Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. As usual, we have
Speaker 3: so many great stories for you guys this week. Today,
Speaker 3: we're going to start off with the devastating floods in Texas.
Speaker 3: Actor Michael Madsen is dead. He was pretty young, so
Speaker 3: that was kind of shocking. Of course, we just celebrated
Speaker 3: Fourth of July in America this weekend, and to no
Speaker 3: one's surprise, there's been multiple firework injuries and deaths. One
Speaker 3: staple of the Fourth of July holiday, at least for
Speaker 3: us anyways, hot dogs, and we're going to talk about
Speaker 3: why medical experts say there is no amount of hot
Speaker 3: dogs that is safe for human consumption. That's kind of
Speaker 3: a very bold statement, honestly. And a space capsule that
Speaker 3: was carrying human remains into space that crashed. All that
Speaker 3: and more, including your questions on today's episode, let's get
Speaker 3: started talking about these This is just so horrific for
Speaker 3: any parent to be watching what's unraveling in Texas right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on fourth of July, several counties in central Texas,
Speaker 1: it was a little northwest of San Antonio. They were
Speaker 1: hit with these horrific floods. So the Guadalupe River rose
Speaker 1: over twenty feet in just a matter of forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: which must have been absolutely terrifying. And one of the
Speaker 1: most disturbing parts of the story is that a summer
Speaker 1: camp was near the river. It held over seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty girls. Initially over two dozen of them were missing,
Speaker 1: and now unfortunately some of them have died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I guess along this Guadalupe River there's
Speaker 3: multiple places that have camps for kids or even just
Speaker 3: anybody that wants to camp overnight. It's a recreation spot
Speaker 3: there was. It also occurred on fourth of July, so
Speaker 3: they don't even know exactly how many people people were
Speaker 3: along the river just celebrating anyway. So really trying to
Speaker 3: get a true estimate of what happened is really hard
Speaker 3: to determine at this time. But as of right now
Speaker 3: when we're recording, it looks like the water started to
Speaker 3: rise at four o'clock in the morning. And of course,
Speaker 3: especially when you have a camp full of children or
Speaker 3: just like anybody in general, is usually sleeping at four
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, so this came very unexpected to
Speaker 3: them and imagine being in your bed sleeping and the
Speaker 3: next thing you know, water is filling up in your
Speaker 3: cabin and you have to try to evacuate or just
Speaker 3: figure like waking up out of a dead sleep and
Speaker 3: encountering that, especially as a child. It sounded like some
Speaker 3: of the camping cabins had kids as young as seven, eight,
Speaker 3: nine years old, with a counselor that was a teenager two.
Speaker 3: So it like it's just a lot for people to
Speaker 3: deal with, especially since it was so unexpected. It doesn't
Speaker 3: seem like they really envisioned anything of this level was
Speaker 3: going to happen. There's still, as of we're recording right now,
Speaker 3: there's still a lot of people missing, including children, which
Speaker 3: is just I can't even imagine what the parents are
Speaker 3: going through. I saw some video of this dad going
Speaker 3: through the devastated area and just picking up like mattresses
Speaker 3: and debris, like looking for his eight year old child.
Speaker 3: Could you even imagine how terrible that is? No, absolutely not,
Speaker 3: And we know from past floods. I mean, Gabe went
Speaker 3: to Ashville during Hurricane Helene recently in October to go
Speaker 3: recover bodies unfortunately from a similar kind of situation, and
Speaker 3: we know especially from his experience that people when you're
Speaker 3: swept away in a flash flood like that, that you
Speaker 3: can be found miles and miles away from where you started.
Speaker 3: And in fact, there was a woman that was camping
Speaker 3: with her family next to this river and the rescuers
Speaker 3: found her in a freaking tree alive twenty miles up
Speaker 3: the river from where she was.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's really lucky she survived it, because, as
Speaker 1: we see in this case, all these people were missing.
Speaker 1: Some people are found alive, and some people are unfortunately
Speaker 1: found dead. I mean there's still a couple of the
Speaker 1: girls missing as of recording this, so I don't know
Speaker 1: how that's at this point. It's probably not gonna end
Speaker 1: up good for the families.
Speaker 3: No, it's been too many days, and I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 3: this is what Gabe dealt with when he went to
Speaker 3: Asheville too. It's like you might not ever find them,
Speaker 3: and that's what's as a parent, like just losing your
Speaker 3: child as it is just must be so terrible, But
Speaker 3: then think about never having that closure of that and
Speaker 3: just always wondering it. Just I just feel so terrible
Speaker 3: about it, and I don't know if it could have
Speaker 3: been prevented, Like in hindsight, they're going to look back
Speaker 3: and look at everything and be like, oh, we should
Speaker 3: have did this. But one thing that I wanted to
Speaker 3: bring up is that where we live in our area,
Speaker 3: Maria and I, we don't live like on a river bank, right,
Speaker 3: We do live near the Delaware River and tributaries of that,
Speaker 3: but we get flash flood warnings all the time, like
Speaker 3: seriously in the summer, especially now. How many have we
Speaker 3: gotten this week? If I look at my phone, I
Speaker 3: could say that we've gotten we got four within the
Speaker 3: past couple of days. We just get them all the time,
Speaker 3: and at some point you just kind of you, I mean,
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but you just are like, Okay,
Speaker 3: do you think it's possible that they get them all
Speaker 3: the time here and they just didn't really take it
Speaker 3: seriously because ACU weather is saying that they put out
Speaker 3: plenty of flash flood warnings and they believed that officials
Speaker 3: should have taken those warnings seriously and evacuated the camp.
Speaker 3: But there were seven hundred and some people at this camp, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was a lot of people, and
Speaker 1: it seems like they predicted as early as Wednesday that
Speaker 1: there was going to be flooding, But I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody foresaw how catastrophic it was going to be, like
Speaker 1: in this case. I mean, it seemed that when it
Speaker 1: started developing in the middle of the night, it happened
Speaker 1: so quickly. They were saying that the water levels from
Speaker 1: the river rose over twenty feet in just forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: So how are you supposed to predict it's going to
Speaker 1: be that catastrophic? And like you said, like.
