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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. As usual, we have

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Speaker 3: so many great stories for you guys this week. Today,

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Speaker 3: we're going to start off with the devastating floods in Texas.

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Speaker 3: Actor Michael Madsen is dead. He was pretty young, so

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Speaker 3: that was kind of shocking. Of course, we just celebrated

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Speaker 3: Fourth of July in America this weekend, and to no

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Speaker 3: one's surprise, there's been multiple firework injuries and deaths. One

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Speaker 3: staple of the Fourth of July holiday, at least for

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Speaker 3: us anyways, hot dogs, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: why medical experts say there is no amount of hot

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Speaker 3: dogs that is safe for human consumption. That's kind of

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Speaker 3: a very bold statement, honestly. And a space capsule that

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Speaker 3: was carrying human remains into space that crashed. All that

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Speaker 3: and more, including your questions on today's episode, let's get

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Speaker 3: started talking about these This is just so horrific for

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Speaker 3: any parent to be watching what's unraveling in Texas right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on fourth of July, several counties in central Texas,

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Speaker 1: it was a little northwest of San Antonio. They were

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Speaker 1: hit with these horrific floods. So the Guadalupe River rose

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Speaker 1: over twenty feet in just a matter of forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: which must have been absolutely terrifying. And one of the

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Speaker 1: most disturbing parts of the story is that a summer

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Speaker 1: camp was near the river. It held over seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty girls. Initially over two dozen of them were missing,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I guess along this Guadalupe River there's

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Speaker 3: multiple places that have camps for kids or even just

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Speaker 3: there was. It also occurred on fourth of July, so

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Speaker 3: they don't even know exactly how many people people were

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Speaker 3: along the river just celebrating anyway. So really trying to

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Speaker 3: get a true estimate of what happened is really hard

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Speaker 3: to determine at this time. But as of right now

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Speaker 3: when we're recording, it looks like the water started to

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Speaker 3: them and imagine being in your bed sleeping and the

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Speaker 3: encountering that, especially as a child. It sounded like some

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Speaker 3: So it like it's just a lot for people to

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Speaker 3: there's still a lot of people missing, including children, which

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Speaker 3: is just I can't even imagine what the parents are

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Speaker 3: Could you even imagine how terrible that is? No, absolutely not,

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Speaker 3: And we know from past floods. I mean, Gabe went

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Speaker 3: And in fact, there was a woman that was camping

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's really lucky she survived it, because, as

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Speaker 1: we see in this case, all these people were missing.

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Speaker 1: Some people are found alive, and some people are unfortunately

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Speaker 3: No, it's been too many days, and I mean, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: But there were seven hundred and some people at this camp, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was a lot of people, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like they predicted as early as Wednesday that

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Speaker 1: So how are you supposed to predict it's going to

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Speaker 3: We live, well, I mean in theory, whether people should

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Speaker 3: just shows the greatness of this. It's said that this

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Speaker 3: It could fill one point five million Olympic sized pools

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Speaker 3: just I don't know, it's just like a crazy natural disaster.

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Speaker 3: You say the same thing when there's tsunamis and there's

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think flash flood warnings are one

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Speaker 1: horrific things like this. Even when you were saying, like,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's You're right in saying whether people

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Speaker 3: Well, that's every day of my life, I feel, so.

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Speaker 1: I guess right now where it's landing is that some

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're going to do an

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Michael Madsen. You want to hear.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I told you this, but last

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Speaker 3: I haven't said that dude's name in such a long time,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the world just works like that.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's been a couple of times I've had dreams

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Speaker 2: And then Mama'm always I.

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Speaker 3: Remember that one time you did with one of our

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Speaker 1: It's happened to me at least three times, and Mamam

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Speaker 1: always jokes with me that she hopes I don't dream

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Speaker 3: But yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Michael Madson. He's mostly well known for being in

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Speaker 1: years old from your favorite cause of death, cardiac arrest.

