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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, do you hear me? Hi?

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Speaker 2: What's your name?

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt.

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Speaker 2: Matt. When I was a young child's I was I

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Speaker 2: went to the j c C, the Jewish Community Center

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Speaker 2: day camp, or maybe I was in kindergarten or something,

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Speaker 2: and there was a guy who used to work there.

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Speaker 2: His name was mister Matt, and he had a hook

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Speaker 2: for a hand. He didn't have a hand, he had

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Speaker 2: a hook, and he was a cool guy. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I was a little intimidated by him when I

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Speaker 2: was a child, because that's just the nature of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was a little intimidated by him, But now I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: what a guy to you know, really serve in his community,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good guy. He might know he's alive.

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Speaker 2: But what's your name, Matt?

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt. Yeah, No, it's good. You can

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Speaker 1: call me. You can call me Matt or or I

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Speaker 1: can go by eighties.

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Speaker 2: Like Matt is more pronounceable to me than what you

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Speaker 2: just said. But Matt, enough, yeah, and enough about all

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Speaker 2: this fucking bullshit. What's up, man? How's how's life? Would

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Speaker 2: would you want to talk about today?

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Speaker 1: I've been I've been trying to talk to you for ages.

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Speaker 1: I've been listening for a long time. I actually I've

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Speaker 1: been listening to all the Spotify podcast and I actually

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Speaker 1: joined the super Cast like maybe a month ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, of course, No, I love your content. No,

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to call for a long time because like,

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Speaker 1: the past two months of my life have been a

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Speaker 1: little chaotic, a little uh, a little eventful, more or less.

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Speaker 1: I was in a relationship for a really long time

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Speaker 1: or not not a really long time, like basically up

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Speaker 1: to a little a little less than two years, and

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Speaker 1: it ended a little catastrophically where I have a BPD,

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Speaker 1: so that's like borderline personality disorder. So it's really hard

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Speaker 1: for me to uh, it's really hard for me to

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Speaker 1: accept that other people like me and other people want

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Speaker 1: to be around me and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it made being friends with my exist friends really tough,

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Speaker 1: or at least it made it really tough for me

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Speaker 1: to see that they liked me in the time that

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Speaker 1: we were in a relationship, and it ended a little

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Speaker 1: catastrophically where I held a lie from them for a

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Speaker 1: really long time and once once I told them about

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Speaker 1: that lie during like a mental health episode. They broke

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Speaker 1: up with me for good reason, frankly, and then they

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Speaker 1: reached out to me and asked to try again, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm okay, we can do that.

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Speaker 1: And when that happened, we both agreed that we would

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Speaker 1: not see or date other people in the meantime. And

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Speaker 1: then their best friend told me that, or the best

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Speaker 1: friend at the time told me that they actually did

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Speaker 1: go on a date with one of our friends and

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Speaker 1: did quote unquote something. So that was a little that

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Speaker 1: was a little a bit of a backstab, and it

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Speaker 1: made the whole BPD part of the life way more

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Speaker 1: difficult to push through because it made me feel like

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Speaker 1: I validated all the facts that the people around me

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Speaker 1: at that time did not did not enjoy my presence

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Speaker 1: all that much. Also, work is a little strange. I

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Speaker 1: work at this it's it's a small company, but it's

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Speaker 1: going to be maybe larger down the road. But I work.

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Speaker 1: I work at like an escape room place, and I

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Speaker 1: fixed the escape rooms. They're kind of like automated escape

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Speaker 1: rooms where just a bunch of drunk drunk children, No

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Speaker 1: not children, drunk drunk adults and kids just like break

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Speaker 1: shit in random fucking ways, and it's it's pretty miserable,

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Speaker 1: but you get to see some pretty fun stuff at

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Speaker 1: times too.

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Speaker 2: America's Escape room engineers are some of its most unsung heroes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, we really are on

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Speaker 1: the front line. We're we're like, we're like uh ups

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Speaker 1: delivery guys during COVID. Obviously we're we're on the same tire.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely add or above that level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, one hundred percent. I think the thing that

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Speaker 1: I've wanted to talk about the most, because you got

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Speaker 1: a lot of experience in this, is traveling alone. Sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: because uh, I've I've my my friend group at home

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, you I I appreciate all the lore that

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Speaker 2: you just dropped on yourself. I feel like I got

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Speaker 2: I feel like I very concisely just learned a lot

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Speaker 2: about you in a short period of time. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: don't you No, No, no either, But I hope that

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Speaker 2: didn't come off passive aggressive ily No, do you have

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Speaker 2: nothing to be sorry for? Wow? Okay, hmmm, how old

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Speaker 2: are you, Matt?

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty two. I'm gonna be twenty three next month.

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Speaker 2: All right, cool man. Well, would you just graduate school

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Speaker 2: or you've been just working?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I graduated a little while ago, graduated last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually hanging out with my with one of my

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Speaker 1: and I've been showing I've been showing them a couple

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Speaker 2: So I actually, well, yeah, you dropped a lot of lore.

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Speaker 2: I I I'm super down to talk about. I have

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Speaker 2: a lot of thoughts about your particular situation about uh

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Speaker 2: wanting to do stuff alone. But do you I do

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Speaker 2: you see a real therapist to talk about BPD stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: What do they how what do they have to say

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Speaker 2: How do they help you with that?

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Speaker 1: It's really it's kind of tough. I think the way

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Speaker 1: clearly seems like they're they're excited to talk to me

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Speaker 1: which that alone is enough to help me at times,

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to what they tell me, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of you need to learn how to appreciate

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Speaker 1: same exact thing, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like, I love I see we're get see. I

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the solo travel thing, but

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Speaker 2: then we talk about the other stuff and we find

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Speaker 1: All kind of clicks together.

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Speaker 2: Clicks together, right, that's cool. Okay, So you're you're kind

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Speaker 2: of on a mission to you said that the BPD,

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Speaker 2: that is preventing you from like accepting that you have

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Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah, you know how people like dismiss compliments

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Is that a problem you've had forever or

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Speaker 2: is it something you like developed.

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Speaker 1: I definitely had it for a very long time in

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Speaker 2: That's by the you know what's funny is a I A.

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Speaker 2: That's I mean you by by the fact that you're

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Speaker 2: if it was true, that's not a bad reason.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I know it's not a it's not a

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Speaker 2: Well it's it's also I'll actually say this and I'm

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Speaker 2: hold on, I'm I'm I were veering off track of

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Speaker 2: I just said. There's no track at all. It's all

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Speaker 1: What I've learned from the show for sure, is that

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Speaker 1: I YEA, that's what I b that's that's what I

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Speaker 2: Right right, Bro, That's what I was on the phone

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Speaker 2: I feel like, learned that from doing this show. So

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not a given necessarily that your parents

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Speaker 2: a given as as you know. But what else does

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Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know if they really have given

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Speaker 1: me much about that, Like they say to just like

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Speaker 1: go out and do the things that that I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the most, Like I I like to make neon signs

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Speaker 1: or not neon signs. I like to make LED signs,

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Speaker 1: and I'm making an LED sign of my radio show

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Speaker 1: also have been making like these little hexagon lights. You

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Speaker 1: know how people have like those hexagon lights that they

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Speaker 2: I have a perfect picture of what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I I I have a three D printer,

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Speaker 1: and I three D print my own and I make

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Speaker 1: them using LED strips.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 1: And one thing, one thing I've been considering doing as

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Speaker 2: enough about stupid me, but uh that your life is

439
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Speaker 2: a train wreck.

440
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Speaker 1: The other thing is like I want to do the

441
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: three D printing thing where I three D printed it's

442
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: a little uh the hexagons and then make them like

443
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: LED signs but on light sits like Etsy actually banned

444
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: three D products three D printed products from their platform recently,

445
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Speaker 1: mostly because there it mostly because all the three D

446
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: printed products that were being sold on there are like garbage.

447
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Speaker 3: You know.

448
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen like those little like three D

449
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Speaker 1: printed dragons?

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know. You know, here's the thing. What

451
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: whether whether or not your market analysis of the things

452
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Speaker 2: that you want to do is rooted in truth or

453
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: not is not to me, the I guess spiritually interesting

454
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: part of the equation. To me, it would be more like, look,

455
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Speaker 2: would you be happier knowing you gave it today? Shot not.

