WEBVTT - Glee's Dancing Queen Brooke Lipton Pt. 1 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:05.160 And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna and Kevin 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.119 an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.360 Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss Podcast, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.080 The Guest Edition. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.560 We have a very very very special guest today. We 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:22.120 have the assistant choreographer who then became the choreographer on Glee, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.200 Brook Lifton, half of the choreography team with Zach Woodley, 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:34.000 mom of dad, mom and dad brother's sister. The choreography 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:39.960 department of two. For most of it really was sort 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.080 of like I don't know, extended family, yes, only we 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.560 were so close to them and we talked to Brooke 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.440 and you're going to hear just how Brooke and Zach 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.360 were a part of every single aspect of the show. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.760 And it's fascinating because they're sort of like the unsung heroes. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.360 I think, oh total Glee and people don't realize how 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:03.640 much they had to do. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.280 And without them, we wouldn't we wouldn't have Glee. So 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.440 get ready, buckle up, we get into it. This is 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:16.440 Brook Lipton, Part one. Brook Lipton, Everyone, Hi you guys. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:24.920 I run and Zach choreographed Glee for forever from the 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:25.640 very beginning. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.520 I'm actually one of twelve, only one of twelve who 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:34.680 actually made it from the beginning to the end, there 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.120 was like there was like an award that like, you know, 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.600 when it was like always trying to find silly things 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.040 to do, it was like, yeah, because from the pilots 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.640 of the last episode, because also people take breaks, they 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.880 came back, they were off, they had an episode off, whatever, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.160 it was, right, Yeah. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.960 I was there even when Zach left, you were you 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:55.760 were there. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.560 I was there. I was there top to bottom, which 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.040 I love every second. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.720 If people don't know, Brooke is one of the most 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.360 incredible dancers on the face of the earth. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:16.080 Thank you. Everybody lie it's a lie, but thank you 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:21.200 it's not. I'll take everyone has to also realized my 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.399 said like I'm so dry and sarcastic that I'm very 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.959 negative too. But I really love you guys so much 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.760 so when I keep putting myself down, you know, it's 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.480 just that's that's my that's my natural defense. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:38.160 The same family. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:45.959 Great, Okay, so along having danced in Hollywood and in 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.200 LA for such a long time, you've worked with literally everybody. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.480 I particularly know you as the Brittany dancer. But yes, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:03:00.800 you also served as the assistant choreographer on for all 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:01.959 how many. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:08.480 Episodes we do episodes, I don't know, like music number count. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.160 I used to think it was seven forty nine, That's 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.080 why I told everyone, but then Andrew said it was 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.919 seven forty one, So I don't know if it s 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.359 in the state. We were in this same boat. Yeah, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.360 I started as an assistant, and then I moved up 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.920 to the associate. Then I went to choreographer, then co choreographer, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:36.480 so my title changed time well, but honestly, mostly we 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.040 were department of two, like it was me and Zach, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.200 you know, and then eventually it was like, oh, we 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.400 need maybe a little help, or then it was like, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.160 oh my gosh, more help is like it was help, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.680 but it also there's only so many things you could do, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.560 it's crazy. So yeah, we were probably the biggest, smallest 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.080 department that's right. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.119 Ever that sounds, and you had a completely like your 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.560 relationship the show and then to us was also unique 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.120 in that way, like we had a completely the crew. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.320 The rest of the crew saw us and you all 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.400 on set like the hundreds of people, but you had 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.760 to put up with us other time. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.400 No, No, okay, it's like I mean, okay, so I've 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.159 been listening since show Man's and stuff. It's like and 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.400 I just every time I listen, I'm like, does anyone 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.120 get it? Like I know there's people out there and 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.080 they're listening, and they're like, now they're getting this inside 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.360 scoop And then they're listening to you know, Ryan and Brian, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.480 Ryan and Brian who Brad and I it like they 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.320 just should have just be one big name. But basically, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.680 like as everyone's still telling these stories, I'm like, you 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.640 weren't you weren't there, You weren't there, Like it's so 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.919 still hard to explain to everybody what it really means. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.320 And it's so I feel like we were the biggest 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:57.720 apartment that was so invested into the production side. Like 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.719 there's very departments that were in those concept meetings, you know, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.279 so when it comes out and then because sometimes the 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.839 scripts used to say and they danced, yes, you know, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.440 and then all of a sudden that's like you know 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.680 a page is a line is like you know you 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.080 know it by a minute. And also like there's this 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.080 little squares like and they and they danced joyfully or whatever, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.960 like at the beginning, we didn't know how things were. So, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.480 you know, Zach being in all those meetings, like we 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.279 were in that whole side of a lot of the 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.240 development and trying to make something out of it. But 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.440 then so with you guys, with the actors, and then 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.680 totally and with the production of the guy, you know, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.280 sitting there from when they're building the sets and trying 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.640 things out, Like we were just so hands on with 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:46.680 all departments. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:47.360 It's like. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.840 We were we were in the mix of everything. I 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.480 feel like we got we got to deal with all 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.240 that stuff, so we got to do with some of 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.200 the fun stuff like the performance, and we went on 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.520 I mean describe it as fun, I don't know, but 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.160 like the flashy, the knowing on tour, making a movie, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.200 going to the White House, going to Europe, you know, 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.279 like all the crazy, insane stuff. But then also still 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.120 trying to you know, decide how those ramps were going 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.600 to work when we were wheeling down those or how 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.200 you're going to dance in water or with fire, or 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.760 do you remember the pool? Do you remember that we 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.400 couldn't touch the bottom of the floor of the pool. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.400 And so we went and they rented out the YMC 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.240 and we're like, our tims are like this. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.240 I forgot that part that it was really. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.960 Really just I mean, so I think my next question 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.279 is should I just come on the show every week 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.679 and just break down all those numbers with you guys 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.800 every week and tell you it reminds you of the 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.120 insane stories of. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:56.400 Guys were like for lack of a better analogy or metaphor, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.960 like the grout, like you filled all the gaps between 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:05.320 all the different departments that managing us were like without 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.720 the two of you, nothing, there would be nothing to 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.720 shoot well waits numbers. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.880 Without the amazing like we had an incredible crew and 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.400 that was that was the thing that was so cool 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.400 is that you know, we would get there would be 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.720 a script with this idea or a piece of paper 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:32.000 and then usually Zach would be like okay, like and 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.720 and you know what was really important, you know, especially 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.760 to him, was like we never repeated things. It was 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.600 always brand new, even when we did even when we 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.360 did stuff, and it was like supposed to be Madonna 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.480 or Brittany, and like obviously I knew all the Brittany choreography. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.720 We didn't just take it. I mean obviously there was 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.840 moments in time where it was iconic and it was 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.520 like we need this step, We needed this move because 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:05.200 if we're trying to dance like a certain artist, everybody 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.000 knew this in the music video, you wanted whatever, that 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.520 one step was to reference things. But it was you know, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.960 that's a really big thing in the in the choreography 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:19.200 in the world right now about stealing and taking and cobby, right, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.160 which huge breakthrough, you know. But but that was also 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.200 in the front of our mind constantly as things were 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.240 always going. You know, that was really important that it 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:35.200 wasn't just oh, copy and paste, but we had these 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.960 departments that like everybody knew how important it was to 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.760 make this project, make it make We all wanted to 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.440 make Ryan happy, you know, we always wanted to get 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.840 that result that and because it was it was just 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.280 a sparkle, it's like, how do we get this? And 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.800 it's like, so you're working with Lou, You're working with 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.920 you know, all the set like the set deck, coming 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.760 into our rooms at five a clock, setting up steel deck, 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.960 trying to you know, we're trying to get everybody together 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.760 because everybody wanted their parts to be important and to 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.240 help and to get that final project. And so yeah, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.040 we were probably the most invested and we were the 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.520 clowns like we had to make everybody happy, and like, 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.439 you know, the dance was actually the most exciting thing 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.079 that happened. It was the break of whether you're. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.880 Shooting or that it was of the show. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.960 Yeah, I mean you were sitting in the choir room 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.200 with okay, quiet on set, the air conditioning goes off, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.120 and you're just like trying to get through the scene work. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.120 It was like music's on, we can dance, we can play. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:48.560 Have you guys even talked about my platform? No, you 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:53.160 guys remember how big my platform was that they used 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.160 to build that I would do the dances in front 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.559 of you for like the first season. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.079 The first season, there was so much trial and error 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.680 of figuring out what the hell we were doing. How 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.320 did this like come to you in the first place? Like, 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.199 how did it all start? 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:25.520 I had I auditioned to be in vocal adrenaline. Do 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:25.880 you know. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.400 That's my job on the floor. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.080 So okay, So let's go way back. So Zach and 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.480 I have known each other since I was fifteen, dance 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.160 competitions things like that. We used to teach together. He 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.280 was my He was my pretend husband when we would 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.880 travel on planes because I would travel with my babies 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.200 and so he'd be like, we have to get bored first. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:50.640 So we forever did this. I went and I auditioned 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.760 for Vocal Adrenaline. He called me I think that afternoon 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.960 and was like, I love you. But Ryan is one 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.199 hundred percent is high school, so this is not television 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.120 high school, so you can't be I was twenty eight 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.200 at the time. He's like, you can't play high school, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.240 like you're old, and I was like, yeah, I know, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.520 but but you know, like so like my sister who's 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.719 five years younger than me, like she was in Vocal Adrenaline. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.200 So he was like, but would you like to assist me? 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:22.680 So it's like do you want to work for three 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.480 days or do you want to work for six? And 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:29.160 I was like six, of course, and he was like okay, great, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.679 let's meet at Starbucks. We got to talk about the 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.480 main group and I was like cool and. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:40.480 He was like so because so excited to hear because 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.360 this is sid like we don't know about. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.600 Oh, I have so many stories. You don't know about 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.040 the tin shed could talk. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.400 Oh glad it doesn't. I'm glad it doesn't. Okay, you 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:55.480 meet at Starbucks. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.200 So we meet at Starbucks and he's like, so he's 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.520 explaining the show and talking about you guys, and he's like, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.600 I got yeah, he was probably rehearsals for with what 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.120 a week with you guys before I joined maybe or so, yeah, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:10.320 are you sure? 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.679 I don't know if we have that much time without you, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.120 maybe maybe. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.520 You might have done They might have done Twila before me, Like, 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.880 I don't know, you I was. I was there for Tila. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.480 We're definitely there for Twila, but you were definitely we 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.320 might have had that first week when we were first 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.080 Remember when. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.480 You were just getting into the wheelchair, Zach was helping 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.280 you and I remember Brooke not. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.880 No, I was. I definitely. I definitely missed a week 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.839 or so. And so he. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.840 Comes in and he is not too much in that 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:43.480 first week. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.079 No, we have We held hands and we walked in 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:52.920 straight lines. I tried to that on the beats. You 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.360 guys talk about the nine versions of it, but it 0:12:55.440 --> 0:13:01.800 was like we just were trying to walk. But it 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.440 was so cute. So okay, So we get there and 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.560 he's like, so we have this misfit group and he's like, 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.319 you know, tall and short and this and that, and 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.400 I'm like, great, and I was like, and he plays 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.360 don't stop believing, and I'm like in the parking lot 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.160 like jamming, and like I'm showing you like rock and roll, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.080 and like I'm like bouncing my shoulders and and and 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.280 like slapping my thighs like we you know, did it. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:34.040 And he's like, yeah, I'm so glad you're excited about that. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.760 But I don't think we can do any of that. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.920 Like it was just he was like, we are it 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.360 is going back. It is we have to go back 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.560 to there, not dancers or not not dancers or not, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.040 and we have to get that feeling and like but 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.040 I think I was just so excited about it too, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.600 and he was also so excited to have that like 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.240 energy of being excited. And then we walked into the 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.400 room and it's like, okay, we have to hold dance 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:01.640 Like okay. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:06.559 Yeah, Well, like did he warn you properly about the groups. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:09.160 To dance? 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.840 Yes, I'm sure he did not. I mean it was 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:15.880 he warned. Like do you know if he was warned 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.640 by like Casting a Ryan or anyone. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.440 Well, no, because this is the whole thing is that 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.280 you guys did an audition to dance because no one 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:25.520 thought about it. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.000 I mean, I thought about audition because I was like, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:34.160 they're only checking singing and acting, but how is there 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.160 not like a dance? And I felt fine about me. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.000 I was like, well, I'll be able to pick up 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:38.960 a five, six, seven, eight. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.360 But and then that's the whole fun Like again, that 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.400 the whole fun thing of listen to you guys talk 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.280 to everybody about it is like that's you know, Zach 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.640 had these amazing relationships with everybody, with Robert and it's like, okay, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.280 so you guys got to ask, you know, you got 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.600 to make a move a little bit. Can they can 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:58.280 they do things? 0:14:58.480 --> 0:14:58.560 Is that? 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.400 You know, it's the same thing we talk about Corey. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.920 Everyone was so excited because they're like, he has rhythm, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.880 he plays the drums, and it was like, that's a 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:07.800 different rhythm. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:17.000 Ye correlated, right, he's musical, musical musical. But yeah, so 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.680 but I think, oh gosh. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.680 That diagonal at the end, Oh we never got it. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.200 We never know, never got it, never got it. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.840 That's okay. Well, it's also insane to me to see 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.920 the growth of like we just watched an episode where 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.600 there's like eighty of us on stage and we're all 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.320 moving everybody's like locked in doing the right thing, and 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.960 to think that we could not get a diagonal with 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:40.800 five people. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.840 Well, also part of the whole show that was crazy 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.960 too is that, you know, you guys have talked about 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.120 the progression of it moving so fast. It was like, okay, yeah, 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.760 there are these misfits, and then like by episode two 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.480 it's like, oh, we have a full performance number. It's 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:02.320 like it's like where what happened to sit down rocking 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:07.840 the boat? Like we're just doing disco, really bad disco, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:14.200 and now we're heartfelt and you know, moving, like moving, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.440 moving some of the most iconic numbers like now we're 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.360 moving and going to craziness. And then it's like two 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.840 weeks later, it's like we're sectionals. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.480 It's like a month to figure out how to do 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.520 a bad diagonal line. Yeah, exactly a line. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.200 But it became a well oiled machine to the point 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.880 where there was literally dance doubles. But not you guys 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.760 ever having dance doubles. But yes, the process of figuring 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.240 out how to get everybody in. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.920 The room skeleton crew only got worse. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:49.680 We could talk about tour. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:55.200 Oh yeah, oh we will. So after that first, I 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.520 mean what would did the show, because like you said, 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.440 there would be descriptions and in the pilot that they dance, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.040 or Ryan would come in and be like Twila or 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.320 Ryan would come and be like, I just want up. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.760 I want something up. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.680 It needs to be more and more lifting like, and. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.919 You're like lifts but not lifts like. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.919 He couldn't explain it, but he had a feeling and 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.960 then you guys had to turn the feeling into dance basically. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.120 Well and I and again that's like the one. I mean, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.399 Zach is just a genius. You know, he's like the 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.600 most unrecognized. I mean, everyone who knows him knows he 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.560 is just the biggest angel in the heart and the 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.280 smartest and most talented person. And I think only gets 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.439 the hardest jobs in the whole white world, you know, 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.920 only it's he only does the impossible and makes it 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.640 unbelievable and that's what is so special. And so he's 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.760 also I mean, this is this was my first job 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.840 coming in onto more of the choreography side. So I 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.560 was still like because if you guys remember during a pilot, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.000 I was still dancing with Brittany, So I was rehearsing 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:09.320 like the circus video because I was like, I gotta leave, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.400 I gotta go to set. I got. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.119 I was so exciting. It was so fun. I mean 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.360 I not like when I first started coming to LA 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:17.760 and my mom and I were here for like pilot 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.800 season or something, and we saw a tour bus on 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.800 like Los Sienega or something in Hollywood and we're like, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.159 oh my god, that is the most beautiful tour bus. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.000 Who do you think it is. I'm like, I don't know. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.400 Let's follow it for a couple of blocks, like psychos, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.159 and we followed it to this hotel and it. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.080 Was large. No, it was when we were in Hollywood. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.119 How do you know it was me? 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.480 Because I recognize your hair because like you're the one 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.280 with the hair, the red hair hair, And I didn't 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.600 put it together un till you know, we were in 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.280 throws a rehearsal, and then you admitted that you had 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:58.960 to like go to like the Spring because you were 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.800 like you and Zach are also like the most humble, 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.760 like self deprecating people on the planet. You would never 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.960 talk about your achievements and how great you are, but 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.240 we can. And it came out you were one of 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.359 like Britney's longtime dancers and you had to go do 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.600 the circus video and it was like light bulb, Holy shit. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:24.199 I stopped her years ago and like, now you know, 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:28.800 you're our choreographer. And it was just a very weird. Yeah. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:30.400 I couldn't believe it. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:35.560 You are a psycho? Yes, no, yes, no, it was. 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.239 It was just it was one of those things. It 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.879 was like kind of crazy and like at the same time, 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.600 because this was just way at the beginning, like we 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.720 were just still working on other projects and things and 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.840 going and then yeah, when the once the pilot finished, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.560 you know, we were they were about to go back 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.960 on the next tour, and I just send promo with her, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.040 so I was like in Japan and it was over 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.240 in Europe and they were like, yeah, so we're getting 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.239 ready to you know, set up the next tour, and 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.679 I was like, yeah, okay, and I was kind of 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.439 like I kind of have this other show, you know, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.800 so like I basically stopped doing Brittany to do Glee 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.639 because you know, at that point, my kids were now 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.240 four and six, and going back on the road again 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:25.439 was a lot and that would have been my third 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.600 world tour, and it was like or I can be 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:34.679 at home who knew that sort of sort of like 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.199 fifteen hours a day living in Long Beach, but you know, 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.040 excited for Chick fil A when it came by. But 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.159 it was it was like the it was the like 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.159 unquestionable decision, like this is was exciting to be. I 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.119 wanted to be working with Zach. I wanted to be 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.000 doing this next adventure. And don't regret that at all, 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.560 you know, like I did the other one. I did 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.439 that job. So now I was ready to come and 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.280 play with you guys. So because it was special, like 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.840 even the pilot was so fun. I don't know, and 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:10.639 I know you I don't know if you guys know. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:16.400 Originally a vocal Adrenaline was four minutes long, that first number, yes, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:21.720 And we choreographed the whole thing and Zach was always 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.680 a big fan of cutting everything. Make it shorter, make 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.400 it shorter, make it short. He's like, I'm the person 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.119 in the room who loves dance the most, and I 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.360 don't want to see it. So he was very much 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.119 like this, this can't be. We got it down to 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:39.239 three minutes, so they all came in. They cut it 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.720 down to three minutes, so they shot it at three 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.479 minutes and then when it was on the edit, it 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.680 was a minute dance, you know, so that kind of 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:52.080 shows you how much I know, like how much dancing 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:53.320 was actually done. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.200 And having an intense number that is. 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.200 And so we played, you know, we were good caught 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.800 bad cop an opposite for you guys for the actors, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.720 and we were for the dancers. So for the dancers, 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.560 Zach was bad cop. I mean no, for you guys, 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.000 he was bad cop and I was I was good cop. 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.000 So he was. He would be so hard on you, 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.359 and then I would come and be like, it's okay, 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.240 you didn't need work on this, and I would like 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.480 I was like, hug kisses because it's like, don't you 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.520 mean to them? They try it, and He's like, no, 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.080 they need to be Like he was just broom and 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.399 with the dancers it was totally opposite. He just was 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.480 having the time of his life. And I kept being like, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.480 they're messing up, like they need to be cleaner, totally, 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.120 like totally change the way we talk, Like we don't 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.440 talk the way we used to. You know. Jah, you 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:44.800 guys mentioned heads and holes and just so fun. Look, 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.040 I'm only repeating the things you guys have said, like totally. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.480 And Zach was also infamous for not knowing the lyrics 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.560 to words of songs, and. 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.000 So he would make up his own to fit the 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:56.800 dance mooth. 0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:01.240 So like he'd be like, they're not in knees, yes, 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.639 I mean, but that I don't know if that's just 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:08.440 a trait that both I had most choreographers dancers. 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.560 Like we do, but like I mean, I have all 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:12.320 bad words for every song. 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.360 It's so helpful though, because like if I can't count. 