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Speaker 4: The house, so I grabbed it.
Speaker 2: All right, looks nice. Dylan in the back row, Marvin
Speaker 2: upfront with Paul yours truly, and of course the backroom
Speaker 2: guys as well. We'll get phone calls. Tyler sitting by
Speaker 2: age seven to seven three DP show the game tonight
Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Cardinals. This is really an extension
Speaker 2: of the Hall of Fame weekend. There is a game
Speaker 2: going on, but that will probably be secondary. In the background.
Speaker 2: It'll be about the Hall of famers who were there
Speaker 2: on the sidelines at the festivities. Maybe somebody in the
Speaker 2: booth and you're gonna be noticing two teams playing. Maybe
Speaker 2: you get a chance to see somebody, and this is
Speaker 2: about can you make the roster. Maybe it's a veteran
Speaker 2: trying to hold on for a roster spot. Jeremiah Love
Speaker 2: is not going to play in the game, which I understand,
Speaker 2: but the opportunity having these preseason games is really about
Speaker 2: trying to make a roster, so there will be people
Speaker 2: playing hard tonight may not be playing well, but preseason
Speaker 2: football football is back ish.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Poll question for Hour one is going to be what Dylan, Well.
Speaker 4: We can start there, Dan, will you be watching the
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game? Yes? No, or I would if
Speaker 4: it were different teams.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna watch, but it'll probably be background where
Speaker 2: if I hear something, where the announcers say something and
Speaker 2: then you look up and you go, oh okay. But
Speaker 2: for the most part, it'll be just nice to see
Speaker 2: something different on the screen instead of going to the
Speaker 2: archives for NFL Network and watching a game that took place,
Speaker 2: you know, four postseasons ago. Any other pole questions first hour, Yeah,
Speaker 2: PAULI sent this one over.
Speaker 6: If you could have season tickets for your team in
Speaker 6: any sport MLB, NHL, NBA, or NFL, which.
Speaker 2: Would you pick HM season tickets.
Speaker 6: Or Akron because you make get a chance to call
Speaker 6: the first play against the Robert Morris.
Speaker 2: Akron sold out all their suites this year, and I
Speaker 2: think that's first time that's ever happened for their football program.
Speaker 2: This contest that they're running is working good. You got
Speaker 2: to draw up money because you're a mid major and
Speaker 2: even a low mid major. How much money can you generate?
Speaker 2: And who were you competing with other teams in the
Speaker 2: Mid American Conference? But Akron had a contest where Hey,
Speaker 2: the winner gets to help script the first drive of
Speaker 2: the season against Robert Morris.
Speaker 7: Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 8: That was announced by Akron football on Twitter yesterday. You
Speaker 8: could try to be the offensive coordinator for a drive.
Speaker 8: It got nineteen million views on Twitter, nineteen million more
Speaker 8: than any post in the history of Akron football.
Speaker 2: You could combine all of Akron football and they've never
Speaker 2: had nineteen million. Good for them. This is what you
Speaker 2: have to do because football landscape has changed dramatically. You
Speaker 2: are basically going to be a feeder school for some
Speaker 2: of these other programs. If you get somebody good enough
Speaker 2: that is on their radar at Alabama or Michigan, they're
Speaker 2: just going to come in and pluck them away. This
Speaker 2: is why I'd love to have you almost a transfer
Speaker 2: fee that you have in soccer. Hey, you want that guy,
Speaker 2: you have to get fifty thousand dollars to the university.
Speaker 2: You're taking him from so you don't leave the cupboard bear,
Speaker 2: or you help them and maybe their athletic department. But
Speaker 2: I think you got to still if you're all going
Speaker 2: to be under the NCAA umbrella, then I think you
Speaker 2: have to make sure that you're helping these other schools
Speaker 2: that will be helping you bring talent in. All right,
Speaker 2: So Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer on the Browns quarterbacking
Speaker 2: situation where it feels like maybe it really is a
Speaker 2: quarterback controversy or they're actually competing with each other to
Speaker 2: be the starting quarterback. Lewis Riddick will stop by as well.
Speaker 2: He covers both college and the NFL and one of
Speaker 2: the smartest players I've ever been around, Marshall Falk will
Speaker 2: join us. In the final hour of the program. We
Speaker 2: have a new leader in the clubhouse for nationally MVP,
Speaker 2: Pete crow Armstrong. Now I've been following it. I've been
Speaker 2: updating you usually once a week, just to say the
Speaker 2: odds are starting to get interesting because if show Ayutani
Speaker 2: plays in pitches, he's going to win or be favored
Speaker 2: for every MVP. Well, it's not able to pitch, and
Speaker 2: his offensive numbers are very good, but Pete crow Armstrong
Speaker 2: hit two homers yesterday Otani hit two homers, Like it
Speaker 2: was fun to watch that. Uh, it'd been great if
Speaker 2: Otani was on the mound, that would have been fun.
Speaker 2: Here's Pete crow Armstrong of the Cubs on MVP possibilities.