456
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Speaker 1: I've always thought about that, And that's the thing that

457
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: stops me from actually making like the big step into uh,

458
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: into doing stuff like that. It uh. It's a lot

459
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: of people say like, you succeed as long as you try,

460
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's not necessarily true because you

461
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Speaker 1: have to use resources in order to get there in

462
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Speaker 1: the first place. You know, Like I use my time,

463
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Speaker 1: I use my effort, I use money all those sorts

464
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Speaker 1: of things, and those are things that I can't get

465
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Speaker 1: back whether I succeed or fail. And if I fail

466
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Speaker 1: and I get nothing back from it, then what was

467
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Speaker 1: the point of it? All, it's not like it doesn't

468
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Speaker 1: feel like I learned some sort of lesson. It feels

469
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Speaker 1: like I just kind of fiddled my thumbs and walked

470
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Speaker 1: in circles.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that. Yeah, that's uh, that's some deep nihilism.

472
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

473
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: Let's see. Well, okay, let's talk about the solo traveling thing.

474
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: Tell me more about that. Where you where are you

475
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: trying to solo travel to or like, what are you

476
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: trying to do for your solo travels?

477
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Speaker 1: I would like to, Uh, I heard a heart con.

478
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: I actually kind of want to see if I can

479
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: go to hearst con. That stuff sounds really cool.

480
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: I think I think we I think we passed the

481
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Speaker 2: first one, I think, but I think we got got Yeah,

482
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Speaker 2: the next one.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be next year, but I'm down.

484
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Speaker 2: I'll wait next year. Yeah, I'll wait. Definitely there next year,

485
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: but go ahead.

486
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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: No, places like that weird weird, like obscure, weird obscured conventions,

488
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Like there's also a love Craft convention HP Lovecraft wasn't

489
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: wasn't a good guy, but the community around him is

490
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And then there's also like Comic Con and

491
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff or Pax East to Pax West.

492
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: I've never actually been on the western side of the US.

493
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: I've only been in I've only been in New England

494
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Speaker 1: more or less my entire life. So I I would

495
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Speaker 1: like to go out and explore more of what this

496
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: world has. But I feel like I've always locked myself

497
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: down to not having the opportunity to either because of

498
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: school or money or taking time off work stuff like that.

499
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: It feels like, UH, there's a there's a lot of

500
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: convention the phrase that the conventions that I would like

501
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: to go to. I think the main ones right now

502
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: would be like Comic Connor Packs East or Pax West,

503
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: and I would like to do stuff like cost playing

504
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. But UH as UH, there's

505
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: two stuff. There's two things to it. Putting the effort

506
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Speaker 1: in into UH making a costplay is UH is a

507
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: lot of effort, And I feel like I would almost

508
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Speaker 1: embarrass myself by going to UH by going to a

509
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: convention cost playing alone or the other one is just

510
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Speaker 1: like it feels it's impossible to meet people because being

511
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Speaker 1: being alone in a situation makes it feel like you

512
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: don't have the social acceptance of others. So people would

513
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: instantly dismiss you for being like weird or potentially evil,

514
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: well potentially evil.

515
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Well, well, a few counterpoints to that is one, I

516
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: think I don't know what the vibe is at at

517
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Speaker 2: Pas Easter PEX. Well, I don't really know what the

518
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: vibe is that Like, uh, I mean, comic Con is

519
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: like a huge, huge, crazy commercial thing. I don't know.

520
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about packs. But like these littler

521
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: places like the Lovecraft Con and like Herst Con and

522
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: the other shit is like these are specifically places that

523
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: people go to because they're weird and because they feel

524
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: inherently outcasted by who they are. Like that's the fucking

525
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: point is they've inherently create any of these spaces because

526
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: they feel the way that you feel. And then the

527
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: magic of the space is that all those people who

528
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: feel the same way they combine and have this like

529
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: niche interest over which to bond, right, And so it

530
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 2: like it's funny. I was laughing a little bit when

531
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: you were talking, because it's like the thing you're afraid

532
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: of is the point of the thing, you know what I'm.

533
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: Saying, Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, And that's what I

534
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: try to convince myself of. It's like, do you ever

535
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: get lonely when you're when you're traveling around? Like for yeah,

536
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: like the one thing that the one thing that I

537
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: dread the most is like getting a hotel room, setting

538
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: myself up in the hotel room, and then going out

539
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: there and then coming back alone.

540
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, yeah, well let's see. Okay, So where are

541
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: you trying to go to? Packs?

542
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: Frankly anywhere. I haven't had the time to really look

543
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: around for what I've wanted to do because this, uh,

544
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: this change has been a little abrupt. I've been in

545
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: I've been in Rhode Island my whole life, so I

546
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: haven't Uh, I haven't really been able to experience experience

547
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: all that much when it comes to, uh what the

548
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: other states have to offer and what other things there

549
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: are to see beyond what I already know about, Like

550
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Speaker 1: I would like to know more about some more obscure conventions,

551
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: but I don't even know how to hunt them down.

552
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Who do you what do you like? What do you into?

553
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: Love Craft?

554
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: Uh?

555
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, HV Lovecraft is definitely one of them. Gundam's

556
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: another one. Uh. Just a big fan of communities, uh,

557
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: like communities around like computer science, Like, uh, how I

558
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: explain it? I wish I wish there was a lot.

559
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Speaker 2: Second, what what part? What part of the country you

560
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Speaker 2: when you're in Rhode Islands.

561
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in Rhode Island. Actually a quick question, would

562
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: you ever do a show and profit?

563
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to know much about Providence.

564
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm looking at Okay, the Gundam so I'm looking.

565
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find it. I'm on the computer. I'm

566
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: trying to find a thing for you. But well, okay,

567
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: you're in Providence. When is like the Providence? Like I

568
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: feel like every every like city has their own like oh,

569
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: the Liberty City, Anime Convention, Anime and Anime NYC. Here

570
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Speaker 2: we go Anime NYC twenty Javit Center, August twenty first,

571
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: twenty fourth. So here's the thing, right, Look, So if

572
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: I go to Anime NYC, I see they have a discord.

573
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: So I'll go in the discord. If I'm you, I'll

574
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: go in the discord and then I'll kind of scope

575
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: out the culture of the discord and then maybe i'll

576
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: make a little post that's like ooh, or even better,

577
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: one of two things. One of two things. If I'm you,

578
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: I go to the a NYC Discord, I join. I

579
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: make a little post. Hey I'm Matt. Here's the stuff

580
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: I'm into, Here's what I like, whatever, whatever, I'm going alone.

581
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: If anyone wants to meet up, that'd be cool. Blah

582
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: blah blah. You make that post, Okay, maybe someone reaches

583
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: out to you. But get this, I'm not even on this.

584
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm hold on. I'm trying to join it,

585
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: but I'm not even on there. And I already know

586
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: that without even looking that. There's about one hundred other

587
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: people who've made that post already, right, so you could

588
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: go in there and hold on, I'm joining the Anime

589
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: NYC Discord real quick? Wait are you human? Please confirm

590
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: me I'm not a robot. I don't know if I'm

591
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: technically a gecko. What the fuck is up with these captures?

592
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: Now?

593
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: Okay, wants me to drag a thing into a Okay,

594
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna verify the capture. Uh okay, Well I'm in

595
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: the Anime NYC Discord. It's loading and through your birthday?

596
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Hold on? Wait all right, We're fine. No,

597
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to buy nitro nine team. I was

598
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: born in ninth I was born Fuck you May fourth,

599
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six. Good enough, No, I'm not giving you

600
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: my email and password. Just let me look at the

601
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: all right, we're here. Look so look at this right,

602
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: look at look at this, Look at this meetups in NYC.

603
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: Oh introductions, but look at this, look at this this.