Speaker 3: We live, well, I mean in theory, whether people should
Speaker 3: be able to predict that there's going to be a
Speaker 3: dump like that, I mean that just well, they should
Speaker 3: be able to predict a many not exactly, but like
Speaker 3: they should be in a ballpark of Like, I mean,
Speaker 3: that had to show something different. Let me read these
Speaker 3: I forgot to tell you. I wanted to read you
Speaker 3: these statistics that I found online because they're so it
Speaker 3: just shows the greatness of this. It's said that this
Speaker 3: tropical storm dumped three trillion gallons of water okay, which
Speaker 3: into the Guadalupe River, which is equivalent to the amount
Speaker 3: of water used in the United States the entire year.
Speaker 3: It could fill one point five million Olympic sized pools
Speaker 3: and it's about one point five months worth of waterflow
Speaker 3: at Niagara Falls. Like that's how much water we're talking
Speaker 3: about just came on into this water. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just I don't know, it's just like a crazy natural disaster.
Speaker 3: You say the same thing when there's tsunamis and there's
Speaker 3: hurricanes and there's earthquakes, tornadoes. It's just Mother Nature doing
Speaker 3: its thing, you know, and it's it's just so sad
Speaker 3: for these families. I just can't even imagine what they're
Speaker 3: going through. As of right now, there's been close to
Speaker 3: a hundred people that have been found dead. So we'll
Speaker 3: wait and see what happens throughout the week. But I'm
Speaker 3: not feeling great about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think flash flood warnings are one
Speaker 1: of those things that people often ignore because they don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to be that bad. They think it's
Speaker 1: just going to be like their street flooding out, not
Speaker 1: horrific things like this. Even when you were saying, like,
Speaker 1: we live near the Delaware River, and sometimes when we
Speaker 1: get flash flood warnings, you know, it's as simple as
Speaker 1: the street just floods out, or sometimes it's been so
Speaker 1: bad that in neighboring towns. People have to ride boats
Speaker 1: down the street to get away from their house.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think it's You're right in saying whether people
Speaker 1: should be able to predict it, But I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it is purely unpredictable. How many times do
Speaker 1: you open your weather up and it says one thing
Speaker 1: and then it's completely different. There's only so much that
Speaker 1: they could predict.
Speaker 3: Well, that's every day of my life, I feel, so.
Speaker 1: I guess right now where it's landing is that some
Speaker 1: officials are saying they gave ample notice. Some are saying
Speaker 1: they didn't think it was going to be that bad.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're going to do an
Speaker 1: investigation to see if somebody didn't make the right call
Speaker 1: or what, or if this was truly just missignals an accident.
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Michael Madsen. You want to hear.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I told you this, but last
Speaker 3: week Paul, my friend, Paul, doctor Kunaris, had texted me
Speaker 3: a picture. He's always in the desert in Arizona, stumbling
Speaker 3: across abandoned things, and he sent me this really cool
Speaker 3: picture of a trailer in the Desert and I wrote
Speaker 3: him back and I was like, Oh, that looks like
Speaker 3: Michael Madsen's trailer and kill Bill. And a couple hours later,
Speaker 3: I get this alert across my phone that said Michael
Speaker 3: Madsen died. I just thought it was so weird. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I haven't said that dude's name in such a long time,
Speaker 3: and I just so happened to think about him, and
Speaker 3: then he died a couple hours later. It was just
Speaker 3: really bizarre.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the world just works like that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's been a couple of times I've had dreams
Speaker 1: about totally random people and then they end up end
Speaker 1: up funding out like a week later that they died
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: And then Mama'm always I.
Speaker 3: Remember that one time you did with one of our
Speaker 3: friends that was nuts. Maybe you're like clairvoyant or something.
Speaker 1: It's happened to me at least three times, and Mamam
Speaker 1: always jokes with me that she hopes I don't dream
Speaker 1: about her. So I don't know. It's just it's like
Speaker 1: a freak thing that happened.
Speaker 3: But yeah.
Speaker 1: So Michael Madson. He's mostly well known for being in
Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino movies, such as kill Bill reservoir Dogs, Once
Speaker 1: upon a Time in Hollywood. He has dieded sixty seven
Speaker 1: years old from your favorite cause of death, cardiac arrest.
Speaker 3: So it's so annoying. Oh, he died because his heart stopped.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the information. So I was looking into him
Speaker 3: a little and apparently he's been having a problem with
Speaker 3: alcoholism for a long time. So I'm not sure if
Speaker 3: that contributed to his death, but it's likely that it
Speaker 3: did if he's been drinking alcohol like that for a
Speaker 3: majority of his life.
Speaker 1: Well, I also read that in twenty twenty two his
Speaker 1: eldest son had died by suicide and behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: he was dealing with, according to his loved ones, immense grief.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if you know, the heartbreak has played
Speaker 1: a little bit into that, maybe that drove the alcohol consumption.
Speaker 1: It's really sad what's going on. But hopefully we'll get
Speaker 1: a more concrete cause of death instead of just the
Speaker 1: generalized cardiac orist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking about that. We usually do get
Speaker 3: follow up with actors, but we never did. We ever
Speaker 3: get a follow up on ray leodamor Remember he died
Speaker 3: and everybody was kind of shocked about it. I feel
Speaker 3: like we never really heard what happened with him.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we did.
Speaker 1: But didn't he die on vacation or somewhere else? Because
Speaker 1: I wanted to say in California, I think that those
Speaker 1: are all public record, but I believe he was on
Speaker 1: vacation in another country so the family might be able
Speaker 1: to keep it private for those that worked out for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it did because a lot of people just
Speaker 1: want the media frenzy to stop around it, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So we'll keep you guys up to date if
Speaker 3: we hear anything else about his his cause or manner
Speaker 3: of death. I mean, he could have had complications from
Speaker 3: alcoholic curosis whatever, or just like he could have had
Speaker 3: dilated cardiomyopathy anything like that from chronic drinking. So we'll
Speaker 3: say can't We really can't do anything with cardiac arrest
Speaker 3: like news slash. That's how everyone dies, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, all right, So last week in California, a fire
Speaker 1: broke out at a fireworks warehouse and that led to
Speaker 1: a giant explosion that not only destroyed nearby homes but
Speaker 1: left some people. Did we have a couple stories involving
Speaker 1: fireworks Obviously, fourth of July was just a few days ago, so.
