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Speaker 1: In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we are

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Speaker 1: previewing the Giants. Are they really as bad as their

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Speaker 1: one in five records? I don't think so. I love

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna preview the offense and defense. Tanna never

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Speaker 1: fall for the banana and the tailpipe, right, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: They got some talented people on this team. We gotta

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Speaker 1: be careful. And you can't eat a tomato without teeth.

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Speaker 2: You can't, dummy.

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Speaker 1: And Fred, this is maybe my favorite moment of this show.

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Speaker 1: You get caught in a giant line. Check it out

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Speaker 1: in the other.

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Speaker 3: And never believe it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot, who's wearing the same shirt from last episode.

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Speaker 2: That's tough, thank you, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: And then Santana Moss always impeccably dressed.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you live like Owen Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I do. Thank you. Was like a handsome guy, right,

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I mean he's got crooked nose, but

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Speaker 1: that's crooked nose. Guys gotta stick to Yeah, I understand it.

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Speaker 1: You can't all be devilishly hands I'm like, that's.

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Speaker 2: Who you should be for Halloween. Wow, he's just you've.

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Speaker 1: Been watching love Yeah, all right, so guys Giants this week? Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, man, did you just start off with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't help itself.

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Speaker 4: So many but so many years I've here in this

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Speaker 1: Of this show.

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Speaker 5: And we hate the Giants. Man, we just can't beat them.

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Speaker 5: It's something about the Giants. I couldn't beat him with

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Speaker 5: straight hand and OC and we can't beat them now.

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Speaker 5: It's it's sickening into my stomach when the team has

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Speaker 3: I show this with my brother.

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Speaker 4: My brother played with the Giants, he played on the

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Speaker 4: you know, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 3: The year we finally beat you out twice.

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Speaker 1: That's the year.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's just crazy. How crazy is that? Like the

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Speaker 4: Like we talked more about the Cowboys when we get ready,

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Speaker 2: They destroy us.

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Speaker 3: I'm matter what happens the game we have every now

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Speaker 1: We all. I guess matchups make fights. So let's talk

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Speaker 2: They're not making big holes for sake.

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Speaker 4: It did, but it was bit because Daniel Jones miraculously

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Speaker 4: Run athletic ability that that year, last year, more than

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Speaker 4: They was in games and had those chances to win

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Like it's one of those things where I

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Speaker 4: You know, that team probably took on a different mantra

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Speaker 5: But I also seen Darren Waller make some plays which

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Speaker 3: Or two of them.

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Speaker 2: It don't matter. They're playing us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're playing us. I don't care what they record is.

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Speaker 4: We ain't got over this hurdle of this mountain yet.

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Speaker 4: We have to beat New York and we have to

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Speaker 4: beat them twice, they go into the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just crazy, Like.

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Speaker 4: Can't circuit on that schedule right games. This is a team, right,

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Speaker 4: let's get our step together this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm with it all right, So let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit more detailed about what they like to do. So

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Speaker 1: what type of offense do they run? And then what

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Speaker 1: because we will, Like John Allen deron paint. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough. So that's offensively, it's a it's a West

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Speaker 1: And the problem again, I hate to beat a dead horse,

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Speaker 1: but me, they can't get the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: They are thirty thirty second in passing yards in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: It's moving or it's within ten yards of line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: and outside of that it's rough. And they want to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand right there at ten yard and when

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Speaker 1: I'm coming down here, and when I see and get

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Speaker 1: that ball, I'm like, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Pro I'm hitting them out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's what I think about the offense. And

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Speaker 1: I think defensively, Fred, Yeah, you can game plan for that.

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Speaker 2: I think the defense is better than then they getting props.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk offense. I'm saying, commanders, defense, how would

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna actually play these guys. I know y'all don't

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Speaker 4: want to hear this.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna play a man, and I'm going plus

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Speaker 5: two on the rush I'm getting I want I want

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Speaker 5: can make them play from behind is to get at

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Speaker 5: them early. Now, my first hand plan get out them

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Speaker 5: second hand playing play with the shape, but I'm going

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Speaker 5: to attack them first. I want them always behind the chains.

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Speaker 5: You just said it.

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Speaker 4: They're not good and third and six plus I want

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Speaker 5: Looking third and two in the face. And the only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if I got Dan you Jones in there.

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Speaker 4: He's coming coming back from being being being a little hamper.

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Speaker 4: I might take that approach, But when I watched Tyrod

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Speaker 1: A much better scrambled scrambler.

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Speaker 4: They moved the pocket with him earlier in that game

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Speaker 4: what I mean, being what the guy name is the Hyatt?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, uh, little Robinson truth.

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Speaker 4: So Tyrod Taylor in there, I'm I'm backing off of

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Speaker 4: trying to bring too many people that took at the

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Speaker 3: He was finding the ways to get that ball to him.