Speaker 9: That would be crazy to say that I don't want
Speaker 9: to win an MVP. But if we're talking about having
Speaker 9: priorities straight, like I think mine are pretty straight, it's
Speaker 9: it's not it's not on the forefront of my mind.
Speaker 9: It's it's it's fun to joke about it, and it's
Speaker 9: fun to acknowledge, and it's I think it's it's absolutely
Speaker 9: okay to pay attention to. But it's again, it's not
Speaker 9: like following me up to the plate. And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 9: I think if you guys want to talk about all this,
Speaker 9: uh this back and forth, like I really should go
Speaker 9: get in the lab and start pitching, But I really should.
Speaker 2: He's a great center fielder as well, and you'll get
Speaker 2: the argument of well o t pitches that you know,
Speaker 2: yes he does, but he's not able to pitch now
Speaker 2: And Pete crow Armstrong for a playoff team and you
Speaker 2: hit a couple of home runs like this is one
Speaker 2: of those Heisman moments where you needed one of these
Speaker 2: breakout games that the national media talked about this, not
Speaker 2: just the local but Pete crow Armstrong a couple of
Speaker 2: home runs. Otani hit a couple of home runs, and
Speaker 2: PCA is now past Otani and is the favorite for
Speaker 2: the National League MVP. Bigger picture here, the Cubs swept
Speaker 2: the Dodgers in a three game series. The Dodgers have
Speaker 2: lost six in a row. This is the second losing
Speaker 2: streak of six or more games in the last seven years.
Speaker 2: They had a seven game losing streak back in twenty
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Speaker 2: other poll questions that you're thinking about Dylan for the
Speaker 2: first hour.
Speaker 4: Well we can go with that too, Dan.
Speaker 6: If you can pick one today for the NL MVP show,
Speaker 6: Atani or Pete Kerr Armstrong, who are you taking?
Speaker 4: Since they're well basically even doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take PCA. I thought that, you know,
Speaker 2: That's why I kept mentioning that this was real. This
Speaker 2: was not something like, man, let's create something here. This
Speaker 2: this actually happened in real time. And you know, I
Speaker 2: look at Otani and there's some stats that I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily subscribe to, but I know, like war that's a
Speaker 2: big deal. Wins against replacement, so Otani is six point four,
Speaker 2: PCA is seven point three. That's a big margin there,
Speaker 2: you know. Home run wise, Otani with twenty six, with
Speaker 2: seventy RBIs batting average is two ninety seven. He's not
Speaker 2: stealing bases. But then I don't want him stealing bases.
Speaker 2: I thought that that was just a one off. Since
Speaker 2: he wasn't going to be pitching, then there's no need
Speaker 2: for him to be stealing bases. Twenty six, home run,
Speaker 2: sixty nine RBIs for PCA, he's going to go thirty
Speaker 2: thirty this year. His batting average, I mean their numbers
Speaker 2: are kind of similar. PCA is a great outfielder, basically
Speaker 2: the same kind of home run RBI numbers. You throw
Speaker 2: in the stolen bases. He's got twenty eight, so to
Speaker 2: go thirty thirty and you're making the playoffs. And let's
Speaker 2: not kid anybody. They love a new story, and this
Speaker 2: is a new story, and that does factor in whether
Speaker 2: people are going to admit to it or not. It
Speaker 2: will play a role.
Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin, get out of my head, because I was
Speaker 10: just thinking about Otani. This might be reminiscent of Michael
Speaker 10: Jordan in the nineties where Charles Barkley had a great season, like,
Speaker 10: you know what, we got to do something different, or
Speaker 10: cal Malone in ninety seven, we got to do something different,
Speaker 10: We got to vote for somebody else. It's a new story.
Speaker 10: Maybe Otani fatigue. They found just a little bit of
Speaker 10: the chink in the armor where they're like, he's not
Speaker 10: pitching as much as he once was. He's just hitting,
Speaker 10: so let's give it to somebody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I do factor that in. There
Speaker 2: is voter fatigue. I do believe that. I think that's
Speaker 2: happened before with MVP honors, whatever the honor might be.
Speaker 2: But this is a case of Pca is playing great
Speaker 2: baseball and he's playing in a big market. He's playing
Speaker 2: for a team where you can watch their games, and
Speaker 2: you go head to head with Otani and you hit
Speaker 2: a couple of home runs. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you got a little bit of momentum here. Now, can
Speaker 2: O'tani get back on the mound. If he does get
Speaker 2: back on the mound, those odds may change, but if
Speaker 2: I'm the Dodgers, I don't want him back on the mound.
Speaker 2: At least I hope that I don't need him now.
Speaker 2: It might get to September where you want to give
Speaker 2: him some innings if you can. But this is why
Speaker 2: I think they went out and got Schooble. They needed
Speaker 2: some insurance here that Show might not be able to
Speaker 2: pitch certainly the rest of the regular season, or maybe
Speaker 2: they don't want him to pitch Chris, and Syracuse leads
Speaker 2: us off. Good morning, Chris. What do you have for
Speaker 2: me today?
Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, Thanks as always, Dan Heay. Two things
Speaker 7: for you, Dan off your very interesting interview with Shoheo,
Speaker 7: Tiny's interpreter's bookie. You said yesterday and been saying it
Speaker 7: all along, whether you go to the bank in person
Speaker 7: or online, any deposit withdrawal over six hundred dollars, they're
Speaker 7: all over you. How could show Hey not know to
Speaker 7: the extent of what he knew and his involvement will
Speaker 7: never know. But I think Major League Baseball got out
Speaker 7: in front of this one fast to ensure its biggest
Speaker 7: name catches no shrapnel at all. And also kind of
Speaker 7: what you said a lot of people are saying the
Speaker 7: Dodgers pick up of Derek Scoobel was just pinally not
Speaker 7: more talent to a team that's already was going to
Speaker 7: win the third World Series no matter what. But with
Speaker 7: all the injuries the Dodgers have pitching wise, position players,
Speaker 7: and the uncertainty of when they'll be back, and also
Speaker 7: some of its stars like Mookie Brebats have been underachieving.
Speaker 7: They're playing awful baseball right now too, and the Dodgers
Speaker 7: saw this move. I think of getting Schoolble as a
Speaker 7: necessity to have a shot at another title, and I
Speaker 7: give them credit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I think that they had the
Speaker 2: riches to be able to send a Detroit, but I
Speaker 2: think they truly needed Trek Scuble. Now you've got some
Speaker 2: high priced pitchers, big names on that staff, but you've
Speaker 2: got to get everybody healthy in time. But I do
Speaker 2: think that that's interesting when you look at the Dodgers
Speaker 2: that they did something and everybody was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is going to lead to a lockout. I think we're
Speaker 2: going to have a lockout no matter what.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we look back on this and
Speaker 2: then we go, oh, well, that's the reason why or
Speaker 2: that was the final straw that we're going to have
Speaker 2: a lockout. I do think that, But if I'm the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to win. That's all I care about. And
Speaker 2: as far as the sho heeo Tani interpreter, the bookie,
Speaker 2: I had my bank get a hold of me last
Speaker 2: week because they thought that somebody had written a check
Speaker 2: and they said the penmanship is not your penmanship. Well,
Speaker 2: I had signed like fifteen of those checks that the
Speaker 2: big german gives me and the bank said that's not
Speaker 2: your signature, and I said, I'll come down there and
Speaker 2: look at it. So that's just a check that was
Speaker 2: for a couple of thousand dollars. I just can't imagine
Speaker 2: that you're taking out millions of dollars. And do you
Speaker 2: have somebody, a business manager who's monitoring the bank would
Speaker 2: send you a note to say, hey, by the way,
Speaker 2: four million dollars was taken out. Do you have a
Speaker 2: bank you know? Do you have a manager, a business
Speaker 2: manager who sees all of this.
Speaker 8: Yes, Paulie, it's not a mysterious twenty dollars DoorDash charge.
Speaker 8: It's four million dollars to an offshore account.
Speaker 2: Once again. Baseball, Wrap that up. The FBI, wrap that up.
Speaker 2: We're still dealing with Kawhi Leonard and they job that
Speaker 2: he did not show up for that he got paid
Speaker 2: for allegedly, and that's going on eleven months now. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. Joe Thomas Brown's Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: will join us from Canton for the festivities this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Joe Thomas went into the Hall of Fame a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. Hall of Fame farms owned by Joe Thomas,
Speaker 2: so he brought in is a trailer from Wisconsin to
Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame fan Fest and you're
Speaker 2: selling meat out of your Are you in your trailer? Now?
Speaker 2: Are you in your home?
Speaker 11: It'd be nice if my trailer was this sweet. No,
Speaker 11: I'm in my condo in Westlake. I was at Browns
Speaker 11: practice yesterday and after the show, I'm heading right down.
Speaker 5: They're going to start flipping burgers and cooking.
Speaker 11: Steaks and get in our mobile butcher shop right there
Speaker 11: in FanFest, right to the next to the main stage.
Speaker 2: Where is your Hall of Fame jacket right now?
Speaker 11: Unfortunately it is crumpled up into my suitcase because I'm
Speaker 11: about to jump in my car and drive down the Captain.
Speaker 5: But I can throw it on if you want it.
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, would you go get it?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, no, probably it would be like a minute.
Speaker 5: Is that cool?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see it and the fires all
Speaker 2: crumpled up. You'd think that he would hang it though, right, Pauline, you.
Speaker 8: Would think you'd hang it in the back of one
Speaker 8: of those little things in the back seat of your car.
Speaker 2: Right, I would think. So it's a Paul, I don't think. Well,
Speaker 2: you know what, the material that those things are made
Speaker 2: out of, they might not wrinkle. Yeah, paul quick game.
Speaker 8: What size is Joe Thomas's Hall of Fame jacket?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'm gonna go fifty too long?
