Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to this week's episode of Left and Learned.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Flaming Bro, and we just celebrated
Speaker 1: Christmas twenty twenty four and I couldn't have done alone
Speaker 1: without my partner, Miss Bobby Cliff. And how are you
Speaker 1: doing to?
Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. I can't believe that just two
Speaker 2: short days we're going to be in the whole new
Speaker 2: year and this is gonna be. I could feel it
Speaker 2: in my bones. It's gonna be our year.
Speaker 1: Flaming girl, that ain't no feeling. That's games. Then you'll
Speaker 1: not get off.
Speaker 2: Or rum chod Athrit is one of the other ones.
Speaker 1: Ooh that is That is Republicanism. Ooh yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Are manifesting, manifesting.
Speaker 1: How was your Christmas, Bobby?
Speaker 2: You want it was? It was really nice. It was
Speaker 2: super quiet. It was just me and the ladies. And
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I used to love the all the
Speaker 2: hubby we used to have. Big Momma was one of
Speaker 2: eleven kids. We used to have huge family functions and
Speaker 2: I and I some days I mourn because they got
Speaker 2: too big that every one of her blieves that they
Speaker 2: have to have their own. But I kind of liked it.
Speaker 2: This year we stayed in our pajamas. It was really quiet.
Speaker 2: I liked it. I needed I think I needed the rest.
Speaker 2: And how about you?
Speaker 1: You know, it was not even for when we were together,
Speaker 1: we said and prayed together. I don't I at necessarily
Speaker 1: say we ate together, but we prayed together as the family,
Speaker 1: and so it was uneven for quiet, and I was.
Speaker 1: I was grateful forward, honey, and my secret Santa showed
Speaker 1: up this year and was very nice to me. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: my super standard. But I don't kill y'all. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: uh so, and tomorrow is New Year's g well, New
Speaker 1: Year's eve e, because you know, tomorrow's New Year's.
Speaker 2: Eve bro, Tomorrow, today is the easy you And what
Speaker 2: are you doing? You're very busy? Correct?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a lot going on him. My
Speaker 1: mom would say I had a drag seal. But y'all know,
Speaker 1: today is the anniversary of me being acostic thirty five
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I talk about that all the time, that
Speaker 1: I was just in a bad place mentally of heart
Speaker 1: over love and was off my game and two young
Speaker 1: white boys snatched me up. And uh and to be
Speaker 1: honest by me, I probably would have died that night,
Speaker 1: had I And I'm not gonna say that I fought back,
Speaker 1: but I fought for my life. I didn't fight necessary
Speaker 1: because I had no win. I had no win. Maybe
Speaker 1: that white boy hit me. Let me tell you, I
Speaker 1: can laugh about it now. But because I had been drinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not a drinker, but I was going through some
Speaker 1: love stuff. So I had two cocktails. I think I
Speaker 1: was toe up so and the when the white boy
Speaker 1: hit me, he hit me so hard that I think
Speaker 1: it dazed me. And it sobered me up immediately, and
Speaker 1: I realized.
Speaker 2: Adrenal went at that. Yeah, if you're not too far gone,
Speaker 2: and two drinks wouldn't. I mean, I'm not great on
Speaker 2: two drinks myself because we don't drink, but I think
Speaker 2: the adrenaline probably you know, came in and then you
Speaker 2: get the fight or flight, right, so it's sober.
Speaker 1: It sobered me up to whew. I understood the severity
Speaker 1: of the situation I was in. So I kicked and
Speaker 1: rolled out the car because when I saw the knife,
Speaker 1: because they had a huge knife, when it was smooth
Speaker 1: on one side and serrated on the other side, Oh, they
Speaker 1: were going to get me. And this was eighty nine,
Speaker 1: eighty eight, eighty nine, eighty nine, so nine. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we were very much unseen as trans people. It would
Speaker 1: have been some man in address was killed you if
Speaker 1: it would have even made the news. And that's just
Speaker 1: the truth of what life is. Unfortunately, with the way
Speaker 1: the new with the way the new regime coming in,
Speaker 1: we might go back to those kind of situations. I'm
Speaker 1: sad to say that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was Trump. President Trump was at an event.
Speaker 2: I'm going to not be able to find it because
Speaker 2: I didn't have it up like ready. And he was
Speaker 2: saying he was going to get rid of, you know,
Speaker 2: the lunacy that is transgender and he's going to take
Speaker 2: them out of schools, and he's going to take them
Speaker 2: out of grammar schools, middle schools, and high schools as
Speaker 2: anybody in grammar or middle I mean, it's so stupid this.