Speaker 3: They're going to be rolling in. But last year, so
Speaker 3: data from twenty twenty four said that fourteen seven hundred
Speaker 3: people were treated in the emergency room for firework related
Speaker 3: injuries and of those, eleven people died. Thirty seven percent
Speaker 3: of the injuries were burns to the hands, fingers, and face,
Speaker 3: and most of the people were aged twenty five to
Speaker 3: forty four. So in a case like this, with the
Speaker 3: firework factory explosion, that's going to be on like another
Speaker 3: level of injury that a typical homeowner that's putting off fireworks,
Speaker 3: which is the most typical injuries would happen. They said
Speaker 3: they found human remains.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, so they found the remains of seven people,
Speaker 1: and three of which were brothers. So that is so
Speaker 1: horrific for the families involved. Another person was found the
Speaker 1: day of on the scene and a woman was taken
Speaker 1: to the hospital in critical condition. Several animals were injured
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: I always feel like that when we're traveling, I there's
Speaker 3: always like these stores that sell fireworks and you go
Speaker 3: in and they are huge warehouses of fireworks, Like I
Speaker 3: just wouldn't even go in one of them. They scare
Speaker 3: me because they just have so much flammable stuff that
Speaker 3: you're like, this is going to be a problem if
Speaker 3: this place catches on fire, if someone smokes outside of
Speaker 3: here or something and lights it.
Speaker 1: Well, this was a particularly scary scenario because this warehouse
Speaker 1: didn't hold retail fireworks that were used to seeing out.
Speaker 1: They were a company that specifically specialized in large scale
Speaker 1: display fireworks. So they're saying right now, it's unclear how
Speaker 1: the fire started, but if you see the video of
Speaker 1: the warehouse fire, it's like this giant plume coming out
Speaker 1: of this building and then you just see fireworks shooting
Speaker 1: out from all angles, and that's what caused all the
Speaker 1: other damage. It must be scary to the first responders
Speaker 1: too that are trying to put it out, and they
Speaker 1: just don't know if these like bombs are gonna keep
Speaker 1: shooting out of the building. I know, it's really scary
Speaker 1: and I don't know. Like, so when they say they
Speaker 1: found human remains, that to me means that these people
Speaker 1: were blown into bits, because usually if it's if it's
Speaker 1: a fresh body, they would say they found they found
Speaker 1: seven bodies, and they sound when they say remains it's
Speaker 1: usually either a person that's severely decomposed, skeletonized, or in pieces.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm thinking happened here. A typical firework
Speaker 1: wouldn't cause that kind of a damage you see more
Speaker 1: because they they're more of a lower energy type of explosive.
Speaker 1: But in this situation when they have, like you were saying,
Speaker 1: they were supplying major theatrical fireworks for displays, like did
Speaker 1: you see the one on the Brooklyn Bridge? It was
Speaker 1: like out of control. It looked so cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you think about that level of fireworks
Speaker 3: all together in a factory, then you could see some
Speaker 3: kind of injuries that you would expect to see in
Speaker 3: another kind like a higher energy explosion like a propane
Speaker 3: tank or something like that. So that could cause a
Speaker 3: person to be have blast injuries that would cause the
Speaker 3: sacks and their lungs to rupture and cause bleeding in
Speaker 3: the lung. It could just it could throw them feet
Speaker 3: away from where the initial impact was, and it also
Speaker 3: could blow their body into pieces. Unfortunately, So I wanted
Speaker 3: to tell you because I don't even know if you
Speaker 3: caught this when we were getting ready to do the show.
Speaker 3: But two other firework deaths just came across in the news,
Speaker 3: one being a seventy year old guy that was detonating
Speaker 3: a firework on the beach and it exploded into space.
Speaker 3: And another one was a little girl, eight year old
Speaker 3: girl again involved in a situation where people outside of
Speaker 3: her house were setting off fireworks and she got injured
Speaker 3: by one and it killed her.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not surprised, and we're gonna see them
Speaker 1: rolling out over the next couple of weeks. We see
Speaker 1: it every year on New Year's Eve, on fourth of July,
Speaker 1: Labor Day, Memorial Day. People just can't help themselves. No,
Speaker 1: it's really crazy.
Speaker 3: And I was telling you actually because we had like
Speaker 3: a huge Fourth of July party, which ended up being
Speaker 3: really awesome. Actually, but I was telling Maria that this
Speaker 3: just goes with my theory of you know how, I
Speaker 3: have a theory that people smoke weed more now because
Speaker 3: it's legal, and that makes people think that they're allowed
Speaker 3: to do it, and that's why you see an increase
Speaker 3: of use. I feel like it's the same thing here
Speaker 3: in New Jersey, at least, because fireworks just recently became legal,
Speaker 3: and it's just no coincidence that now every single night
Speaker 3: and it's not just fourth of July, it's been days
Speaker 3: leading up to it. It was still happening last night
Speaker 3: that more and more people are using fireworks. But then
Speaker 3: this article cited with the eight year old that just died,
Speaker 3: that all these people are using illegal fireworks and this
Speaker 3: is what's happening too in our town. Like some of
Speaker 3: the fireworks that were going off, there is absolutely no
Speaker 3: way that a person should be lighting them off when
Speaker 3: there's houses so close together and trees and people. It's
Speaker 3: you know, when remember when we did that high profile
Speaker 3: death dissection on that hockey player matt uh, what was
Speaker 3: his name?
Speaker 2: You could ever say?
Speaker 3: Can't I ever say?
Speaker 2: It's Matif Matif Lennox?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well why can't I say it? I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's just kind of a crazy name. But anyway, he
Speaker 3: when he died, and when we wrote up that high
Speaker 3: profile death disseection, it was like the pyrotechnic people and
Speaker 3: experts that are in this field, they always suggest that
Speaker 3: if you're using any kind of firework like that, that
Speaker 3: you should be when you detonate it, it should be
Speaker 3: fifty feet away from you, which is a huge distance.
