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Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. We

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Speaker 1: hope all of you had fabulous fourth of July and

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Speaker 1: you are back at work or on your way back home.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about a huge variety of different topics

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Speaker 1: out there, big beautiful Bill passes, did he not guilty?

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Speaker 1: Epstein files zoron Mam Donnie's attempt to pretend that he

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Speaker 1: was black. And the one that we started off talking

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Speaker 1: about the most and the one that we have discussed

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Speaker 1: the most on the program is where we return for

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Speaker 1: the start of hour number three, and that is the

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Speaker 1: floods that hit all over the Hill Country of Texas.

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Speaker 1: Over ninety people have lost their lives so far, there

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Speaker 1: are still many missing. We are joined now by Congressman

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Speaker 1: Chip Roy, who represents that area of the country. You

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Speaker 1: been working NonStop. I've seen your social handles. I know

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Speaker 1: you have been going everywhere. We appreciate the time. Congressman,

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Speaker 1: what can you tell us about what you've seen the latest?

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Speaker 1: What is the situation there on the ground right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you said it I mean those

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Speaker 2: numbers that you're talking about in terms of the total deceased,

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Speaker 2: those numbers keep changing, and they're changing more rapidly today

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Speaker 2: because the recovery missions are really starting to catch up

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Speaker 2: and they're finding those who unfortunately perished. You know, I

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Speaker 2: think there's still a decent number of unidentified children, but

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Speaker 2: obviously can't miss it. Put out a report or put

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Speaker 2: out a statement, I should say, indicating that you know

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Speaker 2: that the twenty seven where have either passed or or

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Speaker 2: they've not been able to find yet. And this has

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Speaker 2: been what we've sort of known for the last forty

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Speaker 2: eight hours. But we're holding out hope through the through

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Speaker 2: the rescue process that we might be able to find

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Speaker 2: some survivors. But it's truly devastating in that part of

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Speaker 2: the country. People who are familiar with it know that

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Speaker 2: it's one of the most beautiful parts of the state.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason there are eighteen kids camps in that

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Speaker 2: area and have been for years. You know. Camp Mystic

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Speaker 2: was going to turn one hundred years old next year.

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Speaker 2: I hope they will continue to stay in operation. There

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Speaker 2: are camps that have been there for generations. People go there.

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Speaker 2: It's a holiday destination, which is why there were so

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Speaker 2: many people, not just at kids camps, but at campgrounds.

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Speaker 2: That's why there's the numbers are a lot higher than

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Speaker 2: just the girls camps. Right there was people whose RVs

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Speaker 2: were swept away. I went to a part of kind

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Speaker 2: of what's called West Kerrville into Ingram before you get

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Speaker 2: out to Hunt, where all the kids camps are, and

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Speaker 2: I stood in a spot where there had been a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of RVs and they were just gone, like literally,

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Speaker 2: it's just been swept away. And look, the response has

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Speaker 2: been great. I don't want to filibuster here, but the

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Speaker 2: response by the state, the locals, the FEDS has been extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: People on the ground, the volunteer outreach, the people reaching

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Speaker 2: out to give money, give food, give supplies, show up.

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Speaker 2: There was a line. They had to kind of shut

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Speaker 2: down the volunteer place yesterday because there was just too

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Speaker 2: many people. That's a good problem to have, but you know,

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Speaker 2: this is going to be a long recovery. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to help, you know, send money, that's great,

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Speaker 2: but be ready to show up in a week or

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Speaker 2: two or three.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, when people start to forget about it, that's

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Speaker 2: when they're going to need to help the most.

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Speaker 4: Congst and Roy appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 5: I know there's a lot going on there and the

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Speaker 5: whole country's hearts are broken over the loss of loss

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Speaker 5: of life already to the degree that you can there's

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Speaker 5: already a lot of talk about early warning. Should there

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Speaker 5: have been more early warning? Are there different systems that

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Speaker 5: need to be in place? I know it's early stage,

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Speaker 5: if you will, in the after action assessment to understand

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Speaker 5: what might have been able to be different, what could

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Speaker 5: have been different? What is your sense of that was

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Speaker 5: there a big miss here from the perspective of getting

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Speaker 5: the word out with the proper systems, or was it

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Speaker 5: more this is just a once in a century event

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Speaker 5: and there was going to be loss of life on

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Speaker 2: Look, I think I've been careful not to get too

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Speaker 2: much into this speculation over the last seventy two hours.

