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Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, when my brother, just like aside anecdote in

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Speaker 1: This is the type of stuff that we're looking at

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Speaker 2: They're not showing up because they're afraid. How then does

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Speaker 2: our local economy suffer and intern our community? So consider

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Speaker 2: you doing buyouts? Consider that there's so many ways to

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Speaker 2: show up in this moment, and that it is a marathon,

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Speaker 2: not a sprint. We are in this for the long haul,

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Speaker 2: and let's not police how each of us show up,

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Speaker 2: because we all have different gifts and different ways that

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Speaker 2: So I hope you take care, hydrate, try to sleep,

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Speaker 2: check in with your friends, your family or community, and

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Speaker 2: we will catch you next time. Lok A Radio is

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Speaker 2: executive produced by Viosa Fem and Mala Munjos.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Franco is our producer.

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Speaker 2: Story editing by Me diosa.

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Speaker 1: Creative direction by me Mala.

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