Speaker 3: Like I don't even think my next door neighbor's house
Speaker 3: is anywhere near that far away from us, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So just think about doing that in
Speaker 3: a small town, like so many people are using and
Speaker 3: abusing the the legality of what we're allowed to do here.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So similarly, Thursday night, a massive fire also broke out,
Speaker 1: but this time in a neighborhood in LA from fireworks,
Speaker 1: which also damaged multiple properties and killed one man. A
Speaker 1: woman was also reportedly burned so bad that she's now
Speaker 1: in critical condition, and four others were treated for smoke inhalation.
Speaker 3: So the interesting thing about this one, though, is that
Speaker 3: they don't know what started the fire, but this person
Speaker 3: had a very large stock of fireworks, again in a
Speaker 3: residential home. It's just weird. But whatever started the fire
Speaker 3: led to all of these fireworks going off and catching
Speaker 3: fire to nearby houses and brush. It's very well possible
Speaker 3: that the firework itself started the fire, but even if
Speaker 3: it was, I don't know. They were barbecuing on a
Speaker 3: grill and it caught up. Like obviously the explosion is
Speaker 3: going to be ten times worse because they had this
Speaker 3: abnormal stock of fireworks at their house, Like, why does
Speaker 3: a person have to have a large stock of fireworks.
Speaker 3: It's just so weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know people like having them.
Speaker 1: And I was looking up the legality of them in
Speaker 1: California and it seems like you're allowed to have ones
Speaker 1: that are deemed safe by a fire marshal and they
Speaker 1: have specific, specific markings on them to indicate that. But
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they allow them at all with the dry
Speaker 1: conditions they have and they're risk for wildfires.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially since the one that happened this year, I
Speaker 3: would be like, I would think that they would be illegal.
Speaker 3: It is actually interesting that they are allowed like that.
Speaker 1: But I thought this was unusual that only two days apart,
Speaker 1: you have these massive fires, both in California. Don't know,
Speaker 1: if you know, it's like chicken or egg like what started?
Speaker 1: Did the fireworks start the fire that then led the
Speaker 1: other ones to go off, or was there a fire
Speaker 1: that set all the fireworks off. It's such a bizarre
Speaker 1: situation for two of these events that happen in one week.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we haven't seen something like
Speaker 1: this in a while. We usually see stories of people
Speaker 1: that blow their hands off, not whole like areas getting
Speaker 1: affected by an explosion.
Speaker 3: We were out in the backyard. I mean you you
Speaker 3: were still at our house when they started going nuts.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, And it was pretty like not to be
Speaker 1: a total granny about it, but it was like really
Speaker 1: late too, and they're so loud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So as soon as you guys left, I feel
Speaker 3: like you guys left at like ten o'clock later, I
Speaker 3: think eleven, Okay, So like, well, right as soon as
Speaker 3: you guys left, I went up to bed and me
Speaker 3: and Gabor lay in bed and I hear fire talks
Speaker 3: like they're going to a fire, legit, And then there
Speaker 3: was a fatal fire in our town. Two people died
Speaker 3: like right here right after that, and I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: was that? I mean, they didn't say what started it yet,
Speaker 3: but like, I'm just like it, is it coincidental that
Speaker 3: we just heard all that craziness and now a house
Speaker 3: is burning down and it's just terrible.
Speaker 1: So because of how catastrophic this was, over one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty firemen had to respond to the scene, which
Speaker 1: is insane. And then, like in the last story, I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine the danger you're exposing the first responders
Speaker 1: to having these things shoot out of the house and
Speaker 1: not knowing where they're coming from, where they're going, what
Speaker 1: direction they're going, how much damage they're gonna do. Well,
Speaker 1: that's one thing Gab's always taught me.
Speaker 3: It's just like they are always going in and expecting
Speaker 3: the unexpected. You know, Like one time he went into
Speaker 3: a fire and he's like there was like a lawnmower
Speaker 3: filled with gasoline, and container's a gasoline in someone's basement,
Speaker 3: Like why why why would you have that in your house? Ever,
Speaker 3: Like it's you know what I mean, just like people,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it's like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: you have like gasoline in somebody's house and their house
Speaker 3: is on fire. It's just like you never know, and
Speaker 3: if you talk to any normal person, they would say like, no,
Speaker 3: I would never store canisters of gasoline in my basement
Speaker 3: because for obvious reasons.
Speaker 1: But people do, right, Yeah, I mean, I'm sure most
Speaker 1: people's homes you go into have some totally weird, unexpected
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Speaker 3: All right, So this most recent study is kind of
Speaker 3: bumming me out about hot dogs. I love a good
Speaker 3: hot dog, especially at the baseball game.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Let's get it, dude.
Speaker 1: So a new study has been released showing that there's
Speaker 1: quote no safe amount of hot dogs to eat, and
Speaker 1: it links regularly eating process meat to a higher risk
Speaker 1: of type two diabetes and colorectal cancer. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not really surprised hot dogs aren't good for you.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing, though, that you have to
Speaker 3: think about So all right, let's talk about the study
Speaker 3: that was done first. So it's done in Nature medicine,
Speaker 3: and they said a typical hot dog is around fifty grams.
Speaker 3: So they did a study to see if you eat
Speaker 3: one of them a day, and they compared it to
Speaker 3: people who were eating nonprocessed meat, and they found that
Speaker 3: there was an eleven percent higher risk of type two
Speaker 3: diabetes and a seven percent higher risk of colorectal cancer.
Speaker 3: So they're saying that even Like, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: the articles misworded a little bit because it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's no Like I feel like if you say something
Speaker 3: is not safe for human consumption, to me, that's like
Speaker 3: like poison, like drinking bleach, Like yeah, like bleach, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I I feel like I think
Speaker 3: I've had like three hot dogs this year, Like I
Speaker 3: don't think that that's not safe for human consumption. It's
Speaker 3: not safe to eat it every day, but I would
Speaker 3: say in moderation, it's fine, right, Like.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna say, because do you
Speaker 1: I know this person exists, but do you know anybody
Speaker 1: in your life that eats a hot dog every single day?
Speaker 3: No? I don't Gabe would Gabe would Babe is like
Speaker 3: such a hot dog horror he like he'll eat he is.