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.200 Yes, this is also we just had so much fun 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.440 and like make you laugh. So pilot happens. I'm bad cop, 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:27.880 I'm trying to get everybody. Midway through the last day 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.919 of shooting, one of our dancers goes down kind of 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:37.000 throws out her neck like and everyone's like, can't you 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.200 just finish? And they're like, no, she can't finish. And 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.680 as she's getting wheelchaired off or like taking the shoes 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.320 off of her, trying to get the costume. Because the 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.919 whole thing was partnered, there were thirty vocal adrenaline dancers, 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.840 guys and girls, so I had to step in. So 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.679 if you watch the pilot, you can see blonde red, 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.400 blonde red, and so. 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.159 Yeah, I just thought I thought you were in the 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.600 whole thing. No, That's why I was like, wait. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.679 Yeah, So then what happened? Well, because I'm in all 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.840 those pictures. There's like there's like these vocal adrenaline picture 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:16.879 It's like me and Ryan are like all post in 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:21.760 costume like zax Is, which also fun fact. Uh you 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.760 know when they show vocal adrenalines like feet stretching and 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.800 doing that little those sax feet, those were like jims out. 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.679 They're like, oh, we need these shots later, and they 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:35.800 like put costumes on them. But it was lunch break, 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.800 and I knew the dance obviously, but I hadn't been 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.600 put into staging and doing all this thing. And then 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.840 lunch break thirty dancers. No one would come help me, 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.800 Like I kept texting like but we were like anyone 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.840 can someone come in like review? And I'm like, I 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.240 guess I was too mean to them. 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:56.040 I was telling them that. 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.399 I get now now I'm like now I'm in and 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.560 work things and I'm like god, like everyone, okay, this, 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.720 are you warm enough? Do you want my blanket? Do 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.040 you do? Like? What can I do? 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.320 But remember at that moment so well, because what was 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:17.280 also magical about how you and Zach were with us. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.240 You also built such like a great community of dancers 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.800 on the show, and so many of those dancers in 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:28.080 Vocal Adrenaline I had known previously to Glee, And so 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.120 that day that you guys shot Rehab, I remember hanging 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:34.040 out like back with all the Vocal Adrenaline people and 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.280 then finding out that one of them went down and 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.439 then you were stepping in. I was like, because it 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.280 was the we hadn't you guys were. 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.400 All you guys were all hanging out. You're all hanging 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.200 out having lunch, and I'm sure I'm stressing out and trying. 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.720 To re alert she knows, she's fine. 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.160 No, it was. It was an awesome group and and 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.320 I think, you know, one of my favorite things to do, 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:59.600 because in general, I did a lot of uh. I 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.120 went like the cat like. The way that the casting 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.520 worked is like I was still out in the world teaching, 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.040 so I was constantly being like, oh, I know all 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.440 these eighteen year olds because we really needed eighteen year olds, 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.960 people who had never worked in the industry before. So 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.119 when all that auditioning and things and bringing people in, 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.840 like we gave so many people their first jobs. We 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.800 got so many people to become into SAG and so 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.160 like it was like a average of like over five 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:32.040 hundred dancers a year would get jobs doing that, which 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.000 was so cool, Like it was so cool. And I 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.200 remember the first time like but we did safety Dance 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.280 and I was like, ah, we got to hire fifty people. 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.600 Like that was always so special. I think that was 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:46.080 part of some of my favorite memory or like moments, 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:50.000 is how many dancers we got it in employ and 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.480 at the same time working with production not trying to 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.639 be greedy about it. So it was like that that 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.159 would be that would happen. A seed would come up 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.560 and be like, okay, well how many dancers do you 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.639 think and so we would be like we would go, 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.960 I think it needs twelve and they would say, okay, 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.000 well I think eight and be like, okay, can we 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.040 get ten, you know, like we are you know, or 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.600 you know what eight is great here, We're going to 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.560 need four more, you know, to work with like whatever 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.200 the budget and how many we could really get into it, 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.239 like how many can we sell this for? You know, 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.720 because we never went back to thirty dancers for vocal adrenaline, 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.119 you know, then it got down to It was twenty 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.679 four and twenty two some episodes. It was six, you know, 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.280 like you know, it was like what could we mask 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.760 for all those things? But it was, you know, the 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:38.560 more the merrier. 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.040 Did you know Heather from before? 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.640 Heather and I grew up at the same dance studio. Yeah, 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.800 because so we're both from Phoenix and we both were. 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.200 You guys, yeah, like two of the best. I don't 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.280 know what, and you both have like this a similar 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.359 essence about you of like when you're dancing in a group, 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.960 you can't you find you guys, and you can't take 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.480 your eyes off. I don't know what it is, but 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.080 you both have that same thing. 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.440 Well, we grow. So we grew up at the same 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.520 dance studio, so it was dance connection. It was in 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:14.280 Arizona and are It was all about performance. It was 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.880 like the attitude is look at me and don't look 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:21.760 at anybody else, and the person next to you is 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.680 they need to have that same attitude. So there needs 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.600 to be three of you up on stage all go 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.440 in look at me and don't look at everybody else, 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.719 and knowing that like the people next to me are 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.400 dancing the same way. So it's look at us. So, 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.919 I mean that's how we grew up. It was you 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.879 stare at yourself, and that you stare at yourself in 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.960 the mirror and you make sure that that person is 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:46.160 staring at you and looks hot. It does. It's It's 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.240 one of the things I still try and teach, because 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.200 I still am out there going to teach you. But 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:55.320 it's much harder now because we look at our phones 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.160 more than we look at ourselves. 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.400 But also from a Zona. 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.240 No, she's from Texas. 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:03.200 I knew that, but. 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:08.160 You know, dancers like Haley, like I you know, I 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.640 was teaching her at twelve, so you know, and then 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.200 my sister and then like just a lot of the 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.720 people who all came through we've known for so long. 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.200 So like that's the whole thing. Like that was Haley's 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:22.840 first job coming. 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.760 Out to She was so like little when she came 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.200 with us. Yeah, she was the youngest one out of everyone, 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.680 and we were all so like protective of her. 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:33.560 Now all married. 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:47.040 Yeah, Yeah, you mentioned before that you got to you 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.920 and Zach got to sit in because you were navigating 0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.400 all these different departments that you get. 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.800 You got to sit in some of those production meetings 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.640 or all of the production meetings to figure out what 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.680 does this one little line mean in the script and 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.960 how is going to look on screen? What were those 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.000 meetings like, because we were never ever privy to anything. 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:09.360 Yeah yeah, so I so I really did end up 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:13.239 doing tone stuff until he left, So I wasn't. I 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.560 wasn't doing tone meetings until season five. It was more 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.120 of like, so it would be a department head, so 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.960 you know original tone means. So that was like Zach 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.920 was there, Mark Hutman, Lou It would be like the Okay, 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.640 we need some costume, we need to know what's going on. 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.239 And that was just breaking things down. Ooh, I'm thinking this, 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.040 I'm thinking this, I'm thinking this, And that's not where 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.720 you really asked necessarily all the questions. That wasn't where 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.400 you start saying, Okay, I need twelve answers, I need 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:46.040 this danswers. It was like, okay, I see this happening here. 