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Speaker 3: So it's so annoying. Oh, he died because his heart stopped.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the information. So I was looking into him

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Speaker 3: a little and apparently he's been having a problem with

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Speaker 3: alcoholism for a long time. So I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: that contributed to his death, but it's likely that it

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Speaker 3: did if he's been drinking alcohol like that for a

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Speaker 1: Well, I also read that in twenty twenty two his

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Speaker 1: he was dealing with, according to his loved ones, immense grief.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if you know, the heartbreak has played

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Speaker 1: a little bit into that, maybe that drove the alcohol consumption.

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Speaker 1: It's really sad what's going on. But hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 1: generalized cardiac orist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking about that. We usually do get

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Speaker 3: follow up with actors, but we never did. We ever

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Speaker 3: get a follow up on ray leodamor Remember he died

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Speaker 3: and everybody was kind of shocked about it. I feel

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Speaker 3: like we never really heard what happened with him.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think we did.

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Speaker 1: But didn't he die on vacation or somewhere else? Because

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Speaker 1: So similarly, Thursday night, a massive fire also broke out,

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Speaker 1: the Grosser Room. So we've been talking about all day.

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Speaker 1: We have so many Fourth of July related injury posts

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Speaker 3: I just did one a post yesterday called groundhog Day

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Speaker 3: could happen, and yet every single year we hear about

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Speaker 3: All right, So this most recent study is kind of

441
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Speaker 3: bumming me out about hot dogs. I love a good

442
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: hot dog, especially at the baseball game.

443
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.

444
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: Let's get it, dude.

445
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: So a new study has been released showing that there's

446
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: quote no safe amount of hot dogs to eat, and

447
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: it links regularly eating process meat to a higher risk

448
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: of type two diabetes and colorectal cancer. I mean, I'm

449
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: not really surprised hot dogs aren't good for you.

450
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing, though, that you have to

451
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: think about So all right, let's talk about the study

452
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: that was done first. So it's done in Nature medicine,

453
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: and they said a typical hot dog is around fifty grams.

454
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Speaker 3: So they did a study to see if you eat

455
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Speaker 3: one of them a day, and they compared it to

456
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: people who were eating nonprocessed meat, and they found that

457
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Speaker 3: there was an eleven percent higher risk of type two

458
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Speaker 3: diabetes and a seven percent higher risk of colorectal cancer.

459
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Speaker 3: So they're saying that even Like, I feel like it's

460
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: the articles misworded a little bit because it's like, oh,

461
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: there's no Like I feel like if you say something

462
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: is not safe for human consumption, to me, that's like

463
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: like poison, like drinking bleach, Like yeah, like bleach, you

464
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I I feel like I think

465
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 3: I've had like three hot dogs this year, Like I

466
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: don't think that that's not safe for human consumption. It's

467
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: not safe to eat it every day, but I would

468
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: say in moderation, it's fine, right, Like.

469
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Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna say, because do you

470
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Speaker 1: I know this person exists, but do you know anybody

471
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Speaker 1: in your life that eats a hot dog every single day?

472
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Speaker 3: No? I don't Gabe would Gabe would Babe is like

473
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: such a hot dog horror he like he'll eat he is.

474
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Speaker 3: He will get a hot dog at like home depot,

475
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: that's like testing. He'll go. He'll get one from the

476
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Speaker 3: shittiest corner person that's selling them. Like all the time

477
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Speaker 3: we've gone out to dinner before, and we'll be in

478
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Speaker 3: the city and then there'll be a hot dog cart

479
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Speaker 3: and he buys a hot dog after we just ate

480
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: like a good meal. He just so even and he

481
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: gets what four? I think he gets four every single

482
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: time we go to the game, and sometimes Ricky brings

483
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: him more later. I know he eats like four to

484
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: six in a sitting, but he but like that's really

485
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: the only time he eats them now, is like when

486
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: we go to games. So I'm gonna show him this

487
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: study and tell him that. But but really like that

488
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Speaker 3: the whole point that I really wanted to talk about

489
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Speaker 3: this is this is like a really important point. So

490
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Speaker 3: you know how there's been an increased risk of colorectal

491
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Speaker 3: cancer and people my age, Yeah, Like, do you think

492
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: it has anything to do with the fact that we

493
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: were like given lunch meat sandwiches every single day of

494
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Speaker 3: our life growing up.