Speaker 2: I doubt there's any little kids that are quoting at
Speaker 2: five years old at they're transgender.
Speaker 1: Well, well hold on, Bobby pushed back on this side
Speaker 1: from a transgender woman. A lot some of these some
Speaker 1: of these kids will just say it one time and
Speaker 1: the parents will roll with it. I don't agree with
Speaker 1: that because as a parent now as a transparent, I'm
Speaker 1: speaking as a parent now, who is the parent? Who
Speaker 1: is the parent? Because I understand that you let little
Speaker 1: Bobby and little Sally, little Jack and little Jill, you know,
Speaker 1: say this or say that, but they still have to
Speaker 1: be guided. And I'm telling you that that's not in them.
Speaker 1: But explain that to me. Put down your phone or
Speaker 1: your computer, whatever book you read that on what and
Speaker 1: explain that. And if you can explain that to me,
Speaker 1: we can go further from there. But if you cannot,
Speaker 1: which most of the times they cannot, Yeah, baby, squash
Speaker 1: that shit and that And that's just how I feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I think they're just too little
Speaker 2: to understand it. I mean it's so hard for people
Speaker 2: that are older to completely understand it. So I think
Speaker 2: it they might feel a little different, or they could
Speaker 2: just be a tomboy, or they could just be a feminine,
Speaker 2: feminine boy. You know, does it mean that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna when you say that, getting older,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really need you older people to keep up, Bobby.
Speaker 1: I'm really going to need you older people to keep
Speaker 1: up with our generation. Thank you everybody.
Speaker 2: He was that I found it. He was at America Fast,
Speaker 2: which is a young conservative group that's in Arizona. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he said that by executive order he's going to
Speaker 2: end child mutilations, get get get the transgenders out of
Speaker 2: the military, and get them out of the elementary, middle
Speaker 2: and high schools. But it's not new, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, and so much of that Bobby, as a trans
Speaker 1: woman in this country bothers me because it's like we're
Speaker 1: going all the way back to the fifties. We have
Speaker 1: so many things, so many luxuries afforded to us, from
Speaker 1: name changing to FFS which is social feminization surgery, to
Speaker 1: SRS which is sexual reassignment surgery, to working jobs, to
Speaker 1: having health care, to marriage equality, so many and because
Speaker 1: it was a different generation that wanted more and more
Speaker 1: more than enough, was never enough. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that we don't look for change, but there's a certain
Speaker 1: way that you have to go about doing it. If
Speaker 1: you force it, you know it's scarce people. But if
Speaker 1: you work with people hand in hand and say hey,
Speaker 1: we can do this better if we work together and
Speaker 1: let us try it this way. I just believe that's
Speaker 1: not pandering, but that is I'm gonna work with you.
Speaker 1: I just need you to work with me. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get that. And Bobby, it looks
Speaker 1: like now they want to take away every right that
Speaker 1: we had. This shouldn't about to get very scary, it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, what you should have failed more than anything,
Speaker 2: is just safe, safe to be yourself before. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if it'll be any different, but you're not
Speaker 2: going to be just naturally afforded all of that what
Speaker 2: you're doing in this administration, at least that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2: But we'll see. I mean, he's got a congresswoman that
Speaker 2: is trans and he certainly has a very big LGBT
Speaker 2: group with in between Congress and the Senate. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: We'll see what actually happens.
Speaker 1: Listen from from from from allegedly from what we've been
Speaker 1: seeing on the news, he got one in the LGBT group.
Speaker 1: He got an LGBT P group because a lot of
Speaker 1: the people that he would put on a point in
Speaker 1: phenomenees and everything, a lot of them fall up under
Speaker 1: the P. If you don't know what the P is,
Speaker 1: you go to the doctor to get I mean, you
Speaker 1: go to the nail Salon to get a manny petty
Speaker 1: because a lot of them looking very petty, and I
Speaker 1: ain't talk about with a t ship.
Speaker 2: Good god, they are they're forget even that they're they're
Speaker 2: they're in fighting. You know you've got.
Speaker 1: The they're like babies, Oh my god, oh big babies.
