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Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna and Kevin

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss Podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Guest Edition.

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Speaker 1: We have a very very very special guest today. We

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Speaker 1: have the assistant choreographer who then became the choreographer on Glee,

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Speaker 1: Brook Lifton, half of the choreography team with Zach Woodley,

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Speaker 1: mom of dad, mom and dad brother's sister. The choreography

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Speaker 1: department of two. For most of it really was sort

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Speaker 1: of like I don't know, extended family, yes, only we

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Speaker 1: were so close to them and we talked to Brooke

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Speaker 1: and you're going to hear just how Brooke and Zach

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Speaker 1: were a part of every single aspect of the show.

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Speaker 1: And it's fascinating because they're sort of like the unsung heroes.

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Speaker 1: I think, oh total Glee and people don't realize how

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Speaker 1: much they had to do.

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Speaker 3: And without them, we wouldn't we wouldn't have Glee. So

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Speaker 3: get ready, buckle up, we get into it. This is

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Speaker 3: Brook Lipton, Part one. Brook Lipton, Everyone, Hi you guys.

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Speaker 1: I run and Zach choreographed Glee for forever from the

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Speaker 1: very beginning.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually one of twelve, only one of twelve who

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Speaker 4: actually made it from the beginning to the end, there

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Speaker 4: was like there was like an award that like, you know,

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Speaker 4: when it was like always trying to find silly things

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Speaker 4: to do, it was like, yeah, because from the pilots

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Speaker 4: of the last episode, because also people take breaks, they

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Speaker 4: came back, they were off, they had an episode off, whatever,

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Speaker 4: it was, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was there even when Zach left, you were you

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Speaker 1: were there.

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Speaker 4: I was there. I was there top to bottom, which

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Speaker 4: I love every second.

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Speaker 1: If people don't know, Brooke is one of the most

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Speaker 1: incredible dancers on the face of the earth.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Everybody lie it's a lie, but thank you

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Speaker 4: it's not. I'll take everyone has to also realized my

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Speaker 4: said like I'm so dry and sarcastic that I'm very

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Speaker 4: negative too. But I really love you guys so much

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Speaker 4: so when I keep putting myself down, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: just that's that's my that's my natural defense.

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Speaker 1: The same family.

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Speaker 2: Great, Okay, so along having danced in Hollywood and in

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Speaker 2: LA for such a long time, you've worked with literally everybody.

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Speaker 2: I particularly know you as the Brittany dancer. But yes,

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Speaker 2: you also served as the assistant choreographer on for all

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Speaker 2: how many.

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Speaker 4: Episodes we do episodes, I don't know, like music number count.

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Speaker 4: I used to think it was seven forty nine, That's

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Speaker 4: why I told everyone, but then Andrew said it was

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Speaker 4: seven forty one, So I don't know if it s

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Speaker 4: in the state. We were in this same boat. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I started as an assistant, and then I moved up

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Speaker 4: to the associate. Then I went to choreographer, then co choreographer,

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Speaker 4: so my title changed time well, but honestly, mostly we

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Speaker 4: were department of two, like it was me and Zach,

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Speaker 4: you know, and then eventually it was like, oh, we

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, more help is like it was help,

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Speaker 4: but it also there's only so many things you could do,

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Speaker 4: it's crazy. So yeah, we were probably the biggest, smallest

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Speaker 1: Ever that sounds, and you had a completely like your

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Speaker 1: relationship the show and then to us was also unique

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Speaker 1: in that way, like we had a completely the crew.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the crew saw us and you all

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Speaker 1: on set like the hundreds of people, but you had

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Speaker 4: No, No, okay, it's like I mean, okay, so I've

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Speaker 4: been listening since show Man's and stuff. It's like and

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Speaker 4: I just every time I listen, I'm like, does anyone

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Speaker 4: scoop And then they're listening to you know, Ryan and Brian,

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Speaker 4: And it's so I feel like we were the biggest

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Speaker 4: totally and with the production of the guy, you know,

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Speaker 4: We were we were in the mix of everything. I

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Speaker 4: that stuff, so we got to do with some of

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Speaker 4: the fun stuff like the performance, and we went on

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Speaker 4: do you remember the pool? Do you remember that we

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Speaker 4: Really just I mean, so I think my next question

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Speaker 4: and just break down all those numbers with you guys

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Speaker 4: every week and tell you it reminds you of the

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Speaker 1: Guys were like for lack of a better analogy or metaphor,

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Speaker 1: all the different departments that managing us were like without

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Speaker 4: Without the amazing like we had an incredible crew and

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Speaker 4: We didn't just take it. I mean obviously there was

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Speaker 4: which huge breakthrough, you know. But but that was also

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Speaker 4: that happened. It was the break of whether you're.

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Speaker 1: Shooting or that it was of the show.