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Speaker 2: And you guys are asking this question in good faith,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate it, and I will give you an

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Speaker 2: answer to my rough thoughts. But I will just conclude

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Speaker 2: one thought, which is I'm still getting text messages today

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Speaker 2: from love from family members, from friends around the state

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Speaker 2: and we've got people you know that are grieving. I

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Speaker 2: met with the families night before last who had not

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Speaker 2: and the city manager and engaging with them about you know,

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Speaker 2: DNA collections so they can identify their kids. This is

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Speaker 2: a statement for the rest of the world. It's not

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Speaker 2: directed at you guys, but everybody that's just zeroing in

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Speaker 2: on this and politicizing this right out of the bat.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for the love of everything holy, everything that

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Speaker 2: state is being display right now with everybody going to

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Speaker 2: help people, find people, comfort people, pray for people. The

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Speaker 2: pictures of those little girls singing hems coming back from

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Speaker 2: the camp, you know, when they had just lost girls

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Speaker 2: in their camp and they're singing hems, Christian hems while

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Speaker 2: they're looking at the damage that I saw yesterday driving

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Speaker 2: down that stretch of the river. So that's just a

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Speaker 2: message to the world, like to slow your political role.

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Speaker 2: Goodness gracious now on the question, because it is a

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Speaker 2: relevant question. One We're going to have to figure this

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Speaker 2: out over time. Okay, nobody knows for sure right now. Two,

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Speaker 2: My sense of it is more the latter of your question.

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Speaker 2: This was a once in a century type of kind

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Speaker 2: of flood. It has flooded before nineteen eighty seven, previous times.

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Speaker 2: It is prone to flash flooding. Therefore, number three, yes,

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Speaker 2: they probably need a better warning system, sirens, other types

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Speaker 2: of things. But we will go through that process going forward,

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Speaker 2: the local official, state officials, and we'll be looking at

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Speaker 2: it obvious federally, although it's not really I think our

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Speaker 2: direct purview. But I think those things are all true.

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Speaker 2: This nonsense about the Weather Service, that's crap. They had

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Speaker 2: people there, they were putting out warnings. People knew they

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Speaker 2: were going to be flash floods. The only question is

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Speaker 2: is trying to determine the severity of it, Which brings

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Speaker 2: me to my last point five, which is there is bureaucracy.

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Speaker 2: There are systems that are old. We could have better technology,

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Speaker 2: we could have better predictions, We can have less bureaucracy

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Speaker 2: and communicating it. But just keep in mind this final point.

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Speaker 2: It was four am on July fourth, in the dark

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Speaker 2: a massive, unprecedented flood drove into basically a canyon area

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Speaker 2: thirty feet in less than an hour. That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: So we can try to protect against it, and we

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Speaker 2: can do better, and we should, but let's try to

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Speaker 2: keep perspective in all of this. I mean that respectfully.

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Speaker 2: I think your question was absolutely in good good faith

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate it. Chip.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who is in this area knows Camp Mystic. It

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Speaker 1: feels like we're coming up on one hundred years. I

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Speaker 1: think next year is supposed to be one hundredth anniversary

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Speaker 1: of this. What is camp Mystic?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean for people in your district who

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Speaker 1: may not be familiar with it but are learning now

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Speaker 1: because unfortunately so many of these young kids appear to

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Speaker 1: have been victims based on being located there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just to give you a couple of

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Speaker 2: data points. Number One, night before last, when I was

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Speaker 2: with all those families, there's a woman there named Mary

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Speaker 2: Liz Eastland. She lost her father in law, Dig Eastland,

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Speaker 2: who was the older man who bought that camp in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies and nineteen seventy three, who died on

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Speaker 2: the night of the event, trying to save little girls.