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.360 And then those meetings broke down and the next thing 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.720 is you get to a production meeting, so now that 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.640 all of this department head's going to walk away take 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.440 all that information, then you got to kind of break 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.000 down what do we really need? How are you how 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.680 are we going to make this work? How are we 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.520 going to make this different? And then you kind of 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:10.800 then that next step is present and you know, mechanics 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.040 of working your way through everybody like can we do this? 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.560 Can we do this? How about this? This is our idea? 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.400 And then you present the next step. You know, then 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.560 then they present the stage looking the way they do, 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.440 or they get the drawings of the costumes. Ours was 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:31.360 always harder because it was like we did we never present. 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.560 We just were asking can we get can we get 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.480 some dancers? And then it's like could we get the 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:39.120 set made? I mean even the risers that was that 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:43.920 was a production because do you guys remember your baby risers? 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.360 Yes, because the first I remember even getting them period 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.880 was a thing, and then we got like a version 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.360 of them. Sorry you talk about. 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.040 It, Yeah, you know, you're absolutely right. So there was 0:31:55.080 --> 0:32:00.760 two sets of risers because vocal adrenalines. Risers were foot 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.040 so it's a full foot step up and you guys 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:10.600 couldn't It wasn't that you couldn't handle it. I'll say 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.880 more that the choir room didn't allow it. We maybe 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:19.320 didn't need it. Well yeah, maybe a little bit of both. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.440 But well, that's a progression of we just trying to 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.360 get step up to getting those things, but trying to 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.520 figure out how many inches you guys could dance and 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.640 step up and do levels and where we can make 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.800 the difference. And then eventually you guys did graduate and 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.640 you got full risers and you guys made it. You 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.840 guys did the whole thing. But it was funny because 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.120 you did like this six inch riser and like it 0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:50.520 didn't help because Corey was still you know, Frankentine and 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.440 then you had Tater Tot down on the floor wheeling around, 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.840 and you know, it was all the levels were crazy. 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:00.000 I loved it. 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.640 I'm so interested in like because you talk about all 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.959 these different departments presenting what they had to do, you 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:11.080 guys asking for things, and Ryan was so involved and 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.840 so much of he'd come into our rehearsals he'd personally approve, 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.040 especially in the beginning. Yes, yeah, everything, oh yeah, oh yeah. 0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.160 So there was a short line that seemed like all 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.320 of you had to learn with each other because these 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.080 things also weren't happening like, oh, make a presentation, you 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.080 have a week to do it. It was like things 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.840 were getting turned around on like an afternoon or the 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.880 next day. So like, what I mean, what was it 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.880 like developing that sort of shorthand with Ryan and with 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.560 the other departments. Because also, again a lot of these 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.160 people had all come from TV were not used to 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.320 shooting musical numbers. You guys were so used to doing 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.680 musical numbers, but maybe not at this rate and with 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:55.800 different levels of expertise in your students. So like I 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.400 felt like you were all balancing and meeting in the 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.600 middle of Okay, we're coming together to create this thing 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:06.200 that is wholly unique, and we all have to learn 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.080 how much each department or Ryan needs from us to 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.359 be able to tell you, to convince you that we 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:12.040 know what we're doing. 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.080 Well. I honestly it was I think so much of 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:20.200 it was easy at the beginning, you know. Okay, so 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:27.239 working with Lou who did costumes, she understood that they 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.040 had a stretch, you know, that that you couldn't have 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.919 you needed to have a gusset and things, or if 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.680 you you know, you couldn't get a suit on if 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:42.640 your guys's arms didn't go past here, or that it 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.640 was worth the money to spend, you know, to buy 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.320 an eighty dollars dance shoe, then to buy the thirty 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:53.560 dollars dance shoe from you know wherever, or the fake heel, 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.920 but then they broke, you know, so working with people 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.600 who knew where the w earth was in the value. 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.120 And I think that also comes from obviously we had 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:12.800 an amazing production, you know, like we had Kenneth who 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:18.719 basically understood how to fix all these departments and say 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.720 where we could spend the money and do all this stuff, 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.440 because it was important to spend the money, like it 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.080 was important to spend the money to make this work. 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.600 And I think that's why this show did work, is 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.719 because as a department you felt valued and loved in 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.680 the sense of instead of I don't feel like we 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.760 had a super fight like how dare you? But also 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.919 in a site of like a respectful And I think 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.560 that's something I take with me with everything I do. 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:51.320 So like, you know, I had like seventy five dancers 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.360 on Lucifer and I just did you know, I just 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.960 worked on that new Apple Paul Royal is coming out, 0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.839 Like we had seventy five dancers on that. And what 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.560 I've learned from Glee is it's not just about being 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.480 selfish it's not okay, I need seventy five d answers 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:10.200 and I need two weeks of rehearsal. And it's like, no, okay, 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.640 I can work with these twenty Like my days are 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.520 going to be seventy five hours a day and I 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.200 don't care, you know, but like I'm going to rehearse 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.080 like this, and I can I can then flip flop 0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.640 one actor in and get them like that, like manage 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:30.359 time management and knowing how to be smart about what 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.440 is really needed and what is a necessity. And and 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.319 I think we all respected each other in that so 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.240 much that you you really went, okay, that's there's value 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.440 in that. And you had to trust what our opinion 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.960 and things were. If I said that's not safe. You 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.440 know this floor is not going to be a safe floor. 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.520 Well it looks pretty well, yeah, but they're going to fall, 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.960 Like so what is it? What is another option? How 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.000 do we make this not slippery? And do those things? 0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.040 But you had everybody who wanted the best product and 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:06.319 the best job. No one had that ego, honestly, we 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.680 I think sometimes the hardest thing was when the years 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.880 and years go by, you get new people kind of 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.000 coming in and everyone has these great ideas and you're 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:18.520 kind of like, it really works like this, and they go, okay, great, 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.520 it works like this, And you know that was you know, 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.400 the only time that you had to go through changing 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.719 you had to go we had more casts, we had 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.480 more people, we had other things, but we really had 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:34.600 an amazing group that wanted to make the top happy 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:41.120 and knowing that also by treating departments well and and 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.080 and that was going to be a smart way to 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.640 do those things. So you know, we worked really hard. 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.359 You worked hard, you guys works worked hard. 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.120 We tried to make it's but also to make it 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.480 look like it was easy, like it's not. It's also 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.600 not my job to go this is so hard. This 0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.040 is so difficult. It's like, oh, you have seven numbers 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.560 this episode, we don't have any music and you don't 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.880 have oarsal time and we shoot tomorrow. Great, okay, cool, 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.400 totally and we can do this, Like yeah, it was 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:11.240 dance is great. 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.640 So how did you guys manage the time given that 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.799 that was usually the case. 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.240 Well, especially as we got going, like as the season's 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.680 because in the beginning we had more time. 