Speaker 1: In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we are
Speaker 1: previewing the Giants. Are they really as bad as their
Speaker 1: one in five records? I don't think so. I love
Speaker 1: that we're gonna preview the offense and defense. Tanna never
Speaker 1: fall for the banana and the tailpipe, right, don't do it.
Speaker 1: They got some talented people on this team. We gotta
Speaker 1: be careful. And you can't eat a tomato without teeth.
Speaker 2: You can't, dummy.
Speaker 1: And Fred, this is maybe my favorite moment of this show.
Speaker 1: You get caught in a giant line. Check it out
Speaker 1: in the other.
Speaker 3: And never believe it.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot, who's wearing the same shirt from last episode.
Speaker 2: That's tough, thank you, that's tough.
Speaker 1: And then Santana Moss always impeccably dressed.
Speaker 2: And by the way, you live like Owen Wilson.
Speaker 1: I do. Thank you. Was like a handsome guy, right,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I mean he's got crooked nose, but
Speaker 1: that's crooked nose. Guys gotta stick to Yeah, I understand it.
Speaker 1: You can't all be devilishly hands I'm like, that's.
Speaker 2: Who you should be for Halloween. Wow, he's just you've.
Speaker 1: Been watching love Yeah, all right, so guys Giants this week? Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, man, did you just start off with a
Speaker 1: start to show?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't help itself.
Speaker 4: So many but so many years I've here in this
Speaker 4: side of me. Man, it just comes out.
Speaker 1: Of this show.
Speaker 5: And we hate the Giants. Man, we just can't beat them.
Speaker 5: It's something about the Giants. I couldn't beat him with
Speaker 5: straight hand and OC and we can't beat them now.
Speaker 5: It's it's sickening into my stomach when the team has
Speaker 5: your number.
Speaker 3: I show this with my brother.
Speaker 4: My brother played with the Giants, he played on the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl team, and I told him, I say, bro,
Speaker 4: you know, it's so crazy.
Speaker 3: The year we finally beat you out twice.
Speaker 1: That's the year.
Speaker 3: Like, it's just crazy. How crazy is that? Like the
Speaker 3: Giants has always been a tough team.
Speaker 4: Like we talked more about the Cowboys when we get ready,
Speaker 4: you know, match up against them, you might you know,
Speaker 4: talk a little bit about the Eagles. The Eagles always
Speaker 4: tough to but the Giants that seemed like those guys
Speaker 4: just to be like, come on over here, we want
Speaker 4: washing it saying that guy in the neighborhood that you say,
Speaker 4: I ain't going on that block.
Speaker 3: Always that dude always funking.
Speaker 1: Me on it. It's weird because everybody else seems to
Speaker 1: be able to mess them up, but they kind of
Speaker 1: got your.
Speaker 2: They destroy us.
Speaker 3: I'm matter what happens the game we have every now
Speaker 3: and then it just happened.
Speaker 1: We all. I guess matchups make fights. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about this real quick, high level thoughts, right Why because
Speaker 1: they were pretty good last year, went to the playoffs, obviously,
Speaker 1: why are they so bad this year?
Speaker 2: Office Blade?
Speaker 5: Oh, they can't block your grandmother. Your grandmama could spin
Speaker 5: move off of the him and swim them to Neil.
Speaker 5: Like they all talk about us about not putting a
Speaker 5: draft capitol into the officive line. They put great draft
Speaker 5: capital into the offensive line, only to find.
Speaker 2: Out they stink.
Speaker 5: Not only do they stink, they can't protect Jones even
Speaker 5: for three seconds.
Speaker 2: They're not making big holes for sake.
Speaker 4: Kawon Barkley they see because shockingly is better than people.
Speaker 2: Think they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but think you can't there's no production from that.
Speaker 4: You can't blocking them by I saw a stat that day,
Speaker 4: was watching the game, and they had they was showing
Speaker 4: the office of starting guys and like you know behind,
Speaker 4: you know, not behind, but right up under every starting guy.
Speaker 4: They showed like okay, five touchdowns this and that, you know,
Speaker 4: twenty something starts. This is what they said for their
Speaker 4: officer line.
Speaker 3: It tripped me. I had to I always had to
Speaker 3: take a picture of it, write it down.
Speaker 4: It said, it went name by name, Justin Pugh first
Speaker 4: game since twenty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it said Joshua.
Speaker 4: E Zu from North Carolina tied for second with five
Speaker 4: sacks giving up this year, being uh Retison one sat
Speaker 4: giving up this year. And then the other guy, Mark Glawinsky,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna mess somebody time, tied for second with five
Speaker 4: sacks giving up. And then you had your guy Nevin
Speaker 4: he had twenty six pressures. I think he's tied for first.
Speaker 4: A second, like, I was looking at that, like, bro,
Speaker 4: what type of what tad stat line is that for
Speaker 4: your start officer line? So you asked the question about
Speaker 4: you know, what is their problem is?
Speaker 3: It's the officer line.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a I mean it's glarings sitting there
Speaker 4: right in front of your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think also like last year, people look
Speaker 1: at them and they say, oh, you know they were
Speaker 1: ten win team, nine win teams something like that.
Speaker 2: They won those game by one.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. They were in a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of one score games, and analytically like that's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest statistics to regress the Minnesota Vikings because
Speaker 1: they said the.
Speaker 5: Two teams that had their state line. I think this
Speaker 5: year because them games.
Speaker 3: We know they were lucky.
Speaker 2: It was all about it.
Speaker 4: And then I can say this also, you got to
Speaker 4: think last year we saw the uh, the re emergence
Speaker 4: of Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3: This year, what happened a lot of these games that they've.
Speaker 4: Been losing early he has been running in rushing and
Speaker 4: then last the couple nights ago when he came back
Speaker 4: into the lineup, you saw the offense move a little
Speaker 4: better again. Because I think it's all about Sakaron Barkley.
Speaker 4: And that's why say Kauanasad are trying to get his
Speaker 4: money because he knew you went and gave you would
Speaker 4: and gave his quarterback the money. But sat Quanders were
Speaker 4: the guy who's really kind of running. He's the leader
Speaker 4: of that ship. He makes that boat go. So I
Speaker 4: feel like you know what company you got, do not
Speaker 4: pay a guy by the name of Daniel Jones. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm telling at the other day. That set Taylor
Speaker 4: is right.
Speaker 2: That offense ticks through sad.
