Speaker 1: If you were to flog, if you were to go
Speaker 1: visit Everything park, would you bring this gentleman with you
Speaker 1: a little added spice.
Speaker 2: Look at that handsome man. Well spoke in my face.
Speaker 2: How dare you? Hey, daddy looking you? You look wonderful.
Speaker 2: This is Fonsie. Everyone. Bill al Fondo is here.
Speaker 3: Everybody, Thanks for having me on the broadcast for Annie.
Speaker 2: You look fantastic.
Speaker 3: I feel good. I feel good. I'm outside. I live
Speaker 3: in Tampa Bay. It's a little cool here. It's like
Speaker 3: sixty eight or something. Rainy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday. I was telling
Speaker 2: Phonsie we're coming down soon, and he said, he said,
Speaker 2: I hope not soon. It's raining. No, but we're gonna be.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be down there for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping the weather gets a little more friendly.
Speaker 3: You know it will.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what are you doing today? You're walking around
Speaker 2: your your house?
Speaker 3: I see, yeah, my office, and show you guys some
Speaker 3: stuff that okay, all kinds of stuff that we can
Speaker 3: talk about.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, go back, start with that picture at the top.
Speaker 2: Is that you and uh, yes, it is you and
Speaker 2: Todd Gordon. Yes, okay, that's.
Speaker 3: That's in Japan when we went. Did you go with this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why maybe I took the picture? Yes there, I'm there.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely you were. I just got some stuff that
Speaker 3: we can talk about to have a course. And before that,
Speaker 3: you know, I refereed for twenty five years. Right, And
Speaker 3: let me show you one of my favorite pictures I
Speaker 3: see every day.
Speaker 2: God, I don't even I don't know.
Speaker 3: It popped up on my social media one day and
Speaker 3: I made a copy of it and made it enlarge
Speaker 3: and singing in my office, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: It's me and Fonzie on his wall. How cute is that?
Speaker 3: I think it's somebody gimmicked the picture because you were standing.
Speaker 3: Maybe they put us. Do you remember doing any graffiti?
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. It was it was for you, weren't there,
Speaker 2: so of course they photoshopped you in. But that was
Speaker 2: for an ECW calendar that never got produced.
Speaker 3: Okay, I remember, now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that picture, that picture of me is everywhere.
Speaker 2: But I guarantee Phonzie was not at that shoot.
Speaker 3: Day.
Speaker 1: Paint Fonzie on the wall.
Speaker 2: No, Fonzid was not on the wall. But that's awesome,
Speaker 2: that's so. But he did that.
Speaker 3: I know that I love it. So I like it
Speaker 3: so months I've put in my office what's in funds?
Speaker 2: We're going to go backwards, but I want to just
Speaker 2: discuss it.
Speaker 3: Okay, basically happened with you.
Speaker 2: So GCW had a huge pay per view this past
Speaker 2: week and had Hammerstein and you and the Lovely Saboo
Speaker 2: showed up. So can you tell us how that came about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked for this company, you know, I think
Speaker 3: last year I worked forty weekends, which was cool in
Speaker 3: these you know they call them in these shows and
Speaker 3: convention and so on and so on an appearance, and so
Speaker 3: I got lucky. He did about forty shows at this
Speaker 3: company in Ohio. I managed a guy named Matthew Justice.
Speaker 3: He's badass, he's hardcore, and so I go up there
Speaker 3: once a month for the last couple of years and
Speaker 3: work with him. And he's been working with GCW. They said, hey, Fonsi,
Speaker 3: they brought up your name in GCW. So they wanted
Speaker 3: me to work a couple of shows for him, but
Speaker 3: I was already booked. So when they came up with
Speaker 3: him sign, I said, Dan, that'd be the perfect place
Speaker 3: because we ran there, yep. So for me to make
Speaker 3: my debut and he's in GCW. That could have picked
Speaker 3: a better building and got a good reception. So they
Speaker 3: just called me and asked me to come in and
Speaker 3: sa bou and do the lights off, lights on. It
Speaker 3: worked out and you know, it was really cool.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Yeah. When I I popped huge
Speaker 2: because I have the pay per view, but I didn't
Speaker 2: watch it yet, and then I heard that you guys
Speaker 2: were on it, I was like, damn, that's awesome. I
Speaker 2: love that. So I'm gonna check that out probably this weekend. Okay,
Speaker 2: cot on the plane if I need something to watch,
Speaker 2: so maybe I'll download it to my my iPad and
Speaker 2: watch perfect.
Speaker 3: It was a good show. There's a lot of guys
Speaker 3: you won't know, and there's a few guys that you
Speaker 3: will know. Right when I do these indie shows, I
Speaker 3: meet all kind of young new superstars and they're all
Speaker 3: bad asses. But I don't know them and they all
Speaker 3: know us.
