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Speaker 1: really really missed it, yea. And we'll see you guys

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Speaker 1: in February. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh and there's Chuck and Harry's here too, providing

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Speaker 1: us with last minute facts and informations and tidbits. And

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Speaker 1: that makes this a banger of an episode of Stuff

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Speaker 1: You Should Not It's a banger? Is that how they say?

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Speaker 1: At the brutes. Yeah, is that your British accent? That

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Speaker 1: Uh can I make a quick announcement? Sure, it just

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Speaker 1: which is now full of my wife Emily's business. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: because you've you've known this for a while, Jerry too.

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Speaker 1: But Emily shut down her business everybody. Uh and rather

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Speaker 1: to pass that along. That was very nice. And congratulations

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Speaker 1: I'll bet it smells amazing. At least it smells better

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Speaker 1: that's right, especially one that's a Sportsman's Paradise from Louisiana

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Speaker 1: Gary Larson. Read just I could have been correct. What's

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Speaker 1: how I used to be, so I can remember, I

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00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: can really identify with you, guys. But as Sarah is

427
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: like a little extra flourish on a letter that gives

428
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: it a little extra pop, a little oomph. So if

429
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: you draw a letter I and then you make crossbars

430
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: at the top and bottom, those crossbars are technically Seraph's right. Yeah,

431
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: and just let me explain the reason I was shocked.

432
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: Was because of your uh, your past history and publishing

433
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: and newspaper things and as a writer, and Sarah's and

434
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: San Sarah's is just something I would have thought you

435
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: would have never bothered to go figure it out. I

436
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: walked around knowing I did not know what a seraph was,

437
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: or that Sarah was even necessarily a thing I did

438
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: know and is. I think it's sans serif. And this

439
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: is why chuck, because songs in French means without, so

440
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: I think it's Sarah. I knew that sans meant without, Okay,

441
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: I just never put the two together. This, Yes, it's

442
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: all very embarrassing all of a sudden. I thought I

443
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: thought admitting this would just kind of make the episode

444
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: move along more smoothly. But there's a spotlight on me.

445
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm sweating quite a bit, and I'm really very uncomfortable,

446
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: and we took an ad break too recently ago to

447
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: just go to it. I'm really sorry. This all surprises

448
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: me because you're very much a song seraph guy. Uh,

449
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: Like you're like, yeah, I mean, aren't you sort of

450
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: calibri or like, what's your fint calibri? Is my font calibre?

451
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: On ten point. See, I'm Times New Roman fourteen point

452
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: all the way, as you know. Uh so I'm looking

453
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: at Sarah's all day long, all the time. What's funny

454
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 1: is Calibri ten point is way more bullet list ee

455
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: than Times the Roman on fourteen. So it's funny we

456
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: kind of cross over to one another side in different places. Yeah,

457
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: it's funny whenever you do live shows like you're tiny,

458
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: little fine, I just who reads ten point vont that's

459
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: so tiny paper, which is great? Yours is so big

460
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: the front row can follow along with the episode. They

461
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: can see it. So clearly we should settle at twelve,

462
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: which is I think the standard. Right, Yeah, it's still

463
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: too big for me. Yeah, all right, I'm challenging my eyes.

464
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: All right. Sorry to tease you about the seraph stuff.

465
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: I forgive you. But the point is he added the

466
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: seraph's basically here and there to make it to where

467
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: it was really hard to replicate. Yeah, and again he

468
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: basically cheering this out in a few months because Germany

469
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: was in like this emergency state because the Red Army

470
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: faction was terrorizing literally the country. And then by the

471
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: time it was ready for production, I guess the Red

472
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: Army faction had been largely broken up, and they just

473
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: shelved Effie Shrift until I think the mid nineties, for

474
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: almost fifteen or so years. It just went away. But

475
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: luckily they already kind of had it. So when the

476
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: European Unions started to try to standardize UM license plates

477
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: across the whole, Germany stepped up and said, hey, we've

478
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: got this really great font called FFF shripped. What do

479
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: you guys think about this one? And they're like, what's

480
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: the FE stand for? In Germany said don't ask. Yeah, yeah,

481
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: it's twenty two letters long. You don't want to know.

