1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Reveal. Reveally, look at the snow. 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Jesus No, you fit in seamlessly in this weird Nknevin 3 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: we're doing. 4 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: When your box gets set, And. 5 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: That intro is important because it's just me eating and 6 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: swallowing gross objects and then gross images of my toes. 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: Welcome everyone on this here, we'll turn this up a 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: little bit on the second day of March for Morning Combat, 9 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: the first pregame preview of twenty twenty six. Where's my 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: hip hop horn? I better get one? Thank you very much. 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Welcome. 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, as we bring in our New York 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: City's studios, we are back. Finally, poor fiend, we are 14 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 3: here and we have a lot to get to today. 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: So let's intro the panel. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: so much for watching. Were really appreciate it. To my 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: left is a man from MME Fighting. What is your 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: title with MME Fighting? 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Man? 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: All right? 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: Content creator? 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Clown rodeo clown, uh Jed Mishu. 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: And then at the end it's the iceman himself, sub 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Zero chuckmanon hall. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: What's on? 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: Content destroyers? 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: Content Destroyer? We have a lot to get to today, 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: so we did have UFC Mexico this past weekend. We're 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: gonna talk about that for just a second, and then 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna get into the big one, because this weekend 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: is UFC three twenty six, which of course is going 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: to feature a b MF title fight between I would say, 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: you know, fairly legendish kind of fighters in the game, 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: between Max Holloway and Charles Olivera. But before we do that, 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: let's let's get. 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Some things here. 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Squared Away number one follow us on social if you'd 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 3: be so kind here. You can see them right down there, 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: morning combats everywhere, and then there's mine as well. 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Fuck the you don't care about their socials. 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: I know that we don't have one with all three 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 5: of you on it, So rather than leave one of 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: you out, I figure we leave both you. 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't want you. 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Being on social is miserable these days. There's no fun 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: to it at all. Let's go to the third member 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: here of our show. 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: It's uh. 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 3: He was bragging about his earnings at the wagering table, 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: so to speak, over the weekend. 52 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: It's long Island. Look what's up, bro? 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 6: No big deal? Perfect weekend betting this weekend? What's two? 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: Chalky parlays admittedly, but you know, either way, after some 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: losing weeks, it was nice to finally get a dub. 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: Don't don't say perfect weekend. If it's two bets like that, 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: that suggests. 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 5: That is six fights that had to go my way, sir, 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 5: I mean two bets. Did you bet any upsets in 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 5: the Yeah, well I had a Bobby Green bet that 61 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 5: wasn't that was all. 62 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 6: I did take a Bobby Green bet right before that 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 6: fight started. It was plus two to eighty. 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: Okay, so three bets then we can accept. 65 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: Well, dude, if we're including prelim bets, you know I 66 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 5: had like twenty bets. I did not have a perfect night, 67 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 5: but you know we're talking main card. Which are the 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 5: bets I give out? That's a perfect night? 69 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: All right? 70 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: Very good? 71 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: Of course you can email the show Morning Coombat at 72 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: gmail dot com. Now, we don't have any merch to 73 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: show you, although you can always shop for merch Morningcombat 74 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: dot shop. We do have some evergreen items. You can 75 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: check those out on the store What's the deal Long Island. 76 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: So ordinarily we debuted at the beginning of the month. 77 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: We just finished on Saturday. Saturday was the last day 78 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: for the February haul. We're gonna have the new designs 79 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: on Friday, Is that right correct? 80 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 5: We got two new designs. They're gonna come out on Friday. 81 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 5: Actually really excited about both of them. Just couldn't get 82 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: them ready in time today. 83 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: No one's no. 84 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: I'll blame myself, my fault. Couldn't get them in time today. 85 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: But we'll have him by friend. 86 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Also, put the camera on Chuck if you can for 87 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: just a second here, please just on Charles. No, no, 88 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: not this fucking idiot. Now, Chuck, move to your right 89 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: for a second. 90 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Move to you. Yeah, you'll notice they still got Brian 91 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Campbell on the graphics there. 92 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Cambell shouts to shouts to Brian, ca I texted VC 93 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: on the train this morning. He sends his regards to 94 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: everyone who send you the Uh, well, you don't know 95 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: that's Brian Campbell. 96 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Literally the first sentence I heard you say today was 97 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: they're not telling you the truth. 98 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I unlike Brian. I'm like Brian. I'm like Brian Campbell. 99 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: I have evidence. That's that's the difference. I was literally 100 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: I took my daughter to a roller skating rink yesterday. 101 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: She loves to go roller skating and we were just 102 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: sitting in one of the main areas as my daughter 103 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: was just doing the laps with some of her friends, 104 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: and they had on Sports Center on one side and 105 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: then CBA Sports HQ in the other one, and there 106 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: was BC. So I took a picture and I said 107 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: to him. I was like, bro, you're here at the 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: roller skating rink with me. He's like, I didn't shower 109 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: for this appearance and I had sweatpants. 110 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's like you assumed differently. Ye, I 111 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: was assuming you were unshowered. That's that's not that's not 112 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: a new thing. 113 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: Hard to see another man live your dreams. 114 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. All right, how are you doing, gentlemen? 115 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Howre we doing? 116 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: I'm glad that we're finally back in studio. Yes, this 117 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: has been a long over. I've been kind of more 118 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: of a regular on the show. We have not been 119 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: able to do this, so this that's right. Oh, I 120 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: mean we've been in a studio to to be right, 121 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: not since the new iteration yet, Jed, you haven't been 122 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: fired yet. 123 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: Haven't been fired yet? I mean fingers crossed. 124 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: That that's something yet yet. 125 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: It's important. First time seeing Chuck face to face in 126 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: a really long time. We're talking about. It was the 127 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: last time twenty sixteen when all three of us. 128 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: That's that's you shouldn't meet. 129 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: That we were like together in a room that we 130 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: did them fighting like that. 131 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 132 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, ten years later we're all back. Boys. 133 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: That's I haven't even talked to this guy, you know, well, 134 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean don't. 135 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's not true. We already spend you'll find 136 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: out Friday. 137 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh oh, is he spoiling things? 138 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 5: I'm it's known they're playing each other on pop Quiz 139 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: this Friday, but the results haven't been spoil. 140 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: You're going to see a smack down, guys. Tune in. 141 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: All right, very good, Well, listen, we got some show 142 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: to get to here. You know, uh, should we toast 143 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: now or should we do? You know what we'll just 144 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: do before you have seen Mexico. 145 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: Let's we can toast, all right? 146 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: So here we go, rib bajo el centro pod dan 147 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: throw got actually toast. Hold on, I got to tell 148 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: you the story right to the top there, bud. So 149 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm taking adult Spanish classes. There's this girl in my class. 150 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: She does a pretty good job of like when they 151 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: call on her to like do the work. She can 152 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: like say it when I tell you, she makes absolutely 153 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: zero effort at an accent. 154 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: I mean, zeroe, no fuck that. 155 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: She's like may gusta la coca limo not die. And 156 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I mean, I'm like, I know 157 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Brian Campbell would prefer you to speak Spanish this way, 158 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: but this is a terrible way to do it. All right, 159 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: let's talk very quickly if we can, about UFC in Mexico, 160 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: and then we'll roll into the UFC three twenty six preview. Chuck, 161 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: I'll start with you, Brandon Moreno, my man looks shopborn, 162 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: did he not? I want to give all the credit 163 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: to Loney, Lani. Keep seeing Loney Lonnie Cavanaugh, who I 164 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: thought perform. I mean, let's talk about it. He came 165 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: in on short notice, up at altitude in another guy's hometown, 166 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: former champion, and short notice. He had the wind at 167 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: his face, not his back, and he I thought, with 168 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: the exception of getting stalled out kind of the last 169 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: couple of rounds, I thought he looked. 170 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: True was knocked out, like what six months ago, knocked out? 171 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Knock out. 172 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: You don't really get it stacked against you quite like that, right, like, 173 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: and I think that there was a there was a 174 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: little bit of a you know, the division is passing 175 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno by and we had to discuss talking to 176 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: Ben folks about this where you're like, you think he 177 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 4: gets back into a title contention. I was, I said, yes, 178 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: you know, and then you watch this fight. He said no, 179 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: And now you watch this fight and you're like, it 180 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: might have been just one of those things that he's 181 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if he's the same guy. 182 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: It just did not look like the same guy to me, 183 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: which is a shame because I felt like this whole 184 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: that event was catered to him, right like you're you're 185 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: putting an event in Mexico City, and uh, I really 186 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: thought we'd get the like one of his vintage type 187 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: of performances. And I guess, honestly, to look through the 188 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: proper lens, it should go to Kavanaugh. Though I think 189 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: that he looked, you know, very good, like like you 190 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: always hate to say, like star making performance, but when 191 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: you're a main event in that kind of situation, you 192 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: should be able to build off something like that. 193 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Dude, it's a starmaking performance. I mean, it's it's Josh 194 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: Van Last year. You know, Van started twenty twenty five unranked, 195 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: got to and then took a short notice fight against 196 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: Brenda Reval and suddenly by the end of the year 197 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: he's fighting for the belt wins. It not quite the same, 198 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: But Lonnie Kavanaugh, like you said, didn't even mention the 199 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: short notice, also went from three to five, Like three 200 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: to five at altitude is insane, man, And I do 201 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: think we saw that in the performance. He slowed down, 202 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: I think considerably in the last couple of rounds, which 203 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: makes sense. He was planning to fight in Vegas for 204 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, not in Mexico City for twenty five. But 205 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: that's a former two time champion, one of the more 206 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: popular fighters, certainly in the lower weight classes, and just 207 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: on roster, and had he starched him in that second round, 208 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: when Lonnie's got him like hurt, then it's to the moon. 209 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: But still like that is that's the best thing you 210 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: could hope for. If you're a Lonnie Kavanaugh, like coming 211 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: off the Charles Johnson KO, You're like, Okay, gonna take 212 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: him a minute to get back. He's still super young, 213 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: super talented. You have to build back. He just skipped 214 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: all of that was like, oh, actually, what if I 215 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: just take this fight and I'm good now? 216 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: And he is. 217 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked tremendous. I thought his style wasn't incredible. 218 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: It ended up being a case where that kind of 219 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: hunched forward style that Brandon has, you know, where he's 220 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: heavy on that front foot doe those leg kicks from 221 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: Canada destroyed him. It ended up being like stylistically, something 222 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: of a bad matchup in the end, just based on 223 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: what Kavanaugh did. You mentioned the starmaking performance. I would 224 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: only push back on that ever so slightly, which is 225 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: that people have to watch it to be star making, 226 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, that is a point. 227 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: And in Mexico City it didn't even sell out. There 228 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: was about four thousand unsold tickets, which for UFC is quite. 229 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: Rare these days. 230 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh, they were on a streak over the last few 231 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: years where they had like a string of consecutive. 232 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: Style I can't remember the last one before this that 233 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: wasn't a sellout that We're pretty close anyway, To be fair. 234 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Mexico had some stuff going on in the lead up 235 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: the event. 236 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: Which effect also we had Rodrigo del Campo on Friday 237 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: and he was telling us that, like, you know people 238 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: Brandon ma Reno for sure in Mexico, but it was 239 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: like the third or fourth of these in a row 240 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: where he was the main event. 241 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: He's headlined like everyone, rather. 242 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Than they're being like a yair card or some other 243 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of variations. 244 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: Only Raoul Rosas had been available, so like, maybe take 245 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: a fight. 246 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: I know time, it's a shame that he's not fighting. 247 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: They got a lot of events and they don't got 248 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: a lot of guys, so they got to. 249 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Make things work. 250 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: Dude, this would be a bad anyway, we'll talk about it. 251 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 4: It'd be a bad card. 252 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: If you weren't on, it would be a lot worse, 253 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: no kidding, no kidding. 254 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 3: In the co main event, we were talking about this 255 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: before the show, Jed David Martinez. I thought looked for 256 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: the most part, pretty good for the most part, did 257 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: what you thought he could do. The only thing that 258 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: I did think was I loved Cheeto's adjustments in the 259 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: third to kind of reach and hold the collar. 260 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Time. That was a five round fight. Is it a 261 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: hot take to say Cheetah would have won it? 262 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: No, but that's the Cheeto Vera story. Unless he's like 263 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: fighting Sean O'Malley over five rounds, It's oh nice of 264 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: you to start fighting in the third, Cheetoh what were 265 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: you doing for ten minutes before this? Like that fight 266 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: went exactly. I think most people thought Dave Martinez is 267 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: very talented. I really like his his floor, not his ceiling. 268 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever gonna fight for a belt, 269 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: though he could prove me wrong, but like he's gonna 270 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: be a Danny Gay, a Rob Vaughn. He's gonna be 271 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: a perennial top fifteen guy for the next six seven years. 272 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: But Cheeto is impossible to hurt, and Cheeto will eventually 273 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: get going, and when he does, Cheeto has much more 274 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: dynamic offense and was also just enormous compared to David Martinez. 275 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: And once Dave Martinez started to slow down, Cheeto could 276 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: have a little more success as he started to get going. 277 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Over five rounds, he probably wins it, But like, you 278 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: got to earn five round opportunities, man, And he's lost 279 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: so many because frankly, a lot of his own fault, right, 280 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: Like he could do. 281 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: More ohenfortunely, Yeah, Island Luke was saying that, you know 282 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: he was high on David Martin's but he came down 283 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: after this win. 284 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about this? 285 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: Because do you think that this kind of like you 286 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 4: were just mentioning, maybe he doesn't become a champion. I 287 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: think there was a little bit of buzz that he 288 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: could do that. But you see a performance, what do 289 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: you do? You take something from that? 290 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: So I think Cheeto is like uniquely situated to make 291 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: Martin David Martinez's flaws stand out, because if you're you 292 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: can see him the whole time. He's just bouncing, bouncing, bouncing, bouncing. 