Speaker 3: He will get a hot dog at like home depot,
Speaker 3: that's like testing. He'll go. He'll get one from the
Speaker 3: shittiest corner person that's selling them. Like all the time
Speaker 3: we've gone out to dinner before, and we'll be in
Speaker 3: the city and then there'll be a hot dog cart
Speaker 3: and he buys a hot dog after we just ate
Speaker 3: like a good meal. He just so even and he
Speaker 3: gets what four? I think he gets four every single
Speaker 3: time we go to the game, and sometimes Ricky brings
Speaker 3: him more later. I know he eats like four to
Speaker 3: six in a sitting, but he but like that's really
Speaker 3: the only time he eats them now, is like when
Speaker 3: we go to games. So I'm gonna show him this
Speaker 3: study and tell him that. But but really like that
Speaker 3: the whole point that I really wanted to talk about
Speaker 3: this is this is like a really important point. So
Speaker 3: you know how there's been an increased risk of colorectal
Speaker 3: cancer and people my age, Yeah, Like, do you think
Speaker 3: it has anything to do with the fact that we
Speaker 3: were like given lunch meat sandwiches every single day of
Speaker 3: our life growing up.
Speaker 1: I mean it could have. I think about this a
Speaker 1: lot though it could have. But also when you were
Speaker 1: getting when you were growing up, it was totally common
Speaker 1: to eat all processed meals all the time. TV dinners
Speaker 1: were huge. You guys were eating lunch meat. And then
Speaker 1: during my age, you know, we have lunch, we have
Speaker 1: things like that. I think the I think processed food
Speaker 1: as a whole is a problem, and that's definitely pulling
Speaker 1: back a little bit, like I feel like my generation
Speaker 1: and younger generations aren't eating as much process food as
Speaker 1: your generation and boomers were eating.
Speaker 3: I don't know, though, I think it depends because like
Speaker 3: my mom cooked dinner every single night. We only went
Speaker 3: out once in a while, and then when we did
Speaker 3: it was pete, it was pizza and stuff like, we
Speaker 3: didn't have a ton of that stuff. But for lunch, definitely,
Speaker 3: and there was and definitely as I got older, I
Speaker 3: always thought like, oh, if you have turkey, it's lunch meat,
Speaker 3: turkey for lunch, it's healthy. And then or if you
Speaker 3: get the turkey and like roll it with a piece
Speaker 3: of cheese or something like that would be considered healthy.
Speaker 3: But it's I started realizing that especially when we became
Speaker 3: gluten free, because I didn't even realize that lunch meat
Speaker 3: had gluten in it. And then you're like, wait a second,
Speaker 3: I thought it was just meat, and it's not. It's
Speaker 3: just full of preservatives and shit, like if they're putting
Speaker 3: some kind of filler in there that has gluten in it.
Speaker 3: So I could see why it's not healthy for you anymore.
Speaker 3: I would, But but like I think, if you want
Speaker 3: to have a HOGI every once in a while, it's
Speaker 3: not going to kill you. You just can't eat it
Speaker 3: for breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day.
Speaker 1: Well seriously, like, obviously processed food is not good, But realistically,
Speaker 1: who has the time to eat one hundred percent of
Speaker 1: their meal from whole foods that they're cooking all the
Speaker 1: meals themselves. I'm serious, Well, who has the time to
Speaker 1: cook like that and eat like that all the time?
Speaker 3: I mean, you could try your bed, but at the
Speaker 3: same time, like you you could, it's just cheaper, like
Speaker 3: especially when you and I are running errands. It's just
Speaker 3: like we always say this that we hate that we
Speaker 3: don't eat glute and anymore because it was so much
Speaker 3: easier to just go to Wah wah and get a
Speaker 3: soft pretzel and eat that for lunch. Right now, we
Speaker 3: can't have our go to lunch. But it's eat I mean,
Speaker 3: it just costs more money to go get a salad
Speaker 3: and you have to sit down and eat it with
Speaker 3: a fork and you can't just like shove it in
Speaker 3: your mouth while you're driving around and stuff. You know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then I think of people like, you know, Joey
Speaker 1: Chestnut who just participated and won the Nathan's Hot Dog
Speaker 1: Contest for the seventeenth time, and this year he ate
Speaker 1: seventy and a half hot dogs.
Speaker 2: In ten minutes.
Speaker 1: So somebody like him, Yes, I think you should study
Speaker 1: a person like that and their longevity because I imagine
Speaker 1: he's not only doing this once a year. There's probably
Speaker 1: some training going into it.
Speaker 3: But does does that have a bun?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Seventy yeah, seventy and a half in ten minutes. This
Speaker 1: is this is my problem.
Speaker 3: You have to train your body for that for sure.
Speaker 3: And I don't know. Yeah, yeah, God, he really shouldn't
Speaker 3: be eating. I mean, I don't know what you could
Speaker 3: eat to mimic the volume. He has to be doing
Speaker 3: something to like I know, but but like he can't
Speaker 3: be eating I have to call him like, he can't
Speaker 3: be eating hot dogs like that, that's really bad.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he talked about him last year during
Speaker 1: this contest, and I'm pretty sure I said this again
Speaker 1: last year. The guy that came in second place had
Speaker 1: forty six hot dogs, so he only had to eat
Speaker 1: forty seven to win. So why did he eat seventy Well, No, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's a good idea actually, because he made the
Speaker 3: world record so much high or is it world or whatever.
Speaker 1: His personal high is seventy six, so this is not
Speaker 1: even the most easy in it.
Speaker 3: But he set the bar so high that it will
Speaker 3: be very hard for anybody to beat that record for
Speaker 3: a very long time, if ever. So I understand why
Speaker 3: he did that that because like what if he wasn't
Speaker 3: able to do it anymore the following year. Like I
Speaker 3: think that it's smart that he kept doing it if
Speaker 3: he wants. I mean, that is a prestigious title to
Speaker 3: hold in your life forever and to be known as
Speaker 3: that even when you die.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they should study a person like that versus
Speaker 1: you know, a proclaimed hot dog horse such as Gabe,
Speaker 1: who does eat a lot of hot dogs, but not
Speaker 1: every single day.
Speaker 3: He might. I wish you'd consider getting him involved in
Speaker 3: one of these competitions. He might be able to do it.
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to see it.