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Speaker 4: Have you guys even talked about my platform? No, you

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Speaker 1: The first season, there was so much trial and error

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Speaker 4: high school, so you can't be I was twenty eight

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Speaker 4: So he was like, but would you like to assist me?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I have so many stories. You don't know about

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Speaker 2: Oh glad it doesn't. I'm glad it doesn't. Okay, you

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Speaker 4: So we meet at Starbucks and he's like, so he's

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Speaker 4: explaining the show and talking about you guys, and he's like,

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Speaker 4: I got yeah, he was probably rehearsals for with what

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we have that much time without you,

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Speaker 4: You might have done They might have done Twila before me, Like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you I was. I was there for Tila.

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Speaker 4: Was large. No, it was when we were in Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: How do you know it was me?

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Speaker 4: Like we do, but like I mean, I have all

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is also we just had so much fun

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Speaker 4: those pictures. There's like there's like these vocal adrenaline picture

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00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: It's like me and Ryan are like all post in

438
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: costume like zax Is, which also fun fact. Uh you

439
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: know when they show vocal adrenalines like feet stretching and

440
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: doing that little those sax feet, those were like jims out.

441
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, we need these shots later, and they

442
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: like put costumes on them. But it was lunch break,

443
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: and I knew the dance obviously, but I hadn't been

444
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 4: put into staging and doing all this thing. And then

445
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: lunch break thirty dancers. No one would come help me,

446
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: Like I kept texting like but we were like anyone

447
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: can someone come in like review? And I'm like, I

448
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: guess I was too mean to them.

449
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I was telling them that.

450
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 4: I get now now I'm like now I'm in and

451
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: work things and I'm like god, like everyone, okay, this,

452
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: are you warm enough? Do you want my blanket? Do

453
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: you do? Like? What can I do?

454
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: But remember at that moment so well, because what was

455
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: also magical about how you and Zach were with us.

456
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: You also built such like a great community of dancers

457
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: on the show, and so many of those dancers in

458
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: Vocal Adrenaline I had known previously to Glee, And so

459
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: that day that you guys shot Rehab, I remember hanging

460
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: out like back with all the Vocal Adrenaline people and

461
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: then finding out that one of them went down and

462
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: then you were stepping in. I was like, because it

463
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: was the we hadn't you guys were.

464
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 4: All you guys were all hanging out. You're all hanging

465
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: out having lunch, and I'm sure I'm stressing out and trying.

466
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: To re alert she knows, she's fine.

467
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: No, it was. It was an awesome group and and

468
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: I think, you know, one of my favorite things to do,

469
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: because in general, I did a lot of uh. I

470
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: went like the cat like. The way that the casting

471
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: worked is like I was still out in the world teaching,

472
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: so I was constantly being like, oh, I know all

473
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: these eighteen year olds because we really needed eighteen year olds,

474
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: people who had never worked in the industry before. So

475
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: when all that auditioning and things and bringing people in,

476
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: like we gave so many people their first jobs. We

477
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: got so many people to become into SAG and so

478
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 4: like it was like a average of like over five

479
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: hundred dancers a year would get jobs doing that, which

480
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: was so cool, Like it was so cool. And I

481
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 4: remember the first time like but we did safety Dance

482
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: and I was like, ah, we got to hire fifty people.

483
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: Like that was always so special. I think that was

484
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: part of some of my favorite memory or like moments,

485
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: is how many dancers we got it in employ and

486
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: at the same time working with production not trying to

487
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: be greedy about it. So it was like that that

488
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 4: would be that would happen. A seed would come up

489
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: and be like, okay, well how many dancers do you

490
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: think and so we would be like we would go,

491
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: I think it needs twelve and they would say, okay,

492
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: well I think eight and be like, okay, can we

493
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: get ten, you know, like we are you know, or

494
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: you know what eight is great here, We're going to

495
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: need four more, you know, to work with like whatever

496
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 4: the budget and how many we could really get into it,

497
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 4: like how many can we sell this for? You know,

498
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: because we never went back to thirty dancers for vocal adrenaline,

499
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 4: you know, then it got down to It was twenty

500
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 4: four and twenty two some episodes. It was six, you know,

501
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: like you know, it was like what could we mask

502
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: for all those things? But it was, you know, the

503
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: more the merrier.

504
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Did you know Heather from before?

505
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: Heather and I grew up at the same dance studio. Yeah,

506
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: because so we're both from Phoenix and we both were.

507
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: You guys, yeah, like two of the best. I don't

508
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: know what, and you both have like this a similar

509
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: essence about you of like when you're dancing in a group,

510
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: you can't you find you guys, and you can't take

511
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: your eyes off. I don't know what it is, but

512
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: you both have that same thing.

513
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: Well, we grow. So we grew up at the same

514
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: dance studio, so it was dance connection. It was in

515
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: Arizona and are It was all about performance. It was

516
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 4: like the attitude is look at me and don't look

517
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: at anybody else, and the person next to you is

518
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 4: they need to have that same attitude. So there needs

519
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: to be three of you up on stage all go

520
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: in look at me and don't look at everybody else,

521
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 4: and knowing that like the people next to me are

522
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 4: dancing the same way. So it's look at us. So,

523
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 4: I mean that's how we grew up. It was you

524
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: stare at yourself, and that you stare at yourself in

525
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: the mirror and you make sure that that person is

526
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: staring at you and looks hot. It does. It's It's

527
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: one of the things I still try and teach, because

528
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: I still am out there going to teach you. But

529
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: it's much harder now because we look at our phones

530
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: more than we look at ourselves.

