1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show. Some numbers that did 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: stand out last Saturday. Speaking of numbers, the numbers that 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: belong to Hassan Reddick are quite impressive. We'll get into 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: the details, but first there will be at least one 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: backup quarterback on the field when the Cardinals play the 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: Rams on Sunday. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three eighty 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, Visit asy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near site of fence Bob. 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: He's into the ends, off to the touchdown. Here's Craig 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Griolu and Mike Jarecki. So it is official. John Walford 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: will be the Rams starting quarterback this week. Head coach 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: John McVay made the announcements. Now, Wolford has never played 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: in an NFL regular season game. He has those spent 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: two years with the Rams, last year on the practice squad, 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: this year on the active roster, so he is familiar 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: with the Rams offense, he is just not very familiar 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: with doing it with the lights on, so to speak. 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it to be his first official 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: start getting live action in an NFL game. Now he's 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: been on the roster, as you mentioned, he did play 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: in some preseason games in twenty nineteen and they made 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: a decision to keep Wolford over Blake Bortles because of 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: his mobility. He's very similar to Jared Goff. He can 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: throw on the run. I think he's got good pocket awareness. 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: He's also composure in the pocket. So again it's not 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, but it's a guy making his first start. 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully Vans Joseph and the Cardinals defense can throw a 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: lot of different looks at him to make him uncomfortable. Now, Bordoles, 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: who is currently on the Broncos practice squad and spent 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: last season, as you mentioned, with the Rams, is expected 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: to rejoin the Rams, but likely as a third quarterback. 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins, who's on the practice squad, will be the 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: backup to Walford this week. Remember, Jared Goff underwent thumb surgery. 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: There is some hope that he will be back for 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the postseason, although right now m the Rams are not 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They need to win or they can 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: also back their way. And if the Bears lose to 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the Packers, which certainly the Packers have something to play for, 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: they want that number one seed, so they're going to 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: go all out, and you would certainly like green base chances, 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: even though that game is in Chicago. And I'm just 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: wondering if you're the Cardinals and this announcement is made 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: on a Monday nights and now all of a sudden, 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about Jared Goff. We know 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: his numbers against the Cardinals, they're phenomenal. But Jared Goff 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: against the rest of the league of the last couple 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: of years has not been great. He's been up and down. 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: He's been a turnover machine. And I would prefer that 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff would be on the field, just because that 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: is the known versus the unknown. But if you're the Cardinals, 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: do you read this as a the Rams believe they 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: don't need golf to beat the Cardinals. There was no 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: way golf could play this week anyway, So have the 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: surgery now or the Rams feel confident and the Packers 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: beating the Bears. I just think that they had to 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: make a decision and they hope that he comes back 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: if they can win a playoff game. I just think 61 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that's the protocol and where they are when you start 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: connecting the dots. Now, if I'm a head coach or 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: someone in there, I'm hyping this up and I'm going 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: to motivation route. I'm putting this out there that hey, 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: look we've got a backup quarterback because the Rams are 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: so confident they've beaten us seven straight times, doesn't matter 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. They feel that they can go 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: in and just show up and beat us. I would 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: play that to a t all week long as a 70 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: matter of disrespect, because this team needs to be motivated. 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: And yes, win or go home is should be enough motivation. 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: Based off last week against the forty nine ers, maybe 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: this team needs a little bit more to motivate themselves. Now. 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: I like what you're saying. I like what you're singing there. 75 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't you know, listen whatever it takes, you would 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: think because you're playing for something to you know, obviously 77 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: get to the postseason, so that should be enough motivation. 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying you could take a 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: look and say the Rams are confident enough that Jared 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: Goff could possibly make a playoff appearance if they win. 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: But I'm for the Cardinals. It's more about what they're 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna do versus what the Rams are gonna do if 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: they win or lose in this game. Now, Wolford becomes 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: the fourth different backup quarterback to start a game against 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, and c. J. Beathard. 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: If you want to say there should be a fifth 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: and sixth in that category because of TWA and Jalen Hurts, 88 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. Our colleague Kylodguard says, no, 89 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I base it off of who replaced and injured starting 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: quarterback versus replacing a starting quarterback because of performance. But 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: I certainly look at it as hey, six different backup 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the Cardinals have played this se reason, and yeah, 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: you've won some, you lost some, but it's not a 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: murderers row of opposing quarterbacks that this team has faced. 95 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: And the most recent game with CJ. Bethard under center, 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team looked lost offensively and defensively. Look, I'm 97 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: I would feel a lot better until I'm proven otherwise, 98 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Jared Goff under center versus John Walford, because I just 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I see I'm envisioning things that are not good for 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals because they just tend to feel like, well, 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: that is who is going to be on the field. 