Speaker 2: He free. He came out Trump over the weekend and
Speaker 2: said that he supports or understands the need for the
Speaker 2: H one B visas. Those are the visas. A lot
Speaker 2: of tech people get them, but there are somebody's coming
Speaker 2: in for a certain amount of time. I think it's
Speaker 2: three years, don't quote me. And you have to be
Speaker 2: here for a specific job or whatnot. It's sort of
Speaker 2: like the poor people who were eating the dogs and
Speaker 2: eating the cats. They were all here for a specific
Speaker 2: reason to finish a specific job. So he made that
Speaker 2: comment and Musk kind of jumped on it and said,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like the uh, it's like the tech
Speaker 2: bros versus Mega, you know they He said, Mopsk that
Speaker 2: we need the best and the brightest, and the only
Speaker 2: way we're going to do it is if we bring
Speaker 2: these people in. Well, Bannon and Lumer lost their bananas.
Speaker 2: They don't want anybody. They don't care if they're here
Speaker 2: for engineering jobs, they don't care. They want no no
Speaker 2: immigration at all, which is not how you can run
Speaker 2: an economy. We needed you.
Speaker 1: There was so funny about the immigration love. They are
Speaker 1: led in. Two immigrants, Ramas Swambi and uh Mus tell
Speaker 1: them what to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah alone.
Speaker 1: That name alone is immigration immigration. Yeah they immigrated that name.
Speaker 1: That name may that name maybe an American? Maybe that
Speaker 1: name was immigrated. Let's just be honest about it.
Speaker 2: Well, he's only he's only the first generation. So usually
Speaker 2: when your first generation, you're you're very respectful and you
Speaker 2: like the process and you feel lucky and blessed. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't see that from him. That's not his personality though. Ramaswamy,
Speaker 2: he's he doesn't. He doesn't like the boots of anybody
Speaker 2: other than Donald Trump and John Junior. Is there's something
Speaker 2: this weekend saying that Dems aren't the only people who
Speaker 2: are our enemies. It's the vast majority of the Republicans too,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if the Republicans and the Democrats, who's left.
Speaker 1: I saw that Bobby, I saw him speak about that too,
Speaker 1: But I do know there is a lot of infighting.
Speaker 1: And if it was a Democratic party, and here's the
Speaker 1: here's the part that blows me with the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: with the weakness of my party, which is the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: if it was us right now, they would have it.
Speaker 1: They would be a field there on the media talking about,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're fighting like you. But because it's
Speaker 1: the Republicans and the Trump regime, it's barely it's barely
Speaker 1: spoken about on the on the main media circus. It's
Speaker 1: spoken about on social media, but on the main media
Speaker 1: focus not at all. It is it is. It is wild,
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's wild, Bobby, It's it's crazy. It's really crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Bannon was calling Mosca toddler, and you have to have
Speaker 2: like child Services coming in, like, oh my god. This
Speaker 2: was worse than when they were pushing for Biden out
Speaker 2: and that if I thought that was so miserable, this is, uh,
Speaker 2: this is just as miserable.
Speaker 3: Too funny, But I mean, when those two bulls lack horns, though,
Speaker 3: when those two rams hit heads musket Trump, that is
Speaker 3: going to be something because Musk may have that financial power,
Speaker 3: but Trump gonna still remind him that I'm the president.
Speaker 2: Oh, I blame. I totally agree. I think it's going
Speaker 2: to I don't think it'll make it a year before
Speaker 2: there's going to be some sort of fuff. I think
Speaker 2: it's kinna. I think it's going to be ugly, which
Speaker 2: is not going to be good for the for the country.
Speaker 2: But you know what we say, you know they fucked around.
Speaker 2: Now they're going to find out.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a I do want to
Speaker 1: be a party to find out. I was trying to
Speaker 1: win at one point two billion dollars, as somebody one
Speaker 1: the other day, but unfortunately I had never even heard
Speaker 1: of Cottonwood, California, speaking of cottonwood, speaking of cotton that's
Speaker 1: just we want to give a moment of silence till
Speaker 1: our beloved President, thirty ninth president. He finally made it
Speaker 1: to one hundred and was able to make history by
Speaker 1: voting for the Well, well, no, because she's not the
Speaker 1: first female, but she's the first.
Speaker 2: We were, yeah, we were hoping that she'd actually she'd
Speaker 2: actually get in.
Speaker 1: He was actually he actually Harris, Yeah, James Earl Carter,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, j Earl. That's a country named Jimmy or
Speaker 1: I'll betually They called him Jimmy Earl when he was young.
Speaker 2: James Jones this year too, to James Earls, to Jimmy
Speaker 2: Arrow back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, thirty ninth president. And you know what, Bobby,
Speaker 1: he's married to his wife, Roslynd Carter, who he lost
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half ago. I didn't, to
Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't expect Jimmy Carter to live this long.
