WEBVTT - Daron Payne is a DISRUPTER, Analyzing the NY Giants Playbook, Week 7 Preview | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we are

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<v Speaker 1>previewing the Giants. Are they really as bad as their

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<v Speaker 1>one in five records? I don't think so. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna preview the offense and defense. Tanna never

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<v Speaker 1>fall for the banana and the tailpipe, right, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They got some talented people on this team. We gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be careful. And you can't eat a tomato without teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't, dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>And Fred, this is maybe my favorite moment of this show.

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<v Speaker 1>You get caught in a giant line. Check it out

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<v Speaker 1>in the other.

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<v Speaker 3>And never believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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<v Speaker 1>with Fred Smoot, who's wearing the same shirt from last episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough, thank you, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Santana Moss always impeccably dressed.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, you live like Owen Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Thank you. Was like a handsome guy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. I mean he's got crooked nose, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's crooked nose. Guys gotta stick to Yeah, I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't all be devilishly hands I'm like, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you should be for Halloween. Wow, he's just you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been watching love Yeah, all right, so guys Giants this week? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, man, did you just start off with a

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<v Speaker 1>start to show?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't help itself.

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<v Speaker 4>So many but so many years I've here in this

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<v Speaker 4>side of me. Man, it just comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this show.

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<v Speaker 5>And we hate the Giants. Man, we just can't beat them.

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<v Speaker 5>It's something about the Giants. I couldn't beat him with

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<v Speaker 5>straight hand and OC and we can't beat them now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's sickening into my stomach when the team has

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<v Speaker 5>your number.

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<v Speaker 3>I show this with my brother.

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<v Speaker 4>My brother played with the Giants, he played on the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl team, and I told him, I say, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>The year we finally beat you out twice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it's just crazy. How crazy is that? Like the

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<v Speaker 3>Giants has always been a tough team.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we talked more about the Cowboys when we get ready,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, match up against them, you might you know,

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<v Speaker 4>talk a little bit about the Eagles. The Eagles always

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<v Speaker 4>tough to but the Giants that seemed like those guys

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<v Speaker 4>just to be like, come on over here, we want

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<v Speaker 4>washing it saying that guy in the neighborhood that you say,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't going on that block.

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<v Speaker 3>Always that dude always funking.

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<v Speaker 1>Me on it. It's weird because everybody else seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to mess them up, but they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got your.

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<v Speaker 2>They destroy us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm matter what happens the game we have every now

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<v Speaker 3>and then it just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We all. I guess matchups make fights. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this real quick, high level thoughts, right Why because

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<v Speaker 1>they were pretty good last year, went to the playoffs, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>why are they so bad this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Office Blade?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, they can't block your grandmother. Your grandmama could spin

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<v Speaker 5>move off of the him and swim them to Neil.

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<v Speaker 5>Like they all talk about us about not putting a

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<v Speaker 5>draft capitol into the officive line. They put great draft

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<v Speaker 5>capital into the offensive line, only to find.

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<v Speaker 2>Out they stink.

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<v Speaker 5>Not only do they stink, they can't protect Jones even

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<v Speaker 5>for three seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not making big holes for sake.

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<v Speaker 4>Kawon Barkley they see because shockingly is better than people.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but think you can't there's no production from that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't blocking them by I saw a stat that day,

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<v Speaker 4>was watching the game, and they had they was showing

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<v Speaker 4>the office of starting guys and like you know behind,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not behind, but right up under every starting guy.

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<v Speaker 4>They showed like okay, five touchdowns this and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty something starts. This is what they said for their

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<v Speaker 4>officer line.

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<v Speaker 3>It tripped me. I had to I always had to

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<v Speaker 3>take a picture of it, write it down.

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<v Speaker 4>It said, it went name by name, Justin Pugh first

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<v Speaker 4>game since twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it said Joshua.

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<v Speaker 4>E Zu from North Carolina tied for second with five

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<v Speaker 4>sacks giving up this year, being uh Retison one sat

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<v Speaker 4>giving up this year. And then the other guy, Mark Glawinsky,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna mess somebody time, tied for second with five

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<v Speaker 4>sacks giving up. And then you had your guy Nevin

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<v Speaker 4>he had twenty six pressures. I think he's tied for first.

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<v Speaker 4>A second, like, I was looking at that, like, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>what type of what tad stat line is that for

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<v Speaker 4>your start officer line? So you asked the question about

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<v Speaker 4>you know, what is their problem is?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the officer line.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's a I mean it's glarings sitting there

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<v Speaker 4>right in front of your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think also like last year, people look

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<v Speaker 1>at them and they say, oh, you know they were

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<v Speaker 1>ten win team, nine win teams something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They won those game by one.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying. They were in a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of one score games, and analytically like that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest statistics to regress the Minnesota Vikings because

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<v Speaker 1>they said the.

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<v Speaker 5>Two teams that had their state line. I think this

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<v Speaker 5>year because them games.

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<v Speaker 3>We know they were lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I can say this also, you got to

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<v Speaker 4>think last year we saw the uh, the re emergence

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<v Speaker 4>of Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, what happened a lot of these games that they've.

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<v Speaker 4>Been losing early he has been running in rushing and

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<v Speaker 4>then last the couple nights ago when he came back

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<v Speaker 4>into the lineup, you saw the offense move a little

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<v Speaker 4>better again. Because I think it's all about Sakaron Barkley.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why say Kauanasad are trying to get his

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<v Speaker 4>money because he knew you went and gave you would

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<v Speaker 4>and gave his quarterback the money. But sat Quanders were

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who's really kind of running. He's the leader

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<v Speaker 4>of that ship. He makes that boat go. So I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you know what company you got, do not

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<v Speaker 4>pay a guy by the name of Daniel Jones. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm telling at the other day. That set Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>is right.