Speaker 1: Okay, time out, let's talk about this. Let's le's let's
Speaker 1: pin down on this for a second. So last year,
Speaker 1: in terms of their offensive production, the offense went through
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4: It did, but it was bit because Daniel Jones miraculously
Speaker 4: found ways to and not lose a game. Like you
Speaker 4: saw a big jump from Daniel Jones from years prior,
Speaker 4: because he was doing one thing better than everything. He
Speaker 4: he was basically making the right decision.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna throw the ball into the other team's hand,
Speaker 3: and I'm an.
Speaker 4: Run athletic ability that that year, last year, more than
Speaker 4: any year, he shows you that. Man, guess what, I'm
Speaker 4: a better runner than these people give me, So let
Speaker 4: me go out here and do this. He extended drives
Speaker 4: with his legs and made sure he didn't get the
Speaker 4: ball away.
Speaker 3: And that's why they want.
Speaker 4: They was in games and had those chances to win
Speaker 4: those one and two or three point games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're They're pretty bad in every offensive Statistico category
Speaker 1: except for explosive runs. Their eighteenth in the NFL, which
Speaker 1: isn't great, but over half of those runs are Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones scrambles or zone reads. So I do think that
Speaker 1: even though Sa Kwan and some of these other guys
Speaker 1: get the headline like it to your point ten, I
Speaker 1: think that's a really good nuanced take there. It's it's
Speaker 1: when he's making good decisions, he is the offense because
Speaker 1: physically he's got the arm, he got the athleticism to
Speaker 1: kind of elevate that group. But man, I hate to
Speaker 1: like harp on and beat a dead horse, Like there
Speaker 1: are games where you're watching the film and they cannot
Speaker 1: do anything. They cannot do anything offensively because anytime they
Speaker 1: drop back to pass, anytime they're in a third and
Speaker 1: anything like third and seven.
Speaker 4: He reminded me of back when I was with the
Speaker 4: Jets and Patrick Ramsey was a start at here with
Speaker 4: the It could be when I say it's a difference
Speaker 4: between Sam Howell getting sacked and Patrick Ramsey getting sacked.
Speaker 3: Yes, Patrick Ramsey used to.
Speaker 4: Drop back and Cooch Ferris in that film comes. I
Speaker 4: mean he was like by and he was taking those
Speaker 4: hits like those hits like, man, you don't hit my
Speaker 4: son like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's a difference, And I think that's what I saw
Speaker 4: with you know, Daniel Jones. He was getting he was
Speaker 4: taking so many of those hits those previous years to
Speaker 4: where he was shell shocked a lot, you know, a
Speaker 4: lot of those games where he played and he was
Speaker 4: getting sacked. He was almost getting self sacked because he
Speaker 4: was shell shocked. It was sales shocked from years before.
Speaker 4: So I look at I look at Patrick Ramsey going
Speaker 4: through that, and I seen I saw that, you know,
Speaker 4: I saw that in Daniel Jones, and then last year
Speaker 4: it was a total different Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: And just to double click on that for a second,
Speaker 1: Like there's a difference between Sam Howse sacks in the
Speaker 1: sense that Sam how like there's a pocket, Yeah, pockets
Speaker 1: like a pocket and Sam you know, I'd say, I'd
Speaker 1: say he getting.
Speaker 4: Tackled more than getting it, getting blown up his progressions and.
Speaker 1: Then he's and like there are times where it's true
Speaker 1: sacks as quick wins, but there's oftentimes where he's running
Speaker 1: in the pressure, he's trying to extend, like it's a
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks issue. When you watch the Giants to Tannis Point,
Speaker 1: they're one of those five guys is giving up a
Speaker 1: quick win, blowing like a quick win, and it's like
Speaker 1: everyone's on Daniel Jones for not being productive. But I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, what is this man supposed to do?
Speaker 1: And like it's if the game, if the game flow
Speaker 1: gets out of whack at all, they have to pass
Speaker 1: at all, It's like, well just throw it out the window.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Like it's one of those things where I
Speaker 5: can't do my job because other people ain't doing their job.
Speaker 5: So but the quarterback takes the blunt of the blame
Speaker 5: for this. Like Daniel Jones to me, not a great quarterback,
Speaker 5: but he ain't no bad quarterator.
Speaker 1: He can do things with his feet.
Speaker 2: I'm just sorry, and he's not set up.
Speaker 4: And then I had to ask my iself, who would
Speaker 4: I rather face this week? Tyro Daniel Jones, Like I'm
Speaker 4: fighting with it. I think that I think, And we
Speaker 4: were talking about this before you got here, because you
Speaker 4: know you always late, thank you, so you know, Tyrod
Speaker 4: Taylor to me is a better quarterback and this is
Speaker 4: this for my opinion, I felt like when I watched
Speaker 4: him playing the game of the night. He got the
Speaker 4: ball precisely out of his hand quick enough, he was accurate, uh,
Speaker 4: he ran with the ball when he needed to. But
Speaker 4: he gave them opportunities at the opportunity to be in
Speaker 4: that game. But I also can give a lot of
Speaker 4: credit to just that stabo old team it was facing.
Speaker 4: You know, that team probably took on a different mantra
Speaker 4: that whole week. Knew everything about that team too, so
Speaker 4: they got a chance to play them differently. But when
Speaker 4: I watched, when I kind of compared the film of
Speaker 4: watching a couple of games with Daniel Jones, everything's jittery
Speaker 4: at times and at times he's accurate.
Speaker 3: At times he's throwing the ball over their heads.
Speaker 4: So I will say I give Tyrod Taylor a better
Speaker 4: might be a better athlete when it comes to just
Speaker 4: you know, total package. But Daniel Jones fixed what they
Speaker 4: do way way better than Tyrod Taylor. And he understands
Speaker 4: what we do good up front. And that's why he
Speaker 4: beats us because he say, let these guys fly feel
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take in the part scene and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take off get ten yards, and he understands two critical
Speaker 4: downs when I have to get a first down. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna sit here and read. I'm gonna take off
Speaker 4: because I see the lanes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But I also seen Darren Waller make some plays which
Speaker 5: I haven't seen this year, one.
Speaker 3: Or two of them.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's hold let's hold on up for one second.
Speaker 1: So last question in this segment for the kind of
Speaker 1: the top end high value, So are they as bad
Speaker 1: as one in five?
Speaker 2: It don't matter. They're playing us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're playing us. I don't care what they record is.
Speaker 4: We ain't got over this hurdle of this mountain yet.
