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Speaker 1: This episode deals with the topics of depression and suicide.

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Speaker 1: If you are someone you know is suffering, please call

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Speaker 1: the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by dialing nine to eight eight.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you don't know me, all about that

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Speaker 2: high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them.

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Speaker 1: Jaylie's my girl of girl fashion, but your tough girl,

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Speaker 1: you could sit with.

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Speaker 3: Us Girl Drama, Queen Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, John

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Speaker 3: mc Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 2: Today, we're discussing season seven, episode eleven, You Know I

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Speaker 2: Love You, Don't You? Air date was November thirtieth, two

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Speaker 2: thousand and nine. Snapsis Goes. Nathan and Haley's careers bring

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Speaker 2: about a tough decision for the family, and Julian divulge

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Speaker 2: is a secret to Alex that Big Time violates Brooks

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Speaker 2: trust appropriately so by the way. Meanwhile, Clay tries to

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Speaker 2: resuscitate his career as an age Jamie learns the truth

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Speaker 2: about skills, new job, and a fresh from jail, Millie

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Speaker 2: finds an unlikely supporter in Victoria. This one was directed

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Speaker 2: by our friend Greg Braine and written by William Brown.

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Speaker 1: Oh no what so?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Well, first of all, I was about

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Speaker 4: to be like I love that you added big time.

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Speaker 5: I was like, hah, that's so appropriate.

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Speaker 4: And I just realized I wasn't with you guys last

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Speaker 4: week and.

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Speaker 5: I watched ten and not a leon.

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Speaker 2: Oh how funny. That's okay.

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Speaker 5: I was like, Jamie find out first from jail. I

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Speaker 5: was like, no, she just got arrested.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can be one of the viewers at home

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Speaker 1: who did not watch the episode before they listened to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, and we can talk through.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did this with Joy and it was a blast.

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Speaker 4: I do remember a lot of this episode, and now

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Speaker 4: Joy your text from this morning makes a lot more sense.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well gosh, I have to say, I think

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Speaker 1: we have arrived at the worst episode of one treal

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Speaker 1: maybe at least at least my least favorite. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to say it. And listen, folks, you know us.

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Speaker 1: We are going to find the silver lining. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about things that we loved. But I hated

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Speaker 1: this episode. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you Before you go any further

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Speaker 2: with that, do you hate it because it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: good episode of television or do you hate it because

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Speaker 2: of the content both? Okay, say more so.

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Speaker 1: Aside from the fact that we hit a really heavy

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Speaker 1: level of misogyny and harmful stereotypes in this episode, it

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Speaker 1: was I'm sorry to the people that I love, I

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Speaker 1: think it was a badly written, badly directed episode of television.

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Speaker 1: The actors were totally hung out to dry in this episode.

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Speaker 1: We had and who knows, Look, everybody has a I've

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Speaker 1: had plenty of episodes where I was phoning it in,

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Speaker 1: and I think the director phoned it in. I think

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Speaker 1: the writer phoned it in. Who knows what else was

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Speaker 1: going on in their own lives and their personal lives,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's bound to happen when you're shooting.

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Speaker 1: How many episodes did we do? Two hundred something at.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four, twenty two or twenty four, but like.

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Speaker 1: Over ten years, I mean, we just so many episodes

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Speaker 1: of Yeah, everybody's gonna have a bad day. It all

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Speaker 1: just seemed to be the perfect storm on this one.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of dead air, awkward moments. Every

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Speaker 1: scene felt like there was no blocking, no thought put

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Speaker 1: The scenery was boring, there was no activity. It was like,

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Speaker 1: them while they have this awkward emotional conversation and everything

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Speaker 1: just felt really placed. I don't know, I do know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I don't know. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to stop that habit. I have that bad habit of

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Speaker 1: doing that. But anyway, I was not happy.

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Speaker 4: And You're like, why am I saying I don't know

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Speaker 4: the answer when I'm actually smart, and I did. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I have a question because as you started to say that,

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Speaker 4: if we're eleven episodes in, it's before the holiday break,

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Speaker 4: so you're hitting that point everyone comes back to work

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Speaker 4: like fresh faced, like bunny tailed or whatever how whatever

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Speaker 4: bummer to see exhaustion and action on camera as a viewer,

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Speaker 4: I would like to ask a question as the person

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Speaker 4: who clearly forgot what episode we were on this week

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Speaker 4: and watched last week's, which is great for me. I

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Speaker 4: but the extreme move for Alex to say I love

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Speaker 4: you to Julian in a text message and then break

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Speaker 4: her sobriety over this boy that she doesn't really know

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Speaker 4: that well, and I get what it's like. She's finally

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Speaker 4: and not an object. We all obviously were begging for

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Speaker 4: that on our show with our own boss, you know.

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Speaker 4: But I had this sort of breathtaking moment where Alex

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Speaker 4: and I think, oh, maybe she knew Milly was coming

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Speaker 4: and she's ordering the shots for her, and then she

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Speaker 4: takes not one, not two, but three, And I wrote down,

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Speaker 4: I said, am I being too cranky or or were

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Speaker 4: we just indicating all the time that women should throw

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Speaker 4: their lives away for men and we never said it

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Speaker 5: And then I was like, maybe I'm I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, maybe I'm in like an emotional moment, But

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Speaker 4: is there more of the same in this episode, like

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Speaker 4: just more terrible writing off of women?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, this I found. I had a big issue with,

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Speaker 2: like the alex of it all throughout this whole episode.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I had a bit of an emotional roller coaster.

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Speaker 2: I generally my third note is I stand brilliant. You know,

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Speaker 2: it opens with this with sweet Disposition playing in the background.

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Speaker 2: You guys have this sweet scene in the kitchen, and

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Speaker 2: I realized, like I really am rooting for these two.

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Speaker 2: This is awesome. And then Julian just captain Ignora red Flag.