482
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean it looks Icelandic almost. Yeah. Um. So now

483
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: we come to the very scintillating part of the episode

484
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: where we talk about tag fees. UM. There are not

485
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: standardized tag fees across the country because states handle this.

486
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: It's not federalized, at least not yet. And uh Ed

487
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: used New York as an example because Ed lives in

488
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: New York and but most states are about the same

489
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: and that you can usually pay a little bit of

490
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: extra money anywhere from well ten dollars is the low,

491
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: which is Virginia, which we'll get to that in a

492
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: second um, although we have to like sixty even I

493
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: think Washington, d C Is about the most expensive at

494
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: a hundred, but at least it was recently to get

495
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: a specialty plate, which one do you know which plate? Yeah?

496
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: That which specialty plate is a hundred bucks in DC

497
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: is at the Texas without representation one. Well I think

498
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that actually maybe for vanity which you know, we should

499
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: point out those are two different things. Especially plate can

500
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, support the A s p C

501
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: A or support veterans, or hey, I'm a teacher or

502
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm a firefighter, or this is an antique car, like

503
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: any of those sort of standard things. You can pay

504
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: extra four. But then you can also obviously get to

505
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: your your vanity plate, which you're going to pay even

506
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 1: more on top of that. So I was looking up

507
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: cool Um specialty plates around the country and um, there

508
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: are some new ones I found. I think a popular

509
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: mechanics slide show Montana has this really cool one. It's

510
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: just black and white, mostly black field with some white

511
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: here there, and they have a t Rex skull on

512
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: there's it's like supports the museums in the state. UM,

513
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: Florida has a great one. It's got a space shuttle

514
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: taking off, um with you know, on the rockets and

515
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: all the boosters and all that stuff. Um, and it's

516
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: it's too um commemorate the Challenger in Columbia disasters. It's

517
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: very good looking. And then California has one that supports

518
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: its museums. And um, I guess Charles Schultze's estate lent

519
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: Snoopy out just to help drum up money. So you

520
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: can get a Snoopy license plate in California. Yeah, and

521
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: that's the whole deal is usually some of this money

522
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: goes toward these organizations. Um, and not just like in

523
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: the coffers of the state. Uh. Since you brought up California,

524
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I can say that we used to love trying to

525
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: spot when I lived there, the old um blue for

526
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: my money, the coolest license plate ever, the blue with

527
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: yellow letter California license plate from the seventies that used

528
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: to see on chips all the time, and you would

529
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: occasionally still see those out in l A And it

530
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: was it was always kind of a cool thing. I

531
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: think they have that you can get it to throwback. Um,

532
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: I guess I saw it just like the nineteen SI

533
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: the five edition and like so you know, there's so

534
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: many people into like hot rods and stuff out in California.

535
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: They're like going crazy for that because it makes their

536
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: car look that much more authentic. I love it. I

537
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: would totally get one. So vanity plates, like you said,

538
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: they're a different thing. They're gonna cost you a lot

539
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: more depending on where you are. And did you see

540
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 1: that huff Post slide show that I sent? Yeah, Like

541
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: I was literally laughing an hour or so after last

542
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: looking at it, like just could not stop lappy. There

543
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: was one can you guess what my favorite one was? No,

544
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: there was one. I think it was either Minnesota or

545
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and it was Jay is Lord, as in

546
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Jesus is Lord. But that took up all of the

547
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: spaces on the license plate, so it was one word

548
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: j I s Lord And like I can't, I could

549
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: not stop laughing about that yesterday because I'm sure the

550
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: guy who got a Jesus Lord license plate gets so

551
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: mad when you point out what else it looked like, um, yeah,

552
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: And if you haven't just sounded out j I scored

553
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: all one word. Yeah. I mean a lot of those

554
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: are um I think well intended that turned out to

555
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: look like other things kind of like asked man on Seinfeld. Uh,