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Speaker 4: Now where they beat up Dang Jones kind of little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might get him back. Share I want.

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Speaker 4: I want to bring a guy to him, make him think,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna try to run up out of there.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm blitching here. I'm blitting him to not

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Speaker 5: give him any lanes. But Cody Barton showed you sending

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Speaker 5: me downhill. I'm not good at catching, but I am

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Speaker 1: Down He that was that was a changing play style

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Speaker 1: it's like, if you can stop the keeper game, the

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Speaker 1: want to say is toothless, but there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: So can you keep him in there?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: bring pressure to do that or if you just coach

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Speaker 2: To do it all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you. Was that related to what I

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about the damn I would think I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's that's the high level thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the offense. And I get you keep bringing this out

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Speaker 1: and I want to bring this home. Tyrod Taylor is

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Speaker 1: a better He's a better scrambler in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: Because he scrambles to throw Jones scrambles to.

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Speaker 1: Think there's something to that.

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Speaker 4: So maybe a Jones deer in the head like Tyrod,

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Speaker 4: Like nah, I am the head, like I can see everything,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how he looks in game

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Speaker 1: two because I always think backup quarterbacks look really good

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Speaker 1: because this team doesn't have any film on him. Yeah

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Speaker 1: and then but yeah, so I think that's the offense now.

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Speaker 1: Defensively a little bit more fun to talk about. But

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Speaker 1: they're not playing that great either, Yea, Fred, what do

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Speaker 1: you see.

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Speaker 5: Any wink morning Dale defense? I am afraid of. I

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Speaker 5: respect Tribadeou. He loves playing us, him and little I

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Speaker 5: don't know what kind of relationship they got, but it

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Speaker 5: ain't good. Indeed, you got big Lawrence, Lawrence makes plays

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Speaker 5: man that linebacking cool.

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Speaker 2: I forgot the linebacker names. I can't pronounce it.

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Speaker 3: Mcfatten forty one.

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Speaker 1: And oh the other guy o O kareky Okay.

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Speaker 5: He can flat out go get no. No, he's playing

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Speaker 5: like a Pro Bowl this dude. I watched him send

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Speaker 5: two sacks. I watched him run down. He'll smash and running, big,

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Speaker 5: smashing wide receiver, chasing players, down force and fumbles.

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Speaker 2: This guy is a hurricane.

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Speaker 4: I watched that game too, and I was sitting there

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Speaker 4: thinking about Fred because he mentioned him, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: who is this And they were.

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Speaker 3: Saying he was elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: He was the cult, so I'm like, and they were saying,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, wow. He said it was a great, great

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Speaker 4: pickup by the Giants. But man, he made his presence

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Speaker 4: known that night. I mean he was everywhere, gat every.

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought Okarek up because I think

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Speaker 1: a nice way. And what I mean by that is like,

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Speaker 1: he is a guy that is like high risk, high reward,

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Speaker 1: and he is a guy that is big, he's fast,

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Speaker 1: he's physical, all those things. But is he always in

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Speaker 1: the right spot? Is he always doing what he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be. I don't know, but he shows him and

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Speaker 1: makes plays, and I think that's what this defense is.

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Speaker 1: It's like we are gonna boom a B. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: reving the engine. We're going to get it and if

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Speaker 1: we hit it, great, If we don't, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big play, and I think that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: what that defense is. I'm glad you brought up Lawrence

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Speaker 1: as well. Like that guy is an absolute bear.

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Speaker 2: Got you got to double him. Bear, you got double him.

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Speaker 1: At the point he is, like I watched, I would

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Speaker 1: just watch all their pressures before the we started shooting.

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Speaker 1: He is probably a probably counts for fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: their pressures. Like, I'm not kidding, is this.

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Speaker 2: Game it has to get I'm saying, is it a

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Speaker 2: Nick gate Gay?

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Speaker 4: He know these guys, he know what they do, he

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Speaker 4: knows everything about him. Nick Gates Lawrence. Is that the

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Speaker 4: matchup that changes this game?

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Speaker 1: Because I was watching the Dallas game and he is

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Speaker 1: literally forklifting that center, Yeah, into the quarterbacks lat It's

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Speaker 1: a quick game, like up off your feet into the backfield.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a that's a pressure that's affecting the throw.

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Speaker 1: And that happens all two days a time. They also

441
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,920
Speaker 1: got Williams, the other guy number ninety nine the defensive

442
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,639
Speaker 1: end there, They've they've got some talented pieces, But to me,

443
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,879
Speaker 1: Lawrence is one of the best defensive players in the division. Yeah,

444
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,440
Speaker 1: and you got to account for him in some way.

445
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 1: And then Okaariki's obviously they got at the second level.

