1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Whisper to the end TEXTI TEXTIX over time. Here we 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: go on a Tuesday, good afternoon, and welcome to One 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. We're coming to you 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: from Archer Park. Whoa look at the field or what 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: was the field inside? A new turf coming up. It's gone, 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: new turf going down. There's one end zone left. We're watching. 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: If you're watching an MSG, you see what we're talking about. 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: The turf replacement continues over a new air field. They've 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: got the pretty much a complete field now torn up. 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: It looks like maybe a little work on the sideline 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: still Chris and the end zone by the tunnel end. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: And they're gonna change the path around the field too. 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna change that thing that's coming out as well. 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: What do you call the red rubber track. It's gonna 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: be a gray rubber track in the future. Any particular 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: reason why. I don't know why. I don't know why 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: they chose gray. Oh no, I don't. I don't know. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: We can't get We're trying to get something on to 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm gonna able to do that yet 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I can't get a member of the rack grounds keeping 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: staff to get up. Yeah, it's a big it's a 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: big probably you think about it. That is the during 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the regular season especially, that is the front door to 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, right for the nation. People look at 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: that field. See what I guess the logo it's Midfield's 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: gonna be bigger, slightly bigger. The end zones are going 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to remain blue. But that is the front door. That 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: is the image that the Bills present to the rest 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: of the country pretty much the image that's on our 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: screen right now. Pretty cool. Yeah, I look forward to 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: the finished products me too, coming along. Well, the I 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: think they just started tearing it up last week. As 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: you can see if you're watching on MSG, most of 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: the field is gone. Good afternoon, everybody. We're not here 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: to talk about the field. We're here to talk about 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: the game and the players, and we're happy to do 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: it for the next three hours. John Murphy with Chris Brown, 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Bills insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com. Steven Tasker on 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: vacation for the rest of this week. Chris is here 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: to join us as co host until three. It'll be 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: with us all this week. On Friday, it'll be kind 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: of busy with the rookies coming in. I'm looking forward 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: to seeing the rookies in here on Friday, aren't you. Yes, 44 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I am. You know you see all the highlight reel 45 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: tape that you're used to prepare for the draft along 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: with some game regular game tape, down by down. You know, 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: you read all these reports on these players. But this 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: is why members of the scouting department go see them 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: in person, because there is a difference when you see 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: them live and you see them performing on the field, 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: because there are different angles that maybe you're not subjected 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: to when you're at the mercy of a camera providing footage. 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: So we want that same kind of view, you know, 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: up close and personal, and I think you learn a 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: lot about what a player is capable of, what their 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: skill set truly is, like just watching them go through 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the position drills. You know, is this guy going to 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: be a fit in the NFL as a defensive back? 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: What's his change of direction? Like, how's his plant and drive? 60 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like those kinds of things 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: that you know, you got to pay attention to if 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: you want to kind of get a sense as to 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: whether a guy is going to stick or not. You 64 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: know what I like when the rookies come in and 65 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: then when the rookies start to practice with the veterans, 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: you get a chance to kind of compare and contrast 67 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: who can keep up, who can keep up, who's big, 68 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: who's not as big. Some guys may look big in 69 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: their college video that we've been watching for the last 70 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: few months, all of sudden you put them on the 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: field with NFL size, NFL speed players and it's like, oh, 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: he's not as big, not as fast, not as talided 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: it as he may have looked in some of the 74 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: college video we looked at. Yeah, So hopefully for their sake, 75 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: if that is the case, they can make the adjustments 76 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: necessary to steal compete and yeah, you know, and the 77 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: other thing too, is as recognizable and as much of 78 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: an attraction as you know, the draft choices are going 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to be. You're gonna have eight to nine undrafted guys 80 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: here also who aren't known as well. But we'll have 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: a chance to impress too, because in this rookie camp 82 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: is when they're going to see the most reps they're 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: going to see from now until July, unless they really 84 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: flash and prove that they deserve more of an opportunity 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get the back end to the 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: depth chart once the Vets come in for OTAs, But 87 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: in rookie camp, they're gonna get a lot of opportunities 88 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: to show what they can do, just by virtue of 89 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: the fact that you don't have as many players here practicing. 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: And you know what I just mentioned about how the 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: rookies look compared to the vets. There's a correlaary to 92 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: that as well, and that is who looks like they can't? 93 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, they are the right size and the right 94 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: fit and the right speed. Who jumps out among the rookies. 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I remember years ago, who's the linebacker form in the 96 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Bill's head. This is twenty years ago Jay Foreman at 97 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: a rookie minicamp. I was watching him out here and 98 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: this how long ago was it was the old bubble 99 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: field house here, it was all boyhouse. Yeah, going back now, 100 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: that guy just jumped off the field. When you saw him, 101 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: You're like, holy cow, this guy can play. And he 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: was a pretty good pro. But he looked during the 103 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: workout the first rookie workouts like a real solid great player. 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: You can see that sometimes when you watch these guys 105 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: and see them work out in your uniform on your 106 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: field against your players, right, Yes, I think yeah. And 107 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: I always like looking at the undre rafted guys because 108 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: there is some part of their skill set that made 109 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: them worthy of getting an opportunity here as an undrafted rookie. 110 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, for a guy like Tyree Jackson, it's pretty obvious. 111 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: He's six seven, two fifty and he can run like 112 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: a deer, and he's got an arm like a cannon. 113 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: Those are skills that the Bills believe is worth are 114 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: worth working with and trying to develop. What do these 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: other kids have that are going to be coming in 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: the door getting that same kind of opportunity. And I 117 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: can tell you when we got to OTA's probably about 118 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve years ago, there were two players that 119 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: it was very evident we're going to have a shot 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: to not only hang around for a while, but even 121 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: potentially make the roster. One of them was Jabari Career, 122 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: who was an undrafted corner from Tennessee. And then a 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: couple of years before that was Jason Peters. He was 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: working at tight end and he was he looked pretty 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: darn good at tight end. He was just having trouble 126 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: mastering the assignments because he wasn't a single position player. 127 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Because Arkansas I didn't know what they wanted to do 128 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: with him. They tried him on defense, they tried him 129 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: at tight end, they tried him at offensive line. He 130 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: was all over the map. He never had a home 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: so getting up to speed at tight end became an issue. 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: And I'm convinced, and you can tell me if you disagree, Mirth, 133 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: but I'm convinced Donahoe purposely left him at tight end 134 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to hide him, to hide him because he wasn't impressive. 135 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Even when I interviewed coaches saying, hey, this guy's, you know, 136 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: pretty good athlete, blah blah blah. The coaches are like 137 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: downplaying him in interviews. Well, he's got to get a 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: handle on the playbook. He's messing up an awful lot. 139 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, they're really trying to you know, it was 140 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: very clear to me they were trying to throw a 141 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: wet blanket on anyone, trying to build up any hype 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: on Jason Peters. And I don't even think he made 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster out of camp. And then 144 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: they started they've had him on the practice squad, and 145 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: then they started moving him to tackle and then you 146 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: know what happened from there. Do you remember the his 147 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: rookie year, the open public practice, a mini camp practice 148 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: in the stadium. They're probably five thousand fans here, and 149 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: he caught a went right down to seam and caught 150 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: like a fifty yard touchdown pass from whoever the quarterback was, 151 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: may have been Ban Peled or somebody Peters did. Yeah, 152 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Yeah, I'm sure you were there 153 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Saturday after No, I know, I know I was there. 154 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: The whole place is like whoa. And they weren't hiding 155 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: him anymore from fans anyway. The fans knew, and you 156 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: thought of him as a tight end. Back then, it 157 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: was like, wow, this guy. I still remember him at 158 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: the combine. I mean, he's three hundred and five pounds 159 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: and he ran a four nine five forty. And this 160 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: is fifteen years ago. I mean, now you might get 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: a couple of guys running sub five at that way, 162 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: but fifteen years ago, it was unheard of that he 163 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: ran a sub five. And I mean people were falling 164 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: out of their chairs. Yeah, and he's still playing, still playing. 165 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Probably he's mentioned probably a Hall of Famer, right, he's 166 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: mentioned as a potential Hall of Famer. I remember I 167 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: talked to h It was this was when Rex was 168 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: in ball Baltimore and his brother Rob was he might 169 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: have been in Baltimore too, coaching. And I stopped Rob 170 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Ryan at the combine because I had heard that he 171 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: had spoken glowingly of Peters as an offensive tackle and 172 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: how difficult he was to go against. I was trying 173 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 1: to do a story when he was playing for the Bills, 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: and I went up right up to Rob Bryan and said, hey, 175 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you got a quick second to talk about Jason Peters, 176 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, and his potential. And he goes, Oh my gosh, 177 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: that kids at nightmare because he didn't like trying to 178 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: He said, you know, trying to get around that guy 179 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: when he's got feet like he goes, people that big 180 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: should not have feet like that. He goes, He's just ridiculous. 181 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: And I mean it was, you know, once he was starting, 182 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: it was like, Wow, that kid is something. Yeah, Well, 183 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: how we got into Jason Peters Because we're talking about 184 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: the impact and the impressions that some of these rookies 185 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: may make this weekend when they come here for the 186 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: rookie Minicamp. We'll talk about that with you today. Our 187 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: main topic today though not about the Bills, And we'd 188 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: take a chance every once in a while and get 189 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: off the Bills, because you know, we talk about him 190 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: every day here main topic of the day. We all 191 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I think, well, I'm not gonna speak for anybody, but 192 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are getting rave reviews for their 193 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: off season, the additions they made in free agency and 194 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: the eight players they drafted, and just the general tenor 195 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: of their offseason. So we know Bills fans feel pretty 196 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: good about this offseason. We've talked about it, Chris and 197 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: I have talked about it the you know, the general 198 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: upbeat tenor about the Buffalo Bills off season. What don't 199 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: you look around the league a little bit, think about 200 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the league a little bit, and we want to know 201 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: what other NFL team has won the offseason. You can't 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: win the offseason, right, we all know that, despite what 203 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan trying to tell us a couple of years ago, 204 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: you don't win the off season. But you can have 205 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: a good offseason. You can have a really good offseason 206 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: as good as you feel about the Bills off season, 207 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: as you may feel, what other NFL team has won 208 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: the offseason so far. That's the Twitter topic. It's it's 209 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: a poll on Twitter. We gave you four options. You 210 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: can vote for somebody else if you want to give 211 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: us a call boll lines open eight oh three oh 212 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five 213 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Or you can send it a tweet. 214 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: We will read some off the tweet seat in a moment. 215 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: Or you can vote in the Twitter pool. And it's 216 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: it's pretty on one side of Twitter pool. Which other 217 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: NFL team has won grief the off season? Eighty four 218 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: percent say the brown I agree, six percent say the Jets, 219 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: five percent say the Raiders, four percent say the Cardinals, 220 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: and we may be missing somebody. Me and Chris and 221 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris talked about it a lot this morning. 222 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: I anticipated the Browns would probably win it. But eighty 223 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: four percent of you think the Browns have won the offseason. 224 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: They've garnered a lot of the headlines because of the 225 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: caliber of players that they have acquired. I totally get that, 226 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: And even a casual fan, if you ask them, would 227 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: probably say the Browns just because they've seen them in 228 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: the headlines so much this offseason. So I'm assuming that's 229 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: part of the reason why it is so lopsided. But 230 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: I think before the Cardinals drafted Kyler Murray, they did 231 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things to help their roster, and we 232 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: can get into that as the show goes on. The 233 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Jets had some headline moves. I mean Levion Bell sixty 234 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: what was it, eighty five million dollars for CJ. Mosley. 235 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: I mean, they made some headline grabbing signings too. And 236 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: then you know the Raiders. You know, they got a 237 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: lot of attention in the draft because they had the 238 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: three first round selections, but they made some moves also 239 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: before they and of headline caliber as well national headline caliber, 240 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: most notably Antonio Brown. So to see to see all 241 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: these other teams in the single digits, wow, ridiculous. And look, 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: I know I appreciate what the Browns have done. They 243 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: also fired a coach and hired a first time head coach. 244 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Is that impressive? I mean I would worry about that 245 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: if I were a Browns fan, like is Freddie Kitchens 246 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: does he have what it takes to lead this impressive 247 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: collection to talent. I'll be honest, I have Browns fatigued 248 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: this offseason Chris, I really do. I'm sick of reading 249 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: and hearing about the Browns and live shots from ESPN 250 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: and NFL Network at the Browns headquarters, and I have 251 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: a choice. It's going to contain. I know it will continue, 252 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: but I don't think they've earned that sort of coverage. 253 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: I don't think they've earned that sort of recognition. Yes, 254 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham a huge signing. They have some other good signings. 255 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: They also have a first year head coach, and they 256 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: also have a history, a tradition. It would seem of underachieving. 257 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: Is that going to change like a flip a switch 258 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: and they're ready to go? I don't know. I don't 259 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: know about that. I would worry about that. Yeah, because 260 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: you have a new defensive coordinator to playing a new 261 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: defensive scheme. Yep. So there's a lot of stuff that 262 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: has to happen here in terms of getting on the uptake. 263 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, you know, is a is a good acquisition 264 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: they made obviously a really good acquisition, maybe underrated, probably 265 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: overshadowed by Odell Beckham Junior. I would think they got 266 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Eric Murray the safety from Kansas City and the trade 267 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: for Emmanuel Ogba Beckham and Vernon are the other two 268 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: trades which you mentioned. You know, I like the tight 269 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: end signing that they made in Demetrius Harris who comes 270 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: over from Kansas City. He was kind of playing second 271 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: fiddle to Travis Kelsey, but I think has athletic ability 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: and be a nice compliment and Joku, if you want 273 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: to go two tight ends in that offense, Sheldon Richardson, 274 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: you're taking a chance on Sheldon Richardson because he can 275 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: be a little bit cantankerous, not always known as a 276 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: true team guy. And let's not forget this. While you 277 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: do have somebody in the locker room to kind of 278 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: play kate Odell Beckham Junior a little bit in the 279 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: form of his college teammate who also plays wide receiver. 280 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: And who's there already, j Yeah, Jarvis Landry. We cannot 281 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: dismiss the fact that Odell Beckham Junior is a little 282 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: bit of a diva. I mean, I mean, so, you know, 283 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: if there are some hiccups here in a given game, 284 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: and because of all those weapons, you know, Beckham's only 285 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: getting three or four targets instead of his usual eight 286 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: or nine, which was the case in New York. There's 287 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a squeaky wheel there, and you know how 288 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: that can sometimes fracture things and compromise effectives on the 289 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: field from week to week. So there are a lot 290 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: of egos to manage now suddenly in Cleveland, and I 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: don't know that there are enough balls to go around 292 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: unless you're throwing at sixty times a game. And maybe 293 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: they'll do that, who knows, but they may have to 294 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: do that if they want to keep everybody there happy, 295 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: because you've got an emerging tight ending. In Joku, Landry's 296 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: used to catch in a hundred balls a season and 297 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Odell Beckhams used to catch in eighty ninety balls a season. 298 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: And we haven't even gotten to the rest of the 299 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: receiving corps, you know, whether it's Callaway or who or 300 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: Demitrius Harris, who I mentioned, or in Joku. So it's 301 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: going to be a balancing act on them. I get 302 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: it why people would vote that the Browns won the offseason. 303 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: There are other strong candidates, including the Bills. We left 304 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: them out of today's poll, but you can weigh in 305 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: eight O three five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo 306 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the Raiders. 307 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: I think you've had a strong offseason and not just 308 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, the addition of Antonio Brown Chris A strong draft, right, 309 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean a real strong draft for the Oakland Raiders. 310 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Second year under John Gruden, I think will make a difference. 311 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: They get a little bounce back year from Derek Carr, 312 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: and I think the Raiders are going to be in 313 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. The only one for last year, but 314 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: they should bounce back. I think in year two, things 315 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: settling in and I might cast my vote for the 316 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Raiders as a team that's had the best offseason. Like 317 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: what the Raiders have done. I like the Trent Brown signing, 318 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: although I think they overpaid. Trent Brown is an upgrade 319 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: for them, so that's probably the most important thing, at 320 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: least on paper when you're putting a depth chart together. 321 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joiner is a good safety, certainly better than they had. 322 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: And then Tyrell Williams to supplement the acquisition of Antonio Brown. 323 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, those are two top end receiving talents that 324 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: are really going to help the receiving corps and give 325 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,479 Speaker 1: Derek Carr and John Gruden for that matter, more options, 326 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: you know. And then on the defensive, side. You're adding 327 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: an interesting attitude guy in Vont's perfect. But they also 328 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: signed Brandon Mark from Denver who's been good for a 329 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: long time up there on a super Bowl caliber defense. 330 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: So I liked some of the players that they have 331 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: added to augment their performance level on both sides of 332 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the ball. I still think they need more on defense, 333 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: and they tried to address that in the draft. They 334 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: got the safety DeAndre Baker in the first round. I 335 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: think that's a good pick to pair with a veteran 336 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: like LaMarcus Joiner. They did well in the draft. You know, 337 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Mayock did a good job in his first draft. A 338 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: couple of options for if you want to vote in 339 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: the Twitter poll, we'd rather hear your voice on the 340 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: phone line. You got phone lines wide open, eighth fifty 341 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifties. 342 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: We look aside from the Bills, look at the rest 343 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: of the NFL, and ask you the question who won 344 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: the offseason in the NFL? With the buckle the offseason, 345 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: we're complete. You can also send it a tweet. We 346 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: may read it on the tweet sheet. A tweet from 347 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: Brian to get its started. Brian said I mean included 348 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Only four percent of respondents voted the Cardinals 349 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: as the team that won the offseason. Brian tweets and sorry, guys, 350 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: but you can't all the Cardinals an offseason winner. If 351 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: for the second year in a row, they drafted a 352 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: quarterback high in the first round and traded their previous 353 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: first round quarterback for two buttons belly button lint and 354 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: a free Blockbuster video rental, would they get a second 355 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: round pick. What's the kid's last name? Heizer? Yeah. I 356 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: think they've had a good offseason. I like what they've done. 357 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: I do too. I like they're drafted. I like what 358 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: they did in free agency, changed out the coaching staff. 