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Speaker 2: He divulges to Alex. So, first of all, I didn't

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Speaker 4: That's horrible, especially think about the fact that this was

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Speaker 2: Yes, like people.

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Speaker 4: Talk about this stuff today in twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 1: And imagine it wasn't even a secret that he'd been

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Speaker 2: Yes, And then I realized after the fact, I thought,

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Speaker 2: this dummy needs to go to therapy and learn about

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Speaker 2: boundaries because the fact that he didn't set a boundary

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Speaker 2: after she text I love you like for again, seriously

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Speaker 2: her no, his girlfriend is her boss. Then she sends

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Speaker 2: a text, I love you. Mind you. Every business interaction

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Speaker 2: there's also flirting one way flirting happening, yes, but at

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Speaker 2: a certain point you are party to it. If you're

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Speaker 2: that like he didn't check it, he didn't set a

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Speaker 2: least she texts I love you and he's just like,

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Speaker 4: Yes, to say I did a really bad thing. I

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Speaker 4: I blurted it out and I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing, the blurting it out. And this

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Speaker 1: the staging that was handed to us. But if that

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Speaker 1: dealing with this. I'm dealing with this. My girlfriend can't

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Speaker 1: And then now Alex has the information that need her

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Speaker 1: to have to continue on with the rest of the episode.

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Speaker 1: But they did Julian no favors. They did the audience

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Speaker 1: and loving them. And as an actor, you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: this is what's on the page, Like what else am

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Speaker 4: Exactly because you have to do it, you have to

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Speaker 4: shoot the scenes. Yeah, and you know, let's be honest,

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Speaker 4: there have been so many times when we've all gone

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Speaker 4: to bat for our characters and it's a really tricky

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Speaker 4: because there are it's weird. This is one of those

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Speaker 4: was yesterday. So many of us were like, what is

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Speaker 4: this script? Yes that that I know we were met

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Speaker 4: with a God, you guys are just all being so difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's want to.

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Speaker 5: Sit there and say we're not We're not.

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Speaker 4: Actually, we're just saying none of these things feel thought through.

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Speaker 4: It's like we got a first draft and we're supposed

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Speaker 4: to be on a dissertation and one of these is

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Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, And so it's like I said, I

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Speaker 2: it really took the wind out of my brilliant sales

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Speaker 2: and just made me more of a just like a

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Speaker 2: Brook fan because it just unfortunately a I see some

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Speaker 2: of myself and that behavior because I came very late

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Speaker 2: to the boundaries game and learning how to protect my

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Speaker 2: relationships and to prioritize them, prioritize them. Excuse me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like after the first time, Brooke already says she's

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable with this dynamic, and she has and Alex has

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Speaker 2: been so out of pocket that right there is the

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Speaker 2: moment where you need to sort of reassess the situation

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Speaker 2: and start like protect the castle, like your relationship is

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Speaker 2: the priority. So if anything overcompensate and instead he's kind

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Speaker 2: of like there's a difference between being like a ho hum,

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Speaker 2: nice guy people pleaser and when that goes too far

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Speaker 2: and is actually harming your relationship.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and okay, so I love that you're saying this,

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Speaker 4: particularly because you're giving this insight as a man, Rob

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Speaker 5: By RTV show for ten years?

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Speaker 4: Do I owe all those therapy bills back to our writers?

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Speaker 2: I also found and I've been sort of flagging this

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Speaker 2: And I just I think it does a disservice to

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Speaker 1: Here's another one. But they lose their credibility as characters

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine how incredible it would have been if

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Speaker 4: Oh I would love That's what we needed.

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Speaker 2: It would have been incredibly interesting. But no, it's more

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Speaker 2: that clearly is not about the character of Milly at all.

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Speaker 4: That that nosebleed just starts and he's just watching and

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Speaker 4: my friend at the door, this character that I love

435
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: as a viewer and go, I'm just going to watch

436
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: least actor face off in these scenes I have no

437
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: idea who this character is, but god, I'm loving it.

438
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: And it's a weird thing when you have to do that,

439
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: especially when you have actors that are so talented that

440
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: they could have they could have done the storyline across

441
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: a season and it could have really developed Clay and

442
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 4: Quinn really, you know, beginning to have this addictive problem,

443
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 4: like it could have been given the breath it needed

444
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: and it just wasn't. And when when you jump too

445
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: fast into it, it feels like a shock.

446
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and an addiction can be an incredibly compelling story,

447
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: just not when you do this sped up rod strokes

448
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: after School's version, after school special version, It's just like, oh,

449
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: we've seen this on Saved by the Bell and a

450
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: bajillion other shows, you know.

451
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: I think, thank god Lisa is such a good actor,

452
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: because at least in those moments, I can watch it

453
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: and I feel for exactly what you're saying. So I

454
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: don't know who this character is, but I am feeling

455
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: for this woman that I'm watching on screen, and I

456
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: appreciate empathizing with her journey for a moment. But yeah,

457
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: I agree, like, when's it over?

458
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: Please?

459
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: I remember when I went to see Green Lantern in

460
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: the movie theater. I don't even know if I was.

461
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: I think i'd maybe just started acting. But I remember

462
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: even then watching it, and I'm thinking about halfway through

463
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: and I'm a comic book nerd. I'm so excited, and

464
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: even then halfway through, ever going, I'm watching two very

465
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: good actors do their best with a terrible script. And

466
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of how I feel lately with Lisa and

467
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: with Jana. Alex to me is just like she's the

468
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: worst in this episode. I don't know, like I just

469
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: I can't stand her. But yet, like you said, though,

470
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: so I can watch it and go. But Jana's crushing

471
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: like she she's bringing emotional weight to some really crappy dialogue,

472
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: Like there's no there's no subtlety to it. It is

473
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 2: Peak and Valley, and it's hysterical and manic, and it culminates,

474
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: and it culminates with a scene in which she calls Julian,

475
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: confesses her love, thanks him, then proceeds to hang up

476
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: yeah and try to unlive herself in a bathtub. So

477
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: awful and enjoy. I have a question for you, because

478
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: I did I head this moment, and maybe it's like

479
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: getting too close in nitpicking, But why is she in

480
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: her bron underwear? Why did she if she's she's about

481
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: to end her life, we see clothes right next to

482
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: the bathtub. If you're really trying to end your life,

483
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: why are you taking off your T shirt and jeans?