446
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Speaker 1: They have some guys in the back end that are talented,

447
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,640
Speaker 1: but they're to me, they're leveraged so much like they're

448
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 1: in these crazy man of man situations all out more.

449
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,679
Speaker 1: I know that they can't like show what they're gonna do.

450
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: And just to kind of as a note against the bells,

451
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,160
Speaker 1: didn't pressure as much.

452
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 4: And then they set the zone a couple of times

453
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 4: running quarter Josh Allen at the quarterback position forces you

454
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 4: out of man, and man forces you out of two.

455
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 2: Man.

456
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 5: We want all eleven looking at the quarterback. That's why

457
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 5: you gotta play off. So how how you see?

458
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 4: I mean, if you had to just yes, what you

459
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 4: think his approach would be with saying.

460
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 5: Sama pocket pass, he getting out to him. They're gonna

461
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 5: play man and.

462
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 2: Man and hic go.

463
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 4: The thing is, do we try to push the ball

464
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 4: down in the field then, because that's what you need

465
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 4: to do to back them mouth. Get into these guys quick,

466
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 4: get them quick, slip screens, slants. You know some of

467
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 4: the things I saw last week in the zone when

468
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 4: we played Atlanta. But I was watching just how your

469
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 4: boy digs got off early and I was watching them.

470
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Speaker 3: He getting in the zones. They was tearing them.

471
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 4: I mean, Diggs was just getting open every now and

472
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 4: then in that zone, running slants and stuff. And that's

473
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 4: the first thing he came to mind. I'm like, that's

474
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 4: a different quarterback. He's a he's a threat differently when

475
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 4: it comes to you know what I mean. So I'm like,

476
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,719
Speaker 4: how would you approach a guy like us, you know,

477
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 4: like Sam in our office? And the first thing I

478
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 4: thought about, I say, they're gonna be pressed. They're gonna

479
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 4: press these guys that you got a guy in Banks

480
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: who they who they're very confident in ye.

481
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 3: I mean, he played Digs like no other. I mean

482
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: he's a rookie.

483
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 2: I'm literally bro.

484
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 3: He was in his face.

485
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: He was playing.

486
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, dig still had a game,

487
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 4: but Diggs was catching everything against everybody else. It was

488
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 4: hard against Banks, you know what I mean. And they

489
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 4: had got another guy, Dorry Jackson.

490
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 3: He showed up play some football.

491
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: He flashed a couple time.

492
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 4: He's healthy flop float or something like that. He flashed

493
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 4: a couple of times. He played the slot corner. So

494
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 4: they have guys that's that's okay. In the secondary, but

495
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 4: I feel like we have enough receivers that can go

496
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Speaker 4: to you know, I receive was told you know what

497
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 4: in them last year too, so they remember us too

498
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 4: well in that you know, in that group. I just

499
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 4: want to I just want to know, and I was

500
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: I was mainly wanted to come in and act. You

501
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 4: do you see them changing that scheme up against us.

502
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have to They're gonna press us.

503
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 3: They got you.

504
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: They're gonna make only from the pockets only, and they

505
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 4: gonna go plus one a plush two to the blitz.

506
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: And this is why the screen game come in.

507
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 5: They quick screen with the wire receiver, with running back screens,

508
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 5: anything to get them going sideways.

509
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 4: That they were showing little stunts here and there when

510
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: they was bringing your boy mcfatten, but then they were

511
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 4: dropping the end and yeah, so it look like he

512
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: was bringing five or six, but it's still only bringing

513
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 4: four and just dropping.

514
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Throw it hot.

515
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And this team or whatever it's worth, it's struggled

516
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: with simulated pressure Sam specifically, right, And I think this

517
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big kind of mental lift for

518
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: Sam Howe because it's like, are you getting actual pressure?

519
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: Am I hot? Does the ball need to be out.

520
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: Am I accelerating my process unnecessarily. That's what this wing

521
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: Martin Dell defense does because it's it's very you think

522
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: it's varied, and like when you watch the San Francisco game,

523
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: Sorry Tannel, real quick is they won that game because

524
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: rock Perty is able to identify what's happening and get

525
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: the ball ball out correct and it's not even like

526
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: it's like not even like short stuff. It's like there

527
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 1: was a touchdown that they threw where it's like a

528
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: deep corner and he just loses ground delivers the ball

529
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: and then that's how you get him out of that stuff.

530
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: And you can hit it, but you gotta be brave

531
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: and patient.

532
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 4: And so my question is the reason why I trust

533
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: me I'm watching Feminine. I'm asking the same question offensively

534
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 4: as a coordinator, as a coach, what do you do

535
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: to make him to allow him to think less? Because

536
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: you see it already, you know that that's how he's

537
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 4: gonna come. He's gonna he's gonna want your you're a

538
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: young quarterback to think and he already sees when he's thinking,

539
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 4: when he giving up sacks.