604
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm literally I'm on the NYC. Dude, here's the thing

605
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm on. All right, I'm on the n y the

606
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Anime NYC Official Discord, I'm on the intro. I'm on

607
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: the introductions channel on this channel today alone, There's already

608
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: been one part, like every single day leading up to

609
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: this thing, people are writing down like look at this guy,

610
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: not to put him on blast. Hey everyone, my name

611
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: is Stephen. I've gone to a few anime conventions. This

612
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: will be my first time. I'm doing a lot of

613
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: cosplay work with it. I wanted to meet new people

614
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: in the area with similar interests. So fucking you know,

615
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: fire emoji reacted. Send him a DM. Hey, Steven, I

616
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: saw you also like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure where I'm doing

617
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: a how what kind of cosplay do you do? You

618
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it's just this, it's all,

619
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: it's all wait, I'm just, I'm just it's all waiting

620
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: for you. And whether it's the Anime NYC thing or

621
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: it's the love Craft Convention or whatever. For all the

622
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: evil that the internet has done to society, true, I

623
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: really mean this, that's done a lot of good too,

624
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: in in in this particular aspect. So you just got

625
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: to put yourself out there, man, like the potential for

626
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: you to if you if because right, if you just

627
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: go and you don't put fourth inn the effort to

628
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: chat with people on discord beforehand, or go to a

629
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: meetup or say hi to someone, then yes, you risk

630
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: the debilitating moment, your your your fear coming true of

631
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: uh being back home alone in your hotel room. But

632
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: you go to you can maximize that. You can hedge

633
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: very much against this by going on the discord beforehand,

634
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 2: introducing yourself in the thing, finding little events, finding little

635
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: meetups or events at the Lovecraft con where it's you know,

636
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: you're because you're not the only you're. You're insane to

637
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: think you're the only person going to these things alone.

638
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: It's meant for people to convene and get through fucking

639
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: and get this. Get this, Matt, because you've you've never

640
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: done this before. But what's amazing is once you do this,

641
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: the more times you go and you do this, and

642
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: the more times you used to like, Oh, I'm gonna

643
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: go on the discord, I'm gonna message these people. I'm

644
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: gonna oh I oh. I know how to the middle

645
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: of a conversation is always easy. It's the beginning and

646
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: the end that are tough. I know how to initiate

647
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: conversations with people. I know what to, you know whatever.

648
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: And also, by the way, as you do this, you're

649
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: gonna encounter a lot of people who are assholes. Because

650
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: that's just yeah, that's.

651
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: The one thing I'm afraid of.

652
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Speaker 2: And I have a solution, and it's I know what

653
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: you mean. Okay, You're gonna encounter a lot of assholes,

654
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: and you might get really unlucky. And the first person

655
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: you try to talk to you might get really unlucky. Matt.

656
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: And you're work, you're at the convention, and you're in

657
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: your costume and you're of vulnerable, and you're like, the

658
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: first person you go to try to, You're like, you

659
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: build up the courage to talk to might be an asshole.

660
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: You might get unlucky with that, but they're but the

661
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: you just got to learn that you got you. That's

662
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: almost the skill in and of itself. So you have

663
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: to learn to like brush that off. Like that's that

664
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: guy's problem. I don't I put I put forth. I

665
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: am at a fucking convention where the point of the

666
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: thing is to convene. God damn it, I know I

667
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: am not. And even if this guy whatever, he has

668
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: his own thing, he doesn't want to convene, I'm gonna

669
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: brush that off and I'm gonna find the people who

670
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: are there to convene because I know they're there. And

671
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: you just have to kind of code your brain to

672
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: be you know, understand the the like this is like

673
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: how do I say this? The data is on your

674
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: side because you need to keep putting yourself out there

675
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: and keep trying, and eventually you will find the person

676
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: who likes the same anime as you, and then all

677
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: of a sudden, maybe that person is like a really cool,

678
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: wonderful time is on the other side of you putting

679
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: yourself out there and brushing off a few unpleasant people.

680
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: It's just there. It's inevitable. I mean, that's why these

681
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: fucking things exist, So so I hope you do that

682
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: whatever it is.

683
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Uh.

684
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: And and there's there's just there's just ways to do

685
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: it and make it easier for yourself.

686
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're you're You're definitely not wrong. It's it's

687
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: really just like the.

688
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: The mental of it, the mental.

689
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: Of it, and the money of it too.

690
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, of course, are you like it's hard? Go ahead?

691
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: Uh?

692
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: Uh Sagan, No, go ahead?

693
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: What were you were saying it's hard?

694
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just like the money of it at all,

695
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: is like that's dedicating a lot of effort only for

696
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: a chance. Like you know, it's not none of it

697
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: is guaranteed, none of it is uh set in stone.

698
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of groundwork that you can do,

699
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: like just what you're explaining. And I've tried stuff like that.

700
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I've I've gone to like meetup, dot com and all

701
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in order to try to find

702
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: like groups in order to get a get connected with.

703
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: But it's hard to It feels like it's hard to

704
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: make myself be a person that someone else would like

705
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: to convene with. Uh. And I I think that's mostly

706
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: just because it's in my head, But I strike myself

707
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: as a person who is not interesting to other people. Why, uh,

708
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: mental illness?

709
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: Sure, hmm hmmm mm hmm. Yeah, you know, I know,

710
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: I just kind of went off on you about a

711
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: lot of like logistical things.

712
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: No, I know your advice is good.

713
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, well no, I I I well, I

714
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: I went off on you about a lot of logistical things.

715
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: But it's funny that you said that because I am

716
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: aware that, like, mm, the question is not a logistical one.

717
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: It's a mental It's like a it's a mental game.

718
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like it's tough to just walk up to

719
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: some person that you just don't know and initiate a

720
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: conversation because I don't know how to do that without

721
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: uh about it coming across as like weird or unsettling.

722
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: You know.

723
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: But isn't that the whole point of the anime? Because

724
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: you're a cosplayer.

725
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I I want to get into costplaying. I've

726
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: done a few things for before COVID, but then obviously

727
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: life got in the way with like school and everything.

728
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: Isn't that though, Isn't it the whole point of the anime?

729
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Convention is that you go up to someone and you're like,

730
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: oh shit, your Junji patoa from uh from from uh

731
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: from Nintendo Fiesta and then you and then what that's

732
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: the end and then you guys start talking about life,

733
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

734
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

735
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: Is that the whole that's the whole point. That's why

736
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: everyone loves Halloween is it's much easier to get laid

737
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: because everyone has like, yeah, you know, you have openings

738
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: to talk to people more than anywhere any other time

739
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: because everyone's wearing these costumes.

740
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: That's not a bad point. Yeah, I know, I know.

741
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: A lot of the yeah, sorry, go ahead.

742
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: A lot of the battle is to a lot of

743
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: the battle is just just like turn off your brain

744
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: from the negative things that you're telling yourself and to

745
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: uh push yourself and go out there anyway, because even

746
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: if it's a negative experience, like I like I said before,

747
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: even though I shut it down, was like, uh even

748
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: if you try, Uh that's enough, Like you won even

749
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: if you tried.

750
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: And also the money thing I'm looking because well, okay,

751
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: let's i Rhode Island Anime Convention has passed. But yeah,

752
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: but like the shit like this exists, like look at this.

753
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: So the Rhode Island Anime Convention Facebook group. How many

754
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: fucking people are just posting in this Facebook. I mean

755
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: there's there's you can probably get away with with doing

756
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: ship like this over a weekend without having to spend

757
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: a ship ton of money. But again, I I think,

758
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: I think, I think the logistics of it is not

759
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: the thing as much as it is, like, yeah, the

760
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: the mental of it.

761
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the the like mental effort of it all.

762
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. Hmmm. Man, I don't know. I wish,

763
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I had, I wish I I

764
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: wish I could tell you anything other than like just

765
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: a Nike, just do it. I only have my own

766
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: personal experience to draw from. But I do know that

767
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: people study this ship, and I think it'll probably be

768
00:42:53,400 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: some combination of like it was, some combination of doing

769
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: it scared, as they say, and then realizing that it's

770
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: not as bad as you thought it was. And again,

771
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean you're in like, dude, here's like people by

772
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: the way, no know this, Matt, The people posting in

773
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: that discord and the people going to these events. There's

774
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: people who have probably even probably there's bro there's people

775
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 2: who hate themselves more than you hate yourself with more

776
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: social anxiety than you have that are going to these

777
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: fucking things. You know.

778
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not wrong.

779
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: It's not wrong. Do with do with that information what

780
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: you will. But yeah, m hmm. I hope you do it.

781
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: I really do. I hope you do it.

782
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to try to push myself to do

783
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: it soon.

784
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: I hope you do. And just remember that, please just

785
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: promise me that, like if you the the the.

786
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: Uh?

787
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: Can I can? I can? I actually steal something from

788
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: a from a podcast that I was listening to yesterday

789
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: and tell it to you. Okay, I was listening to

790
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: this is shout out this Uh, this is this guy

791
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: I really like. His name is Naval Robbie Kant. He

792
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 2: talks about it. You know who that is. No, I don't, Okay,

793
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna completely steal what he's saying and say it

794
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: on my own podcast. Shout out Noval Ravicon, he rocks.