Speaker 3: Because he you know how, you know how when you
Speaker 3: go on the boardwalk, there's that pizza place that's like,
Speaker 3: if you could eat this pizza in ten minutes, you
Speaker 3: get one hundred and fifty pies or something like. It's
Speaker 3: something crazy like that, and he's always like, I could
Speaker 3: do that. I think I could do that, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: there's probably some kind of catch that they want to
Speaker 3: give you all the one hundred and fifty pies in
Speaker 3: like one night. It's not like guaranteed coupon for you know,
Speaker 3: and it's not the it's not really the good pizza
Speaker 3: place either, so like whatever, but yeah, the eating contest
Speaker 3: or what's this guy's body look like?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What is he? He looks like a normal Like he's
Speaker 3: like an average dot. He's just like an average build.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's nothing crazy, but he's just he's just
Speaker 1: this like pivotal figure and not dog eating god that.
Speaker 3: I'm actually really interested in this from an anatomic perspective
Speaker 3: of how he trains for that because thinking about like
Speaker 3: obviously he has to stretch his stomach in order to
Speaker 3: be able to accommodate that. So for example, like we
Speaker 3: just went on the cruise and we ate all you
Speaker 3: could eat, and we all ate like such pigs. And
Speaker 3: now it's like you come home and you feel like
Speaker 3: you're hungrier and stuff, and it's because like your stomach
Speaker 3: stretched out a little bit and you got to reel
Speaker 3: it back in for it to shrink down a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know, It's like, if he's doing that, how is
Speaker 3: he eating huge volumes of food like that to stretch
Speaker 3: his stomach and not gaining weight?
Speaker 1: Well, this one's I think some training goes into the Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I just loved to it. I know.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious of like what he's eating to stretch
Speaker 3: his stomach. That's not he's not taking in calories like
Speaker 3: it's it's just it's like really interesting to me. I'm
Speaker 3: very curious about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it works out because they also can't throw up
Speaker 1: or they get disqualified.
Speaker 3: No, it's not working out. Like if if like I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm being clear of what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to say, if he was trying to let's say he
Speaker 3: was eating sixty hot dogs a day to stretch his
Speaker 3: stomach out to mimic what he was going to do
Speaker 3: for the contest, Like he would get fat as hell,
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter if he worked out or not.
Speaker 3: Like you're consuming I can't even imagine how many calories
Speaker 3: are in one hot dog, let alone. It's just a lot.
Speaker 3: So he has to be ingesting something else that's that's
Speaker 3: doing that. It just would not be possible. I mean,
Speaker 3: isn't it isn't a hot dog like three, three or
Speaker 3: four hundred calories with the bun so I mean times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, there's take it.
Speaker 3: It's so many calories. Like, there's just no way that
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be getting huge unless he was doing something else.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm just really maybe. I mean in theory,
Speaker 3: I guess you could drink like large volumes of water
Speaker 3: to stretch it, but then you risk overhydrated. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. Let's look into put that on the list.
Speaker 3: Let's look into that, because now I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna let that go. I am curious.
Speaker 1: Well, he's no amateur. This is his seventeenth victory.
Speaker 3: Maybe they could interview him in as I'm just so curious, Okay,
Speaker 3: I actually think he got banned and they let him
Speaker 3: back in this year. Why would they ban them.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the logistics of what happened.
Speaker 1: I just remember there was like an incident, and then
Speaker 1: I think they let him back in and then he
Speaker 1: won again. All right, let's we went to this last story.
Speaker 1: A space capsule which was carrying the ashes of one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six people crashed into Pacific Ocean after
Speaker 1: its launch, and now all the remains that were in
Speaker 1: it have been lost at sea.
Speaker 3: This is probably aside from obviously the flooding story, this
Speaker 3: is like the most outrageous story that we have. At first,
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, whatever, let me read this.
Speaker 3: But so there's a company that you could pay to
Speaker 3: send your dead loved ones cremated remains to space so
Speaker 3: they could experience going to space.
Speaker 1: But they don't live in space. This is why I
Speaker 1: think it's idiotic, Like they were intended to go up there,
Speaker 1: orbit the Earth.
Speaker 3: And then come back. Yeah, but what went wrong in
Speaker 3: freaking ashes? Like that's not your loved one? Like why
Speaker 3: would you ever pay a company to do this. This
Speaker 3: is so outrageous.
Speaker 1: It's stupid, and like, yeah, because I I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to like spread their ashes in space,
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, right, But like they're not getting
Speaker 1: They're not like going up there and being dispersed into space.
Speaker 1: They're going around the Earth twice and then coming back.
Speaker 1: So you could keep them. But what went wrong in
Speaker 1: this case was they lost communication with the capsule when
Speaker 1: it was returning, it crashed into the Pacific Ocean and
Speaker 1: then I'm assuming the thing like popped open and all
Speaker 1: the remains got scattered at sea. So now the company
Speaker 1: can't retrieve their remains and they're effectively lost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're just like, well, I mean, I know
Speaker 3: this isn't the outcome you wanted, but you should think
Speaker 3: of it as being like that you were scattered at sea.
Speaker 3: It's a very respectful way. Millions of people do it.
Speaker 3: So so I'm looking at this, this comment from the company,
Speaker 3: and my first thought is like, oh shit, you know what,
Speaker 3: like people are paying to do this. Actually, so are
Speaker 3: these people getting their money back? But like now I'm curious,
Speaker 3: like how much does this cost? Wait till you hear
Speaker 3: this shit. It is so outrageous. So you could choose
Speaker 3: how much of your family member you would like to send,
Speaker 3: So it could go anywhere from one gram of their
Speaker 3: ashes to seven grams. Okay, and according to what size
Speaker 3: you pick and what kind of flight that you want
Speaker 3: to do. So, as Maria was saying, this one orbited
Speaker 3: the Earth two times, they also the cheapest one that
Speaker 3: you can do is one that goes to space and
Speaker 3: then goes right back to Earth. The second is the
Speaker 3: one we just talked about, the one that orbits Earth twice.
Speaker 3: Then there's another option you could pick launch to the
Speaker 3: lunar orbit or surface, and the most expensive one is
Speaker 3: being launched into deep space. Now, depending on what what
Speaker 3: flight you choose, what flight you choose, and how much
Speaker 3: of your family member you want to send. I mean
Speaker 3: one gram is like, it's just outrageous. Anyway, you you're
Speaker 3: not gonna believe this. So it could range anywhere from
Speaker 3: depending on how many grams they picked for this particular flight,
Speaker 3: it could range anywhere from five thousand dollars to twenty
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: What, Yes, this is such a waste of money. Are
Speaker 1: thinking it's so much money?