495
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Speaker 1: I mean it could have. I think about this a

496
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: lot though it could have. But also when you were

497
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: getting when you were growing up, it was totally common

498
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: to eat all processed meals all the time. TV dinners

499
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: were huge. You guys were eating lunch meat. And then

500
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Speaker 1: during my age, you know, we have lunch, we have

501
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: things like that. I think the I think processed food

502
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: as a whole is a problem, and that's definitely pulling

503
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: back a little bit, like I feel like my generation

504
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: and younger generations aren't eating as much process food as

505
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Speaker 1: your generation and boomers were eating.

506
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Speaker 3: I don't know, though, I think it depends because like

507
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: my mom cooked dinner every single night. We only went

508
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: out once in a while, and then when we did

509
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: it was pete, it was pizza and stuff like, we

510
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: didn't have a ton of that stuff. But for lunch, definitely,

511
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: and there was and definitely as I got older, I

512
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: always thought like, oh, if you have turkey, it's lunch meat,

513
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: turkey for lunch, it's healthy. And then or if you

514
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: get the turkey and like roll it with a piece

515
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: of cheese or something like that would be considered healthy.

516
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 3: But it's I started realizing that especially when we became

517
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Speaker 3: gluten free, because I didn't even realize that lunch meat

518
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: had gluten in it. And then you're like, wait a second,

519
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: I thought it was just meat, and it's not. It's

520
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 3: just full of preservatives and shit, like if they're putting

521
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: some kind of filler in there that has gluten in it.

522
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: So I could see why it's not healthy for you anymore.

523
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: I would, But but like I think, if you want

524
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: to have a HOGI every once in a while, it's

525
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: not going to kill you. You just can't eat it

526
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: for breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day.

527
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Speaker 1: Well seriously, like, obviously processed food is not good, But realistically,

528
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: who has the time to eat one hundred percent of

529
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Speaker 1: their meal from whole foods that they're cooking all the

530
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Speaker 1: meals themselves. I'm serious, Well, who has the time to

531
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Speaker 1: cook like that and eat like that all the time?

532
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Speaker 3: I mean, you could try your bed, but at the

533
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: same time, like you you could, it's just cheaper, like

534
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: especially when you and I are running errands. It's just

535
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: like we always say this that we hate that we

536
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: don't eat glute and anymore because it was so much

537
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: easier to just go to Wah wah and get a

538
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: soft pretzel and eat that for lunch. Right now, we

539
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: can't have our go to lunch. But it's eat I mean,

540
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: it just costs more money to go get a salad

541
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Speaker 3: and you have to sit down and eat it with

542
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Speaker 3: a fork and you can't just like shove it in

543
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: your mouth while you're driving around and stuff. You know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

545
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Speaker 1: And then I think of people like, you know, Joey

546
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Speaker 1: Chestnut who just participated and won the Nathan's Hot Dog

547
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Speaker 1: Contest for the seventeenth time, and this year he ate

548
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: seventy and a half hot dogs.

549
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Speaker 2: In ten minutes.

550
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Speaker 1: So somebody like him, Yes, I think you should study

551
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Speaker 1: a person like that and their longevity because I imagine

552
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: he's not only doing this once a year. There's probably

553
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: some training going into it.

554
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: But does does that have a bun?

555
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Yes?

556
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Seventy yeah, seventy and a half in ten minutes. This

557
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: is this is my problem.

558
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: You have to train your body for that for sure.

559
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know. Yeah, yeah, God, he really shouldn't

560
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: be eating. I mean, I don't know what you could

561
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: eat to mimic the volume. He has to be doing

562
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: something to like I know, but but like he can't

563
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: be eating I have to call him like, he can't

564
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: be eating hot dogs like that, that's really bad.