540
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: You know every time he don't.

541
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: See that first read, second read, he go to patting

542
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 4: that ball, he's not he's hesitant to take off and run.

543
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 4: So how do we make him think less? Put him on,

544
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 4: put him on the run, move the pocket, things like that,

545
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 4: you boot you quarterback rago. These plays are set to

546
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 4: get the ball out. When you you gotta get the ball,

547
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 4: I think I or you have guys in that lane.

548
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 4: And when get it to and we established the run,

549
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: then it opens up play action.

550
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Play action.

551
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 5: The ball has to get out of your hand after

552
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 5: the fake, after their foot hits that their backfoot hit

553
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 5: the ground, you gotta let the ball go. So how

554
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 5: about we men of fitt, this is when you let

555
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 5: the ball out instead of letting him figure it out

556
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 5: from the pocket.

557
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean for me, if I was like thinking

558
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: the tools that we've used or Kyle's given us or

559
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: Sean we were here Jay, to a certain extent, it's

560
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: like use Kayden's quite a bit because like if I

561
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 1: can identify where guys are dropping out, who's coming in

562
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: using motion, Like identifying man coverage versus his own coverage

563
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: is a pretty big tell for when they're bringing pressure

564
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: and they're not. Like those are things I know people

565
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: do yeah, yeah, but I would say cadence would be

566
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: one that I would like to see more of, Right,

567
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: can you use more cadence to get them to tip rotation,

568
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: to get them to tip who's coming, who's dropping out,

569
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: identify the mic correctly. That's stuff that I think like

570
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: when we played with Kirker, when I played with the Shawn,

571
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: or when I play with Matt Ryan, They're constantly doing

572
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: those little things to find the correct solution. So I

573
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: think that obviously offensively to handle the blitz. Defensively got

574
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: to handle just can you get home?

575
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: Really?

576
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to yourself, all right. But

577
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: as you always say, Tanna, this could be a banana

578
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: in the tail pipe game. Could be a bana the

579
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: tail pipe game.

580
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 4: I like to dedicate this this segment to my dad.

581
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: He always told me, don't fall for the banana. Mouse

582
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: Mos said, Yo, you know what, and I ain't gonna

583
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: say that.

584
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, between the last.

585
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: You got to watch this.

586
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: Cutting me out already.

587
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: All right. So they do have some playmakers. We've talked

588
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: about some of them already. Let's start on the oppotion,

589
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: the side of the ball they got in terms of

590
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: banana tailpipe. Yeah, Darren Waller very talented. He's not playing

591
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: as well. But I think it's hard. You said this

592
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: standard like not quite.

593
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 4: Don't look comfortable. It looks like a guy. And this

594
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: is one of the things I've always told folks. People

595
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: be coot to say the grass is greener, go elsewhere.

596
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: Always was hesitant because you can be putting up numbers, comfortable,

597
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 4: got the right offense around you, right coaching style, right quarterback.

598
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: Then you go elsewhere for the money, and it's just

599
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: not hitting. You're not hitting on all cylinders. You're still

600
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: trying to get, you know, used to what you see.

601
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: And that's what I see from theren on. I'm watching

602
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: them week after week, like when is he gonna be

603
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 4: the guy?

604
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: But he is the guy.

605
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: He came in as the guy, and certain guys play

606
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: better when than not the guy. Yeah, when I'm the

607
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: second or third guy, he's number one. Right now, they

608
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: try to run the offense through the tight end and

609
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 4: then to get to everybody else, and they can't do it.

610
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: It's not ready for the challenge.

611
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 5: And I know exactly what you're talking about. I am

612
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 5: a test subject to that. I left here and went

613
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 5: to Minnesota and just did not like it. I wasn't

614
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 5: comfortable they wanted me to play cover two. I'm a

615
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: man corner.

616
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: Just so many things, so the grass ain't always green

617
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: on absolutely so.

618
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that's very very talented. I think,

619
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Speaker 1: you know, we show we've shown over the course of

620
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: this season so far that like we match up, We've

621
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: been matching up okay with tight ends, you know, specifically

622
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: coll Pits. Even though he had a good game, like

623
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: wasn't super productive. I think we've got pieces that can

624
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: match up with him. But yeah, he's a guy that's

625
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: very talented. You mentioned Wandel Robinson, like that dude is.

626
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: He's in a different He's a handful.

627
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: In a different offense. You're talking about him maybe being like,

628
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, one of the most effective offensive weapons.

629
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 3: Like he's mind me and right now the kid out

630
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: that that that you got.