293 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: It's hard to sit down and punch a guy. And then, 294 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Cheetah literally has maybe one of the 295 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: Cheeto's got no gara chin, like he's just got an 296 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: other worldly ability. 297 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: So like if your whole. 298 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Thing is touch and go, touch and go, and he's 299 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: starting to encroach on that space over time, it's a 300 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: tough way to win over five rounds. Obviously three he 301 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: got the job done. So what I'm saying is I 302 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: definitely understand what long Island Luke's point is, I would 303 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: just slightly caution that, like Cheeto is a hard guy 304 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: to look good against with that particular style, but that 305 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: could translate much better against other contenders. 306 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: I talked to Cheeto before the fight, trained up a 307 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: big bear. Yeah you did, and you know, just hearing 308 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: what he had to say. One of the things he 309 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: told me was essentially like I'm fighting for my job 310 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: without like the saying it. You watch this fight, you 311 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: see him coming on, like we're talking about it, like 312 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: if it goes five rounds, who knows, maybe he ends 313 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: up winning this fight. What do they do with him? Like, 314 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: do you I don't think that they'll actually part. They're 315 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: never there, never come because he's two, he's too That's 316 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think he's he was zeroing in 317 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 4: on his uh you know he I think he wanted 318 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: up his urgency, but it didn't really show up. So 319 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: I Do'm not sure what you do with Cheetoh at 320 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: this point. 321 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing at when forty five, just to 322 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: change of pace. Maybe something's a little different there. But like, 323 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: the structural problems of Cheeto are that he is a 324 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: slow starter, and that is a much more difficult thing 325 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: to be in a three round fight than is five. 326 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: If you want to give him a rebound, put him 327 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: in an APEX main event. I'm serious, give been an 328 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: APEX main event, see if you can see what he 329 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: can do with it. But it is again, that's the 330 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: weird part. 331 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Right, Like the fight's over, you're like, oh wow, cheetohs 332 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: on four he's a rough slide and he is. 333 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: But then you watch that third round You're like, where the. 334 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: Fuck was this? 335 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: That beat that guy all the time? 336 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, he'd be a knight deal with How do 337 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: you heard a guy who's fucking Jason Voorhies like he is? 338 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 3: All right, we got to say this. Bobby Green pulls 339 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: off a monumental upset over Daniel zel Huber, who did 340 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: not look great. We'll talk about that in just a second, 341 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: but we were discussing this before the show. I gotta say, 342 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: when you watch Elliot Porria fighter, you watch Islam fight. 343 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: Obviously this is like the best the fighting can get, 344 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: and it's fucking great. But I'm being dead serious when 345 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: I say the thing that actually glues MMA fandom together 346 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: are guys who are never gonna fight for a title, 347 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: but have fucking swag and style and then the ability 348 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: to perform an awesome ways their hands, like like a 349 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: Matt Brown, like a Matt Brown is a great example 350 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: of this. And then fucking Bobby Green jed, that was 351 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: so cool, such a great performance, And I just feel 352 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: like those kinds of things stoke the flames of fandom 353 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: a lot more sometimes than other bigger fights. 354 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Dude a hundred, like that is the lifeblood of the sport, 355 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: like the sport can't. Yeah, you need stars, but you 356 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: need mid level stars. You need guys who people will 357 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: just be like, hell, yeah, that was fun. Like you 358 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: need Horry Moswital and that Bobby Green is. 359 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: Just Hory Moswitol totally. 360 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: But Horry Moswital got the ben askren Ko that sort 361 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: of launched him into superstar. If Bobby Green ever got 362 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: to fight like Nate Diaz and beat him, then then 363 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: he'd be in the same spot. That's you need guys 364 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: like this who just are popular, are fun. They're never 365 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: gonna fight for a belt. But we focused way too 366 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: much on titles in the sport anyway. It's like, well, 367 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: and we'll talk about that a little bit with the 368 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: BMF belt this weekend, because like, I really love the 369 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: BMF bel I think it's an awesome thing for the 370 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: for the moment, but that's that's it. It is an 371 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: awesome thing because it lets us. It lets us celebrate 372 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: guys who aren't the fucking champion, and sometimes it's okay 373 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: for us. 374 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: I just thought it was funny. But I'm yeah, Chuck, 375 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: what'd you think about old Bobby? It was cool to 376 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: see we were watching this fuckers and stripe for for us. 377 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: Even before that, dude, I was watching them in Afflictions 378 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: on Oh my God, the day man. I mean, the 379 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: dude has been at it and I I at that 380 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: point in time, I lived kind of and I edited 381 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: a paper out where he was at in San Bernardino area. 382 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: He lost a brother, do you remember that? And Uh, 383 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: there was a lot going on in his life. Dude, 384 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: he's a dog. I mean he's been he just keeps going. 385 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: I love when guys like this, and he's done this 386 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: a couple of times in the last few years where 387 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: you're like, Bobby Green, what you know why they throw them? 388 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: And then he'll just shock you and win a fight 389 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: like this going away and you're like, dude, and social 390 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: media like if you gauge just kind of like what 391 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: everybody's talking about. 392 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: They were talking about Bobby Green. 393 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: I didn't really did you see much about I mean, 394 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: Kevin I got like some love and stuff, but it 395 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: felt like the Bobby Green thing was what was going on. 396 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 4: So that's what to your point. I mean, he kind 397 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: of was. 398 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: The glue to that car, like he brought it to 399 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: life a little bit more totally. One thing I said 400 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: on social media, which it was a little bit I 401 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: guess controversial. 402 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really understand why is that. 403 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: I had pointed out like if you look at Green 404 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: and you look at Zelhuber's twenty six, I think Green thirty. 405 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Nine something like that. 406 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: The reality is, I'm seeing this often these days. The 407 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: young guy won't always beat the old guy, but the 408 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: young guy should more regularly beat the August Yeah, yeah, 409 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: and I look three twenty four man event, three twenty 410 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: five man event to a degree, UFC Houston Main Event. 411 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: You're just seeing a lot of this is by the way, 412 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: this is why you know it's true. It's happening across sports. 413 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Soccer players are getting older, basketball players are getting older. 414 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: Fighters are getting older too, and they're having their primes, 415 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: or at least ability to perform, highly lengthened. And you're 416 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: noticing some of these younger guys cannot break through. I'm 417 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: gonna be honest, Daniels, zel Hubert did not look good 418 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: to me at all. And you had a guy who 419 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, somewhat pour us defense, you know what I mean, 420 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: with his hands down here as opposed to being up here, 421 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: and he couldn't do shit to him. What do you 422 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: make of that, chuck, that so many young guys are 423 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: having a hard time breaking through. 424 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: If you agree with my thesis, there's a lot to it. 425 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: Maybe you know, like back in the day, like not 426 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 4: even that long ago. I say, back in the day, 427 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: it was a couple of years ago. We'd circled that 428 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 4: people at thirty five years old in the lighter divisions, 429 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: especially in title fights, right like they declined. 430 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: Fifty five and down. 431 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fifty five and down decline. And it feels 432 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: like since we've talked about this, you know, chev Chenko 433 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: for instance, shows up and just does work against Walian, 434 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: who's not that much younger. But like you know what 435 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like you're like, dude, she's not gonna this 436 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 4: is Whaley's moment, and chef Chenko plows through Dustin Poier 437 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: the and the ben Wa sin d fight where he 438 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: does I mean, these these types of things keep happening. 439 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: I think there is probably some kind of you know, 440 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 4: there might be a little bit of a talent gap. 441 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: I saw you actually talking about this, right, like, where 442 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 4: there's just a gap of experience. They're not winning on athleticism, 443 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: and sometimes I think it's it is a cerebral sort 444 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: of approach to it, where a guy like Sandinis just 445 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: in there trying to end the fight in the first 446 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 4: right and as soon as that doesn't work, it swings 447 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: to Porrier and he's able to do it. I mean 448 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: a lot of times just being out fox man, I think, 449 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: and I think that that's where like like guys like 450 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: Bobby Green being around the game, I mean nothing, they're 451 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 4: they're not bothered. They're not bothered by the situation. Who 452 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 4: brought more pressure on? 453 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Right? Like? 454 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: He goes into a situation like this, and you do 455 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: wonder guys like that who put on a crazy war 456 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: against what was his name, Revivich? 457 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeh, he went into that. 458 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean that fight was so ridiculous that sometimes he 459 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 4: hasn't looked the same since then. You wonder sometimes if 460 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 4: they lose something in a fight like that. 461 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jed, any thoughts. 462 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: I think one's it feels to me like a athleticism 463 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: is sort of because the it's not like Daniels Olhuber 464 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: is not some elite athlete, and so when the athleticism 465 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: gap isn't that big and one has like a much 466 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 2: bigger skill and sort of experience gap, that shows. But 467 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: also I just want to bring this up. Shout out 468 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: to Spinning Backfast on Twitter. Daniels old Kuber has now 469 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: lost as a minus four thirty favorite against Treyogden, a 470 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: minus nine hundred betting favorite against Michael Johnson Jesus, and 471 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: a minus four ten favorite against Bobby Green. Yeah, I 472 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: do you think big picture of lot's going on here? 473 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: But specifically Daniels oh Huber might. 474 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Have some problems. 475 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 4: That's crazy nuts that he's an underdog in his next fight. 476 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: You know, it depends who they put him against. 477 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: But if he's not bet on the other. 478 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: Gap any other highlights on that card, I mean, I 479 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: guess Aleen pet has one, if that matters to anybody. 480 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: Uh, Damian Pinos both because his name is super fun. 481 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: This guy can't stop talking about Dick. 482 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: That is a big strong So I'm. 483 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 4: Surrounded by no Panasa is gonna get big like he's 484 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: one of those guys that. 485 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: He's got blood coursing through his veins. I was gonna say, 486 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: you asked them care, but he did have a nice finish. 487 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: Javier Reys, I don't know what. 488 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: Let me explain him to you. So I follow a lot. 489 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: Of Colombian news on my feed, like Ribs, the Samana, 490 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: which is like their weekly magazine, and got a call, 491 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: which is like the normal radio station. And there's been 492 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: other Colombian fighters coming through and they've never caught on. 493 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: I don't know why. Like Freddy Serana was one of 494 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: the first big guys out of Columbia to make it 495 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: to the UFC off of tough Latin America and nobody 496 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: really cared there. For whatever reason, this dude has massively 497 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: broken through on that market. All of the top outlets 498 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: are covering him. I don't quite understand what the difference is, 499 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: but whatever, they love the guy. He had a nice 500 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: stoppage win, So I guess that's pretty cool. Anything else 501 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: with their long island that you want to shout out. 502 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 5: Dude, there was I mean, I want to diss your 503 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 5: boy real quick, because savi Arays was getting lit up 504 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: by my boy. 505 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 6: Douglas Silver Dan Drodge before he got caught himself. You know, 506 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: he wasn't looking that great. I just got to say that. 507 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: I didn't say he was looking amazing. I just said 508 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: they seem to love him on this media. 509 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: Fair enough, Jose Medina, I mean, this guy cannot be 510 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 5: on the roster. 511 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: I have a stat for you. I have a stat 512 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: for you. 513 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: UFC Mexico was the first card in twenty twenty six 514 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: where there was not a single pairing where both fighters 515 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: were coming off of a win. 516 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 6: That makes a lot of sense. 517 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: That explains not one, not one. 518 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 6: Mentioned on Friday's show, Dude. 519 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 5: Eleven of these thirteen fights had a minus two hundred 520 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 5: or greater favorite, so they were all very one sided. 521 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 5: I think Bobby Green and fuck there was one other underdog, Oh, 522 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 5: Regina Tyreen shout out to her. 523 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were the only two that one underdog. Oh 524 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 6: and Lonni Kapitol. 525 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Great. 526 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: All right, with that in mind, let's transition out. If 527 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: we can't to UFC three twenty six, let's talk, you 528 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: know what, let's let's retire the phrase one last time 529 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 3: because I actually hate this phrase and I've always hated it. 530 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: But just just to give BC one proper send off 531 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: from this because listen, if he comes back for a 532 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: pre game, he can do it. But if he's not 533 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: gonna be here, I'm going to retire it. All right, 534 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: it's time for real talk. Like you sounded just like that. 535 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 2: That's exactly how he says. 536 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: That's how he sounded in my ear every time he 537 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: did it. All right. 538 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 3: Putting that aside, let's open with the same kind of 539 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: question that we kind of always do with Jed. 540 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: Rates rank this card for me? How do you feel 541 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: about the USC three twenty six card? 542 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: This card is terrible. The main card sugar coat. 543 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: The main card looks like it could be a lot 544 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: of fun. 545 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: The main card is fun, and I'm very interested in 546 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: the main event, not because I think I will talk 547 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: about it. I think that fight's gonna be one way traffic, 548 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: but it's significant, like these are legends. It's great. Main 549 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: cards should be fun as opposed to last week, or 550 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: at least the undercard and the prelims had several fighters 551 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: that I was like high on or interested to see 552 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: their development. We just got some dudes. We got three 553 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 2: Cody's on this card. That's that's like, that's what's happening. 554 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: On this undercard. 555 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: So if you just that sounds like AMERICANJA Warrior. You 556 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: ever seen that? That's it. Cody's and Blairs all winning that thing. 557 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: If we if we had one Blaze, we'd really be 558 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: we'd have a lacrosse team. But yeah, it's just like 559 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: the prelims are. Nobody's going to tune in for those. 560 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: But the main card should be super fun and sometimes 561 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: it's okay to just have dessert. That's kind of what 562 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: we're getting. 563 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Chuck. 564 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: You you know, you just threw out an interesting set 565 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: about Mexico. Do you want to know an interesting one 566 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: about this? 567 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: Okay? 568 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: Outside of rabel Rod's house is twenty one, the youngest 569 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: guy is thirty three years old. On this main card, 570 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: it's like everybody is in there late mid to late thirties. 571 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Max is what thirty four? 572 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: How you know, go down to us? 573 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: Max is thirty four pushing fifty fight Well that's yeah. 574 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 4: He's actually one of the younger guys. But this continues 575 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 4: to happen because he started so young. You know, that's 576 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: just a it's just an interesting thing, you know, And 577 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, you can make of it what you want, 578 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: but I think a lot of times when you're talking 579 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 4: about the quality of a pay per view or like 580 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: a special event, you need a balance of guys who 581 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: are kind of coming up or people who are coming 582 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 4: up versus some of these guys and maybe like two 583 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: guys at their pinnacles or whatever. 