531
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: But also from a Zona.

532
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: No, she's from Texas.

533
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I knew that, but.

534
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: You know, dancers like Haley, like I you know, I

535
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: was teaching her at twelve, so you know, and then

536
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: my sister and then like just a lot of the

537
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: people who all came through we've known for so long.

538
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: So like that's the whole thing. Like that was Haley's

539
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: first job coming.

540
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Out to She was so like little when she came

541
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: with us. Yeah, she was the youngest one out of everyone,

542
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: and we were all so like protective of her.

543
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: Now all married.

544
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, you mentioned before that you got to you

545
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 8: and Zach got to sit in because you were navigating

546
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 8: all these different departments that you get.

547
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: You got to sit in some of those production meetings

548
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: or all of the production meetings to figure out what

549
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: does this one little line mean in the script and

550
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: how is going to look on screen? What were those

551
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: meetings like, because we were never ever privy to anything.

552
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so I so I really did end up

553
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 4: doing tone stuff until he left, So I wasn't. I

554
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: wasn't doing tone meetings until season five. It was more

555
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: of like, so it would be a department head, so

556
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: you know original tone means. So that was like Zach

557
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: was there, Mark Hutman, Lou It would be like the Okay,

558
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: we need some costume, we need to know what's going on.

559
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 4: And that was just breaking things down. Ooh, I'm thinking this,

560
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm thinking this, I'm thinking this, And that's not where

561
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: you really asked necessarily all the questions. That wasn't where

562
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: you start saying, Okay, I need twelve answers, I need

563
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: this danswers. It was like, okay, I see this happening here.

564
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: And then those meetings broke down and the next thing

565
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: is you get to a production meeting, so now that

566
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 4: all of this department head's going to walk away take

567
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: all that information, then you got to kind of break

568
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: down what do we really need? How are you how

569
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: are we going to make this work? How are we

570
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: going to make this different? And then you kind of

571
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: then that next step is present and you know, mechanics

572
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: of working your way through everybody like can we do this?

573
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: Can we do this? How about this? This is our idea?

574
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: And then you present the next step. You know, then

575
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: then they present the stage looking the way they do,

576
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: or they get the drawings of the costumes. Ours was

577
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: always harder because it was like we did we never present.

578
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: We just were asking can we get can we get

579
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: some dancers? And then it's like could we get the

580
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: set made? I mean even the risers that was that

581
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: was a production because do you guys remember your baby risers?

582
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: Yes, because the first I remember even getting them period

583
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: was a thing, and then we got like a version

584
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: of them. Sorry you talk about.

585
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: It, Yeah, you know, you're absolutely right. So there was

586
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: two sets of risers because vocal adrenalines. Risers were foot

587
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: so it's a full foot step up and you guys

588
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: couldn't It wasn't that you couldn't handle it. I'll say

589
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: more that the choir room didn't allow it. We maybe

590
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: didn't need it. Well yeah, maybe a little bit of both.

591
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: But well, that's a progression of we just trying to

592
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: get step up to getting those things, but trying to

593
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: figure out how many inches you guys could dance and

594
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: step up and do levels and where we can make

595
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: the difference. And then eventually you guys did graduate and

596
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: you got full risers and you guys made it. You

597
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: guys did the whole thing. But it was funny because

598
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 4: you did like this six inch riser and like it

599
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: didn't help because Corey was still you know, Frankentine and

600
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: then you had Tater Tot down on the floor wheeling around,

601
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: and you know, it was all the levels were crazy.

602
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: I loved it.

603
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm so interested in like because you talk about all

604
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: these different departments presenting what they had to do, you

605
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: guys asking for things, and Ryan was so involved and

606
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: so much of he'd come into our rehearsals he'd personally approve,

607
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: especially in the beginning. Yes, yeah, everything, oh yeah, oh yeah.

608
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: So there was a short line that seemed like all

609
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: of you had to learn with each other because these

610
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: things also weren't happening like, oh, make a presentation, you

611
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: have a week to do it. It was like things

612
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: were getting turned around on like an afternoon or the

613
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: next day. So like, what I mean, what was it

614
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: like developing that sort of shorthand with Ryan and with

615
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: the other departments. Because also, again a lot of these

616
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: people had all come from TV were not used to

617
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: shooting musical numbers. You guys were so used to doing

618
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: musical numbers, but maybe not at this rate and with

619
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: different levels of expertise in your students. So like I

620
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: felt like you were all balancing and meeting in the

621
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: middle of Okay, we're coming together to create this thing

622
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: that is wholly unique, and we all have to learn

623
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: how much each department or Ryan needs from us to

624
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: be able to tell you, to convince you that we

625
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: know what we're doing.