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: We're better than them on paper, we can just show 103 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: up because that's been the m O all season long. Yeah, 104 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: and I think that was the case with CJ. Bethard. 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Now you know, obviously his teammates who were playing hard 106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: for him considering he lost his brother in the offseason, 107 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: and he knows he's only gonna get a couple of 108 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: starts depending on what happens in the future. Yeah, it's 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: just listen. I just think Jared Goff has owned the 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals since he's been there. Now, again, you look with 111 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 1: the way they played over the last couple of weeks, 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: and even going into the Cardinals game, Craig he had 113 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of turnovers and they lose the to Jets 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: and they lose it a Seahawks. But I just think 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's the starting quarterback and they've 116 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: invested a lot of money in him. I don't know 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: if he's part of the future. He did take this 118 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: team to the Super Bowl. You got to give him 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: credit there. But I just think that Jaredkoff and when 120 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: they play the Cardinals, it seems like he has a 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: lot of confidence in those games. And I think the 122 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: numbers reflected. Yeah, eight games against the Cardinals, he's seven 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: and one with eleven touchdowns and three interceptions. And Week 124 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: thirteen he had three hundred and fifty one yards passing 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: and one touchdown. He did not turn the ball over 126 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: at all. And again, I know what it is. It's 127 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: John Woolford. It's just it worries me, It concerns me, 128 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: and maybe it's all for not. Maybe at the end 129 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: of the day, we're talking postgame on Cardinal Talk or 130 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Monday here on Cardinals Cover Tom, we're talking about a 131 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: great performance by the Cardinals. They make the playoffs for 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: the first time. Is twenty fifteen. I just right now, 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: what is still in my mind that I can't get 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: out of is a performance, a sixty minute effort that 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: was disbelief, that was lackluster, that was flats against the 136 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: forty nine ers at State Farm Stadium. Inexcusable, disappointing, came 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: out flat. According to the head coach, they got out played. Now, coach, 138 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty obvious they didn't win in 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: the trenches. Now, I'll go back to last year. You know, 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: no Cam Newton all week, Cam Newton playing possum Kyle Allen? 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: What did Kyle Allen? Do? You know? And listen to uh, 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, he made his first start and then he 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: made his first road start in Arizona. Look at you 144 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: know a guy like Jalen Hurts. I mean he made 145 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: his first start at home and then he made his 146 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: second start and he put up numbers against Cardinals. Luckily 147 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: they won that game, so they have you know, again, 148 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: this team plays their opponent. And so sometimes when you're 149 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: playing the Seahawks, and you would think a division game, Craig, 150 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: you'd be up for it where you had an opportunity 151 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: to sweep to San Francisco forty nine ers, a team 152 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: that represents at the conference last year. So to me, 153 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: it's just mind boggling that you're playing for something and 154 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: you still come out flat and you lose that game. 155 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: But they have struggled against backup quarterbacks. The one it 156 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: really sticks out to me is when they went to 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier and played the Steelers in no Roethlisberger, and 158 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: then they had Mike vic and I'm like, okay, hopefully 159 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Mike Bick stays in the game and he gets a 160 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: hamstring injury and they bring in Landry Jones, and I'll 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: let ever forget they have played a Martevius Bryan over 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: the middle and he goes all the way to the 163 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: end zone. So hopefully they've learned their lesson. But just 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: a week ago it was a prime example of taking 165 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: a third string quarterback lightly. Now you talk about a 166 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: third string quarterback, how about a third string running back. 167 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: We saw what Jeff Wilson was able to do against 168 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals last week, and now the Rams also with 169 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: issues at running back. Their leading runner Darryl Henderson suffered 170 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: a high ankle spraying. He's gonna be placed on injured reserve, 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: so he's not going to be available. Rookie Cam Akers 172 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: might play all he did not play last week after 173 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: suffering a high ankle spraying in week fifteen. It certainly 174 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: would seem unlikely. McVeigh did open up the door for 175 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the possibility. I just don't see it. So you'd without Henderson, 176 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: you without Acres at least Malcolm Brown as the only 177 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: experience back that the Rams have available. We're saying all 178 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: this which is all good news on paper, Yet what 179 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: do we say games not played on paper? No, And 180 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you know the Rams are running more two tight ends 181 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: this year. You know, you look at their tight ends, 182 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: you look at you know, a guy like Gerald Evert. 