556
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: and that was a very popular one in Florida. That

557
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: was true at least, Nope said so that wash And

558
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spell this one out. You just got

559
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: to use your imagination, folks. A five five and then

560
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: remember there's a big uh orange in the middle. It

561
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: looks like an oh a A five five and then

562
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: that symbol and then R G Y which just just

563
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: write it down. I mean they had to like slip

564
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: past them. They just because there wasn't an O and there,

565
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: they used the orange for the oh. Surely the people

566
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: were just like they didn't think anything of it, right,

567
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: very very creative. I saw it. I saw it. Um.

568
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: I think a medium article. I can't remember who wrote it,

569
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: but um the author was talking about how like some

570
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: d m v s will like use Urban Dictionary and

571
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: like scroll the internet and like try to figure out

572
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: what people are saying in these things to decide whether

573
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: it didn't approve them, especially these days. Um. And actually

574
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a second on on free speech.

575
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: But with vanity plates, there are certain rules. Obviously, you're

576
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: not supposed to say naughty, dirty things, even though people

577
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: try and get by it in creative ways, like we

578
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: just mentioned. You're not allowed to use um like an oh,

579
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: the letter I'm sorry, like the In fact, some states

580
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: don't even use the letter zero or the letter oh

581
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: because you can intersperse the or interchange those to make

582
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: it look like the other to get around the no

583
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: profanity thing. Uh. And then as far as vanity plates go,

584
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: and I was shocked at this number or this list

585
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: of Virginia being number one in vanity plates, but it's

586
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: by percentage, which makes a lot more sense because when

587
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I went to California for the first time when I

588
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: was I think eighteen, I had never seen so many

589
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: vanity plates in my life as in l A. And

590
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy and and I thought,

591
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: kind of dumb, but that's your thing. That's your thing.

592
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: But Virginia has a sixteen point one nine percent of

593
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: their plate and it's because they're cheap there. It's only

594
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: ten bucks. Uh. And I think in New Hampshire was next,

595
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: followed by Illinois, Nevada, Montana, and Texas was the lowest

596
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: at point five percent. And then Canadians, we don't want

597
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: to forget about you. Ontario leads the way with four

598
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: point nine five nine percent, followed by Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Yukon,

599
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: and then the lowest was British Columbia at point five

600
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: nine percent. There don't there's some sociological study just begging

601
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: to be designed through, right, you know, I'm not quite

602
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: sure what it is, but I can see it in

603
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: there somewhere. So yeah, Texas is just like, yeah, we

604
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: don't care, We're from Texas. UM. So the whole thing

605
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: with vanity plate and you know, your ability to say

606
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want in the state being able to deny

607
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: you from getting a plate that you want UM brings

608
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: up in the United States free speech issues because you

609
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: are paying for this UM and you're displaying it on

610
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: your car. It's like you are saying this that's automatically

611
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: protected by the First Amendment. But it's a little fuzzy

612
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: chuck because the state is issuing this thing that you're

613
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: saying whatever you want to say on and in some

614
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: way you're repping them as well, or they're repped on

615
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: the license plate, so they may or may not want

616
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: to be associated with whatever you're saying. Yeah, and when

617
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: it's come to the courts, they have generally sided with people,

618
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: uh like ed gave the example there was a license

619
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: plate issue in North Carolina that said white power w

620
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: y T E DASH. I guess p w r R

621
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: P w E R p O w r oh. It

622
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: was the full the full word, so you know, uh,

623
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: free speech ehaw uh. And courts generally generally side with uh.

624
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: And I think when it becomes um, dirty words and stuff,

625
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: as they get a little more involved, yeah, definitely can't

626
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: do things like that. But I don't know, it's interesting, so, um,

627
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: there's there. I saw. It goes both ways. They don't necessarily,

628
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: as a rule, you know, side with the the individual.