359 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: I think they've had a decent offseason. They signed almost 360 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: as many players as the Bills did in free agency. Now, granted, 361 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: they let a few people go. You know, Marcus Golden 362 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: goes to the Giants. JJ Nelson signs with Oakland, but 363 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about a number four wide receiver 364 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: and one of their pass rushers, Benson Mayoor goes to 365 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: Oakland as well. But they signed Robert Alford to a 366 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: three year deal, a veteran corner who can start for 367 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: you right away opposite Patrick Peterson. Brooks read, okay, a 368 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: one year deal, but an effort guy that can make plays. 369 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: But they really worked to ffy their offensive line. Maybe 370 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: not to the degree that the Bills did, but they 371 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: knew their line was a problem and they addressed it. 372 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: They got Juwan James, the right tackle from Miami, signed 373 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: him to a four year deal, and then they get 374 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: Max Garcia from Denver, the center and the guard Jr. 375 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Sweezy from Seattle. Veteran players who know what they're doing. 376 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: They knew they needed a veteran presence up front and 377 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: they got that in spades in those three guys who 378 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: are all projected to probably start. And then you add 379 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: in on the defensive side Terrell Suggs, another veteran player 380 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: who can still get it done even at his age. 381 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: It's a one year deal. You bring him in, you 382 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: have him try to establish some kind of way of 383 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: doing things the right way. And then Jordan Hicks was 384 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: their big money guy. You know, they signed him to 385 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: a four year, thirty six million dollar deal away from Philadelphia. 386 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: And you drop that guy in the midlliar defense and 387 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you go and then they get role players, you know, 388 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: like from LA the Chargers. They get Darius phill On, 389 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: who I think is an underrated player quite frankly at 390 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle because position. He's gonna make plays for 391 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: that defense up front, and better established their run front 392 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: because they did have trouble stop in the run last year. 393 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of things white the former 394 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: first round, right, So there are guys that they added 395 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: before they even got to the draft. And yes, I mean, 396 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I know the headline grabber is Kyler Murray, but you 397 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: look at what the what the Cardinals did on Day 398 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: two and three. They did a nice job. I mean, 399 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: they get Andy Isabella, a slot guy, you know, who's 400 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: probably an air apparent to Larry FitzGeralds who's worked out 401 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: of the slot for the better part of the last 402 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: ten years. They get one of the best corners in 403 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: the draft, Byron Murphy, who may not even have to 404 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: step on the field as a rookie because of who 405 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: they've added in free agency and having Patrick Petersson on 406 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: the other side, but maybe he's a slot option for them. 407 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: And then they get Kim Butler in the fourth round 408 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: as a wide receiving option. And they even had the 409 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Fresno State kid late Keishawan Johnson not related to the 410 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: other Keyshan, who's kind of a possession receiver who can 411 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: help them there. And then the safety Deontay Thompson from Alabama, 412 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: whose value fell because he really didn't have a consistent 413 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: last year in college, but certainly has abilities. So I 414 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: like some of what they did on Day two and 415 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: Day three in the draft as well. Let's you think 416 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: give us a call eight oh three five fifty or 417 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 418 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: Speaking of the Cardinals, we're gonna talk about them and 419 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: depth with Bob McManaman, who covers the Cardinals. He's senior 420 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: sportswriter for the Arizona Republic. Get his thoughts on Arizona's 421 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: off season so far, and of course the draft of 422 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback Kyler Murray that's coming up at one o'clock 423 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: twelve thirty a couple of minutes away. We're gonna talk 424 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: with Daryl Johnson, Bill's seventh round pick, defensive end from 425 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina, A and T. That's what the lineup is 426 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: for the show today. And I'll say this tumor yeah, 427 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: I mean, if if our listeners and callers want to 428 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: argue on behalf of the Bills and that they should 429 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: be part of this conversation. Feel free to do that. 430 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear the argument. Sure, you know, in 431 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: comparison to some of these teams that have been rated 432 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: a little bit higher than Buffalo based on the off 433 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: seasons that they've been able to put together for their 434 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: respective rosters. Yeah, we just I mean, if the Bills 435 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: are on our Twitter phole sheet, everybody would vote for them, 436 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: which is why we avoided that. But if you want 437 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: to make a case for them, we're all ears. Instead, 438 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: everybody's voting for the Cleveland Brown Okay, I'm more from 439 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from Doug. He tweets in Rex. Ryan 440 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: would be proud of this Twitter question. Rex was sort 441 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: of the inspiration for the Twitter question, the question which 442 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: NFL team won the offseason, he says. Dug says, I 443 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: have to go with the Browns from a fans perspective. 444 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: They're adding pieces that are franchise names and known through 445 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. From the team they have done everything to 446 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: Cass Baker with supreme talent. They have a lot of upside, 447 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: no question, no question they have upside, but it's unproven upside. 448 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: I think you know, and there's a mix. You talked 449 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: about it. There's a mix that has to be done 450 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: down there with all that talent, all that all those egos, 451 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: and from a first year head coach, he has to 452 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: make sure that he can put that group together. I 453 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: think that's a tall order, right, And we've seen this 454 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: in the league before, Murph. I mean, what's a team 455 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: over the years that has been known to sign big name, 456 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: big ticket free agents in multiples in one offseason and 457 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: then it doesn't pan out. Washington, Washington probably, you know, 458 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: the Turn from Y two K up until about twenty 459 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: ten was notorious for spending gigantic money on big name players, 460 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: didn't really vet them out in terms of attitude. Are 461 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: they a team guy? Are you going to get what 462 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: you need out of them in week sixteen as much 463 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: as you do in Week two and three? And you're 464 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: paying one hundred and twelve million dollars for a guy 465 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: like Albert Haynesworth and he ends up being a dud 466 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: for you because he doesn't feel like playing this week 467 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: or he wants to take off this series. And so 468 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: as attractive as it might be to get a guy 469 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: that has production in the league and has been a 470 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. You also do yourself a disservice if 471 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you don't examine and vet the character the guy you're 472 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: bringing in the room, because locker room chemistry can be 473 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: a very very delicate thing. And if somebody feels they're 474 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: getting short change because they're not a big enough part 475 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: of the offense, or if this guy is expecting to 476 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: play on every third down so we can rack up 477 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: his sack totals and get all his bonuses and he's not, 478 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: how is he going to react? And if you don't 479 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: have an answer, if you don't know, you're taking a risk. 480 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: And the Bills is an organization we know do not 481 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: do that. And if there is a problem, that guy's 482 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: probably not coming through the door and he's not being signed. 483 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say the same thing 484 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: about some of these other franchises. It's a good question. 485 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: I think which NFL team one day offseason? What do 486 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: you think? Give us a call or sending a tweet? 487 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: Voting our Twitter pall eighth three five fifty the number 488 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: to call with your comments questions outside Buffalo tollfree and 489 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We're 490 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna talk in a minute with Darryl Johnson, the Bills 491 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick. A little bit of news out 492 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: of the Bills today, another day of offseason conditioning. Was 493 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: kind of raining hard. When I rolled in here this morning, Chris, 494 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: and there they were outside in the rain. They were 495 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: out an offseason conditioning. I was impressed by that. In 496 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: the scouting department, a couple of changes today, a promotion 497 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: and a couple of new hires. The Bills promoted senior 498 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: college scout Dennis Hicky named him senior national scout. He's 499 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: been with the Bills for a couple of years now, 500 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: three years. Former general manager of the Miami Dolphins. A 501 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: scouting veteran of fifteen years, Dennis Hikey is now the 502 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Bills senior National scout. And then a couple of hires. 503 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: The Bills hired A. J. High Smith as an area 504 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: scout and Mike Zabo as an area scout. Hi Smiths 505 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: has spent the last five years in the personnel department 506 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: of the San Francisco forty nine ers last year is 507 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: a pro personnel scout. He is the son of former 508 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: NFL running back Alonzo high Smith, who works with the 509 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: Browns and football operations, and Mike Zabo is an area 510 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: scout now for the Buffalo Bills. Nineteen year scouting veteran, 511 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: the last seventeen of those with the Carolina Panthers, most 512 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: recently as regional director of college scouting. His father coach 513 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: here and the Mike Malarkey's His father was Steve Sabo, 514 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: who was the defensive backs coach under Mike Mlarkey for 515 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: a couple of years back about fourteen years ago. Thoughts 516 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: on those moves anything, I think think he's done a 517 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: good job since he's been here. Um, I think a 518 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: very qualified veteran personnel man. You look at what Brandon 519 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: being assembled in terms of scouting talent from the outset, 520 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: when he had Brian Gain here along with Joe Shane, Um, 521 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, and then you've gotten the league board on 522 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: the pro side and Lake Dawson and Dennis Hickey. I mean, 523 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: you're talking guys that have been among the higher ups 524 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: in other league positions with other clubs. And to assemble 525 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: that staff, I mean, it's it's a strong staff, it 526 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: really is. And you know, you can't forget Terrence Gray either, 527 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the college scouting ranks. So you've got 528 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: a really good group here, and I'm my biggest concern 529 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: is when this team does experience success, they're gonna inevitably 530 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: lose some of these Thinking about that the other day, 531 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: they in our morning meeting staff meeting said we got 532 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: some changes coming in person, and I thought, oh, no, what, 533 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose somebody right now. I don't think we're 534 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: there yet. But if you know, if this team is 535 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to earn a playoff berth next year, maybe 536 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: gets a playoff victory, or even the year after that, 537 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: you know they're back and they're around nine ten eleven wins. Yeah, 538 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: the people are going to take a very close look 539 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: at what the Bills did to turn this roster completely 540 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: around in the span of three or four years time, 541 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: And it does take time. I think we should have 542 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: an appreciation for that. When you bring in new scouts 543 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: and institute a new scouting philosophy, it's got to take time, 544 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: right you're kind of, yeah, pycling through the players you 545 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: have and making sure you're getting the players you want 546 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: in the future, and instituting new procedures, new practices. I 547 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: think it's a couple of years to do that, and 548 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: in much the same way that Sean McDermott is always 549 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: trying to pull young players up into the leadership pipeline, 550 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's kind of doing the same thing on the 551 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: personnel side. He's trying to create an influx of young 552 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: scouts that look like they have a promising future in 553 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: this business, so that when that exodus may happen, where 554 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: you may lose a guy like Joe Shane who gets 555 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: a GM job somewhere else, you know, or a Terrence 556 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: Gray or you know, am a league boy gets a 557 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: job somewhere else, You've got guys coming up through the 558 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: system that have been here four or five, six, seven 559 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: years who are ready to ascend into those roles and 560 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: make it make it as seamless a transition as possible, 561 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: so you can still be as successful in assembling roster 562 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: pieces as you have been over the last few years. 563 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: It's the process. It's the underground process, right, Yeah, you 564 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: went there. I did go there because this is evidence 565 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: of it. A couple of new scouts for the Bills 566 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: and a promotion for Dennis Hikey. All right, we're gonna 567 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: talk about speaking of scouts. We're gonna talk about some 568 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: of their work. We're gonna talk with seventh round draft 569 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: back Darryl Johnson for North Carolina A and T when 570 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: we return, Just getting going. Want to hear from you 571 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: about who won the offseason aside from the Bills. We 572 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: know you love the Bills, but who else in the 573 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: NFL won the offseason this offseason? Give us a call. 574 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: We're back with more. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 575 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. One Doll's Live from One 576 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: Bill's Driver. Just getting going here on a Tuesday afternoon 577 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: in Uncher Park, John Murphy with Chris Brown. He's in 578 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker. It was about a week and a 579 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: half ago in the Bills wrapped up the twenty nineteen draft. 580 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: They had two picks in the seventh round, one of 581 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: them the two to twenty fifth selection overall. They went 582 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: to North Carolina A and T and chose defensive end 583 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson. He is on the line with us live 584 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: right now. Hello Darryl John Murphy and Chris Brown up 585 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Thank you for coming on with us today. 586 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Are doing well? Good? Where are 587 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: you in Savannah, Georgia? At your hometown. Right, yes, sir, 588 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Savannah down here in Savannah, Jordan. And you probably got 589 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: a beautiful spring day down there in Savannah. I would think, right, 590 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, it's nice and hot and beautiful out here. 591 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: You have a sweater to wear when you come to 592 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo later this weekend. Yeah, I'm all right, but I 593 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: have a couple of them. I'm all right. Hey, tell 594 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: us about the draft. Dam it was Saturday, last day 595 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: the draft, third day the draft. It was somewhat later 596 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: in the afternoon when you finally got the call. What 597 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: was that weekend and especially that day like for you, 598 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Daryl back then on draft weekend. Man, it's a dream 599 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: come true when your man gets called. You know, I'm 600 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: just excited and you know, happy to be a Buffalo Bill. 601 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: My family was going crazy, you know, just is see 602 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: my smile on Mama Dad's space. Man, that's that's It's 603 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: an amazing film. So you know, you you had to 604 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: play at a lower level of football, and obviously you've 605 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: got a shine at that level to attract the eyeballs 606 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: of NFL scouts. And you did that. I mean, Defensive 607 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Player of the Year ten and a half sacks last year. Obviously, 608 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: you had production before that, but you know, you really 609 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: kind of showed out in twenty eighteen. What were your 610 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: what were your goals going into the twenty eighteen season, 611 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: because did you have I mean because you still had 612 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: a year of eligibility left. So I'm just kind of 613 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: curious what you were thinking at the start of twenty eighteen. Uh. Well, 614 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, I set my goals high, fade over um, 615 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: stayed off, summer, work my butt off, and you know, 616 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: I just set my goals high pretty much. You know, 617 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: I reached all my goals. And you know, when you 618 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: when you speak everything until existence, it seems to happen. 619 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: I work my butt off, you know, ended up ended 620 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: up doing doing the things that I said. So, Jared, 621 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: what is the strongest part of your game yet? What 622 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: ten and a half sacks last season? Is that what 623 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: you do best? Get after quarterbacks? Yes, sir, I'd love 624 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: to get out the quarterback. That's what I do. M 625 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just my vision for the game, my 626 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: i Q. I know how to play football, make football plays, 627 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just ready to you know, help a team, 628 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: help the Bills. Be'st way. I know how you had 629 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: to go through a process of adding way to your frame, 630 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, once you started your pre draft training, because 631 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: I think you were listed about two thirty two as 632 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: far as you're playing weight was in college, and I 633 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: think even you knew that you had to be a 634 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: little bit bigger and stronger than that coming to this level. 635 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: So maybe just walk me through the pre draft training 636 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: process and what you did to add twenty pounds to 637 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: your frame, because I know by the time you got 638 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: to the combine you were two fifty three. Yes, sir, well, 639 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: you know I trained at Chipsmith's Performance Systems down here 640 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: were down there in Atlanta, Georgia, and he basically said 641 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: it all out on the line, like, gave me a plan, 642 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: and he said, he followed this plan, you would be 643 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: two fifty. So I mean just eating the right things, 644 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: eating the right things, and you know, coteen and just 645 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: working out the right play and you know it eventually, man, 646 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: I was growing up, like I started out at like 647 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: two thirty and then eventually man, actually two forty, like 648 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later. Then I'm like, okay, then 649 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: here two fifty and I'm like, wow, it's crazy. You know, 650 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: once you you know, take care of your body and 651 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: do the right things with your body. It's such an 652 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: amazing and then the adjustment there. The adjustment there, Darryl, 653 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: after you reach that weight is now how it feels 654 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: on you, how you carry it, and how you can 655 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: play with it. So as you're going through those drills 656 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the three cone or whether it's 657 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: true pass rush drills to get ready for your pro day. 658 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: How did it feel on you now that you had 659 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: those twenty extra pounds, Well, it feels great. You know, 660 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I feel explosive. You know, back when I was two 661 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: thirty hours light, but I feel a lot more explosive 662 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, I've gotten a lot stronger. 663 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: So I believe that's going to help me at the 664 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: next level. When I was playing at two thirty, I 665 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: couldn't do a lot of things. I was more so, 666 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, light, and you know it really didn't have 667 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: too much explosions. But now I feel like I'm way 668 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: more explosive. And you know, with this good two fifty 669 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: on me, I just feel real good. And with my frame, 670 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I believe I can put on more weight. That's just 671 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: my frame, right, You're long, Yeah, Round the line with 672 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson, the Bill's seventh round draft pick out of 673 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina, A and T. I want to ask you 674 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: about the Combine and experienced Daryl. You went there and 675 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: you couldn't do a whole lot physically right because of 676 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: what a hamstring pole or a tweak in your hamstring? 677 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I tweaked my 678 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: hamstring on the bench press. And I don't know how 679 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: that happened. That never happened to me, but you know, 680 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: I just look at it. It is. Everything happened for 681 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: a reason. It just wasn't meant for me to perform there, 682 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: and I took advantage of it and just you know, 683 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: got tried to get it as healthy as I can. 684 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: UM pro day. I wasn't all the way healthy, but 685 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: I went out there and competed in and did what 686 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I had to do, UM to put up some solid 687 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: numbers for me. You can still do the meetings in 688 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: indeed the Combine. Did you meet with the Bills there 689 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: or was your first contact at your pro day? UM? 690 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: I probably I met with him informally, UM, not formally, 691 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: but you know I was caught the coach um white 692 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: cotton yep um informally, um, and you know we had 693 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: a good conversation. You know, we we learned you, we 694 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: learned about each other and you know, just kind of 695 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: build a little relationship. And then he also was at 696 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: my pro day, and you know, I guess he, you know, 697 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: just seeing something to me in me. You know, you know, 698 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that works hard, and I just believe 699 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: my best football is ahead of me. Was he the 700 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: one who called you on draft day then and told 701 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: you that the Bills had selected you? Yes, sir, he 702 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: was the first guy talked to. And then I you know, 703 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: then sworn the phone around and you know I talked 704 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: to everybody else, yes, sir. So go ahead, Well I 705 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. I guess one of the second 706 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: or third phone calls you got was from a guy 707 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: from your school currently in the NFL, Terik Cohen, right, 708 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: the Bears running back. Tell me about that? Oh yeah, man, 709 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: he was. He was excited and said he was shot 710 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: him and he said that, uh, you know, the job 711 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: isn't done. Um, that I had to continue to work 712 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: because basically he's saying that I was an underdog. I'm 713 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: an underdog coming into it because I from you know, 714 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: came from a smaller school, so he was like, well, 715 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta work. And you know, I kind 716 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: of took that in because I mean I always worked, 717 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, so that wasn't a big thing to me. 718 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about my work at chick and 719 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: you know things like that. But he, you know, he's excited. 