183 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: He's able to spread the field. He's he's really an 184 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: easy target and they run a lot of bootlegs in 185 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: jet sweeps and bubble plays. So that that's come to 186 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: me an extension of the run game. Now. Going into 187 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: the season, it was going to be running back by committee, 188 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: and then you know, maybe over the less five or 189 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: six weeks, Cam Akers came along first. He was a 190 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: high pick for the Rams, and then you look at 191 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: Henderson and what a play by Jamal Adams tackling and 192 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: before he got to the end zone and looked like 193 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: he had an ankle injury there. So they've really relied 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: on different guys in different weeks. So it looks like 195 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown will be the starter, but I do think 196 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: they're going to counter with some of his extended run plays, 197 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: whether it's a bubble screen or you know, obviously getting 198 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback outside the pocket where he can run a 199 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: little bit, not so much to run, but throw on 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the run, because we know Cooper cups one of the 201 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: best slot receivers in football. Robert Woods somehow gets open 202 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: all the time. So again, even though it's a young quarterback, 203 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I still think that they're going to try to run 204 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: the football but play action bootlegs. And that's where the 205 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals have struggled over the last few weeks when trying 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: to attempt that with Jalen Hurts and then CJ beth 207 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Well back in Week thirteen. The Cardinals did do a 208 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: decent job against the Rams rushing attack, but a rushing 209 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: attack that you didn't need to have go very well 210 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: because Jared Golf was so effective thirty forty seven, as 211 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned, three and fifty one yard, so it's not 212 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: like they need to be dominant, but you do need 213 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: somewhat of a run game. As we saw most recently 214 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals. They didn't have a ground game against 215 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and it certainly affected the passing game. Again, 216 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: hopefully fingers crossed. We're talking about this and a loss 217 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: of Jared Goff and no Darryl Henderson and potentially no 218 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: cam Akers. Maybe the Cardinals just take care of business, 219 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: do what we thought that they should have done earlier 220 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: in the season, what they should have done at New England, 221 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: what they should have done against the forty nine ers 222 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium, and then everything is forgotten and 223 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: you turn the page literally because it's a brand new 224 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: season when you get to the playoffs. Yeah, well, let's counterpoint. 225 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, Kenyan Drake, you know he's shown flashes, but 226 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: clearly the offensive lines had some issues with the false 227 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: starts and you know obviously getting some penalties prior post snap. 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds didn't finish the game. He basically got hurt 229 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: in the second quarter. And this team is predicated on 230 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: that running game with Kenyan Drake and Chase Edmonds, and 231 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: we always think Murray's a luxury. So curious to see 232 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals running game like. No, nothing against DJ 233 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Foster and Jonathan Ward, but these guys are more special 234 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: teams players, but they need that one two punch to 235 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: open up the passing game. It doesn't have to be 236 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot, it doesn't have to be one hundred and 237 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: fifty rushing yards or two hundred rushing yards, But you 238 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: do need to have an effective running game to where 239 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: the defense doesn't need or you want the defense to 240 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,479 Speaker 1: have seven eight in the box to open up the secondary. 241 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Because the forty nine ers were able to lay two 242 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: safeties back and you were stopped because you just had 243 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: five six guys in the box. That can't happen regardless 244 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: of who you're playing or who might be defending you 245 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: on any given week. Well, and let's look at it 246 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: matchup wise. I mean, you gotta think Jalen Ramsey's covering 247 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: hop I mean, Jaylon Ramsey is a very talented player. 248 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals are moving hop around now, so I wonder if 249 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: they're going to play man to man or zone and 250 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: then you just look at you know what other wide 251 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: receiver for the Cardinal steps up? I mean, is larare 252 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna get targeted more? Should Christian Kirk? He's got to 253 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: win some one on one matchups. These Cardinals receivers got 254 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: to find separation. And if Kyler Murray is eighty percent 255 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: and it's a lower leg injury, they're gonna have to 256 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: make some throws from inside the pocket. So maybe it's 257 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, but I think it's important to get Chase 258 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Edmonds back because I think he's been been a big 259 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: asset in the passing game. And right now all we 260 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: know about Edmonds is that he is quote day to 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: day according to head coach Cliff Kings, all that is true. 262 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: We are, but we're not playing football. We'll all be 263 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: watching and seeing who is on the practice field Wednesday 264 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: and of course the first injury report later on Wednesday 265 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: as well. A Tuesday edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 266 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. If you 267 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: enjoy what you're here here daily on Cardinals Cover two, 268 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: we invite you to subscribe to Arizona Cardinals Podcast so 269 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: you can listen to all of your favorite shows on 270 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: the go, like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, The 271 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Report, and of course this show, Cardinals 272 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Cover two. You can do that by going to Azy 273 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash podcast for more information. You can 274 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: also subscribe via Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. 275 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: Some Saturday leftovers if you will. Very little went right 276 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals in that twenty to twelve loss to 277 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, but did want to pass along 278 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: a couple of notes before we officially close the door 279 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: on Week sixteen. And I'm sure the sooner the better 280 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: considering what the Cardinals showed everyone during those sixty minutes. 