629
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: Like there was a woman in I want to say

630
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: New Hampshire or Vermont maybe, and in the nineties I

631
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: think she, um, she requested s h T hp N

632
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: S the second part is happens, and her whole thing

633
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: was like she had it as just a reminder she

634
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: went through a really terrible year and she had it

635
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: as a reminder that, like, you know, this stuff happens,

636
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: you just kind of get through it or whatever. And

637
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: the state was like, no, those first three letters are dirty.

638
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: And I think the Supreme Court ruled in the state's favor.

639
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: They're like, yep, that's dirty, can't have it. And she

640
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: was like, this is so like think about context and

641
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: nuance eyes and they were like no, and she could

642
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: not have her s h T hp N S license plate.

643
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if anyone has s Y s K fan

644
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: oh man that that's if they do. I want to

645
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: hear about it, because mine says s Y s K

646
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: host and mine says s Y s K h s

647
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: T right uh, and Jerry says me so nice man. Um, No,

648
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: of course mine doesn't say that, but it's funny. I do.

649
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: I did have, and I think I mentioned this on

650
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: on an episode at some point. One of my pickup

651
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: truck that I still have has six six six accident,

652
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of funny. Sure, yeah, I don't.

653
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure they would give you six six six if

654
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: you wanted it. But it's way funnier when it's accidental

655
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: six six six or l S T. Those accidental ones

656
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: are hilarious. Yeah. It is interesting though, the question of

657
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: what is allowed, um, because I could see some like

658
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: religious conservatives saying they don't want someone to be able

659
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: to say Hail Satan on their plate. Uh, But I mean, truly,

660
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: that's free speech, Like the courts would decide on the

661
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: favor of the car owner in that case. I would

662
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: think so because it's free speech and that you're just

663
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: saying what you want to say. But it's also religion.

664
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: You can certainly make an argument, and I could see them.

665
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I could see the state being like, Okay, fine, you know,

666
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: I think it tends to be like you said, where

667
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: it's a foul word according to the state, and or

668
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: like a straight up like straight up hate speech or

669
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: a racial slur or something like that. Sadly, in the

670
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: United States, some people try to get license plates that

671
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: have racial slurs and they tend to be like out

672
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: of hand and eyed, and I don't really think a

673
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: court would would side with that person. I now have

674
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: a new goal in life. I just realized, I want

675
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: to get an old uh an old full side is

676
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: woody station wagon from the sixties or seventies, and I

677
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: want the license plate to say Hale st n w

678
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: g N to b g N, not Hale Satan Hale

679
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: station wagon. Oh nice, but it looks like Hale station

680
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: Hale Satan. I'm so bad at that. Um I would

681
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: be like Hale stand wang. So that happened to me

682
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: in l a lot. I would be like, I don't

683
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: even know what that means. Yeah, No, I'm with you.

684
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: That's a very uncle you mean is actually really good

685
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: at it. And she admitted last night that it was

686
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: because she practiced so much as a kid. Because there

687
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: was a game show on I think in the eighties

688
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: called like Bumper Busters or bumper Buddies, and the whole

689
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: game show is you guessing what a license plate says.

690
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, that was it. I just kept waiting

691
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: for like the next round to come up, and Nope,

692
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: that was all they did. That's really funny. Yeah. And also,

693
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: while we're on at Chuck, just real quick, I gotta

694
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: shout out, um that Medium article that I was talking about, Um,

695
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: the never ending free speech fight over vanity license plates

696
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: by Zara Stone. All right, how about we take a break. Well,

697
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: I'll dream up a couple of more great vanity plates.

698
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: Even though hail station Wagon. I think I just came

699
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: up with something. Breakin. It's wonderful, and we'll talk about

700
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: whiskey plates and who makes these things right after this. Well,

701
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: now we're on the road, driving in your truck. Want

702
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: to learn a thing or two from Josh can chuck it.

703
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: You should know all right, all right, I mentioned whiskey

704
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: plates before we took a break, and whiskey plates have

705
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: nothing to do with whiskey or the whiskey industry. Uh.