720 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: He said, you always know we gotta do we gotta 721 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: turn up, you know. So that's what we're playing on doing. 722 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: How much how much did you know he's a former 723 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: teammate if yours. How much did he kind of help 724 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: you through the pre draft process having been through it himself. 725 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've talked to him about it. We we've 726 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: talked on the phone a couple of times, even in person. 727 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: Every time I seen him, you know, he kind of 728 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: told me about everything, how everything goes. So I was 729 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: pretty much, you know, kind of familiar, and I kind 730 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: of knew it was coming, so you know, I I 731 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: was prepared prepared because um talking to him and bring 732 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: the Fox also, so they both kind of you know, 733 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: gave information to me and you know, helped me be 734 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: prepared for it. On the line with Bill sud Draft 735 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: at Darryl Johnson, seventh rounder out of North Carolina and 736 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: d how much, um, just coming from North Carolina, A 737 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: and T smaller school, coming from me at school, coming 738 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: from a you know, HBCU historically Black College University. How 739 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: much is that motivate you? Did? Figure you got to 740 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: prove yourself or have something to prove, Daryl, what do 741 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: you think of that? Man? It motivates me a lot. Um. 742 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, that's why I came him out of the 743 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: room to the people of the season. And I also 744 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not doing it just for me. I'm 745 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: doing it for all small schools, all black college football. 746 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm setting a tone and I want 747 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: it to be, you know, to go good. So, um, 748 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: if I got a tip of my shoulder coming in 749 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: and being the underdog and I'm hoping to be an 750 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: impact player that to help an organization, to help the 751 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: deals win. So that's what that's what I want to do. 752 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've taken time to kind of take a 753 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: look at the roster to see who else might be 754 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: at the defensive end position. And you know, I read 755 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: it something about you where You're saying I'm just looking 756 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: to get up under a veteran player and hopefully learn 757 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: some of the ropes. So when you see names like 758 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes or Trent Murphy or Shaq Lawson, you're kind 759 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: of saying, well, it's time for me to be a 760 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: sponge and try to soak up everything I can. Yes, sir, 761 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: I've actually been um, you know, I got my playbook 762 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: in the middle like last week, and you know, watching 763 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: those guys, I can see that I can learn a lot. 764 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: I still have a lot to learn. So when I 765 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: get in, man, I'm just gonna, um, like you said, 766 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: just soak everything again and you know, be those guys 767 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: best friends the you know, just be underneath him all 768 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: the time and just learn. Man. That's that's the most 769 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: important to me, just to London. You know. Once you know, 770 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna you're gonna be able to play fast. 771 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: So that's my thing. Just learning it and getting in, 772 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: learning the playbook and you know, and everything else. Should 773 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: take care of yourself. Girl. He uh, your nickname is Bam. 774 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: What's that all about? Yes, sir, Yeah, what's that all 775 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: My dad gave me that name when I was younger 776 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: from Bad Bad Off the Flinch, so uh, you know 777 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: he was a clumsy kid. But I'm not clumsy down 778 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: but that was my name back in the day, so 779 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, it just kind of stuck with me. And 780 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, just that's that's just I love that name 781 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: man and man. And I also saw where you are 782 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: going to graduate right this spring from A and T. 783 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: Right you get a degree in what sports science? Yes, sir, 784 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: I graduate Saturday. I'll be in Buffalo, but I graduate saturday. Oh, 785 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: you won't be able to walk on stage you get 786 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: your diploma, You'll be up here. Huh. Yes, I'll be 787 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: up here, you know, up there taking care of business. 788 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: But you know it's it's it's it's it's crazy, man, 789 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, graduate and get a chance to play 790 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's I know. My parents got to 791 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: be excited and happy for me. So you know this, 792 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: this this demand. Know, you graduating college. That's a great feeling. Man. Yeah, 793 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: good for you. Congratulations on that, Hey, Aryl, thanks, we'll 794 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: see up here this weekend. Thank you for coming on 795 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: the show with us here today. And again, congratulations on 796 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: graduation this weekend, Yes, sir, thank you. Okay, Arrol Johnson, 797 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: there is seventh round pick North Carolina and tuh. He 798 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: will skip his graduation. He will graduate on Saturday for 799 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: me and t but skip it to be up here 800 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: for rookie minicamp. There's something about that I like, you 801 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, it's goal was to 802 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: get in the NFL. He's do in that and he's 803 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: getting his degree. That's cool. And it's an exercise science. 804 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, all he's got to do is walk into 805 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: the training room or go upstairs. But the sports science department, 806 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: he can He could kind of be a double major 807 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: NFL player if he wants to be, but specialized majoring 808 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: in football with a minor and exercise science. He could 809 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: spend his after hours here if he wanted to. We 810 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: thank Daryl will joining us. The excitement, the sort of 811 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: approach that he has. You can hear it in his voice, 812 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: can't And I find it invigorating right a little bit. 813 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, It's like, yay, you like that youthful energy. 814 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: I do. We need a lot of that around here. 815 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: Coach Coach is big on that too. He likes he 816 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: likes guys that bring energy to the room, energy to 817 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: the field. And it sounds like this is going to 818 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: be a kid who puts his head down and it's 819 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: going one hundred miles an hour every play. Yeah, good 820 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: for him. Darrol Johnson seventh round pick, North Carolina and 821 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: he gonna be up here this weekend for the Rickey Minicamp. 822 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: We're talking about the NFL a lot today. In our 823 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: Twitter poll, we'd love to hear from you. We got 824 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: phones wide open if you want to weigh in on 825 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: our question of the day. We know Bills fans love 826 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: their team. You know you like the off season. We 827 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: think you do what other NFL team has won it's offseason. 828 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: We offer a couple of choices on Twitter, the Browns 829 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: and Cardinals, the Jets, the Raiders. You can vote on Twitter, 830 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: you can send in a tweet for the tweet sheet. 831 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: You'd love to hear your voice on the air eight 832 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty toll free one eight eight 833 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty on the tweet sheet 834 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: or I mean on the Twitter poll. Rather, eighty three 835 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: percent of you think the Browns have won the off 836 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: season by one eighty three percent, eight percent say the Jets, 837 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: five percent say the Cardinals, five percent say the Raiders. 838 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: Let's hear from it. We're back with Morner moment John 839 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: Murphy with Chris Brown, Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com. 840 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One 841 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back everybody, 842 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: John Murphy with Chris Brown. Chris is in poor Steve Tasker, 843 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: and we're talking about the NFL today and the Bills 844 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: as usual. You're welcome to join us. We have phone 845 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: lines wide open. I don't know if you think anybody 846 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: else has done well this off season. We know Bills 847 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: fans feel pretty good about the Bills, but what other 848 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: NFL teams won the offseason? Offered your four choices on 849 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: the Twitter poll, but you can give us anybody you want. 850 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: We offered Brown's Jets, Raiders, Cardinals. We're going to talk 851 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals with Bob McManaman coming up after the 852 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: top of the hour. They've had an interesting, to say 853 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: the least, offseason. This could be interesting. Chris Tonight at 854 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: midnight a kind of a new deadline that may may 855 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: spur some free agent signings around the NFL. It's the 856 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: passing of the league wide deadline for signing players who 857 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: no longer count in the NFL's calculation for determining compensatory 858 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: draft picks. In other words, if you signed after midnight 859 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: tonight a free agent, a team does not potentially lose 860 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: a draft pick in next year's draft, So that would 861 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: be an incentive I think for teams to maybe jump 862 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: in for it doesn't count towards your because what they 863 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: the number one factor in being awarded compensatory picks is 864 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: having a net loss a free agent. So obviously if 865 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: you add one of these guys, that affects your net loss, 866 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: especially if you're at like a minus one or a 867 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: minus two. You sign one of these guys, now you 868 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: jeopardize your chance of getting a competive story. Maybe you 869 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: don't get one. And there are a couple of interesting 870 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: players out there, and Domal Consue still out there who 871 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: may you would think would generate some interest, and one 872 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: that's been talking about here in Buffalo, ziggy Ansa who 873 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: visited the Bills, didn't sign, visited a couple of other 874 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: teams visited Seattle, I believe just last week, coming off 875 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: that shoulder injury. The Bills have talked about it, confirmed 876 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: that they're interested, but didn't do anything about it yet. 877 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: Does the deadline passing at midnight tonight spurred the Bills 878 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: into being aggressive with Ziggy ansa DUI. I don't think 879 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it has any impact on the Bills, 880 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: because there's no way the Bills are getting a compensatory 881 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: pick nest next year based on all the guys they signed. 882 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: They signed upwards of eighteen players, and I think they 883 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: only lost a half a dozen maybe a little bit 884 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: more that would even come close to factoring into this formula. 885 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: Here's how it could impact the Bills. Somebody else gets 886 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: aggressive because they do have something that's sake with the 887 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: compensatory draft picks, and maybe they make him an offer, 888 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: and the Bill say, oh, he's got an offer, it's 889 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: time for us to go to work here, right, Not 890 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: that they would affect the Bills draft picks, but yeah, 891 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: in fact, the interest in on set that maybe you know, 892 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: moves the Bills towards you know signing him or I 893 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 1: would tend to think that the Bills are not going 894 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: to be party to a bidding war for a player 895 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: who's had two shoulder surgeries in his career, including this offseason, 896 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: and who knows when he's going to be ready. We 897 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: don't know yet. But there's a reason he's not signed 898 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: right now, and I think it's because he's not ready 899 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: to suit up just yet. I think people there's probably 900 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: some teams and the Bills might be in this mix 901 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: that don't want to see him or don't want to 902 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: sign him. I should say, until they know he's ready 903 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: to play and cleared medically. I think that was kind 904 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: of the whole impetus of his visit here in March. 905 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: It was an exploratory visit where they wanted to see 906 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: just where he was at, wanted to get their doctor's 907 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: eyeballs and hands on him to assess how his offseason 908 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: procedure on that shoulder went, and make their own prognosis 909 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: as to when they think he could be ready, presuming 910 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: he does all the right things in the off season 911 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,720 Speaker 1: to rehabilitate that surgical procedure. So you roll all that together, 912 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: and I think those things have a greater factor on 913 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: whether the Bills, you know, would would sign him and 914 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: how much they'd be willing to pay to do so. 915 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: I think they'd like to have him on the roster. 916 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: I think they're still in the mix in terms of 917 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 1: having interest, but you know, you've You've got to see 918 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: how the timeline shapes up, and then if there are 919 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: other teams interested, how much money are you willing to 920 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: spend a first round pick in twenty thirteen, forty eight 921 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: career sacks Ian Rappaport says he had a checkup on 922 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: his shoulder recently, going to be ready about earlier midway 923 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: through training camp. That's the kind of the updated timetable unsaga, 924 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: Which brings me to this question for you, Chris Brown, 925 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: how badly do you think the Buffalo Bills need Ziggy Onsa, 926 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: if at all. I don't think it would be a 927 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: catastrophe if they didn't add him, because I think they 928 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: can do well with what they have. You're always looking 929 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: to add an upgrade pass rushing talent. And there's no 930 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: question that this guy has a body of work that 931 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: should not be sneezed at. It should be respected. But again, 932 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: at twenty nine years of age, is he an old 933 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine? Because of the injuries that he's had, Let's 934 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: not forget this guy hasn't only had two shoulder surgeries, 935 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: He's had an ankle injury that kept him out for 936 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: most of a year. And we're talking within the last 937 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: three years. So you have to honestly ask you ask 938 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: the question and make this assessment, obviously with the help 939 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: from your medical personnel, and determine is this guy starting 940 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: to break down physically based on this injury history that 941 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: we see in front of us, or does he still 942 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: have gas left in the tank and can give us 943 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: maybe two good years. That's the kind of assessment that 944 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: all these clubs have to make, and they are going 945 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: to be differing opinions, and which is why doctors with doctors, 946 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: people often get second opinions because one doctor might think thing, 947 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: another might think another. So there's an interesting assessment, and 948 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: there is risk reward here. I don't think there's any 949 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: question about that. It's a matter of weighing the risk 950 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: versus the reward and then deciding how much money you're 951 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: willing to put down to take the risk for the 952 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: potential reward. There's a lot of work. This is not 953 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: an easy call. You can talk about how much he's 954 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: done in this league till you're blue in the face. 955 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. What matters is what you think he's 956 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: still capable of based on the recent injury history. That's 957 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: the number one thing you have to consider. When making 958 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: a decision on a player like this. He'll be thirty 959 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: at the end of this month. Ziggy Ansa will, so 960 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't look for long term contributions from him at least. 961 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: But again, the calculation and Bills fans have thought this 962 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: really get calls about Ziggi every week, right The calculation 963 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: is how much improved could the pass rush be without 964 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: Ziggy Ansa? Is there evidence that they've improved their pass rush? 965 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: Do you think? Well, I think in terms of body, 966 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: he's what you've added is Daryl Johnson, who we just 967 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: had on the phone, who's a small school player who's 968 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: probably not going to see probably not going to see 969 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: much of the field. If he even makes the roster, 970 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: he's probably an inactive and is only going to get 971 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: on the field if there's an injury. Then you have 972 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, who had his best season in Bill's uniform 973 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Jerry Hughes, who by a lot of 974 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: analytic metrics, had a very strong season, was among the 975 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: best in generating pressure in terms of percentage in the league. 976 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: He was up around twenty percent pressure rate, which is 977 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: the highest in the league last year. But I think 978 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: there's no question that this team believes they have to 979 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: get more than the thirty six sacks they got last year, 980 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: so they're looking to add I don't think there's any 981 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: secret about that. If they can do it. Trent Murphy 982 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 1: had an injury riddle twenty eighteen. You know he wants 983 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: to do better than that and come back healthy and 984 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: put together a solid season that's more like the nine 985 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: sack campaign he had in his last healthy season with Washington. 986 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: So there are options there. And let's not forget Lorenzo Alexander, 987 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: the jack of all trades that you can line up 988 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: in a pass rushing package who can get home for you. 989 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: They used him in more pass rushing situations in twenty eighteen, 990 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: and he was far more effective than he was in 991 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when he was off the ball a lot 992 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 1: more So, I think this defensive staff found a better 993 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: way to make use of Lorenzo Alexander's talents on the field, 994 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: and you hope they take another step with that this year. 995 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: But could you stand to add more pass rushing production? 996 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: Sure after midnight tonight, the Bills and the rest of 997 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, they can sign some of those free agents 998 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: still out there without jeopardizing some of their compensatory draft picks. 999 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. Our question on 1000 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: the table deals with who won the offseason. We know 1001 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: you loved the Bills, but what about the rest of 1002 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. The Cardinals a candidate for that distinction the 1003 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: winning team this offseason. We're gonna talk with Bob McManaman, 1004 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: who covers the Cardinals for the Arizona Republic, when we 1005 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: return command back for that. One Bill's Live presented by 1006 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 1: Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. 1007 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories update from One Bill Drive. Some 1008 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: changes in the Bills scouting department today. They made a 1009 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: promotion and added a couple of area scouts. The Bills 1010 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: promoted senior college scout Dennis Hickey to the post of 1011 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: senior National Scout. He's been with the Bills now for 1012 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: three seasons of fifteen years, scounting veteran former general manager 1013 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins. They also hired a couple of 1014 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: area scouts. A. J. Highsmith comes over after spending the 1015 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: last five years in the personnel department of the San 1016 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers, the last three as a pro 1017 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: personnel scout also added to the Bills Scounty department Mike Zabo. 1018 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: He is an Area scout veteran of nineteen years scouting 1019 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: the last seventeen with the Carolina Panthers. Changes made in 1020 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills Scounty department. Richie Incocto left the Oakland 1021 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: Raiders facility last night without a deal, as the team 1022 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: had him in for a workout yesterday today trying to 1023 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: figure out the Raiders are trying to ferre our whether 1024 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: to add Incognito to their competition at the left guard position. 1025 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: One sticking point could be possible league discipline for Incognito 1026 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: as a misbehavior the last couple of years, the Buccaneers say. 1027 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: Defensive end Jason Pierre Paul was released from a hospital 1028 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: after a car accident last week and will undergo further evaluation. 1029 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: A report today about that injury casts down on Pierre 1030 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 1: Paul's chances of playing this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN 1031 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: says Pierre Paul suffered a neck injury and has now 1032 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 1: seen specialists to determine whether or not the fracture will 1033 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: keep him from getting on the field this season. There's 1034 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: a chance that Pierre Paul will need surgery and maybe 1035 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: out for the entire year. Levion Bell, being questioned about 1036 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: why he has abandoned the Jets offseason conditioning, took the 1037 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 1: social media last night to respond to it. Said, he's 1038 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: going to he's skipping voluntary workouts when it's time to 1039 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: play football. I got to stick to the formula that 1040 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: has served me well in the past, Levion Bell says, 1041 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: so he's staying away from the Jets offseason workouts. The 1042 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: next wave of NFL free agency begin later tonight after 1043 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: midnight tonight. The passion of the league wide deadline at 1044 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: midnight means that veteran players on the open market no 1045 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: longer count in the league's calculation of draft picks, competittory picks. 