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<v Speaker 2>That offense ticks through sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, time out, let's talk about this. Let's le's let's

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<v Speaker 1>pin down on this for a second. So last year,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of their offensive production, the offense went through

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>It did, but it was bit because Daniel Jones miraculously

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<v Speaker 4>found ways to and not lose a game. Like you

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<v Speaker 4>saw a big jump from Daniel Jones from years prior,

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<v Speaker 4>because he was doing one thing better than everything. He

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<v Speaker 4>he was basically making the right decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna throw the ball into the other team's hand,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm an.

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<v Speaker 4>Run athletic ability that that year, last year, more than

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<v Speaker 4>any year, he shows you that. Man, guess what, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a better runner than these people give me, So let

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<v Speaker 4>me go out here and do this. He extended drives

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<v Speaker 4>with his legs and made sure he didn't get the

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<v Speaker 4>ball away.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why they want.

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<v Speaker 4>They was in games and had those chances to win

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<v Speaker 4>those one and two or three point games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're They're pretty bad in every offensive Statistico category

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<v Speaker 1>except for explosive runs. Their eighteenth in the NFL, which

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<v Speaker 1>isn't great, but over half of those runs are Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Jones scrambles or zone reads. So I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>even though Sa Kwan and some of these other guys

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<v Speaker 1>get the headline like it to your point ten, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a really good nuanced take there. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>when he's making good decisions, he is the offense because

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<v Speaker 1>physically he's got the arm, he got the athleticism to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of elevate that group. But man, I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>like harp on and beat a dead horse, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>are games where you're watching the film and they cannot

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. They cannot do anything offensively because anytime they

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<v Speaker 1>drop back to pass, anytime they're in a third and

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<v Speaker 1>anything like third and seven.

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<v Speaker 4>He reminded me of back when I was with the

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<v Speaker 4>Jets and Patrick Ramsey was a start at here with

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<v Speaker 4>the It could be when I say it's a difference

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<v Speaker 4>between Sam Howell getting sacked and Patrick Ramsey getting sacked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Patrick Ramsey used to.

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<v Speaker 4>Drop back and Cooch Ferris in that film comes. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean he was like by and he was taking those

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<v Speaker 4>hits like those hits like, man, you don't hit my

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<v Speaker 4>son like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a difference, And I think that's what I saw

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<v Speaker 4>with you know, Daniel Jones. He was getting he was

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<v Speaker 4>taking so many of those hits those previous years to

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<v Speaker 4>where he was shell shocked a lot, you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of those games where he played and he was

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<v Speaker 4>getting sacked. He was almost getting self sacked because he

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<v Speaker 4>was shell shocked. It was sales shocked from years before.

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<v Speaker 4>So I look at I look at Patrick Ramsey going

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<v Speaker 4>through that, and I seen I saw that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that in Daniel Jones, and then last year

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<v Speaker 4>it was a total different Daniel Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to double click on that for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a difference between Sam Howse sacks in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that Sam how like there's a pocket, Yeah, pockets

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<v Speaker 1>like a pocket and Sam you know, I'd say, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say he getting.

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<v Speaker 4>Tackled more than getting it, getting blown up his progressions and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he's and like there are times where it's true

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<v Speaker 1>sacks as quick wins, but there's oftentimes where he's running

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<v Speaker 1>in the pressure, he's trying to extend, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>young quarterbacks issue. When you watch the Giants to Tannis Point,

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<v Speaker 1>they're one of those five guys is giving up a

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<v Speaker 1>quick win, blowing like a quick win, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's on Daniel Jones for not being productive. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, what is this man supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 1>And like it's if the game, if the game flow

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<v Speaker 1>gets out of whack at all, they have to pass

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<v Speaker 1>at all, It's like, well just throw it out the window.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Like it's one of those things where I

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<v Speaker 5>can't do my job because other people ain't doing their job.

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<v Speaker 5>So but the quarterback takes the blunt of the blame

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<v Speaker 5>for this. Like Daniel Jones to me, not a great quarterback,

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<v Speaker 5>but he ain't no bad quarterator.

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<v Speaker 1>He can do things with his feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just sorry, and he's not set up.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I had to ask my iself, who would

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<v Speaker 4>I rather face this week? Tyro Daniel Jones, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>fighting with it. I think that I think, And we

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about this before you got here, because you

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<v Speaker 4>know you always late, thank you, so you know, Tyrod

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor to me is a better quarterback and this is

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<v Speaker 4>this for my opinion, I felt like when I watched

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<v Speaker 4>him playing the game of the night. He got the

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<v Speaker 4>ball precisely out of his hand quick enough, he was accurate, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>he ran with the ball when he needed to. But

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<v Speaker 4>he gave them opportunities at the opportunity to be in

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<v Speaker 4>that game. But I also can give a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>credit to just that stabo old team it was facing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that team probably took on a different mantra

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<v Speaker 4>that whole week. Knew everything about that team too, so

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<v Speaker 4>they got a chance to play them differently. But when

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<v Speaker 4>I watched, when I kind of compared the film of

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<v Speaker 4>watching a couple of games with Daniel Jones, everything's jittery

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<v Speaker 4>at times and at times he's accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>At times he's throwing the ball over their heads.

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<v Speaker 4>So I will say I give Tyrod Taylor a better

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<v Speaker 4>might be a better athlete when it comes to just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, total package. But Daniel Jones fixed what they

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<v Speaker 4>do way way better than Tyrod Taylor. And he understands

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<v Speaker 4>what we do good up front. And that's why he

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<v Speaker 4>beats us because he say, let these guys fly feel

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take in the part scene and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>take off get ten yards, and he understands two critical

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<v Speaker 4>downs when I have to get a first down. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna sit here and read. I'm gonna take off

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<v Speaker 4>because I see the lanes, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also seen Darren Waller make some plays which

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't seen this year, one.