706
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: It is because W is whiskey in the NATO alphabet,

707
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: and they just call them whiskey plates in Minnesota. But

708
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: there is an interesting tie in that you get a

709
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: W at the front of your license plate if you

710
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: have been uh if basically you've had your is it

711
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: your license revoked because of a d U? I? Yeah,

712
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: but they revoke it so hard. They take your license

713
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: plates too, right, But they can't take your car because

714
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: other people in your family might need to drive that car.

715
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: So what they do is they give you a plate

716
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: with the W at the beginning that basically tells everybody, Hey,

717
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: I have had my license plate revoked because of drunken driving. Yeah,

718
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: and UM Minnesota is not the only UM state to

719
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: do this. Ohio has their own one, and they, they,

720
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: I guess, very un ironically use scarlet letters or there's

721
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: no joke. I have family members with that. Do you

722
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: really know why that? That's amazing? So apparently judges weren't

723
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: using them as much as they they as much as

724
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: the legislature wanted. So the legislature changed the law, saying

725
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: judges had to use them um for I think starting

726
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: in the two thousand teens. So yeah, I guess you're

727
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: probably seeing a lot more scarlet letters on cars in

728
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Ohio these days. Yeah. I didn't know what it was.

729
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: And this is uh. I don't want to be too specific,

730
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: but when I was in Ohio visiting Emily's family, I

731
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: remember walking up the driveway to a family function and

732
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: I think my father in law was like, check it out. Look,

733
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: he's got the scarlet letter, Uncle, glug glug exactly. Yeah.

734
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about it, and I but I

735
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: was confused whether I shoot or not after that rope

736
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: injury story that I failed to ask you about. So

737
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: now I'm like all shaky and nervous all the time

738
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: mentioned stories. I'm like, should I ask God on um? So.

739
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Another thing that's happened over the years is people have

740
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: gotten themselves into trouble for being a little too clever

741
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: for their own good by having a license plate that

742
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: says no tags or no plates or something like that.

743
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: Because when a cop files a report for a car

744
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't have license plate. This is generally what they

745
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: would write, no plate or no tags, so it gets

746
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: filed as you know, a violator, and then all of

747
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: a sudden you're getting pulled over. And this is you know,

748
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: verifiably happened before. There was a case in the late

749
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: seventies of a guy who got um a lot of

750
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: fines because of stuff that he didn't do, because he

751
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: was like, I got a no plates vanity plate. Okay,

752
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: so I want to I want to defend this guy,

753
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: Robert barber Um. He did have a no plates vanity plate,

754
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: but it was accidental because he was applying for vanity

755
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: plates and you have to put your three your top

756
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 1: three choices. He wanted boating, sailing, and then if these

757
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: two weren't available, he didn't want a vanity plate, so

758
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: he unwisely wrote no plates DMV totally humorouss always looking

759
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: out for dirty words. Just great, this guy wants to

760
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: no plates license plate. Let's give it to him. Yeah, well,

761
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: of course, what was it boating and sailing? That's not

762
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna be on there. He I guess he was just

763
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: rolling the dice. Jimmy Christopher Cross owns those in every

764
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: stage he does very famously. So um. Also, chuck. There's

765
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: a long standing rumor that I think we should put

766
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: to rest that um prison inmates in the United States

767
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: make the license plates in this country. True false, it's false.

768
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: Well no, I was about to say myth or busted. Uh,

769
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: and I combined false and myth. So I think I

770
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: just kind of coined a new term. You don't have

771
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: to say false or myth anymore. You can just say

772
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: false it is true. Actually, um, And I don't I

773
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: don't think I crossed the board. But a lot of

774
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: times prison inmates still do make license plates. And uh,

775
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's part of the the sort of um,

776
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: little to no wage labor system that the prisons take

777
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: advantage of in this country. Yeah, so um. Thanks to

778
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: the thirteenth Amendment, you cannot enslave a person unless they're

779
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: being jailed for a crime. So most licensed plays, I

780
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: believe it is most chuck um are produced in the

781
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: United States by slave labor incarcerated prisoners. Um. And because

782
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: you can't say, well, I'm gonna fire you, and you're

783
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: not gonna get any wages because you're not paying them anyway,

784
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: they coerce them into working in other ways, like like

785
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: removing their ability to see family, maybe putting them in

786
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: solitary um, basically punishing them if they won't work for free.