631
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: In Detroit, Yeah, has that same kind had that same

632
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: like you watch him who stops and Noll crosses and

633
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: getting getting right now, right now. Every time he got

634
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: the ball, C two split him, you know what I mean,

635
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: he was getting that ball and he didn't do no

636
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: moves straight up field four five, six, seven yards like

637
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: and to be a small guy like he.

638
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: Look like Steve Smith.

639
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: I think.

640
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 4: He's seventy smaller than me, you know what I mean.

641
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: And you ain't tall, but you ain't cockier than most men.

642
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Most guys play my position. I'm

643
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: way more stout than those guys. And he's not as

644
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: big as me, you know what i mean. He remind

645
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: me of a build for the kid who was there

646
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: did the saucer. Oh, Victor Cruise, Victor Cruish, but a

647
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 4: little shorter. So he's you know, he looks a little

648
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 4: you know, he looks a little more compact because he's shorter. Yeah, well,

649
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: no he's not. He's not up there with our weight.

650
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: He probably in a one hundred and seventy.

651
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: Some pounds pound.

652
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: See, I'm we was one eighty one nineties, you know

653
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: what I mean. Trust me.

654
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: So, but they do have weapons. Slaton's another guy you

655
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: mentioned Hyatt. They do have explosive weapons. But again I

656
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: go back to this idea that.

657
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: You can't get it to him because of the office

658
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: quiet I mean too, you know, they still trying to

659
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: find a way to get hired active, you know what

660
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: I mean, get them involved, and they bring them in

661
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: and try to hit the same week.

662
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: This is the week.

663
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: No, I'm just.

664
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Saying, not to say that, I'm saying that I would

665
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: want to see that, But that's how.

666
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 4: They're thinking, Like this is the time, you know, when

667
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 4: you put stuff on film, all we can do is

668
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: see if you're gonna correct yourself.

669
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: And we've put it on tape.

670
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: We've showed time and time again that we're gonna, you know,

671
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: get a guy too behind us. So we have to

672
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: be mindful that these guys are watching what we put

673
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: on tape and they gonna come at those, you know.

674
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's those are the guys offensive he

675
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley is another guy, very productive in the Bills game,

676
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: but before that long run in the fourth quarter if

677
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, averaging one point two yards of rush.

678
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: So he's a talented player behind a bat offense.

679
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: It ain't him, No, it's five guys in front.

680
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Of I don't think anyone's saying it's him.

681
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: That Sa Kwan basically was stopped in the backfield and

682
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: got four or five it. So it's like, you know,

683
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 4: don't let him feel constable enough that he can have one.

684
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: But he always has. He always has big games against US.

685
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: I think his last two hundred yard games were against

686
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: the Commanders.

687
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: Shut him down in that first game. The game he's

688
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: heads up and down down game.

689
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Yes, so what is it? It says first time in

690
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: Giants lost the game, Barkley had twenty two or more

691
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: carries despite missing half the six game did okay? Barkley's

692
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: two biggest rushing games in his career have both come

693
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: versus Washington career high one hundred and eighty nine yards

694
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Week fifteen, twenty nineteen, and back week twenty thirteen or

695
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Week thirteen of twenty eighteen, he rushed around to seven yeards.

696
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: So guys, that's what I meant. He has. His two

697
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: biggest productions came against US. But again, with a bad

698
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, you can't do anything.

699
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry. That's why I didn't play offense. It

700
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: depends on too many people to do food to come right.

701
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: It's the ultimate team space.

702
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: I like to control my own destiny, and on offense,

703
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: I could be the best wide receiver in the NFL,

704
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: but if my offensive lining blocking from my quarterback, I

705
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: have no chance to succeed.

706
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: So so what I'd say then? Okay, So that's that's

707
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: there them on the U on the offensive side of

708
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: the ball, very very talented, you know, maybe not a

709
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: true number one receiver, but got some pieces pieces. And

710
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's an interesting kind of thought experiment, is

711
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: when you look at early last year they found creative

712
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: ways to get saquon the ball in space like screens, bubbles,

713
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, as the wildcat guy, and you know, maybe

714
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: they can do something like that to kind of spark

715
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: the offense, open it up a little bit, create some

716
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: space for dayl Aaron Waller. But they're gonna have to

717
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: be really creative to get that done, I guess. Is

718
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: the thing I'd say is like beware of the bana

719
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: and the tailpipe. Have talented people. They have shown they

720
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: can do it with not a great offensive line, but

721
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: again not very likely defensively. Kevon Thibodeau. We mentioned Bobby Okareiki,

722
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: we mentioned der Lawrence. Very talented people, but you know,

723
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I think you got to kind of just be aware

724
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: of what they're breaking.

725
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Put a banana in the tailpipe, why not a pumpkin?

726
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: Like pumpkins are useless.

727
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: So it doesn't fit in the tailpipe. I don't think

728
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: they cut it up and put it in there this guy.