484
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and you're not nitpicking. It's this is

485
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: one of the most infuriating moments of the episode to me,

486
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: was creating suicide porn basically out of this moment, Like

487
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: they wanted a beautiful shot of a beautiful girl with

488
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: a beautiful body in beautiful underwear and blood draining from

489
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: her wrists, and it was an overhead shot and it

490
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: was supposed to be glamorous, And yes, I am so

491
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: angry about this.

492
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: Can I add to that anger because I'm still angry

493
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: about this, And it's almost been twenty years. Using a

494
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: suicide attempt as a cliffhanger on television, to use this

495
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: as drama as musty TV, as tune in next week

496
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: to find out what happens. It makes me sick to

497
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 4: my stomach.

498
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know what to do, Like a

499
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm hot, Like I'm angry. When I saw that shot,

500
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I was like, wh what are we doing? What is

501
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: the purpose of this? The reason she had to be

502
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: in her underwear was because they wanted the overhead shot, yeah,

503
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: or Network TV. They couldn't do it without her underwear on,

504
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: so they put her in this really beautiful, vintagey looking

505
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: set of underwear. And it could have been like it

506
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: literally could have been her arm like dropping into frame

507
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: by the bathroom floor and you see a little bit

508
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: of blood and you cut away and you know what's

509
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: going on. They could have done that if they I mean,

510
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other things they could have done too.

511
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying we shouldn't be telling these stories

512
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: on TV. I just it's the fact that they used

513
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: it to try and make it sexy somehow. That is

514
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: it's unconscionable to me.

515
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that it's always women that are put in

516
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: the position to do it, and that when you bring

517
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 4: it up, they tell you, well, this is the way

518
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: it has to be. There's no reason she couldn't have

519
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: been wrapped in a hotel towel, dude, Yes, in the bathtub. Yeah,

520
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: a white towel in the bathtub.

521
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: There's no reason jeans in a T shirt to the tub,

522
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: meaning she chose to take off her pants and her

523
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: T shirt, which we're not going to be in the

524
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: way of her business. She chose to take those off

525
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: before the call. Like what it's It's just it's so dumb,

526
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: and it's such a disservice to it. Like I remember

527
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: one time on a different show, I was I was

528
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: supposed to be like about to die, and I was

529
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: supposed to be saying goodbye to my best friends, and

530
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: and they wanted me shirtless, sitting up right in the

531
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: bed shirtless, and I went, I went, I went to

532
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: bat on it, and I said, you're completely undermining everything

533
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: that's happening in this scene. It's gonna become a beauty pageant.

534
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: If this is about me and a shirtless in bed,

535
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: you gotta figure it out. I don't care. But put

536
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: me in a T shirt, put me under the sheets.

537
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: But we're not doing the shirtless, you know. And because

538
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: it's sort of the same thing where like, yeah, you

539
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: completely take the focus off what's important. It becomes, like

540
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: you said, it sort of glamorizes it or sexualize it.

541
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, because then how many of these girls

542
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: at home who are in a position of desperation in

543
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: their life, and they it's like, well, at least I

544
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: could go glamorously. Look at look at that. Look how

545
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: beautiful that looks. It's so artistic. Yeah, I mean that's

546
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: Marilyn took pills and laid in her bed and it

547
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: was like silk sheets, and like, if I'm going to go,

548
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: at least I'll go glamorously. Like it's not it's not glamorous.

549
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: And the willingness to put that message out there for

550
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: young women, for anyone.

551
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: It's so irresponsible. Yeah, no, I can see exactly what

552
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: you're doing. It's so irresponsible.

553
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't know. Yeah, listen, it's a teenage

554
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: soap opera, you know, like I know, we want the

555
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: best from it. But it was also at a time

556
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: period it was just like, you know, I'm not making

557
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: an excuse for I'm just saying I think this is

558
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: why it was okay for them. You know, it's because

559
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: it's like, this isn't educational programming, This is candy. This

560
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: is for consumption. Yeah, not that it can't be that

561
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: and disappointing, you know, you can still want better for it.

562
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much disappointment.

563
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: I think part of the reason it can be that

564
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 4: and be disappointing is because we've seen that it can

565
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: be that and be really important or impactful, and so

566
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: it's really hard when it goes in the other direction

567
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: of possibility. To go from potential to let down is

568
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: very it's hard, and I think it's also hard from

569
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: you know, this time period that we're in. We've had

570
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: so many conversations and in so many ways, this generation

571
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: has you know, blown the lid off of so much

572
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: inequity and mistreatment, and like what really happens when terrible

573
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: systems take advantage of fifty one percent of the population

574
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: and it's not really changed that much, Like the conversation happens,

575
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: everyone says, we've got to do something about it, and

576
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 4: then it's a lot of more of the same. And

577
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: I think it can be really hard for all the

578
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: winds to see all this like backsliding, you know, all

579
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: it's like what are we what are we doing? There's

580
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: so much there's so much harm done to people that

581
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: it's really hard to feel like you have a platform

582
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: where you could have done something good and you did

583
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: more harm, Like isn't there enough of that in the

584
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: world That I think is tough, and I get what

585
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: you're saying, Candy soab Obra, Yes.

586
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: But h yeah, it's kind of I think one of

587
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: the reasons why I have such an issue with the

588
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Mildaise party Girl storyline, like when when you portray addicts

589
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: and alcoholics, like in the same stereotypical way, you do

590
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: such a disservice to so many people who are struggling

591
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: because that becomes the perception of it, and it's like

592
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: that is not the majority of people's stories, you know

593
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's sort of not only is

594
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: it tired and boring and uncreative, it's also harmful a

595
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: little bit, you know.