565
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he talked about him last year during

566
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Speaker 1: this contest, and I'm pretty sure I said this again

567
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: last year. The guy that came in second place had

568
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Speaker 1: forty six hot dogs, so he only had to eat

569
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Speaker 1: forty seven to win. So why did he eat seventy Well, No, I.

570
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Speaker 3: Think that's a good idea actually, because he made the

571
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Speaker 3: world record so much high or is it world or whatever.

572
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: His personal high is seventy six, so this is not

573
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Speaker 1: even the most easy in it.

574
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Speaker 3: But he set the bar so high that it will

575
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: be very hard for anybody to beat that record for

576
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: a very long time, if ever. So I understand why

577
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Speaker 3: he did that that because like what if he wasn't

578
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: able to do it anymore the following year. Like I

579
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: think that it's smart that he kept doing it if

580
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: he wants. I mean, that is a prestigious title to

581
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: hold in your life forever and to be known as

582
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Speaker 3: that even when you die.

583
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

584
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I think they should study a person like that versus

585
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Speaker 1: you know, a proclaimed hot dog horse such as Gabe,

586
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: who does eat a lot of hot dogs, but not

587
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: every single day.

588
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: He might. I wish you'd consider getting him involved in

589
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: one of these competitions. He might be able to do it.

590
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to see it.

591
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: Because he you know how, you know how when you

592
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: go on the boardwalk, there's that pizza place that's like,

593
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: if you could eat this pizza in ten minutes, you

594
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: get one hundred and fifty pies or something like. It's

595
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: something crazy like that, and he's always like, I could

596
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: do that. I think I could do that, And I'm like,

597
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: there's probably some kind of catch that they want to

598
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: give you all the one hundred and fifty pies in

599
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: like one night. It's not like guaranteed coupon for you know,

600
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: and it's not the it's not really the good pizza

601
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: place either, so like whatever, but yeah, the eating contest

602
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: or what's this guy's body look like?

603
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Like?

604
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: What is he? He looks like a normal Like he's

605
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: like an average dot. He's just like an average build.

606
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's nothing crazy, but he's just he's just

607
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: this like pivotal figure and not dog eating god that.

608
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Speaker 3: I'm actually really interested in this from an anatomic perspective

609
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: of how he trains for that because thinking about like

610
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: obviously he has to stretch his stomach in order to

611
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: be able to accommodate that. So for example, like we

612
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: just went on the cruise and we ate all you

613
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: could eat, and we all ate like such pigs. And

614
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: now it's like you come home and you feel like

615
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: you're hungrier and stuff, and it's because like your stomach

616
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: stretched out a little bit and you got to reel

617
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: it back in for it to shrink down a little bit.

618
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Speaker 3: You know, It's like, if he's doing that, how is

619
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: he eating huge volumes of food like that to stretch

620
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Speaker 3: his stomach and not gaining weight?

621
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Speaker 1: Well, this one's I think some training goes into the Yeah,

622
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Speaker 1: like I just loved to it. I know.

623
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Speaker 3: I'm just curious of like what he's eating to stretch

624
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: his stomach. That's not he's not taking in calories like

625
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: it's it's just it's like really interesting to me. I'm

626
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: very curious about it.

627
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: Maybe it works out because they also can't throw up

628
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: or they get disqualified.

629
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Speaker 3: No, it's not working out. Like if if like I

630
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm being clear of what I'm trying

631
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: to say, if he was trying to let's say he

632
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: was eating sixty hot dogs a day to stretch his

633
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: stomach out to mimic what he was going to do

634
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: for the contest, Like he would get fat as hell,

635
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter if he worked out or not.

636
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: Like you're consuming I can't even imagine how many calories

637
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: are in one hot dog, let alone. It's just a lot.

638
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: So he has to be ingesting something else that's that's

639
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: doing that. It just would not be possible. I mean,

640
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: isn't it isn't a hot dog like three, three or

641
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: four hundred calories with the bun so I mean times.