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Speaker 2: So she had just lost her father in law. She's

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Speaker 2: you can imagine the tension. But they showed up to

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Speaker 2: and outpouring that's been coming out because the families who

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Speaker 2: have gone there for years. It's a part of the

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Speaker 2: culture here. My kids go to a classical Christian school.

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Speaker 2: A large chunk of the kids that go to their

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Speaker 2: school go to Camp Mystic or have been to Camp Mystic.

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Speaker 2: They had friends who were there. In this particular week,

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Speaker 2: we had a little girl from our school who was saved,

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Speaker 2: you know, praised the Lord, she was saved. She was

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Speaker 2: kind of floating in the river for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 2: And we've had other stories like that. But we've also

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Speaker 2: had stories of people we know, friends of ours. One

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Speaker 2: of my staffers fraternity brothers, his daughter was lost. One

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Speaker 2: of the people I used to work and who I

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Speaker 2: She passed away. I had a local jeweler who talked

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Speaker 2: to James Avery they lost one of their loved ones.

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Speaker 2: The kids, city chiefs, family lost the loved one. It's

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Speaker 2: hitting everybody, but it's a great and historic camp. And

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Speaker 2: one last thing is one of my staffers, you know,

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Speaker 2: worked there and talked about what a great man Eatland

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Speaker 2: was teaching them fly fishing and all the ways of life.

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Speaker 2: This morning my office, we got a fellow staffer from

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Speaker 2: another Texas office who sent us a box of cookies.

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Speaker 2: And it's said at Camp Mystic Tweety, who was mister

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Speaker 2: Eastland's wife, she's still alive. She made cookies and they

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Speaker 2: were given to campers as a reward for a hard work,

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Speaker 2: and they sent us cookies because my staff has been

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Speaker 2: working around the clock for the last three days.

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Speaker 5: Congress and Roy, is there anything that can be done

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Speaker 5: by this audience, by people listening other We have a

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Speaker 5: lot of people who are right in your area, by

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Speaker 5: the way, who are probably a ten minute drive from

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Speaker 5: but anything nationwide as well, if that can be done

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Speaker 5: to just to assist to help are their organizations that

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Speaker 5: are doing a lot of frontline work that could use support.

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Speaker 5: We just want to put that out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's obviously there's a lot of great

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Speaker 2: work going on. There's a community foundation in the Hill

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Speaker 2: Country that is collecting a lot money and then a

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Speaker 2: lot of food places and so forth. Volunteers can sign

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Speaker 2: up online at it's called tcr dot community os dot org.

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Speaker 2: You can find that if you look or call eight

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Speaker 2: three zero four six five four seven nine seven for

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Speaker 2: volunteers to sign up. There are places to be able

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Speaker 2: to give money. That stuff's all going to be out

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Speaker 2: and if you want to know, just go to my

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Chiproy t X c h I p R

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Speaker 2: o I t X or Rep chip Roy and I

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Speaker 2: will be putting all of that out with graphics and

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Speaker 2: places where people can give. And my biggest ask is

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Speaker 2: we've got everybody wanting to come in right now, and

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Speaker 2: I get it, and God bless you for it, but

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Speaker 2: it's hard, right We can't take everybody in everything right now.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a multi week thing. So

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Speaker 2: if you can, you know, volunteer or contribute or engage,

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Speaker 2: you know next week, you know in a month, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna need it, and so everything. We'll take everything whenever

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Speaker 2: we can, but just just know they're gonna need it

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Speaker 2: for a while.

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Speaker 1: Last thing that I want I appreciate you coming on

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Speaker 5: Congress Enroy, Our hearts and prayers thoughts go to the

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Speaker 5: You know, we just talked to Congressman Roy to get

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Speaker 6: These offices were fully staffed. The San Angelo office was

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Speaker 5: And just you can't let the can't let the media

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's important, and we come back, we'll

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Speaker 2: For the facts to be out there.