787
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: And that's how the United States gets most of its

788
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: license plates. And even worse, it's not just the Bureau

789
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: of Prisons running this. They usually contract with an outside

790
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: company who uses slave labor legally to produce these license plates,

791
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: from which they make a profit that they when they

792
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: give them to the state. Yeah, it's a terrible, terrible

793
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: thing and it's something that needs to be changed, but

794
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: that's not on just about anyone's radar. I think as

795
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: far as changing laws goes, well, it became kind of

796
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: a joke, like making license plates you're going to jail. Yeah,

797
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: especially the ones in New Hampshire where the license plates

798
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: they live free or die. Well, speaking of that, um,

799
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna go over the whole process of

800
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: how they're made because it's not super interesting. But um,

801
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: I looked and there was a thing on Reddit where

802
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: a guy went through I think there was a h

803
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: or maybe he just did it on its own and

804
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: made a map of the states that still have embossed

805
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: plates rather than the just sort of printed on aluminum

806
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: that we have now in Georgia, arts are not embossed

807
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: any longer, even though Jerry Wildest she's got an embossed

808
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: plate from like twenty something years ago. Still back to

809
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: the podcast and hangs onto it. But uh, from what

810
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: I could tell, and I lost count because the picture

811
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: was really small. And then other people chimed in after

812
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: this was in twenty nineteen then saying like, hey, now

813
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: Kansas is not embossed anymore, so it looks like it's

814
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: about roughly half and half of states that are still embossing. Uh.

815
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: And just one little fun note about this, I did

816
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: not know we gotta and I know the Vermonters out

817
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: there just waiting. I will not forget about you, because

818
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: Vermont is the only state that has d BOSS license plates.

819
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, it is not raised lettering. It is depressed

820
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: depressed in Vermont. Very very cool. So UM, if you

821
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: want to kind of take a little nostalgic trip. I

822
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: found out by accident, there's a title max um dot

823
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: com post. It's called fifty years of license Plates in

824
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: the US UM and you can see fifty years of

825
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: license plates state by state, and if you choose like

826
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: the decade you were a kid and just go, you know,

827
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: scroll down. It's like being back on the road again

828
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: age ten, and like the back of your parents car.

829
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: It's pretty great. Yeah, I mean I remember when they,

830
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: as many people do, when they started just including little

831
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: logos like the Georgia peach, and it wasn't just the

832
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: straight up letters and numbers, and I remember thinking like, wow,

833
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: is this is this the future here that we're looking at? Well,

834
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: speaking of the future, So they went from embossed or

835
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: d embossed too, flat rented UM license plates. Now apparently

836
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: there's some disruptors out of Silicon Valley because that's where

837
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: they come from, and they've come up with digital license

838
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: plates and some states are starting to be like, yep,

839
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: you can do that. So for a fee, I think

840
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: it's like fourteen dollars a month or two fifty dollars

841
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: for four years something like that. This company keeps your

842
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: plate up to date. UM you can have it personalized

843
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: a little bit, and it looks super cool. You know.

844
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: If you especially if you have an electric car, you

845
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: could do worse than putting a digital plate on the

846
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: back of it. But obviously not everybody has two hundred

847
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: fifty bucks for four years. And I think that's in

848
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: addition to all of the normal fees that apply for

849
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: a license plate too, that's right. Uh. And speaking of fees,

850
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Speaker 1: that's something that you would not be able to collect.