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, yeah, do you ever come across
Speaker 2: We were talking about this before, like sometimes Shane and
Speaker 2: I will walk into a room at a show and
Speaker 2: like people look up and then they'll look back down.
Speaker 2: They won't even say hello, Like does that bother you
Speaker 2: if they, like, does that ever happen to you, because
Speaker 2: like we just brush it off as okay, they're young,
Speaker 2: maybe they weren't in the ECW. They don't know who
Speaker 2: we are. Like I still walk around and shake people's
Speaker 2: hands because that was the way we were brought up,
Speaker 2: you know. When I came up in the business, I
Speaker 2: was taught shake everybody's hand, you know, and that's what
Speaker 2: I still do. And I introduced myself and some of
Speaker 2: these kids don't even look at you, and it's like, well.
Speaker 3: It happens to me once in a while when I
Speaker 3: do one of the bigger conventions and one of the
Speaker 3: bigger names is there. Like recently we did a show
Speaker 3: at the ECW Arena convention with Feinstein. They had been
Speaker 3: me a bunch of people there and I think they
Speaker 3: brought in Kine and Kane had a fucking line to
Speaker 3: go to his booth and it was all people who
Speaker 3: don't know us.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It didn't bother me, but I said, damn, I wish
Speaker 3: I was as you know, over as he was, but
Speaker 3: he had more TV time and all that I'm talking.
Speaker 2: To, I'm talking about the boys. I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: fan like when we walk into a locker room and
Speaker 2: it's an Indie fed and we've never worked there before, right,
Speaker 2: and she like, you know, Shane and I will walk
Speaker 2: into the room and the boys will be putting on
Speaker 2: their boots or you know, their trunks were, and they'll
Speaker 2: look at us, and some will run over and say hello,
Speaker 2: and others will just look and put their heads down,
Speaker 2: not even give us like the time of day. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's such a different like the way they
Speaker 2: come up these days. I guess it's different than when
Speaker 2: I was younger, because I was taught you need to
Speaker 2: go around and say hello to every single person. I
Speaker 2: don't think anymore though, like you get it, would you
Speaker 2: get offended? Because I kind of just brush it off, like,
Speaker 2: oh well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd brush it off because, uh, I don't work
Speaker 3: with these guys all the time, and some of us
Speaker 3: don't know us, and they're all young. All the guys
Speaker 3: on the cart are from you know, a eighteen twenty
Speaker 3: five years old. Yeah, they weren't even born in the nineties,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, some old timers will get mad, and
Speaker 2: then others just are like who cares?
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I don't get out of mad me neither.
Speaker 2: Well that's good. I'm glad that you got your foot
Speaker 2: in the door with them, and hopefully they you know,
Speaker 2: they use you more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked to I guess he's the owner, Brett.
Speaker 3: He was pretty cool, and he says, SFONZI, when it
Speaker 3: is feasible, we'd love to bring you in. Of course,
Speaker 3: we're in California and we're drawn three hundred people. We
Speaker 3: yet fly in, but we're doing big shows like we
Speaker 3: did at the Hammer Sign. They almost had three thousand
Speaker 3: people there. Yeah, and it was a pay per view,
Speaker 3: so it made sense. You said anything bigger would love
Speaker 3: to have you, and we like what you did. Thank
Speaker 3: you so much, and I love it. Got a warm reception,
Speaker 3: so it was pretty good. So I think I will
Speaker 3: be getting some work with them eventually.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, that's good. So you said you had
Speaker 2: forty dates last year during the pandemic, right.
Speaker 3: But we were off at the first part of the pandemic.
Speaker 3: Everything was shut down and then it started lighting up
Speaker 3: a little bit and the show started happening. So I
Speaker 3: wear a mask everywhere I go. I've got both doses
Speaker 3: and I got my booster and all that so I
Speaker 3: feel comfortable, but I still wear my mask in the
Speaker 3: dressing room and stuff and try to be vigilant, especially
Speaker 3: in New York City the other day. Right, So, but
Speaker 3: their shows running, the shows running, So I did work
Speaker 3: a lot last year, smaller companies. There's a company in
Speaker 3: Florida called CCW Coastal Champion Wrestling Gangarell is one of
Speaker 3: the teachers at their facility, and I worked with him
Speaker 3: a lot, okay, twice a month at least. And I
Speaker 3: worked for that ai W John Thorne Cleveland once or
Speaker 3: twice a month too. So between that and some appearances
Speaker 3: here and there, like at a toy store being saboul
Speaker 3: or whatever. So I got lucky last year and kept
Speaker 3: pretty busy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a forty is a lot? Uh
Speaker 2: for the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, at least forty shows last year.