795
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: He was talking about like, Okay, so in like all right,

796
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: So everything going on with you, I think is like

797
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: comes from like social anxiety and ship it comes from

798
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: like prehistoric biological conditioning, right, like our biology. Our biology

799
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: has not kept up with the modern world that we

800
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: live in and in the prehistoric world, when we were

801
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: in like tribes and ship, social anxiety was very necessarily

802
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: because if you were like like, if you did try

803
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: to make friends with someone and they didn't like you

804
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: and it didn't work out, you actually were fucked because

805
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: you could only there were only like a few people

806
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: to talk to or go on a date with or whatever,

807
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: and if you were shunned from your tribe, you were

808
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: just fucked. You were left out to die, like like,

809
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: like everything your social anxiety was signaling to you was

810
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: actually correct.

811
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: But there's billions of people now.

812
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: But now we live in the modern world where it

813
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: doesn't fucking matter because if you are at this anime

814
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: convention and you try to say hi to a guy

815
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: and he's you know, shrugs, shrugs, you off, it doesn't matter.

816
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: You know, there's you, there's you have infinite infinite iterations

817
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: right on which to get it right, and you only

818
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: need one you only you can reach. You can go

819
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: and talk to like five p and a five of

820
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: them are jerks. It doesn't matter because if the sixth

821
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: it's like, oh hey, oh cool, oh I love oh

822
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: oh wait yo, you made this hexagon thing. This is

823
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: fucking cool. Which, by the way, will happen. And you

824
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: know you just need that, You just need that to

825
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: happen once for your brain to be like, oh shit,

826
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: this I I okay, I haven't. I have like evidence

827
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: now for myself of what can be if I get

828
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: over the the hurdle.

829
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Uh it's true.

830
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, dude, I I hope you do it. I

831
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: really do. I think. Uh, there's I it's I don't.

832
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't like solo traveling as much anymore because it

833
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: it's it's intense. But I I think like, if you've

834
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: never done it before, the feeling of putting yourself out there,

835
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: meeting someone new and having an experience that you didn't

836
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: think you could have is great. And it just happens

837
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: as a byproduct of having the like courage to put

838
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: yourself out there. So I hope. I hope you do it.

839
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: You know. And also you're not I only I've only

840
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: been talking to you for forty five minutes, but you

841
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 2: present to me as a well put together a person,

842
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like if we were having

843
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: this conversation and I and I felt off put by you,

844
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: Even if I felt off put by you, I still

845
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: would say all these things, because even because I gotta

846
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: tell you something, Matt, you could be like three hundred

847
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: percent crazier you could, Matt, I think you could be

848
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 2: five times as crazy as you actually are and still

849
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: make a lot of friends at this anime convention. I

850
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: believe that sincerely, you're.

851
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Like, I think it easier.

852
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: You're no, You're no, You're nowhere near past to the

853
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: amount of crazy that you have to be to be

854
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: unable to make friends at an anime convention.

855
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: That's true. What, Yeah, I just think that, like, if

856
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: I was crazier, it would actually be easier to meet

857
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: people because it sounds like you're more of an interesting personality.

858
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: Well, no, it would be easier. You know, there's like

859
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: an optimal level of conscientiousness that a human being can

860
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: have because we all know, we all know guys who

861
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: are like, have zero conscientiousness and say what they just

862
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: say whatever comes to them, and they're like really annoying

863
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: and they do they just do shit right, And because

864
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: of that they have a lot of people who are

865
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: like that guy fucking sucks and is annoying. But also

866
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: because of that, they just they end up taking more

867
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: chances and they leave they live more interesting lives, and

868
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: they are less concerned with how annoying people think they

869
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: are because they're just they have low They're not even

870
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: thinking about it. They just have no conscientiousness. They're just

871
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: hurling themselves into the universe. And that leads people into

872
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: into but it also leads them into opportunity. And then

873
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: on the opposite side is the guy who just never

874
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: says anything to anyone who takes any chances ever, because oh,

875
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: because there might be danger. Right, You don't want to

876
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: be that guy either, So you want to You want

877
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: the you want and I think you're actually the I

878
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: just from talking to you. You're you want to aim.

879
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: You want to aim somewhere in the middle where you're

880
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: conscientious enough that you're not like being a complete uh

881
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: insane person, but you're not too conscientious that you're never

882
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: putting yourself out there at all. You want to be

883
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: somewhere acutely in the middle. You want to be somewhere

884
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: acutely in the middle, edging towards a lack of conscientiousness.

885
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: Possibly, Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think it's better

886
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: to be on the lack of conscientiousness, better to.

887
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: Be on the lack of conscience too. Much at least

888
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: for you, maybe not.

889
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: For better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

890
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: Well better for you, maybe not better for society though.

891
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: Know yeah, well yeah, yeah, people people.

892
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: On the people who lack conscientiousness of any kind. They

893
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: they live, they they personally do well and then fuck

894
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: fuck up a bunch of shit. But who can who there, Whoker,

895
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about anime codvention, not you know who gives

896
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: a ship? Matt? Are you still there?

897
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still here.

898
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this conversation?

899
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty happy with it. I'm I'm glad I

900
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: was able to finally reach out to you. I I've

901
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: called a bunch of times over the last i think

902
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: like maybe two years, so this is the first call

903
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: that I've actually gotten in on which I'm I'm so

904
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: happy about to be honest.

905
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you do it. Please if you go, Please,

906
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: if you do this and it works out, send me

907
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: a send me a thing anywhere I look at stuff.

908
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: Send me like an Instagram. I don't actually I don't

909
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: look at the text on this phone number. But send

910
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: me like an Instagram or ah, I mean, Instagram is

911
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: probably the best way to do it. But if I

912
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: got a message from you that was like, oh, I

913
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: went to uh piss con and I made a bunch

914
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: of pissed friends, I'd be like, that's awesome.

915
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm gonna I'm gonna try, and I'm gonna

916
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: try to update you on what happens. Okay, see what

917
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: See how this changes the course of my life in

918
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: the future.

919
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: Okay, please do If you try and someone's kind of

920
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: dismissive of you, please try again.

921
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be hard to do.

922
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: In fact, go into it with the expectation that people

923
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: will be pitted. No, actually, don't do that. That's a

924
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: self fulfilling prophecy.

925
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's what we're trying to avoid.

926
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: In fact, that is actually absolutely what we're trying to avoid. Yeah,

927
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: you strike me as a smart guy.

928
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Man.

929
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: You should you should really, Yeah, you should go for it?

930
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: All right.

931
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I think that's uh, I think that's kind of what

932
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: I need.

933
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: Good man. I wonder what happened to that guy with

934
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: the hook. I don't know what he's doing now, I remember,

935
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't I'm actually got let me look him up.

936
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: I remember his I'm not gonna say his name on

937
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: the podcast. But I actually do remember his name. Let's

938
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: see what happened to him. You want to sit on

939
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: the line with me, Well, I see what happened to him?

940
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, no, no, no, absolutely?

941
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Uh wait, maybe I don't remember his name. Hold on?

942
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: Do I fuck?

943
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: Uh?

944
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

945
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: Here wait do I No? No, I don't remember. And

946
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: I can't just search guy with a hook because I don't.

947
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: That's not gonna work.

948
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys with hooks.

949
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys with hooks. Yeah, hold on, wait,

950
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: that's his fucking I'm trying to say is I'm trying

951
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: to not say his name? Okay, fuck it, we never

952
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: you know what, Let's just assume he's dead. No, he's

953
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he's probably not dead. He's probably he's old.

954
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: That's a good enough that's a good enough. That's a

955
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: good enough answer for me as to what happened.

956
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: When when you're old, you're already dead.

957
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: Kind of that's not true. You're the opposite of dead,

958
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: you're alive.

959
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: True. I guess it's fair. I think it's I think

960
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: it's more like you. You you don't have the ability

961
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: to go out and do as much. You know, I'm

962
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm gonna be twenty three, and I'm gonna

963
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: be really afraid of when my frontal lobe develops.

964
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: Matt, I only from personal experience. About a month ago,

965
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: about two months ago, I decided that there was no

966
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 2: point in ever exercising again because I was just gonna

967
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: die anyway, like severely lost and not. I only I

968
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: only I don't want to be like toxic positivity or

969
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: really do I. I just I just only have my

970
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: own personal experience with existential nihilism to draw off of.

971
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: And I truly I felt as though there was no

972
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: point in like exercising because I was just gonna die anyway.

