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Speaker 2: This is the Business of Soccer. The APPA diversa in

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Speaker 2: this country is here just say.

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Speaker 3: The Global World Cup of twenty six will bring just

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Speaker 3: that the globe to the United States. Every four years,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's this moment where the world wakes up

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Speaker 3: to the incredible athletes.

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Speaker 4: That we have on the US women's national team.

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Speaker 1: There are more soccer games available to watch on television

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Speaker 1: in the.

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Speaker 5: US than any other country in the world.

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Speaker 1: Soccer, or as I would call it living in the UK,

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Speaker 1: football is the biggest sport.

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Speaker 2: In the world.

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Speaker 1: There's a gap in the market around women's soccer, and

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Speaker 1: we're here to fill that gap.

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Speaker 3: This is a special edition of the Bloomberg Business of

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Speaker 3: Sports podcasts, The Business of Soccer. I'm Vanessa Prodomo and

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Speaker 3: I'm diving in behind the scenes of the beautiful game

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Speaker 3: as we get ready for the twenty twenty six FIFA

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Speaker 3: World Cup. I am so excited for today's episode or

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Speaker 3: we will be focusing all on the business of goalkeepers.

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Speaker 3: As some of you may know, I was a Division

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Speaker 3: one college goalkeeper, so this topic is near and dear

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Speaker 3: to my heart. You might hear me get a little nerdy,

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Speaker 3: but stick with me because we have some really great guests.

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Speaker 3: Later we will talk to MLS All star Martin Poss,

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Speaker 3: but first we are starting with legendary former US women's

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Speaker 3: national team goalkeeper Brianna Scurry. She was one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons I became a goalkeeper, and we started our conversation

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Speaker 3: with talking about the legendary nineteen ninety nine Women's World

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Speaker 3: Cup and how it changed women's soccer and women's sports,

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Speaker 3: as well as getting into why goalkeepers are often overlooked

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Speaker 3: by marketers. Here's my conversation with legend former US women's

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Speaker 3: national team goalkeeper and ninety nine er Brianna Scurry. So

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Speaker 3: it is my absolute pleasure and dream really to speak

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Speaker 3: with you today, Brianna, US women's national team goalkeeper ninety

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Speaker 3: nine are Brianna Scurry. Guys, I'm fangirling over here if

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Speaker 3: you can't tell, I was a former goalkeeper.

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Speaker 4: So this is really a dream for me. Briana, thanks

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Speaker 4: so much for joining the business soccer.

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Speaker 1: Oh my pleasure. Thanks for having me, Thanks for thanking

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Speaker 1: of me. So I appreciate that goalkeepers.

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Speaker 4: Tonight exactly So that's exactly what I want to talk

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: So, I think one of the things that is really

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Speaker 3: interesting when we were talking about we're obviously soccer is

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Speaker 3: coming up a lot this year. It's why we have

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Speaker 3: this podcast. You know, we're around the corner from the

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Speaker 3: World Cup. But I think in the conversation of soccer,

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Speaker 3: in the conversation of stars, goalkeepers get lost in this conversation.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 5: I do agree.

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Speaker 1: It's a very interesting thing because America and I think

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Speaker 5: So I mean it's so interesting because it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's more exciting when a goal is scored,

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Speaker 4: I love a good sake, I love a good save.

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Speaker 4: Athleticism is everyone should really pay attention. That's the best.

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Speaker 5: I guess I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So I want to start with your journey

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Speaker 4: I want to what was your take, you know.

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Speaker 3: Throughout how it grew, the fever grew from grew stages

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Speaker 5: And so we were very emotional that game.

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Speaker 1: I think the ninety sixth Olympic Games had a lot

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Speaker 3: Right, And so you win in the ultimate fashion of

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Speaker 1: And so I think that changed a lot of perspectives

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Speaker 5: And should be told, you know, pks are hard.