1046 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: Stanta Cup Playoffs a night one game Dallas at St. 1047 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: Louis at his Game seven of that series tied at 1048 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: three wins apiece. That's the update from One Bills Drive, 1049 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Chris Brown. Chris is in for the 1050 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: vacation in Steve Tasker kind of focusing on some of 1051 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL now at this point after 1052 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: the draft, after free agency, and asking you the question 1053 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: about who won the off season. Yes, we know who 1054 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 1: Rex proclaimed a couple of years ago that the Bills did. 1055 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: Let's put the Bills aside because we know you're all 1056 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,439 Speaker 1: Bills fans and ask you the question, which NFL team 1057 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: won the offseason, or at least has won it so far. 1058 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: One of the teams that we have talked about are 1059 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals with the first round draft pick, the 1060 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: quarterback first overall, and some of the other moves they 1061 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: have made. And joining us right now on the line 1062 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 1: as a man who follows the Cardinals very closely. He 1063 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: is senior sports writer for the Arizona Republic covering the 1064 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals in the NFL, covering that team since nineteen 1065 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: eighty eight. Happy to have Bob McManaman on the line 1066 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: with us, Bob, John Murphy, and Chris Brown up here 1067 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks very much for being with us. Thanks 1068 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: for having me guys. Could you make the argument that 1069 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals have won the NFL off season? What 1070 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah? I liked what a lot of 1071 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: teams did. Cleveland comes to mind right away, a few 1072 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: other teams, but it's hard not to look at Arizona 1073 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: and be intrigued simply because I thought they had one 1074 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: of the better drafts of any team. But they really 1075 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: helped themselves in the off season by virtue having you know, 1076 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: the first rite of first refusal on waiver claims, being 1077 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: very very quick to plug some quality guys, maybe not 1078 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: star names in free agency, but quality guys they can 1079 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: they can plug right in as starters, veteran guys who 1080 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: have got decent pedigrees. So but this draft I thought 1081 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: was Time's best draft that he's ever had, and it's 1082 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: the best draft I can remember since two thousands or 1083 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: when they got Larry Fitzgerald, Darnell Dockett and Cardinal and 1084 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 1: Carlos Dansby. I wonder, Bob, who you have in mind 1085 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: when you talked about the quality guys the Cardinals have 1086 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: claimed off the waiver wire. Well, they added to starting 1087 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: lineman up front, j R. Sweezy's a guard I've liked 1088 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: for years for the Seahawks. They added Marcus Gilbert of 1089 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 1: right tackle, but Sweezy, to me, was was the biggest 1090 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: haul in many ways. You know, I won't discount Terrell 1091 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: Suggs even though he's you know, he's been around for 1092 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: a long, long time. But he was still productive even 1093 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: just a year ago. I think hadn't him with Chandler 1094 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: Jones could be even if it's just for a year. Guys, 1095 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: I think is as intriguing as I'll get up. What 1096 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: was the approach of the Cardinals, Bob, in terms of 1097 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: rebuilding that offensive line? Like, what were they saying publicly 1098 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: after what was a disastrous year for their for their 1099 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: group up front? I'm just kind of curious what the 1100 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: dialogue was at the end of the season and did 1101 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 1: it pretty much match up with what they did here 1102 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: in the off season. Well, I don't know. I mean, 1103 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: that's hard to answer because it cost so many people 1104 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: their jobs and not only cost Steve Wilkes and Mike 1105 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: McCoy their jobs. Mike McCloy right off the bat. It 1106 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: ended up they ended up having to turn their back 1107 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: on last year's number one quarterback and Josh Rod because 1108 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: the line was so bad and affected everything. A lot 1109 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: of those guys who were hurt are coming back, and 1110 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: the guys that were hurt weren't weren't bad at all. 1111 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: D J. Humphries hasn't been able to stay healthy, but 1112 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: talking about a first round pick from Florida, who was 1113 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: a beast and if you could just stay healthy, he's 1114 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Justin Pew. You guys probably familiar with 1115 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: him from the New York area as a tough guard 1116 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: who again just can't stay healthy. They just went through 1117 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: so many different guys. They had fourteen to fifteen different 1118 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: linemen start for them at one point. That's unheard of. 1119 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: I know Washington's had its problems up front, but I 1120 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen a team at least down in the desert. 1121 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: It's gone through so many people. So I think with 1122 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: they didn't spend a lot of quality draft picks on 1123 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: the line, I don't think they needed to. You need 1124 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: to improve that right away. You do that through veterans. 1125 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they're done tweaking there yet. They've added 1126 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: five guys to that line in the offseason, you know, 1127 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: at least two starters, maybe three. If Max Garzia can 1128 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,320 Speaker 1: somehow sneak in there, I don't see it happening. But 1129 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: the guys that are coming back from injuries weren't horrible, 1130 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: a Q Shipley chief among them. So did they kind 1131 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: of match what you were anticipating here? Like you knew 1132 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: there were going to be some changes did the degree 1133 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: of change kind of match up with what you were thinking? Yeah? Yeah, 1134 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: I think yeah. You needed to look at two spots 1135 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: that were pretty bad, right yeah, and one of the 1136 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: guard spots, and you had enough returning to cover it. 1137 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: They've done that, and they've added they've added depth to 1138 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: which they needed as a young Depth that they have 1139 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: is going to be just fine. On the line with 1140 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: Bob McManaman covers the Arizona Cardinals for the Arizona Republic. 1141 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: Of course, the most notable change comes to quarterback, Bob. 1142 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: But I wonder how you thought that. How do you 1143 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: thought that worked out? As in a definite upgrade to 1144 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: go to another rookie quarterback and think about to Josh 1145 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: Rosen after one year, I like Josh, I know a 1146 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of people, don't you know you read something about 1147 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: him from it if you live somewhere else and you 1148 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: don't really know, and then you're you have to trust 1149 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: what you hear or read. But I trust what I 1150 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: saw and who I talked to when I looked, who 1151 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: I looked at when I talked to him in the eyes, 1152 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: this guy got a bad rep for some silly reason. 1153 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was something out of U 1154 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: Sailor or whatever. He's nothing like everybody said he was. 1155 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: And he's the clickst rich boy kind of thing. But 1156 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: this guy was a hard working kid, who's got it understood, 1157 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: who's smart as a as attack. I'm telling you he's 1158 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I don't know if Miami's the best 1159 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: landing spot for him. I wish him luck. The Cardinals 1160 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: had to do what they did. The most dynamic player, 1161 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: at least athletic person in this draft was Kyler Murray. 1162 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: Without question. Is he the safest pick? No, he's not. 1163 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: But is he a potential game changing, landscape changing player 1164 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: to the NFL? You bet, you bet your buddy is. 1165 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,919 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see him from the ground 1166 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: floor build it up and with Kingsbury running the show 1167 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: and Kyler doing what he does, he is one of 1168 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: the best dual trick quarterbacks you will ever find it. 1169 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see, you know, just how 1170 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: quickly he gets it. Where is their top corner gonna 1171 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: fit in? Byron Murphy. I mean, he's not a guy 1172 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: that you know is gonna blow up to stop watch. 1173 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: I think he ran like a four or five five, 1174 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: and that sometimes is a concern in terms of playing 1175 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: on the boundary. So is he going to be I 1176 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: know he's a hometown kid too, he's from Scottsdale, But 1177 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: is he going to be a slot guy or what 1178 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: do they foresee for him? Yeah? I see Nicol slot 1179 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: start nickel corner right away. Would be stunned if he 1180 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: eventually doesn't move went to a starting role as a 1181 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: perimeter cornerback. Despite of your concerns about the size, they 1182 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: had high grades. They had a top ten grade on 1183 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: him in terms of overall prospects in this draft. And 1184 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: that's telling. Speed is one thing, cover skills is another. 1185 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,479 Speaker 1: And this guy can play press man. I know people 1186 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: out there for some reason don't think he can. But 1187 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: he's a wizard that he's gonna learn from one of 1188 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: the best in Peterson. If Peterson has his act together, 1189 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: doesn't start stirring up the pot. I don't know what 1190 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: his latest problem was a couple of weeks ago, why 1191 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: he didn't show up for voluntary veteran mini camp. He 1192 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: was upset at something someone said to him. I know 1193 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy is a huge upgrade over what they've had 1194 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: ever had next to Pat They did have Robert Alfred 1195 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: who's probably gonna start. I'm not going to discount Byron 1196 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: Murphy making a runner to start in job. I really won't. 1197 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, Nicol Corner, Hey, I'm curious about the two 1198 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: wide receivers selections in the draft. The second rounder Andy 1199 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: is about it from you, Masson and the fourth rounder 1200 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: had Keen Butler. How prominent a role do you envisioned 1201 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: for those two they're gonna be. They're gonna be on 1202 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: the roster. And don't forget about the Earth's kid. He'shan Johnson. 1203 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna make this team too. I have all three 1204 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: of those guys without question making this team. Keishaw might 1205 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: be a little bit on the outs, but they love 1206 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: all three. And Kim said that Keishawan at was in 1207 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: that most natural route runner he saw amongst almost anybody 1208 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: in the draft. So hard to think he's not gonna 1209 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: ge an honest look, Isabella is gonna be their slot 1210 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: guy from day one. He's gonna change the whole. He 1211 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: gives them something they just never had. They've never had 1212 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: a player with that much speed fourth three speed. They 1213 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: could just stretch it and catch the ball. I mean, 1214 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: they had guys like JJ Nelson and John Brown, but 1215 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: weren't always the most reliable, whether it was dropped passes 1216 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: or being able to stay healthy. This kid had never 1217 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: missed a game at mass U mask the Keem Butler's 1218 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: high almost six six. He's like Nikkila Harry. They wish 1219 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: they could have got, you know, when the first at 1220 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: the end of the start of the second round, maybe 1221 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: they took him instead of Byron Murphy. You never know, 1222 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: but this is like a Nikkila Harry, and I would 1223 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: argue maybe even has better potential as a fourth round 1224 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: player if he didn't go to Iowa State and he 1225 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: went to a bigger school, it didn't have been a 1226 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: first round or how good this kid could be. Yeah, 1227 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean you look at the I mean the offensive 1228 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: line is probably gonna have some turnover. It looks like 1229 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: the receive even Corey's gonna get some turnover. How big 1230 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,479 Speaker 1: a factor is is Larry Fitzgerald's going to be, maybe 1231 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily on the field, but in keeping that offensive 1232 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 1: getting that offensive unit up to speed, particularly in the 1233 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: passing game. I mean, he's gonna really have to be 1234 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe the best leader he's ever been this year, right 1235 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. You're right. I mean, 1236 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: he says, how many different coaches has he gone through? 1237 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: And quarterbacks yet again, coordinators, Larry always comes through. Man. 1238 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I'll say that about him. He's he's never disappointed. Anybody 1239 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: that's followed his careers knows what kind of a leader 1240 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: he is. I would hazard to guess that he's going 1241 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: to become a favorite turget of Kyler Murray right away, 1242 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: just because of the trust a rookie quarterback would put 1243 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: in somebody like like Larry who's been around so long, 1244 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: and and Larry has this way of endearing himself too. 1245 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: If he wants the ball, trust me. Hey, Bob Blessing 1246 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: I have for you. You know, we're talking about who 1247 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: won the offseason, and it's not just personnel, it's coaching 1248 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,479 Speaker 1: staff too. Cliff Kingsbury and his staff do they seem 1249 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: to have it it will take to turn that thing 1250 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: around and improve on last year's record. I love some 1251 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: of the coaches that Steve Time helped Kingsbury procured, chief 1252 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: among them. I mean, I know everybody's gonna say Vance 1253 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Joseph and Tom Clements, those are two huge things. I 1254 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: gotta go a little bit deeper. Their offensive line coach 1255 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Coogs is one of the best ever. And I love 1256 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Bill Davis, the linebacker coach, used to be a DC 1257 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: here a long long time ago. Knows the game as 1258 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: well as anyone their receiver coach they got from Green Bay. 1259 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: David right, just an unusual character with different kind of 1260 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: skill sets for a coach. Climbs inside your head. There's 1261 01:02:54,000 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: some they all have bring this different unique coaching styles 1262 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: about him, and it was nice to get for them 1263 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: to give us a chance to get to know these 1264 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: guys because they are completely different. But yeah, from top 1265 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: to bottom, I was impressed, and I'm more impressed with 1266 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe the assistance than that I have been the head coach. 1267 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what because the coach didn't win in college. 1268 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what you like about the Sean Coogler, the 1269 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: old line coach who was here and actually grew up 1270 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: here in the Buffalo area. Yeah, this guy has a 1271 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: way of command and turning players into better players and 1272 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: making those players in turn make their you know, linemates better. Um, 1273 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: it's the attention to detail, it's the man up kind 1274 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: of way. He gets the best out of these guys. 1275 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's done it wherever he's been right, man, 1276 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: I thought that was probably the best higher on the 1277 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: staff to be honest with him. Really, Yeah, that's at 1278 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: last one I got for you, Bob, is where you 1279 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: feel Charles Clay. He's going to fit into the hierarchy 1280 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: at tight end, you know, obviously coming from here style. 1281 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Always like Clay, man, I really liked him when he 1282 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: broke in and thought he was gonna just tear things up. 1283 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: And I know injuries. He's always seems to be on 1284 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: the weekly injury report, right, That's that's something that turns 1285 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: fans off and it doesn't make coaches very happy. But 1286 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the guy whusually ends up playing, he wasn't in the 1287 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: most productive offensive situations neither city he was in for 1288 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: the better part of his career. This is a completely 1289 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: different scenario. Man. He's coming here where they're going to 1290 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,919 Speaker 1: try and score as quick as possible, up tempo, off 1291 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: that side of the shotgun. With this rookie quarterback who's 1292 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna dazzle everybody. Charles Clay could have a career revival. 1293 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned those exact words when writing about him. 1294 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he can do. If 1295 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm thanks for this, I find myself intrigued by the 1296 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and you help us understand what's going on 1297 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: over there. Thank you very much. They may not win 1298 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: any games, but they're gonna be fun to want. Thanks Rob. 1299 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: We're with Bob mcmanahan, who is the Arizona Cardinals beat 1300 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: reporter covering the Cardinals for the Arizona Republics when covering 1301 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: that team for better than thirty one years. When he 1302 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: mentioned Coogler and you mentioned Charles, there are connections between 1303 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Cardinals that we the gloss over. 1304 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: And I think the other connection is they went about 1305 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: rebuilding their offensive line in much the same way that 1306 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: the Bills did with a heavy presence in free agency, 1307 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: whether it's Marcus Gilbert coming in from Pittsburgh or Juwan 1308 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: James coming in from Miami. Max Garcia j R. Sweezy. 1309 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean they added five offensive linement and free agency. 1310 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are up to six, maybe seven 1311 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: in terms of free agency. I've lost count at this point. 1312 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's six six, six or seven. 1313 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: But their their approach was very similar. They both had 1314 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 1: disasters seasons upfront with their offensive line. They knew changes 1315 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: had to be made, and they knew the fastest way 1316 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 1: to change the conversation with the play of their offensive 1317 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: line was primarily to go into free agency and plug 1318 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: some holes and then get some young guys in the pipeline, 1319 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: like the Bills did with Cody Ford. The Cardinals chose 1320 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,439 Speaker 1: to wait a little bit later in the draft because 1321 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: they had other more pressing needs, including getting the quarterback 1322 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: that already walks in the door knowing their offense in 1323 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Interesting team and that's why we put them 1324 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: on our list. We know fans love the Bills. Today 1325 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: we're asking you which other NFL team has won the offseason. 1326 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 1: We know you snicker at that. We know why, but 1327 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 1: we figured we'd throw it in there. Which NFL team 1328 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 1: won the offseason? On the Twitter poll, still pretty strong 1329 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,919 Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. They're lightening up the tweet sheets. 1330 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: Eighty three percent say the Cleveland Browns on the Twitter poll, 1331 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: eight percent say the New York Jets, five percent say 1332 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders, and five percent say the Arizona Cardinals. 1333 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Give us a call, let's discuss eight three fifty twelve 1334 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five You can 1335 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: ascend in a tweet. We might read it on the tweet. Yeah, 1336 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: I got a tweet here that's kind of a dissenting 1337 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: voice for all this, for all this Cleveland Brown support 1338 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: from Patrick where he said, I think on paper the Browns, 1339 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 1: but seeing the Jets, Cardinals, and Browns all have new coaches, 1340 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: I'd say the Raiders only because I think Mayock being 1341 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: hired as GM and the picks they had they're turning 1342 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: over the roster to get Gruden. Guys, the Browns have 1343 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: too many personalities. He's not wrong, he's not wrong, And 1344 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: you've got a first year head coach, right, He's never 1345 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: been in charge of a group like anything in the NFL. 1346 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 1: And let's not forget this either. The one good thing 1347 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 1: that the Browns were relying on was was at least 1348 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 1: a steady defense, if not a spectacular one. And that 1349 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 1: is all changing because Greg Williams is out the door 1350 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: and now he's in New York. Who's going to be 1351 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 1: coaching a hybrid scheme for a Jets defense that had 1352 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of additions. So you've got two teams there 1353 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: with two new revamped defensive schemes, which is going to 1354 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: only further steep in the learning curve. Also from the 1355 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Austin, he says, I picked Oakland because 1356 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,919 Speaker 1: I liked their trade, free agent signings, and their draft 1357 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: as a whole. Gruden made questionable moves his first going 1358 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: around with the Raiders, and it worked very well for them. 1359 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Definitely better than a four win team this year. Yeah, 1360 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: And I think if you look at it that way, 1361 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: So who's going to improve the most, the Cardinals, the Jets, 1362 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: the Raiders, or who's our fourth team, the Browns. I 1363 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: would think you'd have to look at the Oakland Raiders 1364 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: as a team that's gonna win what maybe twice as 1365 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 1: many games this year. Right. It's not that it doesn't 1366 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: seem like that much of a jump for Oakland, mostly 1367 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: because they have the quarterback in place. But it doesn't 1368 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: seem like it would be that much of a jump 1369 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 1: to get to eight wins for the Oakland Raiders. That 1370 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 1: would be the team that I would pick as the 1371 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 1: team that won the off seas. That is a tough division, though, 1372 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about it, you know you've 1373 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 1: got a Chargers team that's loading up and still has 1374 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers Denver. I'll have to see how things work 1375 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 1: out with Flacco there, but the Chiefs, you know, the 1376 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs were the class of that division last year, and 1377 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: granted they've got some major changes at some of their 1378 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: most important skill positions. You don't know what's to happen 1379 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill. Kareem Hunt is in Cleveland now and 1380 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: won't play until mid season. But you know, it's funny 1381 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a way of cycling through a new 1382 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 1: guy and just bringing a new guy on and getting production. 1383 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 1: And they still have Travis Kelcey on offense. Somehow, I 1384 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 1: think they're gonna find, you know, the running back combination 1385 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna work for them, So you're not going to 1386 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: be worried about Kareem Hunt. And they drafted that speedster 1387 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,799 Speaker 1: out of Georgiam Cole Hardman, and when he was drafted, 1388 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: all those analysts were Sam ro there's your replacement for 1389 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill if things don't work out there. This kid 1390 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 1: can fly, He runs a four to three and he's 1391 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 1: the same type of receiver. So I'm not saying he's 1392 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 1: gonna be Tyreek Hill. But it's funny how the Chiefs 1393 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: kind of restock the cupboard, so to speak, not too 1394 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 1: much unlike the Steelers at the wide receiver position, and 1395 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: the way they've cycled through people from Plexico Burris to 1396 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: Santonio Holmes to Antonio Brown to now Juju Smith Schuster, 1397 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: they always seem to have a number one option there. 1398 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Which team won the NFL offseason. On the tweet sheet 1399 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 1: from Andrew, he says the Browns have definitely improved. One 1400 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 1: thing I worry about, he continues with them, is that 1401 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: it's a team with a lot of talented players. But 1402 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,679 Speaker 1: when you have too many talented players, sometimes players egos 1403 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 1: getting the way. Hopefully that doesn't happen to them, but 1404 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: it's having the teams in the past. Yeah, we've talked 1405 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 1: about that a little bit, the egos, the attention on 1406 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I guess for me it comes down 1407 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: to sometimes I don't trust some of those players. I 1408 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 1: don't trust Odell Beckham Junior to go off on his 1409 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: own if things will go his way right off the bat. 1410 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: You know, he might say, what am I doing here? 1411 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: This is not the where I belong? Well, and I think, 1412 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, with a first year coach and Freddie Kitchens, 1413 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 1: I understand he was there last year, but this is 1414 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: a guy that's got no rep in the league. Right, No, 1415 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I've won this, I've won that on his resume. He 1416 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 1: did well with Baker last year. That's about it. So 1417 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 1: to ask a guy like that to have control of 1418 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: personalities like the ones he's going to be inheriting this year, 1419 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: I mean, good luck, buddy. I hope it all works. 