626
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: Well. I honestly it was I think so much of

627
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: it was easy at the beginning, you know. Okay, so

628
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: working with Lou who did costumes, she understood that they

629
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: had a stretch, you know, that that you couldn't have

630
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 4: you needed to have a gusset and things, or if

631
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: you you know, you couldn't get a suit on if

632
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: your guys's arms didn't go past here, or that it

633
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: was worth the money to spend, you know, to buy

634
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: an eighty dollars dance shoe, then to buy the thirty

635
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: dollars dance shoe from you know wherever, or the fake heel,

636
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: but then they broke, you know, so working with people

637
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: who knew where the w earth was in the value.

638
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: And I think that also comes from obviously we had

639
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 4: an amazing production, you know, like we had Kenneth who

640
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: basically understood how to fix all these departments and say

641
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: where we could spend the money and do all this stuff,

642
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: because it was important to spend the money, like it

643
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: was important to spend the money to make this work.

644
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: And I think that's why this show did work, is

645
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: because as a department you felt valued and loved in

646
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: the sense of instead of I don't feel like we

647
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 4: had a super fight like how dare you? But also

648
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 4: in a site of like a respectful And I think

649
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: that's something I take with me with everything I do.

650
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: So like, you know, I had like seventy five dancers

651
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: on Lucifer and I just did you know, I just

652
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: worked on that new Apple Paul Royal is coming out,

653
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: Like we had seventy five dancers on that. And what

654
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: I've learned from Glee is it's not just about being

655
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: selfish it's not okay, I need seventy five d answers

656
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: and I need two weeks of rehearsal. And it's like, no, okay,

657
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: I can work with these twenty Like my days are

658
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: going to be seventy five hours a day and I

659
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: don't care, you know, but like I'm going to rehearse

660
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: like this, and I can I can then flip flop

661
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: one actor in and get them like that, like manage

662
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: time management and knowing how to be smart about what

663
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: is really needed and what is a necessity. And and

664
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: I think we all respected each other in that so

665
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 4: much that you you really went, okay, that's there's value

666
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: in that. And you had to trust what our opinion

667
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: and things were. If I said that's not safe. You

668
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: know this floor is not going to be a safe floor.

669
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: Well it looks pretty well, yeah, but they're going to fall,

670
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: Like so what is it? What is another option? How

671
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: do we make this not slippery? And do those things?

672
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: But you had everybody who wanted the best product and

673
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: the best job. No one had that ego, honestly, we

674
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: I think sometimes the hardest thing was when the years

675
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: and years go by, you get new people kind of

676
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: coming in and everyone has these great ideas and you're

677
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: kind of like, it really works like this, and they go, okay, great,

678
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: it works like this, And you know that was you know,

679
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: the only time that you had to go through changing

680
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: you had to go we had more casts, we had

681
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: more people, we had other things, but we really had

682
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: an amazing group that wanted to make the top happy

683
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: and knowing that also by treating departments well and and

684
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: and that was going to be a smart way to

685
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: do those things. So you know, we worked really hard.

686
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: You worked hard, you guys works worked hard.

687
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: We tried to make it's but also to make it

688
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: look like it was easy, like it's not. It's also

689
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: not my job to go this is so hard. This

690
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: is so difficult. It's like, oh, you have seven numbers

691
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: this episode, we don't have any music and you don't

692
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: have oarsal time and we shoot tomorrow. Great, okay, cool,

693
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: totally and we can do this, Like yeah, it was

694
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 4: dance is great.

695
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: So how did you guys manage the time given that

696
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: that was usually the case.

697
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: Well, especially as we got going, like as the season's

698
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: because in the beginning we had more time.

699
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: Oh no, more time, no, no, no, no, So we get

700
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: a script, Nanda has music, and then we have no music,

701
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: right because they have to create the music. So like

702
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: it was also backwards still like we were the last

703
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 4: department to get it. So that's where those demos would

704
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: really come also in handy for us, like you guys

705
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: were recording to demos. But if we didn't have a demo,

706
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: we didn't know what the breakdown of the song was

707
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: going to be. So we never like saw a song

708
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: and said, oh, don't stop believing, let's just reverse and

709
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: make something up because without knowing who's singing, where the

710
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: storyline's going to be, Oh this is you know, this

711
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: is already in Tina's dialogue. They're in a fight right

712
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: now and they need to throw looks to each other

713
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 4: or that we're not supposed to have, you know, Finn

714
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: and Puck next to each other because they like yeah,

715
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: like yeah, like mister, like mister, she would be choreographing

716
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: and not putting people next to each other because now

717
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: they're in a fight, doesn't matter, that's how. But we

718
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 4: had to wait till we knew those moments or where

719
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 4: those partnerships are going to be coming in, So we

720
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: were guessing and then it was like how quickly could

721
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: we get a demo? How quickly could we get a demo?