973
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: Way It's and now I'm like, that's insane. I don't

974
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: I have all I have all the same information that

975
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: I had then, but I just don't. I just feel

976
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: life makes it. I just I never I thought I

977
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: thought I was gonna die. I didn't think I would

978
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: be able to get out of that. And not that

979
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 2: my personal experience is gonna reflect yours. But I guess

980
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: I just think that from from my own perspective. Since

981
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna die and I didn't, it

982
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna whw ever change and now I like, when

983
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: I hear somebody else in it, I'm like, well, okay,

984
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: maybe they'll have things will work out for them too.

985
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: So I can only again, I only have my own experience.

986
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: But I hope you go to the the furry con

987
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: or whatever it is you want to do.

988
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: And I would not mind going to a furry con.

989
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: Go to a fucking furry Knes guarantee you're gonna be that.

990
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be the only person there that hates themselves.

991
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: M hm, that's true. There's a lot of people that

992
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: hte themselves in this age.

993
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Matt. Is there anything else you want to say to

994
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?

995
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: Uh? I want to say, I love your content, love

996
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: what you do for everybody here. I think you're really

997
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: good for putting into perspective how I don't want to

998
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: say how life could be worse, but how how how

999
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: everything is a matter of perspective.

1000
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: I hope.

1001
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: So, I hope so that, And pay attention to who

1002
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: says bless you when you sneeze.

1003
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: Pay attention to who says bless you when you sneeze? Yeah,

1004
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: what does that mean?

1005
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: That's it? No, there's nothing else to it. That's just it.

1006
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, good luck, Matt, give me, give me

1007
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: a ups you.

1008
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: All right, all right? Thanks wild later.

1009
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm in, by the way, I I have to, I

1010
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 2: have to vehemently disagree with Matt's statement. Notice, who says

1011
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: bless you when you sneeze? That's just that's that's a

1012
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: psychopathic thing to do. Don't do that, I I I

1013
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: that's I think that's a crazy thing to do. I mean,

1014
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: I know what it means. It's like take stock of

1015
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 2: like who's watching out? But even even I don't, I don't.

1016
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm I think keeping score is not a good idea.

1017
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: I think it's bad for the soul to keep score

1018
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 2: in a in an abstract sense, I think it's bad

1019
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: for the soul. So I don't. I don't agree to

1020
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: pay attention to who says bless you when they see.

1021
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: Imagine you're in a fucking argument with your wife and

1022
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: you're like, well you didn't say bless you when I sneeze.

1023
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: It's like, are you crazy? I think keeping score only

1024
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of in my life when I've

1025
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 2: kept score. I definitely have of I totally have kept scoring.

1026
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: I think it's a natural thing. To keep score, but

1027
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if it's done good things

1028
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: for me, So I don't know. Maybe I'm gonna go

1029
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 2: to a furrykidvit I have an idea for a video

1030
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: I want to I think I have an idea for

1031
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: a I'm working on the the Tijuana thing first, and

1032
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: then I have another thing and then another thing after that,

1033
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: but then after that, I want to make a video

1034
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: about people ask Since I've been doing this show, people

1035
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: have asked me if I'm a furry, and I don't

1036
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: know how to answer that question. Because I am literally

1037
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: a man dressed as an animal. Does that make me

1038
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: a furry? Am I a furry? I think I have

1039
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: to go talk to furries to figure out if I

1040
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: technically am a furry. I think gonna make a fun video.

1041
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: This is a good chance. So this is a good

1042
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: opportunity for me to uh plug my YouTube channel. Go

1043
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: follow me on YouTube YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever.

1044
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: That's the thing, that's the thing I'm the most excited

1045
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: about in life right now is making these intentional YouTube videos.

1046
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: So go go check those out. I'm gonna try to

1047
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: do one a month. I just I was in t one.

1048
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: I did gonna do that one, have another one one

1049
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: after that. It's gonna be good. All right. That is

1050
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: the end of these post call thoughts. Hi. What's your name?

1051
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 5: Hi'o? Rat?

1052
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: Rat? What's up? Rat? How's life?

1053
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 5: Life is good? Sorry? I also kind of freaking out.

1054
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 5: I did not expect to get through.

1055
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't have to freak out about anything, Rat, This

1056
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: is gonna be, This is gonna be perfectly fine.

1057
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 5: Beautiful, beautiful. I'm good. I am just living life.

1058
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: Out in Seattle right now.

1059
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, things are a little bit stressful.

1060
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: I just I feel like I, you know, I completed

1061
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 5: college and that was like a big goal and then

1062
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 5: moved out here for like a job, and it's like,

1063
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 5: well it kind of, you know, now what kind of

1064
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: had reached all of my goals that I feel like

1065
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 5: so far, and it's like, okay, now I'm doing the thing,

1066
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 5: and now it's a little bit stressful as having nothing

1067
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: else for I don't know. I don't want to say

1068
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 5: I'm nothing else to look forward to, but you know, m.

1069
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 2: What job did you get?

1070
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 5: I'm a meteorologist? Oh cool, I forecast for the weather

1071
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 5: out here?

1072
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1073
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh cool? Well, I guess you have a lot. I

1074
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: guess you have a lot of weather to look forward to. Yeah.

1075
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, the weather right here has kind of insane, but

1076
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 5: seeing like all the mountains out here is super beautiful.

1077
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 5: So so yeah, it's been great.

1078
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: Is that what you wanted to do? Is that was

1079
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: like one of your big life goals?

1080
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yeah, I've always been into weather since I was

1081
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 5: a kid. I was really into like severe weather and

1082
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 5: like tornadoes and everything. We don't get really much tornadoes

1083
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 5: out here, but it's still Yeah, definitely achieved that life goal.

1084
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: So now, uh, you know, I kind of moved out

1085
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 5: here because none of my family or friends are out here,

1086
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 5: but I feel like I've been able to meet some people.

1087
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, pretty much kind of at that now what

1088
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 5: stage in life? Been trying to get out there and

1089
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 5: kind of do a little bit of the soul driving myself,

1090
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 5: I mean just around the area. But yeah, definitely it's

1091
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 5: been a little bit rough in that sense.

1092
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck was I gonna say? Yeah? I do

1093
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: think that having things in life to look forward to

1094
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: is an important part of like, you know, stability and shit. Well,

1095
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 2: I mean I knowess this is a maybe a stupid question,

1096
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: like what do you want to have to look forward to.

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: That I feel like is where my problem comes in. Definitely,

1098
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: like wanting to like travel and like see the world

1099
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 5: and that kind of thing, but it's hard because, like

1100
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 5: you know, you just get your first job and like

1101
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 5: kind of settle down a new area for a bit,

1102
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: and like I know, in the future I'll be able

1103
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 5: to kind of move around jobs and like you know,

1104
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 5: maybe you just kind of see different places in the world.

1105
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: But for right now, it's like it seems like that's

1106
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 5: like kind of a long term you know, like oh,

1107
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 5: by the time I'm old, I want to have done this,

1108
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 5: I guess. But I'm also I also have VPD, like

1109
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 5: the first color, so a lot of the things is

1110
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 5: for me is like the unstable like identity and like

1111
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 5: sense of self. So it's kind of hard to know exactly,

1112
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 5: you know, like you said, like what goals or what

1113
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 5: things I want to do with life. That's kind of

1114
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 5: where a lot of the struggle comes in.

1115
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: M hm m hm hm hmm.

1116
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've been kind of doing some little trips around

1117
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 5: Washington's which is so beautiful out here. That's been nice,

1118
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 5: but it is kind of rough, like especially kind of

1119
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 5: doing a lot of it by myself. You know, it's like,

1120
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 5: well I have nobody to share, like, you know, this

1121
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: beautiful moment with kind of things that's been a little

1122
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 5: bit hard as well.

1123
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: What what what are you doing to put yourself in

1124
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: situations where you're around other people.

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Speaker 5: I've been going to some uh there's like a little

1126
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 5: community like park thing where I went to like a

1127
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 5: little pick a ball instruction class and kind of met

1128
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 5: some people there. Just kind of trying to do like

1129
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 5: little like events and things like at that are going around.

1130
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 5: I went to like this one event called like Skip

1131
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: the Small Talk, and if anybody throughout I think it's

1132
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 5: just like throughout the US is looking for uh, kind

1133
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 5: of a place to meet people. I would definitely recommend that.

1134
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 4: That was great.