642
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, there's take it.

643
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: It's so many calories. Like, there's just no way that

644
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be getting huge unless he was doing something else.

645
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: That's why I'm just really maybe. I mean in theory,

646
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: I guess you could drink like large volumes of water

647
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: to stretch it, but then you risk overhydrated. I don't know.

648
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. Let's look into put that on the list.

649
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: Let's look into that, because now I'm not gonna I'm

650
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: not gonna let that go. I am curious.

651
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Speaker 1: Well, he's no amateur. This is his seventeenth victory.

652
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they could interview him in as I'm just so curious, Okay,

653
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: I actually think he got banned and they let him

654
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: back in this year. Why would they ban them.

655
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember the logistics of what happened.

656
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: I just remember there was like an incident, and then

657
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: I think they let him back in and then he

658
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: won again. All right, let's we went to this last story.

659
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: A space capsule which was carrying the ashes of one

660
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six people crashed into Pacific Ocean after

661
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: its launch, and now all the remains that were in

662
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: it have been lost at sea.

663
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: This is probably aside from obviously the flooding story, this

664
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: is like the most outrageous story that we have. At first,

665
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, whatever, let me read this.

666
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: But so there's a company that you could pay to

667
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: send your dead loved ones cremated remains to space so

668
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: they could experience going to space.

669
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: But they don't live in space. This is why I

670
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: think it's idiotic, Like they were intended to go up there,

671
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: orbit the Earth.

672
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: And then come back. Yeah, but what went wrong in

673
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: freaking ashes? Like that's not your loved one? Like why

674
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: would you ever pay a company to do this. This

675
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: is so outrageous.

676
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: It's stupid, and like, yeah, because I I'm thinking, okay,

677
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: if you want to like spread their ashes in space,

678
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, right, But like they're not getting

679
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: They're not like going up there and being dispersed into space.

680
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: They're going around the Earth twice and then coming back.

681
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: So you could keep them. But what went wrong in

682
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: this case was they lost communication with the capsule when

683
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: it was returning, it crashed into the Pacific Ocean and

684
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: then I'm assuming the thing like popped open and all

685
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: the remains got scattered at sea. So now the company

686
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: can't retrieve their remains and they're effectively lost.

687
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're just like, well, I mean, I know

688
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: this isn't the outcome you wanted, but you should think

689
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: of it as being like that you were scattered at sea.

690
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: It's a very respectful way. Millions of people do it.

691
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: So so I'm looking at this, this comment from the company,

692
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: and my first thought is like, oh shit, you know what,

693
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: like people are paying to do this. Actually, so are

694
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: these people getting their money back? But like now I'm curious,

695
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: like how much does this cost? Wait till you hear

696
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: this shit. It is so outrageous. So you could choose

697
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: how much of your family member you would like to send,

698
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 3: So it could go anywhere from one gram of their

699
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: ashes to seven grams. Okay, and according to what size

700
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 3: you pick and what kind of flight that you want

701
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: to do. So, as Maria was saying, this one orbited

702
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: the Earth two times, they also the cheapest one that

703
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: you can do is one that goes to space and

704
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: then goes right back to Earth. The second is the

705
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: one we just talked about, the one that orbits Earth twice.

706
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: Then there's another option you could pick launch to the

707
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: lunar orbit or surface, and the most expensive one is

708
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: being launched into deep space. Now, depending on what what

709
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: flight you choose, what flight you choose, and how much

710
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: of your family member you want to send. I mean

711
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: one gram is like, it's just outrageous. Anyway, you you're

712
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 3: not gonna believe this. So it could range anywhere from

713
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: depending on how many grams they picked for this particular flight,

714
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: it could range anywhere from five thousand dollars to twenty

715
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars.

716
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: What, Yes, this is such a waste of money. Are

717
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: thinking it's so much money?

718
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: So if I did, let's say pop Pop is a

719
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: good example. He would totally love to go to space.