722
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: Then can we get a breakdown? Then you know, sometimes

723
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: we never got your guys is recording till the day

724
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: of We never heard that stuff. It was like, well,

725
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: I hope it sounds right. It always worked, it did,

726
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: but it was that was sort of the magic, but

727
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: we were it was never it was never super It

728
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: was at the beginning because the scripts were a little

729
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: bit more there and so music was a little bit faster,

730
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: meaning we were ahead of the gate, yes, you know,

731
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: or right on track, and then it got a little

732
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: harder when we would get behind and it'd be like,

733
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: well we got.

734
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: This in the beginning when we had more time. It

735
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: was so we probably didn't realize it either at the

736
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: time how important that was for all of us in

737
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: terms of like cohesion, because we had when the show

738
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: got picked up after the pilot, we had that full

739
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: month of like January when we were first in the

740
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Tin Shed boot camp boot camp and we didn't have

741
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: episode well, we knew we had the first episode, so

742
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: we knew we had push it and whatever else is

743
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: in that episode, but we were you would like warm

744
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: us up every day we'd show up, we'd do stretches,

745
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: you would teach us rehab just to like, you know,

746
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: that was yeah, that was all that was.

747
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 4: So you know, that was Zach just going knowing that

748
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: you guys had to learn also that how do you

749
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: muscle memory? How do you start learning faster? How do

750
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: you start picking up things. Here's a dance you guys

751
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: are all obviously familiar with. Wasn't really what you were

752
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: going to do, but it was what we were going

753
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: to get you to doing. I mean, those those lifts

754
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: were not overhead like we were doing. Eventually a vocal

755
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: adrenale got psycho rehab really was the style that you

756
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: guys got up to, you know. So it was getting

757
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: to that stuff, which was great. You know, we loved

758
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 4: sort of that time that never ever happened ever ever.

759
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: But also, you know, the crazy thing too, was for

760
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 4: the first thirteen episodes, you guys weren't on the air,

761
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: so you had to I mean, it was the beauty

762
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: of it. You had to trust us a little bit

763
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: more and we could be meaner to you because we

764
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 4: could just keep saying you look horrible, you look horrible.

765
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: You look well but in a way, but you know

766
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: that that no, I need more that projection like and

767
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: never not saying like never being like, you guys did great,

768
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: but never like patting you too much on the back,

769
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: being like great, okay, good, we're moving on and we're

770
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: moving harder.

771
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: Like.

772
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: So there was this constant push and there was a

773
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: little bit of this fear in the sense of what

774
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: it really looked like. And because you guys never got

775
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: to see yourself on the screen, I feel like there

776
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: was a nice control that we were like and then

777
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: and then you guys, and then you guys aired, and

778
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: then you were so good, Like it was like, oh,

779
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: well we're so good. Look how good we like? It's

780
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: like that was so hard like it was. It was

781
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: a real sort of change because then there was a

782
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: little bit of well, they're just going to edit it

783
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: out if I look bad. Oh, they'll never do that,

784
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: and that was poor part of like no, no, no, no, no, no,

785
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 4: that's not how it works. We don't want we don't

786
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: want to edit, and we don't want to not have

787
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 4: to have all those things were.

788
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Just full of close ups like that is not what

789
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: we're going right, right.

790
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: But you guys also got better, and then that process

791
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: was easier, but there was this sort of there was

792
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: a magic, well there was magic at the beginning and

793
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 4: then and then like a little of that like oh gosh,

794
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: they're knowing that it's okay, and then it's like nope,

795
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: we're doing We're going more and more and more. So

796
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: like there was this little circle of time. But yeah,

797
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: you know, it was it was. I mean, it's also

798
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: just hard to figure out. How do you encor how

799
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 4: do you incorporate a wheelchair to look like it's smooth

800
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: in there? How do you put partners together of someone

801
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: you know, how short Tina was compared to the guys

802
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: were tall. You know, like nobody was misfit like we were.

803
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: We were a misfit group.

804
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say that's what it also

805
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: felt like in the beginning when Ryan would come in

806
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: or like all the department heads would come in and

807
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: like watch the number. Andrew would come in with his

808
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: iPad and film it to learn it himself. Where it

809
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: felt like because Ryan would normally have a note or

810
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: two and we would like tweak things, but we were

811
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: all sort of figuring it out together. You guys are

812
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: figuring out how to interpret the script. And then put

813
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: it on us to like the adjusted depending on our ability,

814
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: and then we were all together figuring out how do

815
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: we make Ryan's vision right true? Because there were so

816
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: many I mean, I think of that first season, there

817
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a number that did not get pre approved or

818
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: pre seen by all the department, Like Lou and Mark

819
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: would come in.

820
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: And make seats in the front and yeah, we'd do it,

821
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 2: perform it for that I think.