729
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: I love bananas. I don't think we should ruin bananas

730
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: by putting in the pipe.

731
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: So do you are you worried about this defense at all? Friend?

732
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I am, but not because of the personnel. You're worried

733
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: about the coordinator.

734
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: I'm worried about coordinator meets personnel, Like this is what

735
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 5: I'm worried about. Like, if they gonna stay in this

736
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: game with us, it's gonna be because of the defense,

737
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: not because of the office.

738
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: They going to hit to the office, protect the ball.

739
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: If we're gonna try to get y'all a short feel,

740
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: make the play when we present it. I'm afraid of

741
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: this defense. I think this defense is a lot better

742
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: than they.

743
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: Are on paper.

744
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: I think they play at a high level, especially when

745
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 5: they play against us. But I can't put any I

746
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 5: can't judge the past because Sam High would not quarter.

747
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: They say Sam was our quarterback and Eb wasn't our

748
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: quarter OC.

749
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

750
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: I'm a little scared of this of what the Giants

751
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: defense may present us. Just from seeing them over the years,

752
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: I think coming into this game, they do have us

753
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: nice what six weeks of film to watch and say, Okay,

754
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: this is what they've been doing. But I do also

755
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: believe also the playbooks so big, we still haven't tapped

756
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: into where we can go and getting so much you

757
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean, so much more stuff that he's

758
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: probably installing this week because it's a different opponent, you

759
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

760
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: And it's a guy we're gonna see twice too.

761
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: So that's the one thing that gives me a breath

762
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: of fresh air to say, hey, at least we have

763
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: something going for us when it comes to new OC,

764
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: new quarterback and Sam one of those guys like you

765
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: mess around and try to blitz or not. And he

766
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: see Terry out there one on one with Press Cottage,

767
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: he gonna tie you.

768
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: He gonna tell maybe it's a Logan game because if

769
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 5: you don't blitz, is uli your linebacker's blitzing.

770
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: So now the tight end thing's.

771
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 5: Matched up matchups with safeties, and we know Logan is huge,

772
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: his catch ratings is huge. So I'm thinking the only

773
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: way to stop them from blitzing is to go to

774
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: the tight end early enough.

775
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like they're the twenty eight, they're

776
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: like not a good defense. They're like twenty seventh in

777
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: total defense. Right, they're thirty first against the rush, they're

778
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: sixteenth against the pass. To give you some context on

779
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: those numbers as fans, Right, they're thirty first in the

780
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: league versus rushing because they've been playing from behind the quibbit, right,

781
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: so like teams are gonna run the ball more. Also,

782
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I think they've played some teams that are really dynamic offenses. Right,

783
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: they played buff played Buffalo Miami, They've played the forty

784
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: nine ers, right, maybe one of the best teams in football.

785
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: So I do think this defense is probably better than

786
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: what the numbers are on paper because they've got they've

787
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: had better competition. But again, it's to me, this is

788
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: the side of the football that is more scary, to

789
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: your point, Fred, Like, it's because they've got some dynamic

790
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: playmakers and they also it's there's a it's risk reward

791
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: and he's basically gambling every time he blitzes. And we've

792
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: seen that Sam in certain situations has a hard time

793
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: with the stuff that this defense right, right, right, right,

794
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: So that being said, all this conversation going on, Yeah,

795
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting a little tired.

796
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: No I'm not.

797
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: You're good, all right? Is this chilli in here, but

798
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. This is my time.

799
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: You give me a piece of pumpkin.

800
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: You don't like pumpkin? What are you talking about? All right?

801
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: So where are the commander's advantages in this game? Okay?

802
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do for this is we're gonna

803
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: say we're going to New York. We're excited. New York lights,

804
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Broadway lights. Yeah, what name of what player would you

805
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: like to see up there in those lights? Is the

806
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: guy that takes over the game or has the biggest

807
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: advantage in this game? I say, okay, why.

808
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: Just he's been disrupted all year long. Don't matter who

809
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: you have. And when you're facing against a team, when

810
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: two of your guards are giving up five sacks apiece

811
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: and they're tied for first and second in the league,

812
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 4: this is a game where you might see the Ron

813
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: Pain or Johnathan Allen our interior really have a chance

814
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: to really, you know, make some noise. You know this

815
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: this is one of those games when you have a

816
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: guy like Daniel Dredis, Daniel Jones or Tyrod Taylor.

817
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: I want to see them.

818
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: I want to see that pocket collapse, but I want

819
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 4: to see the inside. I want to see these guys

820
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: make it hard for the quarterback to step up because

821
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: now if he's trying to get outside, you got those

822
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 4: guys who can run, those guys with the long ums

823
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: that can you know, grab him and hold him down.

824
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: So dron pain. This is one of those games that

825
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: I want to see him in the lights.