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Speaker 1: But anybody who's lived through tornadoes, floods, blaming hurricanes, blaming

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Speaker 1: Today, Welcome back in Clay Travis Bought Sexton Show.

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Speaker 4: A lot of.

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Speaker 1: Major news coming down over the weekend. You just heard

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Speaker 1: We have now reviewed everything. There is nothing more to

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Speaker 4: Listen, I looked at the circumstances rounding the death of

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Speaker 2: According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating

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Speaker 4: So what happened to the Epstein client list that the

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Speaker 2: Roberts said, DOOJ, maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

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Speaker 6: Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,

438
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Speaker 6: all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

439
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Speaker 6: That's what the Attorney General was referring to. And I'll

440
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Speaker 6: let her speak for that.

441
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 4: Okay.

442
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: So I think Pam Bondi is in a tough spot

443
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: over the comments that she made on Fox News that

444
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: Peter Deucy just read you and I I think probably

445
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: see this pretty much the same for those of you

446
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: who were not listening earlier. And I would argue this

447
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: is probably if you were of the opinion, I'll give

448
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: you credit because you said there's not going to be

449
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: anything that's a massive interest in here JFK files, MLK files.

450
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: If there were smoking gun evidence of wrongdoing, that stuff

451
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: has been gone for a while, right, It's not like

452
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: you're going to suddenly open a file and it's going

453
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, this guy did it, or if

454
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's not Scooby Doo where suddenly you unmask

455
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: someone and they're guilty.

456
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Speaker 4: If that had existed.

457
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't written, and it certainly isn't in a file

458
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Speaker 1: decades later.

459
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I knew that all along. Some people are look, oh,

460
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 5: of course the CIA guy would say that. It's like,

461
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: trust me, if it was that interesting, some other CIA

462
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 5: guy would have blown the whistle and told you about

463
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 5: it a long time ago JFK MLK files. And then

464
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 5: on the Epstein thing, I'll just say, the administration here

465
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 5: and really the right more broadly in right wing media,

466
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 5: created this expectation that there were going to be big

467
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 5: revelations here. I've never thought there were going to be

468
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 5: big revelations. I've always thought that whatever was hidden has

469
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 5: been hidden very well. Now what I have an objection to,

470
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: or rather what I have I keep saying a hard

471
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Speaker 5: time believing. I'm open to being persuaded that I'm wrong,

472
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 5: but just that there was nothing more to this than

473
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Speaker 5: no one else involved. I just don't believe that. And

474
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: people can tell me, well, that's what the evidence says,

475
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: and that I'll just say, well, there's a lot of

476
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 5: stuff that still hasn't been answered in that evidence. And

477
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 5: the administration though, and did DOJ's own attorney general that

478
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 5: they had a a an event at the White House

479
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 5: where they said, Hey, we're letting all the stuff out.

480
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 5: You're going to find out everything. Well, now we're finding

481
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 5: out nothing. Actually there's nothing new and all the stuff.

482
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Speaker 5: She said truckloads of evidence. Truck I think that was

483
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 5: actually the wordy. I got a truckload of evidence that

484
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 5: we're going to go through nothing. So this guy was

485
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: able to do all of this for as long as

486
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 5: he did. Law enforcement not interested in actually holding him

487
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 5: accountable at all until he'd been doing it for twenty

488
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: something years and he was almost a billionaire. We don't

489
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 5: know how. And he had all these tapes going on,

490
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 5: and was able to become friends with some of the

491
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 5: richest and most powerful people in the world, able to

492
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 5: be friends with a former president who was on his

493
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: plane like a dozen times, Bill Clinton. And there's just

494
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: no there. There is what they want us to believe,

495
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 5: and I just don't believe it. And maybe I'm being stubborn.

496
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 5: I don't believe it, Clay. That's meaning I'm not saying

497
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 5: that the people that are presenting this are lying to us.

498
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I think there's more that they either don't

499
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: know about, having been able to find was destroyed in

500
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 5: the process. I just don't buy that this was the

501
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 5: whole thing that's asking me to buy a lot.