720
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: Like when he dies, he will get when he dies,

721
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: we'll get his ashes. One gram we'll send and we'll

722
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: do this this particular flight, it would cost us five

723
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, but if we wanted to send seven grams,

724
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: it would cost us twenty one thousand dollars. So I

725
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: did the math of one hundred and sixty six people,

726
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: which means that they made anywhere between eight hundred and

727
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars to three point four million dollars. Okay,

728
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: but like where it's out, it's like out of control,

729
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 3: and obviously, like to put a capsule up into space

730
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: probably costs a shit a ton of money.

731
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: That's what I was just gonna say.

732
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: But I'm sure there was I'm sure that it's putting

733
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: other things up there, and these little capsules, because even

734
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: as seven gram capsule is so small, it would all

735
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: fit in like a little ups box. Like there's other things,

736
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: payloads that are going up there as well. I'm sure

737
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: it's not just specifically for this. So I just think

738
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: it's it's mine to me that a company is I

739
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: feel like it's gross and that they're preying on people

740
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: that lost loved ones. When you're sending up something that

741
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: it's just like the silliest thing I've ever heard in

742
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: my life.

743
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: I would understand more if the ashes were getting released

744
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: into space, not going around the Earth for a scenic

745
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: view and then coming back.

746
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: It's as if they could even see what was happening

747
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: like it. It just sounds so outrageous to me. How

748
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: does anybody get peace with that? And at that price tag?

749
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, is that just like people that just

750
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: have literally nothing to do with their money, Like this

751
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: is the most excessive waste I've ever heard in my life.

752
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: I would like to hear from somebody that's done it

753
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: and they're reasoning for doing it, because it really just

754
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. I don't know if anyone that's

755
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: listening to our show has done something like this.

756
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: You don't know, somebody out there might know someone that

757
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: did it.

758
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: It's I just can't I just couldn't believe it. And

759
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: that like the most expensive flight, I just like, I

760
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: can't even imagine that people are doing that, Like the

761
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: seven grams for the one that goes that launches into

762
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: deep space is freaking almost forty thousand dollars.

763
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.

764
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: It's so I just I was like reading this and

765
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, is this serious. So I'm reading the website

766
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: and it said the company is called Celestius, and it's

767
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: like they've been around for twenty years, has assisted people

768
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: from all over the world to celebrate, honor and remember

769
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: lives dedicated to exploration, adventure, passion, and human presence among

770
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: the stars. It's called a memorial spaceflight. This would be

771
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: as stupid as sending ashes on the Titan submersible so

772
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 3: your ashes could get a glimpse of the ten it is.

773
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: It's just like, come back up exactly. I'm paying like

774
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: five to forty thousand dollars to do it.

775
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: This is outrageous.

776
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: And it's like it's like a capsule, like it's a pill.

777
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: It's just so it's just so crazy to me. Anyway, Yeah,

778
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: I can't believe that I've never heard of this. Actually,

779
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: I'm excited.

780
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: At secretly changing your will to be like I want

781
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: my ashes to go to space.

782
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: No, I would just be so I don't even care

783
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: if you had five billion dollars. This is just it's

784
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: so wasteful. I just it just actually annoys the shit

785
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 3: out of me. All right, let's move on to Questions

786
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother Knows

787
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: Death Instagram account, you guys could head over to our

788
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: story and.

789
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: Ask us whatever you want. First.

790
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: If someone is brain dead and donating their organs, when

791
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: are they pronounced dead and the oar after the first

792
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: organ is taken out or beforehand, like before their honor walk.

793
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: So I don't know the answer to this, because I've

794
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: never pronounced anyone dead, but I do know that when

795
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: you're legally brain dead, you're considered that's illegal death, and

796
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: that's when you should be This is how it should

797
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: be done, that you should be pronounced dead when you're

798
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: legally declared brain dead. They have to if, for example,

799
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: if they're harvesting organs for a person. So sometimes a

800
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: person like let's say, for example, they get in a

801
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: motorcycle accident and they have a fatal injury, but they're

802
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: twenty five years old and their organs are perfectly healthy,

803
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: but they're just like they're brain dead. They're they're certified

804
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: to be brain dead at that time, they should off

805
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: they should pronounce the death and offer a death certificate.