Speaker 2: Woh, well, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: And podcasts too, and I've been doing when when the
Speaker 3: pandemic kid, I went online and said, hey, I'm available
Speaker 3: for podcasts since nobody's doing any shows, and I got
Speaker 3: a like seventy responses and I end up doing about
Speaker 3: twenty podcasts, not charge of a small talent feed. Sure
Speaker 3: you know and they love it and we tell stories.
Speaker 3: And so I did quite a few of those last
Speaker 3: year too. Now lucky, I mean the year before last year, Right,
Speaker 3: I did several. I do you know, once a month
Speaker 3: or sometimes you're lucky somebody calls me.
Speaker 2: But I always ask my friends who come on here,
Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be E CW based. Funniest
Speaker 2: story that you have in the vault that you can
Speaker 2: that you can share, because I know there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that we can't talk about in the air.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm about anything. But well, so many funny stories.
Speaker 3: It's hard to come up with one.
Speaker 2: Just pick one.
Speaker 3: Well, there's stories. I don't know if there's there're funny
Speaker 3: stories like me running over an alligator putting it in
Speaker 3: the trunk and I had mood uh Angelo Mosca. All
Speaker 3: people who have never seen alligator is Roddy Piper. You know.
Speaker 3: They were amazed at the alligator. We thought he was dead,
Speaker 3: but I threw him in the trunk. He was The
Speaker 3: alligator was so big and I readed a caddy because
Speaker 3: I had the guys with me. The alligator was so
Speaker 3: big he would fit in the trunk. I had to
Speaker 3: fold him up like a doughnut to fit him in
Speaker 3: the trunk. But all I did was knock him out.
Speaker 3: When I hit, I ran over and with the car
Speaker 3: ran over his head. So he was in a cold
Speaker 3: sell it in the truck it. Yeah, so he came
Speaker 3: alive on it. We had still two hours ago home
Speaker 3: and he started flipping around in the trunk and they
Speaker 3: thought it was great. They thought he was gonna come
Speaker 3: through the backseat and you know, and get the Canadian
Speaker 3: and Japanese kid. Uh, those stories like that.
Speaker 2: You know, he's so crazy. I saw we even talked
Speaker 2: about this. It might have been last year. I saw
Speaker 2: a video of you online and I meant to ask
Speaker 2: you about it. I totally forgot to ask you. It
Speaker 2: was you. It was you at an indie show in
Speaker 2: the parking lot, and I guess it was the owner
Speaker 2: of the company. We watched it, Oh, we watched it.
Speaker 3: Kind of shoot with the guy you were.
Speaker 2: Saying you owe me like either it was one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety nine or two hundred and ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 3: So this guy, this promoter guy, and this was this
Speaker 3: was around the Easy w time too. This that was
Speaker 3: a long time ago.
Speaker 2: It was Oh, I just saw it yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It's an old video. So I was working full time
Speaker 3: with you guys E c W and I had so
Speaker 3: this guy called me and wanted me to do a
Speaker 3: show with him, an indie show. He called me about
Speaker 3: twenty five times. Finally I agreed to do a show
Speaker 3: with him, and he gave me a check at the
Speaker 3: end of the show, and of course the check was
Speaker 3: no good. And I tried calling him for a month
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't return my call. Was trying to get
Speaker 3: the you know, the tech cleared or whatever, and so
Speaker 3: he was avoiding me. Finally I ran into him at
Speaker 3: in the parking lot and I had some words with him,
Speaker 3: and it was pretty cool. I was mad.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I was. I kept saying to myself,
Speaker 2: is this some work or shoot?
Speaker 3: Like? Cause I that was a shoot and that's not me.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty fucking cool. I'd never get mad. I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck what happens.
Speaker 2: But you dove through the window as the guy was
Speaker 2: driving the car. Horror.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're bad.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna leave, motherfucker. You're not gonna leave me, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: And you dove as he's driving. You went through the window.
Speaker 3: I was trying to turn this far off the move.
Speaker 3: It was crazy and the only reason I was mad
Speaker 3: because he called me every week for two months to
Speaker 3: try to give me to do this show, and then
Speaker 3: when I tried to call him about the chech being mad,
Speaker 3: he never returned my call. And so that's what made
Speaker 3: me mad.
Speaker 2: When I see it, we had the video right now
Speaker 2: because I would pull it up. I can we watch
Speaker 2: it real quick, George, have you seen this recently?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it recently, I swear to god.
Speaker 2: I I picked this apart on the show and I
Speaker 2: was just like, is this a work or a shoot?