281 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: But a couple of different things. One, Mike Nugent remained 282 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: perfect two more field goals, including a season long forty 283 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: three yarder. He's seven of seven on the season and 284 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: six of six on pats. And when you get to 285 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: this point in the season December January, playoff football, you 286 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: need to have a reliable kicker. And I think what 287 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have done here and the short stample size 288 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: with Mike Nugent is bring him along slowly. They're not 289 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: asking him to kill forty eight fifty two fifty five 290 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: yard field goals. He was short on that fifty five 291 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: yard or earlier in the year it was wiped off 292 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: the board because of a penalty. But I think they 293 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: have confidence in him. He is certainly has the resume 294 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: and the experience as far as being clutch in big 295 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: game situations, no doubt about it. And I think Cardinal 296 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: fans feel relieved when he goes out there. Now you 297 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: start getting forty eight in plus and they're difficult kicks 298 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: depending on you know whether that you know, obviously playing 299 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: in the dome's daming or a trackable rowth hasn't affected that. 300 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: And his kickoffs has been a lot better than I thought. 301 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: And sometimes they're going to kick it higher and shorter 302 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: because they're hoping you try to bring it out and 303 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: you don't get to the twenty five yard line. But 304 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: he's been very consistent. And again, when Zane was going 305 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: out there, I think people were holding their breath. I 306 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: don't necessarily feel like they're holding their breath when it 307 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: comes to newgent Now one miss will go back to that. 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: But I think he's been very efficient and he's definitely 309 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: given this team a lift on special teams. And when 310 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: he might miss knock on wood, he doesn't miss. But 311 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: if you're missing in the first quarter of the first half, 312 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel nearly as bad if it's the third quarter, 313 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, or overtime. So sometimes it's you know, hey, 314 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: if you're gonna lose a game, hey always lose earlier 315 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: in the season as opposed to late. If you're gonna 316 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: stumble or have a mistake, make sure it's earlier in 317 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: the game then later in the game, because what it is, 318 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: it's recency bias. What have you done for me lately 319 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: and right now? Mike Nugent is perfect. Yeah, and I 320 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: think they'll roll with him the rest of the season. 321 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully they get in the postseason, then off 322 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: to make a decision in the offseason. Obviously they're still 323 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: intrigue when seeing Gonzales. Maybe some time off, get him, 324 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: get him right. He's also dealing with an injury. So 325 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: in the perfect scenario, you roll with Nugent for the 326 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: remainder of the season and including the postseason. Well, we 327 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: know the Cardinals are going to roll with DeAndre Hopkins. 328 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: He is here for the foreseeable future. Let's hope that 329 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: he ends his career wearing a Cardinals uniform. But this 330 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: notes as far as what he was able to do 331 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: on Saturday got lost in the shuffle for good reason, 332 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: because you don't want to celebrate too much when you 333 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: have a defeat like that. But eight more catches for Hopkins, 334 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: although they were just for forty eight yards. Catch number seven, however, 335 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: set a new franchise single season record four receptions one 336 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: hundred and ten, which surpassed Larry Fitzgerald's mark of one 337 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: hundred and nine, which he did twice, first in twenty 338 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: fifteen and again in twenty seventeen. Overall, Hopkins one hundred 339 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: and eleven catches with one game left his career high 340 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: MJ one hundred and fifteen, which he set just two 341 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: years ago in twenty eighteen. And right now, I believe 342 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: he trails Stefan Diggs. Correct he is nine behind Diggs 343 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: as far as catches digs with one hundred and twenty 344 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: for fourteen hundred and fifty nine yards. Yeah, and you know, 345 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: I thought the Cardinals obviously didn't did not give up 346 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a first round pick, but you got to give a 347 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs a lot of credit because 348 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: that's been a big difference, even though they've had you know, 349 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and John Brown and they've used a different 350 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: couple of different running backs. But you know, let me 351 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: tell you a story real quick about story time with them. Ja. 352 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a lean back. But Okay, So you 353 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: know Omar Ruiz, who works for the NFL Network. He 354 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: covers basically the NFC West. He was out here during 355 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: training camp. He's got in laws, so he's able to 356 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: find a place to stay during COVID so he told 357 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: me he had a conversation with Brandon Beam. Brandon Beam 358 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: is the general manager of the Buffalo Bills, and there 359 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: was some talk about digs in Minnesota that he kind 360 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: of was able to beat to his own drum. When 361 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: he goes to Buffalo, he practices every day and he 362 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: goes against Tredavias White, and you know why because he 363 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: wants the competition and they go back and forth. So 364 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: on game day they're ready. Unfortunately for the Cardinals, a 365 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit different situation with DeAndre Hopkins. I think the 366 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals knew what they were getting. We know he shows 367 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: up on game day, but according to Bean, they create 368 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: competition in practice the number one wide receiver against a 369 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: guy that was a Pro Bowl player last year and 370 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: this year in Tredevious White. So their practice habits carry 371 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: over to the game. I hope that could be the 372 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: case next year for DeAndre Hopkins. Again, he doesn't miss games. 