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.719 Oh no, more time, no, no, no, no, So we get 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:32.440 a script, Nanda has music, and then we have no music, 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:36.279 right because they have to create the music. So like 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.480 it was also backwards still like we were the last 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:43.799 department to get it. So that's where those demos would 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.200 really come also in handy for us, like you guys 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.800 were recording to demos. But if we didn't have a demo, 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.120 we didn't know what the breakdown of the song was 0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.879 going to be. So we never like saw a song 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.640 and said, oh, don't stop believing, let's just reverse and 0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:00.759 make something up because without knowing who's singing, where the 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.880 storyline's going to be, Oh this is you know, this 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:08.239 is already in Tina's dialogue. They're in a fight right 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.799 now and they need to throw looks to each other 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.880 or that we're not supposed to have, you know, Finn 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:19.239 and Puck next to each other because they like yeah, 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.960 like yeah, like mister, like mister, she would be choreographing 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.080 and not putting people next to each other because now 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.279 they're in a fight, doesn't matter, that's how. But we 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.439 had to wait till we knew those moments or where 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:35.399 those partnerships are going to be coming in, So we 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.480 were guessing and then it was like how quickly could 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.560 we get a demo? How quickly could we get a demo? 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:45.040 Then can we get a breakdown? Then you know, sometimes 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.120 we never got your guys is recording till the day 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.040 of We never heard that stuff. It was like, well, 0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.640 I hope it sounds right. It always worked, it did, 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.160 but it was that was sort of the magic, but 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.440 we were it was never it was never super It 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.640 was at the beginning because the scripts were a little 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.120 bit more there and so music was a little bit faster, 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.160 meaning we were ahead of the gate, yes, you know, 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:11.680 or right on track, and then it got a little 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.680 harder when we would get behind and it'd be like, 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:16.840 well we got. 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:28.040 This in the beginning when we had more time. It 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.840 was so we probably didn't realize it either at the 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.480 time how important that was for all of us in 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.200 terms of like cohesion, because we had when the show 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.400 got picked up after the pilot, we had that full 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.520 month of like January when we were first in the 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:46.680 Tin Shed boot camp boot camp and we didn't have 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.319 episode well, we knew we had the first episode, so 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.680 we knew we had push it and whatever else is 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.399 in that episode, but we were you would like warm 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.640 us up every day we'd show up, we'd do stretches, 0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.839 you would teach us rehab just to like, you know, 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:03.560 that was yeah, that was all that was. 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.360 So you know, that was Zach just going knowing that 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.200 you guys had to learn also that how do you 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.960 muscle memory? How do you start learning faster? How do 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.759 you start picking up things. Here's a dance you guys 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.120 are all obviously familiar with. Wasn't really what you were 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.279 going to do, but it was what we were going 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.480 to get you to doing. I mean, those those lifts 0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.600 were not overhead like we were doing. Eventually a vocal 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:31.160 adrenale got psycho rehab really was the style that you 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.040 guys got up to, you know. So it was getting 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:38.160 to that stuff, which was great. You know, we loved 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:43.959 sort of that time that never ever happened ever ever. 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.680 But also, you know, the crazy thing too, was for 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.799 the first thirteen episodes, you guys weren't on the air, 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.040 so you had to I mean, it was the beauty 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:55.799 of it. You had to trust us a little bit 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.600 more and we could be meaner to you because we 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.880 could just keep saying you look horrible, you look horrible. 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.880 You look well but in a way, but you know 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:11.719 that that no, I need more that projection like and 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.960 never not saying like never being like, you guys did great, 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.120 but never like patting you too much on the back, 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.000 being like great, okay, good, we're moving on and we're 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:20.640 moving harder. 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:20.880 Like. 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.799 So there was this constant push and there was a 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.440 little bit of this fear in the sense of what 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.000 it really looked like. And because you guys never got 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.799 to see yourself on the screen, I feel like there 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.759 was a nice control that we were like and then 0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.040 and then you guys, and then you guys aired, and 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.719 then you were so good, Like it was like, oh, 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.640 well we're so good. Look how good we like? It's 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.480 like that was so hard like it was. It was 0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.200 a real sort of change because then there was a 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:50.960 little bit of well, they're just going to edit it 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.680 out if I look bad. Oh, they'll never do that, 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.920 and that was poor part of like no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.359 that's not how it works. We don't want we don't 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.520 want to edit, and we don't want to not have 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.479 to have all those things were. 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.000 Just full of close ups like that is not what 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.080 we're going right, right. 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.840 But you guys also got better, and then that process 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.200 was easier, but there was this sort of there was 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.880 a magic, well there was magic at the beginning and 0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.360 then and then like a little of that like oh gosh, 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.040 they're knowing that it's okay, and then it's like nope, 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:26.600 we're doing We're going more and more and more. So 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:30.080 like there was this little circle of time. But yeah, 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.680 you know, it was it was. I mean, it's also 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.160 just hard to figure out. How do you encor how 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.760 do you incorporate a wheelchair to look like it's smooth 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:43.800 in there? How do you put partners together of someone 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:49.000 you know, how short Tina was compared to the guys 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:53.239 were tall. You know, like nobody was misfit like we were. 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.840 We were a misfit group. 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:56.799 Yeah, I was going to say that's what it also 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.640 felt like in the beginning when Ryan would come in 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.400 or like all the department heads would come in and 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.920 like watch the number. Andrew would come in with his 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.600 iPad and film it to learn it himself. Where it 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.440 felt like because Ryan would normally have a note or 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.400 two and we would like tweak things, but we were 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.960 all sort of figuring it out together. You guys are 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.080 figuring out how to interpret the script. And then put 0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:22.280 it on us to like the adjusted depending on our ability, 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.440 and then we were all together figuring out how do 0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:30.360 we make Ryan's vision right true? Because there were so 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.160 many I mean, I think of that first season, there 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.520 wasn't a number that did not get pre approved or 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.759 pre seen by all the department, Like Lou and Mark 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:38.319 would come in. 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.040 And make seats in the front and yeah, we'd do it, 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:42.439 perform it for that I think. 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.759 I think it changed in the years later, like we 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.759 would video it, send it out to everybody, then sometimes 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.200 get that approval. We always tried to get the directors 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.520 to come by, but again it started getting harder because 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.719 the directors were shooting the episode as we're still in 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.120 the rehearsal process. And then what the real hope was 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.080 is that we did a rehearsal and there weren't going 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.000 to be any changes. I mean, that was that was 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.920 our real main goal was. It wasn't let's do this 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.720 and let's see what happens. It's let's be smart enough 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.840 that we don't get any notes. 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.760 How often do you say you guys would get notes? 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.799 I don't even remember, Like, how would you say most 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.120 of the time towards like once we got to that groove. 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.440 I don't think there was ever that many notes. I 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:32.440 mean really past the beginning, there wasn't some major I'm 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.000 trying to think if there's any major disasters. I mean, 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.160 every once in a while there'd be like, right, like 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.239 this is not what we were looking for, right, but 0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.680 but that's kind of more of like, well, but that's 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:48.960 what we said we were doing, you know at the time. Yeah, 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.879 I know, we really try or more of like no, 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.919 we need to add more like no, we actually want 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.080 three super polls now in November, and would that have 0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.080 been fun? We did that. We we did that a 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.080 lot later when we got to New York, like we 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.360 went to the clubs and we had you guys just 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:06.160 weren't always there. 