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Speaker 4: That's it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So not to get okay, that was me getting

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Speaker 3: I mean, you you made this save. That was the

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe the market isn't ready for goalkeepers to

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Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, is it because of the

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Speaker 3: Time, and we met what I openly gay black woman

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Speaker 4: You know, this was I was the only one.

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Speaker 1: And I think the that the you know, the social

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Speaker 5: But now that has really changed the last few years.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually more grateful because it's actually now bigger.

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Speaker 4: How do you mean bigger for you now?

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Speaker 5: And also the fact that I.

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Speaker 1: And I think also because I've I've had a lot

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Speaker 5: And I feel now it's truly being appreciated.

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Speaker 3: I love to hear about that, you know, because obviously,

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Speaker 3: there was a point where the iconicism or so was

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Speaker 2: Play in it.

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Speaker 1: And so I feel like now you are really seeing

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, even though we have to get back to winning

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Speaker 3: The good thing about that is actually I love to

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Speaker 4: Hope Solo was very notorious for.

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Speaker 3: Many things, you know, positive and negative, made a lot

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's a really fascinating point to make.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let me say that when it comes

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Speaker 1: I feel like what happened with Alyssa is is I

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Speaker 5: Different players now you had you know, Kristen Pressed, tobn Heath.

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Speaker 1: Hope and I had to do. And so her name

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Speaker 1: But she was greatly overshadowed by Alex Morgan, by Megan

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Speaker 5: But she is a brilliant goalkeeper.

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Speaker 1: I've met her several times, watched her play, and she's

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Also she's a peak saving machine. Listener, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: You could bank it right, Yeah, that she's gonna save

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: You know in your new your like second half career,

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Speaker 3: you know you work with brands. You said you have

445
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Speaker 3: more partnerships now you've in part owner of a team

446
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: and things like that. Have you had conversations with brands

447
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 3: about the power of goalkeepers and telling their story and

448
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: like we said, I mean, if I was a brand

449
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: and I was going to invest in a player, I

450
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Speaker 3: would invest in a player who's going to be in

451
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Speaker 3: that seat for ten years. You know you know what

452
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So have you had those conversations with brands.

453
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Speaker 5: I have had those conversations, not only with goalkeepers in general.

454
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Speaker 1: I mean I explained to them how goalkeeping is a

455
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Speaker 1: foundation of a team and at one point in time,

456
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Speaker 1: if you go back in time and look at every

457
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Speaker 1: single team that's won a World championship or Olympic championship

458
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: at one point in time, and that run, the goalkeeper

459
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: had the team on their shoulders.

460
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Speaker 5: And so if you don't have strong defensive goalkeeping, then

461
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Speaker 5: you're not going to win. That's just how it works.

462
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Speaker 5: And so who better to have represent.

463
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Speaker 1: You if you're a company that wants to, you know,

464
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: talk about strength or teamwork or camaraderie or leadership. Goalkeepers

465
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Speaker 1: are all those things wrapped into one. And in my case,

466
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Speaker 1: I feel like not only my goalkeeper but now was

467
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: also a trailblazer, and so I understand how to how

468
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: to literally blaze trails and and make make something there

469
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: that was not there before. And so for me, I

470
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: think the important thing too with goalkeepers is where we

471
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: tend to be rather cerebral in our ability to you know,

472
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: decide where who goes where and shift our teammates and

473
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: positions to to be strong as a team. I mean,

474
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Speaker 1: I feel like one of my greatest my greatest traits

475
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: was my ability to communicate to my my backs and

476
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Speaker 1: put them in a right position for them to be successful.

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: And so all these steps of success, these these attributes

478
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: of success are all the same whether you're on the

479
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Speaker 1: picture in the boardroom.

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Speaker 3: That was my conversation with Hall of Fame goalkeeper Brianna Scurry.