596
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, One thing I think in the emotional realm

597
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: of this topic that they did a nice job with

598
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: was hiring Rene Vincent to play Jimmy Edward's mom to

599
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: come in and you know, you talked about the slap

600
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: and that was a really powerful moment for Dan and

601
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: I appreciated that they really went for it as actors too.

602
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: But I did really love and I have a little

603
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: list of wins for the episode because I didn't want

604
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: to be a big Debbie downer, but I did love

605
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: that this woman came in this actress who I'd never

606
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: seen before. I don't know if she's local. I don't

607
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: know if she's New York. I don't know where she

608
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: came from. But she walked in as Jimmy's mom. What

609
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: we saw her actually in the episode the season when

610
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: he passed away and they brought her back. Sorry, I'm

611
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: a bit jumbled because my adrenaline was really high on

612
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: that to bring myself down, but I appreciate that she was.

613
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: She was so honest and raw and getting in Dan's

614
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: face and being willing to tell him yeah, exactly, showing

615
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: that mirror to him, this is who you are, this

616
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: is what you've done. I will not forgive you. I

617
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: will not allow you to walk through this and think

618
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter and that what you've done is

619
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: you can continue to capitalize on it. It was such

620
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: an amazing moment. I really loved that.

621
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Yes, as to come in as a guest star and

622
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: have to take up that much space and sort of

623
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: command of a scene with the series regular is not

624
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: an easy thing to do, but a I think Paul's

625
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: a great scene partner for that, because he is the

626
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: type of scene partner to tell you to take up

627
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: space to let him have it, you know, but she delivered.

628
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: She was she was fantastic. I also have some wins too,

629
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean some lighter stuff. I thought, Yeah, I loved

630
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: that Jamie is just over in the middle of the

631
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: day at skills in Mouth's place, just hanging out even

632
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: though he's whatever he is eight, I don't know. I

633
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: just love that he was like one of the guys.

634
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: He just happened to be sitting on the couch and

635
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this is it was like cheers, Like

636
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Jamie was just there to hang out to check in.

637
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: I thought that was so sweet. Yeah, their dynamics great.

638
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: I loved.

639
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's always a winning Yeah.

640
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: I love. I loved that Nathan's agents flew in from wherever,

641
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: whatever big city they're based out of. He's like, Haley,

642
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: the team is flying and they got me an offer.

643
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there going like, oh, okay, cause I

644
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: don't I know how this story ends, but I don't

645
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: remember the whole ride. And they show up to basically

646
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: be like, hey guy, great news, we got you at

647
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: duhit offer in Europe, Like you guys couldn't have scheduled

648
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: a conference call for this, really disappointing news.

649
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when was the last time any of you

650
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: had a business meeting in your house where someone stood

651
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: up and presented to you. Like there wasn't a PowerPoint

652
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: or anything. They were just formally standing in the living room.

653
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. It was lazy.

654
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: There's the randomly assisted that. Yeah, so that I thought

655
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: that was stupid and hilarious. It was funny. Yeah, it

656
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: was great that the episode needed some stupidity.

657
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: But I liked Look. I liked Clay speaking of the agents.

658
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: I liked Clay going out to the country. I liked

659
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: the breath of fresh air that I got watching the

660
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: countryside go buy in his car, watching him have alone

661
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: time and process through all this stuff, watching him communicate

662
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: with this player that he was that he was trying

663
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: to recruit, And I don't know why he gave up

664
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: so easily, but maybe you can enlighten us.

665
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: You know. That was another one where the script is

666
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: the script. Yeah, you know, at the end of the day,

667
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: you're limited to what the words on the page are.

668
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: But I did love Wait can you refresh sof because

669
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: do you or I don't know if you remember the scene.

670
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: When Quinn is like, what are you going to do?

671
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: So I'm Clay's dressed in a suit and he's obviously

672
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: getting ready for something, and he basically says, you know,

673
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: the agency didn't get all of my clients. And she's like,

674
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: who did they not get? And he's like, I had

675
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: this kid football prospect who's going to be the best

676
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL in four years. I remember this, Yeah,

677
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: And I drive out to the kid's house and I

678
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: have this really like it's a cute, funny pep talk,

679
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: like Clay like ams himself up in the car the kid.

680
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: By the way, that actor was great, perfect casting for

681
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: like the all American country boy who is going to

682
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: be a quarterback. But he finds out the agency had

683
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: already called and said, hey, that guy's fired, and Clay

684
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: it's it's Clay does give up a bit easy. I

685
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: wanted to see Clay fight more. I think they're just

686
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: waiting for the build when Clay like rises like a

687
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: phoenix from the ashes.

688
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 5: Like, where was this Jerry Maguire moment?

689
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: I was hoping it was his Jerry Maguire moment. The

690
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: one thing I did appreciate, though, was that maybe in

691
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: that moment, Clay didn't have the confidence in himself. I

692
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: appreciate that he was honest with the kid rather than

693
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: just going because the kid goes, what would you do

694
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: or if you were in my spot? And so maybe

695
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: he was having a moment of just like brutal honesty

696
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: and he wasn't feeling high himself. But the thing I

697
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: will say to his character, it was this great moment

698
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: to see his character because he said, who did they

699
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: pair you with? And he says an agent's name, and

700
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Clay takes a beat and goes, Nah, you should go

701
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: with so and so. It's a better fit. So it

702
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: was a really cool moment of showing Clay's character and

703
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: integrity that he wasn't trying to hard sell a kid

704
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: out of desperation. Steady was saying, Okay, I'm not your guy,

705
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: here's who you should actually be with, best of luck.

706
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he gave up, you know, quote unquote

707
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: so easily, but maybe subconsciously he was like, I I

708
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be selling this kid on me for sure,

709
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: if while I'm still feeling a little insecure, I don't

710
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: want to do this out of trying to make myself

711
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: feel better.