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:10.800 What's wild is that, like that New York faction vocal adrenaline, 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.040 Like you weren't just choreographing new directions, You're also choreographing 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.600 all these other people in styles like everyone had their 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:22.279 own sort of like vibes like style identity and. 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.799 Do you remember this? Besides, so at the beginning the 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.600 dancer platform, So if we'll explain that what we're talking 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.000 because I don't think we actually did. 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.320 Oh yeah, literally literally there. 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:35.360 Was a dancer platform or broke platform or we kept calling, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:39.920 but I was behind the cameras up on a higher 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:44.799 level to be doing like I looked like literally like 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.360 waving lines, but I was dancing. And a lot of 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:53.040 times I would have the godlike too, talking and screaming, 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.160 like do you remember Jenna when it was the Christmas 0:46:56.239 --> 0:47:00.840 episode and it was Saturday morning and it was that 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.839 Anthony was directing, and we were all in our pajamas 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.600 and you had you hadn't even been to rehearsal, like 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.919 and not in any fault of your own, but like 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.800 you had you had never made it to literally rehearsal. 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.279 And I'm like teaching you to dance, be like how 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:18.080 do you feel? And then I'm like screaming over the 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.279 microphone and like doing this and like and you look great, 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.359 and you look great. And that became like another new 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.200 norm of doing that sort of stuff. 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:38.320 But when but but what happened is runs, Oh my gosh. 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.200 We would do all the rehearsal together. Zach would be 0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:46.000 their shoot film, start to like get you guys, make 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:51.160 sure everything was working, and then he would leave like 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.360 not not really season one, but then later like he 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.200 would go back to the studio and be working on 0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.560 the next song, and I would be staying there and 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.920 watching you guys, like stay until you guys finished shooting. 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.359 And that happened a lot, a lot, lot lot season two, 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.480 season three because we were doing so much, or he 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:11.959 would have another rehearsal, like he would go and start 0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:16.799 and have rehearsal. So that was also the crazy part 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.040 is like we were also part of when you're talking 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:22.600 about the numbers from the head to the tail, because 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:26.560 we were there as it developed. We were there till 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.880 the end, till it shot. Because you know, again most departments, 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.040 you sit there, you build the set, the set, and 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.239 then you know right and you go, great, it looks good. 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.279 We shot it, boom and then you have you know, 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.000 the art like you have the other departments take over 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:45.040 for being on set for your stuff. Same thing with costumes, design, 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.600 build great. Then you have your customers who are still 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:51.040 there with you guys. But it was just us, so 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:55.520 we were there till the end of those numbers. I 0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:59.920 mean I was also put into numbers because I need 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:06.960 to help, especially the Turkey Lurky day. I was in 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:10.839 Turkey Lurky because we never had anybody in there, so 0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:15.800 like we never had Sarah Jessica really come and Lisa 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.760 and all there, and so I mean, just watch Turkey 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.480 Lurkey because I know it's everyone's favorite. But like I 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.719 opened the door and then like I'm always presenting my 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.399 hand and then I'm like pulling people and then I'm 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.640 like push it, like I And at the same time 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.319 that that was happening. So that was in New York set, 0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:39.880 you guys were with the new New Directions shooting with 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.480 Zach on the other set, so we didn't even have 0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:46.680 someone really like watching it, and I would kept being back, 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.200 going back to here like is it like okay, I 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.640 like is it ever working? Like are we checking on that? 0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:58.360 Do you guys know? Do you guys remember my I 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.400 had to break down every number so for you know 0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.920 you talked about the scripting needs to see what it was. 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.240 I used to make a football play of every single 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:11.520 dance number. Yes, so every formation that you would be in, 0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.600 it would be x's and o's and then let's say 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.799 so let's say it was vocal adrenaline and there was 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:23.560 like only Jonathan Groff, which was what was this Jesse Jesse? Yeah, 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:26.960 so like his would all be x's maybe for the guys, 0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:29.160 and sercles for the o's and then one big J. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.319 So you I would have every formation set up and 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.239 then where he is, and then I would time code it, 0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.160 so like that was at thirty seconds, and then this 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:41.960 one's like at four because poor poor Carol Banker and 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:46.280 coor Babs like who needed to kind of follow. 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.320 Along at supervisors, right, So. 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.640 I so then I'm sitting there and we have those. 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:56.960 But then for you guys, it was every single letter 0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.000 at every so every formation change. 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.120 I did this. I had no idea. 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.680 Oh yeah. And then every once in a while, like 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.319 I would wouldn't do it ahead of time, and like 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.359 we would get to set and we were rehearsing its. 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:17.440 It's like, Breck, I'm like literally drawing the formations as 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:18.040 we're going. 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.440 How often did Za call you like post work hours 0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.880 to be like to talk like did you have homework? 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:28.399 We left work on the phone and then we would 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.799 talk all night and then we would laugh. I mean, 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:35.400 but we also, like I feel very serious right now, 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.920 we had the best time ever, laughing and hysterical and 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:43.480 loving this and like, I mean, we were just so silly. 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:47.520 We were just like we just had so much fun, 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.120 Like we were always having fun. I enjoyed being at work. 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:55.160 I enjoyed being around everybody and making everybody laugh and 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.800 being silly. But no, we were twenty four to seven 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.879 or we would finish the day, leave be at set 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:02.480 for twelve hours and be like, oh my gosh, we 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.239 got to talk about today, like we just got to 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:04.759 talk about it. 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.960 Like, well, Jenna and I lived together. It was so 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.840 good because we would come home and sort of with 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:10.920 each other debrief. 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.760 Oh, we used to have the best meetings that we spaw. 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.799 So basically this this was back when This Is War, 0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:24.440 when we were in the powerhouse, which was our So 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.719 the reason why it was called the tin shep you 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.759 guys said this because it was literally a tin ship 0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.120 because of the t it was so hot and the 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.799 bathrooms were downstairs, so you had to pee every time 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.080 you had to pee. It was a lot of pain. 0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.799 And then the powerhouse was an old powerhouse that they 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:45.520 gutted for us, like they created that. It was huge. 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:49.360 It was amazing huge. It's still there. I used I 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.759 used it last year. It was so great. Oh my god, 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.160 I want to slay home. It still has like some 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:57.520 of the faux brick wall because when we made that 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.600 in New York set and like left it, so it's 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:05.040 still it's still all designs, but usually what it's what's 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:06.960 sadly used for is a lot of like it used 0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:08.879 to be, like crew lunches would be in that room. 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.600 Oh yeah, it's a big, big place to set up. 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:16.400 It's like, oh fair, but we would we would be 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.480 sitting there and we'd like just finish an episode and 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:22.799 we're waiting for a script and waiting for music, and 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.240 it was like, I think we should have our meeting 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:29.120 today at the wee Saw. So we would go drive 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.640 to the we Spaw and think. 