Speaker 4: We have to beat New York and we have to
Speaker 4: constantly beat New York. But like Tanna, say that we
Speaker 4: beat them twice, they go into the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just crazy, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would say that they are they're they're
Speaker 1: not playing good football right now. And that's not to
Speaker 1: say that they.
Speaker 4: Can't circuit on that schedule right games. This is a team, right,
Speaker 4: let's get our step together this week.
Speaker 1: I'm with it all right, So let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more detailed about what they like to do. So
Speaker 1: what type of offense do they run? And then what
Speaker 1: type of defense can we inspect? So let's sat it
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football. What type offense
Speaker 1: do they run? And I guess I'll start here because
Speaker 1: like I was watching film earlier, so what I see
Speaker 1: is an offense. It's very similar last year, right, multiple
Speaker 1: tighten they want to live in like this multiple tight
Speaker 1: end set life. They want to move, They want to
Speaker 1: move the pocket right on these boot on these boots
Speaker 1: and keepers, which is what they did a great job
Speaker 1: last year. And it's not gonna be the same way
Speaker 1: that Atlanta did it. They're gonna have an extra blocker
Speaker 1: to block that defensive end. Get them out. You are
Speaker 1: having the field. But when your protection is so bad,
Speaker 1: like there needs to be a solution, Like they can't
Speaker 1: even they have a hard time with play action. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's how bad this group is in terms of
Speaker 1: pass protection. So they have to get them out of
Speaker 1: the pocket. Sprints rolls. What I would say a huge
Speaker 1: priority for Jack is keep that son of a gun
Speaker 1: in there, Tyrod or Daniel Jones in front of you, state,
Speaker 1: keep him in, keep him in that tackle box, and
Speaker 1: be like, bro, you gotta beat us from in here,
Speaker 1: because we will, Like John Allen deron paint. We're gonna
Speaker 1: bring pressures, we're gonna look like and because it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. So that's offensively, it's a it's a West
Speaker 1: Coast offense. They want to kind of you know, spread
Speaker 1: your horizontally and then be very selective about when they
Speaker 1: want to take their shots vertically down the football field.
Speaker 1: And the problem again, I hate to beat a dead horse,
Speaker 1: but me, they can't get the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: They are thirty thirty second in passing yards in the NFL,
Speaker 1: thirty first and explosive air yard plays like they have
Speaker 1: a dude, they have a hard time getting that ball
Speaker 1: down the field because I mean, obviously they have explosive guys.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Slayton, They've got Wallert, They've got explosive weapons,
Speaker 1: and like all of their explosive plays near came in
Speaker 1: the Arizona game, you know what I mean, like when
Speaker 1: they had that big comeback. So when you look at it,
Speaker 1: because they cannot pass protect, the offense is like stagnant.
Speaker 1: It's moving or it's within ten yards of line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: and outside of that it's rough. And they want to
Speaker 1: run the ball. But I don't care if I'm a
Speaker 1: safety and i don't have to worry about anything deep.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand right there at ten yard and when
Speaker 1: I'm coming down here, and when I see and get
Speaker 1: that ball, I'm like, what's up?
Speaker 2: Pro I'm hitting them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's what I think about the offense. And
Speaker 1: I think defensively, Fred, Yeah, you can game plan for that.
Speaker 2: I think the defense is better than then they getting props.
Speaker 1: So let's talk offense. I'm saying, commanders, defense, how would
Speaker 1: you game plan for that offense?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna actually play these guys. I know y'all don't
Speaker 4: want to hear this.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna play a man, and I'm going plus
Speaker 5: two on the rush I'm getting I want I want
Speaker 5: them to play from behind, and the only way I
Speaker 5: can make them play from behind is to get at
Speaker 5: them early. Now, my first hand plan get out them
Speaker 5: second hand playing play with the shape, but I'm going
Speaker 5: to attack them first. I want them always behind the chains.
Speaker 5: You just said it.
Speaker 4: They're not good and third and six plus I want
Speaker 4: to make sure they're not.
Speaker 5: Looking third and two in the face. And the only
Speaker 5: way I can do that iss all early and often.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if I got Dan you Jones in there.
Speaker 4: He's coming coming back from being being being a little hamper.
Speaker 4: I might take that approach, But when I watched Tyrod
Speaker 4: Taylor and he's.
Speaker 1: A much better scrambled scrambler.
Speaker 4: They moved the pocket with him earlier in that game
Speaker 4: against Buffalo to where they had to change up what
Speaker 4: they was doing. They were trying to bring a guy
Speaker 4: here and there, and when he got outside that pocket,
Speaker 4: pink dame slating down the sideline being waller, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, being what the guy name is the Hyatt?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, uh, little Robinson truth.
Speaker 4: So Tyrod Taylor in there, I'm I'm backing off of
Speaker 4: trying to bring too many people that took at the
Speaker 4: wrong times.
Speaker 3: He was finding the ways to get that ball to him.
Speaker 4: Now where they beat up Dang Jones kind of little
Speaker 4: getting back into the groove of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might get him back. Share I want.
Speaker 4: I want to bring a guy to him, make him think,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, But we also know he
Speaker 4: knows us.
Speaker 3: He's gonna try to run up out of there.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm blitching here. I'm blitting him to not
Speaker 5: give him any lanes. But Cody Barton showed you sending
Speaker 5: me downhill. I'm not good at catching, but I am
Speaker 5: good going.
Speaker 1: Down He that was that was a changing play style
Speaker 1: by Cody, to give him credit, but so to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, if you can stop the keeper game, the
Speaker 1: boots where he's getting out of the pocket, if you
Speaker 1: can stop that kind of stuff. Their offense, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say is toothless, but there's not a lot
Speaker 1: So can you keep him in there?
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I don't know if you
Speaker 1: bring pressure to do that or if you just coach
Speaker 1: the defensive buttons up differently, but.
Speaker 2: To do it all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you. Was that related to what I
Speaker 1: was talking about it, I said Toothless big album.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about the damn I would think I
Speaker 4: was thinking about a tomato, you know, with that tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's that's the high level thoughts on
Speaker 1: the offense. And I get you keep bringing this out
Speaker 1: and I want to bring this home. Tyrod Taylor is
Speaker 1: a better He's a better scrambler in the pocket.
Speaker 2: Because he scrambles to throw Jones scrambles to.
Speaker 1: Think there's something to that.