712
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean less than forty eight hours ago he

713
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: got fired by his good friend for dropping the ball

714
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: on his career.

715
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like he recognized, I'm not going to

716
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: gamble with this kid's career because I need a personal win.

717
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Like that was pretty cool. And then he goes to

718
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: the largest grave ever with no date, no words other

719
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: than Sarah's name, and that is strange.

720
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm strange. That's not the last we're going to see

721
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: that giant, oversized gravestone. But yes, it is like a

722
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: Texas size tombstone. And it didn't He must have been

723
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: paying by the letter and he was broke that day

724
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: because it's just her name, not even dates, not even

725
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: a sentence.

726
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: It.

727
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, I was hoping this was, Like I said,

728
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: all I remember is how this story ends. I just

729
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: remember this scene where I come back to your house

730
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: and I give a little speech, and I was hoping

731
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: that I was going to come in this episode. What

732
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: it has is that it's cool keep playing the fire.

733
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: The one lighter highlight of the episode was at least

734
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: getting to watch Jamie and Chuck recreate White Men Can't

735
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: Jump on River Court.

736
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: It was really fun.

737
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: Quote of the episode for me was when Jamie and

738
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: Chuck walk out in wardrobe and Skill says, already you

739
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: know the first play right, and Jamie says to him

740
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: totally just with nothing on it, just very confidently, a

741
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: matter of fact, just get out of my eye line

742
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: and someone call action. I like, that's great, ye.

743
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: Incredible, incredible.

744
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: Also I liked the scene with Nathan and Dan at

745
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: the door when Dan shows up at Nathan and Haley's house.

746
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why he showed up there. Who knows

747
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: why Dan's always showing up random places.

748
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 4: He just keeps showing up.

749
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: He always shows up. But I was not nice to

750
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: see the two of them drop in again and have

751
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: a you know, it's not a conversation we haven't heard before.

752
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: But I always appreciate hearing Nathan stand up for himself

753
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: with his dad because we went through so many years

754
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: where he kept giving him chance after chance after chance.

755
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: So that was nice to say see him say, look,

756
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: it's you came back to Tree Hill, but I got

757
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: nothing for you. So whatever you're going to do, you did.

758
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: You guys had a lot of you had You had

759
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: a lot of good scenes of this episode. Joy. I

760
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: thought your stuff with Chantel when when Haley and Quinn

761
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: were in the car together and you guys pos the

762
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: fight to have some real talk. I bought it. I

763
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: liked it all. I thought, I really liked the conflict

764
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: or potential conflict of both of your careers wanting wanting

765
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: different things at the same time. You wanted to go

766
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: out on tour and him potentially needing to go to

767
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: Europe to stay relevant and in the mix. And I

768
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: thought that was so relatable, so real. Maybe not the careers,

769
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: the careers quite as relatable, but that conflict though, of

770
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: like whose dream gets precedents?

771
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you make those decisions as a family?

772
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I loved that His solution was you come

773
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: into the kitchen and he had planned a whole tour

774
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: for you with places of interest to stop and eat

775
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: and things to check out, and so yeah, it was

776
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: to me. I wrote the note of like that is

777
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: that is top notch husbanding. That's some that's some teammate stuff.

778
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: Great.

779
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great partner right there. Like I'm going

780
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: to miss you, but I know where you're going to

781
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: be and it's going to be fun and it's going

782
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: to be yeah for a short amount of time, you know,

783
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: but like, I have your back and we're going to

784
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: make this work. He you know, he found solutions as

785
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: opposed to just living in the problem. You know.

786
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think there's something to that as well,

787
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 4: like the because to your point, Rob, the careers are

788
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: not relatable. Being a touring rock star and an NBA

789
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: player are not relatable for you know, most of the world.

790
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: But the reality of how does everyone get what they want?

791
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 4: You know, each spouse and the family, because the family

792
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: is its own unit, right, and so many relationships you'll

793
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: see when we've done the dynamics where one person has

794
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: to put their whole life on the back burner for

795
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: the other. And how long does that go on? How

796
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: long does someone ignore your needs before you are living

797
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: in your house with a stranger, Like, we know what

798
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 4: it can do for someone to go unconsidered for long

799
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 4: periods of time in their home, and it's really refreshing.

800
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: Rather than not that those stories aren't interesting, I think

801
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: there are things we can all relate to, but it

802
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: was it's such a refreshing thing to instead of going into, oh,

803
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: this is what's kind of launched another conflict, immediately deciding

804
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: to present a solution and in presenting a solution, show

805
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: your partner how much you care about it.

806
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: And it was perfect because she had just shown up

807
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: for him in a really big way with this last

808
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: controversy that happened, So it was the perfect opportunity for

809
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: him to show up for her, like it's it's a

810
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: great way of being like by the way I see

811
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: you like you got me, I got yeah.

812
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

813
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: And it wasn't It wasn't from any sort of place

814
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: of martyrdom. It was an active showing up. I think

815
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: the fact that he actually mapped out that whole plan

816
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: and got excited about it. It wasn't just like, Okay,

817
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I'll sacrifice what I need to for you, I'm willing to. No,

818
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: he was active about it. He made it fun for himself.

819
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: It was a participatory experience and I loved that.

820
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: And in creating that this this plan for you guys,

821
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: it allows him to be a part of it. He

822
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: gets to be a participant as opposed to just like, well,

823
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: my wife's off doing this thing, you know, like he's

824
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: he's a part of it with you guys. And another

825
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: thing I liked about that conversation was I think you say, like, nah,

826
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: you got to do Spain, and he makes a point

827
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: of saying, no, I think it's like a couple of

828
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: years ago. I think if he cites an event or

829
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: if he just says a couple of years ago. I

830
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: remember you talked king about how much you wanted to

831
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: go back on tour. And I love that, Like he

832
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: listened and he made a note, this is important to

833
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: my wife. I'm going to files away.