Speaker 8: Got that's my guess, too, fifty too long?
Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, he probably had to go out to his car,
Speaker 2: open up the trunk and get his Hall of Fame jacket.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dylan, I feel like he would be fifty two
Speaker 6: in his playing days.
Speaker 4: Now he's crazy. I'm going I'm going forty six.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not much larger than what I would have.
Speaker 2: I think I'm a forty three long fifty. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Ton Marvin, you got you gotta guess here. I like
Speaker 2: that we have Joe Thomas on. I just sent him.
Speaker 2: I sent him out to this car, but he did
Speaker 2: offer it up. I thought, Okay, where the hell is
Speaker 2: your suitcase? Joe?
Speaker 7: Mary? Wow?
Speaker 2: I like that he looks.
Speaker 5: Good, much better, much better.
Speaker 2: Look Okay, why is it crumpled up in your suitcase.
Speaker 11: Well, because it was packed away because right after the show,
Speaker 11: I got a drive down the canton, so it was uh,
Speaker 11: it was a little bit better than crumpled, but it
Speaker 11: was folded up.
Speaker 5: In the suitcase.
Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, we guessed the size of your jacket, so
Speaker 2: you give us the dimensions of your Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: jacket custom.
Speaker 11: I think it's like something in forty eight extra long,
Speaker 11: something like that.
Speaker 5: Then the athletic cut.
Speaker 2: Okay, forty eight extra. But if this was when you
Speaker 2: were playing.
Speaker 5: Oh god, I think I was a fifty four extra
Speaker 5: wide or super long. But I don't know. Pretty much.
Speaker 5: All my clothes just get tailored.
Speaker 11: It's nothing that ever comes off the wreck, so I
Speaker 11: don't even really know what my sizes are.
Speaker 5: So you lay that custom tailored. I mean, is there
Speaker 5: like sides?
Speaker 2: I love it, people ask to wear it.
Speaker 11: They do, Yeah, I mean it's it's a really cool
Speaker 11: thing that in the ring. I know, like when you
Speaker 11: get that ring, everybody wants to be able to put
Speaker 11: that on kind of like a super Bowl ring, be
Speaker 11: able to take a picture of it with their buddies.
Speaker 2: What Hall of Famer did you nerd out over meeting.
Speaker 5: So it's actually Walter Jones, and he was the guy
Speaker 5: that gave me my knock.
Speaker 11: He was one of my heroes when I was in
Speaker 11: high school, and then I watched him at time in
Speaker 11: college tried to take some of the things that he
Speaker 11: did well. Of course, he's a different human than me.
Speaker 11: It was a lot bigger, stronger, faster than I was.
Speaker 11: But still you can learn a lot by watching the
Speaker 11: greats that came before you.
Speaker 2: Larry Allen was I don't know who was larger Walter Larry.
Speaker 2: Larry Allen seemed like he was the biggest offensive lineman
Speaker 2: I'd ever seen.
Speaker 5: He was probably the widest and certainly the strongest.
Speaker 2: And you know, you always hear those stories that guys
Speaker 2: would get the Larry Allen flu Did you think that
Speaker 2: that was real? Did anybody Did you feel like anybody
Speaker 2: ducked you?
Speaker 11: They didn't duck me, because I think if anything, they
Speaker 11: would just go play on the other side with Larry
Speaker 11: though he was trying.
Speaker 5: To hurt people. I mean, Larry like eight pound bench.
Speaker 11: Press, so they were trying to preserve their careers by
Speaker 11: not going against Larry hung because they didn't want.
Speaker 4: To be injured.
Speaker 2: Yes, who was the best offensive lineman today in your opinion?
Speaker 5: Oh? You you know, I'll still go with Lane Johnson.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a guy that's been.
Speaker 11: Doing it at the highest level for so long consistency.
Speaker 11: He's been leading the Eagles offensive line the best offensive
Speaker 11: line in football for a very long time. And I
Speaker 11: still think even though he's getting up there in age,
Speaker 11: he is playing at the top of the game.
Speaker 2: When rookies come in, I don't and you've seen probably
Speaker 2: all shape, sizes, varieties, But do you have to know
Speaker 2: your place or you want to come in and exude
Speaker 2: some confidence.
Speaker 11: I think you have to exude confidence, but you have
Speaker 11: to do it quietly. I always tell rookies eyes open,
Speaker 11: ears open, mouth shut. We don't want to hear from
Speaker 11: you unless you're asking a question right now.
Speaker 2: The is it a quarterback competition with the Browns? And
Speaker 2: is that a good thing If it's a quarterback confidence
Speaker 2: or controversy.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's never a good thing. That means you haven't
Speaker 11: figured out because there's no clear answer. Nobody wants a
Speaker 11: quarterback controvery your conversation. But hey, we're the Browns. That's
Speaker 11: the situation we've been in for a couple decades, so
Speaker 11: you got to make the most of it, and hopefully
Speaker 11: competition between those two guys brings out the best in
Speaker 11: one of them, and they build confidence in the locker
Speaker 11: room and they build a connection with somebody and becomes
Speaker 11: obvious who the starter should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if i'm the Browns, like, do you want to
Speaker 2: stunt the growth of Shadoor Sanders or do you say,
Speaker 2: we're paying forty million dollars for Deshaun Watson. Let's give
Speaker 2: him a chance to actually earn this and then if not,
Speaker 2: then shaud or Sanders will be our quarterback moving forward.