Speaker 3: So if I did, let's say pop Pop is a
Speaker 3: good example. He would totally love to go to space.
Speaker 3: Like when he dies, he will get when he dies,
Speaker 3: we'll get his ashes. One gram we'll send and we'll
Speaker 3: do this this particular flight, it would cost us five
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, but if we wanted to send seven grams,
Speaker 3: it would cost us twenty one thousand dollars. So I
Speaker 3: did the math of one hundred and sixty six people,
Speaker 3: which means that they made anywhere between eight hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars to three point four million dollars. Okay,
Speaker 3: but like where it's out, it's like out of control,
Speaker 3: and obviously, like to put a capsule up into space
Speaker 3: probably costs a shit a ton of money.
Speaker 2: That's what I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure there was I'm sure that it's putting
Speaker 3: other things up there, and these little capsules, because even
Speaker 3: as seven gram capsule is so small, it would all
Speaker 3: fit in like a little ups box. Like there's other things,
Speaker 3: payloads that are going up there as well. I'm sure
Speaker 3: it's not just specifically for this. So I just think
Speaker 3: it's it's mine to me that a company is I
Speaker 3: feel like it's gross and that they're preying on people
Speaker 3: that lost loved ones. When you're sending up something that
Speaker 3: it's just like the silliest thing I've ever heard in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 1: I would understand more if the ashes were getting released
Speaker 1: into space, not going around the Earth for a scenic
Speaker 1: view and then coming back.
Speaker 3: It's as if they could even see what was happening
Speaker 3: like it. It just sounds so outrageous to me. How
Speaker 3: does anybody get peace with that? And at that price tag?
Speaker 3: I don't know, is that just like people that just
Speaker 3: have literally nothing to do with their money, Like this
Speaker 3: is the most excessive waste I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 3: I would like to hear from somebody that's done it
Speaker 3: and they're reasoning for doing it, because it really just
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. I don't know if anyone that's
Speaker 3: listening to our show has done something like this.
Speaker 1: You don't know, somebody out there might know someone that
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 3: It's I just can't I just couldn't believe it. And
Speaker 3: that like the most expensive flight, I just like, I
Speaker 3: can't even imagine that people are doing that, Like the
Speaker 3: seven grams for the one that goes that launches into
Speaker 3: deep space is freaking almost forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's so I just I was like reading this and
Speaker 3: I'm like, is this serious. So I'm reading the website
Speaker 3: and it said the company is called Celestius, and it's
Speaker 3: like they've been around for twenty years, has assisted people
Speaker 3: from all over the world to celebrate, honor and remember
Speaker 3: lives dedicated to exploration, adventure, passion, and human presence among
Speaker 3: the stars. It's called a memorial spaceflight. This would be
Speaker 3: as stupid as sending ashes on the Titan submersible so
Speaker 3: your ashes could get a glimpse of the ten it is.
Speaker 3: It's just like, come back up exactly. I'm paying like
Speaker 3: five to forty thousand dollars to do it.
Speaker 2: This is outrageous.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's like a capsule, like it's a pill.
Speaker 3: It's just so it's just so crazy to me. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't believe that I've never heard of this. Actually,
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: At secretly changing your will to be like I want
Speaker 1: my ashes to go to space.
Speaker 3: No, I would just be so I don't even care
Speaker 3: if you had five billion dollars. This is just it's
Speaker 3: so wasteful. I just it just actually annoys the shit
Speaker 3: out of me. All right, let's move on to Questions
Speaker 3: of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother Knows
Speaker 3: Death Instagram account, you guys could head over to our
Speaker 3: story and.
Speaker 2: Ask us whatever you want. First.
Speaker 1: If someone is brain dead and donating their organs, when
Speaker 1: are they pronounced dead and the oar after the first
Speaker 1: organ is taken out or beforehand, like before their honor walk.
Speaker 3: So I don't know the answer to this, because I've
Speaker 3: never pronounced anyone dead, but I do know that when
Speaker 3: you're legally brain dead, you're considered that's illegal death, and
Speaker 3: that's when you should be This is how it should
Speaker 3: be done, that you should be pronounced dead when you're
Speaker 3: legally declared brain dead. They have to if, for example,
Speaker 3: if they're harvesting organs for a person. So sometimes a
Speaker 3: person like let's say, for example, they get in a
Speaker 3: motorcycle accident and they have a fatal injury, but they're
Speaker 3: twenty five years old and their organs are perfectly healthy,
Speaker 3: but they're just like they're brain dead. They're they're certified
Speaker 3: to be brain dead at that time, they should off
Speaker 3: they should pronounce the death and offer a death certificate.
Speaker 3: But the person would still be kept alive technically alive
Speaker 3: on machines, meaning you're going to feel their body. They're
Speaker 3: still going to feel warm, it's still going to look
Speaker 3: like they're breathing and their heart is still beating. But
Speaker 3: they're dead. They're just keeping the organs perfused you would say,
Speaker 3: or filled with oxygenated blood to keep them alive to
Speaker 3: harvest them. But when the person is declared legally brain dead,
Speaker 3: they're dead. They can't if they get the organs harvests,
Speaker 3: they don't feel it. They're not going to wake up.
Speaker 3: This is the ultimate test to say, okay, somebody is
Speaker 3: definitely dead. So even if this is a good example,
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the woman we were talking about
Speaker 3: in Georgia who had that fatal Would she have a
Speaker 3: stroke I believe, and she was pregnant. Remember they kept
Speaker 3: her alive for a couple months because she was pregnant. Technically,
Speaker 3: she should have been pronounced dead on the day that
Speaker 3: they declared her brain dead, because that would have been
Speaker 3: the day that they would have removed her from the
Speaker 3: from whatever assistance she was having to breathe and everything.
Speaker 3: But they usually don't wait until that happens. But I
Speaker 3: don't one percent know, because I know that there's definitely
Speaker 3: rules for all sorts of things when people die and
Speaker 3: how death certificate should be filled out and stuff, and
Speaker 3: I also know that people never do follow the rules.