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<v Speaker 3>Or two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's let's hold let's hold on up for one second.

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<v Speaker 1>So last question in this segment for the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the top end high value, So are they as bad

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<v Speaker 1>as one in five?

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<v Speaker 2>It don't matter. They're playing us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're playing us. I don't care what they record is.

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<v Speaker 4>We ain't got over this hurdle of this mountain yet.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to beat New York and we have to

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<v Speaker 4>constantly beat New York. But like Tanna, say that we

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<v Speaker 4>beat them twice, they go into the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just crazy, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I would say that they are they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>not playing good football right now. And that's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't circuit on that schedule right games. This is a team, right,

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<v Speaker 4>let's get our step together this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with it all right, So let's talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more detailed about what they like to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>what type of offense do they run? And then what

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<v Speaker 1>type of defense can we inspect? So let's sat it

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side of the football. What type offense

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<v Speaker 1>do they run? And I guess I'll start here because

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<v Speaker 1>like I was watching film earlier, so what I see

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<v Speaker 1>is an offense. It's very similar last year, right, multiple

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<v Speaker 1>tighten they want to live in like this multiple tight

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<v Speaker 1>end set life. They want to move, They want to

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<v Speaker 1>move the pocket right on these boot on these boots

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<v Speaker 1>and keepers, which is what they did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>last year. And it's not gonna be the same way

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<v Speaker 1>that Atlanta did it. They're gonna have an extra blocker

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<v Speaker 1>to block that defensive end. Get them out. You are

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<v Speaker 1>having the field. But when your protection is so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>like there needs to be a solution, Like they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even they have a hard time with play action. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how bad this group is in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>pass protection. So they have to get them out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. Sprints rolls. What I would say a huge

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<v Speaker 1>priority for Jack is keep that son of a gun

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<v Speaker 1>in there, Tyrod or Daniel Jones in front of you, state,

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<v Speaker 1>keep him in, keep him in that tackle box, and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, bro, you gotta beat us from in here,

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<v Speaker 1>because we will, Like John Allen deron paint. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bring pressures, we're gonna look like and because it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be tough. So that's offensively, it's a it's a West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast offense. They want to kind of you know, spread

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<v Speaker 1>your horizontally and then be very selective about when they

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<v Speaker 1>want to take their shots vertically down the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem again, I hate to beat a dead horse,

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<v Speaker 1>but me, they can't get the ball down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>They are thirty thirty second in passing yards in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty first and explosive air yard plays like they have

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<v Speaker 1>a dude, they have a hard time getting that ball

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<v Speaker 1>down the field because I mean, obviously they have explosive guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Slayton, They've got Wallert, They've got explosive weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>and like all of their explosive plays near came in

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona game, you know what I mean, like when

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<v Speaker 1>they had that big comeback. So when you look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>because they cannot pass protect, the offense is like stagnant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's moving or it's within ten yards of line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>and outside of that it's rough. And they want to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. But I don't care if I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>safety and i don't have to worry about anything deep.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stand right there at ten yard and when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming down here, and when I see and get

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<v Speaker 1>that ball, I'm like, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Pro I'm hitting them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that's what I think about the offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think defensively, Fred, Yeah, you can game plan for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the defense is better than then they getting props.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk offense. I'm saying, commanders, defense, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you game plan for that offense?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna actually play these guys. I know y'all don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I'm gonna play a man, and I'm going plus

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<v Speaker 5>two on the rush I'm getting I want I want

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<v Speaker 5>them to play from behind, and the only way I

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<v Speaker 5>can make them play from behind is to get at

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<v Speaker 5>them early. Now, my first hand plan get out them

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<v Speaker 5>second hand playing play with the shape, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to attack them first. I want them always behind the chains.

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<v Speaker 5>You just said it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not good and third and six plus I want

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure they're not.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking third and two in the face. And the only

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<v Speaker 5>way I can do that iss all early and often.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean if I got Dan you Jones in there.

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<v Speaker 4>He's coming coming back from being being being a little hamper.

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<v Speaker 4>I might take that approach, But when I watched Tyrod

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>A much better scrambled scrambler.

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<v Speaker 4>They moved the pocket with him earlier in that game

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<v Speaker 4>against Buffalo to where they had to change up what

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<v Speaker 4>they was doing. They were trying to bring a guy

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<v Speaker 4>here and there, and when he got outside that pocket,

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<v Speaker 4>pink dame slating down the sideline being waller, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean, being what the guy name is the Hyatt?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, uh, little Robinson truth.

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<v Speaker 4>So Tyrod Taylor in there, I'm I'm backing off of

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<v Speaker 4>trying to bring too many people that took at the

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<v Speaker 4>wrong times.

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<v Speaker 3>He was finding the ways to get that ball to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Now where they beat up Dang Jones kind of little

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<v Speaker 4>getting back into the groove of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I might get him back. Share I want.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to bring a guy to him, make him think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, But we also know he

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<v Speaker 4>knows us.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna try to run up out of there.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I'm blitching here. I'm blitting him to not

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<v Speaker 5>give him any lanes. But Cody Barton showed you sending

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<v Speaker 5>me downhill. I'm not good at catching, but I am

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<v Speaker 5>good going.

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<v Speaker 1>Down He that was that was a changing play style

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<v Speaker 1>by Cody, to give him credit, but so to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you can stop the keeper game, the

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<v Speaker 1>boots where he's getting out of the pocket, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can stop that kind of stuff. Their offense, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say is toothless, but there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>So can you keep him in there?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>bring pressure to do that or if you just coach

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive buttons up differently, but.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get you. Was that related to what I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about it, I said Toothless big album.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about the damn I would think I

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<v Speaker 4>was thinking about a tomato, you know, with that tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's that's that's the high level thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the offense. And I get you keep bringing this out

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to bring this home. Tyrod Taylor is

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<v Speaker 1>a better He's a better scrambler in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he scrambles to throw Jones scrambles to.