481
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Speaker 3: This is a special edition of the Bloomberg Business of

482
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Speaker 3: Sports podcast The Business of Soccer. Up next, we'll hear

483
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Speaker 3: from FC Dallas goalkeeper Pass. I'm Vanessa Prodomo.

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Speaker 4: This is Blomberg.

485
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Speaker 3: You're listening to a special edition of the Bloomberg Business

486
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Speaker 3: of Sports podcast The Business of Soccer.

487
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: I'm Vanessa Perdomo.

488
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Speaker 3: My next guest is MLS All Star goalkeeper Martin Pass.

489
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: He joined us to discuss how he's used his position

490
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: to build a business portfolio, which includes his own glove line,

491
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: ownership into professional padel and other emerging sports. We also

492
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: discussed the growth of the MLS and how the league

493
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: is positioned to skyrocket after the World Cup. Let's listen

494
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Speaker 3: to my conversation with FC Dallas goalkeeper Martin Pass. First,

495
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Speaker 3: and foremost, I want to get from you when did

496
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Speaker 3: you become a goalkeeper at what point when you were

497
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: playing the sport, because I feel like at every point

498
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: it's different for everyone.

499
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Speaker 2: It's very different from me than I think the usual.

500
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 6: I was a strike on those fifteen and I was

501
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 6: a fo goalkeeper indoor football goalkeeper before that, and then.

502
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: I was a good striker.

503
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 6: But when our side came into the game around the

504
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 6: age of eleven.

505
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: I found out that I was a bit lazy, to

506
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: be honest, that I didn't want to.

507
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 6: Run that much, and I lost the fund for being

508
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 6: striker around that age, to be honest, but I was

509
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 6: in the highest team, so I wanted to keep my

510
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 6: spot there. And then at fifteen I became sort of

511
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 6: like a very lazy striker, didn't.

512
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: Want to go to practices anymore, wasn't particularly obsessed.

513
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 6: And then my coach came to me and he said, like, look,

514
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 6: every time we practice and you're putting to go, I

515
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 6: see you really enjoying it, and I see you not

516
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 6: enjoying being a striker. And then I took, like a gamble,

517
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 6: I took a chance, like let's do it, let's put

518
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Speaker 6: the gloves on and let's try. The year there was

519
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 6: an open spot the highest theme of my amateur club

520
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 6: and then I developed so quickly from that and then yeah,

521
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 6: within two years I was playing for my national team

522
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 6: for age group all there. So that was like very

523
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 6: surrealistic a little bit. And yeah, but that's the way

524
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 6: how it started.

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00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: That's really interesting, do you know?

526
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I feel, like I said, like, everyone

527
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: has their own sort of place with it. But I

528
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: do think when I talked to a lot of people

529
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: at the highest level, goalkeepers at the highest level, it's

530
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: almost Yeah, I kind of found it later, but the

531
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: athleticism really like helped you, you know, so it helps

532
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: so you would say that it helped you love the

533
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: game of soccer again finding the position.

534
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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. For sure, I was definitely not enjoying

535
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 6: it anymore. And then since I put the gloves on,

536
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 6: I was asking for practices. I went to trade with

537
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 6: the under seventies on the nineties and the first team

538
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 6: right away. I practiced four times a day. Almost my

539
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 6: body didn't like it that much because the field was

540
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 6: an artificial turf, and I got like, very like much

541
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 6: hip problems and showed the problems. But once I got

542
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 6: settled in and yeah, I got used to it. I

543
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 6: started to improve very fast. So yeah, definitely, yeah, I

544
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 6: felt like I found my passion, find my obsession. And

545
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 6: then yeah, I really was very keen on learning the

546
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 6: little details to become.

547
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: Better and better.

548
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: What was it about the position for you that you

549
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 4: fell in love with?

550
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 6: I think I very have a big memory of the

551
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 6: first time I found the love for goalkeeping, and it

552
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 6: was when I was still very young.

553
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: There was the Euros, the European.