Speaker 11: That's what they've said. I mean, it's not the best
Speaker 11: spot in the world to say, like, hey, we paid
Speaker 11: all this money for John Watson. He hasn't really been good,
Speaker 11: but well we got all the sun costs, we might
Speaker 11: as well give him a shot.
Speaker 2: But it feels like that's the missing piece. Now that's
Speaker 2: a big missing piece. But it feels like the Browns
Speaker 2: they're doing some good things, at least on the outside
Speaker 2: looking in. There are some positives, So tell us your
Speaker 2: thoughts on those positives and how good the Browns can
Speaker 2: be this year.
Speaker 11: Well, they've had a difficult time with weapons on offense
Speaker 11: for a while.
Speaker 5: I think the run game's been good.
Speaker 11: They've had okay at best passing game, and some of
Speaker 11: that was quarterback play, but some of that was receiver play.
Speaker 11: And I would say this year the reason for optimism
Speaker 11: for Browns fans is the two great receivers that they
Speaker 11: got in the draft, Casey Concepcion and Benzel Boston, who
Speaker 11: have looked incredible in training camp so far, so hopefully
Speaker 11: taking some of the load and the pressure off that
Speaker 11: quarterback position. Rebuilt offensive line, but you still have Quinn
Speaker 11: Shawn Judkins running the football, so you hope, hey, we
Speaker 11: can get really good in the run game, be multi dimensional,
Speaker 11: to be able to still throw the football because we've
Speaker 11: got three quality receivers out there who.
Speaker 5: Can get open, and then it's not so much on
Speaker 5: the quarterback to be able to make everything happen.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Hall of Famer Joe Thomas Man. He's
Speaker 2: got meet at the Hall of Fame fan fest. He'll
Speaker 2: bring his mobile butcher shop. You're gonna be cooking. You're
Speaker 2: gonna actually be cooking in your mobile butcher shop.
Speaker 11: That's right, we're thawing out Hall of Fame Waggy Steaks
Speaker 11: right now so people buy their steak. We got a grill,
Speaker 11: We've got a couple local chefs, Ann's Barbecue from Youngstown.
Speaker 11: We've got mister Briskett from the Cleveland area. They're cooking
Speaker 11: up all sorts of Hall of Fame Waggi samples. We've
Speaker 11: got our Hall of Fame beef stix and jerky and
Speaker 11: all the frozen fresh steaks to be able to purchase.
Speaker 5: And we've got some smash Burgers. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: back there working today.
Speaker 2: Dan, would you have traded Miles Garrett?
Speaker 11: I think the trade is going to turn out to
Speaker 11: be one that the Browns look back on favorably. It's
Speaker 11: it's painful when you lose the best defensive player in history,
Speaker 11: but I think when you look at the age that
Speaker 11: he's at where the Browns are specifically, this is a rebuild.
Speaker 11: You got a new quarterback, you got a new coach,
Speaker 11: You've got a couple first round draft choices next year
Speaker 11: to potentially find a quarterback if you don't think one
Speaker 11: of these.
Speaker 5: Two guys can be the guy of the future.
Speaker 11: And you get Jared Verse, who has been wrecking training
Speaker 11: camp so far, who's a young player.
Speaker 5: He's a tremendous leader.
Speaker 11: He's got incredible I mean, he's a pro bowler out
Speaker 11: there at defensive end. Plus you picked up two first
Speaker 11: round draft choices and a third round pick for Miles.
Speaker 11: I think it was the right trade for the right
Speaker 11: time for the Browns, But so same thing for the Rams,
Speaker 11: and I think that's why it was a good trade
Speaker 11: because they're in win today mode. We're in maybe win today,
Speaker 11: but let's hope we can build to win tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Would you rather try to block Miles Garrett or Aaron Donald?
Speaker 11: Good luck if Aaron Donald comes back, because I would
Speaker 11: rather block either of them. Maybe pull one of those
Speaker 11: sick days like they did with Larry Allen.
Speaker 2: But what's the difference in blocking an edge rusher built
Speaker 2: like Miles Garrett or somebody coming up the middle with
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's totally different, right.
Speaker 11: Aaron's game is he's short, squatty, incredibly powerful and quick.
Speaker 11: So he gets up into your frame, he gets under
Speaker 11: your pads. In the leverage that he has just rocks
Speaker 11: people back. Even a guy like Larry Allam, as big
Speaker 11: and strong as he was, because of Aaron's power and
Speaker 11: how he's so compact, he can just get up inside
Speaker 11: you and push you backwards.
Speaker 5: Whereas Miles, he wins because he bends on the edge.