1420 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: But the minute, the minute adversity strikes or someone feels 1421 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 1: they're getting the short end of the stick, there's gonna 1422 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: be some grousing, there's gonna be squeaky wheels, And how 1423 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: he handles that is going to be critical for that 1424 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 1: team's fortunes because if he can't manage those personalities, you're 1425 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 1: going to have a major problem and it's going to 1426 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: rear its head in terms of performance on the field 1427 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,760 Speaker 1: in the not too distant future if he cannot keep 1428 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: that under control. I admit I've said it earlier. I 1429 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: have Browns fatigue. I'm trying to not let that cloud 1430 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: in my judgment of if they won the offseason. I'm 1431 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: just tired of hearing about the Browns talking about the Browns. 1432 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 1: The Browns did this, Browns did that. Hey, when we 1433 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 1: come back, we'll talk more about this, which team won 1434 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: the NFL off season. We also want to shift focus 1435 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: a little bit to the Buffalo Bills, and we've talked 1436 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 1: a lot about the rookies now the ten days since 1437 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: the draft. What about last year's rookies? Who do you 1438 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 1: expect to make a big jump? Which second year players 1439 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,760 Speaker 1: are you looking for a looking from this year? And 1440 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: obviously Josh is the obvious choice. Maybe we put Josh 1441 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Allen to the side and talk about the others. We'll 1442 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: do some of that when we come back. Chris Brown 1443 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: with John Murphy. It's One Bill's Live from One Bill's 1444 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Chris Brown with 1445 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 1: us for the rest of the week because Stevie is 1446 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 1: on vacation. Stevie Tasker, happy to have you in the 1447 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 1: audience as well. Thanks for tuning in. You can phone 1448 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 1: in eighth three fifty and toll free one eight eight 1449 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Hey, Chris, I mentioned 1450 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: during the update about Incognito met with the Raiders yesterday. 1451 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,719 Speaker 1: Probably worked out for him, and the reports from Oakland 1452 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: say that the sticking point could be League discipline. Yeah, 1453 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: the incident at what his father's wake in a funeral home, 1454 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 1: or something in South Florida. I guess that falls under 1455 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: the NFL's player conduct policy, even though he was not 1456 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL when that happened. Yet little squirrelly Yeah, 1457 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,520 Speaker 1: I think he also had an incident or a confrontation 1458 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: in a room in a weight room. Yeah, he threw 1459 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: a dumbell at somebody. So yeah, it was. It's troubling, 1460 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: and I think that's why some of his former teammates 1461 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 1: here were genuinely concerned about him and where where his 1462 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 1: mindset was at. So, you know, hopefully that's keep him 1463 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: out of the league. Is that serious enough to keep 1464 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: him out of the league, Well, his behavior at his 1465 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 1: father's wake, I don't know. I mean, look, I admitted 1466 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Ritchie if he wants to come back. 1467 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to be healthy and hope he comes back 1468 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: because I think his heart is in the right place 1469 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,640 Speaker 1: if his head is not. From time to time, I 1470 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: understand that. So I do root for the guy. I 1471 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: just worry about him as somebody who when you know 1472 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 1: football is not a part of his life, what is 1473 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 1: he going to be able to find a purpose? And 1474 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I think perhaps his struggle with that to a certain 1475 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 1: degree might be why he's having so much trouble right now. 1476 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: It's it's tough sometimes for these guys to transition from 1477 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 1: twenty four seven football and then that's suddenly not in 1478 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 1: your life and there's a natural vacuum, and some guys 1479 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: have trouble filling that vacuum sometimes and then you know, 1480 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: it turns into something unfortunate. So I just hope that 1481 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: doesn't happen for Eric Wood. His teammate and friend had 1482 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: a really I thought it was a really nice tweet yesterday. 1483 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Eric said, Richie Incognito has more left in the tank 1484 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 1: and is ready to get back into the league. Love 1485 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 1: that the Raiders are bringing him in for a workout today. 1486 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 1: Eric's met a good friend with Richie, and he's one 1487 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: of those guys that you mentioned. I was concerned about 1488 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 1: his behavior and some of the stuff that went wrong 1489 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: over the last year or so. Yeah, those guys were tight. 1490 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 1: They share the same agent, so but yeah, they had 1491 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: a genuine friendship in their time here. I mean, those 1492 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: guys were tight. They were kind of joined at the hip, 1493 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: not only on the field based on where they lined up, 1494 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: but off the field too, their locker room neighbors. So yeah, 1495 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Keep an eye on that one. We'll 1496 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 1: see if that works out for Ritchie in the Oakland Raiders. 1497 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Bills and the NFL today. Two 1498 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: different topics up for debate, one of them second year players. 1499 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: We'll get deep into this in a minute. Which one 1500 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,639 Speaker 1: are you looking the most? Which one are the Bills 1501 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 1: looking to get the most from this year. We'll put 1502 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen off to the side because that's pretty obvious. 1503 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 1: But which second year Bills player prime for a breakout 1504 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 1: season this coming year? And the original topic, Many people 1505 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 1: think the Bills have had a good offseason, but what 1506 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 1: other NFL team actually won the off season in your mind? 1507 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 1: Give us a call to discuss eight three five fifty 1508 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five 1509 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: fifty Rex from Tonawanda on the line, Hello, Rex, Welcome 1510 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,600 Speaker 1: to the show. Hey, hey guys, thanks for having me on. 1511 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: Of course, I think it's easy answer. Best off season 1512 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,839 Speaker 1: definitely has to belong to Cleveland Browns. They got Oldell Beckham, 1513 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 1: they got Karinem Hunts, they had a good draft. Yeah, 1514 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,040 Speaker 1: I think definitely you got to say that belongs to 1515 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 1: them and accords to the Bills. Player that we're looking 1516 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 1: forward to seeing this year. It's got to be Tremaine Edmunds. 1517 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it's another obvious answer for me personally. Okay, 1518 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: a couple of obvious answers for you, Rex Well, let's 1519 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 1: talk about that for a minute. The second year Bills player, Chris. 1520 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing Tremaine, and I think he's 1521 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna have a gonna follow up what he did last year. 1522 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 1: He got better as the year went along, got more comfortable. 1523 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 1: I think he will be better as the season moves along. 1524 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: But I'm really really interested in the second year player 1525 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to see what Robert Foster looks like and how he 1526 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 1: performs this year. I mean, that was an up and 1527 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: down season. I know he finished strong and he had 1528 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: some spectacular catches and some huge plays down the stretch, 1529 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: but his first half of the season was not, you know, 1530 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 1: anything to shout about. Really. He got caught, he got 1531 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: released on the roster, went to practice squad, fought his 1532 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 1: way back, hung in there. His speed makes him a 1533 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 1: guy that you just cannot ignore, and the Bills found 1534 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: that to be the case. But now that he's got 1535 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: a year under his belt with some of that, you know, 1536 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 1: some of the difficulties he had last year. I'm really 1537 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: eager to see what Robert Foster comes back and looks 1538 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,519 Speaker 1: like and and maybe this is more important how they 1539 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 1: use him and how they can use him instead of 1540 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 1: just a deep downfield target. I think Foster is the 1541 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,280 Speaker 1: player that I'm looking at the most from this year 1542 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: to make a jump in second year. He ranks high 1543 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: on my list, And as I mentioned on yesterday's show, 1544 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,600 Speaker 1: the thing that's going to benefit him the most is 1545 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the attention that's going to be paid to players like 1546 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and John Brown in this passing game. Now 1547 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,680 Speaker 1: it's not just let's roll coverage over the top so 1548 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 1: Foster doesn't beat us for a sixty yard touchdown anymore. 1549 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: It's like, oh boy, we got this guy John Brown 1550 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 1: who can fly on this side. We got Beasley underneath. 1551 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 1: There is going to be a lot more decision making 1552 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: on the part of opposing defense is that they have 1553 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 1: to make when defending this team against the pass. And 1554 01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: I think the attention that's going to have to be 1555 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 1: paid to Cole Beasley on a third and four is 1556 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 1: going to help a player like Robert Foster make more 1557 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: plays for this team. I think you get residual value 1558 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 1: in what Robert Foster can give you based on the 1559 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 1: other talent you've put on this roster around him in 1560 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 1: the receiving corps. I think he's going to make more 1561 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 1: plays this year because it's going to be harder to 1562 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 1: devote attention to him based on who else is lining 1563 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 1: up out there at wide out for the Bills. So 1564 01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 1: who do you have for your second year player who 1565 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 1: would make a big for me? I'm going with Tarn Johnson, 1566 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: a guy that certainly made enormous impression as a fourth 1567 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: round draft choice winning the starting nickel role, and the 1568 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: guy that was competing with him isn't even on the 1569 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: roster anymore. Now that's not to say he doesn't have competition. 1570 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 1: I think he will. E J. Gaines has some experience 1571 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,800 Speaker 1: in the slot. Kevin Johnson has some experience in the slot. 1572 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: But I think this is Tarn Johnson's job to lose. 1573 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 1: We have to remember, this guy got through almost the 1574 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 1: entire season playing with a torn labor in his shoulder, 1575 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,440 Speaker 1: and his style of play did not change one iota 1576 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 1: even with that injury, which I've never had it, but 1577 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you I've seen a number of 1578 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 1: players with it in covering this team over the years. 1579 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: It is not an easy injury to play through. There 1580 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: were times in games where that shoulder harness that he 1581 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 1: had would come loose, his shoulder would be compromised, and 1582 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: he'd have to come out for a few plays. They'd 1583 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: strap it back up and he's back in the game again. 1584 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 1: But pound for pound, this is one of the hardest 1585 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: hitters on the team. He is not afraid of run 1586 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 1: support from that slock corner position, which is super important 1587 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: in the scope of his defense. And he was a 1588 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 1: playmaker in the time that he was on the field. 1589 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a guy who had a 1590 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,639 Speaker 1: sack last year, he had a forced fumble, he had 1591 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 1: an interception, he had crooked numbers despite the fact they 1592 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,800 Speaker 1: didn't even get through a whole season. And this is 1593 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 1: a kid that's been rehabbing since he had the surgery 1594 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: on his torn laborman his shoulder, and he is ready 1595 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: to roll. And I'm really interested to see a fully 1596 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: healthy Terren Johnson playing that nickel corner role for the 1597 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 1: Bills this year. So that's a guy that I think 1598 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 1: can make a jump even from where he was last year. 1599 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 1: Knowing that if he stays healthy, he can be an 1600 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: even better player than he showed on the field. So 1601 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 1: now we got a couple of topics on the table. 1602 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 1: Second year players on the Bills ready to make a 1603 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 1: big jump. We'll leave Josh Allen out of it for now. 1604 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 1: And which team is one day offseason? Which other NFL 1605 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 1: team besides the Bills has won the offseason? From the 1606 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. An interesting note of here from Thomas Derlac 1607 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 1: Which team is one of the offseason He says after 1608 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 1: the Bills, I feel the forty nine ers had the 1609 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,599 Speaker 1: best offseason. We didn't think about them. D Ford Kwon, 1610 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 1: Alexander Tevin Coleman, Jordan Matthews, Richard Sherman, Robbie Gold will 1611 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 1: add to the talent. Then they drafted the Bosa and 1612 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. In my opinion, there will be a playoff 1613 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 1: contender in the NFC forty nine Ers playoff contender Obviously, 1614 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 1: A lot depends on the health of the quarterback. Garoppolo 1615 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 1: is a big part of the Yeah, lot depends on 1616 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 1: their division rivals. I mean they're in a really pretty 1617 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: fairly strong division. Yeah, And there is a risk factor 1618 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 1: with Kwan Alexander coming off the ACL. I mean, he 1619 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,360 Speaker 1: was a fantastic player when he was healthy, but you know, 1620 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 1: you come off the ACL sometimes you're not the same 1621 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: player that you were in that first year back. And 1622 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 1: I have to be honest, they've taken a lot of 1623 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,560 Speaker 1: risk with their signings in terms of players that have 1624 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 1: injury histories. They signed Kwan Alexander coming off the ACL, 1625 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, but they also signed back Jason Varett, 1626 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 1: a former first round pick of the Chargers who's a 1627 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 1: really good corner but could not stay on the field, 1628 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 1: and the Chargers were just done with it. I mean 1629 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 1: the number, like they always say, murf the number one 1630 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 1: ability in the NFL, is availability, and Villerette was not that. 1631 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: And he had another injury shortened season last year and 1632 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers cut the cord. So they signed him. Granted 1633 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 1: it's only a one year deal, but are you going 1634 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: to get sixteen games out of him? I don't know. 1635 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews another guy they signed to a one year 1636 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 1: deal from Philly. The Bill saw first hand first day 1637 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 1: on the practice field. He got injured and dealt with 1638 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 1: another injury later in the year that he was here. 1639 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,439 Speaker 1: So there's another guy with an injury history, is he 1640 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 1: going to be available for you? And Tevin Coleman super 1641 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 1: talented running back, but you better have a second running back, 1642 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 1: you know when they do, because I don't know that 1643 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,080 Speaker 1: that's a full workload kind of guy, because he's a 1644 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,760 Speaker 1: guy that would get nicked when Davonte Freeman was out 1645 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 1: of the lineup in Atlanta. So there's a lot of 1646 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,720 Speaker 1: injury risk that they took with some of their free 1647 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: agent acquisitions. There's a call on the line about this topic. 1648 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 1: Who had the best offseason? Jim calling from New Jersey. Hello, Jim, 1649 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Yes, sir, oh, I 1650 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 1: agree with Robert Foster. I think he's gonna really have 1651 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,720 Speaker 1: to come around better than he did. So he had 1652 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,360 Speaker 1: a good end of the year. And of course, being 1653 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,680 Speaker 1: a Bills fans since nineteen sixty, the boat had the 1654 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 1: best draft and best free agent. But then after that, 1655 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 1: I think it's the Cleveland Browns. Why do you think 1656 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,839 Speaker 1: the Browns? Well, I think they're going to have static problems, 1657 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: like you said, but you know, they got Backham and 1658 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 1: they made a lot of acquisitions free agency and they 1659 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 1: had a pretty good draft. Okay, another vote for the 1660 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: clevedon Browns. Well, he liked the Bills. He liked the Bills, 1661 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: and he said after that, then the Browns, and you know, 1662 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 1: I get it. I found it just so you guys know, 1663 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 1: like Foster finished the season like a like a firecracker. 1664 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he was one. He was out paid. Over 1665 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 1: the last six games, he was outpacing almost every other 1666 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 1: receiver in the league that was not named Antonio Brown 1667 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 1: in terms of yards receiving per game. I mean, he 1668 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 1: was crushing it. I think he had five hundred forty 1669 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 1: one yards receiving and it was all in the last 1670 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 1: six games of the year. I mean, I supposed one 1671 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 1: hundred yards of game as a rookie that was undrafted 1672 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 1: in an offense that really wasn't going places last year 1673 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 1: in terms of pure production. So I mean, I think 1674 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 1: it's a good pick. Murph. I probably would have picked 1675 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 1: him if you didn't. Yeah, I mean, if he can 1676 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 1: pick up where he left off last year, and as 1677 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 1: I mentioned, not getting as much attention from opposing defenses 1678 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,680 Speaker 1: because of the other people they're lining up on offense. Now, 1679 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean this kid could be something. I mean, he 1680 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: could really be a diamond in the rough that you 1681 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: know the Bills found and now it's on. You know, 1682 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 1: a guy like Chad Hall, the new receivers coach, but 1683 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 1: he was here last year and he worked with Robert 1684 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot. A lot of that extra work that Robert 1685 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,879 Speaker 1: put in he did with you know, Chad Hall, Shay Tierney, 1686 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 1: some other offensive assistants on the staff. When he said, hey, 1687 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 1: I want to go, you know, run some more routes 1688 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,720 Speaker 1: for twenty minutes. You know, the offensive coordinator can't do that. 1689 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,680 Speaker 1: He's putting game plans together. But some of these you know, 1690 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,560 Speaker 1: offensive assistants go out with him and they, you know, 1691 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 1: work on the finer points of his route running and stuff. 1692 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Chad Hall did a lot of that with him last year. 1693 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Now he's his receivers coach. So I think that blend 1694 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,160 Speaker 1: will be a good one for the guys that were 1695 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 1: here last year. They know coach Hall, so that'll help. 1696 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: I really think that he could really take the cover 1697 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: off his production this year if he sticks by what 1698 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 1: got him to where he was at the end of 1699 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: last season. You know, it would be a tremendous best 1700 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 1: case scenario for the Bills at wide receiver. And tell me, Murf, 1701 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 1: I will tell you what I think anyway, and I'm 1702 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, after the draft a week ago, I was thinking, hey, 1703 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,559 Speaker 1: you know, where's the number one wide receiver? They didn't 1704 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,439 Speaker 1: pick one at all. I regret that. I wish it 1705 01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 1: would have done something. How about if Robert Foster develops 1706 01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more this year and down into 1707 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 1: the future as a number one NFL wide receiver. He's got, 1708 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, the physical skills, the speed, He's decent sized. 1709 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 1: I think he learned a lot from his rookie year. 1710 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna make I'm gonna do something here 1711 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 1: that I don't like when callers do it, but I'm 1712 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: going to compare him to one of the all time 1713 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Bill's great tire Reid was a fourth round pick. He 1714 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 1: was not the complete package. He got better every I 1715 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 1: said this all the time. Every year Andre Reid came 1716 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 1: back to training camp every summer, he was a better 1717 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,640 Speaker 1: player than when he left. What if that starts to 1718 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 1: happen with Robert Foster, that would be great, And I 1719 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 1: think you're saying it well, but that would be the 1720 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: absolute best case scenario. For That's what everybody's hoping for. 1721 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Because if he does based on the skill set that 1722 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,760 Speaker 1: he possesses, which is why he got a chance in 1723 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: the NFL in the first place. Right then, yes, I 1724 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,719 Speaker 1: mean I don't want to use the cliche, the sky cliche, 1725 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 1: but he should be an ascending player. I don't think 1726 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: there's any question about that. I think if there's one 1727 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,720 Speaker 1: thing that he's got to develop in his game, it's 1728 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:59,960 Speaker 1: route savvy, and that comes through repetition and through experience. 1729 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: A lot of times, you get to know the league 1730 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,440 Speaker 1: a little bit better. You get to know the cornerbacks 1731 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 1: you're going against. What does this guy? You know? You 1732 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 1: watch film to get a better read on how you 1733 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 1: can set a cornerback up. That is all go toward. 1734 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 1: That all goes toward your route savvy. As a as 1735 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver in this league, you get to know 1736 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback better well that too, that too, and you 1737 01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 1: also have veterans in the room now who can kind 1738 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,479 Speaker 1: of counsel you on that a little bit, like, oh, 1739 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 1: I've played against this guy fifteen times, you want to 1740 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 1: do this on him when you're you know, when you're 1741 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,640 Speaker 1: giving him a double move, you know, this is how 1742 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: you set him up. Those are the kinds of things 1743 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: that hopefully he will be able to incorporate into his 1744 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,200 Speaker 1: game to make him a more consistent receiver down in 1745 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 1: and down out, series in, series out. To be clear, 1746 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not predicting that will happen. I'm saying that would 1747 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 1: be a tremendous bonus if Robert Foster becomes a gravy 1748 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, that'd be amazing. We're gonna take a 1749 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 1: break talking about two topics. Which NFL team other than 1750 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: the Bills if you would won the offseason? Number two, 1751 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 1: which second year player on the Buffalo right is ready 1752 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,559 Speaker 1: to make a big jump up Aside from Josh Hillen, 1753 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,639 Speaker 1: we got a lot of restrictions in today's Twitter poll. 1754 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: We're back with Mark Yeah, quidifiers, Chris Brown, John Murphy 1755 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 1: coming back. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This 1756 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 1: says Buffalo Bill's reading One goes Live from One Bills Drive, 1757 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 1: John Murphy with Chris Brown here until three. We got 1758 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 1: a good couple of topics going today, which which team 1759 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL won the offseason and which second year 1760 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: Bill's player is prime for a breakout in year two. 1761 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,080 Speaker 1: We'll leave johsh Jillen out of it. Give us a call. 1762 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 1: We'll discuss either one of those topics right in a tweet. 1763 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 1: We may read it. This came up today, Chris first 1764 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: thing in the morning. I read this. Peter King's edition 1765 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 1: of Football Morning in America came out yesterday. He took 1766 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:54,400 Speaker 1: a shot, a major shot at former Watchington quarterback Joe thisman. 1767 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 1: I'll just read a little bit of this. Let's have it. 1768 01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 1: Peter King writes this, I think Joe this and even 1769 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 1: seeming to suggest that Dwayne Haskins had to kiss his 1770 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: ring before being rewarded with the number seven jersey in 1771 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,640 Speaker 1: Washington is really weird and a little mindful of the 1772 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Emperor with no clothes. And this is where Peter King 1773 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,599 Speaker 1: get serious. When anyone think that a man with fewer 1774 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 1: passing yardists than Steve Grogan and Jim Harbaugh, fewer touchdown 1775 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 1: passes than Earl Morrell and John Kittner, with a lower 1776 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: career rating than Kyle Orton and David Craig, should have 1777 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: his number retired. Mark Rippon won a Super Bowl, Trent 1778 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 1: Delford won a Super Bowl, Bred Johnson Jeff Hosteller won one. 1779 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 1: Come on the fact that Washington never gave thisman's number 1780 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,840 Speaker 1: out for years after his gruesome injuries. A nice gesture, 1781 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 1: I suppose, but it's silly to think he was an 1782 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: all timer, the kind of player who's numbers should never 1783 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:45,439 Speaker 1: be worn again. It's odd because it's Tipisman. Whatever you 1784 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: think me, I know he was not I remember his career. 1785 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,720 Speaker 1: Not a great quarterback. He was okay, but he wasn't 1786 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 1: a great quarterback. But after all these years, to take 1787 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,639 Speaker 1: a shot at him like that, it is odd coming 1788 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 1: from Peter King, who seems to respect the game, minutes history. Agreed, Chris, 1789 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,679 Speaker 1: what do you think, Well, something apparently happened between Peter 1790 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: Kany and Joe Heisman is all I'm gonna say. Whether 1791 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 1: he snubbed him for an interview or you know, had 1792 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 1: some kind of comment that he didn't appreciate. I mean, 1793 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,679 Speaker 1: it's peculiar. I will admit that the commentary is peculiar 1794 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,920 Speaker 1: on Peter King's behalf because he typically does take the 1795 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 1: high road. Yeah, he has a history of taking the 1796 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:29,200 Speaker 1: high road, even when the opportunity presents itself. So I 1797 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the motive is here. I don't know 1798 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,200 Speaker 1: if it's personal, because usually Peter King doesn't get personal either. 1799 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 1: It's definitely it's funny, it's well, it's a little bit humorous. Yeah, 1800 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you that, but it's a little out of 1801 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,560 Speaker 1: character for what you usually read from Peter King. So 1802 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 1: that's why it struck me. It struck me more as 1803 01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 1: odd than it did humorous. I don't think you can 1804 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,720 Speaker 1: dismiss the fact that Joethisman's a guy who was in 1805 01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,439 Speaker 1: the cfla before even got to the NFL. I mean, 1806 01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,560 Speaker 1: this guy was not a highly touted player for a 1807 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:09,759 Speaker 1: long time. And I think his success and the success 1808 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 1: of Mark Rippon and the success of Doug Williams, three 1809 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for Washington who all won Super Bowls, is more 1810 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 1: says more about Joe Gibbs as a head coach than 1811 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,800 Speaker 1: it does about either of them as quarterbacks in this 1812 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 1: league historically. By way of explanation, maybe perspective, I think 1813 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 1: Heisman's place in Washington Redskins history is maybe overvalued in 1814 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Washington because of the era which you just mentioned right 1815 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 1: to Joe Gibbs era, and he was really the you know, 1816 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,920 Speaker 1: the man who got it started there. I think he 1817 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,000 Speaker 1: was regarded, first of all, a major celebrity, right he 1818 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 1: had I didn't even know who his wife was, but 1819 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 1: she was famous and prominent. Remember that what was her name, 1820 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 1: I'd forget Joe thisman's wife. Yeah, he didn't have a 1821 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 1: famous wife. Yeah, I think you're right. I can't remember. 1822 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,080 Speaker 1: But he was a major celebrity and maybe brought the 1823 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Redskins back to prominence when he played. And and let's 1824 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 1: face it is Monday Night injury. The gruesome hit on 1825 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,560 Speaker 1: Monday Night that ended his career, elevated his stature, I 1826 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,400 Speaker 1: think in Washington. I think that's what UM moved him 1827 01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,720 Speaker 1: up ahead of his ability, ahead of his accomplishments. Now, 1828 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,080 Speaker 1: should Dwayne Haskins have to get permission to wear his 1829 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 1: number seven? No? I mean no, no, Peter King's right 1830 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,760 Speaker 1: about that. That's that's it's a little silly because you're 1831 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,680 Speaker 1: not Kathy Lee Crosby. Yeah, that was his wife at 1832 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:35,400 Speaker 1: the time. Yes, he's on number four again. Maybe maybe 1833 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,560 Speaker 1: you should warn number four Dwayne Haskins. I don't know, 1834 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,760 Speaker 1: but I think his statue was elevated by the fact 1835 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,720 Speaker 1: that he represented an era in Redskins history and UM, 1836 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 1: and that's it. He wasn't really a great player. Um, 1837 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,799 Speaker 1: So I I understand what Peter King saying. I agree 1838 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,960 Speaker 1: with you. It's odd for Peter King to basically rip 1839 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 1: a guy like that. His playing career was longer than 1840 01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,439 Speaker 1: three of his marriages. We're taking a break, We're coming 1841 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live from One Bills Drive. This is 1842 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:19,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Bills Radio Networks Stories at the update 1843 01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,000 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. The Bills with a couple of 1844 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 1: moves in their scouting department today. They have promoted senior 1845 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 1: cottage scout Dennis Hikey. He's been with the team for 1846 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 1: the last three years. His new job, Dennisiki is going 1847 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 1: to be the Bills. Um, where's it here? Dennisicki was 1848 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,320 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. I've lost his title here, Chris be 1849 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,160 Speaker 1: the new senior or National Scout. That's it. I couldn't 1850 01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,400 Speaker 1: find it on the paper that he thank you. This 1851 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,360 Speaker 1: Bill's news Senior National Scout. They've hired a couple of 1852 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,439 Speaker 1: veteran scouts to join the organization. One of them, A J. Highsmith, 1853 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 1: would become an area scout. He spent the last five 1854 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,439 Speaker 1: years in the personnel department of the San Francisco forty 1855 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 1: nine ers, last three as a pro personnel scout. And 1856 01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 1: they hired longtime scout Mike Zabo as an area scout. 1857 01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,800 Speaker 1: A nineteen year scounting veteran, last seventeen of those years 1858 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers organization. Richie Incognito worked out for 1859 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,599 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders yesterday, left without a contract. The team 1860 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,200 Speaker 1: now wane potential NFL discipline for some of Incognito's off 1861 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,280 Speaker 1: field activities. He did not play football last year after 1862 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,760 Speaker 1: leaving the Buffalo Bills, retiring, then coming back, and then 1863 01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 1: essentially retiring. He's approaching thirty six years old. Tough break 1864 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,439 Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Potentially defensive end Jason Pierre 1865 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Paul released from a hospital after a car accident last 1866 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 1: week and now he will undergo further evaluation. The report 1867 01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:37,559 Speaker 1: is that he may be suffering a season ending neck injury. 1868 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,560 Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter says the neck injury suffered in the 1869 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,920 Speaker 1: car accident as forced Pierre Paul to see some specialists 1870 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to determine whether he needs surgery. It could keep him 1871 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 1: out for the entire year. Suspended former Steelers and Raiders 1872 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 1: why Martavis Bryant says he has plenty to apply for 1873 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 1: reinstatement in the coming weeks. He's been suspended three times 1874 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,320 Speaker 1: in the last four years for violations of the NFL's 1875 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 1: substance abuse policy. Brighton, an understricted free agent, says he 1876 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 1: hopes to be reinstated and have a chance to sign 1877 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,400 Speaker 1: with a team by the time training camps open up 1878 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 1: in July and Stanley Cup playoffs. One game that's all tonight. 1879 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,719 Speaker 1: It is Game seven out West Dallas at St. Louis. 1880 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,719 Speaker 1: That's eight o'clock face off. The winner advances in the playoffs. 1881 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,160 Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and 1882 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Chris is in for Steam Tasker. You are 1883 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,840 Speaker 1: intrigued to niption in the Jason Pierre Paul reports Chris nothing. 1884 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 1: The Bucks aren't saying anything. Well, they just had a 1885 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,680 Speaker 1: statement from their GM, Jason Lette, who essentially said, our 1886 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:39,160 Speaker 1: concern remains with you know, JPP and the passenger. Although 1887 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul was released from the hospital the same 1888 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 1: day as the accident, we want to take a thorough 1889 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 1: look at him with our medical staff, which makes complete 1890 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 1: sense because does he have something that requires surgery. If so, 1891 01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,160 Speaker 1: how long could will he be out? So, you know, 1892 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 1: they want to get their eyeballs in their doctor's hands 1893 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: on him to see just how he's doing. So you don't. 1894 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,280 Speaker 1: You don't wish that on anybody. Neck injury is nothing 1895 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,360 Speaker 1: to mess with. It's a fractured neck that he suffered, 1896 01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 1: so hopefully he can heal up. And I don't know 1897 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: about football as far as this fall goes, but he's 1898 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,280 Speaker 1: certainly got missed time here in the off season. Chris 1899 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 1: is with us here, ready to interact with you and 1900 01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 1: me for the next hour or so. A couple of 1901 01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: topics on the table. Which team won the off season? Yeah, 1902 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 1: I know it's a ridiculous concept. It was stated here 1903 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 1: in Buffalo a couple of years ago by Rex Ryan. 1904 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 1: But which team do you think won the offseason in 1905 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,639 Speaker 1: the NFL? Obviously Bills fans will want to say Buffalo, 1906 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,240 Speaker 1: but maybe you can look around at some of the others. 1907 01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: That's our Twitter poll today, by the way, and it's 1908 01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,720 Speaker 1: pretty one sided, and I guess it makes sense which 1909 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 1: team won the offseason? Most of our respondents on the 1910 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Twitter powl say it was the Cleveland Browns. Eighty what 1911 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:48,160 Speaker 1: three percent of respondent say the Cleveland Browns one the 1912 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,280 Speaker 1: off season? Or eight percent say the Jets, six percent 1913 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,599 Speaker 1: say the Raiders, four percent say the card Nobody's mentioned 1914 01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,040 Speaker 1: the Jets on the tweet sheet at all? Do you 1915 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,120 Speaker 1: find that interesting? Like there have been a couple of 1916 01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,400 Speaker 1: comments saying, oh, I like the Raiders. I don't know 1917 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 1: if anybody said anything, but nobody's saying they're at the Jets, 1918 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,479 Speaker 1: And like you look at the headline editions that the 1919 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Browns made and the Jets made comparable headline editions you 1920 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: know in the former c J. Mosley or they spent 1921 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,599 Speaker 1: eighty five million dollars on and then Levi on Bell, 1922 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,320 Speaker 1: who's already causing headaches there in New York, as we 1923 01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,599 Speaker 1: heard from Richard to meany yesterday he was on the show. Yeah, 1924 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:29,520 Speaker 1: not reporting to a couple of voluntary things, and that's 1925 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a mess. That's gonna be a mess. I 1926 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 1: think had a really good point with us yesterday when 1927 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,040 Speaker 1: he said, based on what happened last year and his 1928 01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,160 Speaker 1: failure to report at all to the Pittsburgh Steelers, you 1929 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,560 Speaker 1: would have thought that Lemium Bell would have wanted to 1930 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,840 Speaker 1: put that narrative to bed by being around for the 1931 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 1: voluntary workouts with the Jets. He has not. He was 1932 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 1: there week one and has not been seen since. He 1933 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,960 Speaker 1: says he's following his own program. The same program he 1934 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,560 Speaker 1: followed his first couple of years in the league. But 1935 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,840 Speaker 1: you would think he would maybe come with the different approach. 1936 01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,320 Speaker 1: A fact he's not's got to be bothersome at least 1937 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 1: of the New York I got news for you for 1938 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,439 Speaker 1: something that he's not following the offensive line he ran 1939 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,639 Speaker 1: behind in twenty seventeen, because that line does not exist 1940 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,760 Speaker 1: in New York right now, and even when it's fully 1941 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 1: put together, it's not gonna look like the Pittsburgh offensive line. 1942 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 1: So as patient a runner as he was and has 1943 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,040 Speaker 1: been known to be was doing he could run that way, 1944 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:23,639 Speaker 1: ding large part to the integrity of the Pittsburgh offensive line. 1945 01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 1: He is not going to see as many opportunities running 1946 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,440 Speaker 1: behind this Jets offensive line as he did in Pittsburgh. 1947 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,920 Speaker 1: So he could be in for a rude awakening. I'm 1948 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 1: not saying he's not gonna be productive, but if he's 1949 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,360 Speaker 1: as productive as he was in Pittsburgh, I will be surprised. 1950 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,639 Speaker 1: So which team won the offseason? Give us a call 1951 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:46,960 Speaker 1: on that eight fifty locally outside Buffalo Tolfree e eighty 1952 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,479 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. The other topic on the table 1953 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 1: is which Bill's second year player is prime for a 1954 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,680 Speaker 1: breakout year. We're gonna leave Josh Ellen off to the 1955 01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 1: side because he would be the EC target there again, 1956 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 1: sending a tweet. Give us a call lines open, you 1957 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,680 Speaker 1: get on the air, I few call eight h three 1958 01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,519 Speaker 1: five fifty and outside Buffalo toll free at one eight 1959 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,559 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which second your 1960 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,120 Speaker 1: player is prime for a breakout in the second year. 1961 01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 1: Aside from Josh Ellen, I've got Robert Foster, Chris has 1962 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,160 Speaker 1: Tarn Johnson. The cornerback, Tremaine Edmonds is eligible for that. 1963 01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 1: I guess breakout. We're looking for a breakout and maybe 1964 01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:24,320 Speaker 1: more I don't know, more accurately. Guy who's gonna jump 1965 01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 1: up and I'll perform when he did last year. I 1966 01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,799 Speaker 1: think that would be a big ass I mean, Tarn Johnson. 1967 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tremaine Edmonds is going to be better than 1968 01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,559 Speaker 1: he was a year ago. But to have a massive, 1969 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, quantum leap in what he does for the Bills, 1970 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 1: I think that's asking a lot. I think Robert Foster 1971 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,720 Speaker 1: can get a lot better. Chris says Taron Johnson. You 1972 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,599 Speaker 1: may have somebody else in mind, right, Yeah, I think 1973 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 1: we're looking for Tremaine Edmonds started all last year. It 1974 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,880 Speaker 1: played pretty well, so to ask him to get, you know, 1975 01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,040 Speaker 1: significantly better, is a big ass. I don't think it's 1976 01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,479 Speaker 1: that much times For Robert Foster. I think he might. 1977 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,720 Speaker 1: We might take a big jump because he knows the 1978 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 1: defense now, so that's one less thing on his to 1979 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: do list, like he knows the nuances of it. He's played. 1980 01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 1: Everybody that he started with on defense last year is 1981 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,040 Speaker 1: going to be back, with the exception of Kyle Williams, 1982 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,840 Speaker 1: and whether Levi Wallace holds down the starting corner spot 1983 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: remains to be seen, so there could be a change there, 1984 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,400 Speaker 1: but I think we're anticipating that to a large degree, 1985 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,599 Speaker 1: everybody around him is going to be the same who 1986 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,760 Speaker 1: he played off of in a lot of different situations 1987 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,200 Speaker 1: last year. And then you roll in the fact that 1988 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 1: he's probably bigger and stronger, because this is a scary thing. 1989 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:31,800 Speaker 1: The guy turned twenty one a couple of weeks ago 1990 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 1: and his frame is still filling out. I mean, he 1991 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 1: could put twenty more pounds on his frame without and 1992 01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:41,120 Speaker 1: you wouldn't even know it. I mean, I think he 1993 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 1: could be special, maybe not quite this year, but another 1994 01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:49,320 Speaker 1: one more year. He could be special. That's how good 1995 01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,599 Speaker 1: he can be. And you know he's got the right 1996 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 1: mindset to be great. So I think he could take 1997 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 1: a big jump even though he got a lot of 1998 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,000 Speaker 1: time on the field last year. And I think that's why, 1999 01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,400 Speaker 1: because he got so much time on the field last year, 2000 01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:01,960 Speaker 1: I think he can make a big jump this year 2001 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 1: because everything is going to come so much quicker to 2002 01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,479 Speaker 1: him now. I mean, I don't think it really clicked 2003 01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,600 Speaker 1: for him in terms of reads and getting fooled on 2004 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:13,840 Speaker 1: plays until about mid season when it started to click 2005 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,600 Speaker 1: for him. And then we saw, you know, some of 2006 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,320 Speaker 1: those playmaking type plays that he was turning in in 2007 01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,040 Speaker 1: whether it was a pick against the Jets or I 2008 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 1: think he had another one against the Dolphins, breaking up 2009 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 1: passes deep over the middle when quarterbacks think they can 2010 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,439 Speaker 1: drop it over the linebacker's head and get it to 2011 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 1: the tight end or whatever. He's making a deep crossing 2012 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,000 Speaker 1: route and he gets a hand on the ball for 2013 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,280 Speaker 1: a pass breakup. Those kinds of things. So I think 2014 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,760 Speaker 1: he can make a big jump. You want me to go. 2015 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,840 Speaker 1: We shouldn't dismiss Levi Wallace either. I mean, there's a 2016 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,840 Speaker 1: guy that started the second half of the season. Is 2017 01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,479 Speaker 1: he is he kind of one of those guys who 2018 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,639 Speaker 1: is what he is? Or can he take another step? 2019 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: I think he could take another step with his game. 2020 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't know to what degree, but there's a guy 2021 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,280 Speaker 1: who was an effective player as a rookie who should 2022 01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 1: be better in the year two, hopefully good enough to 2023 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,640 Speaker 1: hold on to his job. But yeah, that's another guy, yep, 2024 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,920 Speaker 1: that I don't think you can dismiss easily. You can 2025 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 1: respond to either one of those questions. Which second year 2026 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,439 Speaker 1: player for the Bills prime for a breakout in year two? 2027 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,800 Speaker 1: Which NFL team won the offseason? Let's work in a 2028 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,519 Speaker 1: couple of phone calls here. We'll go to H. Ryan 2029 01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 1: and north Tonawanda. Hello, Ryan, go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, 2030 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,760 Speaker 1: how's it going, guys? Good? Heaying well. I had a 2031 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,120 Speaker 1: couple of questions, one for Chritz about the draft. You know, 2032 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:25,920 Speaker 1: first of all, I love the first two picks the 2033 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 1: Bills had in the draft. You know, there was all 2034 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,760 Speaker 1: that talk surrounded in DK Metcap and I knew he 2035 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be our first round pick. But when he was 2036 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,880 Speaker 1: hanging around late in the second round, I was hoping 2037 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,439 Speaker 1: Buffalo might trade up for him. I saw Seattle moved 2038 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,080 Speaker 1: up to you know, the thirty second pick in the 2039 01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,040 Speaker 1: second round, and they grabbed him, and they gave up 2040 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,360 Speaker 1: a third round pick which was essentially the same as 2041 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 1: Buffalo's and a Firth rounder. And I was just thinking, 2042 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,639 Speaker 1: was there any talk from Brandon being about possibly moving 2043 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,519 Speaker 1: up to grab him. I mean, I knew he wouldn't 2044 01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,160 Speaker 1: be our first pick. I was hoping that wasn't be 2045 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,519 Speaker 1: the case, but I was thinking, God kind might be 2046 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:03,080 Speaker 1: a big playmaker with Josh Allen, you know, I mean 2047 01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:04,920 Speaker 1: with Robert Foster. I mean, he had a great year 2048 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 1: last year, but you know, I think a lot of 2049 01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 1: his success was attributed to Josh Allen throwing the ball 2050 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 1: down the field to him. So I mean, I just 2051 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: felt like that was a risk that I thought it 2052 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,080 Speaker 1: was worthwhile. So I don't know if there's any talk 2053 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,240 Speaker 1: about that. The second comment I wanted to make was 2054 01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,479 Speaker 1: about tight ends, and we had such a problem, you know, 2055 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,560 Speaker 1: getting these the right guy in there. And you know, 2056 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago we had Nicole Leary and 2057 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: I just loved him. You know, he was just a 2058 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,559 Speaker 1: Buffalo bill through and through. He was a good blocker 2059 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,920 Speaker 1: at great hand kind of a throwback player, and I 2060 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,280 Speaker 1: was just surprised when they kind of demoted him to 2061 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 1: the practice squads and let him go to Miami. Um, 2062 01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,360 Speaker 1: I just thought that was that was a mistake. So 2063 01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can comment on both of those. 