554
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 6: Championships, and Holland played at that time Sweden in and

555
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 6: it went to p k's and Edwin van Desar stopped

556
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 6: the PK and yeah, it was kind of my first

557
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 6: big tournament that I watched as a kid, and he

558
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 6: was the hero and I was like, oh, I want

559
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 6: to be like like like that guy, and I want

560
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 6: to fly, and.

561
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I made these beautiful saves.

562
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: And then I remember every time I went into a pool,

563
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 6: I went underneath the water and tried to like simulate

564
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 6: the saves that he made. And then yeah, and then yeah,

565
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 6: what I said, I became like futsal goalkeeper and outside

566
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 6: field player. And then once I could make that more

567
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 6: and more into my lifestyle, around the age of fifteen, yeah,

568
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 6: I was yeah, I was gone and then yeah, there

569
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 6: was no one stopping me.

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Speaker 4: I love that story.

571
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: I love that story because I also I fell in

572
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: love with goal keeping as well watching the US one's

573
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: national team nineteen ninety nine.

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00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: You know, penalty kick shootout.

575
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: There's something something about penalty kick shootouts that I don't

576
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: know if other people enjoyed, maybe as much as goalkeepers,

577
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: but I love I love watching them. I love watching

578
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: keepers make the same We're not supposed to write, but

579
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: when you do, it's it's amazing.

580
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: No.

581
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's the only moment in games where

582
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 6: the pressure is on the kicker and not on a

583
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: goalkeeper and we have everything to win. So yeah, I

584
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 6: always love love penalty shootouts, especially when I'm playing them myself.

585
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Same, So I have a lot of I have

586
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: a lot of colleagues also, like who their their daughters

587
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: are goalkeepers right now. They're a little bit younger, and

588
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: they're they're not like loving it. It's like rotation kind

589
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: of a thing, and they're, oh, you know, well I.

590
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: Don't love it.

591
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: So when you talk to you, you know, do you

592
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: work with younger goalkeepers? Do you try and you know,

593
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: work with people younger kids to really get them passionate

594
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: about being a goalkeeper for sure.

595
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 6: For sure, I think one of the most important things

596
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 6: nowadays is that you try every position and see what

597
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 6: you really like.

598
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: I think, like if.

599
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 6: You're young, playing outfield is very important, especially nowadays with

600
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 6: how the position progressed, with having to play with your feet,

601
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 6: we're almost an extra central defender too, and building out

602
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: from the back, so it's very important. Even doing other sports,

603
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 6: then soccer can really help you, I think, to become

604
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 6: a better goalkeeper and just really go out there and

605
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 6: try to enjoy. Try to not put as much pressure

606
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 6: on yourself as as possible, but yeah, make sure you

607
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 6: enjoy and then see what position you enjoy the most.

608
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 6: And if that's goalkeeping then and you have a big dream,

609
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 6: then don't be afraid to take all the necessary steps

610
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 6: to become professional. And yeah, don't be afraid to ask

611
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 6: for people like me, we're always open to give advice.

612
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 6: But I think one of the biggest things is don't

613
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 6: put too much pressure on yourself. And especially nowadays with

614
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 6: social media and.

615
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Everything, Yeah, we're getting judged very easily.

616
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, stick to your own path, don't get distracted,

617
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 6: and keep going.

618
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: It's definitely interesting.

619
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: Hard thing obviously to not put that pressure on yourself,

620
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: like you said, in this age of social media.

621
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: But I remember when I fell in love.

622
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: With goalkeeper, it was because I noticed that the only

623
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: people who got their names in the paper were the

624
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: people who scored and the ones who saved the goals,

625
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, And I was like, I kind of like that.

626
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: I like having a name in the paper like that,

627
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: you know.

628
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: So I think that there's still that element to it, right,

629
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: that's you don't want to put the pressure on yourself,

630
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: but there is there's so much pressure on being a

631
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: goalkeeper and you're the hero or the scapegoat, you know,

632
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: in this world, and it's really hard to navigate that sometimes,

633
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: especially if you're younger.