Speaker 11: Right, he can bend his ankles, his knees, his hips,
Speaker 11: he can turn the corner.
Speaker 5: He's got the best get off in football.
Speaker 11: And he also is super powerful and strong, so he
Speaker 11: can convert to a bull rush quickly. But I would
Speaker 11: say Miles is more speed, distance, mobility, ability to bend,
Speaker 11: and Aaron is squatty, compact, powerful, quick first step.
Speaker 2: It seems like teams are now looking, Yes, their edge rushers,
Speaker 2: they're important, but that guy in the middle we're seeing
Speaker 2: it feels like maybe there's a little more resurgence here
Speaker 2: with You need to have that guy up the middle
Speaker 2: because it feels like he's going to disrupt the offense
Speaker 2: far more than the edge rusher will.
Speaker 11: From a pass protection standpoint, there's a lot more you
Speaker 11: can do with a defensive end that's a problem.
Speaker 5: You can leave a tight end in there, you can
Speaker 5: ship them with a receiver. You can even have a quarterback.
Speaker 11: I mean, we saw Brady do it for decades, right,
Speaker 11: He didn't really always have a great edge protection, but
Speaker 11: he was able to step up in the pocket because
Speaker 11: the middle of the pocket was firm. When you got
Speaker 11: a problem in the middle, there's really not a whole
Speaker 11: lot you can do other than trying to run the
Speaker 11: quarterback and move them out of the pocket. But a
Speaker 11: lot of quarterbacks and offenses don't want to do that.
Speaker 11: They don't want to move the launch point consistently like that.
Speaker 11: So blocking a guy like Aaron Donald, if he's splitting
Speaker 11: double teams constantly, becomes really difficult because you don't have
Speaker 11: any other options.
Speaker 2: Who wins the division? Steelers, Ravens, Bengals.
Speaker 11: Not even throwing the Browns out there, all right, Well
Speaker 11: assume the Browns.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about a courtisy and the Browns and the Browns.
Speaker 5: Well, if you give me those options, I'm going to
Speaker 5: go with the Ravens.
Speaker 11: Actually, I think the Ravens have a nice bounce back season,
Speaker 11: and I know it seems like Lamar Jackson and the
Speaker 11: Ravens outfit, even going back to when I was there,
Speaker 11: they always play the best when the backs against the wall.
Speaker 11: People start doubting him a little bit, and I think
Speaker 11: that's right where they are right now.
Speaker 2: Would you rather block for a pocket passer or a scrambler.
Speaker 11: I'd rather block for a pocket passer because then I
Speaker 11: know exactly where he is and I know what I
Speaker 11: need to do on that play. Scramblers are great because
Speaker 11: if you get beat, they can still make you right
Speaker 11: and avoid the sack and get out and throw touchdowns
Speaker 11: and then you're not the goat, but like the goat
Speaker 11: in the bad sense. But it's difficult because you just
Speaker 11: never know where he's going to be, and so it's
Speaker 11: much more of a guessing game.
Speaker 2: Save travels there, the short travel from Cleveland, Ducanton, and
Speaker 2: good luck with the Hall of Fame farms and your
Speaker 2: mobile butcher shop and whipping up a batch for everybody there.
Speaker 2: And ken great to see you, great go.
Speaker 5: Great to see it, and I can't wait to see
Speaker 5: you in person. I'll give you another Hall of Fame
Speaker 5: beefstick like last time. It's another chance to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and his farm, Hall of Fame Farm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he sent us some some beef jerky. Last time tasted good,
Speaker 2: good stuff. Let's see update the poll results if you
Speaker 2: can so far, Dylan, yep.
Speaker 4: Will you be watching the Hall of Fame game tonight? Yes?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Or would if it were different? Teams? Fifty eight percent
Speaker 4: say no, oh yeah, right.
Speaker 6: If you could have season tickets for your team in
Speaker 6: any sport, are you picking MLB, NHL, NBA or NFL?
Speaker 6: Kind of surprisingly, fifty two percent say NFL. But I
Speaker 6: would contend you get a lot more games if you
Speaker 6: take say baseball.
Speaker 2: You do, But then do you want to go to
Speaker 2: that many games football? I can go to eight or
Speaker 2: nine ten postseason. That's why if you're owning a team,
Speaker 2: like how often do you have to go to a
Speaker 2: baseball game to see your team? And imagine if your
Speaker 2: team isn't any good, but it's your team and you
Speaker 2: gotta go. That's a lot of baseball games. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of hockey games, a lot of NBA games.
Speaker 7: To go.
Speaker 2: Feels like, all right, maybe my NFL team is not
Speaker 2: very good, but I only have to go out there
Speaker 2: like nine or ten times. Instead of I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: on display, they're gonna cut away to me, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be there having something to drink or a hot dog
Speaker 2: or popcorn. And there's the owner of the Oakland A's,
Speaker 2: Sacramento as Vegas A's. But I would I would probably
Speaker 2: go to NFL games because if we're winning it's great
Speaker 2: if we're losing, I only have to go to eight
Speaker 2: or nine of these, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say I would take baseball, But
Speaker 6: actually the idea of having met season tickets right now
Speaker 6: sounds like more of a burden than anything.