584 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: We're not really getting that. 585 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: Before we jump into the BMF component of it, the 586 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: paramount component. I wonder if you guys feel about it. 587 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if this fight well, I'll ask there 588 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: have been some concerns that matchmaking in the paramount era, 589 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: when you're dealing with streaming demands, no paywall, it kind 590 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: of changes what you had with the pay per view model. 591 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Do you feel like this card is evidence of an 592 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: alteration in how the UFC standardly books cards or is it. 593 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: A little bit more? To me, it feels not distinct really, 594 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: but maybe you have a different opinion. 595 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna say no. One. It's so early in 596 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: the paramount experiment to be like, yeah, this is proof 597 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: that we suck now. Also, I we have the White 598 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: House hanging over it, like three hundred last year where 599 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: it was like okay, four sorry, twenty twenty four, you're right, 600 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: three hundred, where it was like Okay, we're robbing Peter 601 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: to pay Paul to build this big card. Maybe that 602 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: also explains why, like there is sort of a broader 603 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: drop as opposed to just in general, card quality has 604 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: gone down year every year. Give me more evidence. This 605 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: is a little too early to be like, yep, for sure, 606 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: this is proof that paramount is the death of fun. 607 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: Gotta be a little bit of a relief to the UFC. 608 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: You know, like when because last year, last couple of years, 609 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: you know, every pay per view, not every one of them, 610 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: but the weaker pay per views. You would just hear 611 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: it all week, like, dude, this pay per view sucks 612 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 4: because nobody wanted to, like nobody fork over for it. 613 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: And if you put it into that context, we would 614 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: be having that conversation right now. You'd be like, this 615 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: is definitely not a pay per view. 616 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this is better than the Volk Lopez. 617 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. 618 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 4: It might actually be better than some of the pay 619 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: per views that they've ran over the last couple of years. 620 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: But it's my favorite main event of the year so far. 621 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, but like just the board of 622 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: Patty gaging, but you know, getting it for paramount plus 623 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 4: and the like at a big numbered card. 624 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: We accept it. 625 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: And I agree with you, guys, I mean that to 626 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: get that fight, you know, BMF whatever, I'm like, it's 627 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: uh that it doesn't really matter. It's almost like a 628 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: boxing event in that way. Like you just you're like 629 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 4: kind of more focused on the very top. 630 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the BMF title, Jed, you 631 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: are a proponent of it. My view is basically that 632 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: the BMF title has the value that the matchups and 633 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: the fighters themselves instill in it. And for me, Max 634 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: Holloway is the first person to have already defended the 635 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: BMF title. This will be the second defense he's working 636 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: on here against somebody who I think is a perfect 637 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: candidate for this kind of thing. What is the value 638 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: of the BMF belt in your estimation. 639 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think the value is what the 640 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: fighters make of it, right, And that's why I like 641 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: it so far. If they start booking bullshit ask BMF fights, 642 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be out on it. Like that's just straight up. 643 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: But all the time in the sport, we talk about 644 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: celebrating fire who maybe aren't holding the belt, or at 645 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: least I do because I think that that has value, 646 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: and it is nice for this to be an avenue 647 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: to have a secondary title running that is not tied 648 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: into the mainstream title. The bm belt would be, in 649 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: my opinion, pretty stupid. Like if Eliotatoria had it because 650 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: he knocked out Max Holloway, Iliotaporia is maybe the very 651 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: best fighter on Earth right now. He doesn't need this 652 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: other thing, so don't give it to him. Let it 653 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: go to somebody else. But if they start just using 654 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: it to fill space with, like all right, Max beats 655 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: Charles Olivera and now he's fighting some random off the 656 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: Contender series, fuck it, that's trash. Get rid of get 657 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: rid of that. But if it is Max Holloway versus 658 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: justin Gaegee, Max hollow versus Charles Olivera, like legendary fighters 659 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: of note and substance, totally fine with him having, you know, 660 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: an intercontinental championship to celebrate that seems like a good 661 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: thing to me. 662 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: Jeff, you agree, yeah, And I mean if you're going 663 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: to have like what is the nective thread? You know, 664 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 4: when you talk about these bmf like what what constitute 665 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 4: they were just kind of like, well, these are the ogs, 666 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: are the people who've done this thing. But I think 667 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 4: these guys have something like and I'm sure Long Island 668 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: luken correct, but like sixty six combined fights, which is 669 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: ridiculous in the UFC, which is a ridiculous number of fights. 670 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 4: And if you you think about that, right, and then 671 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 4: you think about areas of perseverance, do you remember like 672 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: Charles olivera when he was coming up, like when he 673 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: got into the UFC, very young guy, he only went 674 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: five to four and one, you know, to start his career, 675 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: he had a ton of weight, like you know they 676 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: put some in there. He had a ton of problems 677 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: cutting weight, remember, like he was missing weight for him 678 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: to kind of rebound put together the career he's had 679 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 4: that you know, to me, that's like, okay, that's BMF 680 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: worthy like to be a champion, to have records all 681 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: over the place. And then you look at Max Hollywood, 682 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: you guys realize that we're this is the one hundredth 683 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: PA like one hundred like centennial, I guess from UFC 684 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: to twenty six to three twenty six when we were 685 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: worried about Max, when he went on that uh with 686 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: with Michael Bisbing UFC two twenty six and he said 687 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: are you okay? And we thought maybe he was already 688 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: punch drunk. Do you remember this, like course it was 689 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: a Fox Sports and it was a Fox Sports interview. 690 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: Was supposed to fight Makachev. I believe no, no, it's ada, 691 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: oh hippebe okay. No no no no no no take 692 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: no no no no no no. 693 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: Because it was Ortega. 694 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: It was the Habib when it was in New York 695 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: and I was there that right, I take it. Remember 696 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: he was coming he was coming up in weight, so 697 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: he was less weight. They just they couldn't they couldn't 698 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: get a pass it. 699 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: So he was he was gonna he was gonna fight 700 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: or Tega didn't end up happening because they they because 701 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: of the way appeared, we thought he was done, dude. 702 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: And if you look at the seven eight years that 703 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 4: intervene and what he's been able to do, it's just 704 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: strict perseverance. It's straight dog. So when you put these 705 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: two guys together, that's what speaks right. 706 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: The UFC, I think last weekend put up a graphic 707 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: I'm looking at it here and the question was who 708 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: is the baddest. So what I'm going to tell you 709 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: are stats that either of them have that puts them 710 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: in the top ten in UFC history. Okay, Ma Holloway 711 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: twenty three, wins OLVERA twenty four wins UFC finishes out 712 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: thirteen for Max, twenty one for Charles. Performance Awards, thirteen 713 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: for Max twenty one for Charles Significant strikes only Max 714 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: qualifies at motherfucking three thousand, six hundred and fifty five. 715 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 3: Submission attempts only Charles qualifies at forty seven. 716 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: That's insane, man. You should put a belt on guys 717 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: like this, Yes, you know what I mean. 718 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: And then maybe it's not the most prestigious belt, bitch ass, 719 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: but it's a belt that we on our line. 720 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: They both won a fucking undisputed title before they've both 721 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 6: earned there too. Yeah, so they've had a belt. 722 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Raptor We don't mean, what's the crime then? All right? 723 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 6: So I feel stupid every time I argue against this, 724 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: because it feels like I'm. 725 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: Like, are because you are stupid? 726 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: No, because it feels like I'm stupid self aware. 727 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 6: I'm not against the fighters making more money. I get it. 728 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 6: It's beneficial to them, So in that case, I'm all 729 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 6: for it. But the idea of just some fucking stupid. 730 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 6: They're all bad motherfuckers, they're all professional fighters, Like, what 731 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 6: do we what is this? 732 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if Zell Huber's I gotta tell you 733 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: and Trollo Era are not of the same thing. 734 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: But I also feel like it gives them an excuse to, like, 735 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 5: like we're talking about how bad this card is, Like 736 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 5: you put two legends at the top of it, it 737 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: almost like becomes a Connor card now where they're like, oh, well, 738 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 5: the main event, we know people are gonna be here for, 739 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 5: so we'll just fill it in with whatever other bullshit 740 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: we got. I want to look ahead to fucking three 741 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: twenty seven, dude in April. 742 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: That card is stacked. I'm talking prelimbs. 743 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: This is excellent, all of that. 744 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: This fast. It goes against your argument, though, because three 745 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: twenty seven has a like a true title fight at 746 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: the top and they still put good other fights on it, 747 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: Like that's not why this is happening. 748 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm saying though, that that this shouldn't even be 749 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 5: in the main event. They should have a real title 750 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 5: fight in the main event. There should be a fucking 751 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 5: five round comin or something. 752 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: This is a great fight, I mean I'm not talking 753 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: about Max Holloway and Charles Levera in the same way 754 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: I'm talking about Bobby Green. But I'm with Jed in 755 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: this sense, which is there's got to be a way 756 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: to honor people in MMA who contribute so much, right 757 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: when they're not necessarily at the championship level at that moment. Yeah, yeah, 758 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just sneeze. I apologize. 759 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: It's like I don't I'd rather this be happening than like, oh, Okay, 760 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna have this same fight and it's a great fight, 761 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: it's legends, we love it, and it's the main event 762 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: of UFC in Houston. 763 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck that. 764 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: And and you were talking about this too, like you 765 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: were pointing out, like, man that you put like three 766 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: posts together with Gina Carano and uh, you know, employd 767 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: Mayweather and all these and you're like, it's not it 768 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: doesn't belong in that group at all, because these are 769 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: these are guys who are still relevant to the title pictures, 770 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: like the real title pictures. It's not like they've they've 771 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: slipped off. And you're like, Okay, we're just gonna throw 772 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: the legends in there, and we have a symbol a 773 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: symbol on. 774 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: One side and the other guy Beatty's gamrot. 775 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Like to be fair, Chuck. If Ronda Ralsey stepped in, 776 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if you watched Eileen pres versus me Jason, 777 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: but she could probably make a run at women's band 778 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: and weight right now. 779 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: That is also a truth. 780 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: I just I just think that having some kind of 781 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: award to honor people who make the fight game special, 782 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: whatever however you want to package that, I'm always. 783 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Going to be in favor of that. 784 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: It's the horm what's the Yeah, and they get more money, right, yeah, 785 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 4: there's still more money, they get more do it? 786 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: Well? 787 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean you know what we should be asked? I 788 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: don't know how that works with the BMF in the 789 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: new era. 790 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: Well that was my understanding. Let's say I don't know. 791 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: So assuming that there's something to that, then yes, that'd 792 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: be great. All right, But let's talk about the fight itself. 793 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: You think it's gonna be one way traffic, who's directing it? 794 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: And why? 795 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I think Max Holloway is about to beat the soul 796 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: out of Charles Aver there. 797 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: Do you think? 798 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: So? 799 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: You think that Oliver's washed? 800 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he's washed, because, like I I was 801 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: genuinely super concerned about the Gamera fight like it was. 802 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: It was a real quick turnaround from getting cold at 803 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: by Ilia and he just put the lumbered matouche like 804 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: that was super impressive, And like the biggest takeaway I 805 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: have for this whole fight is God damn, these dudes 806 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: are awesome, because, like like Truck said, man like I 807 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: have been burying Max Holloway four years because he is 808 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: doing something that we never see. He has been fighting 809 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: at the top level for well over a decade, and 810 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 2: you usually start to see people declining, and I do 811 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: think Max is declining a little bit. But I think 812 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: this move up to lightweight is huge for him. I 813 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: think it has helped him. Like he has more power 814 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 2: just straight up, like he drops Dustin Poorie in there 815 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: in that of their third fight in the first round. 816 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: And I'm genuinely like interested to see his lightweight run 817 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: to a point where I would pick Iliota Poria to 818 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: beat him if they end up running it back, but 819 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: at one fifty five, if he gets this win, like 820 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: maybe I'm more interested in seeing that because Max with 821 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: power which he never really had at featherweight. It was 822 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: an accumulation of damage like he's got pop in his 823 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: shots now, and I think that's just hugely problematic for 824 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: Charles who's never had a great chin. Charles has lost 825 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: you can check me along on I think he's lost 826 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: eleven fights, and nine of them he's been stopped. Like 827 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: he he's not durable in the way we usually think 828 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: of durability, and I think that just means Max is 829 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 2: gonna run over his ass. 830 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, my favorite Max too. Like I just think that 831 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: he's one of those guys like it's almost it's like 832 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: a muscle memory type thing. Once he starts getting into 833 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 4: a rhythm, Like you just see him get into a rhythm, 834 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: and like we saw that with the Justin Gatgee fight, 835 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 4: and I feel like he'll find that with him, you know, 836 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: I just feel like he's gonna find it. And he's 837 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: he's so good when he starts to do it. You 838 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 4: know you've talked about this. He makes adjustments, he's so 839 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: good when he starts to really get his timing and 840 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 4: his and you know, he gets in like you said, 841 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 4: he's carrying more power. I just envision as scenario where 842 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 4: he's finding that stuff and that's very hard to overcome. 843 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 4: I and I would do think if you're looking at 844 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 4: which guy might be declining at a rapid, you know 845 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: whatever rate, I would say that to me, Olivera hasn't 846 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: looked as good. Maybe you have a different opinion of that, 847 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 4: but but I think Olivera looks a little bit like 848 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: he's slipping at a faster rate than than Max's. 849 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: He gets hit a lot too, man, Yeah. 850 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean Max mexic Ha's hit a lot too. Yeah. 851 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: Just it's he's you mentioned burying Max at two twenty six, 852 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: how about two seventy six. That was the third time 853 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 3: in a row, or well the third time ultimately he'd 854 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: lost to Volkanovsky. 855 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, dude, that's. 856 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 4: I know, we eulogized, We've eulogized him like three or 857 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 4: four times in his career, are and that's crazy. 