822
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: I think it changed in the years later, like we

823
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: would video it, send it out to everybody, then sometimes

824
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: get that approval. We always tried to get the directors

825
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: to come by, but again it started getting harder because

826
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: the directors were shooting the episode as we're still in

827
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: the rehearsal process. And then what the real hope was

828
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: is that we did a rehearsal and there weren't going

829
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: to be any changes. I mean, that was that was

830
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: our real main goal was. It wasn't let's do this

831
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 4: and let's see what happens. It's let's be smart enough

832
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: that we don't get any notes.

833
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 2: How often do you say you guys would get notes?

834
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: I don't even remember, Like, how would you say most

835
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: of the time towards like once we got to that groove.

836
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: I don't think there was ever that many notes. I

837
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: mean really past the beginning, there wasn't some major I'm

838
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: trying to think if there's any major disasters. I mean,

839
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: every once in a while there'd be like, right, like

840
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: this is not what we were looking for, right, but

841
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: but that's kind of more of like, well, but that's

842
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: what we said we were doing, you know at the time. Yeah,

843
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 4: I know, we really try or more of like no,

844
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: we need to add more like no, we actually want

845
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: three super polls now in November, and would that have

846
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: been fun? We did that. We we did that a

847
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: lot later when we got to New York, like we

848
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: went to the clubs and we had you guys just

849
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: weren't always there.

850
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: What's wild is that, like that New York faction vocal adrenaline,

851
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Like you weren't just choreographing new directions, You're also choreographing

852
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: all these other people in styles like everyone had their

853
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: own sort of like vibes like style identity and.

854
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: Do you remember this? Besides, so at the beginning the

855
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: dancer platform, So if we'll explain that what we're talking

856
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: because I don't think we actually did.

857
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, literally literally there.

858
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: Was a dancer platform or broke platform or we kept calling,

859
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: but I was behind the cameras up on a higher

860
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: level to be doing like I looked like literally like

861
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: waving lines, but I was dancing. And a lot of

862
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: times I would have the godlike too, talking and screaming,

863
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: like do you remember Jenna when it was the Christmas

864
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: episode and it was Saturday morning and it was that

865
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 4: Anthony was directing, and we were all in our pajamas

866
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: and you had you hadn't even been to rehearsal, like

867
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 4: and not in any fault of your own, but like

868
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 4: you had you had never made it to literally rehearsal.

869
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: And I'm like teaching you to dance, be like how

870
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 4: do you feel? And then I'm like screaming over the

871
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: microphone and like doing this and like and you look great,

872
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: and you look great. And that became like another new

873
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: norm of doing that sort of stuff.

874
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 5: But when but but what happened is runs, Oh my gosh.

875
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: We would do all the rehearsal together. Zach would be

876
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: their shoot film, start to like get you guys, make

877
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: sure everything was working, and then he would leave like

878
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: not not really season one, but then later like he

879
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: would go back to the studio and be working on

880
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: the next song, and I would be staying there and

881
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: watching you guys, like stay until you guys finished shooting.

882
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 4: And that happened a lot, a lot, lot lot season two,

883
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: season three because we were doing so much, or he

884
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 4: would have another rehearsal, like he would go and start

885
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 4: and have rehearsal. So that was also the crazy part

886
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: is like we were also part of when you're talking

887
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: about the numbers from the head to the tail, because

888
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: we were there as it developed. We were there till

889
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 4: the end, till it shot. Because you know, again most departments,

890
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: you sit there, you build the set, the set, and

891
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: then you know right and you go, great, it looks good.

892
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: We shot it, boom and then you have you know,

893
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 4: the art like you have the other departments take over

894
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: for being on set for your stuff. Same thing with costumes, design,

895
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 4: build great. Then you have your customers who are still

896
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: there with you guys. But it was just us, so

897
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: we were there till the end of those numbers. I

898
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: mean I was also put into numbers because I need

899
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: to help, especially the Turkey Lurky day. I was in

900
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 4: Turkey Lurky because we never had anybody in there, so

901
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: like we never had Sarah Jessica really come and Lisa

902
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 4: and all there, and so I mean, just watch Turkey

903
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: Lurkey because I know it's everyone's favorite. But like I

904
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: opened the door and then like I'm always presenting my

905
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 4: hand and then I'm like pulling people and then I'm

906
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: like push it, like I And at the same time

907
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: that that was happening. So that was in New York set,

908
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 4: you guys were with the new New Directions shooting with

909
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: Zach on the other set, so we didn't even have

910
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: someone really like watching it, and I would kept being back,

911
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: going back to here like is it like okay, I

912
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: like is it ever working? Like are we checking on that?

913
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: Do you guys know? Do you guys remember my I

914
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: had to break down every number so for you know

915
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 4: you talked about the scripting needs to see what it was.

916
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 4: I used to make a football play of every single

917
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: dance number. Yes, so every formation that you would be in,

918
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: it would be x's and o's and then let's say

919
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: so let's say it was vocal adrenaline and there was

920
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: like only Jonathan Groff, which was what was this Jesse Jesse? Yeah,

921
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: so like his would all be x's maybe for the guys,

922
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: and sercles for the o's and then one big J.