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:34.560 About the Koreans for people who don't know, Yes, l. 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:40.200 A twenty four hour Koreans, the guys side, the girl's side, 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:41.520 the family side. 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.160 Going after the pandemic. But man, is. 0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:50.880 So good, so good to have our meetings there. 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:52.800 Yeah, you always just made us. 0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:57.360 I always personally enjoyed dance rehearsals most of the time because, 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.520 like you would, it was like you guys were our friends, 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.480 like as much as you were our you know, our 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:06.200 teachers and our chorks, like co workers, like you were 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.400 our friends. And so we always like it's like the 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.600 relationship you have with your makeup artists, like it felt here. 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:16.120 It's so intimate and personal and you know, you always 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.880 like looked out for us, and we always laughed a lot. 0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:22.719 So it was just like like the most dances, like 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:25.439 the most amazing thing ever, Like it really is one 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:28.920 of those things where it just makes you so happy, 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:32.640 you know, or I mean there was certainly some tears 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:37.200 in that room, but lots of tears, but but not 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.560 but it no matter how frustrating was, it was like 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:42.880 that was the fun stuff, like you got to play, 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:47.799 you gotta move. We didn't take it very seriously. You know, 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:51.160 it's funny with you guys are breaking down these scripts 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.680 when you're talking to everybody, Like when you're talking to everyone, 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:58.000 it's like that wasn't for real. It's like we knew that. 0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.000 Like you can't watch he shows and be like what 0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:03.720 were they thinking? It was like right, we were thinking 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.239 exactly what you should be, like this is a joke, 0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:12.239 like this is we're making fun of ourselves. We were 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.759 being silly and like we did that. We did that 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:19.720 when we were moving and playing and trying to Like again, 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.759 the more that you guys laughed at yourself, and we 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.959 laughed at the jokes and we laughed at how ridiculous 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.719 it could be. The better it all was. 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.600 But I think it worked because you and Zach were 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:36.000 like that, Because could you imagine I can imagine all 0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.160 those hours in dance rehearsal with somebody who was like 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.520 overly serious and be like really cleaning us up and 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.239 making sure like you know, you were never going to 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:45.600 you knew what you were going to get for us, 0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:47.920 and so like you would have gone crazy if you 0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.360 were that serious about all of it all the time. 0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:55.279 And it also felt like, to Jenna's point that like 0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:58.879 dance is sort of like an equalizer where you have 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:02.440 to be vulnerable, because so many of us were not 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:05.520 comfortable doing it and we weren't that good, but you 0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.400 and Zach were like there to catch us. So everybody, 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:10.880 and especially because we had that time in the beginning 0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:13.120 to figure it all out together, everybody was sort of 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.239 I don't know, more open to each other and those 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.720 moments with you, guys, other than any other department, because 0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:22.160 I felt like you spent the most time with you, 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:25.200 we could be the most honest with you. You guys could 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.800 be honest with us or if there was this mutual 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:31.640 respect and openness that like when you're on set, there's 0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.560 like a certain level of professionalism that we like, you know, 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:35.640 the cameras are on. 0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:39.800 We had professionalism this show. 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.719 But like when we were it was more like we're 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.960 just kicking it. We're going to get it done. We 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:45.840 always didn't we're. 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:47.359 Going to get it. We're going to get it done. 0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:50.239 But you know that was I I feel like there 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:52.759 was a place you didn't have to be on you know, 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.040 you didn't have to come in and have makeup on. 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:56.359 You could have a. 0:56:56.280 --> 0:57:00.440 Really bad day reprieve from my care it likes to. 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:04.920 Talk crap about everything you could and at the same time, 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.600 you could be so dramatic about all the stuff that 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.440 was going on and then come into the dance room 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:14.600 and be like, oh, yeah, that's really not as you 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.560 guys have a harder job, and like we were like, yeah, 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:20.880 just shut up and let's do this because like. 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:24.960 Also check us and welcome. We wanted to check us well. 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.400 In the best way. It's like, you guys, it's not 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.360 that deep. Let's just do this, Let's get our job done, 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:34.680 let's have fun, Let's not take it seriously. Let's laugh 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.600 at it, let's pull our stuff together, and remember like 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.840 we are singing and dancing like we could be doing drama. 0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:43.320 You could be doing the most dramatic shakes, like you 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.680 could be doing something hard, like we just have to 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:48.200 be fools up there, and the more that you guys 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:51.120 are fools and like that, we got that out of 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.040 you and played with you. But it also was it 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.320 was a totally safe zone. I mean, and that's what 0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.680 I mean. I'm so surprised where all this conversation is gone, 0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:01.960 because I really got worried that we were only going 0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.400 to be talking about scary stories and I was gonna 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.960 have to be closing my mouth constantly and be like whoops. 0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.160 But but we just it was like that place where 0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.560 it's like nobody was watching you. 0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:16.200 Nobody you know you didn't that's a big point. 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.800 You had no makeup on. You could be so real, 0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.479 like you could be laying on the ground. You could 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.640 take you know, Corey would take top Rom and just 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.000 eat it out of Sometimes they would. 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:29.400 Have like like the boys that have like their kiss 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.360 makeup on, but like regular clothes on. 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:35.520 And You're like, this is I can't look too seriously 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:39.280 right now? But like, okay, let's work. It was also 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:41.919 like a check in, like we could remember Zac would 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:46.400 make fun of him, like one day MTV, like he'd 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:48.640 make MTV and we were in rehearsal for MTV and 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:52.440 he's like, yeah, well here. It was always like a 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:54.760 good foundation, like you guys felt like mom and dad 0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.680 in a way, but like siblings, like the older siblings 0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:00.680 that we could look up to. 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:01.960 Totally well more like we were your aunt uncle that 0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.760 we're going to kind of like give you alcohol but 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.080 like and didn't care if you had it and knew 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.520 that you were drinking it, and like you when you 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:12.920 try to hide it, like dude, you guys are totally 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:16.400 drug like you know, we we were that sort of 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.960 like we're like, absolutely, give me some too, Like I 0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:22.480 need to give me a drink. What the hell am 0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.560 I doing here? I mean, how many nights did we 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:28.760 spend until four am sitting there on set? Or you know, 0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:33.280 you guys the smelly airplane? Do you remember how bad 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:38.440 the airplane smelled? Oh my god, I tasted that was okay, 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:40.439 So that was our tour. That was the second tour 0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.720 when we were a big time because we flew. 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.080 Okay. So I learned a lot today and there's still 0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:49.160 so much more. That's like, I felt like I knew 0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.520 everything because we were so close to Brooke and Zach, 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:54.320 but there's a whole other side that we just don't know. 0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:58.440 They were so good at, like I think compartmentalizing what 0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.959 they had to do, probably because say, their sanity, because 1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:04.880 they were in charge of so much exactly. But I mean, 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.000 thank you, Brooke. I hope you like, I really enjoyed 1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:10.840 hearing that. Oh and there's still so much more. 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.800 Yes, there's there's a lot more to be said, so 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:18.280 stay tuned because there's another part coming with Brooke. But yeah, 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:20.840 I mean, it's just it was really truly fascinating to 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.680 me to hear all of all of that. 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:26.240 And that's what you really missed for now. Thanks for listening, 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:29.080 and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:31.400 really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:33.600 and leave us five stars. See you next time.