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<v Speaker 1>Think there's something to that.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe a Jones deer in the head like Tyrod,

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<v Speaker 4>Like nah, I am the head, like I can see everything,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see how he looks in game

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<v Speaker 1>two because I always think backup quarterbacks look really good

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<v Speaker 1>because this team doesn't have any film on him. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>and then but yeah, so I think that's the offense now.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensively a little bit more fun to talk about. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not playing that great either, Yea, Fred, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you see.

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<v Speaker 5>Any wink morning Dale defense? I am afraid of. I

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<v Speaker 5>respect Tribadeou. He loves playing us, him and little I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what kind of relationship they got, but it

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<v Speaker 5>ain't good. Indeed, you got big Lawrence, Lawrence makes plays

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<v Speaker 5>man that linebacking cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot the linebacker names. I can't pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mcfatten forty one.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh the other guy o O kareky Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>He can flat out go get no. No, he's playing

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<v Speaker 5>like a Pro Bowl this dude. I watched him send

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<v Speaker 5>somebody to the hospital last week. I watched him get

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<v Speaker 5>two sacks. I watched him run down. He'll smash and running, big,

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<v Speaker 5>smashing wide receiver, chasing players, down force and fumbles.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is a hurricane.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched that game too, and I was sitting there

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about Fred because he mentioned him, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>who is this And they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying he was elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the cult, so I'm like, and they were saying,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a high number tackle guy for the Coat, So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, wow. He said it was a great, great

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<v Speaker 4>pickup by the Giants. But man, he made his presence

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<v Speaker 4>known that night. I mean he was everywhere, gat every.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really glad you brought Okarek up because I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy that kind of encapsulates the defense in

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<v Speaker 1>a nice way. And what I mean by that is like,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a guy that is like high risk, high reward,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is a guy that is big, he's fast,

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<v Speaker 1>he's physical, all those things. But is he always in

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<v Speaker 1>the right spot? Is he always doing what he's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I don't know, but he shows him and

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<v Speaker 1>makes plays, and I think that's what this defense is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we are gonna boom a B. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>reving the engine. We're going to get it and if

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<v Speaker 1>we hit it, great, If we don't, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a big play, and I think that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>what that defense is. I'm glad you brought up Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Like that guy is an absolute bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you got to double him. Bear, you got double him.

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<v Speaker 1>At the point he is, like I watched, I would

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<v Speaker 1>just watch all their pressures before the we started shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>He is probably a probably counts for fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>their pressures. Like, I'm not kidding, is this.

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<v Speaker 2>Game it has to get I'm saying, is it a

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<v Speaker 2>Nick gate Gay?

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<v Speaker 4>He know these guys, he know what they do, he

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<v Speaker 4>knows everything about him. Nick Gates Lawrence. Is that the

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<v Speaker 4>matchup that changes this game?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was watching the Dallas game and he is

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<v Speaker 1>literally forklifting that center, Yeah, into the quarterbacks lat It's

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<v Speaker 1>a quick game, like up off your feet into the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's a that's a pressure that's affecting the throw.

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<v Speaker 1>And that happens all two days a time. They also

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<v Speaker 1>got Williams, the other guy number ninety nine the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end there, They've they've got some talented pieces, But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is one of the best defensive players in the division. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got to account for him in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Okaariki's obviously they got at the second level.

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<v Speaker 1>They have some guys in the back end that are talented,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're to me, they're leveraged so much like they're

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<v Speaker 1>in these crazy man of man situations all out more.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they can't like show what they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to kind of as a note against the bells,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pressure as much.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they set the zone a couple of times

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<v Speaker 4>running quarter Josh Allen at the quarterback position forces you

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<v Speaker 4>out of man, and man forces you out of two.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>We want all eleven looking at the quarterback. That's why

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta play off. So how how you see?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you had to just yes, what you

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<v Speaker 4>think his approach would be with saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Sama pocket pass, he getting out to him. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>play man and.

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<v Speaker 2>Man and hic go.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is, do we try to push the ball

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<v Speaker 4>down in the field then, because that's what you need

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<v Speaker 4>to do to back them mouth. Get into these guys quick,

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<v Speaker 4>get them quick, slip screens, slants. You know some of

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<v Speaker 4>the things I saw last week in the zone when

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<v Speaker 4>we played Atlanta. But I was watching just how your

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<v Speaker 4>boy digs got off early and I was watching them.

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<v Speaker 3>He getting in the zones. They was tearing them.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Diggs was just getting open every now and

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<v Speaker 4>then in that zone, running slants and stuff. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>the first thing he came to mind. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a different quarterback. He's a he's a threat differently when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to you know what I mean. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>how would you approach a guy like us, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like Sam in our office? And the first thing I

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<v Speaker 4>thought about, I say, they're gonna be pressed. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>press these guys that you got a guy in Banks

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<v Speaker 4>who they who they're very confident in ye.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he played Digs like no other. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>he's a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm literally bro.

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<v Speaker 3>He was in his face.

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<v Speaker 2>He was playing.

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<v Speaker 4>And don't get me wrong, dig still had a game,

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<v Speaker 4>but Diggs was catching everything against everybody else. It was

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<v Speaker 4>hard against Banks, you know what I mean. And they

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<v Speaker 4>had got another guy, Dorry Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>He showed up play some football.

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<v Speaker 1>He flashed a couple time.

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<v Speaker 4>He's healthy flop float or something like that. He flashed

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of times. He played the slot corner. So

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<v Speaker 4>they have guys that's that's okay. In the secondary, but

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we have enough receivers that can go

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, I receive was told you know what

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<v Speaker 4>in them last year too, so they remember us too

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<v Speaker 4>well in that you know, in that group. I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to I just want to know, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>I was mainly wanted to come in and act. You

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<v Speaker 4>do you see them changing that scheme up against us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're gonna have to They're gonna press us.