373 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: But you know a lot of conversations going on the 374 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: sidelines where in Buffalo they liked the competition and they 375 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: said their practices are spirited because it's offense first defense 376 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: and you watch them, you know, play against the Patriots. 377 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: They could have put up fifty on that they got. 378 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: They got the same quarterback in the same system for 379 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: three years. Sean mcdermot's done a great job. You gotta 380 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: liked what the Buffalo Bills have done. Now Miami is 381 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: going to be in that equation, but for the next 382 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: few years, what they're doing in the talent and they 383 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: give up a first round pick. I just hope at 384 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: some point hop and Kyler can get on the same 385 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: page so we're not having these conversations on game day. 386 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: Those conversations should take place during the week. And I 387 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: think a full offseason and I don't even know what 388 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: kind of an offseason to expect out of twenty twenty 389 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: one with respect to OTA's mini camp, all of that, 390 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: and then obviously if Hopkins can remain healthy for an 391 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: entire training camp, if all of that can happen in 392 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, then I think you will see that 393 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: Murray Hopkins relationship take a significant step forward. The bar 394 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: is already going to be set pretty high as far 395 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: as individual numbers with Hopkins, as far as catches and 396 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: receiving yards. But I think the one area in which 397 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: you would like to see more improvement on with Hopkins 398 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: is getting into the end zone. He only has six 399 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. Yeah, one word vaccine, fingers crossed, fingers cross 400 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Let the people in front of us then need it 401 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: in their frontline people. But the vaccine. Now, let's say 402 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: I also want to point this out. I know that 403 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: you know the injury report says Hopkins is not out 404 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: there if he's but he has been dealing with an 405 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: ankle injury, and I think it's because of early in 406 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the season he was getting those bubble screens and he 407 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: was getting tackled. It hasn't happened as much now, but 408 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: he was dealing with an injury. So, but there are 409 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: times on Thursdays that when we go out there, we 410 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: don't see him. I was told on Thursdays when the 411 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: media leagues, he comes out and he does certain packages. 412 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: He may have fifteen to twenty different plays that they 413 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: want to run with him. So there are times he's 414 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: out there. But again, I think both parties knew what 415 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: they were getting into. I just hope it can get better, 416 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: because you know, DeAndre Hopkins is one of the best 417 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers in football. He should be in the end 418 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: zone ten or twelve times. You know, all the other 419 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: guys haven't stepped up. Larry doesn't have the opportunities, Kirk's 420 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: been hit and miss. We know Hannity Isabelle has been inactive. 421 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Looks like Keyshawn Johnson probably is your fourth receiver. Dan 422 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: Arland's got a bigger role. But again, they have enough 423 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: talent on offense. The only guy they added in the 424 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: offseason was DeAndre Hopkins, and we've seen the offense move 425 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: the ball, We've seen more points this year. We've seen 426 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: this team lead the league in you know, total yards. 427 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: But it's about wins, not about individual awards. And it's 428 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: great at the end of the year in your career 429 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: you can go back and say I love the league 430 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: and touches and targets and you know anything else, but 431 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: it's about wins at the end of the day. Right now, 432 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: Hopkins by the way seconds and catches third and receiving 433 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: yards with one game to play, and as you mentioned, 434 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs leading the league in both of those categories. 435 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: So a great starting point for DeAndre Hopkins. And let's 436 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: just hope that they take it to the next step 437 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: next year. He's been everything he's been advertised. I mean, 438 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: going in the off season. It was Mike Thomas, who 439 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: hasn't played this year, Julio Jones, which we know they're 440 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: not winning games, but both of those guys move around 441 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: and in college your ex receiver, it makes total sense 442 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: because of the hash marks. I get it in college 443 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: here and give Kingsbury credit. And maybe he was by 444 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: default because they're running that much defense on Kyler Murray, 445 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: but they are moving them around. It's other guys got 446 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: to get separation and that's where this offense will start 447 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: to flow. But they keep telling them leaving points on 448 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: the field, and we see it. I mean, you can 449 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: go back and watch the game. Guys are open. Kyler's 450 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: going through his progressions, but he's getting pressure, so he's 451 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: got to get rid of the ball. But there's a 452 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: lot to build on here and he's come in here 453 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: and the uncanny ability to catch the ball at the 454 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: highest point reminds me of a young Larry Fitzgerald and 455 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: they're very similar. Different route runners a little bit. Larry 456 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: obviously never had speed, but he was able to get open. 457 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: And you gotta give Hopkins a lot of credit because 458 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: he's able to get open when he looks like he's 459 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: got two or three guys draped on him, and I 460 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: think it proved that and that Hail Mary passed against 461 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: the Bills. And it's when Murray, excuse me, and it's 462 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: when Hopkins doesn't come down with the catch that you're going, 463 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: what happened? Why didn't it happen? Because now