Speaker 2: But imagine if you're Steve Cohen, you spent you know, billions,
Speaker 2: and you're you should go to the game, or do
Speaker 2: you have to go to the game. Do you want
Speaker 2: to go to the game? That'd be tough. And then
Speaker 2: there's gonna be booze when you know they see that
Speaker 2: you're there and you're up in your suite. I don't
Speaker 2: know that's where you draw the blinds. You know, you're
Speaker 2: just like, hey, you know what, I'm just gonna going
Speaker 2: to peek peek out through the window. I remember the
Speaker 2: old Yankee Stadium that when you went up to the
Speaker 2: press box, George Steinbrenner's office was right there, and you know,
Speaker 2: big picture window, but you know, the shades were usually closed,
Speaker 2: but if it was open, it was always interesting to
Speaker 2: see who was in there and if they were getting
Speaker 2: yelled at. Yes, Tod.
Speaker 3: I like when the owner of GM and their family,
Speaker 3: they're in the suite and they can peak at one
Speaker 3: of the monitors in the suite and they could see
Speaker 3: that the camera's on them, but the network and the
Speaker 3: team's not doing well. They got a look of like,
Speaker 3: can you please stop putting the camera?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, eating nachos or something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paulie, I will say from a season's ticket standpoint,
Speaker 8: hockey would be really attractive. You get in the building,
Speaker 8: it's about two hours and twenty minutes you're out. You
Speaker 8: kind of know how long it's going to be. Hockey
Speaker 8: in person really elevates everything.
Speaker 2: Well, I might take if I could get season tickets
Speaker 2: to the premier league that you know that that's two hours.
Speaker 2: The atmosphere is great college college football sec you know,
Speaker 2: and you know you're going to different places that might
Speaker 2: be fun or different players are going to be coming
Speaker 2: in on your pitch.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dylan, does it change your answer where the tickets
Speaker 6: happen to be? Like what's the most ideal? Like is
Speaker 6: it tickets on the glass for hockey, behind home plate
Speaker 6: for baseball?
Speaker 4: Fifty yard line for football?
Speaker 2: How about a suite?
Speaker 6: But day in Sweet's great? But I think from a
Speaker 6: viewing standpoint, and that also depends too. Aren't the sweet
Speaker 6: said Jerry World, like you can't see anything and you're
Speaker 6: just watching it on TV in there anyways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I'm an owner, then I'm on display.
Speaker 2: Do I want to be on display? Uh? But maybe
Speaker 2: I'm bringing ownership in here and I shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2: This is just a fan who's going to be there.
Speaker 2: Like you can be court signed. You could be on
Speaker 2: the fifty yard line on the glass with hockey awesome
Speaker 2: behind home plate. That's great too. I think on the
Speaker 2: glass for hockey would be where i'd probably uh, or
Speaker 2: on the floor for a basketball game. I probably side there.
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Speaker 2: Diggs has signed with the Commanders. Commanders could use some
Speaker 2: help here. Terry McLaurin is good. Stephan Diggs is thirty
Speaker 2: two years of age now. Statistically he had some good
Speaker 2: numbers for the Patriots last year. I just don't know
Speaker 2: if he was really threatening the way that we've expected
Speaker 2: with Stephan Diggs and at thirty two years of age.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they haven't loaded up for Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 2: If you have this quarterback rookie year took you deep
Speaker 2: into the playoffs, he gets hurt. I just thought, man,
Speaker 2: they were screaming out for Jeremiah Love to move up
Speaker 2: and go get him. I don't know what it would
Speaker 2: have cost. I don't know if Arizona would have budged
Speaker 2: off of that, but man, we thought that that was
Speaker 2: going to be the perfect place Jade Daniels, Jeremiah Love.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if they've got enough weapons here.
Speaker 2: They also parted ways with Cliff Kingsbarring. He played a
Speaker 2: major role in helping Jayden Daniels' rookie season. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. Commanders don't look threatening with their weapons here.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I look at Caleb Williams. You know, they got dj Moore,
Speaker 2: they got Burden, Lovelin Swift, o'douza, but more is gone now.
Speaker 2: He came over originally to help Caleb Williams. So they
Speaker 2: have supplied some weapons there. Rock Perty had Ayuk Kittle,
Speaker 2: Deebo CMC. I mean even the Saints with Tyler schuck Olave,
Speaker 2: Tyson Kamara at tn. You got to have some weapons
Speaker 2: here for these guys. Burrow got chasing Higgins. Yeah, Pauli.
Speaker 8: And if you go back to the draft, the Commanders
Speaker 8: had the eighth seventh pick of the draft. They took
Speaker 8: linebacker Sunny Styles. They passed on Jordan Tyson, the wide
Speaker 8: receiver out of Arizona State, the second best receiver in
Speaker 8: the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to give these young guys some weapons here. Yep, Marvin.