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<v Speaker 3>They got you.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna make only from the pockets only, and they

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go plus one a plush two to the blitz.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why the screen game come in.

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<v Speaker 5>They quick screen with the wire receiver, with running back screens,

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<v Speaker 5>anything to get them going sideways.

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<v Speaker 4>That they were showing little stunts here and there when

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<v Speaker 4>they was bringing your boy mcfatten, but then they were

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<v Speaker 4>dropping the end and yeah, so it look like he

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<v Speaker 4>was bringing five or six, but it's still only bringing

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<v Speaker 4>four and just dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw it hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And this team or whatever it's worth, it's struggled

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<v Speaker 1>with simulated pressure Sam specifically, right, And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a big kind of mental lift for

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Howe because it's like, are you getting actual pressure?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I hot? Does the ball need to be out.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I accelerating my process unnecessarily. That's what this wing

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Dell defense does because it's it's very you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's varied, and like when you watch the San Francisco game,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Tannel, real quick is they won that game because

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<v Speaker 1>rock Perty is able to identify what's happening and get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball ball out correct and it's not even like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like not even like short stuff. It's like there

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<v Speaker 1>was a touchdown that they threw where it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>deep corner and he just loses ground delivers the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's how you get him out of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can hit it, but you gotta be brave

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<v Speaker 1>and patient.

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<v Speaker 4>And so my question is the reason why I trust

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<v Speaker 4>me I'm watching Feminine. I'm asking the same question offensively

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<v Speaker 4>as a coordinator, as a coach, what do you do

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<v Speaker 4>to make him to allow him to think less? Because

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<v Speaker 4>you see it already, you know that that's how he's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna come. He's gonna he's gonna want your you're a

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<v Speaker 4>young quarterback to think and he already sees when he's thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>when he giving up sacks.

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<v Speaker 3>You know every time he don't.

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<v Speaker 4>See that first read, second read, he go to patting

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<v Speaker 4>that ball, he's not he's hesitant to take off and run.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do we make him think less? Put him on,

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<v Speaker 4>put him on the run, move the pocket, things like that,

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 4>you boot you quarterback rago. These plays are set to

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<v Speaker 4>get the ball out. When you you gotta get the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I or you have guys in that lane.

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<v Speaker 4>And when get it to and we established the run,

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<v Speaker 4>then it opens up play action.

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<v Speaker 2>Play action.

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<v Speaker 5>The ball has to get out of your hand after

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<v Speaker 5>the fake, after their foot hits that their backfoot hit

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 5>the ground, you gotta let the ball go. So how

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<v Speaker 5>about we men of fitt, this is when you let

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<v Speaker 5>the ball out instead of letting him figure it out

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<v Speaker 5>from the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean for me, if I was like thinking

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<v Speaker 1>the tools that we've used or Kyle's given us or

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Sean we were here Jay, to a certain extent, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like use Kayden's quite a bit because like if I

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<v Speaker 1>can identify where guys are dropping out, who's coming in

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>using motion, Like identifying man coverage versus his own coverage

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty big tell for when they're bringing pressure

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're not. Like those are things I know people

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<v Speaker 1>do yeah, yeah, but I would say cadence would be

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<v Speaker 1>one that I would like to see more of, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>can you use more cadence to get them to tip rotation,

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<v Speaker 1>to get them to tip who's coming, who's dropping out,

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.199
<v Speaker 1>identify the mic correctly. That's stuff that I think like

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<v Speaker 1>when we played with Kirker, when I played with the Shawn,

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<v Speaker 1>or when I play with Matt Ryan, They're constantly doing

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<v Speaker 1>those little things to find the correct solution. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that obviously offensively to handle the blitz. Defensively got

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<v Speaker 1>to handle just can you get home?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it comes down to yourself, all right. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you always say, Tanna, this could be a banana

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in the tail pipe game. Could be a bana the

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<v Speaker 1>tail pipe game.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to dedicate this this segment to my dad.

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 4>He always told me, don't fall for the banana. Mouse

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<v Speaker 4>Mos said, Yo, you know what, and I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 4>say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, between the last.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to watch this.

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<v Speaker 3>Cutting me out already.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So they do have some playmakers. We've talked

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>about some of them already. Let's start on the oppotion,

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the side of the ball they got in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>banana tailpipe. Yeah, Darren Waller very talented. He's not playing

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But I think it's hard. You said this

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<v Speaker 1>standard like not quite.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't look comfortable. It looks like a guy. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is one of the things I've always told folks. People

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<v Speaker 4>be coot to say the grass is greener, go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Always was hesitant because you can be putting up numbers, comfortable,

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<v Speaker 4>got the right offense around you, right coaching style, right quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you go elsewhere for the money, and it's just

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<v Speaker 4>not hitting. You're not hitting on all cylinders. You're still

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 4>trying to get, you know, used to what you see.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I see from theren on. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 4>them week after week, like when is he gonna be

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 4>the guy?

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<v Speaker 3>But he is the guy.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 4>He came in as the guy, and certain guys play

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<v Speaker 4>better when than not the guy. Yeah, when I'm the

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 4>second or third guy, he's number one. Right now, they

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<v Speaker 4>try to run the offense through the tight end and

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<v Speaker 4>then to get to everybody else, and they can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not ready for the challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know exactly what you're talking about. I am

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 5>a test subject to that. I left here and went

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<v Speaker 5>to Minnesota and just did not like it. I wasn't

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 5>comfortable they wanted me to play cover two. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>man corner.