858 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: To do what he did against Gates three hundred. You're like, dude, 859 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 3: this guy is beyond when he's one. 860 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: Of the ten greatest fighters of all time. That's my take, 861 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: and I think so, which is insane because I think 862 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: three of the ten greatest fighters of all time are 863 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: featherweight Josie Aldo, alegend Volkanowski, Max Holiday. Three of my 864 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: top ten fighters all time. 865 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: I was just saying, when he gets when he gets going, man, 866 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 4: when he's really wrong, Like you're just mentioning that Calvin 867 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 4: Cator fight, for instance, where he's just laying it's on ABC. 868 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 4: It's a big it's a big deal in that sense, 869 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: and he's just what was it four hundred strikes? 870 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: It was a ridiculous number of strikes? Seven hundred. 871 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: It was like talking ship in the middle of whip 872 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 2: in this. 873 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: Like sometimes and then punches out and then turning over 874 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 3: and talking. 875 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: Looking at Dana. I'm better than this fucking bump. 876 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 4: I mean, he's had so many gangster type moments, you know, it's. 877 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: Just the point out, the iconic pointdown. 878 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the point down. He's certainly a special What does 879 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: a win like he did the same thing in either case? 880 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: What does a win? Jed get the get the victor here. 881 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 2: My undying love and respect? Is that not enough? 882 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 3: Okay, but let's let's get to it. I mean both 883 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: of their resumes. I mean, the reality is their best 884 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: work is probably already done. 885 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: Is it a de facto title shot? 886 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: No, because it got more interesting after Saturday. I don't 887 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: think Armin Seruki losing his mind and punching an influencer. 888 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 2: Point is like, I don't think if. 889 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: We can get armand to just punch influencers, that's a 890 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: net win. 891 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 4: Miller's show back in the day when he was just 892 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: make a new version of that, I'm just beating up 893 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 4: in just due that would be influencer. He goes around 894 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 4: with him all the time, and I. 895 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: Don't think that's going to be determinative. I don't think 896 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: the like, if the UFC chooses they can use that 897 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: as an excuse, but like, see he's a lose can 898 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: and we can't do it. I don't think they're gonna 899 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 2: do that, but maybe they do if it gets us Max, 900 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: you know versus justin two, depending on what Illy is doing, 901 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: Like maybe Iliot. I think Ilia is going to defend 902 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: the belt. It seems like that's happening, but who knows. 903 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: In this modern world of the UC, maybe they just 904 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: say f it and they do an Islam fight and 905 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 2: so then then sure, like the UC doesn't seem invested 906 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: in Arman as a lightweight challenger, which is I think insane. 907 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: I think he's the best light what on earth. But 908 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: I would have said before this past weekend, no, the 909 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: winners just can't really fight for a title. Now, I'm like, 910 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: maybe they can use this an excuse and do it. 911 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 4: I was gonna say that that both dudes are so 912 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 4: popular and especially with recency buys. If Max Holloway does 913 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 4: something again, right, it does against Charles Olivera in this moment, 914 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 4: you know how this is gonna work. 915 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well he's meaning. 916 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: But both of these guys got three hundred by Ilia. 917 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: They both got true, it is true. I'll say this 918 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 3: if Max, this is not going to happen. But if 919 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: Max were to submit him. 920 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: That would be kind of interesting. That would be kind 921 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: of novel. 922 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 2: At least Max and Ilia was like a fun competitive 923 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 2: fight before. There is no reason to do Ilia Charles again, 924 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: just none. So if Charles wins, then no, But if 925 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: Max wins, I'd still say it's lower than fifty. But 926 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 2: it's not a zero percent chance that he is fighting 927 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: for a title here. 928 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but someone's gotta fight Gaichie. 929 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: You had Oh if Geichie is the guy. If Ilia 930 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: moves in, the winner of this is fighting Gaeichie for 931 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: the belt. 932 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: And both of these guys already beaten stop her. You know, 933 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy and but look good doing it too. 934 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: The other thing to consider here is if they go 935 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: with the gai chi ilia route by who knows if 936 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: they do, because you had I think you guys see 937 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: this morning, I think ali A Delas was tweeting like, oh, 938 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 3: there's a big thing for Islam coming, and you know, 939 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 3: managers say stuff, so. 940 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: Who any specific was like, it's not. 941 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: So who knows if that means they're going to do 942 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 3: islam ilia or you know what, what thing they're going 943 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: to pull up. 944 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, Poeton, no, we're not. That's something 945 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: that crazy. But for just a second, for a. 946 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: Moment, I was like, well, that'd be kind of fun. 947 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: It would be as long as it lasted anyway. But 948 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: I think the reality is with this one, it's not 949 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 3: de facto title shot. But I don't I definitely don't 950 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: think you can rule it out. 951 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 4: No, you can't, dude. It's too popular. Max is so 952 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 4: I mean Charles too, like it goes home now. 953 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: And also, by the way, for nothing like Max is American, 954 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: they're going to bos American profiles if he goes out 955 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 3: there and does something. 956 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see was a Brindon shop saying very 957 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 4: recently that Sean Strickland is the what American needs, like 958 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 4: that that guy that American needs. I was like, he's 959 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 4: the guy that American gets. 960 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: America. 961 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: What America doesn't have right now is somebody like Sean 962 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: Strickland in a public eye. We we just don't have 963 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: enough of that. 964 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 1: There's not enough. 965 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a good point though, I'm only raising 966 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 4: it because you mentioned that he's obviously American. 967 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: He's very accomplished. But yeah, I mean, but for me, 968 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: Max still sits in a place where he is, i think, 969 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 3: very useful to the promotion beyond this fight, whereas Olivera 970 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: has some utility, but it's not quite the same. If 971 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: that makes now the loser here, does it? 972 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: Does it? Does it really hurt their stock? Really? 973 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: They're they're they're bona fide like they're made men already 974 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: like it? It sucks because the loser is out of 975 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: any title aspirations for real, like that, that is the 976 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: death knell of their title aspirations. 977 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: Are relatively young too, for the amount. 978 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: Of fighters considering how doing this, Yeah, yeah. 979 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 4: I mean it's that's that's crazy. And Charles can just 980 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 4: go on patting his record right, his records. 981 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: He could just go on. He can beat a lot 982 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: of guys. 983 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 2: He can just contin I mean, he could still even 984 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: beat like elite dudes, you know, like just maybe not 985 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: Max because Max is also elite. But like, yeah, the 986 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: loser just doesn't get to fight for a belt anymore, 987 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: and they'll be sad about that, because fighters are always 988 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: sad when that happens. But Charles Oliveric can headline every 989 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: trip to Rio and beat the brakes off of Ludovit 990 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: Klein or whoever the hell it is, I'll be fine. 991 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, or end up on some Netflix undercard. One 992 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: never knows. 993 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about that co main event. Kyle Bihalio enters 994 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 3: this contest taken on Renier DeRidder or Rynier to rittor 995 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 3: if he pronounced his first name properly. 996 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: I've heard a. 997 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 2: Pronounce penny a soft ar. 998 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: What is it? 999 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: Okay, he's Dutch, not French or whatever. The thing that's 1000 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 3: interesting about this one we talked about the Mexico card, 1001 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: where there was no pairing where both were. 1002 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Coming off of a win. Here's a pairing where they're 1003 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: both coming off of losses, Chuck, and they were both 1004 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: kind on the rock. 1005 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 3: Both guys. Both guys were on that path. We're like, Okay, 1006 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: here we go. One of these guys is gonna fight 1007 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: for a title. And then not only did they lose, well, 1008 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: the rider had more of an epic collapse because he 1009 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 3: quite literally quit in the middle of a fight, which 1010 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm not judging. 1011 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it did happen, but. 1012 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 2: Don't talk about my boy like, but I'm saying. 1013 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 3: He miscalculated his own body's ability to put the schedule 1014 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 3: through that he wanted to. It just didn't work, and 1015 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 3: Baholio didn't look like terrible, but he felt a part 1016 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 3: of it's. 1017 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: Been excited too. What's what's going on here? 1018 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, but like it's crazy what a 1019 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 4: year can do. Because I remember talking to the whole 1020 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 4: fighting nerds, that whole collective out in Miami, like in April, 1021 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 4: right like in April, they were high, alm are flying high. 1022 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 4: They'll never break up and none of them have lost you. 1023 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 4: Now we're going to be friends forever. I mean, it 1024 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 4: was like that they had like the little bracelets. No, 1025 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 4: they didn't have that, but they had the glasses that 1026 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 4: united them. But you cut forward ten months, every one 1027 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 4: of those guys is lost. But I think there was 1028 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: a big emphasis and and hoof he's gone, and hoof 1029 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 4: he is gone, Like he's in Australia at the time. 1030 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 4: He was trying to go to New Hampshire, Like he 1031 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 4: was telling me, I'm going to go to New Hampshire. 1032 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 4: Oh you man, my necka woods. But he was clearly 1033 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 4: on his way out of this. But man, Kyle, I 1034 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 4: think that if you asked any of them, they're like, 1035 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: he's going to be the first champion of this of 1036 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 4: this unit. And I was like, you know, because he's 1037 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 4: kind of the he's the real mathematical nerdy dude, like 1038 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 4: he looks at fights, his equations and like he solves 1039 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 4: these guys. And he lost a ton of steam. Man, 1040 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 4: it just didn't look it wasn't it was. I didn't 1041 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 4: feel like he put his best foot forward, you know, 1042 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 4: in terms of yeah, and then he was and he's 1043 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 4: in his backyard right that was in Paris, So I 1044 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 4: mean it was a bad setup. So the intrigue would 1045 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 4: be then you know now that he's now that that 1046 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 4: test because Volkanovsky, remember he was in like Puerto Rico 1047 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 4: and all that before he lost a fight and we're 1048 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 4: like dude, what he was traveling all this? You gotta 1049 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 4: like when he lost the Mack Jeff fight. Sometimes you're like, 1050 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 4: when they reset and they come back. 1051 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: What do they look like? 1052 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 4: I guess that's the intrigue to me. Is he gonna 1053 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: look like the guy who was the contender or you know, 1054 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 4: is it gonna be one of those moments you're like, Okay, 1055 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 4: he maybe he never was. He was off to what 1056 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 4: was it seven? And oh he was. He was undefeated 1057 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 4: in the UFC. He came on the Contender series, looked good. 1058 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 4: So I was still pretty high on him. 1059 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: You know. 1060 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm still pretty high on him, like 1061 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 4: doing something and this should be a good test for 1062 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 4: him against your. 1063 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 2: Guy, my guy, Yeah, my beautiful bozo. Yeah, uh Renier 1064 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 2: de Ritter. I love him like a son, like I've 1065 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: never met the man, and I would take a bullet 1066 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 2: for him. He's just a member of my family. 1067 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: He's a big I would a bullet for my family. 1068 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: Always be clear about that, they're all going to die. 1069 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: I really hope your wife and child, everyone else. 1070 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: You gonna have a the rest of the hit by 1071 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: the drive by shooter. 1072 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm not going to take the train home and the 1073 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: locks are going to be changed. That dude, he's just 1074 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 2: a beautiful violence idiot and I love him for it 1075 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: because he's not athletically gifted at all. It's huge, but 1076 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 2: this is not a man. How far down the list 1077 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: of adjectives would it take you to get to the 1078 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: word coordinated? If you're talking about running, you know, it's 1079 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 2: just it's not what he does. And but he's super effective, 1080 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: So why does he win? Because his game is put 1081 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: together very well. Like that's why I love him. It's 1082 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: why I have so much respect for him, because, like, 1083 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: he does win a lot on size at middleweight, but 1084 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: he obviously had plenty of success at two of five 1085 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: as well. He was the former one champion. But the 1086 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: rest of his game just kind of once used Grandpappy's 1087 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: musket as a bong. 1088 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: I think those are BC leftover, literally. 1089 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 6: Just this old a bunch of I forgot. 1090 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: I haven't even looking at those. 1091 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 2: Shout out to you, BC, because his game is weird 1092 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 2: and he does stuff that other people don't. He attacks 1093 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: the body more than most MMA fighters do, and that 1094 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: is like a huge weapon form and when he does 1095 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 2: get on top of he his hell on wheels there 1096 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 2: like I know he lost to Brendan Allen. I personally 1097 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 2: think he lost to Brendan Allen because he cut weight 1098 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: five times in twelve months and it's a lot of weight. 1099 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 4: He walks awke and a fast escalation. Yeah, like guys 1100 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 4: you know Whittaker before that it was like bow Nickel, 1101 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 4: which everbody thought he'd lose. 1102 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a crazy escalation. Who did he 1103 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: let me? Because he had the GM three fighters and 1104 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Holland. 1105 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 2: Kevin Holland, right, bo Nickel, Robert Whittaker, Fluffy and Nanda 1106 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: or not Fluffy, Brendan Allen and like he cuts a 1107 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: ton of weight and to do that five Kevin hall 1108 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: once is like an enormous task the body. And I 1109 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 2: felt you saw that in the fight, Like he he 1110 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 2: kicked Brennan Allen's ass in the first round. 1111 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: I thought he faded down the stretch against Whittaker two. 1112 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: He definitely did a little bit, though I thought he 1113 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: won the fifth round he just kind of gritted it 1114 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: out on it, but he definitely faded. If you're a 1115 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: guy who's cutting that much weight over five rounds, you 1116 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 2: were probably going to fade. I think that explains the 1117 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: Brendan Allen Loss Like to me, I could be wrong 1118 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: because I'm a unabashed to understand, but like I'm interested. 1119 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: He's had more time. This is not like a super 1120 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 2: quick turnaround. He should be able to make this way 1121 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: more effectively. But I do think Kyle Broyle presents a 1122 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: very interesting test for him, right, Like, this is a 1123 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: dude who's a very good grappler in his own right, 1124 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 2: and that is the strength of r DR's game. I 1125 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: would say Kyle is a better striker, like he's more 1126 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 2: effective with his hands certainly, But I think this is 1127 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: a really good fight man, and I'm pretty. 1128 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 4: Pumpedan artists, Like that's the surprising thing. And I didn't 1129 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 4: watch him a ton like going back, but his striking 1130 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 4: is it's been surprisingly good to be you. 1131 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 2: Know, it is not pretty, but it does what. It's 1132 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: like hobibe and they're like nobody would say this is 1133 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: when the beauty contest. 1134 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 3: He can't get away with his feet, Like he literally 1135 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 3: cannot escape with his feet. So rather than doing that, 1136 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 3: that's when he meets people with knees, he'll just he'll 1137 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: just accept the pressure. 1138 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: And then cop you for it. It's like I kind 1139 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: of like that dude. 1140 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 2: It's a It is a very tactical I call him 1141 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 2: and d DP tactical bozos because they're not like the 1142 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: most athletic dudes. But their games they will clearly spend 1143 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: He do you think he's very He's very physical, but 1144 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 2: he's not like explosive. 