634
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 4: But how do you navigate that, you know, in your career.

635
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: I think there's more and.

636
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 6: More appreciation nowadays for goalkeepers that used to be not

637
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 6: so much appreciation. But yeah, I think now with how

638
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 6: the game progressed, we're a very big part of the

639
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: game now and it's not all the least athletic guy

640
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: going goal because.

641
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: That's how it used to be, right, But I think now.

642
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: There's becoming more appreciation, but there's still this stigma of like, hey,

643
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: you're a goalkeeper, so we're almost like a different like

644
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 6: a different sport and the different people because we also

645
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: practice for half of the time different from the big

646
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 6: group and then we come together for like finishing or

647
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 6: small sided games or whatever. But I think, yeah, just look,

648
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 6: all single details matter. We have to be nearly perfect,

649
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: and you're not gonna be perfect all the time as

650
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 6: a goalkeeper, and like, I'm not seeking highlights maybe or

651
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 6: the headlines. As a striker is for me, if nobody

652
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: talks about me.

653
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: Probably I did a really good job.

654
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 6: And also for me, if I put my defenders in

655
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: a position to defend the goal so good that I

656
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 6: don't need to come into action. I think that's one

657
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 6: of the keys, right communication. Being a leader from the

658
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 6: we can see the whole field. So I think that's

659
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 6: one of our major thoughts. And I think if you

660
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 6: let the game come to you and you didn't done

661
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 6: all the necessary stuff, then you will be there and

662
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 6: you'll also get headlines. But I think if you're looking

663
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: for headlines, that's where mistake's going to come. So I think, yeah,

664
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Speaker 6: just try to avoid seeking for saves or looking for

665
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 6: saves because the game's going to come to you anyways,

666
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 6: and when you come and look for it, that's where

667
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 6: most of the mistakes are going to go. Yeah.

668
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: I love what you said there too, about what you

669
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: can do when you're not even in the play right.

670
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: It's about communication, it's about leadership, it's about all of

671
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: those things. And I want to get into that a

672
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: little bit more, and especially when we're talking about the

673
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: business side of it, when we're talking of the business

674
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: side of being a goalkeeper, and then I want to

675
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: talk about your investments and how that mindset really goes

676
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: into your business mindset. Well, let's talk a little bit

677
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: about the business of being a goalkeeper. You know, you

678
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: would mentioned there that you think, you know that it's

679
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: gotten better maybe with you know, over time, people have

680
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: more appreciation for it, but it still feels like maybe

681
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: there isn't as much marketability opportunity, or the leagues haven't

682
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: done as much, you know, to really recognize the stars

683
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: of a goalkeeper. You know, I'm interested to hear your

684
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: take on that, especially as an MLS All Star, you know,

685
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 3: how you feel about the way that goalkeepers are giving

686
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 3: marketability opportunities and things like that in today's game.

687
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny because one of the things that when

688
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 6: I become professional or became professional was at the beginning,

689
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 6: all the big like Adidas and Nike, they will give

690
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 6: everyone big sponsorships, right, and then after three years they

691
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 6: got some budget and then they only signed attackers and

692
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 6: midfielders anymore, and they didn't sign goalkeepers and defenders anymore

693
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 6: because they weren't marketable. Not So I think that's a

694
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 6: great example of uh, yeah, who's getting.

695
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: The headlines and where's the business?

696
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 6: But I think, yeah, it also it is it is

697
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 6: a responsibility that you have to take yourself nowadays because

698
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: I think social media is a blessing and a curse.

699
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 6: But you have to go out there and put some

700
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 6: action for yourself because I think everyone loves to see

701
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 6: beautiful saves and and see yeah, all that spectacular action.

702
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: But if it's not put out.

703
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 6: There, then nobody's going to see it, right, So I

704
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 6: think maybe we need to do a little bit more

705
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 6: action in this case to become more marketable, et cetera.