923
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 4: So you I would have every formation set up and

924
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: then where he is, and then I would time code it,

925
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: so like that was at thirty seconds, and then this

926
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: one's like at four because poor poor Carol Banker and

927
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 4: coor Babs like who needed to kind of follow.

928
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: Along at supervisors, right, So.

929
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: I so then I'm sitting there and we have those.

930
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: But then for you guys, it was every single letter

931
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: at every so every formation change.

932
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: I did this. I had no idea.

933
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And then every once in a while, like

934
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: I would wouldn't do it ahead of time, and like

935
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: we would get to set and we were rehearsing its.

936
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 4: It's like, Breck, I'm like literally drawing the formations as

937
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: we're going.

938
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: How often did Za call you like post work hours

939
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: to be like to talk like did you have homework?

940
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 4: We left work on the phone and then we would

941
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: talk all night and then we would laugh. I mean,

942
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: but we also, like I feel very serious right now,

943
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: we had the best time ever, laughing and hysterical and

944
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: loving this and like, I mean, we were just so silly.

945
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: We were just like we just had so much fun,

946
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: Like we were always having fun. I enjoyed being at work.

947
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: I enjoyed being around everybody and making everybody laugh and

948
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 4: being silly. But no, we were twenty four to seven

949
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 4: or we would finish the day, leave be at set

950
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: for twelve hours and be like, oh my gosh, we

951
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: got to talk about today, like we just got to

952
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: talk about it.

953
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Like, well, Jenna and I lived together. It was so

954
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: good because we would come home and sort of with

955
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: each other debrief.

956
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 4: Oh, we used to have the best meetings that we spaw.

957
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 4: So basically this this was back when This Is War,

958
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 4: when we were in the powerhouse, which was our So

959
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: the reason why it was called the tin shep you

960
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: guys said this because it was literally a tin ship

961
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: because of the t it was so hot and the

962
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: bathrooms were downstairs, so you had to pee every time

963
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: you had to pee. It was a lot of pain.

964
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 4: And then the powerhouse was an old powerhouse that they

965
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: gutted for us, like they created that. It was huge.

966
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 4: It was amazing huge. It's still there. I used I

967
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 4: used it last year. It was so great. Oh my god,

968
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: I want to slay home. It still has like some

969
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: of the faux brick wall because when we made that

970
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: in New York set and like left it, so it's

971
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: still it's still all designs, but usually what it's what's

972
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: sadly used for is a lot of like it used

973
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 4: to be, like crew lunches would be in that room.

974
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a big, big place to set up.

975
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 4: It's like, oh fair, but we would we would be

976
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: sitting there and we'd like just finish an episode and

977
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: we're waiting for a script and waiting for music, and

978
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 4: it was like, I think we should have our meeting

979
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 4: today at the wee Saw. So we would go drive

980
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: to the we Spaw and think.

981
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: About the Koreans for people who don't know, Yes, l.

982
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 4: A twenty four hour Koreans, the guys side, the girl's side,

983
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: the family side.

984
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Going after the pandemic. But man, is.

985
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: So good, so good to have our meetings there.

986
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always just made us.

987
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: I always personally enjoyed dance rehearsals most of the time because,

988
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: like you would, it was like you guys were our friends,

989
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: like as much as you were our you know, our

990
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: teachers and our chorks, like co workers, like you were

991
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: our friends. And so we always like it's like the

992
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: relationship you have with your makeup artists, like it felt here.

993
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: It's so intimate and personal and you know, you always

994
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: like looked out for us, and we always laughed a lot.

995
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 4: So it was just like like the most dances, like

996
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 4: the most amazing thing ever, Like it really is one

997
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 4: of those things where it just makes you so happy,

998
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: you know, or I mean there was certainly some tears

999
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: in that room, but lots of tears, but but not

1000
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 4: but it no matter how frustrating was, it was like

1001
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 4: that was the fun stuff, like you got to play,

1002
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 4: you gotta move. We didn't take it very seriously. You know,

1003
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: it's funny with you guys are breaking down these scripts

1004
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: when you're talking to everybody, Like when you're talking to everyone,

1005
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: it's like that wasn't for real. It's like we knew that.

1006
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: Like you can't watch he shows and be like what

1007
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 4: were they thinking? It was like right, we were thinking

1008
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 4: exactly what you should be, like this is a joke,

1009
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 4: like this is we're making fun of ourselves. We were

1010
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: being silly and like we did that. We did that

1011
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 4: when we were moving and playing and trying to Like again,

1012
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: the more that you guys laughed at yourself, and we

1013
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 4: laughed at the jokes and we laughed at how ridiculous

1014
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 4: it could be. The better it all was.

1015
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: But I think it worked because you and Zach were

1016
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: like that, Because could you imagine I can imagine all

1017
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: those hours in dance rehearsal with somebody who was like

1018
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: overly serious and be like really cleaning us up and

1019
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: making sure like you know, you were never going to

1020
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: you knew what you were going to get for us,

1021
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: and so like you would have gone crazy if you

1022
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: were that serious about all of it all the time.