we've become 464 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: so used to it, so accustomed to it because his 465 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: hands are so good. When he doesn't come down with 466 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: the ball, as he didn't against the forty nine ers, 467 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you're disappointed, but that it's a phenomenal 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: catch that very few, if any, outside of DeAndre Hopkins 469 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, And the main thing is is that 470 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: you know this guy, he doesn't miss games, and you 471 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: know every I don't think any players one hundred percent 472 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: right now, but you know, I'd like to see him 473 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: have a big game now. At the same time, they're 474 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: gonna put their number one corner who they gave up 475 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: multiple picks for and Jalen Ramsey, so it's gonna be 476 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: a tough matchup. But I do think if the Cardinals, 477 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, if if they're motivated, which they have to be, 478 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: what's at stake again, even though they haven't been able 479 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: to beat the Rams since Sean mcveigh's there. If you 480 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: win in Week seventeen and you get to the playoffs, 481 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: you know you'll say, what it's better to win that 482 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: game because we can't change what happened over the last 483 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: seven games. Speaking of motivation, as we continue here on 484 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: this Tuesday edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, 485 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Aarrowzona Cardinals, Hassan Reddick one and 486 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: a half sacks and one force fumble against the forty 487 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: nine ers. But it's what he has done through the 488 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: second half of this regular season. Because Reddick right now 489 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: MJ the only player to rank in the top five 490 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: and both sacks, force fumbles and tackles four loss. I 491 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: brought this up a week ago. His name remains among 492 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: those elite players in those respective categories, but his name 493 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: is the only one that shows up in all three categories. 494 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: Twelve and a half sacks, six force fumbles and fourteen 495 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: tackles for loss. Remarkable and it's unfortunate that it's happening. 496 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: You know, in the final year of his contract, the 497 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals didn't pick up his option, and nobody better than 498 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: I at the time. But now he's playing his natural position. 499 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: The coaches trust him, He's earned it, He's never complained, 500 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: and you just hope that you know he can continue 501 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: because they need him right now. When he's been able 502 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: to do is carry this football team getting to the 503 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: quarterback along with Marcus Golden and Dennis Gardeck and Gardecks 504 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: on the sholf right now. So he's got twelve and 505 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: a half. That's ninth for the Cardinals in a single season. 506 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Hopefully you can get here in a couple more because 507 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: that means they're getting to the quarterback. But you know, 508 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: you root for guys like Hassan Reddick because he's been 509 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: through a lot, and you know he's going to be 510 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: a free agent. We know the CAP's going down, so 511 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: you know the grass isn't always greener on the other side, 512 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: I think he loves being with the Cardinals now, he 513 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: loves his role. We'll just have to wait and see 514 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: how it plays out. But they're gonna need him in 515 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: this game to get after the quarterback. And the question 516 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: with Reddick moving forward even this week against the Rams, 517 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: is this who he is or is this just a 518 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: stretch of a season in which he has played great football? 519 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: Can you get this yearly, can you maybe not be 520 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: this extensive or this great every single week? But is 521 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: this who is san Reddick is? In the National Football League. 522 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: He's found a home as far as position, he's found 523 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: a home as far as vance Joseph and this defense, 524 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: or is this, as they say, a one hit wonder 525 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: Well it's a good question because there was a point 526 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: from week seven, maybe for about three or four weeks 527 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: that he didn't have a quarterback hit or a sack. 528 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: But he's getting much more playing time, and when you 529 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: get more playing time, you get more opportunities. And I 530 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: believe now when teams play the Cardinals, they have to 531 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: I D where number forty three is coming on. There's 532 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: no Chandler Jones, there's no Corey Peters. Obviously you're gonna 533 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: I D Buddha Baker and Patrick Peterson. But when it 534 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: comes out at front seven, I gotta think that's the guy. 535 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: And one thing he doesn't get credit for is his speed. 536 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: He's under size, but he gets to the ball and 537 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: he's become a much better tackler in the open field. 538 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: And the sacks. I know sometimes for you it's not 539 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: always wrapping up the quarterback, but are you getting him 540 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: off his spot? Are you disrupting the opposing team's offense, 541 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: and then are you getting the ball out? And those 542 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: four's fumbles six as I mentioned, second most in the league, 543 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: but they have all come in the last three games. 544 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's just a stretch here 545 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: or if he has found something, a move or whatever 546 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: that is really working for him, because you can knock 547 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: that ball out. Yeah, you don't always recover them, but 548 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: at least you're giving your teammates a chance or yourself 549 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: a chance to get the offense back on the field. Well, 550 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: we watch it in training camp when justs are open 551 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: for the most part. I mean they have certain drills 552 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: German camp where they basically ask you to stab at 553 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: the ball and you get close and stab at the ball. 554 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: And I think Chandler and Jones has mat and manufactured 555 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: it and it's contagious, but they do work on this 556 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: stuff in practice where if you get close to the quarterback, 557 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: put your arm out there. Yeah you like to wrap 558 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: him up and get the sack. Put your arm out there. 