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Speaker 1: But people get really into collecting license plates. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: there are a couple of different ways. One UM is

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Speaker 1: a little well, I'm not gonna say that. One is

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Speaker 1: just collecting license plates, physical license plates, maybe all of

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Speaker 1: them through history in your state, maybe all of them

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Speaker 1: throughout the whole country over the years, or just once

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Speaker 1: you think are super cool. Uh. And you know rare

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Speaker 1: runs UM, like innycollectible are going to go for a

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Speaker 1: lot more money. Um. You can also buy big lots

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Speaker 1: of them on eBay for not much money. But the

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Speaker 1: big money comes in collecting the actual ownership of a

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Speaker 1: tag number. Because if you remember earlier we mentioned UM,

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Speaker 1: license plates in many states started at one and work

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Speaker 1: their way up. There's a lot of rich people with

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Speaker 1: way too much money, I guess, way too much that

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Speaker 1: want to pay a lot of money to have like

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Speaker 1: eight as their license plate, and they will pay hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars to get that. Yeah. Apparently in

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Speaker 1: the states, Delaware is the state that's craziest for this.

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Speaker 1: There's a real secondary market where yes, people pay six

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Speaker 1: figures for a license plate number. And it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you buy a car, the plate gets transferred to you,

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Speaker 1: so you can continue to keep this plate over and

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Speaker 1: over again, so you're actually buying it from the person

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Speaker 1: and use really you you get the car with it,

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Speaker 1: but you're like, I don't care about the car, I'm

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Speaker 1: just after the plate. But as crazy as Delaware is

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Speaker 1: for their plates, um and again, I think seven grand

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Speaker 1: is the most someone paid for tag number six in Delaware.

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Speaker 1: Pretty crazy in other countries, especially Dubai, the uae Abu, Dhabi,

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong. There, it's just insane the amount of money

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Speaker 1: they spend on on that stuff. I couldn't believe these numbers.

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Speaker 1: But someone in New York apparently paid twenty million dollars

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Speaker 1: for a plate that said to New York. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: kicker of that one is it came with the nineties

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Speaker 1: Volvo wagon that it was attached to. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: Oh was it really Evolva? Somebody paid for a Volvo wagon? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And then the one in UH and in the Brits

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Speaker 1: I believe they paid someone in is it Great? Britain?

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Speaker 1: Is it the UK? Is it? England paid twenty million

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Speaker 1: bucks for an F one license plate tag. So if

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Speaker 1: you if you want to get gagged with the spoon,

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Speaker 1: head on over to Lux Digital with an E after

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Speaker 1: the X and just read about the most expensive car

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Speaker 1: tags ever, because you will find little gems like this,

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Speaker 1: said Abdul Gaffar. Kury paid nine point five million dollars

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Speaker 1: for one in Abu Dhabi because quote, it's the best number.

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Speaker 1: And then the Lux Digital says, quote by hanging one

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Speaker 1: from his fenders, coury boldly let the world know that

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Speaker 1: he was a man of confidence and prestige. Someone actually

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Speaker 1: wrote that down and was dead serious about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it reminds me that I'm number one hat on SNL.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Oh you don't like Will Ferrell's ad,

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Speaker 1: like this black tie dinner and he's like showing up

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Speaker 1: all the other men because he's wearing a mesh backed

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00:50:54,760 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm number one hat. It's just completely incongruous with everything

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Speaker 1: he's trying to do, but he's like showing everybody I'm

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Speaker 1: number one. That's pretty pretty great, pretty great stuff. I

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Speaker 1: guess one final thing we put a pin in, so

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Speaker 1: we have to take that pin out or people say

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Speaker 1: what about the pin? As you mentioned three M making

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Speaker 1: the reflective plates. Apparently three M continually lobbies politicians to

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Speaker 1: pass laws making people get license plates more often than

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Speaker 1: they need to so they can get bigger government contracts

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Speaker 1: for those reflective plates, reflective backing, and apparently even police

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Speaker 1: departments are like, we don't need new plates this often.

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Speaker 1: This is we don't shouldn't have to do this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and three M's like, come on, you're not paying for it.

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Speaker 1: Your residents are who cares, it's nothing to your residences,

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars to us, just do it like they

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00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: lobby for that, which is gross. In addition to using

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Speaker 1: enslaved prison labor to create license plates, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot more tawdry than you'd think at first plans agreed.