1135
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 5: I didn't really make any like lasting friendships through that,

1136
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 5: but it was awesome experienced. So things like.

1137
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: That, Well, the lasting friendships that you'll make are are

1138
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: gonna be like a one off event is cool. I

1139
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: think it's I think it's like good to do sit

1140
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: like that, But making lasting friendships is like gonna be

1141
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: as a result of finding a community that regularly meets

1142
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: and then showing up there consistently for a period of time,

1143
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: Like I mean like a like a sport league or

1144
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: an art thing or like like something that you go

1145
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: to once or twice a week. Yeah, do you have

1146
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: anything like that? Do you have like a I mean

1147
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: especially I mean, fuck, you're in Seattle. It's a huge,

1148
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: major walkable city, the Seattle walkable city.

1149
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm like kind of like a little bit outside

1150
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 5: of Seattle. I guess I'm not like right in the

1151
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 5: downtown area, but i'd say it is.

1152
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's anything. I mean that's great, right because

1153
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: I I do you have anything like that? Do you

1154
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: have like a hobby like a fucking play pinball or

1155
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: sing or anything like that.

1156
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 5: I used to be like kind of play an instrument,

1157
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 5: So I've been kind of looking into getting back into

1158
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 5: that out here. Yeah, I feel like that'd be a

1159
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: good community to be a part of. But other than that,

1160
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get back into sports. I did gymnastics,

1161
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 5: but that's not really you know, something kind of be

1162
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 5: like on a sports team with or anything. Right now,

1163
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 5: So trying to look into doing something like that, but

1164
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 5: not at the moment.

1165
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1166
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1167
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: I think that's that's the that's the that's the key

1168
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: is being part of something that like regularly meets.

1169
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: Mmma, that's true, that's true.

1170
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: And then also it's not us that you have to

1171
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: go to something regularly meets. And then when you first

1172
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: get there and everyone else already knows each other and

1173
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: you kind of don't, you have to be okay with

1174
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: feeling uncomfortable for at least the first month that you're

1175
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: regularly attending. I found that to be the case in

1176
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: most of the times of my life where I have

1177
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: been because if you go, if you go there and

1178
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: you're immediately like, oh, fuck all these people and this

1179
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: is I don't know, this is I feel good by

1180
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: the way that happens every time, And for me, every

1181
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: time I've gone to like a fucking I joined a

1182
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: coworking space, I was doing stand up, I played in

1183
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: video game tournaments, And every time you show up for

1184
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: the first time, you're like, I feel so uncomfortable that

1185
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I should be here. I don't think

1186
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: this is it. And you have every time you have

1187
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: to push yourself past that. In order to feel like

1188
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 2: you're part of the gang. You need you need like

1189
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: a month to solidify yourself, you know, mm hm.

1190
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 5: Just keep showing up and kind of trust that it

1191
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 5: will work out. Definitely. Yeah, I guess, like I I'm

1192
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 5: like wondering like how you would get over that, because

1193
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: that has definitely been something that I've experienced as well

1194
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: as like, oh yeah, everybody else here is already way

1195
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 5: close with each other and I'm just like, you know,

1196
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 5: kind of barging on their time.

1197
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: Do you have that thought on the first day?

1198
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, maybe that's just kind of like

1199
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 5: a persistent thought that like I'm like, maybe it's just

1200
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 5: kind of feeling that welcome kind of thing. But I

1201
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 5: feel like, yeah, I've definitely had that on the first day,

1202
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 5: and like.

1203
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: This very natural thought where what was the context? What

1204
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: was the group?

1205
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 5: I mean even just kind of going to like the

1206
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 5: like the part kind of near me, like they have

1207
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 5: like a bunch of like different events and things like

1208
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 5: obviously like the little like pick a ball thing was

1209
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 5: just kind of like a one off, but like, I

1210
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 5: don't know, just kind of trying to be a part

1211
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 5: of things here and there. I guess I did kind

1212
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 5: of like bounce around between like a couple of different but.

1213
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: That's which is which is fine, by the way, I mean,

1214
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: I but that's why I think you should do, right,

1215
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: is bounce around a bunch of different ship until you

1216
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: find one that you naturally gravitate yourself towards.

1217
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 5: True true. How was the coworking thing, because I was

1218
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 5: kind of looking into doing something like that, especially if

1219
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 5: I'm able to be working remote like I do, I

1220
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 5: would love to see more of the world and everything,

1221
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 5: and I kind of been looking into that a little

1222
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 5: bit recently.

1223
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: Truthfully, it's been one of the best decisions I've made,

1224
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: uh in in my life recently. It's been great. Okay,

1225
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: it's been I I yeah, it's it's kind of given

1226
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: me actually exactly what I needed.

1227
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 5: Hmmm. Interesting. Did you kind of like do that like internationally,

1228
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 5: Like how was that experience, because it's very intriguing to me.

1229
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 5: I know, they're kind of all over the place.

1230
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 4: Internationally, Yeah, just like I don't know, there's a lot

1231
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 4: like kind of just like within the US and stuff,

1232
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 4: but I know there was also like a lot like

1233
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 4: France kind of thing, like.

1234
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: I've never I've never been to a cover well I

1235
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: joined one, you know where I live, but international, I

1236
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: mean internationally, like you know, I've I've like spent time

1237
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: in like hostels and uh shit like that that have

1238
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: kind of similar similar vibes. But what your meet You

1239
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 2: work in an office?

1240
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,879
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, there's a lot of like remote work available

1241
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 5: with meteorology, but I am in office right now.

1242
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: Do you go? You go in five times a week?

1243
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 3: Yes?

1244
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 2: You talk to people? Are the people of your age there?

1245
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1246
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 5: Actually, surprisingly there is decent amount of people my age there.

1247
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 5: It is a smaller kind of company, so it has

1248
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 5: been kind of you know, I do try and make friends.

1249
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 5: I talked to a lot of people there. It seems

1250
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 5: like it's very work friends, you know, like we kind

1251
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 5: of all get along at work and we've flung out

1252
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 5: a few times outside of work.

1253
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: But you're looking for deeper connections, Yeah, exactly are you?

1254
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: Are you dating anyone?

1255
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 5: I am not. I'm not really looking to but I'm not.

1256
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: Okay. Feels a little.

1257
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, sorry. It definitely just kind of feels

1258
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 5: a little hard, especially like kind of going through those changes,

1259
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 5: you know, of leaving college and then I was so

1260
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: happy that I was able to like move away from home, and.

1261
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:51,919
Speaker 4: I don't.

1262
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 5: Not happy that I don't have like my friends and

1263
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 5: family here, But you know, it feels like a fresh start,

1264
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 5: but it's like I kind of feel like I've lost Yeah. No, no,

1265
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 5: it definitely feels a little bit isolating sometimes.

1266
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: How old are you, I'm twenty three, twenty three, it's

1267
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: twenty three. Do you live alone?

1268
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

1269
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a car?

1270
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 5: I do have a car.

1271
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: Do you work in the city.

1272
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 5: I do not know, but I'm close enough to the

1273
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 5: city where I can go.

1274
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: What time do you get off of work?

1275
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 5: Usually two pm? I'm usually a.

1276
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: Working You can off work at two pm?

1277
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 3: Yes?

1278
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, actually just got off of it ago.

1279
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: Dude, do do I mean, look, Seattle, this is what

1280
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: this is kind of what I do. And I just

1281
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: like when I try to when I'm in feeling feeling

1282
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: like this, especially in a city like Seattle, it is like, dude,

1283
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: just go every night of the week, just go do something.

1284
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: Like there's just shit going on all the time, and

1285
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: there's a lot and by the way, you know, look,

1286
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: I know, I know money is tight around, but like

1287
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of shit that's free that you can do,

1288
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: you know, or cheap. I mean, we had the guy

1289
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: last episode go to the fucking five dollars basement show.

1290
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: You know, just like go do go do things. Just

1291
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 2: go do his When did you move to Seattle?

1292
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 5: About ten months ago? So I've just kind of settled

1293
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 5: down here and.

1294
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: What what do you have? Do you? Okay? So like

1295
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: what's the day for you? Like you get off work

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: at two pm? And then what do you do?

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? I do. I have been kind of dealing with

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 5: like a little bit of like kind of illness stuff

1299
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 5: recently that's kind of sort of blare up. So I

1300
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 5: have a lot of like doctor's appointments at the moment.