559 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: You're going to force a fumble and hopefully it's gonna 560 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: help your offense get really good field position on the 561 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: other side. And as we've said a lot here on 562 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, it is an easy guy talking about 563 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: Reddick to root for because one, you want him to 564 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: be successful. Now selfishly, you hope one it continues for 565 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: one more game and then into the postseason and of 566 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: course obviously next season. But that will be a conversation 567 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: to have in the offseason because it will be one 568 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: of the top questions to be asked with regards to 569 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: this Arizona Cardinals team, offense, defense or special teams. What 570 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: do you do with a son Reddick? Given how well 571 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: he has played well, I think it's going to come 572 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: down to who do you prefer in the future, Marcus 573 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: Golden and her son Reddick. Now, Golden's had some injuries, 574 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: but he's been healthy to the last couple of years. 575 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Son Reddick, you know, he's had some injuries, you know, 576 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: the ankle injury, which obviously missed time in camp last year, 577 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: and they're moving him around a little bit. You know, 578 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: it's a tough decision. I mean, in the perfect world, 579 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: you bring them both back to pair with Chandler Jones, 580 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: who's in the final year of his contract. What do 581 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: they do with Kennard, He's on a two year deal. 582 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: He's playing a little bit more now, he's set in 583 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: the edge like he did earlier this season. I guess 584 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: it's a good dilemma. And again, the salary CAP's going down, 585 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: so you can't afford all of them. Consider you're gonna 586 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: you got Chandler Jones in the final year. I would 587 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: think he's a priority now he is coming off an injury. 588 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Does he want two or three year deal? I guess 589 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 1: they'll figure that out in the off season, but they 590 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: also could put the tag on him, but they're gonna 591 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: have to make a decision. I don't know if you 592 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: can resign both In the perfect scenario with the cap 593 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: going up, which is not going to happen, I think 594 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: he would be able to do that. And then I'll 595 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: also there's a draft and you know, young players, so 596 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough decision, and I think 597 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: it's really going to come down to Marcus Cold or 598 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick. Yeah. I do not envy the Cardinals front 599 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: office when it comes to this offseason because of what 600 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: you just mentioned, a lower salary cap and everyone wanting 601 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: to get as much as they possibly can and I 602 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: don't fault anyone, yet at the same time, you have 603 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: to be smarts and a low and know that you know, 604 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: not everyone can be paid at what they think they're worth, 605 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and there might be a big difference between the elite players, 606 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: and then of course the rookies. Is those guys in 607 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: the middle that might get lost in the shuffle in 608 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Yeah, I believe some veterans are gonna 609 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: get squeezed. And now the question becomes, if you're a 610 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Son Reddick and you said, is this a one one 611 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: year wonder, a one hit wonder, Well, maybe it's best 612 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: to sign a one year deal. But he's in a 613 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: position where he's made money being a first round pick 614 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: thirteenth overall. You know, Marcus Golden obviously was trying to 615 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: go out and get a deal the last two years 616 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and he didn't get it. So these guys careers, they're 617 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: not for ten or twelve, fourteen years. I mean, the 618 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: average player in the nfls three and a half. And 619 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: they both have checked that box. But based on the 620 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: financing side of the business, and you can loader up 621 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: within sentence, maybe you sign a one year deal. Now 622 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: you're getting older and you got to stay healthy and 623 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: then you try to cash in when the capitol is up, 624 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: because it's all about the business side of the NFL 625 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to a salary cap Bird Gang a 626 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: reminder update to the Lettuce version of the Cardinals mobile 627 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: app today. The update features and all new redesign homescreen experience. 628 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Visit asy cardinals dot com slash app for more. As 629 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: we continue here on this Tuesday Cardinals Cover two presented 630 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: by Unday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Typically on Tuesday, 631 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: as we go through the entire NFC West, how the 632 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: teams do the past week, and then of course update 633 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs standings. I think everyone knows where things stand 634 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: with respect to the playoffs, But real quick, the NFC 635 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: looks like this Packers, Saints, Seahawks, Washington Buccaneers, Rams, Bears, 636 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals on the outside looking in. Win this weekend their end. 637 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: Rams can back their way in even with the loss, 638 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: provided the Bears lose at home to the Packers. Now 639 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Green Bay with a lot to play for, they want 640 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: that number one seed. In fact, the Packers, Saints, and 641 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks all can get that number one seed. For the Packers, 642 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: it's very simple when and they're the number one seed 643 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: or they can get it with a Seahawks loss at 644 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco Saints for them to get that top seed, 645 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: win at Carolina, have the Packers lose, Have the Seahawks 646 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: win for Seattle to get that number one seed. Beat 647 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers at State Farm Stadium, have the 648 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Packers lose, have the Saints lose or tie at Carolina. 