Speaker 3: I've worked at different hospitals and and interned at different
Speaker 3: home hospitals throughout my career, my education, and I've just
Speaker 3: seen lots of different hospitals doing things different ways that
Speaker 3: aren't really what you're supposed to do. So so I
Speaker 3: hope that helps that. I'm not sure all right too.
Speaker 1: Was it harder being pregnant as a teen or in
Speaker 1: your thirties or was it the same. I think like
Speaker 1: being pregnant as a teen socially was harder, but physically no,
Speaker 1: it was it was like nothing I felt. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sick at all.
Speaker 3: I felt good, you know, I had Maria. I went
Speaker 3: back to wearing my normal jeans like a couple of
Speaker 3: days later, it was it was like uneventful, no medical drama.
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was kind of good physically,
Speaker 3: but I mean the next time that I was pregnant,
Speaker 3: what was.
Speaker 1: I thirty three, thirty three or thirty.
Speaker 3: Four, I was like, yeah, I was. It was probably
Speaker 3: it was probably right before I turned thirty four, so
Speaker 3: or no, no, Ripe, so thirty three, Yeah, because seven
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 1: You got pregnant in twenty twelve, so you would have
Speaker 1: you were thirty two turning thirty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean I was just which is still
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not old, but it's old for you know,
Speaker 3: having a baby, and that one was that was definitely
Speaker 3: way harder than before. For sure.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy you were only thirty two because I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here like thinking you're.
Speaker 2: Like forty five.
Speaker 1: Like mentally, when I was a teenager and he told
Speaker 1: me you were pregnant with Lillian, I was like, you
Speaker 1: were so old, right because.
Speaker 2: You were so young when you had me.
Speaker 1: But now I'm going to be thirty one this year,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like I want it's not
Speaker 3: I remember when I had Lucia. Because I had Lucia
Speaker 3: like a year and a half day after I had Lilian,
Speaker 3: and then I was thirty four when I got pregnant,
Speaker 3: but I was going to be thirty five when I
Speaker 3: had her, so they considered me to be advanced maternal age,
Speaker 3: and I got all the extra treatment. Plus I had
Speaker 3: all those issues with you know, the hospital almost letting
Speaker 3: me die and such after I had Lilian, so that
Speaker 3: worked out well. But yeah, I mean, like when I
Speaker 3: was pregnant with Maria, Maria, I didn't have any morning
Speaker 3: I never really had morning sickness with any of the kids.
Speaker 3: But I didn't have hypertension I had like, I didn't
Speaker 3: get swollen, nothing. There was just like no drama. Dan't
Speaker 3: gain weight. Lilian, on the other hand, was like eighty
Speaker 3: pounds later. Well, I would say, even though I gained
Speaker 3: eighty pounds with Lilian towards the end, I really think that,
Speaker 3: like because I swear a week after I had her
Speaker 3: and I weighed myself, I had lost forty five pounds already,
Speaker 3: like and that wasn't just the baby, Like I had
Speaker 3: so much fluid in my body, Like remember how big
Speaker 3: my feet were. I couldn't even wear shoes. It was
Speaker 3: just terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that was like shocking too, considering hell,
Speaker 1: first time around, it was pretty seamless for you, and
Speaker 1: then second time you were sick, and yeah.
Speaker 2: It just was.
Speaker 3: It was, it was a lot different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I don't know why it's so funny
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, you just seem so much older
Speaker 1: when you had her, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm that age now.
Speaker 1: It seems so ridiculous to have thought that. All right, three,
Speaker 1: would you rather be lost in space or at sea?
Speaker 2: Going back to the earlier question.
Speaker 3: This is a good question for all the dead people
Speaker 3: that just it's like, well, they wanted to be a
Speaker 3: bit of space. Yeah, they got a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: I hope. So getting back to that, actually, I hope
Speaker 3: I hope those people are getting a refund.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the remains were lost and they're supposed to
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think this is lawsuit worthy. The service
Speaker 3: was not completed, so it was not only not completed,
Speaker 3: but now they don't get it back. And then they
Speaker 3: tried to say they hope they could be satisfied with
Speaker 3: their burial at sea, Like I don't think so.
Speaker 2: You didn't prefer they had.
Speaker 3: To sign, they had to sign some kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably all right, But what's your answer is.
Speaker 2: For sure? All right?
Speaker 1: So I think I have different scenarios. If I'm in
Speaker 1: the vessel, I'm if I'm lost in the vessel, I
Speaker 1: would say at sea because there is a chance you
Speaker 1: could be rescued, right, I mean, I guess you could
Speaker 1: in space theoretically too, if.
Speaker 2: You think of the bowing astronauts. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd feel more comfortable getting lost in the vessel at sea.
Speaker 1: But if it was like my body, I think I'd
Speaker 1: prefer space because you're gonna die immediately being in space.
Speaker 1: But if you're lost in the ocean, as we see
Speaker 1: in some cases, you could be alive for a while
Speaker 1: just treading water, and then you have animals and the heat,
Speaker 1: and then you could drown eventually, So that doesn't seem
Speaker 1: fun at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you might stumble across the little island that
Speaker 3: you could live on.
Speaker 1: That it just seems like such a rare chase.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's funny because I'm like, ah, well, we
Speaker 3: just selled all the way to Bermuda for a day
Speaker 3: and a half. I didn't see one little piece of land,
Speaker 3: not even a rock sticking up out of the water.
Speaker 2: You know how ridiculous this was.
Speaker 1: I saw the new Jurassic Park yesterday and there's like
Speaker 1: a dinosaur sized whale like figure in the water that
Speaker 1: knocks a boat over and it just gave me such
Speaker 1: a different level of anxiety for something that's completely like
Speaker 1: fabricated and fictional.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we didn't even see like I saw
Speaker 3: a dolphin like once. There's like nothing there.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, what if a whale like hits a
Speaker 1: cruise ship.
Speaker 3: It's not going to do anything a cruise ships so big?
Speaker 2: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: It was what the iceberg did the Titanic.
Speaker 3: That's because it was like a huge rock underground and
Speaker 3: it hit it directly. All right.
Speaker 2: Now that everybody thinks we're dumb.
Speaker 1: From up there, that's it didn't just happened today, by
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