1301
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 5: But usually I try to kind of like go for

1302
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 5: like little walks and stuff after work and like kind

1303
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 5: of like get any like chore the grocery shopping done,

1304
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 5: like you know, kind of all have that done during

1305
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 5: the work week and then we're weekend focus on more

1306
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 5: of like recreation kind of thing.

1307
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 3: That makes sense?

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: Sure, sure? And I actually, by the way, the the

1309
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: frequency actually to me is not as important, Like I know,

1310
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: I said go out every day of the fucking week.

1311
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: But like if all you if all you have in

1312
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: you within your you know, health limitations is twice a

1313
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: week or once a week, then you know, take you

1314
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: twice a week or once a week, and you know,

1315
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: do shit. Try to find a community that you're like, Okay,

1316
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: I like, I like this. I'll go I'll keep going

1317
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: to this because I mean that's the salt. I think

1318
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: that's the sauce of life is finding something like that.

1319
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, you feel uncomfortable, and I mean, if you're lucky,

1320
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: you find a place that just always want some Some

1321
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: communities are more welcoming than others by nature, but even

1322
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: even the ones that are welcoming, even if, even if

1323
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: even if you show up to improv night and everyone's like, hey,

1324
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: what's your name, you still feel a little weird. It's

1325
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna happen no matter what. But right, you just keep

1326
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: showing up.

1327
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, yeah I like that.

1328
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: You go do improv. I go do improv. You can

1329
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: hang out with a bunch of other a bunch of

1330
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: crazy people somewhere and there's a bunch of do you

1331
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 2: have to participate specifically with.

1332
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 5: The improv because that's I don't have I'm not like

1333
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 5: funny like you and a lot of other people are.

1334
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: Then then fuck improv. Don't go don't go to improv,

1335
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: to go go to a sewing circle, just anything.

1336
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 5: You know, Okay, I mean, yeah, that's the watch. I

1337
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 5: just was always kind of a little bit intimidated that

1338
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 5: I'd be you know, dragged up on stage or anything

1339
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 5: like that.

1340
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: You know, this is I'm gonna sorry, I'm gonna go

1341
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 2: on a rant. This is like, I know, we're all

1342
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: scared that we're gonna like live in the computer forever,

1343
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: but we're there's you don't have to live in the

1344
01:13:55,439 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 2: computer forever. There's the whole time. There's motherfuck bucks in

1345
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: places in cities I don't know. I mean, maybe not

1346
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: even in just cities, but there's people gathering and doing things,

1347
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 2: and a lot of them doing it, you know, for free,

1348
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 2: and it gets out there if you look for it.

1349
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: So just I hope you look for it. There's people

1350
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: going to pinball tournaments. You can go to a pinball

1351
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: there's you can probably go in Seattle. You can go

1352
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: to a pinball tournament four times a week. Probably.

1353
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 5: That's true. Man, I need to get good at pinball.

1354
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: No, you don't. You don't have to do anything at

1355
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: all ever for the rest of your life. That's not true.

1356
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a little true. It's kind of true.

1357
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what's your name again, Go ahead, go ahead.

1358
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think some of it does

1359
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 5: come up a fear of like I do feel like,

1360
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 5: you know, you need to be good at it, Like

1361
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 5: how with the improv like Pinball's like, oh, I'm not

1362
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 5: good at it. So it's a little bit nerve wracking,

1363
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 5: I guess, But I guess you don't have to be

1364
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 5: that just a little bit more.

1365
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: But here's here's here's the thing first. The first of all,

1366
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: the funny thing is is the people who care whether

1367
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: or not you're good at it. I want to use

1368
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: stand up as an example, uh because like like in

1369
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: the stand up comedy community, everyone I think, deep down

1370
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: knows that they're just there to like hang out and

1371
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: have fun and do the fucking jokes. You know, even

1372
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: even people who I think even people who do it

1373
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: professionally and like at a high level. You know, deep down,

1374
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: we're just all there to like have fun and do

1375
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: the thing right, you know. And and when no matter

1376
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: what the thing is, it's like the everyone we're just

1377
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 2: there to have fun and do the thing, Like who

1378
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: gives a fuck if you're good at it or not? Like,

1379
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I don't know where I

1380
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: don't know where I was going.

1381
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 5: With that, Like that like that, thank you.

1382
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 2: Okay, we're all with yeah, but wherever we're just everyone's

1383
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 2: even the people who are really good, and even the

1384
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: people who care about the politics of who's good and

1385
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 2: who's not deep down are just they're there because if

1386
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: they weren't, they'd be at home trying really hard not

1387
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: to uh, not to want to die. You know. It's

1388
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: when it's a better thing to do is to be

1389
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: out of the house, you know.

1390
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 5: True, this is true. Thank you, appreciate your get wisdom.

1391
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: Rat. Is there anything else you want to say to

1392
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?

1393
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 5: I'll share really quick my bacon analogy. I was eating

1394
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 5: a salad one day that had bacon and realized, oh,

1395
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 5: this is a pretty big piece of bacon for the salad.

1396
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, if I was eating like

1397
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 5: a blt and there was like, you know, that same

1398
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 5: size piece of bacon, I'd be like, oh, it's just

1399
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 5: a crumb, that's nothing that compared to what's already on it.

1400
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 5: So I like to use the bacon analogy to appreciate

1401
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 5: that really life is just perspective and maybe that one

1402
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 5: piece of bacon may seem big to you, but some

1403
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:14,480
Speaker 5: people might be small to them, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,

1404
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 5: save our national parks.

1405
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: I like it.

1406
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: I like it. See you're rat, thank you. Thanks. I

1407
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: like things. I like I think you should. I think

1408
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: it's good to do things. You know what. That's my

1409
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 2: that's one of my big that's one of my big Uh.

1410
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I know, I'm all like wishy washy on

1411
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: this show. I'm afraid to express opinions. Maybe I'm not.

1412
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a lie. That's one of my strong opinions.

1413
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: I think it's good to do stuff, and there's a

1414
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: lot of stuff to do, so it's good to do things.

1415
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: You should go do things. Okay, Hey, Hi, what's your name?

1416
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: Hi?

1417
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm Puffy.

1418
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,919
Speaker 2: How are you puffy? That's a cool name, is uh?

1419
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: How'd you get the name puffy?

1420
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: You know, just smoking a lot of weed, being chronically

1421
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 3: on the internet.

1422
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, cool, very cool.

1423
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1424
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the Marshmallow guy.

1425
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like the marshallow guy.

1426
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: What's good with you? Puppy? Pup puffy not puppy. What

1427
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: would you want to talk about today? If you had

1428
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 2: anything that you wanted to talk about today.

1429
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 3: On show? And I'm working, h working, a piece of place. Yeah,

1430
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm kind of nervous. It's been a while since since

1431
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 3: I've been calling. It's been a while since I've been

1432
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 3: watching your stream and yeah, I've just been a fan

1433
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: of you since ship. When did you start on Reddit?

1434
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 3: Like five years ago? Dude, it's been quite a journey, honestly.

1435
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you for hanging in

1436
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: with me for if. I did not think that this

1437
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: would keep last thos long, so I thought I appreciate

1438
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: you hanging in there with me.

1439
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 3: No, dude, it's been great. Sorry, let me get to

1440
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: somewhere a little quieter.

1441
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: Are you. Are you at the pizza place right now?

1442
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I work like right next to the oven, but

1443
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: I'm in the bathroom now.

1444
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh shit, is it busy? Busy?

1445
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: You know it's getting there. We kind of like passed

1446
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: the lunch rush. So I'm just kind of, you know,

1447
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 3: working on my shores, working on dishes, working on the oven.

1448
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1449
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I drive, so this might be a short

1450
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 3: call because I know you, like, you know, you don't

1451
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 3: like people driving.

1452
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 2: I was gonna I'm not keeping you from uh pizza duties,

1453
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: am I?

1454
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 3: No, No, You're you're not keeping me from pizza duties.

1455
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: What's the most uh popular pizza that you guys have?

1456
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 3: Ship? If I give that away, then I'm gonna giveaway

1457
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 3: where I work. It's like uh ship right now? Probably

1458
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 3: the stuff crust right now.

1459
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying. Oh do you work at like a big chain?

1460
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1461
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't have to say if this is it?

1462
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: But I've been I've been uh craving Little Caesars. I

1463
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: haven't had that in a long time.