Speaker 2: Is this an angle? I don't I thought it just
Speaker 2: happened like a month ago. When I saw this. It's
Speaker 2: hilarious and you were just you're big leaguing him and
Speaker 2: you're pushing him, and then you dove through the window.
Speaker 3: And I can't believe I did that because the guy
Speaker 3: was big and I'm small.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were piped up, you were ready to fright.
Speaker 3: He probably would have beat my ass, but he knew
Speaker 3: he wasn't wrong for giving me a bad check and all.
Speaker 2: That that was on a circle of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so great.
Speaker 3: And that was like at a pub pool hal thing
Speaker 3: where they have tournaments on Wednesday. And I went down
Speaker 3: to see a buddy of mine play, and there the
Speaker 3: guy pulls up and I said, oh, hey, daddy, I'm
Speaker 3: got a bad check. Can you cat? Can you make
Speaker 3: you take good? And he was backing off, and.
Speaker 2: Hey, daddy, but you I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: one hundred and one hundred and ninety nine dollars or
Speaker 2: two hundred and nine. Here it is, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: can we just watch this real quick. Yes, it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: We gotta watch it here.
Speaker 2: I seen you in a whole different light. There you are?
Speaker 3: You are?
Speaker 2: Is there volume?
Speaker 1: There's no volume with it now.
Speaker 2: We can't even hear what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear what he's saying. But you can
Speaker 1: watch him see the action that he's about to do.
Speaker 2: Phonsie, I never laughed so hard man. And we stumbled
Speaker 2: on it too, didn't we.
Speaker 3: We were we were watching something.
Speaker 2: It was on Twitter. I saw it on Twitter and
Speaker 2: I pointed it out to you and I said, this
Speaker 2: just happened. I said, somebody screwing with Phonsie And I
Speaker 2: don't like it.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know now that you say, I think
Speaker 3: that was a show that I was at, not the
Speaker 3: not the pool tournament thing, because.
Speaker 1: Because behind it looks like it's like a shopping center,
Speaker 1: so a pool thing might make perfect sense.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, why do I got my jacket on? I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know either. And there's there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: but there's a bunch of people, like guys that look
Speaker 2: like they they're kind of workers, like indie workers, promoter
Speaker 2: right here, this guy in the Chrysler shirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's bigger than me, right yeah, but still he's.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got his number, you're him?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And he didn't answer my clalls for like a month.
Speaker 3: I clim him every day and said, hey, you know, you're.
Speaker 2: Telling you look, you're telling everybody back up, back up.
Speaker 2: And now it's just you and him, and you're like
Speaker 2: ripping his shirt off. Look at this. I love this.
Speaker 2: I thought this was an angle for some like the
Speaker 2: show that was coming up, that you were gonna work
Speaker 2: with this guy. I literally thought this was a work.
Speaker 3: I wish I could work like that. No, that's the shoes.
Speaker 2: The best part is when you jump in the car,
Speaker 2: didn't didn't he jump in the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's trying to drive off. He's trying to get
Speaker 3: away from me. And I said, you're not leaving until
Speaker 3: you pay me, until you cleared his check.
Speaker 2: And what is he saying to you? What's his excuse?
Speaker 3: I'll get back with you. I don't have the money
Speaker 3: right now. Whatever.
Speaker 2: See, like there's so many people standing around. It led
Speaker 2: me to believe there was some kind of indie show
Speaker 2: going on. Look there you are, you're in the car.
Speaker 2: Look we're in the.
Speaker 1: Car, and there he goes he's trying to drive. You're god,
Speaker 1: it's about time one of these guys gets there.
Speaker 2: Come up.
Speaker 1: And so all the ship promoters out there.
Speaker 3: That say, no, that's in YouTube because all the shows,
Speaker 3: the forty shows I did last year, thirty eight, thirty nine,
Speaker 3: they always take care of you have never been.
Speaker 2: Stiff, right, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: So it was a whole point. That's why I was, man,
Speaker 3: oh my god.
Speaker 2: We don't have to watch the whole thing. But I
Speaker 2: just I love when you drove in the car and
Speaker 2: he just pulls off.
Speaker 1: And you'll see this guy's white ass sticking out.
Speaker 2: What's that? Oh?
Speaker 1: So you don't want to see this guy's white ass sticking.
Speaker 3: Out of his pants.
Speaker 2: Now he has no shirt on.
Speaker 3: I think I ripped it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah you probably did. Oh my god, this is just
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 3: I feel bad now a little bit.
Speaker 2: Did you ever get your money?
Speaker 3: No? I've never seen him after that night. I never
Speaker 3: tried to call him. What the fucking lesson learned?
Speaker 1: You know, breasts on him?
Speaker 2: This guy, jeez, he's trying to explain. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: telling you what's going on, but you.