1145 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: He's not going to have great numbers at the commed. 1146 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: He's not going to do at the combine. Maybe on 1147 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 2: bench press, you know, like their games, they clearly have 1148 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time thinking about how the composite 1149 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 2: parts will fit and building a fully throated game. And 1150 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 2: so I love him and I hope he kicks the 1151 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: ship out. 1152 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 1: Of It's interesting, right because I'm Jackson. 1153 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: There are a few fighters that I am not objective 1154 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 2: about already, R d DP or two of them. If 1155 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 2: if my two children ever fight, I will love it 1156 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 2: more than anything. 1157 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. 1158 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 3: You know what's kind of interesting is we we saw 1159 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 3: Striggling breakthrough, and we saw Imovov breakthrough, but the other 1160 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 3: guys all fell apart. If Fluffy fell apart and these 1161 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 3: two guys fell apart, these two guys are just a 1162 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 3: little bit ahead of Fluffy in the Redemption Tour to 1163 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 3: what extent do you still think it's possible for either 1164 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 3: of these guys to actually contend for and maybe even 1165 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 3: win a title. How damaging were the losses that derailed 1166 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 3: their contendership rise. 1167 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,479 Speaker 4: I would yeah, I think Yo, in my mind would 1168 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 4: be closer. 1169 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: But obviously I think I agree it's only was more 1170 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: well rounded. But I got to say, there's a little 1171 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: RDR magic in the air. 1172 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 4: Something I felt like if Ayr, I mean the last fight, 1173 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 4: if he wins, you felt like, well, du he's made 1174 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 4: his case right like he was there. 1175 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: He was he was there. Here's the other thing about 1176 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 2: already are I I'm actually interested in the fight already 1177 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 2: said that. I was sad that when it got announced 1178 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: because once already are lost. Even if I think it's explicable, 1179 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: I was like, dude, just go to two a five. 1180 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 2: You cut way too much weight anyway, if you want 1181 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: to be this active, go to a way class where 1182 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 2: you have to cut last two of five is garbage, 1183 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: like total to your us, your words, boss, just absolutely 1184 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: trash totally. So like, go up fight Dominic Reyez, You'll 1185 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: probably be Dominic Reez and then you're like one went 1186 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: away for a title fight. So even if Aardyr loses 1187 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: on Saturday, he could just jump up and it is 1188 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 2: not a long road to fight Urie Prashka, like it 1189 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 2: is a very short path to get there. So I 1190 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 2: would say that neither of their title aspirations are totally 1191 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 2: dead with a loss on Saturday, I do. I think 1192 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 2: I agree with Chuck though that like Kyo is probably 1193 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: closer because there is an undercurrent to RDR that's just 1194 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: like this is fun but not like real. 1195 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 4: That's still it's a little gimmicky. Yeah, for some reason. 1196 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 4: I mean he's kind of Once he beat the Whittaker 1197 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 4: and Nickel, I was sort of like, all right, wait 1198 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 4: a minute, Yeah, it's not a novelty act here, you know. 1199 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: It's like this is a real legit guy. 1200 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 3: By the way, uh, Bajalio just turned thirty three. RDR 1201 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 3: a little bit different, not too much older, but I 1202 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 3: think enough to pay attention to thirty five years in 1203 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 3: six months, so he'll be thirty six pretty soon. 1204 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 2: We'll get at two oh five. That's a young man 1205 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 2: that is a prospected. 1206 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: Like anyway, Yes, I'm just saying, if you're gonna make 1207 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: a move two two oh five, or I should say 1208 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll move back to two oh five clocks A little 1209 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: bit ticking on that one. How do you like the 1210 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: betting on this one? Uh long Island. 1211 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 6: I was pretty surprised to actually see the odds. 1212 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 5: It's like minus two ninety right now bohoio plus two 1213 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 5: thirty five dr raise and I feel like in a 1214 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 5: three round fight, especially like a favorite RDR, more than 1215 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 5: I would in probably a five round fight. 1216 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 6: And yeah, those are odds are too juicy. I think 1217 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 6: I gotta go RDR on this one. 1218 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: All right, before we get to the third fight on 1219 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 3: this card, let's let's talk about. 1220 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: Our friends at DK Sportsbook. 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It might that might also be true. 1252 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: They might also heard that, but I always called it feature. 1253 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 3: I had a promoter years ago explained to it used 1254 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 3: to be called the future fight. But they're kind of 1255 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 3: moving away from it, all right, But it's an interesting 1256 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 3: fight just the same. 1257 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 4: It's not like Netflix where they're calling, uh what do 1258 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 4: they called it? That they were saying that the Comaine 1259 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 4: is the headlining comain headlining the comin event. 1260 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: Was yes, it's like, how do you headline the number 1261 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: two position? 1262 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 3: So whatever it is, I mean, it's also. Eric mcgracken 1263 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 3: of Combat Sportslaw made a. 1264 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: Very nerdy joke on Twitter. 1265 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 3: He was like, if if one is the comine, then 1266 00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 3: they're both technically the co main, right, Dad Joe, it's. 1267 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: A very dad Joe. Are we there yet? All right? 1268 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about it cold. 1269 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 4: Enough out there for you. 1270 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: Why don't you lick my balls? All right? 1271 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 3: Rob font is taking on Raoul Rosas junior. This is 1272 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 3: clearly chuck a who's coming, who's going kind of fight. 1273 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 3: Rob font a very very talented, certainly highly experienced veteran. 1274 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: He's got not quite forty but well over third. No 1275 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: excuse me. 1276 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 3: I think he's got thirty one fights to his record. 1277 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 3: Ral Rosas Junior. Again, everyone and their brother being like, oh, 1278 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 3: he's a prodigy. 1279 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: No he's not. No he's not. That's not what a 1280 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 1: prodigy means. 1281 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,479 Speaker 3: However, he is young, he is talented, and the question is, Chuck, 1282 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 3: does he have just the kind of game to give 1283 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 3: Rob Font, who has a forty three percent takedown defensive rate, 1284 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 3: a ton of problems? 1285 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 4: I think so Rosas he was seventeen, right, he was 1286 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 4: seventeen on his debut. Maybe so I think he was seventeen. 1287 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: In my head. I I'll tell you. I'll tell you 1288 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: him just a second, because you mean his UFC. 1289 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 2: Debut, Yeah, you was it four years ago. 1290 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: I bring it up on his Contender series. 1291 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 4: Isn't that nut? So, like, he's seventeen years old, Rob 1292 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 4: Font was seventeen years old when he was born. Isn't 1293 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 4: that the weird? I was thinking about this. I was 1294 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 4: like Jesus, like that is a that is a very 1295 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 4: weird stat when you think about like Rob would have 1296 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 4: won that fight, Yes, he would have. 1297 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 2: At the time. Rob Wood fights baby, baby, Dana fights babies. 1298 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 3: I will I will say that was the one retort. 1299 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 3: Had he heard how he's like, all right, well that's 1300 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 3: a weird Okay, No, but. 1301 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 4: I do think that you know, if you're building a guy, 1302 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 4: and again I don't know did they explain why he 1303 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 4: wasn't on Mexico City, I know that you can't. You 1304 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 4: got to distribute the talent where it is. This card 1305 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 4: would suffer it. 1306 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 2: I don't don't. 1307 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 4: But anyway, I think that you give him a guy 1308 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 4: like Rob font who's who's hovered around. I think he's 1309 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 4: retained the respect. We mentioned this before. He's one of 1310 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 4: those guys. He's one of those glue guys to a card. 1311 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 4: He's always gonna be kind of in that top ten space, 1312 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 4: like he's gonna beat occasional good guys. He's gonna lose 1313 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 4: some fights and h but he has a name. He 1314 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 4: hasn't just enough of a name of a veteran where 1315 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 4: you're like, okay, here's a here's a litmus test for 1316 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 4: this young guy coming up. You get through him, and 1317 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 4: obviously now we can you have a bigger playing field, 1318 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 4: a bigger legitimacy to deal with, right, So it's that 1319 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 4: moment for him. I think he's only twenty one years 1320 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 4: old Rosaso. Again, this is still very young. I think 1321 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 4: Max when he debuted was only twenty. So this dude 1322 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 4: being a veteran, I guess so if you want to 1323 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 4: call him that at twenty one is crazy, right. 1324 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 2: Freaking nuts man, It's and I feel old. They've I 1325 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 2: think Ross about to win this fight, but they've tried 1326 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: to barry Rob Faughan a bunch before. 1327 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: That's true. 1328 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 2: They tried Adrian he was supposed to know. 1329 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 1: That was a huge one. 1330 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Rob, Rob put him back, you know, Kyler Phillips. 1331 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 2: Rob put him back. Joan Masmoto who I thought one, 1332 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 2: But no issue with the decision. Like he has consistently, 1333 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 2: to your point about lightweight right, like he has consistently 1334 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 2: finded off the new guard. Now David Martinez got him, well, 1335 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 2: a Roaster Junior get him. Like that's it's really good 1336 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 2: matchmaking as far as I'm concerned, Even if I think 1337 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 2: I know the outcome, are we what's. 1338 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 3: The temperature check on? Like rosas future star of the sport. 1339 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 3: Someone hit Hinges on this a little bit. Who was 1340 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 3: the dude that beat Chase Hooper? Like, uh do you remember? 1341 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: It was? 1342 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 4: Like but there was like, you know, Chase Hooper was 1343 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 4: I always kind of think of him in a in 1344 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 4: a way. That was probably because he was so baby faced, 1345 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 4: like he had like the he had a look of 1346 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 4: a very young guy, even though I. 1347 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: Mean he looked like not now, but first when the 1348 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 3: U s Chase Super looked like a guy who was like, 1349 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 3: serve you ice cream in a month, I. 1350 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: Be insulting. I mean he would admit it, like he 1351 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: played that role of that be as but I forgot 1352 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: about that. But they but like his. 1353 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 5: First pro loss was Bruce Leroy, Is that are you 1354 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 5: thinking of that? 1355 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 1: Because the other there's another dude. 1356 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 5: So he lost to Alex wants to Stephen Peterson, and 1357 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 5: he lost to Steve Garcia and then his most recent 1358 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 5: bout he lost to Alexander hernandez oh, I forgot he 1359 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 5: just but. 1360 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 4: When he lost, it was like okay, because it's not 1361 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 4: like they were treating It was kind of the youthful 1362 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 4: idea of him, right that people are like, you kind 1363 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 4: of fall in love with this idea of this kid 1364 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 4: in this crazy sport in cage novelty a novelty, but 1365 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 4: it goes away once you kind of start losing and 1366 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 4: that's what kind of happened. I don't know, Like you 1367 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 4: keep mentioning this that people get confused with a guy 1368 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 4: who gets his start very early and he breaks through 1369 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 4: early being an actual phenom or something like that, And 1370 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 4: that is a good distinction because I think that a 1371 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 4: lot has to be seen before you can actually say it. 1372 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 4: He can still be a phenom at twenty two if 1373 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 4: he goes right through you know, Rob Font, and then 1374 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 4: the next guy's an escalation from that and he goes 1375 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 4: through him. 1376 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe starts. 1377 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 4: To earn that distinction, but right now he's just a 1378 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 4: guy who got a very I mean he was good enough, right, 1379 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 4: precocious enough to get an early start in his career. 1380 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: I mean that's that's like a perfect point because if 1381 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 2: we knew nothing about him and this was his debut 1382 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 2: and he goes and runs over Rob Fond at twenty two, 1383 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: you're still like, holy shit, Yeah that kid is twenty 1384 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 2: two and just cooked Rob Font. So I think to 1385 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 2: that point, Luke like, yeah, he could still be there. 1386 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: But to answer your specific question, he's going to be 1387 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 2: a star because the UFC is insisting on him being 1388 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 2: a star. They are building him and have been looking 1389 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 2: day one charismatic. 1390 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm not even Faunt beats him. 1391 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if Font beats him, you can still just 1392 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 2: be like, well, least twenty two we still have a 1393 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 2: decade for I don't think one. Sorry twenty one, I'm 1394 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: sorry twenty one. I'm aging aging. 1395 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: The problem with signing young guys. 1396 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you guys know this really well, 1397 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 3: but like the promise signing young guys is, dude, you 1398 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 3: cannot really develop them in the UFC. Like that is 1399 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 3: one of the things that was interesting about Bellator. Remember 1400 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 3: when h a j McKee one, they were like, oh, 1401 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 3: we pro debut to be beating Patricio Pitbull. But in 1402 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 3: Bellator you kind of you can play the levels because 1403 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 3: there card is basically a regional card every single time, 1404 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 3: and even some of the guys on the main card 1405 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 3: are just you know, highly beatable. Yes, the the very 1406 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 3: very top Millitar guys were a little bit better. 1407 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: You. 1408 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 3: You can't do that in the UFC, even even in 1409 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 3: the even in the current state of it, it's really 1410 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 3: really hard to do. 1411 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Tell that to a world champion Sage north Cut. 1412 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Where the is he? 1413 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 3: This is my point, Like, I just feel like I'm 1414 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 3: not I'm not saying it's, oh, you gotta beat Rob 1415 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Fonter bust. That's not quite my point, but I am 1416 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 3: kind of saying, like, you gotta, you gotta. For example, 1417 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 3: John Jones was twenty one when he made his debut 1418 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 3: against Andre gusmal Gusma was a top I fl fighter 1419 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 3: and he got smoked by John Jones. And the next 1420 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 3: one was Stephan Bonner and he tossed him around like 1421 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 3: fucking for that fight suit like like he was like 1422 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 3: he was like a bitch in there and just threw 1423 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 3: him around and then he thought Jacobrien and blah blah blah, 1424 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 3: it went off with it. That's a fucking prodigy where 1425 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 3: like the immediate escalation is met with immediate and we 1426 01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 3: knew it, yeah from the bond because we are to Bonner, 1427 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 3: and then the Bonner fight you're like, nobody, Bonnard, you're 1428 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 3: doing the math. 1429 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 4: Bonnard already fought all these guys and like he didn't 1430 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 4: look like that, like right, So they have a guy 1431 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 4: like rag Doll and Mike, he doesn't belong in the 1432 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 4: same cage. That's what told you, you know, it was 1433 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 4: just levels above him. 1434 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: He's got it. 1435 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 3: This this is to me just like a massively consequential 1436 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 3: fight for rosas. 1437 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Not that font is some walk in the. 1438 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 3: Park, but should be quite beatable if you are who 1439 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 3: you say you are at this moment in time. 1440 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 4: That's kind of Although we keep talking about these veterans 1441 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 4: shutting down these youngsters, Man, did you think that's got 1442 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 4: the potential here? 1443 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 3: That's I keep, I keep, I agree with you. My 1444 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: answer is no, I agree with Jed. My answer is 1445 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 3: that I don't think so. But I haven't thought that 1446 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 3: in the last how many times you've been watching it. 1447 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: The only old guy I thought what I thought was 1448 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: gonna win was Vulcan against Lopez. 1449 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, everyone thought he was gonna win. That fair enough 1450 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 2: because we had just seen its Like I think Lopez 1451 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 2: is a donk, I think, and then sure enough it's 1452 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 2: exactly what he turned out to be, So that was 1453 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 2: a little bit easier to see coming. 