806
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: But the person would still be kept alive technically alive

807
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: on machines, meaning you're going to feel their body. They're

808
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: still going to feel warm, it's still going to look

809
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: like they're breathing and their heart is still beating. But

810
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: they're dead. They're just keeping the organs perfused you would say,

811
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: or filled with oxygenated blood to keep them alive to

812
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: harvest them. But when the person is declared legally brain dead,

813
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: they're dead. They can't if they get the organs harvests,

814
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: they don't feel it. They're not going to wake up.

815
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: This is the ultimate test to say, okay, somebody is

816
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: definitely dead. So even if this is a good example,

817
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the woman we were talking about

818
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: in Georgia who had that fatal Would she have a

819
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: stroke I believe, and she was pregnant. Remember they kept

820
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: her alive for a couple months because she was pregnant. Technically,

821
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: she should have been pronounced dead on the day that

822
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: they declared her brain dead, because that would have been

823
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: the day that they would have removed her from the

824
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: from whatever assistance she was having to breathe and everything.

825
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: But they usually don't wait until that happens. But I

826
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: don't one percent know, because I know that there's definitely

827
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: rules for all sorts of things when people die and

828
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: how death certificate should be filled out and stuff, and

829
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: I also know that people never do follow the rules.

830
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 3: I've worked at different hospitals and and interned at different

831
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: home hospitals throughout my career, my education, and I've just

832
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: seen lots of different hospitals doing things different ways that

833
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: aren't really what you're supposed to do. So so I

834
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: hope that helps that. I'm not sure all right too.

835
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: Was it harder being pregnant as a teen or in

836
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: your thirties or was it the same. I think like

837
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: being pregnant as a teen socially was harder, but physically no,

838
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: it was it was like nothing I felt. I wasn't

839
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: sick at all.

840
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: I felt good, you know, I had Maria. I went

841
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: back to wearing my normal jeans like a couple of

842
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: days later, it was it was like uneventful, no medical drama.

843
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was kind of good physically,

844
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 3: but I mean the next time that I was pregnant,

845
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: what was.

846
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: I thirty three, thirty three or thirty.

847
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: Four, I was like, yeah, I was. It was probably

848
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: it was probably right before I turned thirty four, so

849
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: or no, no, Ripe, so thirty three, Yeah, because seven

850
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: you were.

851
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: You got pregnant in twenty twelve, so you would have

852
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: you were thirty two turning thirty three.

853
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean I was just which is still

854
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not old, but it's old for you know,

855
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: having a baby, and that one was that was definitely

856
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: way harder than before. For sure.

857
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: That's so crazy you were only thirty two because I'm

858
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: sitting here like thinking you're.

859
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Like forty five.

860
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: Like mentally, when I was a teenager and he told

861
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: me you were pregnant with Lillian, I was like, you

862
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: were so old, right because.

863
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: You were so young when you had me.

864
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: But now I'm going to be thirty one this year,

865
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about.

866
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like I want it's not

867
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: I remember when I had Lucia. Because I had Lucia

868
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: like a year and a half day after I had Lilian,

869
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Speaker 3: and then I was thirty four when I got pregnant,

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Speaker 3: but I was going to be thirty five when I

871
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Speaker 3: had her, so they considered me to be advanced maternal age,

872
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Speaker 3: and I got all the extra treatment. Plus I had

873
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Speaker 3: all those issues with you know, the hospital almost letting

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Speaker 3: me die and such after I had Lilian, so that

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00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: worked out well. But yeah, I mean, like when I

876
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: was pregnant with Maria, Maria, I didn't have any morning

877
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: I never really had morning sickness with any of the kids.