Speaker 1: I love that he made it to one hundred, because
Speaker 1: poor Betty White almost made it. But I knew that
Speaker 1: because they had been married for so long. And they
Speaker 1: always say that people who had been married for such
Speaker 1: a long time and been in love. While I've been
Speaker 1: married through ups and downs, they one is usually not
Speaker 1: here much longer when the other one leaves. And so
Speaker 1: he made it more way longer than I thought he would, honestly,
Speaker 1: and he.
Speaker 2: Really put his He showed us that your life was
Speaker 2: not just necessarily the presidency because he was only in
Speaker 2: for four years. He came in at the very beginning
Speaker 2: of our Middle East problem with the hostage crisis. He
Speaker 2: took a chance, he gambling. The gamble for him did
Speaker 2: not work. He was in from seventy seven to eighty one.
Speaker 2: He was like the first president I can actually remember,
Speaker 2: you know, like I remember having to shot our Remember Jery,
Speaker 2: the oil embargo shut our sermon says down sixty five
Speaker 2: during the day, fifty five at night. And remember the
Speaker 2: during the crime the hostage crisis, the gas lines were
Speaker 2: like around the block and you only got like so
Speaker 2: many gallons, you know, because of course we weren't getting
Speaker 2: any of the Middle Eastern oil, so you know, we
Speaker 2: had to be we had to be really prudent with it.
Speaker 1: But he was. He was an environmental Yeah, I'm loving
Speaker 1: the story about me. I got to interrupt. You live
Speaker 1: in Boston, y'all had fifty five in Boston at night,
Speaker 1: y'all real white people, y'all white people for real? Cold.
Speaker 2: I actually do it because I would have a hot
Speaker 2: flash when I sleep at night. You know. When I
Speaker 2: was a kid, we just had an extra blanket. My
Speaker 2: mother just put an extra blanket because we were trying
Speaker 2: to do the presidential thing. That's how we got every day,
Speaker 2: and my parents would not like to complain about it.
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all white people, for real. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure you realized, although you might have forgotten.
Speaker 4: Do you want to know that Boston in the seventies, girl, No,
Speaker 4: that were now because this global woman, it's probably ninety
Speaker 4: degrees over there.
Speaker 1: But in the seventies, no.
Speaker 2: Man, he said, oh my god, it was yeah, it
Speaker 2: was called. Well, I'm not gonna lie to you. We
Speaker 2: wore a lot of I think we had a turtleneck
Speaker 2: on from like October until April, you know, like we
Speaker 2: had a turtle neck and a sweater. And you wore
Speaker 2: a little sweater, and and we all my mother Soda
Speaker 2: saw all these pretty blankets and you just put them
Speaker 2: on while you watch TV. We all cozy. He was
Speaker 2: ahead of his time with environmentalism. He had solar panels
Speaker 2: on the White House. Of course, Reagan ripped them off
Speaker 2: the that he got in, But he was trying anyway
Speaker 2: to to have us be more self sustaining and not
Speaker 2: rely on the Middle East oil and all of that.
Speaker 2: So God bless them. The nine says the state funeral,
Speaker 2: his body will be flown to Washington. They said something
Speaker 2: about putting him on a truck and not a truck truck,
Speaker 2: a train, like making it old fashioned, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: like FDR they would chase in the train. He said,
Speaker 2: I will haunt you all until a day after you die.
Speaker 2: If you put me on a train and direct my
Speaker 2: body all over the country, he says, I want to
Speaker 2: fly in and fly out, and so that's what he's getting.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is going to do eulogy. Joe Biden actually
Speaker 2: was one of the first to back them. He just
Speaker 2: got into the Senate, so they were kind of close.
Speaker 2: I thought this was super interesting. His grandson, Jason Carter,
Speaker 2: we saw him at Rossland's Ross Lens and he did
Speaker 2: a great job. He's going to do eulogy. And then
Speaker 2: Gerald Ford and Walter Mondale both wrote while they were
Speaker 2: alive eulogies for Jimmy Carter, and their sons are going
Speaker 2: to read them.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? You know Joe Ford and me had
Speaker 1: the same birthday. Really yeah, birthday. He was triple sevens.
Speaker 1: They say he was lucky not calling to the president.