826
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he'll be up against Marcus McKeith, who's a

827
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: second year player out in Carolina. He was undrafted, big guy,

828
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: physical guy, but again, like just the experienced the explosiveness

829
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: of pain. He should be getting after that. And he's

830
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: also the backup.

831
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: See Johann John dots yohar, I see Dots. We all

832
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 4: wait on the game from him, waiting on debt game.

833
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 4: I think this is debt game for him.

834
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: I think back home, back home.

835
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 4: So I just think it's deck game for him, and

836
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: not just catching balls.

837
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about yeck yards. I'm talking about targets.

838
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: I think coach bing is gonna say, you know what,

839
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: let me let me target him man times.

840
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: I gotta get his comforty is going. I got to

841
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: get him going.

842
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: And if they don't blitz a lot, the here's gonna

843
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: be a lot of one on ones out there.

844
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

845
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: I think with his right running skills, he ain't the

846
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: one you want to see in one on one.

847
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: I think he wins it battle.

848
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: Yep. It looks like he's been, you know, watching filming

849
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a funk. Hopefully this is an

850
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to get out of that. You mentioned

851
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: the right running. He's had productive games up there in

852
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: the past last year. I think, yeah, he did to

853
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: spend more. I think it's his game. Yeah. I hope so, man,

854
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: because it'd be great if he could kind of come

855
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: to life or imagine what that would do for this

856
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: offense would be great. And for me, I'm gonna go

857
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't get their name in the lights very often,

858
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: and that's Snick Gates. And it's only because of the

859
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: matchup with Dextra Lawrence, like he is the most strophic.

860
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: But you you didn't take it though.

861
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: I see Gates versus Lawrench.

862
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: But you could have said that now.

863
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: Versus Loan.

864
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll pick a different one Freda though, but

865
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Nick Gay versus Lawrence because I think he's the most

866
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: disruptive weapon on the defense right and and you got

867
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: to manage that. And so Nick Gates is gonna line up,

868
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: head up with him a lot. He's obviously gonna get

869
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: help from Sam, Cosmy, Sadik, Charles. They're all gonna have

870
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to work together to get that done. But I think

871
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: if you can keep him quiet, that defense becomes a

872
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: little bit more newter. That's better for us. But because

873
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I sold freds, you're gonna go in a different direction,

874
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: and that's Sam Howe, because it's really Sam Howe versus

875
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Wink Martindale. And if Sam has a good game and

876
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: we're getting his name up in the marquee, it's because

877
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: he's identified pressure as well. He's gotten the ball out

878
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: of his hands quickly. He's not taking a lot of sacks.

879
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: And again that starts in the week that starts on Wednesday,

880
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: with the first practice. That starts with you be getting

881
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: him ready. All those things definitely kind of compile to

882
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: make that done. So it's a team effort for sure.

883
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: But if his name's up there, we're probably winning this

884
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: football game.

885
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, right about that?

886
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: I agree with all Right, So now it's time for

887
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: everyone's favorite part of the show.

888
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: What is that?

889
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: If you have to guess, what do you think it is?

890
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: Fred Smooth Live.

891
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole show, all right, I mean

892
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: talk about a guy whos just full of himself.

893
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Somebody gotta be it's.

894
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: Game predictions, game predictions.

895
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: So and you pick gets the team like three times

896
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: this year?

897
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: I just I think only once, actually twice.

898
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be real.

899
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: So Danna so game score and we're doing this on Wednesday, guys,

900
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: so sometimes we're a little bit off in terms of field.

901
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: Got a better fiel, Yeah, a little a little over eager, right,

902
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: So Tanna what you got.

903
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: I just feel like somewhere around in the twenty four seventeen,

904
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stamp who's the one out of that

905
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: I didn't.

906
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: Do it last?

907
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: I know you didn't and it's a good luck.

908
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna leave it up there like that. I

909
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: mean work, No, Honestly.

910
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: The reason why I say that because, like I said before,

911
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm we are the company man. We could sit here

912
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: and say Command win every week. Is the team that

913
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: we've had problems with one percent. So these guys have

914
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: to show this another week. They have to go out

915
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: there and show me who you are and beat their

916
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 4: chest a little big and show me that they really

917
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: who they say they are. You know what I mean,

918
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 4: I feel like we're capable of beating any anybody. I'm

919
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: always ride with us. Yeah, just know that my heart

920
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: is always going to bleed what they bleed. But I

921
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: ain't from Missouri, but they got to show me.

922
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up because one of

923
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: the things about this team it's been since I've covered

924
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: the team is they tend to be a little up

925
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: and down depending on the opponent. Can they be up

926
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: for a team that they are better than. Can they

927
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: play better than the correct as opposed to kind of

928
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: this up ebb and flow that's stepping up and down.