Speaker 10: Do you think Diggs is getting a bad rap for
Speaker 10: his off the field issues because Stefan Diggs helped the
Speaker 10: Patriots get to the super Bowl, which nobody expected.
Speaker 2: I think off the field, yes, he's been involved in
Speaker 2: a couple of situations here and that probably would that
Speaker 2: would scare me away at that age. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a sliding scale of your contributions, your baggage, how old
Speaker 2: you are, how much you're making, and what do we
Speaker 2: need as a team right now. But Stefan Diggs, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, can he give you sixty five seventy catches?
Speaker 2: But it feels like you're getting possession receivers there. You
Speaker 2: don't have that home run hitter, Yes, Dylan and.
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels is sort of in that CJ.
Speaker 6: Stroud boat for me where granted Jaden Daniels got injured,
Speaker 6: but it's like we're still waiting to see if they
Speaker 6: could recreate that rookie year magic.
Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna be tough because I think and Jayden
Speaker 2: Daniels great talent, but there has always been a concern
Speaker 2: that he would be fragile, you know, with his build
Speaker 2: and you know you're you're a guy who's a scrambler,
Speaker 2: a runner, so you know, how much does he decide
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be that Like Pat Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: you almost have to train yourself to it's there to run,
Speaker 2: but I'm trying not to run as much. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be under center. We're going to be a running team,
Speaker 2: and you know, to learn that now that can be challenging.
Speaker 2: And then you have a rookie that you're gonna say
Speaker 2: to Jayden and Daniels, hey, don't always you know, first
Speaker 2: option is not there, you you know, bring the ball
Speaker 2: down and run. Josh Allen can do that. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: can do that. I don't want Jayden Daniels doing a
Speaker 2: lot of that. Cam Newton could do that. There's certain
Speaker 2: guys where you go, Okay, Jayden Daniels is thin and
Speaker 2: won't survive collisions.
Speaker 6: Yes, deal, And there's a pretty bad track record for
Speaker 6: mobile quarterbacks on the Commander's field.
Speaker 13: So so yeah, maybe they got that cleaned up, you
Speaker 13: know after the R three God, I hope. So I
Speaker 13: remember watching and it was a playoff game, and I go,
Speaker 13: I mean, my backyard looked better than that field did.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Let's see a couple of phone calls Travis in Maryland. Hi, Travis,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me today?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 14: Now, DP, how are you great?
Speaker 2: Travis?
Speaker 14: Hey, I was listening. I was just listening to the
Speaker 14: player of today man, and that sound of what those
Speaker 14: are tawy home runs. You're right, it doesn't sound like
Speaker 14: anybody else when that ball comes off the bat.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 14: But anyway, so what I wanted to talk about was
Speaker 14: the speech that you're going to give at your daughter's wedding, man,
Speaker 14: and you got to release that tape.
Speaker 3: Us.
Speaker 14: We gotta see that. You've been talking about this for
Speaker 14: weeks and months, and I'm telling you, DP, if we
Speaker 14: don't get that tape, you are start.
Speaker 2: Thank you Travis. Okay, I did ask my wife last night.
Speaker 2: I said, look, some members of the audience brought up,
Speaker 2: could I, once it's done, show the video of me
Speaker 2: giving this speech for my daughter at her wedding. She said, well,
Speaker 2: I think I would ask your daughter, And I said, okay,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna wait and ask her maybe today or tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and just see what she thinks. But I'm at least
Speaker 2: broaching the topic here of putting it out there on
Speaker 2: our website. Yes, Dylan, I feel like you.
Speaker 6: Should kind of be the final saying. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: your speech. Are you do you.
Speaker 4: Want to release it to the public.
Speaker 2: Dylan, there's certain things. It's called protocol. Yes, you're right,
Speaker 2: but you got to run it through the home office.
Speaker 6: No, I get that, but it's ultimately it's you're you're
Speaker 6: kind of bearing your soul to the world.
Speaker 2: I'll wait until you get married and then you offer advice. Okay,
Speaker 2: you get married and then offer up advice. But no,
Speaker 2: you got to you got to run it by everybody
Speaker 2: just to make sure that, hey, this could be posted.
Speaker 2: But I did bring it up. I brought it up
Speaker 2: to my wife last night. And if I don't post it,
Speaker 2: it's not because I'm soft, It's just because maybe there's
Speaker 2: some people who don't want it out there. I guess
Speaker 2: that's going to be my excuse I because then, you know,
Speaker 2: I can ask one of the back room guys to
Speaker 2: edit it so they can take out the projectile crying
Speaker 2: that I'm going to have. It's okay to cry, I know,
Speaker 2: but it's when you go that's the problem. And yes,
Speaker 2: I worry about that walking down the aisle that oh,
Speaker 2: look at him, he's crying, and be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: listen to him cry. You don't want somebody saying listen
Speaker 2: to him cry? Who's in the confessional? Todd is Friday
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