriots 1394 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 3: have gone against. One thing to your point about Andrews, 1395 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 3: and we will need to kind of keep an eye 1396 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 3: on this Tyron Matthew. People have talked in the past 1397 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 3: about him playing sort of this safety slot cornerback hybrid role. 1398 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 3: I think that's been a little bit overblown, but like 1399 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 3: last week, he literally did play slot corner and if 1400 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 3: that happens again, then that means that he won't be 1401 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 3: matching up against Mark Andrews, which I think would be 1402 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 3: a big check mark in favor of Andrews and what 1403 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 3: he could do against the Chiefs in Week three. So 1404 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on, will. 1405 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry real quick. 1406 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 6: So with Matthews in the healthy last for the last 1407 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 6: matchup against against him last year, like when they played 1408 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 6: in Week three, because Andrews actually did have a pretty 1409 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 6: bad game, just three catches for fifteen yards and seven targets. 1410 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 4: So that's a really great point. 1411 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Matthew was against him, was the guy 1412 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 3: match up against him in Week three last year, so 1413 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 3: if he's not up ageins But but I'm also thinking, 1414 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 3: like they know that Mark Andrews is an important part 1415 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 3: of that passing offense, they might just shift Matthew back 1416 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 3: to strong safety for this game. Will who are you 1417 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 3: relatively high on? 1418 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 2: A guy I loved? And I've been talking about this 1419 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Buffalo Miami game like, I don't know why I like 1420 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 2: it too much. It's Buffalo in Miami. But Mike Kiseki 1421 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 2: looks like he might be actually starting to break out 1422 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 2: a little bit. And I mean he made some really 1423 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 2: athletic catches for Ryan Fitzpatrick. We know that fits against 1424 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 2: the Jaguars on Thursday night is probably going to be 1425 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 2: have to be throwing the ball a little bit decent 1426 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 2: chance that they're in a positive game. Script if James 1427 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 2: ry if the Jaguars gonna lead and James Robinson's running 1428 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 2: the ball and then they're throwing to Gaseki, they tend 1429 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 2: to throw a lot against Buffalo were successful. I thin 1430 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 2: Kaaki could have another big week this week. 1431 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 3: Sean, what about you? 1432 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 5: So I think in DFS, I think I'm going to 1433 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 5: be spending up that quarterback. I was spending up at 1434 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 5: wide receiver, going to be spending up at running back. 1435 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 5: So I think this week, especially Logan Thomas at thirty seven, hun, 1436 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 5: I mean, he just has an insanely high floor at 1437 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 5: that price. He ran around ninety five percent of the 1438 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 5: dropbacks last week, leads a team in targets is seventeen. 1439 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 5: That's one more than Terry. So I just think, given 1440 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 5: his high floor, you gotta take him at that price 1441 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 5: and the other guy. This is gonna make Raybaund so happy? 1442 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 5: Is Dan freaking Arnold? Oh my god, eight hundred. 1443 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome, Sean Arnold. 1444 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 3: Love it. 1445 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 5: Like I said before the season started, if you want 1446 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 5: two catches for twenty yards, Dan Arnold is your guy. 1447 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 5: But you know Max Williams was out last week. He 1448 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,599 Speaker 5: might mess again this week. So Dan Arold's routes run 1449 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 5: spiked up to seventy two percent last week. That should 1450 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 5: continue if defenses start to really key in on DeAndre Hopkins, 1451 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 5: which I think they probably it's probably. 1452 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 4: A good idea. 1453 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 5: Dan Arnold could be one of the guys that benefits, 1454 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 5: especially at home against the Lions. So I think just 1455 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 5: if you're gonna take a cheap flyer at tight end, 1456 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 5: dan Arnold is the man. 1457 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 3: This week, okay. And Williams is definitely out this week. 1458 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 3: He was just placed before they are. So Raymond, who 1459 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 3: are you relatively high on? 1460 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1461 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 6: I got I've got to run it back with that 1462 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 6: Logan Thomas call. I mean, not only is Logan Thomas 1463 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 6: playing more than pretty much any tight end has over 1464 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 6: the past couple of years, Like you usually see the 1465 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 6: top tight end pop out at like eighty five percent 1466 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 6: of the routes, and Thomas is pretty much in there 1467 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 6: every snap. But the Browns the opponent this week for 1468 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 6: the football team allowing the most points in the NFL 1469 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 6: to the tight end position. Now that's a very kind 1470 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 6: of noisy stat so you know, you don't want to 1471 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,799 Speaker 6: read too much into it. And they did face Mark Andrews, 1472 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 6: but they also faced cj Usama and Drew Sample and 1473 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 6: they combined for eleven catches eighty seven yards in a touchdown. 1474 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 6: So the strength of schedule with Mark Andrews did them 1475 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 6: a favor you know, five for fifty eight and two scores, 1476 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 6: but they gave up essentially the same type of line 1477 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 6: to to you know, two of the worst tight ends 1478 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 6: in the week. 1479 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 4: Logan Thomas love him this week in all formats. 1480 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. 1481 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 4: There. 