502
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, I come back and we talked

503
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: about this earlier. The initial cushy prosecution that he got

504
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: in Florida, that's the one that is hard for me

505
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: to look past because there had to be something else

506
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: going on there when you look at the severity of

507
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: what he was alleged to have done, and he got

508
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: basically house arrests. And I think his defense, if he

509
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: had gone to trial, was going to be similar to

510
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: the Bill Cosby defense, which was this has already been

511
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: prosecuted and investigated, and now you're trying to hit me

512
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: with a double jeopardy charge.

513
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: In other words, that he had.

514
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: Agreed to plee out and the consequences for his actions were, hey,

515
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: you have to do home confinement. And so I think

516
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, all of this just doesn't

517
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: add up. And I think, certainly there has been so

518
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: much time spent on this is part of a larger

519
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: conspiracy that it's hard to unring the proverbial bell and

520
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: just come back and say, hey, this was a guy

521
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: with certain sexual peccadillos, and he engaged in all sorts

522
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: of behavior, but it was mostly just him. Almost all

523
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: the video and the evidence was just him and the victims,

524
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: and he was recording himself and storing it in safe

525
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: like it doesn't really add up, right, I mean, just.

526
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 4: Quote too, that.

527
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: Quote from and it was Acosta was the guy who

528
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 5: stepped down because of his role as US attorney in

529
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 5: this sweetheart plea deal. He stepped down from the Trump administration.

530
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 5: The team looked that up before. I want to make

531
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: sure that I got that right. But Clay, Yeah, Alexander

532
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 5: Acosta was a US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida,

533
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: criticized for his handling of the Epstein case in two

534
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 5: thousand and seven two thousand and eight. He stepped down

535
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: from his role as US Secretary of Labor in twenty

536
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: nineteen when people looked.

537
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: At the would why would Epstein get this deal?

538
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: And also what about that whole he belongs to intelligence

539
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 5: quote that we all know that we all heard about,

540
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 5: so that that's just another another coincidence, that there was

541
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: some belief that there were other parties that were leveraging

542
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: in some way what Epstein was doing.

543
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: All of this was not.

544
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 5: He was just a serial pedophile worth a billion dollars

545
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 5: that nobody knew why.

546
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: And that's it. That's the end of the story. Yeah,

547
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: it doesn't.

548
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: It does.

549
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 5: The only the only guy who had who did anything

550
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: that we know of that was is the Prince. Prince

551
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: Andrew was the only guy who we know was you know,

552
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: alleged he denies it, but was allegedly involved with one

553
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: of the Epstein traffic victims.

554
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: The only one. It was just him over all those years.

555
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: You don't buy islands and become nearly a billionaire without

556
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: having had tremendous financial success, to the nothing of the

557
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar plus place that he had in New

558
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: York City too.

559
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: But I lived in the US Virgin Islands. I'm still

560
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: an attorney there.

561
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: The freaking island that he owned in the Virgin Islands,

562
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean you could stand and look at it. I

563
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: mean it's one of the primo pieces of land in

564
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: the United States universe. And yet he didn't own any company.

565
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: He did it.

566
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't even a hedge fund or private equity guy.

567
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: No one is ever really able to explain how this

568
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: guy got hundreds of millions of dollars and he didn't

569
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: inherit it. He came from nothing and ended up with

570
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars, And yet what can you

571
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: point to and explain how that happened. That's where I

572
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: come back to and just say, you don't end up

573
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: nearly a billionaire without building something that is traceable, owning

574
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: something that is traceable. He owned land, he owned jets,

575
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: How like, where did his money come from? It doesn't

576
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: also point out this is just the money that they

577
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: already that they found to know him, he might have

578
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: been stashing Yeah, that's true. He had an island to

579
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: evade US jurisdiction, obviously to the degree that was possible.