834
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: Yes. And by the way, that's exactly the sort of

835
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: thing they could have given to Quinn.

836
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: Well you know when I.

837
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: And it just gives you something because with our time jump,

838
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, to hear Nathan referring to the time essentially

839
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: between the end of season four and the beginning of

840
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: season five, right like those years we didn't get to

841
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: see that simple sentence. I remember a couple of years

842
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: ago you said it fills in the blanks for the viewers.

843
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: And those things are they really? I mean, you just

844
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: illustrated it perfectly. Why they go so far?

845
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we just about covered that whole episode.

846
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what to listen say.

847
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: I think we should all just commit to not being

848
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: misogynists and to no lazy writing. That's the bumper sticker.

849
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: No lazy writing.

850
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh, lazy writing, I really have. I'm really hoping the

851
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: next episode is a good turn about and this was

852
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: just a bad moment in time that everybody was going

853
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: through something crazy in their life and just could not show.

854
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: Up to work except the actors. Oh my goodness.

855
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: Okay, we have a listener question. Friends. Let's we're going

856
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: to get out of this episode and never return.

857
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: Never to come back.

858
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: You picked a good one to not watch, So, by

859
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: the way, just skip right on to twelve for Nes.

860
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: Honestly, by the way, there was a lot, I mean,

861
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: things that bugged me in ten, but there was a

862
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: lot that I really liked. Am my honorable mention in

863
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: seven ten, not that anyone asks, is Taffany admitting that

864
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 4: she she had three martinis. She wasn't on drugs, but

865
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: she was definitely buzzed.

866
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Leaning on all of the uh on all of the

867
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: clothing racks as she was walking.

868
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 4: Incredible.

869
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: Also that scene between her and Grubs.

870
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we went in on that one because that was.

871
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 4: I'm looking for a lover and you've made the less incredible.

872
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: Cameraon is asking us what's an unexpected skill or knowledge

873
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: that you've gained from working on the show that you

874
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: didn't anticipate needing, but now you find it valuable in

875
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: your everyday life. Great question.

876
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: That is a great question I have. Okay, so I

877
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: have two answers. One of them is more serious and

878
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: one of them is more fun. The serious one would be, uh,

879
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: I discovered therapy while I was on the show, and

880
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: that has been tremendously helpful for me in my life,

881
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: and I still I still go to therapy. So I

882
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: would say that discovering therapy that's not directly related to

883
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: one Hill, but was really helpful. And I went into

884
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: the show never having done it, didn't know anything about it,

885
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: and then you know, I found it. Was like, oh yeah,

886
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: I could use a lot of this. The the funny

887
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: thing that I took from this show, I will never

888
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: forget this for as long as I live. One day,

889
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: we were on set and we're doing a scene. I'm

890
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: usually pretty good with my lines. I I you know,

891
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm off book, I'm good, but I went up on

892
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: a line and so Mike le owner, a script's revisor,

893
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 2: I go, what's what's that line like? And he gives

894
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: he gives me the line blaha la la. I go,

895
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: all right, thanks, and he goes, it's a good script.

896
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: You should read it. I think every single job I've

897
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: done since Wantree Hill, at one time or another, when

898
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: I want to bust someone's balls, I dropped that line

899
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: on him. It's a good script. You should read it.

900
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: That's so funny.

901
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: It was one of the best burns of all time.

902
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: And so now I have I have Barrow and I

903
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: will continue to do so for the rest of my life.

904
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: That's such a good yeah, and he screamed it across

905
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: an active set, like because you know we're friends at

906
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: this point, he's to busting my balls. But like to

907
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: screen that rocks just set with like one hundred people

908
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: were like.

909
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, do you.

910
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 2: How about y'all?

911
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think the idea of the best idea wins

912
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: is something that in TV you have to kind of

913
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: approach every day you show up on set, every scene

914
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: you're walking into with that attitude, and I think that

915
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: was something that I was able over the years to cultivate.

916
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: Took a while. Sometimes you know, there's a trial and error,

917
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: but the more that you learn how to really listen

918
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: to someone else's idea and truly objectively try and judge.

919
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean you're never going to always agree, You're not

920
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: always going to agree, but many times you can and

921
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: usually the best idea will surface and it's obvious to everyone,

922
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: like and whether that's blocking the emotional tone of a scene.

923
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: And so that I think has been really helpful in

924
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: my just in my everyday life, when there's any kind

925
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: of just monotonous problem solving, any kind of random thing

926
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: that needs to be solved, and you get a couple

927
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: of brains in a room and it's like, all right,

928
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: what's the best idea? How do we find that? And

929
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: you sort of detach your ego from it. And I've

930
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: found that to be very helpful.

931
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that it's funny my mind sort of exists between yours,

932
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: because that's the motto from our show that I've kept

933
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 4: that I repeat all the time that I say on.

934
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: Everything, it's a good script, you should read it.

935
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I remember how striking it was to

936
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: hear our executive producer say the best idea always wins.