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Speaker 1: Um so turned out to be a really great pick,

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Speaker 1: Tracy and a j Thank you for the suggestion, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: thank you for turning this into an absolutely delightful episode,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for listening. And since I said that, everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail. I'm gonna call this. Oh

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Speaker 1: this is a good one. Uh, this is a little

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Speaker 1: bit on cultural appropriation because in the Mariachi episode, I

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Speaker 1: talked about wanting a charro suit and said I would

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Speaker 1: fear being accused of cultural appropriation, and he said, nay

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Speaker 1: to that, Nay, uh wear it because people would you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're celebrating that culture, and uh, we heard from

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Um, and I'm gonna read a

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Speaker 1: couple of them from our Mexican friends who and I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not patting the results here, but literally our

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Speaker 1: Mexican listeners roundly said, do it, dude, we love it

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Speaker 1: and that would be awesome Mexican and Mexican American. Yes,

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Speaker 1: of course. Um, hey, guys, is a Mexican myself. I

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Speaker 1: listened to the episodes, Um about our country knowing so

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Speaker 1: much on the topic, and you guys are always so

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00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: spot on. Makes me love the podcast even more. With

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Speaker 1: the Mariachi episode, I love mariachi music and personally love

945
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: singing Vincente Fernandez music, and I want to let check no, chuck, no,

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Speaker 1: you should definitely dress at least once in that style.

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Speaker 1: Mexican people love when other ethnicities love their culture and style,

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Speaker 1: and I would say in Mexico they would even encourage

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00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: you to try on a chr os suit. Keep doing

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00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: what you're doing. That's from Joel Hernandez. And then we

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Speaker 1: received one from Jamie Cavazos Cova rubious, great great name.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's uh, it's himI, okay, right, not Jamie spelled

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Speaker 1: Ji and right. Mexican came to the US when I

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Speaker 1: was twenty four years old. I want to congratulate you

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Speaker 1: on the preparation and pronunciation on the mariachi up. You

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00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: guys did a great job, especially rolling those ours with

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Speaker 1: your Spanish second Chuck. You should wear a mariachi suit

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Speaker 1: any day and be a champ. I was born and

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Speaker 1: raised in Mexico, and I feel proud when a person

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Speaker 1: likes my culture. Makes me happy that someone is interested

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Speaker 1: in anything regarding the great parts of Mexico, like food, music,

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Speaker 1: and it's folklore and many other good things. I will

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Speaker 1: not call it cultural appropriation because I feel joy when

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Speaker 1: the world likes even a little bit of what I

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Speaker 1: am and want to keep spreading the beautiful roots from

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Speaker 1: Mexican culture. Uh. It actually works both ways, guys. Because

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Speaker 1: I live in the North Alabama area, after seven years,

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Speaker 1: I probably call myself Southern. Now you can ask any

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00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Mexican person if they feel offended if you wear a

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Speaker 1: mariachi suit, and I'm confident they will encourage you to

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Speaker 1: keep doing it. Uh. And then they imi encouraged us

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Speaker 1: to talk about in the future Mexican trio Romantico music,

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Speaker 1: which we're gonna look into. Um. And not to poopa

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Speaker 1: on anyone, but the couple of no one really scolded me,

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Speaker 1: but the couple of emails that we did get that,

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Speaker 1: We're like, hey, maybe think to ice, Um, we're from

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Speaker 1: Caucasian people, Uh, taking up the fight for our Mexican

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Speaker 1: and Mexican American friends. So just just laying that out there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks nicely put And who was it in addition to

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Speaker 1: him whose email you read that would be Joel Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: Joel Him and Joel thank you so much for writing in.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who wrote in, thank you very much. Regardless of

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Speaker 1: what your opinion was, We appreciate it, and we're always

984
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Speaker 1: looking for good emails regardless of what your opinion is.

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Speaker 1: You can wrap it up spanking on the bottom and

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Speaker 1: send it off to Stuff Podcasts at iHeart radio dot com.

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