878
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Speaker 3: But I didn't have hypertension I had like, I didn't

879
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: get swollen, nothing. There was just like no drama. Dan't

880
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 3: gain weight. Lilian, on the other hand, was like eighty

881
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Speaker 3: pounds later. Well, I would say, even though I gained

882
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Speaker 3: eighty pounds with Lilian towards the end, I really think that,

883
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: like because I swear a week after I had her

884
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: and I weighed myself, I had lost forty five pounds already,

885
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Speaker 3: like and that wasn't just the baby, Like I had

886
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Speaker 3: so much fluid in my body, Like remember how big

887
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: my feet were. I couldn't even wear shoes. It was

888
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Speaker 3: just terrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that was like shocking too, considering hell,

890
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Speaker 1: first time around, it was pretty seamless for you, and

891
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Speaker 1: then second time you were sick, and yeah.

892
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Speaker 2: It just was.

893
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Speaker 3: It was, it was a lot different.

894
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I don't know why it's so funny

895
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Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, you just seem so much older

896
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Speaker 1: when you had her, and it's.

897
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Speaker 2: Like, I'm that age now.

898
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Speaker 1: It seems so ridiculous to have thought that. All right, three,

899
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: would you rather be lost in space or at sea?

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Speaker 2: Going back to the earlier question.

901
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: This is a good question for all the dead people

902
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: that just it's like, well, they wanted to be a

903
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: bit of space. Yeah, they got a little bit of both.

904
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: I hope. So getting back to that, actually, I hope

905
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Speaker 3: I hope those people are getting a refund.

906
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the remains were lost and they're supposed to

907
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Speaker 1: come back.

908
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think this is lawsuit worthy. The service

909
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: was not completed, so it was not only not completed,

910
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: but now they don't get it back. And then they

911
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: tried to say they hope they could be satisfied with

912
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: their burial at sea, Like I don't think so.

913
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Speaker 2: You didn't prefer they had.

914
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Speaker 3: To sign, they had to sign some kind of thing.

915
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably all right, But what's your answer is.

916
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Speaker 2: For sure? All right?

917
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Speaker 1: So I think I have different scenarios. If I'm in

918
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Speaker 1: the vessel, I'm if I'm lost in the vessel, I

919
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: would say at sea because there is a chance you

920
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: could be rescued, right, I mean, I guess you could

921
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: in space theoretically too, if.

922
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Speaker 2: You think of the bowing astronauts. But I don't know.

923
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: I'd feel more comfortable getting lost in the vessel at sea.

924
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: But if it was like my body, I think I'd

925
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: prefer space because you're gonna die immediately being in space.

926
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Speaker 1: But if you're lost in the ocean, as we see

927
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: in some cases, you could be alive for a while

928
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: just treading water, and then you have animals and the heat,

929
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Speaker 1: and then you could drown eventually, So that doesn't seem

930
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Speaker 1: fun at all.

931
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you might stumble across the little island that

932
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Speaker 3: you could live on.

933
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Speaker 1: That it just seems like such a rare chase.

934
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

935
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's funny because I'm like, ah, well, we

936
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: just selled all the way to Bermuda for a day

937
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: and a half. I didn't see one little piece of land,

938
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Speaker 3: not even a rock sticking up out of the water.

939
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: You know how ridiculous this was.

940
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I saw the new Jurassic Park yesterday and there's like

941
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: a dinosaur sized whale like figure in the water that

942
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: knocks a boat over and it just gave me such

943
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: a different level of anxiety for something that's completely like

944
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: fabricated and fictional.

945
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we didn't even see like I saw

946
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: a dolphin like once. There's like nothing there.

947
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: But I'm like, what if a whale like hits a

948
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: cruise ship.

949
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 3: It's not going to do anything a cruise ships so big?

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Speaker 2: Are you sure?

951
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 3: Yes?

952
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: It was what the iceberg did the Titanic.

953
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: That's because it was like a huge rock underground and

954
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: it hit it directly. All right.

955
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: Now that everybody thinks we're dumb.

956
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: From up there, that's it didn't just happened today, by

957
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966
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Speaker 3: have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and

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