706
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: But and luckily I've built a good team around me

707
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 6: now that that is doing that. But yeah, I think

708
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: definitely we need to grind a little bit harder because

709
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 6: the brand's first look at the striker, then look at

710
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 6: the midfielder, and probably then come to the defenders and.

711
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: Goalkeepers, right, And I feel like when it comes to that,

712
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: it's because you've done something goalkeepers or defenders on the

713
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: world stage typically that really can't be ignored by by

714
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: big brands, right.

715
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of Eco.

716
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Cassias and gian Luigi Bufan, who, like everybody knows who

717
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: they are, right, and they had glove deals and things

718
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: like that. And I know you have a deal with

719
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: gloves and I want to hear more about that and

720
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: how that really came to be for you. But when

721
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: you're playing on the international stage, do you see that

722
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: difference than playing on like the league side.

723
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think like the top goalkeepers, they're always going

724
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 6: to get there their deals, right. And with the beer companies,

725
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 6: it's not only a glove deals, it's a full a

726
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 6: barrel deal with boots, with clothes, with gloves, it's almost

727
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 6: like a baggage deal.

728
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: And with that come also exclusivity.

729
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 6: So you also can do anything with any other clothing

730
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 6: deal or or any other shoot deal because you're committed

731
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 6: to one one side. And I think if you look

732
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 6: at the biggest stars, they will all have the Ididas

733
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: for the Nike or Yeah or those deals, and then

734
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 6: if you look at one tier below, that then becomes

735
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 6: sort of like a free market, right. So yeah, it's

736
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 6: been it's been very interesting. I think the goalkeeper glove

737
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 6: business has been a little bit like behind in the

738
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 6: way how we are, how we have been looking at it.

739
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: And that's why I think I'm.

740
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 6: Very Yeah, I'm very enthusiastic about my new deal because

741
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 6: we did it sort of in like a new way

742
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 6: I believe, which is very futuristic and I think it's

743
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 6: the future.

744
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: And can you elaborate on that deal actually have.

745
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 6: Skin in the game, like literally, So.

746
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm.

747
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 6: Very happy with how I did it, and I think

748
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 6: I want to set like an example for goalkeepers how

749
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 6: we can do.

750
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can you elaborate a little bit on that,

751
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: how the deal came together, how you feel like it's new, unique,

752
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: and you know, trying to change that market a little bit.

753
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

754
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 6: So my old glove deal was expiring first of June

755
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 6: this summer, and me and my agent were looking and

756
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 6: we had several offers. We're talking with it, and then

757
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 6: this company came about cood Coma and they approached me

758
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 6: and said like, hey, Martin, we want to take you

759
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: in the whole process and you can build your own

760
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 6: glove with us. And then I was like, whoa, that's

761
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: super interesting. And then I said, but I want to

762
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 6: have one. I want to have one like remark. I

763
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 6: want to invest in the company, to have skin in

764
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 6: the game and help grow the company. So then we

765
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 6: did a deal where it was like yeah, also a

766
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 6: little bit of equity extra because I have a big following,

767
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 6: for example, and I could build my own signature glove

768
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 6: similar to how basketball players, for example, do it with.

769
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: Their Nike shootew et cetera.

770
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: So that was super cool and for me, it was

771
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 6: also really cool to see the process how the gloves

772
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 6: are built.

773
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: What type of material are putting into.

774
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 6: The gloves, because a majority of the gloves they are

775
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 6: very they are built with very chemical products, and we

776
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 6: want to do it as clean as possible with a

777
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 6: lot of natural products. And then yeah, what type of

778
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 6: latex are you using, what type of fit are you using,

779
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 6: what does the thumb, what is the s thread, what

780
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 6: is the design on the back? I could personalize it

781
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 6: in my own way. And that was just super super cool.