1454 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, it's just been very, very 1455 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 3: even the struggling one to a degree, was a little 1456 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 3: bit surprised at how one sided it is, you know, 1457 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 3: to me, it was so anyway, just for me, I 1458 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 3: don't think it's as I mentioned before, I don't think 1459 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 3: it's win or bust with Roasauce. 1460 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: But I do think that, like I. 1461 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 3: Need to see him turn some corners in his game, 1462 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, methodically set thing because his 1463 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 3: whole game has always been predicated on. 1464 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Bum rushing, just rush you, and I would if he 1465 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: can lose. But like, hey, you can tell he's thoughtfully 1466 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: setting things up and that Font just had a great night. 1467 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: To me, that's quite forgivable. 1468 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 4: Actually, you know, I don't know if Rock lesns best years, 1469 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 4: he would just bum rush guys like Keith Harring and 1470 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 4: just be like, I'm just gonna okay. But Brown Rock 1471 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 4: was an apex predator in a weak. 1472 01:02:54,760 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 3: Weight class aided by pharmaceutical health, you know what I mean, Like, 1473 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 3: are you talking about. 1474 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 2: What do you mean they have testing, Luke, I don't 1475 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. 1476 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 3: Yes, well, all right, let's talk about one of these 1477 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 3: fun ass fights on this card. Now, this one it's 1478 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 3: not old versus new. There's definitely no title implications. 1479 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: For this one. 1480 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 3: One of these fighters is thirty seven years old and 1481 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 3: the other one is about to be motherfucking forty in 1482 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 3: three years and on a four fight wins Street and 1483 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 3: the forty year old is the favorite at Drew Dover 1484 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 3: jed taking on Michael Johnson. 1485 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: What is this? So when the UFC used to do UFC. 1486 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 3: On Fox, you remember these days, Sure they would do 1487 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 3: four fights on the main car for folks who weren't there. 1488 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 3: They would do four fights on the main card, and 1489 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 3: then the first one would always be something like Pat 1490 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,920 Speaker 3: Barry versus LeVar Johnson. And you're like, oh, well, they're 1491 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 3: just gonna kill each other. This is not the opening 1492 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,919 Speaker 3: fight on the card, but it feels pretty It feels 1493 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 3: pretty fucking similar to that. 1494 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Does it not rock? 1495 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 4: Them? 1496 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 2: Soccer robots? And that's perfect. I don't need every fight. 1497 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 2: We've had this conversation plenty of times. I don't need 1498 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 2: every fight to be this high level, brilliant tactical battle. 1499 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Mix that in, but also give me some candy, give 1500 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 2: me something very very stupid. And Drew Dover is the 1501 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 2: textbook definition of a man who is going to do 1502 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 2: something very stupid. It's gonna be fun and maybe he wins, 1503 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 2: maybe he loses. But this fight's not gonna take more 1504 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 2: than eight minutes, you know, like they're gonna settle it 1505 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 2: pretty quickly and we're gonna have a great time as 1506 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 2: it happens. 1507 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 3: Chuck, Yeah, Michael Johnson, his record is twenty four and nineteen. 1508 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 3: Here's my question to you, and I'm being serious, okay, 1509 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 3: is that the best twenty four to nineteen fighter at MMA. 1510 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 4: Histes because he beats the guys he shouldn't beat, right, 1511 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 4: I mean, so then now you've stopped Dustin Pier in 1512 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 4: the first round, beat Tony Ferguson when like you know, 1513 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 4: before he went on. 1514 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 2: His crazy Fourier win is still just like how I 1515 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 2: did that happen? 1516 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: He had held with an uppercut, but he can't lead 1517 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: in an uppercut, and he got. 1518 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 4: He had that in his arsenal right, Like you knew 1519 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 4: his ability, like you knew some potential with him. And 1520 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 4: I think he was also very willing. You know, he's 1521 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 4: a very willing guy who'd fight a lot. He came 1522 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 4: from a good camp in Florida. I think that there 1523 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 4: were a lot of things in his favor. But yes, 1524 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 4: he's an enigma in the sense too because he'll lose 1525 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 4: to Paul Sass. You know, he's gonna lose to the 1526 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 4: guy that you're like, oh, he's going to walk through 1527 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 4: that dude, and he won't, you know, for him to 1528 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 4: still be fighting, dude, he's crazy. 1529 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 3: Even the ones he lost, like he lost to Habib 1530 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 3: okay ever one loses to habib whatever. But that was 1531 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 3: the one where Hebbie was talking to him like it's 1532 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 3: time for you to quit, and I'm like, it's but 1533 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 3: he also remember he gave he gave some some some 1534 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 3: problems too. 1535 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: He ended up losing. 1536 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 4: But and Jude dober Man like you're mentioning like he's 1537 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 4: one of those guys. Where would you classify him because 1538 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 4: he's not even to a you know, like a Chris 1539 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 4: Liban type thing like Leban had a little more of 1540 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 4: a star flare to him. I think like Doper's almost 1541 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 4: like that. He's kind of similar, like in the terms 1542 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 4: of what he brings though, because a lovable gun slinger 1543 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 4: he is, That's what I guess, you know. It's like 1544 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 4: he's he's reliable to go in there. I think he's 1545 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 4: had twenty six I think I looked this up earlier, 1546 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 4: twenty six fights in the UFC. Twenty of them have 1547 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 4: been finishes, and it's usually it could be him, you 1548 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 4: know what I mean, or it could be the other guy. 1549 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 4: He's just going to bring it on that level. And 1550 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 4: I think that that's the perfect plug in for like, oh, 1551 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 4: we need a guy for the second spot on a 1552 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 4: pay per view type event, Let's get Drew Dobra. I 1553 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 4: remember talking to him ten years ago. He had a 1554 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 4: fight I think it was against Makachev. Was supposed to 1555 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 4: be happening and he was wedding, so it was like 1556 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 4: an April fight. His wedding was in May, and I 1557 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 4: was like, why would you take this fight is before 1558 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 4: it was called off, and he's like, well, I'd rather 1559 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 4: have a black eye. I want to have a black 1560 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 4: eye for my wedding than not be able to eat 1561 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 4: the cake, you know, Like I'd rather be able to 1562 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 4: eat cake on my wedd And it was like that's 1563 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 4: when you know, I mean this has been on going 1564 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 4: for ten years. This is his mentality, Like he's that guy. 1565 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 2: As a hell of a quote. You should never fire 1566 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 2: a guy like Drew dober Like he and Terrence McKinney 1567 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 2: should be employed for life because they're super fun. I 1568 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 2: want to maybe not even pushback, I do just want 1569 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 2: to offer an alternative or to the Michael Johnson Greatest 1570 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 2: whatever that stat was. 1571 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, four nineteen, you got a guy. 1572 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Edson Barbosa also has like in like a twenty and 1573 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 2: eighteen or something resume like that, because Edson Barbosa has 1574 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 2: also fought exclusively great dudes in its. 1575 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 4: Career sitting at the Cosmopolitan? 1576 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Were you at there either? 1577 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 4: When you at the Cosmopolitan when he fought Tony Ferguson, No, 1578 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 4: I mean it's still one of the most brutal sounding 1579 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 4: fights I'd ever been because they were just wailing on 1580 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 4: each other leg and that was peak Tony. 1581 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: It was crazyretty close to it. 1582 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 5: I just want to say that barbe was a buzzg 1583 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Michael Johnson beat Barbosa, so by default, isn't 1584 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 5: he the best twenty four and nineteen? 1585 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 2: No, the styles make fights, you know, we know that. 1586 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: I think Edsen Barbosa's resume is probably better than Michael Johnson's. 1587 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 2: But I'm not looking at them like in a side 1588 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 2: by side right now. 1589 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 3: But you know what, now, now you got me curious, 1590 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 3: So Drew Dover's best win? What would say is Drew 1591 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 3: Dover's best win? 1592 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Jesus? Who's that he beat? King Green? Haifile Alvez? 1593 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 2: Who I ever got to beat King Green? 1594 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 3: Terrence McKinney, Speaking of Terrence, I do he beat Oxander 1595 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 3: Hernandez Nasrak Hack Brass, Polo Reyes, John Talk, Oh, he 1596 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 3: beat up my guy, Frank the Tank Camacho, Josh Burkman. 1597 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: That's a pretty fun little win there. Good time. 1598 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 2: That's a pretty good. 1599 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: Jamie Varner, Jamie Varner. 1600 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 2: When was the last time you all thought of Jamie Varner? 1601 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 3: He was tweeting some Uh remember he went after Senko 1602 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,600 Speaker 3: about a year or two ago, like women shouldn't be 1603 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 3: common tight in MN. I think he's a Arizona I 1604 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 3: like Jamie Arizona. 1605 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 2: Sorry viewers from Arizona. 1606 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he doesn't have a Southern accent. 1607 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 2: That makes more sense. 1608 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 6: But also Arizona, you're just buried Arizona state. 1609 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 3: Arizona is the weirdest state. It's like when you go there, 1610 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we love in Arizona. We love 1611 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 3: our guns and marijuana. 1612 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 1: It's like, I. 1613 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 2: Don't know, I gotta tell you those are those are 1614 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 2: pretty good things to like. 1615 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 3: It's just a untraditional combo. I suppose you know, it's 1616 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 3: got a little bit of a Colorado mixed. 1617 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 1: With Texas mixed in there. It's actually kind of like that. 1618 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Whereas Michael Johnson's best win. It's got to be poor 1619 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 1: it right for this can't be anybody, but I mean 1620 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: it was the first round stage he's got. He's got 1621 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: some other names. Andre feels that one. 1622 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 2: At least was like competitive, and many people thought Tommy One. 1623 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 3: Joe Loan, Danny Castillo, who's a really good fighter at 1624 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 3: the same time, and he's got some good ass wins up, 1625 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 3: but he's just never been the guy I'm gonna go 1626 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 3: on a five fight wall. 1627 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: I guess he might go on a five fight win 1628 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: streak this weekend. I guess we'll see him three or 1629 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 1: four right now, like it's I think he's at four. 1630 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 1: I think he's on three three still, I mean, all right. 1631 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 2: Is this if he wins this long island, will this 1632 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 2: be the longest win streak of his USC career, because 1633 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 2: that's entirely. 1634 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 6: Don't you just have his record up? 1635 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I just got off of it. I'll pull it up 1636 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 1: right now. 1637 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 2: Hold on entirely possible he had so. 1638 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 3: He's had a two fight win streak, he had a 1639 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 3: four fight win streak between Lozan and Barboza, and then 1640 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 3: that's it. 1641 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: So he would tie. 1642 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 2: That's almost almost forty that's insane lightweight too. 1643 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: That some bullshit division too. 1644 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 2: That's shout out to Mia Johnson. 1645 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: Tough all right? And then opening this car. 1646 01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 4: He's a true gamble because you don't know which the 1647 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 4: version of know what's happening? 1648 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 3: Opening this main card as a man after BC's own heart. 1649 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 3: The Hobo Cop Gregory Hadriguez at one five taking on 1650 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 3: Bruno Faja, Chuck, Are. 1651 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: You big on hobo Cop? Where are you on these days? 1652 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: On a matchup? And he's good? 1653 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 4: You know, you were mentioning kind of the booking traditions 1654 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 4: and like, do you think that this is a rematch 1655 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 4: obviously from three years ago? 1656 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:23,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1657 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 4: And first of all, did you want to see this rematch? 1658 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 4: And second do you think it delivers? I guess because 1659 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 4: this is the the curtain jerker of the of the 1660 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 4: main card. Is it the type of fight that usually 1661 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 4: kind of kicks these things off? 1662 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 3: I would have thought that the other fight would have 1663 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 3: gone first, the Johnson and Dover FI. 1664 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm asking because it seems like that 1665 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 4: would in the old day. 1666 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: It's not like this one, Like what are you going 1667 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: to do? Wrestle each other? 1668 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: Very likely RoboCup might just because like he is so 1669 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 2: advantaged on the ground, and he has used it a 1670 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 2: little more. Like he's on a two fight win streak. 1671 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 1: Yes, copy Love and her Manson. 1672 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he started to figure out, Oh, I'm a 1673 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 2: world class jiu jitsu competitor. Maybe I shouldn't play rock them, 1674 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 2: sock them, which sucks. Don't do that. Go back to banging. 1675 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 2: It's way more fun. 1676 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: I agree, banging is fun. 1677 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 2: Banging is super fun. But so maybe he takes him 1678 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 2: down and taps him. But like, to your point, I 1679 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 2: never thought we'd see the stream match, and here it 1680 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 2: is on the main card of the Cape. 1681 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 3: I remember one time I watched the King of the 1682 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 3: Cage fight and the commentarors is the True Stories was 1683 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,560 Speaker 3: this must be two thousand and six, and one of 1684 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 3: the commentators was like, these two guys were just like 1685 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 3: duking it out, and the commentator like, I don't think 1686 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,600 Speaker 3: he was thinking about what he was saying. He's like, 1687 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 3: oh my god, these two guys came here to bang, 1688 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't think they did. 1689 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they did, and that's not the show 1690 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I signed up for. 1691 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,719 Speaker 2: Maybe they did. We don't judge. Maybe you don't judge. 1692 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: And if they don't do that. 1693 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 4: At least they're gonna fight. 1694 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you gotta be careful with the verbs how 1695 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 3: you use them. 1696 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: But do we think like both guys are ranked. 1697 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:53,799 Speaker 2: Ranked? 1698 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 1: I believe that's right. Yes, you should be. Am I 1699 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 1: wrong about that? 1700 01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 6: Marvin Vttori? 1701 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 2: So he might be Yeah, I think, yeah, that's embarrassing. 1702 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'll tell you at two. 1703 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 3: Yes, Hadriguez at thirteen, brudofa Hair at fifteen. So it's 1704 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 3: kind of like maybe knocking on the door of the 1705 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,959 Speaker 3: tenth spot something who's sitting in the currently by cannoneir, 1706 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 3: occupied by Cannoneer. 1707 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1708 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. 1709 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 3: Another's story line so much to fight, other than the 1710 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 3: rematch itself, which. 1711 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 2: Is there's redemption. 1712 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,719 Speaker 4: I guess at stake for a trilogy. 1713 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the UFC would like it if 1714 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 2: RoboCop was good, Like, he is a super fun fighter. 1715 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: He looks like he's fifty. That's always a fun gimmick. 1716 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,639 Speaker 2: So if he can get past Brunoveda, he gets back 1717 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 2: that loss. He's only had two losses in the UFC. 1718 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 4: Someone looked that up, very very few. 1719 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he gets back that and then like he's 1720 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 2: I know, he looks old. He's not, right, man, He's 1721 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 2: not that old, isn't he like thirty two, thirty. 1722 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 4: Three, thirtyble cop? Yeah, thirty four, I believe Is he 1723 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 4: that old? I'll tell you it looks like he's one hundred. 1724 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 5: But I realized recently jed his age is finally catching 1725 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 5: up to the way he looks, because I also was like. 1726 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 1: Oh, he's thirty four now literally he literally just turned 1727 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: thirty four. 1728 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 2: That's the thing is he's going to age super well 1729 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 2: because you're not gonna know when he's fifty, because he's 1730 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 2: gonna look the same. Yeah, it's terrific for him. 1731 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 3: Garl Are you an MMA fighter? Have you been smoking 1732 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 3: in a billiards? I can't tell, I guess. 1733 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: But like, he's a super fun fighter, So I think 1734 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 2: the UFC would like to give him a push. I 1735 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 2: don't know if that push means will eventually fight for. 1736 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 6: A belt lust three times, but probably not. Armand Petrosian 1737 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 6: is the fighter, that's right. 