Speaker 4: So maybe a Jones deer in the head like Tyrod,
Speaker 4: Like nah, I am the head, like I can see everything,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how he looks in game
Speaker 1: two because I always think backup quarterbacks look really good
Speaker 1: because this team doesn't have any film on him. Yeah
Speaker 1: and then but yeah, so I think that's the offense now.
Speaker 1: Defensively a little bit more fun to talk about. But
Speaker 1: they're not playing that great either, Yea, Fred, what do
Speaker 1: you see.
Speaker 5: Any wink morning Dale defense? I am afraid of. I
Speaker 5: respect Tribadeou. He loves playing us, him and little I
Speaker 5: don't know what kind of relationship they got, but it
Speaker 5: ain't good. Indeed, you got big Lawrence, Lawrence makes plays
Speaker 5: man that linebacking cool.
Speaker 2: I forgot the linebacker names. I can't pronounce it.
Speaker 3: Mcfatten forty one.
Speaker 1: And oh the other guy o O kareky Okay.
Speaker 5: He can flat out go get no. No, he's playing
Speaker 5: like a Pro Bowl this dude. I watched him send
Speaker 5: somebody to the hospital last week. I watched him get
Speaker 5: two sacks. I watched him run down. He'll smash and running, big,
Speaker 5: smashing wide receiver, chasing players, down force and fumbles.
Speaker 2: This guy is a hurricane.
Speaker 4: I watched that game too, and I was sitting there
Speaker 4: thinking about Fred because he mentioned him, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: who is this And they were.
Speaker 3: Saying he was elsewhere.
Speaker 4: He was the cult, so I'm like, and they were saying,
Speaker 4: he's a high number tackle guy for the Coat, So
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow. He said it was a great, great
Speaker 4: pickup by the Giants. But man, he made his presence
Speaker 4: known that night. I mean he was everywhere, gat every.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought Okarek up because I think
Speaker 1: he's a guy that kind of encapsulates the defense in
Speaker 1: a nice way. And what I mean by that is like,
Speaker 1: he is a guy that is like high risk, high reward,
Speaker 1: and he is a guy that is big, he's fast,
Speaker 1: he's physical, all those things. But is he always in
Speaker 1: the right spot? Is he always doing what he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. I don't know, but he shows him and
Speaker 1: makes plays, and I think that's what this defense is.
Speaker 1: It's like we are gonna boom a B. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: reving the engine. We're going to get it and if
Speaker 1: we hit it, great, If we don't, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big play, and I think that's kind of what
Speaker 1: what that defense is. I'm glad you brought up Lawrence
Speaker 1: as well. Like that guy is an absolute bear.
Speaker 2: Got you got to double him. Bear, you got double him.
Speaker 1: At the point he is, like I watched, I would
Speaker 1: just watch all their pressures before the we started shooting.
Speaker 1: He is probably a probably counts for fifty percent of
Speaker 1: their pressures. Like, I'm not kidding, is this.
Speaker 2: Game it has to get I'm saying, is it a
Speaker 2: Nick gate Gay?
Speaker 4: He know these guys, he know what they do, he
Speaker 4: knows everything about him. Nick Gates Lawrence. Is that the
Speaker 4: matchup that changes this game?
Speaker 1: Because I was watching the Dallas game and he is
Speaker 1: literally forklifting that center, Yeah, into the quarterbacks lat It's
Speaker 1: a quick game, like up off your feet into the backfield.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a that's a pressure that's affecting the throw.
Speaker 1: And that happens all two days a time. They also
Speaker 1: got Williams, the other guy number ninety nine the defensive
Speaker 1: end there, They've they've got some talented pieces, But to me,
Speaker 1: Lawrence is one of the best defensive players in the division. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got to account for him in some way.
Speaker 1: And then Okaariki's obviously they got at the second level.
Speaker 1: They have some guys in the back end that are talented,
Speaker 1: but they're to me, they're leveraged so much like they're
Speaker 1: in these crazy man of man situations all out more.
Speaker 1: I know that they can't like show what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: And just to kind of as a note against the bells,
Speaker 1: didn't pressure as much.
Speaker 4: And then they set the zone a couple of times
Speaker 4: running quarter Josh Allen at the quarterback position forces you
Speaker 4: out of man, and man forces you out of two.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: We want all eleven looking at the quarterback. That's why
Speaker 5: you gotta play off. So how how you see?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you had to just yes, what you
Speaker 4: think his approach would be with saying.
Speaker 5: Sama pocket pass, he getting out to him. They're gonna
Speaker 5: play man and.
Speaker 2: Man and hic go.
Speaker 4: The thing is, do we try to push the ball
Speaker 4: down in the field then, because that's what you need
Speaker 4: to do to back them mouth. Get into these guys quick,
Speaker 4: get them quick, slip screens, slants. You know some of
Speaker 4: the things I saw last week in the zone when
Speaker 4: we played Atlanta. But I was watching just how your
Speaker 4: boy digs got off early and I was watching them.
Speaker 3: He getting in the zones. They was tearing them.
Speaker 4: I mean, Diggs was just getting open every now and
Speaker 4: then in that zone, running slants and stuff. And that's
Speaker 4: the first thing he came to mind. I'm like, that's
Speaker 4: a different quarterback. He's a he's a threat differently when
Speaker 4: it comes to you know what I mean. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: how would you approach a guy like us, you know,
Speaker 4: like Sam in our office? And the first thing I
Speaker 4: thought about, I say, they're gonna be pressed. They're gonna
Speaker 4: press these guys that you got a guy in Banks
Speaker 4: who they who they're very confident in ye.
Speaker 3: I mean, he played Digs like no other. I mean
Speaker 3: he's a rookie.
Speaker 2: I'm literally bro.
Speaker 3: He was in his face.
Speaker 2: He was playing.
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, dig still had a game,
Speaker 4: but Diggs was catching everything against everybody else. It was
Speaker 4: hard against Banks, you know what I mean. And they
Speaker 4: had got another guy, Dorry Jackson.
Speaker 3: He showed up play some football.
Speaker 1: He flashed a couple time.
Speaker 4: He's healthy flop float or something like that. He flashed
Speaker 4: a couple of times. He played the slot corner. So
Speaker 4: they have guys that's that's okay. In the secondary, but
Speaker 4: I feel like we have enough receivers that can go
Speaker 4: to you know, I receive was told you know what
Speaker 4: in them last year too, so they remember us too
Speaker 4: well in that you know, in that group. I just
Speaker 4: want to I just want to know, and I was
Speaker 4: I was mainly wanted to come in and act. You
Speaker 4: do you see them changing that scheme up against us.