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<v Speaker 4>Just so many things, so the grass ain't always green

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<v Speaker 4>on absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a guy that's very very talented. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we show we've shown over the course of

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.400
<v Speaker 1>this season so far that like we match up, We've

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>been matching up okay with tight ends, you know, specifically

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>coll Pits. Even though he had a good game, like

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't super productive. I think we've got pieces that can

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>match up with him. But yeah, he's a guy that's

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>very talented. You mentioned Wandel Robinson, like that dude is.

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 2>He's in a different He's a handful.

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<v Speaker 1>In a different offense. You're talking about him maybe being like,

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the most effective offensive weapons.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's mind me and right now the kid out

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 3>that that that you got.

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<v Speaker 4>In Detroit, Yeah, has that same kind had that same

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 4>like you watch him who stops and Noll crosses and

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 4>getting getting right now, right now. Every time he got

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 4>the ball, C two split him, you know what I mean,

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 4>he was getting that ball and he didn't do no

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 4>moves straight up field four five, six, seven yards like

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<v Speaker 4>and to be a small guy like he.

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<v Speaker 2>Look like Steve Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 4>He's seventy smaller than me, you know what I mean.

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 4>And you ain't tall, but you ain't cockier than most men.

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. Most guys play my position. I'm

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 4>way more stout than those guys. And he's not as

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<v Speaker 4>big as me, you know what i mean. He remind

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 4>me of a build for the kid who was there

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 4>did the saucer. Oh, Victor Cruise, Victor Cruish, but a

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 4>little shorter. So he's you know, he looks a little

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 4>you know, he looks a little more compact because he's shorter. Yeah, well,

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 4>no he's not. He's not up there with our weight.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 4>He probably in a one hundred and seventy.

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Some pounds pound.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 3>See, I'm we was one eighty one nineties, you know

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Trust me.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>So, but they do have weapons. Slaton's another guy you

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Hyatt. They do have explosive weapons. But again I

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>go back to this idea that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't get it to him because of the office

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 4>quiet I mean too, you know, they still trying to

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 4>find a way to get hired active, you know what

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, get them involved, and they bring them in

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 4>and try to hit the same week.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the week.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Saying, not to say that, I'm saying that I would

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 3>want to see that, But that's how.

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 4>They're thinking, Like this is the time, you know, when

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 4>you put stuff on film, all we can do is

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 4>see if you're gonna correct yourself.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 3>And we've put it on tape.

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 4>We've showed time and time again that we're gonna, you know,

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 4>get a guy too behind us. So we have to

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 4>be mindful that these guys are watching what we put

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 4>on tape and they gonna come at those, you know.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so that's those are the guys offensive he

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<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley is another guy, very productive in the Bills game,

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<v Speaker 1>but before that long run in the fourth quarter if

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly, averaging one point two yards of rush.

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So he's a talented player behind a bat offense.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>It ain't him, No, it's five guys in front.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Of I don't think anyone's saying it's him.

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 4>That Sa Kwan basically was stopped in the backfield and

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 4>got four or five it. So it's like, you know,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 4>don't let him feel constable enough that he can have one.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>But he always has. He always has big games against US.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I think his last two hundred yard games were against

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the Commanders.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Shut him down in that first game. The game he's

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 4>heads up and down down game.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so what is it? It says first time in

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<v Speaker 1>Giants lost the game, Barkley had twenty two or more

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>carries despite missing half the six game did okay? Barkley's

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>two biggest rushing games in his career have both come

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<v Speaker 1>versus Washington career high one hundred and eighty nine yards

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<v Speaker 1>Week fifteen, twenty nineteen, and back week twenty thirteen or

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Week thirteen of twenty eighteen, he rushed around to seven yeards.

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So guys, that's what I meant. He has. His two

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>biggest productions came against US. But again, with a bad

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, you can't do anything.

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.239
<v Speaker 5>So I'm sorry. That's why I didn't play offense. It

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 5>depends on too many people to do food to come right.

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It's the ultimate team space.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 4>I like to control my own destiny, and on offense,

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 4>I could be the best wide receiver in the NFL,

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 4>but if my offensive lining blocking from my quarterback, I

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 4>have no chance to succeed.

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>So so what I'd say then? Okay, So that's that's

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>there them on the U on the offensive side of

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball, very very talented, you know, maybe not a

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>true number one receiver, but got some pieces pieces. And

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's an interesting kind of thought experiment, is

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>when you look at early last year they found creative

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>ways to get saquon the ball in space like screens, bubbles,

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, as the wildcat guy, and you know, maybe

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>they can do something like that to kind of spark

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the offense, open it up a little bit, create some

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>space for dayl Aaron Waller. But they're gonna have to

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>be really creative to get that done, I guess. Is

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing I'd say is like beware of the bana

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and the tailpipe. Have talented people. They have shown they

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>can do it with not a great offensive line, but

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>again not very likely defensively. Kevon Thibodeau. We mentioned Bobby Okareiki,

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned der Lawrence. Very talented people, but you know,

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you got to kind of just be aware

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of what they're breaking.

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Put a banana in the tailpipe, why not a pumpkin?

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Like pumpkins are useless.

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't fit in the tailpipe. I don't think

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>they cut it up and put it in there this guy.

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I love bananas. I don't think we should ruin bananas

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>by putting in the pipe.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you are you worried about this defense at all? Friend?

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I am, but not because of the personnel. You're worried

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>about the coordinator.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm worried about coordinator meets personnel, Like this is what

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm worried about. Like, if they gonna stay in this

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 5>game with us, it's gonna be because of the defense,

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 5>not because of the office.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 4>They going to hit to the office, protect the ball.

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 4>If we're gonna try to get y'all a short feel,

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 4>make the play when we present it. I'm afraid of

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 4>this defense. I think this defense is a lot better

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 4>than they.

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Are on paper.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 5>I think they play at a high level, especially when

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 5>they play against us. But I can't put any I

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 5>can't judge the past because Sam High would not quarter.