1738 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 2: That fight was very forgettable. So if he gets past Branofaheada, 1739 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 2: maybe we have a little bit of a changing in 1740 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 2: the guard happening in midway right now, right like Whittaker 1741 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 2: announced that he's leaving the white class and Sean Schickland 1742 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 2: just got a w But like some some motion is 1743 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 2: happening at the top. Maybe he can sort of angle 1744 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 2: his way into a title fight or at least like 1745 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 2: a big fight with real stakes. If he gets past Bruno, 1746 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 2: heetta If Bruno wins, he's just a Rockham socing guy, 1747 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 2: and that's we love those. 1748 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 3: And by the way, we didn't talk about it earlier, 1749 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,759 Speaker 3: but the rankings position of the co main event between 1750 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 3: Bohalio and de Ritdter is seven and eight, and so 1751 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 3: here's the ranking DDP one, Imovo two, Strickland three, Brendan 1752 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 3: Allen four. Is he at five? We'll see what happens 1753 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 3: with the ANC Seattle main event. So some of these guys 1754 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 3: to Ritter or Balllio might find themselves back in top five. 1755 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 3: I think this one's trying to get into the top ten. 1756 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 2: And if if Ham's is about to bail too, which 1757 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 2: I think he is, do you really think so? I 1758 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 2: think he is at best defending his belt one time 1759 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 2: and then he's just gonna fight. 1760 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 1: I do think he defends I don't know about after that. 1761 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 2: I think it. I think he's gonna fight John Stricken. 1762 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 2: I think he's scooting, and so you know, that opens 1763 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 2: up one more spot to like work. 1764 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,720 Speaker 4: Here one of those guys who may have like one 1765 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 4: fight left in his career. I mean, he's just like, 1766 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you never. 1767 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 3: Know, Dean Thomas got so much ship for being like 1768 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 3: this guy is unreliable. 1769 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 1: He'll be a bad champion. I remember get him getting 1770 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 1: like nuclear ratio and I'm like, I don't know, guys 1771 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: that seems to have aged pretty fucking well. 1772 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's hard to get him in there. Man, 1773 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 4: Like he started off like three fights very quickly, right like, 1774 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 4: and then since. 1775 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,599 Speaker 2: The start of his career could not be more different 1776 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 2: from the rest of it. And as soon as he 1777 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 2: like finally wins the belt is like, I mean, I 1778 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 2: will fight nasterty meame above, but I'd rather go fight 1779 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 2: Alex Pereira and do other things. And I don't know, 1780 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 2: at this stage, maybe just lets him. They don't seem to. 1781 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 3: Care at all, so well, put bo Tom's gone, so 1782 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 3: he'd be fighting who's fighting Olberg? 1783 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna fight on Yeah, well, you know, I 1784 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: mean that's what I said. I was like, you know, 1785 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 1: what's interesting about that fight. 1786 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:38,440 Speaker 3: It's Alberg is not great, but good, very and relatively consistent. 1787 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 3: Year he is not at all consistent, sometimes horrible. However, 1788 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 3: has the capacity to be fucking insane. And so as 1789 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 3: a consequence, is like, I'm gonna go with the guy 1790 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 3: who's deeply unreliable, you know what I mean. 1791 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 4: That's m m a math here is the guy that 1792 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 4: ambitious middleweight circle though. I mean, they're like, hey, I'm 1793 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 4: gonna go check my chances against that guy, right. 1794 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they think they can beat him. And then 1795 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 2: you get in there and you're like, oh, I'm fighting 1796 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,719 Speaker 2: a crazy person, and you never fight a crazy person. 1797 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:06,839 Speaker 2: That's good life advice. 1798 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 3: Like you end up realizing that he's a cyborg from 1799 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 3: the year twenty fifty sent back in time to terror. 1800 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Go watch the Khalil round Tree fight again. 1801 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: Cleiar. 1802 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 2: Round Tree is such a like smart, good fighter, doing 1803 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 2: good smart things, disciplined and that fight, he's so disciplined 1804 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 2: and he is whipping the shit out of Yearie and 1805 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't fucking matter because because he's just like, I 1806 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 2: am crazier than you, and that is crazy. And by 1807 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 2: the third round, Kalil is just like, oh my god, 1808 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 2: I'm fighting a bear? What the is happening? 1809 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of these lines here if we 1810 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 3: can these fight lines. By the way, this is presented 1811 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 3: by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Let's talk about this 1812 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 3: for just a seconds. I think got pulled up here. 1813 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Let's talk about this some 1814 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 1: of the the betting that is h pop. Well you 1815 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: know what that that took it off? What happened here? 1816 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 1: All right? Hold on one second, I headed up and. 1817 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 4: Then it cheves a huge man. 1818 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 3: Well he's yeah, all right, here we go. Now I 1819 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,840 Speaker 3: got the fire lines. Okay, they took him off, and 1820 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 3: now I see him. All right, They've got the money line. 1821 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 3: Max Holloway at minus two thirty Oliver at plus one 1822 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 3: seventy five. 1823 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 1: What do you think, long Islander? Is there val value 1824 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 1: that line on? 1825 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 6: I don't really love olivera in that fight. I'm not 1826 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 6: gonna lie. 1827 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,839 Speaker 5: I'm kind of like Jed where I feel like Holloway 1828 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 5: just kind of has it every way he wants. So, uh, 1829 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,600 Speaker 5: I think minus two thirty to get Max in a 1830 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 5: fight that I think he probably wins, you know, eight 1831 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 5: times out of ten, And I think that's good value 1832 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 5: but uh, I might rock with an over under in 1833 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 5: that fight. 1834 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 6: I haven't really looked into it too. 1835 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: All right, chuck over under two and a half rounds. 1836 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 1: What do you think on the maybor that fight? Mm hm, 1837 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 1: I'll say over. 1838 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 3: I'll take you over too. I think Max is a 1839 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 3: little methodical with it right, going under, you're taking under, Charles? 1840 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,560 Speaker 3: Do you really think this is just gonna be a beaten. 1841 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 2: I think, well, it's just the way Charles fights. Like 1842 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 2: Charles is going. Charles is going to come forward and 1843 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 2: make it a fight and he's gonna get tagged, and 1844 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a really bad time for him. 1845 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 3: It's amazing that, like the reality about Max is he 1846 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 3: he is well rounded. Half of his game you don't 1847 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 3: even see because he never has to use it, right, Yeah, 1848 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 3: But like it's so amazing to me that people MMA 1849 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 3: don't have jabs and it's like Max Holloway has good 1850 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 3: takedown defense, a great jab, and he moves his feet 1851 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 3: and look at how fucking good he is. I'm not 1852 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 3: saying those are the only reasons he's good. I'm saying, like, 1853 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 3: do you know what you can do in building a 1854 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 3: foundation around that shit? 1855 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 1: It's insane what you can do? 1856 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 2: I am I'm interested to see if Oliver Eric can 1857 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,679 Speaker 2: get takedowns. Then this fight gets much more interesting. 1858 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 6: You know, a cage like Max thanks, Oh yeah, I'm kidding, 1859 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 6: but's gonna tag him? 1860 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 3: So all right, this is to me is more interesting 1861 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 3: the total round. So remember the main events of five 1862 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 3: round fight. Obviously the Comaine is a three round contest, 1863 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,840 Speaker 3: yet same over under jed at two and a half round. 1864 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 1: That sounds right, So do you think that one goes 1865 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 1: the distance? 1866 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,640 Speaker 2: Probably? Ohio is very tough, and that's true, I mean 1867 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 2: outside of already are getting fluffied or fighting anatotlely Mallekin 1868 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 2: like he's the cards that seems likely to go like a. 1869 01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be two one either way. 1870 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 3: And then we discussed the money line before Kyle bo 1871 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 3: Hollyo sitting at minus two ninety I gotta say, even 1872 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 3: if you like the chances, that's a big price to 1873 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 3: deritter at plus two thirty five. How do you look 1874 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 3: at that and be like, I'm going to pass that up. 1875 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 3: That's crazy value at least it seems that way. Now, 1876 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 3: the one that's really interesting to me, same kind of 1877 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,639 Speaker 3: money line. They're not all this way, but this one's 1878 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 3: got an interesting money line as well. Sorry, the total 1879 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 3: rounds Rob font and rel Ross Junior same two. 1880 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 1: And a half. 1881 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I have taken that interesting the 1882 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 3: unders at minus one eighty eight for that. The plus 1883 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 3: the unit of two plus five is that like two 1884 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 3: and a half is a plus one forty five on that. 1885 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,679 Speaker 3: And then they've got Route Roases Junior as a minus 1886 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 3: two eighteen to Rob Fonts plus one a two. 1887 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,560 Speaker 1: That seems like good. That sounds about right to me. 1888 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of your chalky parlays you can put 1889 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 4: together long albums. 1890 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was at a chalk I think I'm gonna 1891 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 5: take the old total rounds. I think I'm gonna go 1892 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 5: over one and a half in that fight. 1893 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 2: Alright, Okay, that's all risky in my opinion. 1894 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,759 Speaker 3: Drew Dover and Michael Johnson. It's as you can imagine, 1895 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 3: it's pretty close on the money line to a pick 1896 01:19:58,680 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 3: them over under. 1897 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 2: One, and I sai, that's going to be a one 1898 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 2: and a half over. 1899 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 1: Have you guys ever seen one where it's a half round? 1900 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Has that ever? Has that ever happened? 1901 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 4: Long? 1902 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 6: It just happened recently. 1903 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 2: With Terence McKinney fight. 1904 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 5: Though it was that guy I'm gonna butcher. His name, 1905 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,799 Speaker 5: yak Yayev was his last name. He was a prelim 1906 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 5: fighter coming off contenders. Here he a guy in like 1907 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 5: a minute. But it was literally said it over half around. 1908 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I've never seen that. That's very rare, right, 1909 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 3: super super rare. But that one seems about right. And 1910 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 3: then the same kind of thing. Oh, you know what, 1911 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 3: they don't think this one's going to go very long. 1912 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 3: The Hadriguez and Faheita fight round and a half is 1913 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,880 Speaker 3: the over under on that one? 1914 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: And pick him too? 1915 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 2: I agree. 1916 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,719 Speaker 3: That seems like, by the way, who are you picking 1917 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 3: in that one? Yeah, he's a slim on the money line, 1918 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,559 Speaker 3: he's a slight favorite at one ninety eight and then 1919 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 3: uh forhead, go to our friends of DraftKings at plus 1920 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,560 Speaker 3: one sixty four Long Island. Any other betting on the 1921 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 3: main car that stands out to you, any kind of 1922 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 3: thing anyway you're looking at it, that's an interest to 1923 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 3: our audience. 1924 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 6: That over one and a half. 1925 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 5: If that goes to plus money, I know you said 1926 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 5: it's a pick him right now. In Bruno and RoboCop, 1927 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 5: I might jump on that man. I feel like, I 1928 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,240 Speaker 5: know their first fight ended in the first round, but 1929 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 5: I feel like Robo Cops is gonna come out safer 1930 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 5: this time. He doesn't want to get chinned again, and 1931 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,680 Speaker 5: Bruno has gone a little long his last few I 1932 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 5: don't know the numbers in front of me, but I 1933 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 5: feel like they've both hit it pretty recently, so I'm 1934 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 5: gonna I might take that. 1935 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 1: It's weird too, because I kind of I really respect Hadriguez, 1936 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: like he's got big power. As you mentioned jiu jitsu. 1937 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 1: I feel like for hit is just Brazilian. 1938 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, he's just a tang. 1939 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 3: Like Brazilian middleweight. It's like, oh, I kind of know 1940 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 3: what he's about. You know, I don't really know what 1941 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 3: he's about, but I kind of know that I don't 1942 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 3: know if. 1943 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 2: That Sometimes that's honestly like the actual perfect. 1944 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 4: Sometimes that's just a dissolution of what you really what's 1945 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,559 Speaker 4: really the truth? 1946 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 2: You say Brazilian middleweight you just kind of draw a 1947 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,720 Speaker 2: picture of in your head. 1948 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got tattoos up and down the arm, and 1949 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 3: he kind of do a lot. He's got a big 1950 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 3: ass punch. He can grab a little bit he'll be 1951 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 3: he'll definitely be ready to go. 1952 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,640 Speaker 1: Like that's just what it is. All right, Now, we 1953 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 1: got to talk about this this prelim card. Wow, we 1954 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,440 Speaker 1: were talking earlier, earlier about bubblah blah blah blah bau. 1955 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean this one is we have three codyes. 1956 01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 3: Come on, I mean again, it's I don't even know 1957 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 3: what to say about this. Let's go through this very 1958 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 3: quickly if we can. Cody Garbrandt is in this contest. 1959 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 3: Cody Garbrandt. Pop quiz, Chuck, how old is Cody Garbrant? 1960 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,599 Speaker 1: God, he's now. It was a thirty four, thirty four 1961 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:16,599 Speaker 1: on the money. Now. 1962 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,559 Speaker 3: Interestingly, he's coming off with two losses in a row. However, 1963 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 3: one was Devison Figureedo he got subbed in the second, 1964 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 3: and the other one was how any Barcelos who has 1965 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 3: had a career researchers, are we ready to bury him 1966 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 3: against long Shoo, who is coming off of. 1967 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,679 Speaker 4: The excuse me, the m Asia he loses this one? 1968 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I'm ready to bury it. It's 1969 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 1: one thing. 1970 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,640 Speaker 3: It's one thing if you're losing to again, here are 1971 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,639 Speaker 3: his losses the last four. As I mentioned, Barcelos figuredo 1972 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 3: kay Car France. Rob font All right, all ranked, guys, 1973 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 3: you lose to a guy like this, dude, he's I 1974 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 3: just want to point out he's the underdog. It's plus 1975 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 3: one twenty four right now. 1976 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Yep. Oh my god, dude, they got they got, they 1977 01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:02,959 Speaker 1: got ready. They got no love for him, dude, after. 1978 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,800 Speaker 4: He bewitched Dominant Cruz, which is just still one of 1979 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 4: the craziest things that like at the time, right like 1980 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,960 Speaker 4: you're like, oh my god, this is just masterful. 1981 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 1: Like what he just did. 1982 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 4: I think he is three and seven in that stretch 1983 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 4: and now to be an underdog in this fight and 1984 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,600 Speaker 4: on on a prelim of a card that like we 1985 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 4: thought Cody Garber was going to be a star. 1986 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 1: That's kind of a story within itself, you. 1987 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 2: Know, dude, He's had one of the weirdest freaking it's crazy. 1988 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he's he's going to be the standard. 1989 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Do you remember when he blitzed Thomas Almada? Were there? 1990 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was he leveled him in like. 1991 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 5: Is like. 1992 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 2: Like he buried him in like the same right hand 1993 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 2: the like to put. 1994 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 4: But have him done twice like the first time, like 1995 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 4: somehow he survived and then he did it again. 1996 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,879 Speaker 2: Like it was one of those times he was supposed 1997 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 2: to be so good and now he's just. 1998 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Like he is. 1999 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 4: And then when he beat Cruz, you're like, oh, I 2000 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,639 Speaker 4: especially because nobody did at the Cruise. 2001 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 2: He is the example I get to use now when 2002 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,800 Speaker 2: new fans are like, actually, Tapuri is the greatest fighter 2003 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 2: of all time, and I'm like, he might be, but 2004 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,080 Speaker 2: also I've seen Cody Garbrant be unbelievable and then suck 2005 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 2: for ten years. Maybe that happens. You have to let 2006 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 2: them play out their careers. 2007 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: It is. 2008 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 2: It's nuts. 2009 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 3: Dante Johnson enters its contest against another Cody, Cody Brundage. 2010 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 3: Dante Johnson has all first round finishes except one, which 2011 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 3: was a second round finish, sitting at seven and oh, 2012 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,760 Speaker 3: Cody Brundage, I think is just kind of eleven and 2013 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 3: eight records kind of up, kind of down. 2014 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 1: Who are we talking about? 