1482 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 3: There are a lot of guys who are injured for 1483 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns just in terms of like their their 1484 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,679 Speaker 3: secondary and linebacker corps. So the guys who would normally 1485 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 3: be defending the tight end just aren't there. John new Smith, 1486 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 3: for me, is a guy that I'm really high on. 1487 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,679 Speaker 3: He's getting more targets than I think he normally would 1488 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 3: be with a J. Brown out, So as long as 1489 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 3: Brown is out and or hampered, I think Smith is 1490 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 3: someone I'm going to continue to be interested in. And 1491 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 3: he's been highly efficient this year, but there's it's nothing 1492 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 3: new Like he's always been highly efficient. He's got ten 1493 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 3: yards per target this year. He had ten yards per 1494 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 3: target last year. So he's basically continuing to do John 1495 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 3: new Smith things. It's just now that he's getting more targets, 1496 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 3: and as long as he continues to see that volume, 1497 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 3: he's someone I'm going to be extremely invested in. Will 1498 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 3: who are you low on. 1499 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 2: I think I'll be low on the Eagles tight ends 1500 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 2: this week with Arts and Dallas got and that's not 1501 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 2: because they're not great and they can end up making 1502 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 2: me look like a fool because the Bengals defense is awful. 1503 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 2: But Sean alluded to it. I think we see a 1504 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 2: real Miles Sanders game here, and as good as good 1505 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 2: as Carson Wentz can be, maybe throwing the ball to 1506 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 2: his tight ends if you're gonna play one of those 1507 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 2: guys you really sort of want, and maybe maybe it's 1508 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a shootout. Maybe the Eagles defns plays awful, 1509 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 2: but I don't know that I trust either one of 1510 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 2: those guys. And the other guy that I would say 1511 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 2: is I don't know if I love Hayden Hurst this week. 1512 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 2: I feel like his touchdown might have been a little fluky. 1513 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 3: Sean, who are you low on? 1514 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 4: I'm low on Tyler Higbee this week. 1515 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 5: Although at Buffalo is not a bad matchup, but he's 1516 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 5: fifty nine hundred, He's coming off the monster a free 1517 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 5: touchdown game. He's never really been a touchdown guy, so 1518 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 5: I want to see that extend beyond one week. But 1519 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,639 Speaker 5: I'm just fitting him at this price just because his 1520 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 5: his roots run per dropback actually dipped to fifty three percent. 1521 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 5: Gerald Everett really didn't do anything in the twenty three 1522 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 5: percent of snaps, but still, you know, he's getting some usage. 1523 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 5: So I think Higgreby's gonna have to maintain this like 1524 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 5: extreme efficiency just to keep this up. So I'm fading 1525 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 5: him this week again. You know, if you're in season long, 1526 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 5: he's still my tight end nine, you're still playing him. 1527 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,560 Speaker 4: But I would definitely lower. 1528 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 5: Expectations and he should not be close to six K 1529 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 5: this week. You know, I think he's gonna be over 1530 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 5: owned based off that three touchdown game, but I think 1531 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 5: you know, he's due for some pretty significant regression this week. 1532 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 3: Rave On What about you? 1533 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree on Higbee. 1534 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,719 Speaker 6: I think if you look at Higbee, I think Buffalo 1535 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 6: is actually the worst matchup for tight ends the last 1536 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 6: two years, they've been top three in yards allowed. They 1537 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 6: gave himup a big game to Mike Gaziki. Why because 1538 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 6: Mike Gasiki ran twenty six of his thirty two routes 1539 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 6: in the slot, So he wasn't really a tight end 1540 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 6: at all against against Buffalo. And I think Higby's gonna 1541 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 6: play a little bit more in line because they aren't 1542 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 6: using everet a Ton, They're still they still want to 1543 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 6: get Cooper Cup lined up in the spot. 1544 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 4: They're using him every snap. 1545 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 6: So I do think this is actually a bad spot 1546 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 6: for Higby, and I'd be concerned all year about about 1547 01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 6: using tight ends against. 1548 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 4: Buffalo spite that big game from Michael Giseicki. 1549 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just kind of piggybacking on that. I think 1550 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm relatively low on Gasicki this week in parts because 1551 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 3: I could see sort of massive overreaction in the market 1552 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 3: to what he did last week. Okay, Sean, give us 1553 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,480 Speaker 3: the prop for tight ends. 1554 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna stick with Tyler Higbee. So his receiving yards, 1555 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 5: I have it at fifty and a half. 1556 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 2: I'll take that. I'll take the under on anything in 1557 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 2: that game. I think. I just think Rams Bills is 1558 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 2: going to be like seventeen to fourteen. People are like, yeah, 1559 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 2: that was very explosive. 1560 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 4: I got him five yards under. 1561 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 6: I think coming into the year, you know, kind of 1562 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 6: the consensus projection was around forty five forty six yards 1563 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 6: per game. That's where I have him so under. 1564 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 3: I have it at fifty one, but I'm going to 1565 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 3: take the under just to have lopsided action here. 1566 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, now I need to go over him. 1567 01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 3: I'm fading him, all right, Will Content, what you got 1568 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 3: for us at CBS? 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