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have to They're gonna press us.
Speaker 3: They got you.
Speaker 4: They're gonna make only from the pockets only, and they
Speaker 4: gonna go plus one a plush two to the blitz.
Speaker 2: And this is why the screen game come in.
Speaker 5: They quick screen with the wire receiver, with running back screens,
Speaker 5: anything to get them going sideways.
Speaker 4: That they were showing little stunts here and there when
Speaker 4: they was bringing your boy mcfatten, but then they were
Speaker 4: dropping the end and yeah, so it look like he
Speaker 4: was bringing five or six, but it's still only bringing
Speaker 4: four and just dropping.
Speaker 2: Throw it hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And this team or whatever it's worth, it's struggled
Speaker 1: with simulated pressure Sam specifically, right, And I think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big kind of mental lift for
Speaker 1: Sam Howe because it's like, are you getting actual pressure?
Speaker 1: Am I hot? Does the ball need to be out.
Speaker 1: Am I accelerating my process unnecessarily. That's what this wing
Speaker 1: Martin Dell defense does because it's it's very you think
Speaker 1: it's varied, and like when you watch the San Francisco game,
Speaker 1: Sorry Tannel, real quick is they won that game because
Speaker 1: rock Perty is able to identify what's happening and get
Speaker 1: the ball ball out correct and it's not even like
Speaker 1: it's like not even like short stuff. It's like there
Speaker 1: was a touchdown that they threw where it's like a
Speaker 1: deep corner and he just loses ground delivers the ball
Speaker 1: and then that's how you get him out of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And you can hit it, but you gotta be brave
Speaker 1: and patient.
Speaker 4: And so my question is the reason why I trust
Speaker 4: me I'm watching Feminine. I'm asking the same question offensively
Speaker 4: as a coordinator, as a coach, what do you do
Speaker 4: to make him to allow him to think less? Because
Speaker 4: you see it already, you know that that's how he's
Speaker 4: gonna come. He's gonna he's gonna want your you're a
Speaker 4: young quarterback to think and he already sees when he's thinking,
Speaker 4: when he giving up sacks.
Speaker 3: You know every time he don't.
Speaker 4: See that first read, second read, he go to patting
Speaker 4: that ball, he's not he's hesitant to take off and run.
Speaker 4: So how do we make him think less? Put him on,
Speaker 4: put him on the run, move the pocket, things like that,
Speaker 4: you boot you quarterback rago. These plays are set to
Speaker 4: get the ball out. When you you gotta get the ball,
Speaker 4: I think I or you have guys in that lane.
Speaker 4: And when get it to and we established the run,
Speaker 4: then it opens up play action.
Speaker 2: Play action.
Speaker 5: The ball has to get out of your hand after
Speaker 5: the fake, after their foot hits that their backfoot hit
Speaker 5: the ground, you gotta let the ball go. So how
Speaker 5: about we men of fitt, this is when you let
Speaker 5: the ball out instead of letting him figure it out
Speaker 5: from the pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean for me, if I was like thinking
Speaker 1: the tools that we've used or Kyle's given us or
Speaker 1: Sean we were here Jay, to a certain extent, it's
Speaker 1: like use Kayden's quite a bit because like if I
Speaker 1: can identify where guys are dropping out, who's coming in
Speaker 1: using motion, Like identifying man coverage versus his own coverage
Speaker 1: is a pretty big tell for when they're bringing pressure
Speaker 1: and they're not. Like those are things I know people
Speaker 1: do yeah, yeah, but I would say cadence would be
Speaker 1: one that I would like to see more of, Right,
Speaker 1: can you use more cadence to get them to tip rotation,
Speaker 1: to get them to tip who's coming, who's dropping out,
Speaker 1: identify the mic correctly. That's stuff that I think like
Speaker 1: when we played with Kirker, when I played with the Shawn,
Speaker 1: or when I play with Matt Ryan, They're constantly doing
Speaker 1: those little things to find the correct solution. So I
Speaker 1: think that obviously offensively to handle the blitz. Defensively got
Speaker 1: to handle just can you get home?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to yourself, all right. But
Speaker 1: as you always say, Tanna, this could be a banana
Speaker 1: in the tail pipe game. Could be a bana the
Speaker 1: tail pipe game.
Speaker 4: I like to dedicate this this segment to my dad.
Speaker 4: He always told me, don't fall for the banana. Mouse
Speaker 4: Mos said, Yo, you know what, and I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, between the last.
Speaker 2: You got to watch this.
Speaker 3: Cutting me out already.
Speaker 1: All right. So they do have some playmakers. We've talked
Speaker 1: about some of them already. Let's start on the oppotion,
Speaker 1: the side of the ball they got in terms of
Speaker 1: banana tailpipe. Yeah, Darren Waller very talented. He's not playing
Speaker 1: as well. But I think it's hard. You said this
Speaker 1: standard like not quite.
Speaker 4: Don't look comfortable. It looks like a guy. And this
Speaker 4: is one of the things I've always told folks. People
Speaker 4: be coot to say the grass is greener, go elsewhere.
Speaker 4: Always was hesitant because you can be putting up numbers, comfortable,
Speaker 4: got the right offense around you, right coaching style, right quarterback.
Speaker 4: Then you go elsewhere for the money, and it's just
Speaker 4: not hitting. You're not hitting on all cylinders. You're still
Speaker 4: trying to get, you know, used to what you see.
Speaker 4: And that's what I see from theren on. I'm watching
Speaker 4: them week after week, like when is he gonna be
Speaker 4: the guy?
Speaker 3: But he is the guy.
Speaker 4: He came in as the guy, and certain guys play
Speaker 4: better when than not the guy. Yeah, when I'm the
Speaker 4: second or third guy, he's number one. Right now, they
Speaker 4: try to run the offense through the tight end and
Speaker 4: then to get to everybody else, and they can't do it.
Speaker 3: It's not ready for the challenge.
Speaker 5: And I know exactly what you're talking about. I am
Speaker 5: a test subject to that. I left here and went
Speaker 5: to Minnesota and just did not like it. I wasn't
Speaker 5: comfortable they wanted me to play cover two. I'm a
Speaker 5: man corner.
Speaker 4: Just so many things, so the grass ain't always green
Speaker 4: on absolutely so.