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 4>They say Sam was our quarterback and Eb wasn't our

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 4>quarter OC.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm a little scared of this of what the Giants

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 4>defense may present us. Just from seeing them over the years,

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I think coming into this game, they do have us

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 4>nice what six weeks of film to watch and say, Okay,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 4>this is what they've been doing. But I do also

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 4>believe also the playbooks so big, we still haven't tapped

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>into where we can go and getting so much you

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, so much more stuff that he's

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 4>probably installing this week because it's a different opponent, you

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>And it's a guy we're gonna see twice too.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 4>So that's the one thing that gives me a breath

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 4>of fresh air to say, hey, at least we have

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 4>something going for us when it comes to new OC,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 4>new quarterback and Sam one of those guys like you

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 4>mess around and try to blitz or not. And he

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 4>see Terry out there one on one with Press Cottage,

0:31:58.600 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 4>he gonna tie you.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 5>He gonna tell maybe it's a Logan game because if

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 5>you don't blitz, is uli your linebacker's blitzing.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>So now the tight end thing's.

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Matched up matchups with safeties, and we know Logan is huge,

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 5>his catch ratings is huge. So I'm thinking the only

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 5>way to stop them from blitzing is to go to

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 5>the tight end early enough.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, like they're the twenty eight, they're

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like not a good defense. They're like twenty seventh in

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>total defense. Right, they're thirty first against the rush, they're

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>sixteenth against the pass. To give you some context on

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>those numbers as fans, Right, they're thirty first in the

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>league versus rushing because they've been playing from behind the quibbit, right,

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>so like teams are gonna run the ball more. Also,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I think they've played some teams that are really dynamic offenses. Right,

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>they played buff played Buffalo Miami, They've played the forty

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>nine ers, right, maybe one of the best teams in football.

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So I do think this defense is probably better than

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>what the numbers are on paper because they've got they've

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>had better competition. But again, it's to me, this is

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the side of the football that is more scary, to

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>your point, Fred, Like, it's because they've got some dynamic

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>playmakers and they also it's there's a it's risk reward

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's basically gambling every time he blitzes. And we've

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>seen that Sam in certain situations has a hard time

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>with the stuff that this defense right, right, right, right,

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>So that being said, all this conversation going on, Yeah,

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're getting a little tired.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>No I'm not.

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>You're good, all right? Is this chilli in here, but

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like it. This is my time.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>You give me a piece of pumpkin.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't like pumpkin? What are you talking about? All right?

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So where are the commander's advantages in this game? Okay?

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So what we're gonna do for this is we're gonna

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>say we're going to New York. We're excited. New York lights,

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Broadway lights. Yeah, what name of what player would you

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like to see up there in those lights? Is the

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>guy that takes over the game or has the biggest

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>advantage in this game? I say, okay, why.

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Just he's been disrupted all year long. Don't matter who

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 4>you have. And when you're facing against a team, when

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 4>two of your guards are giving up five sacks apiece

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 4>and they're tied for first and second in the league,

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 4>this is a game where you might see the Ron

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Pain or Johnathan Allen our interior really have a chance

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 4>to really, you know, make some noise. You know this

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 4>this is one of those games when you have a

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 4>guy like Daniel Dredis, Daniel Jones or Tyrod Taylor.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to see them.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 4>I want to see that pocket collapse, but I want

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.959
<v Speaker 4>to see the inside. I want to see these guys

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 4>make it hard for the quarterback to step up because

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 4>now if he's trying to get outside, you got those

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 4>guys who can run, those guys with the long ums

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 4>that can you know, grab him and hold him down.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 4>So dron pain. This is one of those games that

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 4>I want to see him in the lights.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, he'll be up against Marcus McKeith, who's a

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>second year player out in Carolina. He was undrafted, big guy,

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>physical guy, but again, like just the experienced the explosiveness

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>of pain. He should be getting after that. And he's

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>also the backup.

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 4>See Johann John dots yohar, I see Dots. We all

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 4>wait on the game from him, waiting on debt game.

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 4>I think this is debt game for him.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I think back home, back home.

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 4>So I just think it's deck game for him, and

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 4>not just catching balls.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about yeck yards. I'm talking about targets.

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 4>I think coach bing is gonna say, you know what,

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 4>let me let me target him man times.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get his comforty is going. I got to

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 2>get him going.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 5>And if they don't blitz a lot, the here's gonna

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 5>be a lot of one on ones out there.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 4>I think with his right running skills, he ain't the

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 4>one you want to see in one on one.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he wins it battle.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Yep. It looks like he's been, you know, watching filming

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a funk. Hopefully this is an

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for him to get out of that. You mentioned

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the right running. He's had productive games up there in

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the past last year. I think, yeah, he did to

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>spend more. I think it's his game. Yeah. I hope so, man,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>because it'd be great if he could kind of come

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to life or imagine what that would do for this

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>offense would be great. And for me, I'm gonna go

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>someone who doesn't get their name in the lights very often,

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's Snick Gates. And it's only because of the

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>matchup with Dextra Lawrence, like he is the most strophic.

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But you you didn't take it though.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I see Gates versus Lawrench.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>But you could have said that now.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Versus Loan.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'll pick a different one Freda though, but

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Nick Gay versus Lawrence because I think he's the most

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.879
<v Speaker 1>disruptive weapon on the defense right and and you got

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to manage that. And so Nick Gates is gonna line up,

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>head up with him a lot. He's obviously gonna get

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>help from Sam, Cosmy, Sadik, Charles. They're all gonna have

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to work together to get that done. But I think

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>if you can keep him quiet, that defense becomes a

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit more newter. That's better for us. But because

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I sold freds, you're gonna go in a different direction,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's Sam Howe, because it's really Sam Howe versus

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Wink Martindale. And if Sam has a good game and

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>we're getting his name up in the marquee, it's because

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>he's identified pressure as well. He's gotten the ball out

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of his hands quickly. He's not taking a lot of sacks.