Speaker 1: Don't found the new Chubby Dudley right there.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I just wanted to show the part where
Speaker 2: you're in the car because that's my favorite part of
Speaker 2: the whole video. All right, daddy, I loved it. So
Speaker 2: what do you want to talk about? Do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about how you got into business? Do you
Speaker 2: want to talk about what you're doing now? Totally up
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 3: I don't mind talking about. What I'm doing now is
Speaker 3: having fun. I've just turned sixty four last year in August.
Speaker 3: I'm in good shape. There's not an ouncer fat on me.
Speaker 2: Look at that.
Speaker 3: Anything I do is smoke a little pokolo and then
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good. I do indie shows. Yeah, conventions
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. During the week, I'm relaxing. I'll
Speaker 3: play golf. You know, never had no time off. I've
Speaker 3: been in the business forty two years, fright, you know it,
Speaker 3: and worked for all the big companies and worked full time.
Speaker 2: So you don't look at day over forty five mine.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you, look at that. He still his
Speaker 2: hair on his head.
Speaker 3: I see a lot of guys at the show. I
Speaker 3: see Shane Douglas, I see I'm with Sadman. Let's see
Speaker 3: the first Saturday, Friday and Saturday of February next, you know,
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks, okay, in South Florida. I
Speaker 3: see him quite a bit. I've talked to Todd Gordon
Speaker 3: all the time. He turned on Hello.
Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen tot in a really long time.
Speaker 3: I will, I will. I'll text him later and tell him.
Speaker 3: He's started to work. He's writing a book right now.
Speaker 3: I was in the process of writing a book.
Speaker 2: Oh special. I was just with sand Man and she
Speaker 2: we did an appearance in Nashville and yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was the three of us and we did we did
Speaker 2: a we did three appearances in two days. So we
Speaker 2: worked a virtual and then we did an in store
Speaker 2: and then we did the Tracy Smothers memorial show that
Speaker 2: they had for Tracy down there. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 2: Salmon was so funny, howpless Like, you know, if it
Speaker 2: was twenty years ago, we'd be sitting around drinking, smoking,
Speaker 2: doing drugs, blah blah blah exactly. He goes, Now we're
Speaker 2: sitting around talking about our kids in school and what
Speaker 2: we what we do over the weekend with our children.
Speaker 2: And he goes, and I love this because we sat
Speaker 2: up till maybe well at one thirty I tapped out.
Speaker 2: I was exhausted, but funny.
Speaker 3: I love him. He's one of my besties. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was with about a show not too long ago,
Speaker 3: you know, last year, and I was looking at him
Speaker 3: and looked at his face looked a little different. I said, Sam, man,
Speaker 3: are you fucking wearing makeup? He said, yeah, daddy, I said,
Speaker 3: he put it on horrible. You know, you know how
Speaker 3: you put it on perfect BEAUTI of I can see
Speaker 3: the lines and shit, I put my face. I got
Speaker 3: bumps or whatever. I said, Okay, cool, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I loved it. We had. All we did was laugh
Speaker 2: because I haven't seen him in so long, and we
Speaker 2: just sat there and we laughed our asses off and
Speaker 2: there we didn't drink there, nobody smoked, nobody did anything.
Speaker 2: We were just we ate dinner and then we just
Speaker 2: sat around and talked for hours and it was like
Speaker 2: it was so nice. It was so nice.
Speaker 3: And you know, when I see people like you or
Speaker 3: Salmon or somebody on the road at the convention or whatever,
Speaker 3: we haven't seen each other for a long time, it's
Speaker 3: like we never left each other.
Speaker 2: That's what we were saying. It was like yesterday we
Speaker 2: were in the locker room together, you know exactly. I know,
Speaker 2: I know because I miss everybody. I mean, I love
Speaker 2: my life now. But like when like we do watch
Speaker 2: alongs on the show and we pull up old matches
Speaker 2: and like a little a little part of me, I'm
Speaker 2: just like, man, if we could just go back for
Speaker 2: one weekend and just have like a nostalgic weekend with
Speaker 2: all of us together, how fun would that be?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't want to do it consecutively because obviously
Speaker 2: I want to be with my family and my.
Speaker 3: Kids, right, But look, you're involved, you do the podcast,
Speaker 3: I'll see you on the Internet on social media do
Speaker 3: different stuff of putting out tweets and all that. That's
Speaker 3: very cool. I like that stuff. I'm missing so much
Speaker 3: that we didn't do. I couldn't just stop. It's you know,
Speaker 3: it's like a drug, Nina, Yeah, China and being you know,
Speaker 3: I'm still relevant to the business, not because I was
Speaker 3: a referee and I started in nineteen eighty with Eddie
Speaker 3: Graham and Andrea the Giant and Dusty and all them.