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that's very very talented. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we show we've shown over the course of
Speaker 1: this season so far that like we match up, We've
Speaker 1: been matching up okay with tight ends, you know, specifically
Speaker 1: coll Pits. Even though he had a good game, like
Speaker 1: wasn't super productive. I think we've got pieces that can
Speaker 1: match up with him. But yeah, he's a guy that's
Speaker 1: very talented. You mentioned Wandel Robinson, like that dude is.
Speaker 2: He's in a different He's a handful.
Speaker 1: In a different offense. You're talking about him maybe being like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the most effective offensive weapons.
Speaker 3: Like he's mind me and right now the kid out
Speaker 3: that that that you got.
Speaker 4: In Detroit, Yeah, has that same kind had that same
Speaker 4: like you watch him who stops and Noll crosses and
Speaker 4: getting getting right now, right now. Every time he got
Speaker 4: the ball, C two split him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: he was getting that ball and he didn't do no
Speaker 4: moves straight up field four five, six, seven yards like
Speaker 4: and to be a small guy like he.
Speaker 2: Look like Steve Smith.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: He's seventy smaller than me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And you ain't tall, but you ain't cockier than most men.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Most guys play my position. I'm
Speaker 4: way more stout than those guys. And he's not as
Speaker 4: big as me, you know what i mean. He remind
Speaker 4: me of a build for the kid who was there
Speaker 4: did the saucer. Oh, Victor Cruise, Victor Cruish, but a
Speaker 4: little shorter. So he's you know, he looks a little
Speaker 4: you know, he looks a little more compact because he's shorter. Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: no he's not. He's not up there with our weight.
Speaker 4: He probably in a one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 1: Some pounds pound.
Speaker 3: See, I'm we was one eighty one nineties, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Trust me.
Speaker 1: So, but they do have weapons. Slaton's another guy you
Speaker 1: mentioned Hyatt. They do have explosive weapons. But again I
Speaker 1: go back to this idea that.
Speaker 4: You can't get it to him because of the office
Speaker 4: quiet I mean too, you know, they still trying to
Speaker 4: find a way to get hired active, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, get them involved, and they bring them in
Speaker 4: and try to hit the same week.
Speaker 3: This is the week.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Saying, not to say that, I'm saying that I would
Speaker 3: want to see that, But that's how.
Speaker 4: They're thinking, Like this is the time, you know, when
Speaker 4: you put stuff on film, all we can do is
Speaker 4: see if you're gonna correct yourself.
Speaker 3: And we've put it on tape.
Speaker 4: We've showed time and time again that we're gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: get a guy too behind us. So we have to
Speaker 4: be mindful that these guys are watching what we put
Speaker 4: on tape and they gonna come at those, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's those are the guys offensive he
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley is another guy, very productive in the Bills game,
Speaker 1: but before that long run in the fourth quarter if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, averaging one point two yards of rush.
Speaker 1: So he's a talented player behind a bat offense.
Speaker 2: It ain't him, No, it's five guys in front.
Speaker 1: Of I don't think anyone's saying it's him.
Speaker 4: That Sa Kwan basically was stopped in the backfield and
Speaker 4: got four or five it. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: don't let him feel constable enough that he can have one.
Speaker 1: But he always has. He always has big games against US.
Speaker 1: I think his last two hundred yard games were against
Speaker 1: the Commanders.
Speaker 4: Shut him down in that first game. The game he's
Speaker 4: heads up and down down game.
Speaker 1: Yes, so what is it? It says first time in
Speaker 1: Giants lost the game, Barkley had twenty two or more
Speaker 1: carries despite missing half the six game did okay? Barkley's
Speaker 1: two biggest rushing games in his career have both come
Speaker 1: versus Washington career high one hundred and eighty nine yards
Speaker 1: Week fifteen, twenty nineteen, and back week twenty thirteen or
Speaker 1: Week thirteen of twenty eighteen, he rushed around to seven yeards.
Speaker 1: So guys, that's what I meant. He has. His two
Speaker 1: biggest productions came against US. But again, with a bad
Speaker 1: offensive line, you can't do anything.
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry. That's why I didn't play offense. It
Speaker 5: depends on too many people to do food to come right.
Speaker 1: It's the ultimate team space.
Speaker 4: I like to control my own destiny, and on offense,
Speaker 4: I could be the best wide receiver in the NFL,
Speaker 4: but if my offensive lining blocking from my quarterback, I
Speaker 4: have no chance to succeed.
Speaker 1: So so what I'd say then? Okay, So that's that's
Speaker 1: there them on the U on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, very very talented, you know, maybe not a
Speaker 1: true number one receiver, but got some pieces pieces. And
Speaker 1: you know, that's an interesting kind of thought experiment, is
Speaker 1: when you look at early last year they found creative
Speaker 1: ways to get saquon the ball in space like screens, bubbles,
Speaker 1: you know, as the wildcat guy, and you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they can do something like that to kind of spark
Speaker 1: the offense, open it up a little bit, create some
Speaker 1: space for dayl Aaron Waller. But they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be really creative to get that done, I guess. Is
Speaker 1: the thing I'd say is like beware of the bana
Speaker 1: and the tailpipe. Have talented people. They have shown they
Speaker 1: can do it with not a great offensive line, but
Speaker 1: again not very likely defensively. Kevon Thibodeau. We mentioned Bobby Okareiki,
Speaker 1: we mentioned der Lawrence. Very talented people, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think you got to kind of just be aware
Speaker 1: of what they're breaking.
Speaker 2: Put a banana in the tailpipe, why not a pumpkin?
Speaker 2: Like pumpkins are useless.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't fit in the tailpipe. I don't think
Speaker 1: they cut it up and put it in there this guy.
Speaker 2: I love bananas. I don't think we should ruin bananas
Speaker 2: by putting in the pipe.
Speaker 1: So do you are you worried about this defense at all? Friend?
Speaker 1: I am, but not because of the personnel. You're worried
Speaker 1: about the coordinator.
Speaker 5: I'm worried about coordinator meets personnel, Like this is what
Speaker 5: I'm worried about. Like, if they gonna stay in this
Speaker 5: game with us, it's gonna be because of the defense,
Speaker 5: not because of the office.
Speaker 4: They going to hit to the office, protect the ball.
Speaker 4: If we're gonna try to get y'all a short feel,
Speaker 4: make the play when we present it. I'm afraid of
Speaker 4: this defense. I think this defense is a lot better
Speaker 4: than they.
Speaker 2: Are on paper.