929
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: Can they approach this week with the same focus they

930
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: had last week? And I think if they can, they

931
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: should win this game. There are more talented roster top

932
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: to bottom, right are the Giants and NFL football team?

933
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: Is this going to be a tough game? Do we

934
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: have tough matchups with them? One percent? But top to

935
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: bottom we're better. We should win. Yeah, if we're prepped

936
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: and ready to go up properly. Yeah. So what's your

937
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: What my score is? I like your score a lot, Tanner,

938
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: but I don't want to steal your score, So I'm

939
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna say still all the time. I'm gonna say twenty

940
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty three to fourteen, I think is what

941
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I think this defense is gonna be

942
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: at all. It's different. Price is right, A little bit right, yeah,

943
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: a little under. I like to score. I didn't want

944
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: to take it exactly. So I think it's gonna be

945
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: a to score game.

946
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 5: Feeling the energy in the building this week, it don't

947
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 5: feel like the players are patting themself on the back

948
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: from the Atlanta win.

949
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that like that. I enjoyed that.

950
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: And it's like they got their focus here of this

951
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: the team that stopped us from going to the playoffs

952
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: last year.

953
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: This is the team we had to beat twice.

954
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: You should be given the pregame speech. Man, I'm getting

955
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: excited this listening.

956
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 5: We have to understand we need to make a we

957
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 5: need to send a message with this game.

958
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: Like so, I'm going to go thirty to fifteen. Now.

959
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: To get that fifteen, we probably got to give up

960
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: a safety. I'm fired, probably gonna beat triple though getting

961
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: the safe. But what I'm saying.

962
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: Is thirty to fifteen, decisive win.

963
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: Lead from the door.

964
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: They're behind most of the game playing ketchup with a

965
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 5: quarterback Tyrod Taylor Daniel Jones. The secondary shows up again

966
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: takes the battle away three times.

967
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: If this, if the Commanders get out to a little

968
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: bit of a lead, the Giants are gonna have a really.

969
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: Hard time kitchen. Yeah, but they're not built to catch up.

970
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: But if the game flow stays even, yeah, it's kind

971
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: of like Atlanta. If the game flows even, they're gonna

972
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: be at the entire time a spark.

973
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: Somebody got to make a play.

974
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, that was a really nice really I liked.

975
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I was fired up about already.

976
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: I mean, fifteen, that's well man.

977
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously we're hoping for a win. But you know,

978
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: it's the New York Giants, so you never know what's

979
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen.

980
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: Yep, But I know why the Giants and name the Giants? No,

981
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: you go, what do you think?

982
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: I thought it was just kinda people like, kind of

983
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: a cool his.

984
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: Name for the giant buildings, the skyscrapers.

985
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Tanna leave me out, Jason? You got your phone with him?

986
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Ya got? There are certain things that I cannot tolerate,

987
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's complete. Who were.

988
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: Ready to New York Giants get their name from here

989
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: we go.

990
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't think the mobile working.

991
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: Syriah was like, no, thank you, hold on, gave it

992
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: to me, just.

993
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: Put it up.

994
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 5: I have no solid gave y'all gotta understand, man, it's

995
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 5: for the Giant Buildings, all right?

996
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: What we got ten?

997
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: All right?

998
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: Nobody can find it.

999
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: The team was named after the National League Baseball Giants,

1000
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: who were a long time favorite of the New York

1001
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: At the time, baseball was the keen professional sports, so

1002
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 4: owner Tim Marrow wanted the same name recognition and hopes

1003
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: that fans.

1004
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: Would support their clubs.

1005
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's around. If you like this show, make sure

1006
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: you like to subscribe Freddy, you're such a liar Giant Buildings.

1007
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: If you guys like this podcast, make sure you check

1008
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: out our podcast network with Get Loud as one of

1009
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: our favorite programs with Fred. What are you talking about

1010
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: this week? Fred?

1011
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: Everything?

1012
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: Everything? Yeah, last week was bubbles. Whatever it is this

1013
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: week we'll figure it out. Next Man Up is another

1014
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: podcast where he gets inside access with this guy. This

1015
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: week it's Shamon Davis gets to know the man behind

1016
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: the helmet. Love that show players Club Tanna. That's one

1017
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: of your favorites you got this week? Oh, that'll be

1018
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: awesome man. He's playing awesome man. I can't wait to

1019
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: hear what that's all about. And we got our command

1020
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: Center special from New York be Mitch and Santana in

1021
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: New York breaking down the game. Tanna, what are you

1022
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: gonna be doing up.

1023
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: There New York City? Your dreams is?

1024
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 5: It always makes you check them all out, bod Drop,

1025
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: Float Rattle.

1026
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and

1027
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect

1028
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any

1029
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: of their representatives.