Speaker 3: I had a great career to work for Vince and
Speaker 3: WrestleMania's and WCW, Ted Turner. Why I'm still relevant to
Speaker 3: the business and I get pops and they can sell
Speaker 3: a picture and all that is because of e CW.
Speaker 3: Not because I'm a famous referee. You know. E CW
Speaker 3: really made my care or known. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you think because one of your first one
Speaker 2: of your first gigs was roughing me and Beulah. You
Speaker 2: came in, you were the referee for our match.
Speaker 3: I was anti violand yes, I just left WWF And
Speaker 3: the gimmick was Shane Douglas brought me in because he
Speaker 3: was anti violent. My whole gimmick was Paul Haman. I
Speaker 3: get a phone call from Paul ham and I just
Speaker 3: left ww F. In fact, I was still on Monday
Speaker 3: Night raw because they would take three Monday night raws.
Speaker 3: One was live, Tuesday was for the next Monday, and
Speaker 3: Wednesday was for the following Monday. So we did three
Speaker 3: Monday night rawls in a row and only one was last.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I was on for uh well, Paul Hayman
Speaker 3: called me. He knew I got I finished there, He said,
Speaker 3: Ponte got this company called e c W. I said,
Speaker 3: what the Fuck's in e c W? Because I never
Speaker 3: worked an indie show my life, you know. He said, well,
Speaker 3: you know it was Boy Hamen. We were friends for years.
Speaker 3: He said, I got this thing. We want to bring
Speaker 3: you in as anti violin with this violent company. Bring
Speaker 3: in for four weeks in nine one one a choke
Speaker 3: SLAMI and you done think you were paying? You fly?
Speaker 3: You all that? I said, okay, boy Hayman. So when
Speaker 3: I when I came in to be the anti ECW guy,
Speaker 3: and the people wanted to kill me literally because I
Speaker 3: was taking their fucking violence away tables the taiepaid death match. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was crazy. So I ended up staying there until
Speaker 3: the company left just twenty one pay per views with you?
Speaker 3: Was there right when you were getting hot and you
Speaker 3: became a big ECW superstar.
Speaker 2: Well did you said initially it was a four week deal, right,
Speaker 2: so your four weeks is up and you're getting over
Speaker 2: like crazy. Does Paul just say okay, just just come
Speaker 2: back again, or does he offer you like an extended
Speaker 2: deal like what happened?
Speaker 3: He ended up after nine one one choked Slammy, he said.
Speaker 3: I guess he said to himself, damn Fanz got so
Speaker 3: much hed so shame to let him go. And Taz
Speaker 3: was just coming off with that neck injury and took
Speaker 3: some time off. So when Taz came back, Paul hime
Speaker 3: and put me with Taza and and that work because
Speaker 3: Taz had like ten gimmicks before he became Tazz. He
Speaker 3: was like taz Mania, monkey Boy or whatever. He didn't
Speaker 3: get over it until he became Taz and then I
Speaker 3: never managed anybody. But it was a kind of a
Speaker 3: natural progression for me because I've been around the business
Speaker 3: for a while and got looked good, and I didn't
Speaker 3: know how to do a promo really, because how many
Speaker 3: promos do referees do? Once in a while, you might
Speaker 3: say the belt, set it up or whatever. But so
Speaker 3: I was having trouble doing and Tommy Dreamer and Poim
Speaker 3: has said, just treated like a shoot. You know you're
Speaker 3: gonna be in Philadelphia on the twenty seventh, you know,
Speaker 3: so this type of mats. So they created a monster
Speaker 3: and now on one take, Fonzie.
Speaker 2: I like that. Every time we would get ready to Appromo,
Speaker 2: he'd come over, all right, Daddy, wont take here we go?
Speaker 2: You ready, let's go go doing it? One take and
Speaker 2: it was done.
Speaker 3: And it was great, even if it wasn't correct. It
Speaker 3: was just that Bonsie character.
Speaker 2: H could you got? You were so like charismatic And
Speaker 2: I would pop every time because as much as that
Speaker 2: freaking whistle got on my nerves, I learned how to
Speaker 2: like drown it out and just look at you right afterwards.
Speaker 2: I didn't even hear the whistle, right, It was just you.
Speaker 2: All I would see is you jumping up and down
Speaker 2: and do and the whistle didn't even bother me. And
Speaker 2: every time I bring your name up, everybody's like, how
Speaker 2: did you deal with that whistle? And I'm just like
Speaker 2: it kind of just you get so used to but
Speaker 2: it became like your thing it was your staple.
Speaker 3: You know, I never blew a whistle in my life
Speaker 3: until so they put me with Cat. So Paul Hamon
Speaker 3: gets me whistles. Here's your new gimmick, just blow it.