Speaker 5: I think they play at a high level, especially when
Speaker 5: they play against us. But I can't put any I
Speaker 5: can't judge the past because Sam High would not quarter.
Speaker 4: They say Sam was our quarterback and Eb wasn't our
Speaker 4: quarter OC.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I'm a little scared of this of what the Giants
Speaker 4: defense may present us. Just from seeing them over the years,
Speaker 4: I think coming into this game, they do have us
Speaker 4: nice what six weeks of film to watch and say, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is what they've been doing. But I do also
Speaker 4: believe also the playbooks so big, we still haven't tapped
Speaker 4: into where we can go and getting so much you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, so much more stuff that he's
Speaker 4: probably installing this week because it's a different opponent, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it's a guy we're gonna see twice too.
Speaker 4: So that's the one thing that gives me a breath
Speaker 4: of fresh air to say, hey, at least we have
Speaker 4: something going for us when it comes to new OC,
Speaker 4: new quarterback and Sam one of those guys like you
Speaker 4: mess around and try to blitz or not. And he
Speaker 4: see Terry out there one on one with Press Cottage,
Speaker 4: he gonna tie you.
Speaker 5: He gonna tell maybe it's a Logan game because if
Speaker 5: you don't blitz, is uli your linebacker's blitzing.
Speaker 2: So now the tight end thing's.
Speaker 5: Matched up matchups with safeties, and we know Logan is huge,
Speaker 5: his catch ratings is huge. So I'm thinking the only
Speaker 5: way to stop them from blitzing is to go to
Speaker 5: the tight end early enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like they're the twenty eight, they're
Speaker 1: like not a good defense. They're like twenty seventh in
Speaker 1: total defense. Right, they're thirty first against the rush, they're
Speaker 1: sixteenth against the pass. To give you some context on
Speaker 1: those numbers as fans, Right, they're thirty first in the
Speaker 1: league versus rushing because they've been playing from behind the quibbit, right,
Speaker 1: so like teams are gonna run the ball more. Also,
Speaker 1: I think they've played some teams that are really dynamic offenses. Right,
Speaker 1: they played buff played Buffalo Miami, They've played the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, right, maybe one of the best teams in football.
Speaker 1: So I do think this defense is probably better than
Speaker 1: what the numbers are on paper because they've got they've
Speaker 1: had better competition. But again, it's to me, this is
Speaker 1: the side of the football that is more scary, to
Speaker 1: your point, Fred, Like, it's because they've got some dynamic
Speaker 1: playmakers and they also it's there's a it's risk reward
Speaker 1: and he's basically gambling every time he blitzes. And we've
Speaker 1: seen that Sam in certain situations has a hard time
Speaker 1: with the stuff that this defense right, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: So that being said, all this conversation going on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting a little tired.
Speaker 2: No I'm not.
Speaker 1: You're good, all right? Is this chilli in here, but
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. This is my time.
Speaker 2: You give me a piece of pumpkin.
Speaker 1: You don't like pumpkin? What are you talking about? All right?
Speaker 1: So where are the commander's advantages in this game? Okay?
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do for this is we're gonna
Speaker 1: say we're going to New York. We're excited. New York lights,
Speaker 1: Broadway lights. Yeah, what name of what player would you
Speaker 1: like to see up there in those lights? Is the
Speaker 1: guy that takes over the game or has the biggest
Speaker 1: advantage in this game? I say, okay, why.
Speaker 4: Just he's been disrupted all year long. Don't matter who
Speaker 4: you have. And when you're facing against a team, when
Speaker 4: two of your guards are giving up five sacks apiece
Speaker 4: and they're tied for first and second in the league,
Speaker 4: this is a game where you might see the Ron
Speaker 4: Pain or Johnathan Allen our interior really have a chance
Speaker 4: to really, you know, make some noise. You know this
Speaker 4: this is one of those games when you have a
Speaker 4: guy like Daniel Dredis, Daniel Jones or Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 3: I want to see them.
Speaker 4: I want to see that pocket collapse, but I want
Speaker 4: to see the inside. I want to see these guys
Speaker 4: make it hard for the quarterback to step up because
Speaker 4: now if he's trying to get outside, you got those
Speaker 4: guys who can run, those guys with the long ums
Speaker 4: that can you know, grab him and hold him down.
Speaker 4: So dron pain. This is one of those games that
Speaker 4: I want to see him in the lights.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he'll be up against Marcus McKeith, who's a
Speaker 1: second year player out in Carolina. He was undrafted, big guy,
Speaker 1: physical guy, but again, like just the experienced the explosiveness
Speaker 1: of pain. He should be getting after that. And he's
Speaker 1: also the backup.
Speaker 4: See Johann John dots yohar, I see Dots. We all
Speaker 4: wait on the game from him, waiting on debt game.
Speaker 4: I think this is debt game for him.
Speaker 2: I think back home, back home.
Speaker 4: So I just think it's deck game for him, and
Speaker 4: not just catching balls.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about yeck yards. I'm talking about targets.
Speaker 4: I think coach bing is gonna say, you know what,
Speaker 4: let me let me target him man times.
Speaker 2: I gotta get his comforty is going. I got to
Speaker 2: get him going.
Speaker 5: And if they don't blitz a lot, the here's gonna
Speaker 5: be a lot of one on ones out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think with his right running skills, he ain't the
Speaker 4: one you want to see in one on one.
Speaker 2: I think he wins it battle.
Speaker 1: Yep. It looks like he's been, you know, watching filming
Speaker 1: a little bit of a funk. Hopefully this is an
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to get out of that. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the right running. He's had productive games up there in
Speaker 1: the past last year. I think, yeah, he did to
Speaker 1: spend more. I think it's his game. Yeah. I hope so, man,
Speaker 1: because it'd be great if he could kind of come
Speaker 1: to life or imagine what that would do for this
Speaker 1: offense would be great. And for me, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't get their name in the lights very often,
Speaker 1: and that's Snick Gates. And it's only because of the
Speaker 1: matchup with Dextra Lawrence, like he is the most strophic.
Speaker 1: But you you didn't take it though.
Speaker 2: I see Gates versus Lawrench.
Speaker 1: But you could have said that now.