2064 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,000 Speaker 1: Shout out to Genesco. I'm also a lum night there 2065 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,640 Speaker 1: we go, all right, all right? So yeah, I mean, 2066 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,120 Speaker 1: I think the DK Metcalf thing, what you should take 2067 01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:57,200 Speaker 1: into account is not so much whether the Bills considered him, 2068 01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 1: but what the league thought of him at the end 2069 01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,760 Speaker 1: of the day. Because Draft Nicks had him as a 2070 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,839 Speaker 1: surefire top half of the first round pick after the combine, 2071 01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,040 Speaker 1: which he lit up from a testing standpoint. I'm not 2072 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,040 Speaker 1: going to deny that for a second. But as we 2073 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: got closer and closer to the draft, some of the 2074 01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,320 Speaker 1: narrative on the part of what NFL teams thought of 2075 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,839 Speaker 1: him started to leak out, and it became very readily 2076 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 1: apparent that he was not even going to be a 2077 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,120 Speaker 1: first round selection by any team in this league. For 2078 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,880 Speaker 1: that matter, he wasn't even a second round selection for 2079 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,880 Speaker 1: any team in this league. So I think when you 2080 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,240 Speaker 1: look at that, you need to say to yourself if 2081 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,679 Speaker 1: this guy is going to be a third round pick. 2082 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,560 Speaker 1: Is he even a number one wide receiver to the 2083 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,000 Speaker 1: thirty two teams in the NFL as they view him. 2084 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't believe he is. So now you say, well, 2085 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,800 Speaker 1: what's his value for you if you're looking for a 2086 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:58,240 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver and he's not that? And I 2087 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,920 Speaker 1: think you know there was a conversation like that in 2088 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 1: a lot of NFL draft rooms about DK Metcalf. Now, 2089 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't be a good player, and 2090 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,360 Speaker 1: maybe not maybe can't even ascend to being a number 2091 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 1: one receiver in time, but he's not that now, and 2092 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:14,960 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of parts of his game that 2093 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:19,080 Speaker 1: he has to diversify in order to be that. Could 2094 01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,800 Speaker 1: he be productive in a specified role in Seattle? Sure, 2095 01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:23,840 Speaker 1: he's got a great quarterback that he's playing with and 2096 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: a team that knows how to run the football and 2097 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: plays decent defense, So we'll have his opportunities and I'm 2098 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,519 Speaker 1: sure he'll make some plays. But I just don't believe 2099 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,479 Speaker 1: that the Bill saw him as a number one wide 2100 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,120 Speaker 1: receiver type prospect. And because of that, I think a 2101 01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 1: lot of their energy was focused elsewhere. And so I 2102 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were dumbfounded when they said, well, 2103 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:46,840 Speaker 1: how did the Bills come out of this draft without 2104 01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,560 Speaker 1: a wide receiver at all, let alone DK Metcalf, And 2105 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 1: I think it was rooted in a couple of things. 2106 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,439 Speaker 1: Number One, they didn't see a true number one wide 2107 01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:57,880 Speaker 1: receiver prospect, and that was proven out by the league 2108 01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:01,240 Speaker 1: only taking Marquis Brown and then Kill Harry in the 2109 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 1: first round at the wide receiver position, that's number one. 2110 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 1: And then number two, If you don't see a bona 2111 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:10,880 Speaker 1: fide number one talent, what you have on this roster 2112 01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:15,320 Speaker 1: right now is stuff that you can work with, and 2113 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,479 Speaker 1: I think the focus shifted to other places like offensive 2114 01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 1: tackle and the former Cody Ford and then tight end, 2115 01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,639 Speaker 1: and again they went with best player on the board, 2116 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,519 Speaker 1: which was the Devin Singletary pick who Daniel Jeremiah had 2117 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,160 Speaker 1: it as a second best running back in the draft, 2118 01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 1: and the Bills get him in the third round of 2119 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: pick seventy four. So I think all of those things 2120 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,320 Speaker 1: were at play there. But I think in looking at 2121 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,800 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and the skill set that he offers, I 2122 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,880 Speaker 1: think the Bills felt they already had that in Robert 2123 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,320 Speaker 1: Foster and may get even more out of Foster here 2124 01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,280 Speaker 1: in year two, which is part of our year two 2125 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,840 Speaker 1: discussion that we're having, then they could get out of 2126 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,280 Speaker 1: dk Metcalf In year one, Choler asked about Nico Leary. 2127 01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel like the Bills are missing much not 2128 01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,040 Speaker 1: having Nico Lear in the roster. I think there was 2129 01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,719 Speaker 1: a deficit of athleticism that probably believe the thought about 2130 01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,360 Speaker 1: one we got guys who can are better athletes and 2131 01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,640 Speaker 1: make bigger place for us. We're not getting that as 2132 01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,560 Speaker 1: much of a quote unquote throwback as fans wanted to 2133 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,080 Speaker 1: consider him. Because he'd never wore gloves and caught the 2134 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 1: football with his bare hands. He was not a great blocker. 2135 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,800 Speaker 1: He was an Oka blocker, and yes he would make 2136 01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,120 Speaker 1: some plays in the interm intermediate areas of the field, 2137 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,760 Speaker 1: and he was a pretty reliable hands catcher. I'll give 2138 01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 1: him all of those things. But I think there was 2139 01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,320 Speaker 1: a limited ceiling there with Nikoleary, who came into the 2140 01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:36,200 Speaker 1: league and kind of was what he was already see 2141 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,360 Speaker 1: six rounders, and that's why and that's why he was 2142 01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:44,960 Speaker 1: a six round picks, limited athletically, limited ceiling, relatively good 2143 01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:48,439 Speaker 1: football IQ to play the game, but if he ever 2144 01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,720 Speaker 1: ascends to anything more than a number two tight end, 2145 01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:54,320 Speaker 1: I would be surprised me too. Um, let's get back 2146 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,599 Speaker 1: to more phone calls talking about two different topics here, 2147 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,240 Speaker 1: which team won the offseason and which second year Bills 2148 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,439 Speaker 1: players prying for a big year. Stephen mcdina, New York. Hello, see, 2149 01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:03,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You're on the air with this, 2150 01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 1: Thanks high fellas. Um. I'm not sure who this team 2151 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,439 Speaker 1: drafted or who they acquired through free agency, but I 2152 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:18,240 Speaker 1: think one team that h did did the best for 2153 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:22,400 Speaker 1: themselves in the off season was the Pittsburgh Steelers, simply 2154 01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,880 Speaker 1: by getting rid of Antonio Brown, and uh, let me 2155 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:30,439 Speaker 1: have bell beyond bell um. Addition, by subtraction, you're thinking, see, 2156 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 1: but but there there's plenty of good football players around 2157 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,000 Speaker 1: and and I think they did themselves a favor by 2158 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:42,240 Speaker 1: getting rid of them. Ten chose a good linebacker from Michigan, 2159 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,200 Speaker 1: Devin Bush in the first round. Addition by subtraction is 2160 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,040 Speaker 1: a is a tough case to make, and I get it. 2161 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,080 Speaker 1: And uh, I think the focus I think, and are 2162 01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 1: you Steelers fan, Steve, is that while you're mentioning them, Uh, yeah, 2163 01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. I grew up for some time in 2164 01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,519 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh area. So I'm still attached to them because 2165 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 1: I think the onus now is on Mike Tomlin to 2166 01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:03,439 Speaker 1: show what kind of a coach he is. He's just 2167 01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 1: they've traded away and let get away to premier players 2168 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:11,639 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I get it. Chemistry means something, 2169 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,280 Speaker 1: character means something. You know, the type of players you 2170 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,599 Speaker 1: want around the building means something. But talent usually wins out, 2171 01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,080 Speaker 1: and they have said goodbye to some really good talent there. 2172 01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,599 Speaker 1: So we'll see. What do you think, Chris, I think 2173 01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,959 Speaker 1: we need to remember the picks that the Steelers acquired 2174 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,360 Speaker 1: in the Antonio Brown trade and what they turned into. 2175 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:33,519 Speaker 1: Justin Lane the corner from Michigan State, good press guy, 2176 01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:38,080 Speaker 1: and then the tight end from Michigan Zach Gentry. Those 2177 01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:42,200 Speaker 1: are their two picks that they got from Oakland in 2178 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 1: the trade. So it's going to be interesting to track 2179 01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,200 Speaker 1: those guys careers because they will forever be linked as 2180 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 1: part of the Antonio Brown trade. I agree with you. 2181 01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:55,160 Speaker 1: I love the Devin Bush pick. The Steelers are notorious 2182 01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 1: for taking wide receivers out of the Mid American Conference, 2183 01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:03,000 Speaker 1: and they did it again this year. Antonio Brown came 2184 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,200 Speaker 1: out of the Mid American Conference, and there are other 2185 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:06,880 Speaker 1: examples that are slipping in my mind right now. But 2186 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,400 Speaker 1: they take Deonte Johnson out of Toledo with their second 2187 01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:12,120 Speaker 1: round pick, and it's gonna be interesting to see what 2188 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,840 Speaker 1: he develops into running behind Juju Smith Schuster. But you 2189 01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,879 Speaker 1: look at their free agency, pretty team in free agency, 2190 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,400 Speaker 1: as is usually the case for that team. But Stephen 2191 01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,920 Speaker 1: Nelson's a good corner that they signed to a three 2192 01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,439 Speaker 1: year deal. They take the hybrid safety that turned into 2193 01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:31,360 Speaker 1: a linebacker with the Rams and Mark Baron because they 2194 01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,640 Speaker 1: were trying to find an answer in the absence of 2195 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Shay's ear. But now they appear to have that 2196 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,200 Speaker 1: with their first round draft choice. And they also signed 2197 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 1: very quietly Dante Moncrief away from Jacksonville after he flamed 2198 01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,880 Speaker 1: out in Jacksonville with no real quarterback there. I would 2199 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,320 Speaker 1: anticipate he could have a nice bounce back here for them, 2200 01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,880 Speaker 1: presumably landing the number two receiver role behind Smith Schuster 2201 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 1: in that receiving corps with Ben throw in the football. 2202 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,640 Speaker 1: To Steve's point, didn't they have a good offseason. I 2203 01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,560 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think they had all world offseason. 2204 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,960 Speaker 1: That's going to put them in this conversation. But they 2205 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:05,680 Speaker 1: did what the Steelers typically do, which is kind of 2206 01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:10,240 Speaker 1: restocked quietly, rely on the draft. Draft well, and along 2207 01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,040 Speaker 1: they go. I don't know if they typically cut loose 2208 01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,920 Speaker 1: premier players that that was. Those were unusual and because 2209 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 1: better there were issues with both of them. Yeah, those 2210 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,160 Speaker 1: were extenuating circumstances. But they don't They didn't miss Levon 2211 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,200 Speaker 1: Bell last year. James Connor ran from more yards and 2212 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,800 Speaker 1: he did the next year. So I mean, I don't 2213 01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 1: think they're hurting there. Antonio Brown's playmaking ability, Yes, I 2214 01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,320 Speaker 1: think they will miss that. I think they will. I 2215 01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 1: think Smith Schuster will be productive. I just don't think 2216 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,680 Speaker 1: he's going to reach the level of production that Antonio 2217 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,720 Speaker 1: Brown hits. Here's a call from Jim and the Latoana. Hello, Jim, 2218 01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,880 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Yes, I was wondering 2219 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:48,960 Speaker 1: if you two guys can put together, excuse me, a 2220 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,760 Speaker 1: Bill's all time bus team positioned by position, In other words, 2221 01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,240 Speaker 1: guys with the talent, But who turned up to the 2222 01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,559 Speaker 1: bus positioned by position? Who do you got in mind? 2223 01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:05,280 Speaker 1: Jim Oh, the guy they drafted from Norah Damn Walt Patulski. 2224 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 1: Was he a defensive end or a tight end, defensive tackle, 2225 01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,679 Speaker 1: defensive tech? I think, okay, we'll put him in. He's 2226 01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,479 Speaker 1: on your list. Who else, Jim? Anybody? I mean, you 2227 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:15,800 Speaker 1: want us to do the work. That's a lot of 2228 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 1: hard work. I don't know if I'm up for that. 2229 01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,320 Speaker 1: And what will we get out of it except misery 2230 01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:26,200 Speaker 1: and recriminations. Chris and I would fight. It would bring 2231 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,800 Speaker 1: back like Press and Ride Hooper. No, he wasn't a bust. 2232 01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,680 Speaker 1: He was barely on the roster. All right, thanks, Jim. 2233 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:34,840 Speaker 1: Let's kick another call here. Let's go to Bob and 2234 01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,080 Speaker 1: cheek Towaga. What are you laughing about? Why are you 2235 01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 1: laughing at me? I love when you're at odds with callers. 2236 01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,720 Speaker 1: I just didn't make a whole lot of sense. You 2237 01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,800 Speaker 1: put Aaron maybe on that list? Sure he could. Yeah, 2238 01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,720 Speaker 1: there's there's no you know, Mike Williams, do you want 2239 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,599 Speaker 1: to start right? Where are we going with that though? 2240 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,840 Speaker 1: Where we're off and running now? Bob and cheek Towaga, Hi, 2241 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:56,320 Speaker 1: you're on the air alight, guys? How are you why? 2242 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,400 Speaker 1: A tower is gonna be the way he was fighting? 2243 01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,760 Speaker 1: He was getting better, better, I think that guy's going 2244 01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,920 Speaker 1: to be a starter. I know they've brought in a 2245 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,599 Speaker 1: lot of players, but I think he's gonna be one 2246 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,400 Speaker 1: of the better ones in our old division. He's got 2247 01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,240 Speaker 1: some stiff competition. I like his uh, the edge that 2248 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,240 Speaker 1: he plays with. You know, he likes finishing people, and 2249 01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,479 Speaker 1: that's going to earn him points with Bobby Johnson, the 2250 01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:22,320 Speaker 1: new offensive line coach. But let's let's face facts here. 2251 01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got multiple guys with starting experience, Spencer Long, 2252 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:30,960 Speaker 1: Quentin Span, I think Teller. There's a good chance he's 2253 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:32,719 Speaker 1: gonna flip over to the right side, where he played 2254 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,400 Speaker 1: most of his college ball after playing left guard at 2255 01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,080 Speaker 1: the end of last year. So hopefully that helps his 2256 01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,320 Speaker 1: cause because it's a more familiar position to him based 2257 01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:46,920 Speaker 1: on experience. But he's got stiff competition. I mean, Spencer 2258 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,120 Speaker 1: Long's got a lot of starts in this league, and 2259 01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:52,439 Speaker 1: so does Quentin Span and John Feliciano. Granted he didn't 2260 01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,120 Speaker 1: play a lot of games, but he was playing behind 2261 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,439 Speaker 1: pro bowlers in Oakland. He couldn't get on the field. 2262 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, but that's Hey, it's a good 2263 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,400 Speaker 1: problem to have. Ran Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it is. I 2264 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,599 Speaker 1: just think he's a big boy and look out. All right, 2265 01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,559 Speaker 1: thanks Bob, We're gonna take a break Christmas. Second player 2266 01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,360 Speaker 1: to throw in the mix. Didn't get any love, you know, 2267 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,439 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace. You know who we're also forgetting about. Haven't 2268 01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:20,240 Speaker 1: mentioned him yet? Who Corey? I feel like we didn't 2269 01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:21,920 Speaker 1: get enough of him in his first year? Yeah? Is 2270 01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,040 Speaker 1: this his second year? It is? It is. I think 2271 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:25,920 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace is a good addition to that. Let's two. 2272 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:27,800 Speaker 1: You brought him up a minute ago. All right, we'll 2273 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,960 Speaker 1: talk more about that. Which second year Bills player prime 2274 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,680 Speaker 1: for a breakout in his second year? And who won 2275 01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,000 Speaker 1: the offseason? Which NFL team, maybe other than the Bills. 2276 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:36,840 Speaker 1: Give us a call, Chris and I coming back with 2277 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,559 Speaker 1: NFL true or false? Also One Bills Live from One 2278 01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 1: Bills Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. It's one of Bills Live. 2279 01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,560 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills inside a Buffalo Bills dot Com is 2280 01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,640 Speaker 1: with us. Steve Tasker on vacation for the rest of 2281 01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:01,080 Speaker 1: this week. He happy to have you with us. Give 2282 01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:02,800 Speaker 1: us a call. Lines open a couple of topics on 2283 01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,840 Speaker 1: the table. Which second your player is prime for a 2284 01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,479 Speaker 1: breakout in year two? And which NFL team has won 2285 01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,120 Speaker 1: the offseason. We'll take your phone calls, your tweets, your 2286 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,640 Speaker 1: comments at eight O three five fifty toll free one 2287 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You can 2288 01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,559 Speaker 1: tweet them in at one Bills Live. Chris uh lead 2289 01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:22,519 Speaker 1: journalists NFL Inset or Buffalo Bills dot Com. I read 2290 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,080 Speaker 1: your piece that was posted yesterday Chris on Devin Singletary 2291 01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,600 Speaker 1: on the website how heartbreak motivated Devil Devin Singletary to 2292 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,840 Speaker 1: become a electrifying running back. He had a really strong, 2293 01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,080 Speaker 1: good relationship with the guy who was what a year 2294 01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,120 Speaker 1: or two ahead of him at the high school Atlantic 2295 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:40,360 Speaker 1: in high school, Okay, at the charter school American Heritage, Yep. 2296 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:45,360 Speaker 1: Greg Bryant, who was a really dynamic running back, played 2297 01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,240 Speaker 1: the same position a little bit bigger, certainly a lot 2298 01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:51,360 Speaker 1: faster than Devin on his stop Watch, and he was 2299 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:56,120 Speaker 1: getting recruited by giants schools Georgia, Auburn, Notre Dame, Oklahoma. 2300 01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,760 Speaker 1: Ends up going to Notre Dame, kind of washes out 2301 01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 1: due to academics, comes back to South Florida, goes to 2302 01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:07,040 Speaker 1: junior college to get his academics right. Then accepts a 2303 01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,880 Speaker 1: scholarship offer from UAB. He's all set to go to 2304 01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:14,440 Speaker 1: UAB the following fall, and then he's shot and killed 2305 01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,280 Speaker 1: in a car on ninety five on Mother's Day weekend. Actually, 2306 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:22,120 Speaker 1: the three or three year anniversary is today of his passing. 2307 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:27,440 Speaker 1: So for Devon that was a crusher because he called 2308 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,080 Speaker 1: him his big brother. He was a super mentor to 2309 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:34,720 Speaker 1: Devin there and so ever since. Then before games, he 2310 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,680 Speaker 1: basically says a prayer. He says a prayer and asks 2311 01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,640 Speaker 1: his grandmother to protect him, and then he asks Greg 2312 01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 1: Bryant to play through him when he steps on the field. 2313 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,320 Speaker 1: And if you look at his college production, that happened 2314 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,480 Speaker 1: and then some you know, sixty seven career touchdown, sixty 2315 01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,960 Speaker 1: six of him on the ground, almost forty three hundred 2316 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,840 Speaker 1: yards in his career rushing. I think he was second 2317 01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 1: in the nation in total yards from scrimmage as in 2318 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:03,320 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and wasn't that far off in twenty eighteen. 2319 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:08,040 Speaker 1: So dynamic player just has contact balance and vision that 2320 01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:12,440 Speaker 1: is rare, and I think he's gonna be a really 2321 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,480 Speaker 1: good player for this team. I was really he might 2322 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,560 Speaker 1: be the pick I liked the most in the entire draft. 2323 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I really like it Oliver, and I wanted 2324 01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,120 Speaker 1: him to pick him at nine, So I was glad 2325 01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 1: when that happened, But that was kind of already on 2326 01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,200 Speaker 1: the brain. Ye, And I think because of the unexpected 2327 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,760 Speaker 1: nature of this pick is why I got so excited 2328 01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,400 Speaker 1: about it. Because he was one of my two favorite 2329 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,040 Speaker 1: running backs in the draft, him and David Montgomery from 2330 01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,600 Speaker 1: Iowa State. So for the Bills to get him, I 2331 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: was really happy. Devin Singletary's relationship with his former high 2332 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,880 Speaker 1: school teammate a big part of Chris's article. But you 2333 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,080 Speaker 1: did talk a lot about Singletary, and I love the quote. 2334 01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,920 Speaker 1: Chris writes this, If Brandon Bean thought Singletary's fautape was 2335 01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:49,440 Speaker 1: fun to watch, you may want to track down his 2336 01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,280 Speaker 1: literal league tape when he was with the Deerfield Packer 2337 01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,760 Speaker 1: Rattlers in South Florida. Tell me what you found out 2338 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 1: about that. It's ridiculous. Did you see it? I saw 2339 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,560 Speaker 1: he saw one minute clip. Because I cannot find the 2340 01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,360 Speaker 1: stuff that his high school coach was telling me to 2341 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,440 Speaker 1: look for. I don't think it's out there anymore, but 2342 01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,640 Speaker 1: I managed to dig up a one minute clip he 2343 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:12,280 Speaker 1: made four kids fall down on one play. Like, granted, 2344 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,760 Speaker 1: the coordination isn't all there when you're ten, eleven and 2345 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,280 Speaker 1: twelve and you got this ten pound helmet on your 2346 01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,240 Speaker 1: head and you know you look like a bobblehead doll. 2347 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 1: But I mean he's just bobbing and weaving in and 2348 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:24,120 Speaker 1: out of I mean it just it looked silly. It 2349 01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,040 Speaker 1: was like a game of tag and nobody could catch 2350 01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,680 Speaker 1: him and just kids flopping all over. There was one 2351 01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,240 Speaker 1: kid that fell down twice on the play, trying to 2352 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,320 Speaker 1: get him like he dove for him and grabbed nothing 2353 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:34,960 Speaker 1: but air. He got up, tried to get him again, 2354 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,920 Speaker 1: missed again, fell down. It was just you're laughing. It's 2355 01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,320 Speaker 1: just it's a sterical. It's a good it's a good piece. 2356 01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,600 Speaker 1: Chris has up on our website, Buffalo bills dot com 2357 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:45,560 Speaker 1: how a heartbreak motivated Devin single theory to become an 2358 01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,000 Speaker 1: electrifying running back. Chris has been motivated by one of 2359 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,440 Speaker 1: our callers last segments said, you guys should do a 2360 01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,240 Speaker 1: list of the Bills all time draft bus. I want 2361 01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,600 Speaker 1: to know part of that. I would get the press. 2362 01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,880 Speaker 1: I would get bummed out about the history. It's fun, 2363 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,120 Speaker 1: it's good for Chris has gone to work during the break. 2364 01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure the former GMS don't appreciate it is in 2365 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:07,440 Speaker 1: any capacity. What do you know? I have to say this, 2366 01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,680 Speaker 1: the Bills have done pretty well over the years at 2367 01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,160 Speaker 1: a couple of specific positions where they really haven't had, 2368 01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, the traditional busts, if you will, running back. 2369 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:22,360 Speaker 1: Running back is one, cornerbacks another, and linebacker. They've done 2370 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,920 Speaker 1: pretty well on linebacker over the years too, So it's 2371 01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:30,080 Speaker 1: hard to find, uh, poor choices there. But defensive end, 2372 01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,240 Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Maybe and Eric Flowers, both first round 2373 01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:39,280 Speaker 1: picks that did nothing. U wide receiver. I went James 2374 01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,040 Speaker 1: Hardy second rounder, right right. I went Bucky Brooks because 2375 01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:44,960 Speaker 1: he didn't do very well and then had to stay 2376 01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:46,800 Speaker 1: in the league as a defensive back. He couldn't even 2377 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,880 Speaker 1: stay at wide receiver. Um, those are in Bucky Burt's case. 2378 01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,520 Speaker 1: That was a late late second round. Yeah, defensive tackle 2379 01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,680 Speaker 1: wal Potolski, which was already offered up along with John maccargo. 