Speaker 3: So I was kind of like embarrassed to bow it.
Speaker 3: So the next week I left it at home, and
Speaker 3: so Paul Jaman says, where's your whistle? I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I forgot it at home? So did they send somebody
Speaker 3: out to get me another way? Ponsie, that's your gimmick?
Speaker 3: Then I got it? Then I got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then I got it.
Speaker 3: So now you can buy one at motel.
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 3: I shotel Joy's and buy one for twenty nine ninety five.
Speaker 2: That's great about that kind shows? You'll sign them at shows, right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you going to be doing like the Big Event
Speaker 2: or Wrestle Con or any of these shows that are
Speaker 2: coming up to New York?
Speaker 3: The other day worked for the GCW Sunday and he
Speaker 3: asked me to same question. I said, I wasn't know
Speaker 3: he's gonna hold of me yet. He says, well, I
Speaker 3: know all the people will let me have your number,
Speaker 3: and I'll call these people and see what. But I
Speaker 3: have worked that show before. I think I did that
Speaker 3: show and then Universal Wrestling Store Wrestling Universe. Yes, I
Speaker 3: did that, and a podcast from Monty and Monty or somebody. Okay,
Speaker 3: like the same weekend or whatever.
Speaker 2: So we'll be in New York. What's the date, March fifth?
Speaker 2: March fifth is the big event, right, Try to get
Speaker 2: on the big event because that's in New York. I
Speaker 2: would love to see you there. I will if I
Speaker 2: If I hear the whistle and then turn around and
Speaker 2: it's you, I will run over and jump on you
Speaker 2: and give you hugs and kisses.
Speaker 3: Because I don't going to do an event this year.
Speaker 3: I think they're doing a couple at at the ECW
Speaker 3: arena if Einstein did one not too long ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do the arena. Why because remember when
Speaker 2: I threw had my show when I was pregnant and
Speaker 2: you were own it. They stole five thousand dollars from me.
Speaker 2: They stole from the gate. Really, they stole the money,
Speaker 2: and they stole the show itself and sold it without
Speaker 2: my permission. The actual people that I can't tell, I
Speaker 2: can tell you who I don't want to say names
Speaker 2: on the air. I can tell you who it is
Speaker 2: off off the air. But I have not been back
Speaker 2: since I was pregnant and my daughter will be thirteen,
Speaker 2: and that's the last time I was in the marina.
Speaker 3: Damn, no shit, Because I was wondering why you are
Speaker 3: because I never seen Bela on the road. I never
Speaker 3: hear or doing social media or anything. But I see
Speaker 3: you on the social media. But I was wondering why
Speaker 3: you weren't at that building at the ECWRITA. I forgot
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I won't. I won't go there until that period.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work there anymore, so you know, hopefully if
Speaker 2: I don't wish death on them, but maybe they'll move
Speaker 2: to enough country or something and I can come back.
Speaker 2: I've been asked no, lie by ten different vendors and
Speaker 2: by Rob himself, like to come in, but I just
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable while that person's there.
Speaker 3: Right, you know i'd probably seen him the other day.
Speaker 2: Oh, you definitely seen him. He definitely have seen it.
Speaker 3: He runs a building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know there's somebody that's involved, and you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know it's funny, so that that's show in September school,
Speaker 1: I was with Kane that day, so I was behind
Speaker 1: the table looking at the madness, and I said to Rob,
Speaker 1: I said, you realize the line is going right in
Speaker 1: front of the table that you were at and Samon
Speaker 1: was at. And He's like, yeah, that's the only place
Speaker 1: we can put him. But I was like that such
Speaker 1: horrible placement because the line literally was right in front
Speaker 1: of where you guys were standing and I was in
Speaker 1: there was a little annoyed about it right.
Speaker 3: Well, which was okay because he was there for just
Speaker 3: an hour or two and we were there all day,
Speaker 3: so it worked out we were the main We were
Speaker 3: the main event until he got there, and then when
Speaker 3: he got there, But the people that came to see
Speaker 3: him came to see him, didn't come to Fonzie and Sandman.
Speaker 3: They came to see him.
Speaker 2: It's it's like the it's the w w F crowd exactly.
Speaker 3: Where it was. But all the E CW people who
Speaker 3: came to the arena for the nostalgia and see all
Speaker 3: the old guys like Means and uh PANDAMN and all that,
Speaker 3: we had no problem. We ended up making good money
Speaker 3: for everybody, everybody in the day. But it was why
Speaker 3: Benson Kane is because he had that long fucking line
Speaker 3: for two hours.
Speaker 1: It was like you couldn't even see it kept just
Speaker 1: going on and on and on, and but then Rob
Speaker 1: was right next to him too, so then Rob's was
Speaker 1: like in it was just a sea of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was right next to Robin Katie right right.