Speaker 1: His name was lucky. What was I about to say
Speaker 1: with my crazy behalf? You know what I've been loving
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Carter is now you know, after the president dies,
Speaker 1: they go and talk about his history in Wouisble. They
Speaker 1: always call him the peanut farm or whatever. As the president,
Speaker 1: but now they have made such beautiful stories. And I
Speaker 1: did know so many accomplishments, accomplishments that he had acquired
Speaker 1: while he was the president, because they never talked about that.
Speaker 1: They only talk about the negative. So I love the
Speaker 1: fact that I love the love story of his life
Speaker 1: with his wife. You know outside she was yeah, she
Speaker 1: was a she was a grand first lady, and but
Speaker 1: I love the partnership of that. It just it reminded
Speaker 1: me of why we do love our country, even though
Speaker 1: sometimes it look like our country is going straight to you.
Speaker 1: I say it straight, do that paths go through not
Speaker 1: I collect two hundred dollars. Good God. But it was
Speaker 1: a wonderful story and has been really reporting beautiful on him.
Speaker 2: They did one of the most interesting and I'm going
Speaker 2: to get her name. Her first name is Mary. There
Speaker 2: was a woman, she was a black woman that was
Speaker 2: falsely accused of murder, and he and his wife really
Speaker 2: believed in racial injustice and trying to fix things. They
Speaker 2: got things somehow turned around, Like this woman met her
Speaker 2: attorney the day she was going into court like it
Speaker 2: was a hot mess. But he didn't just talk the talk,
Speaker 2: flame he walked the walk. He hired her to take
Speaker 2: care of his daughter Amy and brought her to the
Speaker 2: White House to be her nanny. Even there, and she
Speaker 2: is still alive, and she is still very close with
Speaker 2: the family all along, and I thought, wow, that is
Speaker 2: and that was all quiet. Of course the reporter had
Speaker 2: to dig in and find that out. They were trying
Speaker 2: to twist it and make something awful of it, like
Speaker 2: he's got a murder up in the White House, and
Speaker 2: that when everybody heard the story, it kind of turned
Speaker 2: around on them. So I thought, these are these were
Speaker 2: good as salt of the earth people, you know. So
Speaker 2: so we'll have to look forward to their to the
Speaker 2: state funeral on the nice.
Speaker 1: So as we come to the end up twenty twenty four, Bobby,
Speaker 1: it is we've lost so many people this year. We
Speaker 1: lost so many great people this year, Bobby. We lost
Speaker 1: a lot of great people in twenty twenty four. Min
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I know we still got tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh, you certainly do. I I was looking up. I
Speaker 2: was going to try to make the list so we
Speaker 2: could do it. I couldn't get past September. We lost
Speaker 2: on the same day as Jimmy. We lost Linda Lavin,
Speaker 2: who I loved She was a big Broadway babe as
Speaker 2: well as Alice.
Speaker 1: She did you know girl in town? Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: the lady girl. I used to love that.
Speaker 2: Kiss your grants. I used to love when the one
Speaker 2: flow used to say that and now and all that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a great show. She did something
Speaker 2: more recently with Sean Hayes and she was the bomb,
Speaker 2: and I thought that was terrific too. She still was
Speaker 2: quick and she had to be eighty, you know, doing it.
Speaker 2: So we lost her. We lost Greg Gumble, Nicki Giovanni,
Speaker 2: Chuck Willery, Quincy Jones, Terry Garr, Liam Payne, Sissy Houston,
Speaker 2: Pete Rose, Chris Christofferson, James Earl Jones. And then I went,
Speaker 2: you know what, I caught Maggie Smith. I'm like, I can't,
Speaker 2: I can't write any more down. That was only like
Speaker 2: I only went back two or three months. We lost
Speaker 2: a lot of greats this year. Yeah, which you know,
Speaker 2: my father always says, you're next up, and I'm making it.
Speaker 1: Uh. You mentioned somebody I have so much respect for.
Speaker 1: She never got her gest us because you know they
Speaker 1: put bear stuff about her, which is Nicki Giovanni, great poet,
Speaker 1: great activists, great thought felt, provoking person because she would
Speaker 1: make you think of who you were and why you
Speaker 1: were and understand, you know you are, this is who
Speaker 1: you are, because this is what the universe created you
Speaker 1: to be. Oh. I used to love to hear her speak.
Speaker 1: And you know, she had came out about Bill Cosby
Speaker 1: in the seventies and they just went after that woman
Speaker 1: so bad, destroy her career. Come to find out a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that she said was allegedly true. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she was. She was a I hope someone does a
Speaker 1: story about her. You know, they broke her, Bobby, they
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