937
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 4: And I would say honestly that the fascination with how

938
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: you build a team that can really work together that

939
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: was launched by that phrase of Greg's actually led me

940
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: down the sort of larger part of my answer, which

941
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: is that when we started our show, I didn't know

942
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: I was going to direct on it. And I know

943
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: that I'm detail oriented and that there are certain sort

944
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 4: of leadership skills that you know, I have from like

945
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 4: growing up a camp counselor What directing led me into

946
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: that I didn't expect was realizing that I'm a very

947
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: good producer and that was something that had to be

948
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 4: highlighted for me by our producers that we were close

949
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 4: to on this show. And then I continued to it's

950
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: not that I don't love directing. I do. I'd love

951
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 4: to get back to it at some point, but I

952
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 4: am a good producer, you know. I was on the

953
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: campaign trail yesterday sorting out a bunch of things, and

954
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 4: Busy Phillips was with me, and we were laughing about

955
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: how cool it was for both of us to be

956
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 4: back in North Carolina, like seeing of the Dawson's Creek

957
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 4: and one Tree Hill Crimes, you know, and at one

958
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: point there was a problem and I was like, Oh,

959
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: this is how we fix it. You do this, and

960
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: you do this and we'll go over here. And she

961
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 4: was like, God, you're such a producer and we were laughing,

962
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: and I realized that the shadowing I got to do

963
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 4: that I thought was for directing really led me into

964
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: going like, yeah, I love to do that. But the

965
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 4: thing I'm naturally the best at is this, and it's

966
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: and it's been so helpful for me on all the

967
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: movies that I've made and the TV shows that I've

968
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: made since I'm like actually becoming a producer, which I

969
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: never knew I was going to be, And it's so

970
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: cool and so in a way, it feels like the

971
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: extension of Greg's phrase, the best idea always wins. Like

972
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: you might walk into a room because you think you're

973
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: gonna do this, but you're gonna wind up discovering you're

974
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 4: great at that. And what a cool thing to be

975
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: willing to sort of follow your curiosity and your natural

976
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: inclinations to figuring out how to be the best member

977
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: of a team.

978
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 5: That you can.

979
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I would never try to be

980
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: the composer on a set. I'd be like joy, you

981
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: have to compose, Like you're literally so good at it.

982
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: Everything for you as a song, it's music, it's a

983
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: musical even like I wouldn't know you could tell me

984
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: your life depends on you writing a musical, and I'd

985
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 4: be like, it's so nice to know all of you.

986
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: I loved you. You've all encouraged me to grow, Like

987
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: I don't have that skill, and it's so cool, I think,

988
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: especially all of us getting to be together in this

989
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: way now that we get to see.

990
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: The natural, Like, yeah, it takes a team.

991
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: Ways that everyone's developed.

992
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: It's just I just love it. I think it's really neat.

993
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, I second that emotion.

994
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, teamwork. I love the idea that's that

995
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: is so true. And I think something we forget about

996
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: a lot, even falling into what you're talking about with therapy, Rob,

997
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: like we we all tend we live in such a

998
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: me culture that I think we forget that we really

999
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: do need each other. We need each other for therapy,

1000
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: advice for this problem solving. Like teamwork is a real thing.

1001
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: You just you can get so much more done when

1002
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: you get out of your get out of your own

1003
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: way and just work as a team.

1004
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's awesome.

1005
00:51:47,160 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's really good.

1006
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: Shall we spin a wheel?

1007
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, we need as a team. Are we

1008
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: spinning a wheel?

1009
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: Let's do it?

1010
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: How funny? That I just said most likely to win

1011
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: their fantasy football league, and I got destroyed this first week,

1012
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: and I'm very upset about it. Oh my gosh, that

1013
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: is the question most likely to win their fantasy football league.

1014
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: Well not Rob Buckley, apparently, stop. I don't. We don't

1015
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: have enough time. I know some of us have hard outs.

1016
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: I have twenty five minutes of complainings to do that.

1017
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: I just don't think our audience cares about it. Wouldn't

1018
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: be me, though.

1019
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: I will just go ahead and admit that I've never

1020
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: been in a fantasy football league. I've been to like

1021
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: the party where the people do the draft, mostly because

1022
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: I want the beer and the wings. But I've never

1023
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 4: done it, so I don't get it. I know it's

1024
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: a huge world subculture, niche.

1025
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: Culture, don't.

1026
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the right word to describe

1027
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 4: it is, but I just know that I don't do it.

1028
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: Have you ever done it?

1029
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: Joy?

1030
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: Now? They used to pass a chart around on set

1031
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: member and you could put money into it, and somebody

1032
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: I would just like, I'd hand the five dollars and

1033
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: be like, put it on a square. I don't know.

1034
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: I like the number seven and I.

1035
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: Like blue it's great. I got into it because my

1036
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: friends from high school were like, hey, we have nine

1037
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: of us, we need to want more playing this. And

1038
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: I didn't care at all about football, and I only

1039
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 2: did it because I thought, well, for four months out

1040
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: of the year, I'll talk more with these guys more regularly.

1041
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: It was just about connection, and then I caught the bug. Yeah,

1042
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: and now I'm trying to find the balance between I

1043
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: was literally just venting about this to a buddy last

1044
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: night because I was like, in theory, I like this game,

1045
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: but it's definitely not benefiting my mental health. Like I

1046
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: was trying to actually go, Yeah, how much of this

1047
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: day is about it was a hard day of parenting

1048
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: versus I made a terrible trade that just blew up

1049
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: in my face.

1050
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 5: Oh no, can I ask.

1051
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: A question because I don't know how this works. Do you, like,

1052
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 4: I get what it is to make a fantasy football team,

1053
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: But then does that mean that you have to watch

1054
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: all the games or is there some sort of app

1055
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: or website that gives you the info every week?

1056
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's all on an app. So it's

1057
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: like it's either just like three big ones that do it.

1058
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: I realized I just sounded like a grandma, But I

1059
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 4: just don't.

1060
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: I have no idea either. Why did they even pass

1061
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they would pass around a chart

1062
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: on set.

1063
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: That wasn't fantasy football, that was betting on individual games?

1064
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: What's that called?

1065
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: That was like a football pool sometimes it can be

1066
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: called survivor pools. That she just called like a pick them,

1067
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: We'll be like five bucks on green Bay plus two points.

1068
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, I actually have no idea what fantasy football is.

1069
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard of the term, but I I

1070
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: have no idea.

1071
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: D and D for guys who like to think they're jocks.