2015 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 4: It was like it Odaei Osborne or saying like we 2016 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 4: were talking about that prelim from last card, and you're like, man, 2017 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 4: you start daydreaming and pretty soon half the fight's gone 2018 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,800 Speaker 4: by on I don't even. 2019 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 1: Know what's going on. Man. Well, Dante Johnson might make 2020 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,600 Speaker 1: a fast bru It's like. 2021 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,760 Speaker 4: He's one of those guys that you're like, why am 2022 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 4: I spinning mines? 2023 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm not. 2024 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be corol, but like you'd like 2025 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,439 Speaker 4: you look at the like when you're watching a Cody Brund, 2026 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 4: when you. 2027 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 3: Come from the UFC that used to cut guys at 2028 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 3: the three losses, you're like, we are long. 2029 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 1: Past that we talked about. 2030 01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 6: Cody just got knocked out five weeks. 2031 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 4: Exactly that, dude, I didn't realize and he's coming back. 2032 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 6: How is that even? That's pretty less than forty five days. 2033 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 2: Against the guy who is going to put him out again. 2034 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's yeah. 2035 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 2: Also a guy who Contender series at heavyweight, Dante Johnson 2036 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:12,639 Speaker 2: now fighting. 2037 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 3: At Alberto Montest taking on Ricky Tercios Montest ten and 2038 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 3: one out of Venezuela. I'm not really sure what to 2039 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 3: say about this at one forty five. 2040 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,680 Speaker 1: That's a long Island Luke fight. 2041 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,559 Speaker 2: That's another Contender series, dude, who. 2042 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, Cod not the third Cody, but three Cody's 2043 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 1: in a row. That's interesting. Cody, Cody. 2044 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 3: And then Cody Durton taking on how do you say 2045 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,760 Speaker 3: this guy named the Mongolian Guyl. 2046 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,040 Speaker 2: I love, I'm a big fan. 2047 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 3: Of his name. 2048 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 1: Any any thoughts on this jeed in this particular contest, 2049 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:43,679 Speaker 1: Cody Durton can rustle. 2050 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 4: I like that he said he's going to the fight 2051 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 4: like I'm going to fight on this and he shows 2052 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,760 Speaker 4: himself on like some horse in Mongolia. 2053 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2054 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's good stuff. Right. 2055 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,080 Speaker 2: You should never pick against a guy named Touman Diimbrel. 2056 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,879 Speaker 2: But Cody Durton shout out Atlanta. 2057 01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Cody Durton has lost four of his last five, including 2058 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 3: Josh Van He got decisions. He lost to Jose Ochoh, 2059 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 3: he got stopped. Here's that Alan Naciamento, he got stopped 2060 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:05,160 Speaker 3: as well. 2061 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,640 Speaker 2: The thing I appreciate about to m. Nimbrel is he 2062 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 2: has the Brad Picket thing, which y'all are old enough 2063 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 2: to understand both who Brad Picket is and this joke. 2064 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,639 Speaker 2: His nickname is Art of Knockout, but he is actually 2065 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 2: like a grappling submission guy, so he's doing the Brad 2066 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 2: one punch picket thing. Do you know which I respect? 2067 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,800 Speaker 3: Do you know what Rodrigo del Conpo told us on 2068 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 3: Friday that Brandon Mareno the assassin Bababy do you know 2069 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 3: why he's called that because whoever gave him that name 2070 01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,000 Speaker 3: didn't know how to translate baby faced assassin, so they 2071 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 3: just call him assassin. 2072 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Baby. That is hilarious. 2073 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 5: I love that. 2074 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 2075 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 3: All right, Sumidergy taking on Jesus Agui Laud might be 2076 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,120 Speaker 3: a fun fightj is in. 2077 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Uh, well, you know he had that amazing fight with 2078 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 1: mat Chanel. 2079 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 2: I know, dude, he's like a top twenty lightweight. 2080 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got on topologies, got him ranked twenty two. 2081 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 3: Halfayo Tobias taking on dr nerdjse have Kazakhstan. I think, 2082 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 3: who's got a neck the size of a He doesn't 2083 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,760 Speaker 3: have an eck, that doesn't It's just insane as the 2084 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,639 Speaker 3: guys saying. 2085 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:06,559 Speaker 2: It's three traps to head. 2086 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 5: He's got one hundred percent takedown defense, but has somehow 2087 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:10,559 Speaker 5: been submitted in both of his UFC. 2088 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:11,880 Speaker 3: I have to tell you that is one of the 2089 01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,919 Speaker 3: most insane stats I've ever heard. It's like you got submitted, 2090 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 3: how well they couldn't take you down? Uh it was 2091 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 3: a flying arm bar, all right. The guy who looks 2092 01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 3: you guys are seeing Guston Bologos hit the pads. No, 2093 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 3: he looks like you're like, oh, well that's Alex Perreira. 2094 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 3: That's just Ax Perrera in one for five form, but 2095 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 3: his records eight and five. It's kind of like it 2096 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 3: comes from a good team as well, good coach. He's 2097 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,560 Speaker 3: taking on John Yong Lee, who is a bit of 2098 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 3: a These Korean bubbas, they will live or die by 2099 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,600 Speaker 3: the fucking sword, will they not, bro You see it. 2100 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 3: You see you see a South Korean guy on that card, 2101 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 3: You're like, Oh, this fucking guy might either kill or 2102 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 3: be killed. 2103 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:49,120 Speaker 1: This is what it is. 2104 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 4: That's because if you see a North Korean guy, how 2105 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:55,240 Speaker 4: did they get here? 2106 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 1: Dude? 2107 01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,680 Speaker 2: It's great because South Korea just was like, oh, we 2108 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 2: have Korean zombie. We all just try to be him. 2109 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 2: And that's a great I think that's true thought to 2110 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:07,759 Speaker 2: be that dude, and it rocks. 2111 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,760 Speaker 1: It's amazing that like they all kind of follow that, 2112 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 1: and he's still the best version of that. Guys with 2113 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,440 Speaker 1: like nicknames like you know, second. 2114 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 6: You's zombie Ju. 2115 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:20,559 Speaker 1: Everybody emulates him. 2116 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,599 Speaker 3: And then opening the card will be Luke Fernandez, who 2117 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,559 Speaker 3: was undefeated at six and oh, taking on Judelfho Belato Belo. 2118 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,640 Speaker 3: This is a two five fight, you might recalls the 2119 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 3: guy who had the phantom was it. He was knocked out, 2120 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,920 Speaker 3: then awake, and then knocked back out again. It was 2121 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 3: I thought I thought watching I was like, Oh, they're 2122 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,599 Speaker 3: gonna cut his ass, and then. 2123 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,160 Speaker 2: Here he is a very rarely outright him like that 2124 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,160 Speaker 2: dude was acting. 2125 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 3: I'm not the only issue I have with the acting, 2126 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 3: and this is not the strongest evidence. I don't I 2127 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 3: doing my best here was that if you notice there's 2128 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,320 Speaker 3: a moment where he like is like making this entreaty 2129 01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,600 Speaker 3: to the referee when he's like up like this, and 2130 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 3: then person walks in front of the screen, and then 2131 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 3: when it goes back to him, he's back down, and 2132 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 3: so I don't know what happened to him in that 2133 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 3: one moment. This is a Brian Campbell conversation. And then 2134 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,800 Speaker 3: then the then the plane jet fuel melted. 2135 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 1: The towers, and uh, they're lying to you, dude, I literally. 2136 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,600 Speaker 3: I'll I'll sometimes sometimes we will send me like a 2137 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,920 Speaker 3: conspiracy theory and I'll be like, I'll ask him, you 2138 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 3: can ask the other producer. 2139 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 1: I'll do this. I'll be like, did you look into this, 2140 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 1: Like what is the evidence for this? And he'll send 2141 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 1: me tweets and I'll be like, you don't have like. 2142 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,040 Speaker 3: Well, and then the the the media out will be 2143 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 3: like red pill fuck face, And I'm like, I don't think, BC, 2144 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 3: I don't think. 2145 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't seem yeah, I got I got take you BC. 2146 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how strong the evidentiary basis is for 2147 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 3: nine to eleven conspiracies for red pill fuck face. 2148 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure 2149 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 1: about that. 2150 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 2: Check. Did you ever think your career would lead you 2151 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,480 Speaker 2: here talking about nine eleven. 2152 01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Conspiracies in New York City? LSU in New York City? 2153 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 2: What what turns did we take that we got here? 2154 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Gentlemen, Chuck will start with you, what are you doing 2155 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,600 Speaker 1: for three twenty six coverage? I have? 2156 01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,680 Speaker 4: What do I have coming up here? I know that 2157 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 4: we're doing a pre fight I mean we're doing the 2158 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,160 Speaker 4: Crack on Friday with PiZZ Carrol. I'll do a post 2159 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:24,040 Speaker 4: fight show with Ariel and PiZZ the old three Pauk 2160 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:24,439 Speaker 4: line up. 2161 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Now do you guys always do that? 2162 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,680 Speaker 4: It's just for the numbered events or if it's like 2163 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,760 Speaker 4: some kind of big enough fight, you know, but not 2164 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 4: not all of them? So yeah, right, yeah and. 2165 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:35,960 Speaker 1: So and then I'll have some. I have a couple 2166 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:36,320 Speaker 1: of columns. 2167 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,640 Speaker 4: We have a round table like that kind of addresses 2168 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 4: the major questions and all that stuff. So there'll be 2169 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 4: a lot of content coming out of me this week. 2170 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 1: What do you got? 2171 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 2: We're doing a watch party. We do them all the 2172 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,920 Speaker 2: time for pay per views. There's still pay per views? 2173 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Did I see Mike Heckett ref? Sure? 2174 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,840 Speaker 2: Was that really worked out well for us? We sent 2175 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 2: Mike and Jose to Aria? Where was it Arizona? Jose 2176 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,160 Speaker 2: went from Arizona to Vegas. 2177 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:01,759 Speaker 4: He's going. 2178 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 2: Where's of South Carolina? 2179 01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 1: Oh? Okay? 2180 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 2: Buff in South Carolina? 2181 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 1: That was a gamble you all made. But that worked. 2182 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Like we were like, oh good because the event was fun. 2183 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 2: I really like the R e F. Actually, I have 2184 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 2: to tell you. 2185 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 1: I love what they're doing. I think I do think 2186 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,240 Speaker 1: that the rules need to be changed a little bit. 2187 01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,439 Speaker 1: Maybe they have too many push outs and I think 2188 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:23,479 Speaker 1: that they need to kind of fix that. 2189 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 2: But maybe, but like it kind of works. They're just 2190 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,720 Speaker 2: their match making is perfect because they're just setting a 2191 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 2: matches where everybody scores points. You're not getting like a 2192 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 2: one zero defensive struggle, and pacing is good. And then 2193 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 2: sometimes armasrukiin just goddamn mind and that's that's great. 2194 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 1: By the way, it was not a takedown that we got. 2195 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,120 Speaker 1: It was out of bounds. It doesn't count. 2196 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 2: I mean, so it doesn't count per the rules. But 2197 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 2: I've never watched this guy's instagram stick. 2198 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,640 Speaker 1: He's fun George Georgia pulas Or. 2199 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 2: And like I'm not, I'm not here to knock the stick, 2200 01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 2: like I actually think it's a good idea. I've never 2201 01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,759 Speaker 2: watched it. But like, per the rules, it wasn't a takedown, 2202 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 2: but his ass hit the mat. 2203 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 1: That's a takedown, yes, per the rules, though no, it 2204 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 1: wasn't too Yeah, okay, so fighting, I am going to 2205 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 1: have for sure a watch along for that, and I'll 2206 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 1: have a postfight show, Thank you Jesus. 2207 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,920 Speaker 3: They start at nine now and not fucking I know. 2208 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 3: It makes a huge difference. It makes a huge difference. 2209 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,160 Speaker 3: What you got going on there, Long Island. 2210 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:24,920 Speaker 1: What do you got for coverage? 2211 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,479 Speaker 6: Well, I got Jed and Chuck and prop Quiz on Friday, 2212 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,920 Speaker 6: and then I got a you know, full card watch 2213 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,840 Speaker 6: along Saturday. Baby, you already know, tune in for me 2214 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 6: for the prelims. 2215 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,800 Speaker 2: Let's go your poor girl full card watch along. You're 2216 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:37,480 Speaker 2: so impressive. 2217 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,599 Speaker 1: Bro, that's not even impressive. That's just masochistic. I mean, 2218 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 1: what is wrong with you? 2219 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,639 Speaker 6: You you don't know this fighter on the prelims Luke, 2220 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 6: and I know it. 2221 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's true. There's utility. There's a utility if 2222 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: we need. 2223 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 2: This man is locked into Luke Fernandez versus all. 2224 01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,879 Speaker 6: I think it's his name is Luke and he's undefeated. 2225 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 6: You're damn right. 2226 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm locked there. 2227 01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I used to do that kind of thing 2228 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 3: I do. I was watching like Shintaro issue Watari on 2229 01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:04,080 Speaker 3: Shooto Car. 2230 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,000 Speaker 1: I know I used to do it. And now I'm like, 2231 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:07,720 Speaker 1: this is a waste of time. 2232 01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,240 Speaker 4: Like you know, you're talking about like Luke Kumo or something, 2233 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,320 Speaker 4: but like you know every single thing about him. 2234 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,000 Speaker 3: You see this guy who's second on the prelims. This 2235 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 3: guy drinks his own piss. Let's watch him, which, by 2236 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 3: the way, Luke Kumo used to drink exactly For all 2237 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 3: the old heads out there. All right, let's remind everybody, Uh, socials, 2238 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:27,559 Speaker 3: we're everywhere. 2239 01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,320 Speaker 1: You can get morning combat. Oh you guys want to 2240 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, social sucks. I mean, you find us just 2241 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 1: google the name. Yeah, I just find us. 2242 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 2: Then a lot of jed mushoes out there you could 2243 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:37,640 Speaker 2: come up with. 2244 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,639 Speaker 1: Do you know what's so funny is how many people 2245 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 1: in Georgia I know have a variation of your name 2246 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:42,599 Speaker 1: the last name. 2247 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:47,080 Speaker 2: No, that's I've I would never with one other mushoe 2248 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 2: in my life, and it was French am I s 2249 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 2: or am I H. 2250 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 1: I went to school with a girl whose last name 2251 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 1: was minchew am I n c H gay. 2252 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 2: Let's go. Yeah like that, I'm definitely like somehow related. 2253 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, like if you look at us like it's 2254 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,599 Speaker 1: like similar, there's like there's last names like pender Grass, 2255 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,519 Speaker 1: pender Grass. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. They 2256 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 1: all kind of I don't know what the etymology is, 2257 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 1: but they're all kind of related. 2258 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 2: To I'm more in like New Orleans there, there's a 2259 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 2: bunch of like show's down there. Yes, weasize the fun 2260 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:15,600 Speaker 2: out of it. 2261 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,560 Speaker 4: Should be m I C H A U X or 2262 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,800 Speaker 4: a U D and we are Okay, you were saying, 2263 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 4: I said, are there a lot of Thomas's do you 2264 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:24,719 Speaker 4: find that you've come across? 2265 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 1: Name black white Smith? But it's up there. 2266 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 3: They make good English muffins, all right, let's see what else. 2267 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 3: You can email the show Morning Coombat at gmail dot 2268 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,200 Speaker 3: com for dead wrongs we got here, I'm sure we've 2269 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,479 Speaker 3: got a few of them, and then as well as 2270 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 3: for fan subs, we will take a look at those 2271 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,920 Speaker 3: on Friday, and then don't forget Morning Combat dot shop 2272 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 3: will have the new designs, which, by the way, true 2273 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:46,160 Speaker 3: true story Long Island. 2274 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:46,640 Speaker 1: Look yes or no. 2275 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,800 Speaker 3: Tell the audience if I'm telling the truth that one 2276 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,640 Speaker 3: of the designs we've had is like literally maybe one 2277 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,080 Speaker 3: of my favorite ones ever genuinely makes me laugh. 2278 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,720 Speaker 6: Yes. On the other one I think is my favorite design. Yes, 2279 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,559 Speaker 6: and that's no bullshit. 2280 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 1: And we've got and we might have something special for 2281 01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,000 Speaker 1: that extra one, right, we might. We might do something 2282 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:04,720 Speaker 1: a little fun with that one. 2283 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,280 Speaker 6: Man might do t shirt, might do a hoodie. 2284 01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's gonna be cool. All right, gentlemen, thank 2285 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 3: you so much for doing this. It's a lot of fun. Again, 2286 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 3: maybe next time we'll get some. 2287 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 1: Graphics with the people who are actually working on the show. 2288 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:16,360 Speaker 1: It'll be great, all right. 2289 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,880 Speaker 3: Four be four sub Zero himself, Chuck Benden Hall, this 2290 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,680 Speaker 3: is Jem Mishew, I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys, so 2291 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,599 Speaker 3: much for watching, We really appreciate it. Until next time, 2292 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 3: all of your gains be loyal.