1023
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: And it also felt like, to Jenna's point that like

1024
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: dance is sort of like an equalizer where you have

1025
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable, because so many of us were not

1026
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it and we weren't that good, but you

1027
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: and Zach were like there to catch us. So everybody,

1028
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: and especially because we had that time in the beginning

1029
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: to figure it all out together, everybody was sort of

1030
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, more open to each other and those

1031
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: moments with you, guys, other than any other department, because

1032
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: I felt like you spent the most time with you,

1033
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: we could be the most honest with you. You guys could

1034
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: be honest with us or if there was this mutual

1035
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: respect and openness that like when you're on set, there's

1036
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: like a certain level of professionalism that we like, you know,

1037
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: the cameras are on.

1038
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 4: We had professionalism this show.

1039
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: But like when we were it was more like we're

1040
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: just kicking it. We're going to get it done. We

1041
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: always didn't we're.

1042
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 4: Going to get it. We're going to get it done.

1043
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: But you know that was I I feel like there

1044
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: was a place you didn't have to be on you know,

1045
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: you didn't have to come in and have makeup on.

1046
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 4: You could have a.

1047
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: Really bad day reprieve from my care it likes to.

1048
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: Talk crap about everything you could and at the same time,

1049
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: you could be so dramatic about all the stuff that

1050
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: was going on and then come into the dance room

1051
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, yeah, that's really not as you

1052
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: guys have a harder job, and like we were like, yeah,

1053
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: just shut up and let's do this because like.

1054
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Also check us and welcome. We wanted to check us well.

1055
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: In the best way. It's like, you guys, it's not

1056
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 4: that deep. Let's just do this, Let's get our job done,

1057
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 4: let's have fun, Let's not take it seriously. Let's laugh

1058
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: at it, let's pull our stuff together, and remember like

1059
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: we are singing and dancing like we could be doing drama.

1060
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: You could be doing the most dramatic shakes, like you

1061
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: could be doing something hard, like we just have to

1062
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: be fools up there, and the more that you guys

1063
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 4: are fools and like that, we got that out of

1064
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: you and played with you. But it also was it

1065
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: was a totally safe zone. I mean, and that's what

1066
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: I mean. I'm so surprised where all this conversation is gone,

1067
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 4: because I really got worried that we were only going

1068
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: to be talking about scary stories and I was gonna

1069
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 4: have to be closing my mouth constantly and be like whoops.

1070
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: But but we just it was like that place where

1071
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: it's like nobody was watching you.

1072
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: Nobody you know you didn't that's a big point.

1073
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 4: You had no makeup on. You could be so real,

1074
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 4: like you could be laying on the ground. You could

1075
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: take you know, Corey would take top Rom and just

1076
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: eat it out of Sometimes they would.

1077
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: Have like like the boys that have like their kiss

1078
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: makeup on, but like regular clothes on.

1079
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: And You're like, this is I can't look too seriously

1080
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: right now? But like, okay, let's work. It was also

1081
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 1: like a check in, like we could remember Zac would

1082
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: make fun of him, like one day MTV, like he'd

1083
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Speaker 1: make MTV and we were in rehearsal for MTV and

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Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, well here. It was always like a

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Speaker 1: good foundation, like you guys felt like mom and dad

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Speaker 1: in a way, but like siblings, like the older siblings

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Speaker 1: that we could look up to.

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Speaker 4: Totally well more like we were your aunt uncle that

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Speaker 4: we're going to kind of like give you alcohol but

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Speaker 4: like and didn't care if you had it and knew

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Speaker 4: that you were drinking it, and like you when you

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Speaker 4: try to hide it, like dude, you guys are totally

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Speaker 4: drug like you know, we we were that sort of

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Speaker 4: like we're like, absolutely, give me some too, Like I

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Speaker 4: need to give me a drink. What the hell am

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Speaker 4: I doing here? I mean, how many nights did we

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Speaker 4: spend until four am sitting there on set? Or you know,

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Speaker 4: you guys the smelly airplane? Do you remember how bad

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Speaker 4: the airplane smelled? Oh my god, I tasted that was okay,

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Speaker 4: So that was our tour. That was the second tour

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Speaker 4: when we were a big time because we flew.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So I learned a lot today and there's still

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Speaker 1: so much more. That's like, I felt like I knew

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Speaker 1: everything because we were so close to Brooke and Zach,

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Speaker 1: but there's a whole other side that we just don't know.

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Speaker 1: They were so good at, like I think compartmentalizing what

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Speaker 1: they had to do, probably because say, their sanity, because

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Speaker 1: they were in charge of so much exactly. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Brooke. I hope you like, I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: hearing that. Oh and there's still so much more.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's there's a lot more to be said, so

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Speaker 2: stay tuned because there's another part coming with Brooke. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it was really truly fascinating to

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Speaker 2: me to hear all of all of that.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed for now. Thanks for listening,

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