1072
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, sounds about right and what I would like

1073
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: to vote for. I think the only way you could

1074
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: convince me to play fantasy football is to do it

1075
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 4: the way I just found out my friend's cousin did it,

1076
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 4: or rather my friend's cousin's girlfriend. She got suckered into

1077
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 4: being in a fantasy football league with a bunch of

1078
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: people and was like, yeah, I'll do it if I

1079
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: can only draft guys named Jake. So her entire team

1080
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 4: is made up of football players named Jake. And she's

1081
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Speaker 4: actually crushed people more than once now, and I'm i

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Speaker 4: deeply respect it, so we will see if I can

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Speaker 4: get some more information on that.

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Speaker 5: She was like, don't care, don't even need to know

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Speaker 5: what positions they play.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna do this for fun and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Is Jake the name of someone special in her life

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Speaker 2: or was that just totally arbitrary, don't.

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Speaker 1: I just noticed there's a lot of football players named Jake,

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Speaker 1: And she was like, Jake.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the thing is to figure out, like the how

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Speaker 4: many people do you have on a team?

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Speaker 2: Oh, like eleven, maybe eleven or twelve? Yeah, eleven or twelve?

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Speaker 5: Oh I was close.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we should look up the I don't know,

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Speaker 4: five to ten most common names in the NFL and

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Speaker 4: then have our teams that way and see how we do.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like one season, like everybody gets all the Johns,

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Speaker 4: everybody gets all the Williams, everybody, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem is that, like, for example, her team

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00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: right now would not have a starting quarterback, so it

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00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: would be tough. I heard if someone drafting just players

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00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: they thought were handsome, and I thought that was really funny.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is that person will end up winning

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00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: the league. It's this maddening thing. Where it's like the

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00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: more effort you put into it, it's like the sweatiest

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: guy in the league who does the most trades and

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: analysis usually ends up doing terribly. It's the person who

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Speaker 2: picks all the jakes who wins. Yeah, listen, maybe next

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Speaker 2: season we do one. We just do like, you know,

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00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: a small league with us, and it's just for funzies.

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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: We all throw in like fifty, but they can go

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00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: to charity or whatever. It's just bragging rights. Yeah, and

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00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: we can talk trash a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'll learn I want to learn it.

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00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 4: Maybe we can get like you know, little grease jackets

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 4: or something.

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like high school football.

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Speaker 1: Oh but we're a basketball show. But we could do

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: it with basketball.

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: They make trophies for this.

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Speaker 4: Do people play fantasy basketball? Oh?

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00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: It's everything is fantasy now, So if yeah, is it

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00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: everyone is trying to check out these days. There's like

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00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: fantasy golf, there's fantasy everything. Yeah.

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm down for dram Queens to become a sports podcast.

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Speaker 1: I think that's hilarious, the incredible.

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, it would be kind of great, kind of would

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00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: and then and then you and then you go to

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00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: someone you're it's like, Hey, soph what'd you think about?

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Speaker 5: And I'm like what, Sorry, I'm in the kitchen. I

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: got a snack. Yeah huh yeah, Like nobody knows what's

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Speaker 5: going on.

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Speaker 2: That's our spinoff podcast with snacks and sports, with people

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: who know very little about sports but love snacks. Do

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Speaker 2: we have any honorable mentions?

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00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 4: I mean, so if you don't, I one, Okay, this

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 4: is what I was going to say.

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Speaker 5: I remember a lot.

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00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 6: Of this episode.

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: I clearly did not watch it because I watched the

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00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: last one Oopsie Doodles. But I'm going to go ahead

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00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: and give my honorable mention not to the episode, but

1145
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: to this concept because I think us doing a fantasy

1146
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: league as a cast would actually be totally sick and

1147
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: we could probably make a lot of money for charity.

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Speaker 4: And I really like it.

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: I love it because like, seriously, if you wanted to

1150
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: go in on it, what you do is you raffle off,

1151
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: like someone to co manage the team with you. There's

1152
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if this is actually don't want to

1153
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: do because I've seen companies do this a lot of

1154
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,479
Speaker 2: people to raise money for seeing Jude's and like they

1155
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: raise obscene amounts of money for doing things like this.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's dare me, let's go.

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00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm on board. Okay, yeah, the honorable mention. I agree yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be our upcoming fantasy sports podcast in

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00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: league that you all are going to be invited to,

1161
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: probably for a small a small fee that will go

1162
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: to towards charity. It's a donation donation, you know what

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00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: that is.

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Speaker 4: It's a tax deduction. It's a win win for everybody.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Joy, do you have something from

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00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: the actual episode?

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Speaker 1: I am of course on board with this, even though

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Speaker 1: I really don't know anything about football, But that would

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Speaker 1: still be fun because I can represent all of the

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: people who don't know much about football but still want

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Speaker 1: to engage and hang out with my friends. So I

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Speaker 1: will be that person for you.

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Speaker 2: I just had an idea because the name thing is terrible,

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00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: it's never going to work, and I can really fill

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: a team. How about if you did it by astrological

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00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: signs like I excuse me, my team is l Vergos.

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00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: They're sassy like that would be incredible great.

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Speaker 4: I'll have to do a little more reading about the zodiac,

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: but I'm into it because I will say as a

1180
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: person who doesn't pay much attention to it. Every time

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00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: I hear an on point description of someone that I

1182
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: know based on their zodiac, I'm like, wait, they are

1183
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: exactly that person. Maybe maybe there's there's there's some there

1184
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 4: there is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of a lead doing that, but I

1186
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 1: Oh friends, thanks for hanging in with us. God next episode,

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Speaker 1: Season seven, episode twelve, Some roads lead nowhere. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what this episode should have been titled. Oh God,

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00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: every every road led nowhere in this episode. But I'm

1191
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: glad the next one is going to be just as

1192
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: hard to find.

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Speaker 4: I really hope we're on the up and it's.

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00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: Gonna be good.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be in to find out.

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Speaker 1: Friends, Bye bye bye, Hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 4: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's ot.

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Speaker 1: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 5: See you next time.

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Speaker 3: We all about that high school drama Girl, Drama Girl,

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Speaker 3: all about them high.

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