782
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

783
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: And to get a little bit into the nerdy detail

784
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: for me, what are those things that you need in

785
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: your gloves to like you feel like really that help

786
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: you perform the most.

787
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the pormos, the fit, I like kind

788
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 6: of a tighter fit where.

789
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: You feel warm with the glove.

790
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 6: So and then it comes with like the grip of course,

791
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 6: that's that's the thing that we always struggle with, especially

792
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 6: in Texas heat in the summer, it's going to be

793
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 6: very slippery, so you have to have a very very

794
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 6: good grip and a grip that can handle wetness of

795
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 6: the grass, sweat and even the cold sometimes. And those

796
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: are stuff that some people don't think about, but you

797
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 6: have to really conscious about.

798
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: Especially if it gets super slippery. Right, So those things

799
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: are super important for me.

800
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: And then I love to look good with the gloves

801
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 6: to match up with my boots and it makes you

802
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 6: just a little bit more confident, maybe a little bit

803
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 6: similar to a haircut or.

804
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: Something like that.

805
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's all about the fit. It's the first thing.

806
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: I you know, you feel you feel real like good

807
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: when you put it on. I was also always a person.

808
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: I had to wear a long sleeves no matter what.

809
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: I could never. I can't do a short sleep keeper.

810
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: I can't do it. I want to talk about how

811
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: your mindset as a goalkeeper has affected the way you

812
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: do business, and how those are one and the same.

813
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

814
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 6: I believe I invest in really the things that I'm

815
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 6: passionate about.

816
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about goalkeeping.

817
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 6: I'm passionate about paddel this record sport where I'm really

818
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: really passionate about and I have really big hopes for

819
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 6: especially in the US because it's still early stage.

820
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about golf.

821
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 6: I'm passionate about healthy food and the stuff that we

822
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 6: put into our body. So I think I'm always and

823
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 6: that's what I learned from choosing.

824
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: To be a goalkeeper. What are you passionate about? And

825
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: if you're passionate about that, it's going to feel organic.

826
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's very easy to help and grow the

827
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 6: market because you're super passionate about it and you're noticing

828
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: the problems that you have in those markets.

829
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: Right, So I.

830
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: Think, yeah, go after your feeling and if you feel

831
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 6: passionate about that subject and you can it's in your

832
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 6: personal values and you think, hey, this could could really

833
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 6: yeah suit with my personal brand. I think you should

834
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 6: just go for it. And yeah, that's how I've been

835
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 6: doing my portfolio, especially on the business side, where am

836
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 6: I passionate about what is a hobby of mine, where

837
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 6: I can roll in this company very easily and make

838
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: it organic and not like, hey, I'm selling you all

839
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 6: this project in a in a in a video that

840
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 6: is not not for me. So I think that's one

841
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 6: of the key things for me, finding stuff that I'm

842
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 6: very passionate about and that organic organically grows with my bread.

843
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: So do you play Padel?

844
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 6: Yes?

845
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

846
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: In the season, it's very hard to play it because

847
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 6: I feel a very quick my knees.

848
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: If we have three games in a week and then

849
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: in the other day.

850
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 6: I'm going to play for thelso I need to take

851
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 6: a little bit care of the body. I also just

852
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 6: came back from from a big muscle injury on my hamstring.

853
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 6: So but now the off season is approaching and the

854
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 6: only thing I'm going to play is in the all season,

855
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 6: So that's great, and I think it's also great just

856
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 6: for a.

857
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: Hand eye coordination. Yeah, I think what I told you already.

858
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 6: Also for kids to play other sports sometimes can benefit.

859
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: Your sport a lot.

860
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 6: I know Court played volleyball on almost a professional level,

861
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 6: and you can see it on the way how he's

862
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: purrying ball sometimes that he played volleyball. And I'm sure

863
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 6: some goalkeepers played handball better. Check played ice hockey, which

864
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 6: which benefited him. So I think those things can be

865
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: really beneficial.