Speaker 2: Versus Loan.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll pick a different one Freda though, but
Speaker 1: Nick Gay versus Lawrence because I think he's the most
Speaker 1: disruptive weapon on the defense right and and you got
Speaker 1: to manage that. And so Nick Gates is gonna line up,
Speaker 1: head up with him a lot. He's obviously gonna get
Speaker 1: help from Sam, Cosmy, Sadik, Charles. They're all gonna have
Speaker 1: to work together to get that done. But I think
Speaker 1: if you can keep him quiet, that defense becomes a
Speaker 1: little bit more newter. That's better for us. But because
Speaker 1: I sold freds, you're gonna go in a different direction,
Speaker 1: and that's Sam Howe, because it's really Sam Howe versus
Speaker 1: Wink Martindale. And if Sam has a good game and
Speaker 1: we're getting his name up in the marquee, it's because
Speaker 1: he's identified pressure as well. He's gotten the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hands quickly. He's not taking a lot of sacks.
Speaker 1: And again that starts in the week that starts on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: with the first practice. That starts with you be getting
Speaker 1: him ready. All those things definitely kind of compile to
Speaker 1: make that done. So it's a team effort for sure.
Speaker 1: But if his name's up there, we're probably winning this
Speaker 1: football game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right about that?
Speaker 1: I agree with all Right, So now it's time for
Speaker 1: everyone's favorite part of the show.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: If you have to guess, what do you think it is?
Speaker 2: Fred Smooth Live.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole show, all right, I mean
Speaker 1: talk about a guy whos just full of himself.
Speaker 2: Somebody gotta be it's.
Speaker 1: Game predictions, game predictions.
Speaker 2: So and you pick gets the team like three times
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 1: I just I think only once, actually twice.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be real.
Speaker 1: So Danna so game score and we're doing this on Wednesday, guys,
Speaker 1: so sometimes we're a little bit off in terms of field.
Speaker 1: Got a better fiel, Yeah, a little a little over eager, right,
Speaker 1: So Tanna what you got.
Speaker 4: I just feel like somewhere around in the twenty four seventeen,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stamp who's the one out of that
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Do it last?
Speaker 1: I know you didn't and it's a good luck.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna leave it up there like that. I
Speaker 3: mean work, No, Honestly.
Speaker 4: The reason why I say that because, like I said before,
Speaker 4: I'm we are the company man. We could sit here
Speaker 4: and say Command win every week. Is the team that
Speaker 4: we've had problems with one percent. So these guys have
Speaker 4: to show this another week. They have to go out
Speaker 4: there and show me who you are and beat their
Speaker 4: chest a little big and show me that they really
Speaker 4: who they say they are. You know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like we're capable of beating any anybody. I'm
Speaker 4: always ride with us. Yeah, just know that my heart
Speaker 4: is always going to bleed what they bleed. But I
Speaker 4: ain't from Missouri, but they got to show me.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up because one of
Speaker 1: the things about this team it's been since I've covered
Speaker 1: the team is they tend to be a little up
Speaker 1: and down depending on the opponent. Can they be up
Speaker 1: for a team that they are better than. Can they
Speaker 1: play better than the correct as opposed to kind of
Speaker 1: this up ebb and flow that's stepping up and down.
Speaker 1: Can they approach this week with the same focus they
Speaker 1: had last week? And I think if they can, they
Speaker 1: should win this game. There are more talented roster top
Speaker 1: to bottom, right are the Giants and NFL football team?
Speaker 1: Is this going to be a tough game? Do we
Speaker 1: have tough matchups with them? One percent? But top to
Speaker 1: bottom we're better. We should win. Yeah, if we're prepped
Speaker 1: and ready to go up properly. Yeah. So what's your
Speaker 1: What my score is? I like your score a lot, Tanner,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to steal your score, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say still all the time. I'm gonna say twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty three to fourteen, I think is what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I think this defense is gonna be
Speaker 1: at all. It's different. Price is right, A little bit right, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little under. I like to score. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to take it exactly. So I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a to score game.
Speaker 5: Feeling the energy in the building this week, it don't
Speaker 5: feel like the players are patting themself on the back
Speaker 5: from the Atlanta win.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that like that. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: And it's like they got their focus here of this
Speaker 4: the team that stopped us from going to the playoffs
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 2: This is the team we had to beat twice.
Speaker 1: You should be given the pregame speech. Man, I'm getting
Speaker 1: excited this listening.
Speaker 5: We have to understand we need to make a we
Speaker 5: need to send a message with this game.
Speaker 2: Like so, I'm going to go thirty to fifteen. Now.
Speaker 4: To get that fifteen, we probably got to give up
Speaker 4: a safety. I'm fired, probably gonna beat triple though getting
Speaker 4: the safe. But what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Is thirty to fifteen, decisive win.
Speaker 2: Lead from the door.
Speaker 5: They're behind most of the game playing ketchup with a
Speaker 5: quarterback Tyrod Taylor Daniel Jones. The secondary shows up again
Speaker 5: takes the battle away three times.
Speaker 1: If this, if the Commanders get out to a little
Speaker 1: bit of a lead, the Giants are gonna have a really.
Speaker 2: Hard time kitchen. Yeah, but they're not built to catch up.
Speaker 1: But if the game flow stays even, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like Atlanta. If the game flows even, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be at the entire time a spark.
Speaker 3: Somebody got to make a play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, that was a really nice really I liked.
Speaker 1: I was fired up about already.
Speaker 2: I mean, fifteen, that's well man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously we're hoping for a win. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's the New York Giants, so you never know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yep, But I know why the Giants and name the Giants? No,
Speaker 2: you go, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I thought it was just kinda people like, kind of
Speaker 1: a cool his.
Speaker 2: Name for the giant buildings, the skyscrapers.
Speaker 1: Tanna leave me out, Jason? You got your phone with him?
Speaker 1: Ya got? There are certain things that I cannot tolerate,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's complete. Who were.
Speaker 3: Ready to New York Giants get their name from here
Speaker 3: we go.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think the mobile working.
Speaker 1: Syriah was like, no, thank you, hold on, gave it
Speaker 1: to me, just.
Speaker 3: Put it up.
Speaker 5: I have no solid gave y'all gotta understand, man, it's
Speaker 5: for the Giant Buildings, all right?
Speaker 1: What we got ten?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Nobody can find it.
Speaker 4: The team was named after the National League Baseball Giants,
Speaker 4: who were a long time favorite of the New York
Speaker 4: At the time, baseball was the keen professional sports, so
Speaker 4: owner Tim Marrow wanted the same name recognition and hopes
Speaker 4: that fans.
Speaker 3: Would support their clubs.
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Speaker 2: Everything?
Speaker 1: Everything? Yeah, last week was bubbles. Whatever it is this
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