1464
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 3: Oh you know, before I worked here, I was a

1465
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 3: die hard for Little Caesars. Man that They've always been

1466
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 3: good to me, and people will talk a lot of

1467
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 3: shit on them.

1468
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: Good to you like you used to you used to

1469
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: work at Little Caesars.

1470
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: No, thank goodness, but no, I work for another bigger chain.

1471
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to get it away or nothing.

1472
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 3: But honestly, I've been wanting to talk to you for

1473
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: so long, dude. I've been calling since I got like

1474
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: the courage to start calling, since oh what was her name?

1475
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: Ice cream queen with the ice cream truck.

1476
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I love. I'm not a big I don't you.

1477
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: Everyone knows. I don't remember like names specifically, but Angela,

1478
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:57,839
Speaker 2: I remember her.

1479
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 3: Angela, Angela yes, Oh my goodness. Yeah, she's so cool.

1480
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 3: And honestly, I've been like getting the courage to call

1481
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 3: in because I'm kind of like an introverted person, but

1482
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 3: she just seems so happy and content, I guess yeah,

1483
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 3: And just I don't know, I just envy people like

1484
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 3: that man her and uh the Caveman and uh who else?

1485
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 5: Who else?

1486
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, there's so many people that call into

1487
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 3: your show and they're just such cool people, dude, and

1488
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 3: so like they seem so content with their lives and everything,

1489
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: and it's like, how do I do that?

1490
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: Do that you don't want to just piss you off?

1491
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 3: Yes, No, I mean I'm just more envious than anything,

1492
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 3: because you know, I've I'm only like twenty five, but

1493
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: I've been on this journey of trying to, I don't know,

1494
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 3: just kind of find myself. I guess I really related

1495
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 3: to the last caller as well. I'm not sure if

1496
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: I have people VPD or anything like that. I haven't

1497
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 3: really been diagnosed with anything other than like anxiety depression,

1498
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 3: you know, the common stuff. But uh, I don't know.

1499
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: I just related a lot to him, and just like

1500
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, not knowing if people genuinely like you or

1501
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: being like afraid to like, you know, put yourself out

1502
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 3: there because you don't know, you know, if people are

1503
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 3: genuine or not. I don't know, But yeah, what's you're like?

1504
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: Uh So, if if the previous callers thing was like

1505
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: doing a solo travel thing, what's do you what's your

1506
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: uh an anal analogy to that? Do you have like

1507
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: a thing like that that you're you're trying to do?

1508
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: Dude? Honestly, me and my partner were just talking about this,

1509
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 3: and we because we kind of feel this similar way

1510
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 3: about that. We honestly didn't think that we would make

1511
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 3: it this far in life, and so we kind of

1512
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 3: don't really like know what to do because we didn't

1513
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 3: have such big goals for our life, you know. Honestly,

1514
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 3: at this point, however, I can make enough money to

1515
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: just kind of like fuck off and have a have

1516
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 3: a place for myself in the woods or something, you know,

1517
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: be self sufficient in some way. However, I can make

1518
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 3: that dream happen, honestly, but I don't know. I've been

1519
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: kind of burnt out of like school or college. But

1520
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 3: I know that's probably the most sufficient way that I

1521
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 3: could get to that. But I don't know, I'm kind

1522
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 3: of scared to go back to school because what if

1523
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: I drop out again? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

1524
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 3: I want to just end those people that are very

1525
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 3: just steadfast and know what they want and they are

1526
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 3: just very sure of themselves.

1527
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: It is interesting, I you know, it's I hate being

1528
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: all fucking.

1529
01:23:59,040 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 3: Like.

1530
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't like this podcast as

1531
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: like a self helpy, motivationally thing. I'm just kind of

1532
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,440
Speaker 2: like making observations.

1533
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 3: But like.

1534
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: The whole idea of like a life is about perspective,

1535
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: I do. I feel that way when I see people

1536
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: like when yeah, like that lady Angela Angela with the

1537
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 2: ice cream job, it's like she or she's like she

1538
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 2: delivers the mail and it's like she just because of

1539
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: the perspective she has on life, she's doing better.

1540
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1541
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean there's like CEOs of big fucking companies that

1542
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: make eightyjillion dollars and they're fucking miserable because their brain

1543
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: perceives life differently, you know.

1544
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 3: Right exactly exactly.

1545
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how one changes their perspective necessarily. I

1546
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: think that there's like a there's some some something intuitive

1547
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: has to happen there or maybe it's a drug, or

1548
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: maybe it's uh just living the nature of living life.

1549
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's some is some intentional desire to do so,

1550
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 2: maybe it is an external factor, maybe it's genetic. I

1551
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: think I've got these these things a lot. I really

1552
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: really don't know. I mean, what about you. Have you

1553
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: noticed any shifts in your perspective lately.

1554
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 3: Lately? I mean, I don't know. I've lately been getting

1555
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 3: kind of tired of my monotonous life. So lately, I

1556
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 3: don't know, I've been trying to hit the gym as

1557
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: much as I can, been trying to uh, you know,

1558
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: eat healthier, I guess, be more money conscious. You know,

1559
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 3: I recently, like well, I stayed in the same chain

1560
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 3: I've I've been you know, at this pizza chain for

1561
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 3: a few years now by those locations and like different

1562
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 3: like franchises and shit. So it's been you know, a

1563
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 3: bigger influx of money thankfully, or I've been making better money,

1564
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: so yeah, more money to you know, treat myself instead

1565
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: of just you know, doing what's best for everyone else,

1566
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 3: putting everyone else in front of me.

1567
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: You know, more importantly, what kind of pizza benefits are

1568
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 2: we getting on these gigs.

1569
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, it depends on the franchise because the last franchise

1570
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: I worked for, they really didn't give a shit. If

1571
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: you know, you took pizza home or whatever, it would

1572
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 3: be free. At this place, they're a little bit more

1573
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: strict than that. You at least need to you know,

1574
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: put in the system, at least pay a percentage of it,

1575
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 3: you know, really at the very end, like.

1576
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: You have to, like like at the I mean, like

1577
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking like look the very end, closing shift, right,

1578
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 2: the pizza is unsellable.

1579
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, uh, they're gonna throw it

1580
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 3: away anyways, So as long as you ask pretty much, hey,

1581
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 3: can I take this home or whatever? Or anybody else

1582
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 3: have plans for this?

1583
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: And that's fucked up that they make you pay right

1584
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: the pizza, Right, That's what I mean. Actually, well here's uh,

1585
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: well let me ask you that like these like you

1586
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: don't have to tell me again the restaurant you work for,

1587
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: But like, is the restaurant's kind of like a like

1588
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: the big chains are still small businesses kind of, right,

1589
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Isn't that how like franchising.

1590
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Works, Yeah, pretty much, it depends on like the city,

1591
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 3: the franchisees they have like a good handful of stores

1592
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 3: that they just you know, look over, I'll shoot, they're

1593
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: they're telling me my deliveries ready. But yeah, yeah, it's

1594
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 3: more you know, small chained.

1595
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I don't want to keep you. Uh, I

1596
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: would feel I would feel horrible if I knew that

1597
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: I was taking part in the delaying of any pizza

1598
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: delivery orders in the world right now. So I'll let you.

1599
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: I'll let you go do your thing, you.

1600
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: Know, man, I us go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, it's

1601
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: just been an honor to to talk to you. It's

1602
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: been again, you know, a journey and to the people

1603
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 3: computer just uh, I don't know. Just stay happy, do

1604
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: things for yourself and you know, focus on your goals.

1605
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 3: Just live your life pretty much.

1606
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: Steal as much pizza from this place as you possibly

1607
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: can and feel don't you don't have to feel any

1608
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: guilt about it, Puffy, I'll take you all the guilt

1609
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: to me. Eat as much of the fucking place as

1610
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: pizza as you can.

1611
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly. Thank you so much for taking my call, Aisle.

1612
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a good day YouTube.

1613
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 2: Bye bye, Puffy, bye three pounds. Fine? How does that?

1614
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: How does that work with because I know that they're

1615
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: like they're small businesses. Some of them are right like that,

1616
01:28:55,320 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: like like like they pay like a fucking license or something.

1617
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: So I guess if it's a small business, you don't

1618
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 2: want to steal the pizza from them. But I don't know,

1619
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: I want I kind of want pizza. Now, the repeet

1620
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

1621
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 2: The repe goes to his hide.

1622
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 1: You're just teaching you

1623
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: A loud in the mid of your life, but he's

1624
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 2: not really an expert.