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And again that starts in the week that starts on Wednesday,

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 1>with the first practice. That starts with you be getting

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>him ready. All those things definitely kind of compile to

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>make that done. So it's a team effort for sure.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>But if his name's up there, we're probably winning this

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>football game.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right about that?

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree with all Right, So now it's time for

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>everyone's favorite part of the show.

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>What is that?

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>If you have to guess, what do you think it is?

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Fred Smooth Live.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the whole show, all right, I mean

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about a guy whos just full of himself.

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Somebody gotta be it's.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Game predictions, game predictions.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>So and you pick gets the team like three times

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 2>this year?

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I just I think only once, actually twice.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be real.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>So Danna so game score and we're doing this on Wednesday, guys,

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so sometimes we're a little bit off in terms of field.

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Got a better fiel, Yeah, a little a little over eager, right,

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>So Tanna what you got.

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like somewhere around in the twenty four seventeen,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna stamp who's the one out of that

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Do it last?

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you didn't and it's a good luck.

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna leave it up there like that. I

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 3>mean work, No, Honestly.

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 4>The reason why I say that because, like I said before,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm we are the company man. We could sit here

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 4>and say Command win every week. Is the team that

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 4>we've had problems with one percent. So these guys have

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 4>to show this another week. They have to go out

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 4>there and show me who you are and beat their

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.439
<v Speaker 4>chest a little big and show me that they really

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 4>who they say they are. You know what I mean,

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 4>I feel like we're capable of beating any anybody. I'm

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 4>always ride with us. Yeah, just know that my heart

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 4>is always going to bleed what they bleed. But I

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 4>ain't from Missouri, but they got to show me.

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you brought that up because one of

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the things about this team it's been since I've covered

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the team is they tend to be a little up

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>and down depending on the opponent. Can they be up

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<v Speaker 1>for a team that they are better than. Can they

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<v Speaker 1>play better than the correct as opposed to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this up ebb and flow that's stepping up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>Can they approach this week with the same focus they

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<v Speaker 1>had last week? And I think if they can, they

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<v Speaker 1>should win this game. There are more talented roster top

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<v Speaker 1>to bottom, right are the Giants and NFL football team?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this going to be a tough game? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>have tough matchups with them? One percent? But top to

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<v Speaker 1>bottom we're better. We should win. Yeah, if we're prepped

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<v Speaker 1>and ready to go up properly. Yeah. So what's your

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<v Speaker 1>What my score is? I like your score a lot, Tanner,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to steal your score, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say still all the time. I'm gonna say twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, twenty three to fourteen, I think is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say. I think this defense is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's different. Price is right, A little bit right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little under. I like to score. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to take it exactly. So I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a to score game.

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<v Speaker 5>Feeling the energy in the building this week, it don't

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<v Speaker 5>feel like the players are patting themself on the back

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<v Speaker 5>from the Atlanta win.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed that like that. I enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like they got their focus here of this

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<v Speaker 4>the team that stopped us from going to the playoffs

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<v Speaker 4>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the team we had to beat twice.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be given the pregame speech. Man, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>excited this listening.

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<v Speaker 5>We have to understand we need to make a we

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<v Speaker 5>need to send a message with this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so, I'm going to go thirty to fifteen. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>To get that fifteen, we probably got to give up

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<v Speaker 4>a safety. I'm fired, probably gonna beat triple though getting

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<v Speaker 4>the safe. But what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Is thirty to fifteen, decisive win.

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<v Speaker 2>Lead from the door.

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<v Speaker 5>They're behind most of the game playing ketchup with a

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback Tyrod Taylor Daniel Jones. The secondary shows up again

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<v Speaker 5>takes the battle away three times.

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<v Speaker 1>If this, if the Commanders get out to a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a lead, the Giants are gonna have a really.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard time kitchen. Yeah, but they're not built to catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the game flow stays even, yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Atlanta. If the game flows even, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be at the entire time a spark.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody got to make a play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but hey, that was a really nice really I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>I was fired up about already.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, fifteen, that's well man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so obviously we're hoping for a win. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the New York Giants, so you never know what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, But I know why the Giants and name the Giants? No,

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<v Speaker 2>you go, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just kinda people like, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a cool his.

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<v Speaker 2>Name for the giant buildings, the skyscrapers.

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<v Speaker 1>Tanna leave me out, Jason? You got your phone with him?

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<v Speaker 1>Ya got? There are certain things that I cannot tolerate,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's complete. Who were.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready to New York Giants get their name from here

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<v Speaker 3>we go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think the mobile working.

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<v Speaker 1>Syriah was like, no, thank you, hold on, gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to me, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Put it up.

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<v Speaker 5>I have no solid gave y'all gotta understand, man, it's

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<v Speaker 5>for the Giant Buildings, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>What we got ten?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody can find it.

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<v Speaker 4>The team was named after the National League Baseball Giants,

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<v Speaker 4>who were a long time favorite of the New York

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<v Speaker 4>At the time, baseball was the keen professional sports, so

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 4>owner Tim Marrow wanted the same name recognition and hopes

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<v Speaker 4>that fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Would support their clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>this week? Fred?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything? Yeah, last week was bubbles. Whatever it is this

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<v Speaker 1>week we'll figure it out. Next Man Up is another

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>podcast where he gets inside access with this guy. This

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<v Speaker 1>week it's Shamon Davis gets to know the man behind

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<v Speaker 1>the helmet. Love that show players Club Tanna. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorites you got this week? Oh, that'll be

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<v Speaker 1>awesome man. He's playing awesome man. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what that's all about. And we got our command

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<v Speaker 1>Center special from New York be Mitch and Santana in

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<v Speaker 1>New York breaking down the game. Tanna, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing up.

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<v Speaker 3>There New York City? Your dreams is?

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