2380 01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:01,360 Speaker 1: UM trading up for John McCargo. That was rough. Think 2381 01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:05,000 Speaker 1: about this, okay, Kyle Williams was taking four rounds later. 2382 01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,960 Speaker 1: Good history on that, Good takes on that Kyle Williams. Yeah, 2383 01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:14,720 Speaker 1: and then you mentioned Mike Williams at offensive tackle, number 2384 01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,520 Speaker 1: four pick in the draft. Just didn't have it in here. 2385 01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,480 Speaker 1: Um convinced the only played football because he was big 2386 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:24,280 Speaker 1: and strong. Uh, safety got Trevars Tillman, and Matt Stevens. 2387 01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:25,800 Speaker 1: Matt Stevens might be a little bit of a reach. 2388 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:27,640 Speaker 1: He was a third round pick. Someone was a second round, 2389 01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,200 Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, near the top of the second round. Yeah, 2390 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,920 Speaker 1: that was a miss, um. Matt Stevens was third huh. Yeah, 2391 01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,600 Speaker 1: he got chances too. Yeah, he did get opportunities and 2392 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,720 Speaker 1: didn't make the most of them. So but that down there, 2393 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:44,160 Speaker 1: what you were and Matt Stevens ninety seven eight somewhere 2394 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,280 Speaker 1: in there, I want to say, all right, but you know, 2395 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,560 Speaker 1: it is what it is. It is what it is. 2396 01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:55,000 Speaker 1: Clearly motivated six nine seventy six. Matt Stevens. Chris was 2397 01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:57,240 Speaker 1: clearly motivated by the caller. I want another just a 2398 01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,440 Speaker 1: fun little thing to do while we're passing the time 2399 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,320 Speaker 1: on the choked the negativity on the show, Chris dives 2400 02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,440 Speaker 1: right in and dwells in it. Well, I'll dwell in it, 2401 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,720 Speaker 1: but I'll spend some time if you want you did. Yeah, 2402 02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:10,480 Speaker 1: and now I feel worse that you did. He'll be okay. 2403 02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,960 Speaker 1: A couple of top I'm fine, which second year player 2404 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,000 Speaker 1: for the Bill's prime for a breakout year in their 2405 02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:17,400 Speaker 1: second year and which seems one day offseason. We'll take 2406 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,000 Speaker 1: your comments on that. A few minutes left ear in 2407 02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,520 Speaker 1: phone line's open A couple of tweets from the tweet 2408 02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:24,839 Speaker 1: sheet second year player from Austin. With the new additions 2409 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,000 Speaker 1: to the wide receiver group, look for Robert Foster to 2410 02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:30,200 Speaker 1: have a monster season while focus from other defenses will 2411 02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:32,320 Speaker 1: shift from him to the new additions. All this will 2412 02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,920 Speaker 1: only motivate him further. And he has proven to have 2413 02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:38,200 Speaker 1: a great connection brewing with Alan. That's the partner I 2414 02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:40,400 Speaker 1: mentioned maybe an hour ago last hour on the show 2415 02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,360 Speaker 1: about the potential for Robert Foster to be to have 2416 02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:48,120 Speaker 1: a huge year, and it is the connection with Alan 2417 02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:51,880 Speaker 1: and the other additions, most notably Colbeasley and John Brown. 2418 02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:54,560 Speaker 1: There's a chance that that could be a really, really 2419 02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:57,000 Speaker 1: good second year. There is a Day two draft choice 2420 02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:00,800 Speaker 1: who has not been mentioned yet this year. Last year's 2421 02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:04,680 Speaker 1: Day two draft choice, Harrison Phillips. Yeah, what do we 2422 02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 1: think is the I don't know what's the forecast for him? 2423 02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Because he's still gonna be presumably behind Star Latoula on 2424 02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the depth chart because he is more of a nose 2425 02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:18,600 Speaker 1: than a three technique. Yep, Um, what do we forecast 2426 02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:21,160 Speaker 1: for Well? I don't know. If I will look at 2427 02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,720 Speaker 1: the wartime on the field, No, A, you're gonna say 2428 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,440 Speaker 1: it's for that group, even for Ed Oliver. It's kind 2429 02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:29,080 Speaker 1: of all about the uh, the rotation, right, Yeah, who 2430 02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:30,440 Speaker 1: you know we were talking about? I think you and 2431 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I want to say Harrison got about thirty eight to 2432 02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:35,560 Speaker 1: forty percent of the snaps last year. Let's have a look, 2433 02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,200 Speaker 1: um that nobody had. I looked this up the other day. 2434 02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,760 Speaker 1: Nobody had more than sixty five percent of the snaps 2435 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:44,400 Speaker 1: last year on the defensive line. Um, Jerry Hughes got 2436 02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:47,920 Speaker 1: sixty six percent. Okay, Kyle got sixty five percent. Um, 2437 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,280 Speaker 1: and you asked about Harrison Phillips got thirty eight percent 2438 02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:53,960 Speaker 1: of thirty eight. That's what I thought. But that's I 2439 02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:55,960 Speaker 1: would not look for a whole on more snaps for 2440 02:01:56,040 --> 02:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, would you know? Um? Because you can make 2441 02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:03,440 Speaker 1: the argument that even in you know, those goal line 2442 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:06,520 Speaker 1: situations or short yard situations that it might be Star 2443 02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:13,240 Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips, you know, not Harrison fa So he's 2444 02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna fight to get more playing time. 2445 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that for a second. But that's gonna 2446 02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,480 Speaker 1: be a tough lineup to crack to earn more time 2447 02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:23,200 Speaker 1: on the field. And if you're not on the field, 2448 02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of make a jump and show hey, 2449 02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:28,640 Speaker 1: I've improved, I'm better. Look at me, you know. I 2450 02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,120 Speaker 1: think he's got one of the tougher rows to hoe 2451 02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,440 Speaker 1: here of this whole group for the second year player. Yeah. 2452 02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:35,600 Speaker 1: A couple of other tweets on this which second year 2453 02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:38,760 Speaker 1: player prime for a breakout? Michael tweets this, and Jason 2454 02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:42,400 Speaker 1: Krum although is the second year I guess he is. Yeah, 2455 02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,400 Speaker 1: I'd have to look what he is for a crude seasons, 2456 02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Not only did he start showing an 2457 02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:49,720 Speaker 1: ability to get downfield and catch last year, his wham 2458 02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:51,440 Speaker 1: blocks in the running game were a joy to watch. 2459 02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,080 Speaker 1: Winning the offseason conditioning is a good sign too. He 2460 02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:58,480 Speaker 1: is winning rave reviews from I heard Brandon Bean speaking 2461 02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:00,480 Speaker 1: to a group of fans last week talking about what 2462 02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:04,720 Speaker 1: a good first couple of weeks Jason Crumers. He doesn't work, 2463 02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:07,560 Speaker 1: he's not afraid of working hard. And that's going to 2464 02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:09,440 Speaker 1: earn your points in this locker room and in this 2465 02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,040 Speaker 1: with this coaching staff. And I gotta say for a 2466 02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:17,280 Speaker 1: guy who is a converted wide receiver, he has really 2467 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:19,920 Speaker 1: made strides in the blocking game. I still don't think 2468 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,000 Speaker 1: he's great at a block as a blocker, but he 2469 02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:27,800 Speaker 1: is certainly much improved in that area. And uh, it's 2470 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,600 Speaker 1: it's come from nothing but working hard at it every 2471 02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:34,080 Speaker 1: single day. Uh. And good for him. And you know, 2472 02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,200 Speaker 1: if he can be an even bigger contributor this year 2473 02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:40,520 Speaker 1: and do more than flash, you know every game War 2474 02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:44,200 Speaker 1: two or three, Uh, than the Bill's tight end position 2475 02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:46,800 Speaker 1: is better for it. And on our other question of 2476 02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the day, which team won the offseason? A couple of 2477 02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Intercene tweets. Brian Greer tweets this in he said, call 2478 02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:57,000 Speaker 1: me crazy, but I selected the Cardinals. I don't think 2479 02:03:57,040 --> 02:03:59,200 Speaker 1: they were as bad as they look last year. They 2480 02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:04,320 Speaker 1: picked up a new coach, had a solid draft. Excuse me, 2481 02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:06,240 Speaker 1: they picked up their quarterback in the future. Plus I 2482 02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:09,640 Speaker 1: think depicts of Isabella and Butler were very solid sleeper 2483 02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:11,720 Speaker 1: team in my opinion, you know who I just thought 2484 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:13,520 Speaker 1: of it now, the guy who's got a tougher task 2485 02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:18,160 Speaker 1: than Harrison Phillips to show they're better. Ray Ray McLeod. Yeah, 2486 02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:20,840 Speaker 1: that guy's got a tough one, not only at the 2487 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,280 Speaker 1: receiver position, but even at special teams because he got 2488 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,040 Speaker 1: a look, you know, as a return man, and now 2489 02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,280 Speaker 1: they've got Andre Roberts. He may never get another look 2490 02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:30,200 Speaker 1: at I mean man, Yeah, well, yeah, and he had 2491 02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:32,000 Speaker 1: a rough go of it last year. He had you know, 2492 02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:35,320 Speaker 1: the yips a little bit on returns and then he 2493 02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,080 Speaker 1: never saw a return duty again. And now you look 2494 02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:40,720 Speaker 1: at all the additions at receiver, it's gonna be a 2495 02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:44,720 Speaker 1: tough road for him too to make an impact and 2496 02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:46,640 Speaker 1: earn a spot on this roster. Let alone make a 2497 02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,720 Speaker 1: jump in year too. All right, Time now for two 2498 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:51,880 Speaker 1: or false. Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's 2499 02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,880 Speaker 1: artists and Cheese True false. And we talked about the 2500 02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Browns a lot today when we talk about which team 2501 02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:59,840 Speaker 1: won the NFL offseason two or false Odell Beckham, He said, 2502 02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham will help make the Browns the new Patriots. 2503 02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Two or false Chris False, Come on, you're gonna go 2504 02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,520 Speaker 1: from being a perennial loser to an eight seven and 2505 02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:13,360 Speaker 1: one season to being the Patriots. It doesn't work that way. 2506 02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:16,480 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, You're not the guy that's 2507 02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it. It's gonna be Baker Mayfield that does it. 2508 02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,760 Speaker 1: If anybody so false with a capital F, I'm going 2509 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:24,640 Speaker 1: false here too. Yeah. I mean the Patriots are the 2510 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Patriots because essentially because of two people, the quarterback Tom Brady, 2511 02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,040 Speaker 1: who Baker Mayfield's pretty good, we don't know if he's 2512 02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Brady like. And the coach. We don't know anything about 2513 02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:36,680 Speaker 1: a Kitchens. The coach. We know that Bill Belichick is 2514 02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:38,560 Speaker 1: one of the best coaches of all time. That's a 2515 02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:41,760 Speaker 1: big false. Stability is the key to the Patriots. You 2516 02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,160 Speaker 1: don't have that yet in Cleveland. This came up on 2517 02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:48,840 Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. The Saints will miss the playoffs in 2518 02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:52,080 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I'm going false on this. I don't think 2519 02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:55,880 Speaker 1: there's you know that division. I don't think is improved dramatically. 2520 02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,800 Speaker 1: I think the Saints. As much as I am not 2521 02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,560 Speaker 1: a fan of of the head coach, I think he's 2522 02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:03,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good head coach. I'm a big fan of 2523 02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback Drew Brees. I think they have essentially the 2524 02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:08,400 Speaker 1: same group back there, and yet I think the Saints 2525 02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,040 Speaker 1: will make the playoffs. I think look a year ago, 2526 02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,680 Speaker 1: at this time two years ago, I thought they were 2527 02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:14,600 Speaker 1: the best team in the league, and they got beat 2528 02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:19,800 Speaker 1: on a miraculous finish in Minnesota in the playoffs. Last year. Yeah, 2529 02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:21,640 Speaker 1: you would argue, and you'd probably be right that they 2530 02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:25,800 Speaker 1: got refereed out of a spot in the Super Bowl. 2531 02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,240 Speaker 1: So I don't see any big dropoff. I do think 2532 02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:31,000 Speaker 1: them make the playoffs. They wear they still have Michael Thomas, 2533 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,760 Speaker 1: and they still have Alvin Kamara, and their defense was 2534 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:39,040 Speaker 1: much improved last year. So I'm sorry they're making the playoffs. 2535 02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is false every way, every 2536 02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:44,880 Speaker 1: day of the week. Yeah, finally, NFL true or false. 2537 02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:47,520 Speaker 1: And this deals with the Jets and Letty on Bell. 2538 02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,880 Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday with rich Samini how he 2539 02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,720 Speaker 1: has skipped out on the voluntary offseason workhouse. He went 2540 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,000 Speaker 1: on social media, let me on Bell and said, when 2541 02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:57,200 Speaker 1: it signed playing football, I gotta stick to the formula 2542 02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:59,200 Speaker 1: that I know works for me to be the best 2543 02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:01,440 Speaker 1: player I can be. That's called sitting on the couch. 2544 02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to win football games. I want to ring. 2545 02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,040 Speaker 1: He's talking to talk. Yeah, I don't think he walks 2546 02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,040 Speaker 1: the walk though. He went to the first week of 2547 02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:12,880 Speaker 1: voluntary workouts and has not attended since. Adam Gates was 2548 02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:16,040 Speaker 1: asked about it. He said it's voluntary. Bell was here 2549 02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:17,800 Speaker 1: the first one. What's the coach gonna say, right, I 2550 02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,920 Speaker 1: can't really, but you know, he got the big contract, 2551 02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:23,600 Speaker 1: four years, fifty two million dollars, twenty seven million dollars 2552 02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:26,400 Speaker 1: and fully guaranteed money. He did not play last year. 2553 02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:29,080 Speaker 1: You would think it would behoove him to be around 2554 02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:31,400 Speaker 1: there at the Jets for the offseason workouts. He's decided 2555 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,480 Speaker 1: to stick to his formula true or false. LEVI on 2556 02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Bells should stick to the formula that works for him. 2557 02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:37,560 Speaker 1: I say false. Didn't work for him as far as 2558 02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:40,000 Speaker 1: money last years, skipping out a year and missing out 2559 02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 1: all that money. So I think he's you know, he's 2560 02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,080 Speaker 1: getting really well paid by the Jets. He needs to 2561 02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:47,520 Speaker 1: demonstrate that that is money well spent. And I say 2562 02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,560 Speaker 1: false for a completely different reason because what's worked for 2563 02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:54,880 Speaker 1: him has worked because he was playing for a team 2564 02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that has uncommon stability in this league that just operates 2565 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,760 Speaker 1: and function as normal, you know, as normal as any 2566 02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,520 Speaker 1: team could and does it at a high level. The 2567 02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Jets are not that. He's gonna find out real fast 2568 02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:11,400 Speaker 1: that the Jets are not the Steelers, and it's going 2569 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:13,880 Speaker 1: to be a route awakening. If he continues going with 2570 02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:18,160 Speaker 1: the formula that's worked for him, He's gonna struggle because 2571 02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,720 Speaker 1: you better get used to running behind this line and 2572 02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:23,160 Speaker 1: getting as much practice in with them as possible, because 2573 02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,840 Speaker 1: if you don't, it's gonna be up a creek without 2574 02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:30,000 Speaker 1: a paddle for him and the struggle kids start Falls Falls, Falls, Falls. 2575 02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:33,240 Speaker 1: Struggle could start opening day, September eight, Right, That would 2576 02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,560 Speaker 1: be nice, wouldn't I'd enjoy that? Yeah, there you go. 2577 02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:37,920 Speaker 1: NFL tru False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New 2578 02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,240 Speaker 1: York's Artists and Cheese, Chris and I Coming Back. One 2579 02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's read 2580 02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:57,800 Speaker 1: what have we learned from today's show. It is brought 2581 02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:00,200 Speaker 1: to you by Advanced Alarm, providing Western New York's homes 2582 02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:03,760 Speaker 1: and businesses with the finance and security and Home Theater 2583 02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:06,320 Speaker 1: the preferred alarment Home Theater provider of the Buffalo Bills, 2584 02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson on the show with Us Today. The Bill 2585 02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:11,440 Speaker 1: seventh Round picked from North Carolina, A and T, the 2586 02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,960 Speaker 1: same schools in program that produced Bears running back Teriq 2587 02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:16,800 Speaker 1: Collon a couple of years ago. They're close, they know 2588 02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,360 Speaker 1: each other, and Daryl Johnson said, right after he was 2589 02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,840 Speaker 1: drafted by the Bills, he got a call from Teriq 2590 02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:26,280 Speaker 1: calling the Bears running back. Oh yeah, man, he was. 2591 02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:30,040 Speaker 1: He was excited and said reside him. And he said that, uh, 2592 02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, the job isn't done. Um, that I had 2593 02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:35,680 Speaker 1: to continue to work because basically he's saying that I 2594 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:38,440 Speaker 1: was an underdog. I'm an underdog coming into this because 2595 02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I from you know, came from a smaller school. So 2596 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:42,880 Speaker 1: he was like, well, you know, you gotta work. And 2597 02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of shoot that in because I 2598 02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:47,560 Speaker 1: mean I always worked, you know, so that wasn't a 2599 02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:49,480 Speaker 1: big thing to me. So I'm not worried about my 2600 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,040 Speaker 1: work that secnd you know, things like that. But he, 2601 02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's excited. He said, you are too. We 2602 02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,760 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta turn up, you know. So that's what 2603 02:09:56,840 --> 02:10:01,160 Speaker 1: we we're playing on doing. That's what he plans on doing. 2604 02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,680 Speaker 1: Terie Cohen talking to Darrell Johnson. Also on the show, today, 2605 02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:07,200 Speaker 1: we talked with Bob McManaman. He is the beat reporter 2606 02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:10,440 Speaker 1: covering the Arizona Cardinals for the Arizona Republic, and we 2607 02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:14,000 Speaker 1: asked him about the Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray and what 2608 02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:19,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals hope to get from him. The most dynamic player, 2609 02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:22,880 Speaker 1: at least athletic person in his draft was Kyler Murray. 2610 02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Without question. Is he the safest pick? No, he's not. 2611 02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:32,920 Speaker 1: But is he a potential game changing, landscape changing player 2612 02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,080 Speaker 1: to the NFL. You bet you thought your buddy is. 2613 02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:38,160 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see him from the ground 2614 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:41,960 Speaker 1: floor build it up. And with Kingsbury running the show 2615 02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:45,120 Speaker 1: and Kyler doing what he does, he is one of 2616 02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:47,480 Speaker 1: the best dual threat quarterbacks you will ever find. It. 2617 02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,520 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see, you know, just 2618 02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,600 Speaker 1: how quickly he gets it. We thought the Cardinals were 2619 02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:57,000 Speaker 1: a pretty interesting team that maybe could buy for the 2620 02:10:57,320 --> 02:11:00,400 Speaker 1: title of the winner of the NFL offseason, But we 2621 02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:02,920 Speaker 1: took a poll and it turns out not so. Our 2622 02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:06,400 Speaker 1: poll question what other NFL team besides the Bills has 2623 02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:08,920 Speaker 1: one in the offseason this year? Eighty two percent of 2624 02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I respond and said the Cleveland Browns the obvious choice. 2625 02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:16,240 Speaker 1: I guess, seven percent said the Jet six percent said 2626 02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:19,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders, only five percent said the Cardinals. I get it. 2627 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,280 Speaker 1: They're getting all the publicity, they're getting all the notoriety. 2628 02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's said obvious so Chris and 2629 02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I my expectations or the Browns, I think are much 2630 02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,560 Speaker 1: lower than many people are. I just don't know that 2631 02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:32,880 Speaker 1: it's going to happen for him this year. Yeah, the 2632 02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Bills get him. What November tenth sounds right? Is that right? Yep? 2633 02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:40,080 Speaker 1: So for me, that's unfortunate for one reason because by 2634 02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:41,840 Speaker 1: then they might have all their ducks in a row. 2635 02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,360 Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of team with all their hoop law. 2636 02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:47,040 Speaker 1: You want to kind of get them early before they're organized, 2637 02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I hear you, And you have a better chance of 2638 02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:51,720 Speaker 1: beating them because that's is that road game, right, Yeah, 2639 02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:55,280 Speaker 1: it's it's in Cleveland. So I'd much rather get them 2640 02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:56,600 Speaker 1: in the first half of the year. But you know, 2641 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,280 Speaker 1: you play who you gotta play when you gotta play them. Um, 2642 02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gonna be interesting. I think if 2643 02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:05,600 Speaker 1: things don't go according to plan, I'm going to be 2644 02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:09,720 Speaker 1: curious to see who starts raising a stink, who starts, 2645 02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, acting like a cry baby, and how Freddy 2646 02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Kinchens handles all of that, because that's that's an often 2647 02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:19,440 Speaker 1: overlooked dynamic. People just look at the talent on the 2648 02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:21,280 Speaker 1: paper and say, you know, this team's got it made 2649 02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:23,640 Speaker 1: in the shade, and then you don't know what kind 2650 02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:26,360 Speaker 1: of grouse sending is going on behind closed doors and 2651 02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:30,160 Speaker 1: how that impacts a team. Remember ten at Cleveland one PM. Yeah, 2652 02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's why we get we all get 2653 02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:34,200 Speaker 1: caught up, and it's because of the I think the 2654 02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:35,760 Speaker 1: time of the year. We all get caught up in 2655 02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:39,200 Speaker 1: talent acquisition, right, And that's how we measure these teams 2656 02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,800 Speaker 1: against each other in the offseason, especially when you just 2657 02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:43,520 Speaker 1: come off the draft in a month or so before 2658 02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that free agency. But it's you would I think Bills 2659 02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:48,840 Speaker 1: fans get this. It's about more. You know, they're not 2660 02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:51,800 Speaker 1: just collecting talent, right, Beanis said at mcdermots said, they're 2661 02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:54,320 Speaker 1: not collecting talent trying to build a team. Look, the 2662 02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:57,280 Speaker 1: Browns have collected some impressive pieces, but how's that team 2663 02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,320 Speaker 1: building going. I don't know that it's a lock that 2664 02:12:59,480 --> 02:13:02,120 Speaker 1: that collect and if talent becomes a really good team automatically, 2665 02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,880 Speaker 1: I know it didn't exist under the previous coach. Yeah, 2666 02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:09,520 Speaker 1: that's for sure. I mean, good grief that was. I 2667 02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:11,880 Speaker 1: mean you could see it in Hard Knocks. I mean 2668 02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:15,240 Speaker 1: it was readily apparent. Yeah, and the rift between the 2669 02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:19,520 Speaker 1: head coach and the OC it was rough, not good. 2670 02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,400 Speaker 1: The other topic we talked about, and we had no 2671 02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:22,960 Speaker 1: pull on this, but we got a sense from you, 2672 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,480 Speaker 1: which second year Buffalo Bill will have a breakout year. 2673 02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:28,080 Speaker 1: A lot of suggestions for that. I think we're gonna 2674 02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:31,120 Speaker 1: bring that back. Sometimes people are excited about Robert Foster, 2675 02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,400 Speaker 1: and deservedly so, but there's some other guys that should 2676 02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,880 Speaker 1: not be dismissed. And we were excluding Josh Allen because 2677 02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,760 Speaker 1: he was obvious, but Tremaine on that list, Arren Johnson 2678 02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:41,240 Speaker 1: on that list. There's some good people there. Production assistance 2679 02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:44,160 Speaker 1: to name from George Blast, Jeff Coltenig, Thomas Honander, Kelly Rude, 2680 02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:47,600 Speaker 1: JJ Turrito, Kevin Cartis, Steam's robot our producer Jay Harris. 2681 02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Chris is backlttle tomorrow. We're back at twelve noon, One 2682 02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Doll's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's radio