866
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: To Lastly, I want to talk to you a little

867
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: bit about the MLS. You've played here for a while

868
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: now and I want to, you know, hear about what

869
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: it's been like to play here in the US and

870
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: see now that the World Cups around the corner.

871
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: Have you seen it grow?

872
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 6: You know?

873
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: So what has it been like playing in Dallas?

874
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: Good question. I came here in twenty twenty two.

875
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 6: When the end of COVID in Holland there was still

876
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 6: a lockdown, and I came here and it.

877
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Was opening up, especially in Texas, it was opening up.

878
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I kind of I first went on

879
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: a six month low. Kind of do I like the club?

880
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: That was the club like me? Those were two major questions.

881
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 6: And then I had a clause in my in my

882
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 6: agreement where if I played the next amount of games

883
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 6: they were triggered to buy an option. And then after

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Speaker 6: six seven games on six seven but the club came

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Speaker 6: option no matter what. So that gave a lot of

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Speaker 6: confidence to me. And then yeah, in the first four years,

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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty games and MLYS now or in total

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Speaker 6: for actually that is with all the other competitions. Became

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Speaker 6: captain this year, became an MLS All Star, won the

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Speaker 6: Save of the season last year, and yeah, just establish

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Speaker 6: myself here in the league as a as a good goalkeeper.

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Speaker 6: And then yeah, now learning how the leadership stuff two.

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Speaker 6: And I think also what people don't take into account

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Speaker 6: that this is one of the hardest leagues in terms

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Speaker 6: from Vancouver after our playoff game, and then sometimes we

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Speaker 6: not a professional here, you're going to struggle a lot.

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Speaker 6: So you need to dedicate everything to your to put

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Speaker 6: the right things into your body to recover as fast

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Speaker 6: as possible, and to also get the mind ready again

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Speaker 6: because there's going to be fatigue especially in the summer

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Speaker 6: here when Texas he is around the corner and you

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Speaker 6: go to the altitude in Colorado, you go to the humanness.

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Speaker 6: In Houston, or in Miami, you go to the cold

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Speaker 6: in March. In Toronto you play in the snow. So

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Speaker 6: there's all these yeah facets in this league where you

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Speaker 6: really have to be adaptable to whatever climate you're coming

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Speaker 6: into or whatever fatigue you're feeding. I also play national

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Speaker 6: team for in Southeast Asia, for Indonesia. My grandmother's from there,

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Speaker 6: so that travel also comes into play with me. So

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Speaker 6: for me, it's a lot about healthy food, sleeping the

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Speaker 6: right ways, and yeah, getting a lot of treatments and

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Speaker 6: stuff like that to every time get myself ready for

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Speaker 6: the game. So yeah, it's not an easy leak to

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Speaker 6: play in a lot of And it's transitioning now a

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Speaker 6: lot since I came here from like the retirement league

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Speaker 6: into a development league, So there's more and more young

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Speaker 6: players signed here to develop them and to become a

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Speaker 6: star player here instead of buying players who are closer.

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Speaker 2: Retirement and building them.

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Speaker 6: Up as market value. So I think there's very interesting.

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Speaker 6: But now with the World Cup coming, yeah, you've seen

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Speaker 6: a big, big, skyrocketing and attention. With Messi of course coming.

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Speaker 6: It was a big, big deal for the league. So

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Speaker 6: you see all this stuff and I think soccer becomes

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Speaker 6: more and more and one of the main sports here

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Speaker 6: in the US, which is a very good development.

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Speaker 3: That was my conversation with FC Dallas and Indonesian national

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Speaker 3: team goalkeeper Martin pass And that does it for this

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Speaker 3: edition of the Business of Soccer. It's part of a

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Speaker 3: new series we're starting on the Bloomberg Business of Sports

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Speaker 3: as we get ready for the FIFA World Cup in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. I'm Vanessa Perdomo. Subscribe now so you

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