580
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: But I'm sure he was stashing money in in numbered

581
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: accounts overseas, in those little tiny, you know, island jurisdictions

582
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: that exist basically just so people can launder money. I'm

583
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: sure that was going on too. So he's probably worth

584
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: even more than a six hundred million that we've been

585
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: told about a roughly six hundred million dollars. I just

586
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: it's remarkable.

587
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: And I think part of the problem Clay is the

588
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 5: Attorney General was all in on we need transparency on Epstein. Man,

589
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 5: there's big stuff coming out, and now it's on a

590
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: Sunday night. Yeah, there's nothing to see there. That's even

591
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: Let's assume for a second that that's true. That we're

592
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: assuming that that's true, meaning what they've told this is true.

593
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I agree with it. That's a really

594
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 5: big whiplash to have for everybody who's been told by

595
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like, oh there were these crazy

596
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: right wing like online.

597
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: Chat room people. We're not chatters doesn't exist anymore.

598
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 5: But you don't e mean like Twitter or stuff, and

599
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: that nobody in power thought that there was going to

600
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: be anything there. We were told this was a big

601
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: thing that was coming, and I didn't believe that the

602
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: revelation would be big. But I didn't think that they

603
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: would come out and say, yeah, Epstein acted alone and

604
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 5: there's nothing else to see here, which is what they've

605
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: come out and said. And he killed himself and there's

606
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: nothing else to see here. The killed himself thing. I

607
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 5: can believe the rest of it. I find just you're

608
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 5: asking for so much of the public to trust in

609
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 5: a narrative without providing, and now they're just saying, we

610
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 5: can't show you any videos.

611
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: We can't show anything because it.

612
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: Involved in minors pornography and underage pornography.

613
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I understand that. But so we see nothing and

614
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 5: we're told the whole I mean of new evidence of

615
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 5: any kind of any kind manifest nothing, and we're told

616
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: that the whole thing goes away.

617
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: That's it, end of story. That's a lot, that's asking

618
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 4: a lot.

619
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I just come back to it's hard

620
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: to become nearly a billionaire without building something. So blackmail

621
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: like trading on I mean again, he did it. Let's

622
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: accept the story.

623
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: The story is that he was he was moving acid

624
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: or he was like an asset manager for people. Yeah,

625
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 5: you make like one or two percent of assets managed.

626
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: And also if he was moving that much money where

627
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: he would be able to amass hundreds of millions of

628
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 5: dollars from moving money for other people, people would know

629
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: the moves he'd make on Wall Street. You couldn't do

630
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: this in secret, not possible.

631
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's where I come back to, the math

632
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't add up on how wealthy he became without

633
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: there being something else going on. So I having said

634
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: all that, I don't think that there is some massive

635
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: amount of information that Pam Bondi or Cash Patel or

636
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino are sitting on and they're like, I'm not

637
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the truth about Epstein. I just think

638
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: there's not anything left and I don't think that's a coincidence.

639
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of my take. I think here's

640
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: a good question for us. We can probably talk about

641
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: it some tomorrow because we're almost into the show. When's

642
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: the last time that you, meaning all of us, were

643
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: told and promised something was coming that was huge and

644
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: transformative and impactful and then it was delivered and you said,

645
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: holy cow, this confirms everything that I thought before. Can

646
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: you remember even one of these like the government? A

647
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: lot of the conspiracy theories when it comes to things

648
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: like Epstein never actually pan out. I'm trying to think

649
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: maybe you guys can think of one for me and

650
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: hit me on social media something where eventually it did

651
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: come out and you said, oh wow, okay, this adds up.

652
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: This confirms everything I thought. Israel is going to be

653
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: in the news again today, not just because Netanyahu's visiting

654
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: with Trump, because there's a proposed ceasefire in Gaza. To consider,

655
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: it's been almost three years since we had the initial attack,

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Speaker 4: Have some some time with that one.

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Speaker 1: And also, uh, yeah, you look like you're about to

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Speaker 1: There's more on this Epstein thing that we can talk about,

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Speaker 4: And it's never been a thought for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the FBI.

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Speaker 5: Can eventually find it and lock you up forever. Makes

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Speaker 4: I concur