Speaker 2: Well, where where is your next appearance? Like the very
Speaker 2: next one.
Speaker 3: My next appearance was Sandman January February fifth and six
Speaker 3: or sixth and seventh. Is that Friday? The first Friday
Speaker 3: and Saturday in Miami.
Speaker 2: In Orlando? Yeah, I'll be at the park, damn it. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: and then who's that for?
Speaker 3: That's for Gangarell's group.
Speaker 2: Okay, CCW Okay.
Speaker 3: They run all over the state of Florida now and
Speaker 3: they always have two or three shows a month.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, I hope you and I are together somewhere.
Speaker 2: I hope all of.
Speaker 3: Us we will at a convention, I hope.
Speaker 2: So, I hope. So try to get on if you
Speaker 2: can the Big event or Wrestle Khan in Dallas, WrestleMania Weekend.
Speaker 2: That's a huge convention. Try to get on that one.
Speaker 3: I didn't last year WrestleMania conventions they had a couple
Speaker 3: because it was in Tampa, so it was easy for
Speaker 3: the promoters. They have me there, no trains hotel, right,
Speaker 3: but uh yeah, let's see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get together. I keep telling everybody,
Speaker 2: like you know, a fran scene or a Fonsie is
Speaker 2: a drawl, but all of us together is like the
Speaker 2: main event, and that's what people want to see. They
Speaker 2: want to see a group of us together.
Speaker 3: So right, so when they add me onto a show,
Speaker 3: I'm a good add on and people will love to
Speaker 3: see me. But I don't have that big drawing power.
Speaker 3: But if all of us got together one day, sand Man, everybody,
Speaker 3: uh Sabu would be very cool.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Well, I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: figure stuff out and work on stuff, and I will
Speaker 2: definitely keep in touch with you and hopefully we run
Speaker 2: into each other because it's been a long time since
Speaker 2: I've seen you in person. Yes, I don't even remember
Speaker 2: when the last time we saw each other was.
Speaker 3: I can't remember either, But I see you every day
Speaker 3: when I come to my office.
Speaker 2: Well that was.
Speaker 3: When I see something that you post on social media.
Speaker 3: If I see you, know, send you FONZI love you.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know it's so cute, but you just have
Speaker 2: to remember that was before kids. I'm a little larger
Speaker 2: than I.
Speaker 3: Was before you still great, beautiful girl.
Speaker 2: I love you FANSI thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: And yeah tell Todd I said hello, and Hackey and
Speaker 2: I want to see you somewhere, so we'll work on that.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely well.
Speaker 2: And if people follow you on social media, where can
Speaker 2: they find you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah on Twitter at Alfonso Bill or Bill
Speaker 3: Fonzie Alfonso on everything else Facebook and Instagram. And if
Speaker 3: you guys are interested in anything, I have tons of
Speaker 3: a X ten from nineteen eighty of me and Andrea
Speaker 3: Giant and me and Ben Damn Zebu to me and
Speaker 3: Haul Kobean, so a lot of cool pictures. Yeah, anybody's interested,
Speaker 3: or a whistle or whatever, or just stay hello or
Speaker 3: kiss my ass or whatever.
Speaker 2: I love well, you look wonderful and I love just
Speaker 2: talking with you. And we'll do it again in the
Speaker 2: future alutely.
Speaker 3: If you ever get somebody who drops out on you
Speaker 3: and you need to fill in, call I will.
Speaker 2: I will. Thank you so much. I love you, take
Speaker 2: care of yourself and hope to see you soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Executive producer, also got it. Thank you, Thank
Speaker 3: you so much.
Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you fansie.
Speaker 2: We love I love youll Hi buddy, so cute.
Speaker 1: There you go, daddy you just oh.
Speaker 2: I love him, I love him. I'm so happy he's
Speaker 2: doing well.
Speaker 1: They were like right to the side of us, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I said to Rob, I'm like, why
Speaker 1: is the line intersecting where they are? You can't get
Speaker 1: to them? And he was like, oh, that's the only
Speaker 1: place we can put them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not good. But like he said, uh,
Speaker 2: they were there all day and you guys were there
Speaker 2: for a couple of hours, so if anybody wanted to
Speaker 2: get to them, they would.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, and I think going as a talent
Speaker 2: to be blocked.
Speaker 1: He was like twenty feet away from me at one
Speaker 1: point and I saw him like saying and he was
Speaker 1: looking at the line, and I honestly it was like
Speaker 1: subconsciously where I was like.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, yeah, but now he's great. I had
Speaker 2: no idea yet. That picture of us on his wall.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: What a shot.
Speaker 3: I love