649 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: So that is why we kind of know who's going 650 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. We just don't know wherever one 651 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: is going to be situated as far as seedings are concerned. Yeah, 652 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: in that game against see forty nine ers, we had 653 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. Correct, it's turning at the same time 654 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: as years when the Cardinals and the Los Angeles Rams. 655 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Now in the Seahawks this year, seven and one at home, 656 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: four and three on the road, they're eight and three 657 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: in the NFC just like just like a lot of 658 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC West or three and two in 659 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: the division. Nobody's really running the league with it like 660 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: the Niners last year. Now, one thing I want to 661 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: say about the Seahawks, even though they didn't win against 662 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: the Giants, that was a huge upset. The Giants go 663 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: to Seattle and they beat them seventeen twelve. But Craig 664 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: over the last four games, and you can even go further, 665 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: but let's look at the last four games, good sample size. 666 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: They give about nine points to the Rams, fifteen to 667 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: the Washington football team, three to the Jets, and the 668 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: lost seventeen at home to the Giants, and then it 669 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: only gave up seventeen to the Eagles, twenty one to 670 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, twenty three they lost the game to the Rams. 671 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: So over the last four or five weeks, there's a 672 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: reason why the Seahawks held the Rams to nine points 673 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. It's the defense and what they have done. 674 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: They have done a one eighty with that defense. If 675 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: you want to credit Carlos done Up and his edition. Great. 676 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is really playing well and playing well up 677 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage as far as getting into 678 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: the backfield. But we talked several weeks in a row 679 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: about how bad the Seahawks defense was, and they were 680 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: trending to be the worst passing defense in the league 681 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: and in league history. Yet they've turned it around fifteen 682 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: points a game. They ranked third in yards per game, 683 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: sixth in passing yards per game, just over the last 684 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: four to five weeks. And that is why right now 685 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: they're at eleven and four, third seed in the NFC, 686 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: within an opportunity to get that number one seed and 687 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: home field advantage. And honestly, I didn't think any team 688 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC West would finish with twelve wins this year. 689 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: I really didn't. I knew. I thought San Francisco come 690 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: back to Earth. I've been preaching since the offseason it's 691 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: time to jump the Rams, and they got an opportunity 692 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: to do that on Sunday. Yep, because you gotta you 693 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: don't want to finish in fourth place every year. San 694 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: Francisco is going to be in fourth to move up 695 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: the ladder. And you've got to give the Seahawks a 696 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: lot of cardit. Ever since they drafted Russell Wilson and 697 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, they've been kind of the team. Now, as 698 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: for the conference in the division, excuse me, the Cardinals 699 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: have made a Super Bowl, the Rams had made the 700 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the Seahawks have made a Super Bowl, and 701 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: last year the San Francisco fourty nine ers made the 702 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So the division has been well represented now 703 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: where that they win or lose when they get there's 704 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: another story. Now you bring up the forty nine ers. 705 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: They're going to close out the season against the Seahawks, 706 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: a game that is meaningless. They have been eliminated for 707 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: the postseason, although as we saw against don't tell them that. Yeah, 708 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: they put a whooping on the Cardinals. But an opportunity 709 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers to get to seven and 710 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 1: nine and four and two in the division, which would 711 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: be the best mark of any team. They can finished 712 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: with the best record in the division yet be the 713 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: only team in the division not to make the postseason. 714 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: That is what twenty twenty is all about with the 715 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. But we do know this that Trent 716 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: Williams suffered a sprained elbow. He is not going to 717 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: play this week. Wide receiver Brandon nayooke high ankle spraying 718 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: he will not play this week, and Richard Sherman, who 719 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: was on the sidelines for the Cardinals game, will not 720 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: play again this week. So they continue to drop like flies, 721 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: so to speak. Yet who comes in to replace them? 722 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: The coaching staff has coached them up real well. They 723 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: understand the opportunity that has given them with those extra 724 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: snaps or perhaps a start and taking advantage of it. 725 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: So I do not believe for one second that the 726 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers are just going to lay low and 727 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: let the Seahawks win on Sunday, because the forty nine ers, hey, 728 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: you're in the role of spoilers, so to speak. You 729 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: spoil the Cardinals last week, why not the Seahawks this week? Yeah, 730 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: and that's the last thing you want to do as 731 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: a Seahawks lose a game before you get into the postseason. 732 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: Based on how they've eve been playing. Now, their record 733 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: at home is one in six. Okay, we know they've 734 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: been on the road away from the stating they're five 735 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: and three, and of course they didn't beat the Cardinals. 736 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: You look at their record in the NFC four and seven, 737 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, one of the better records in 738 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: the Division three and two. You know, it's a situation 739 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: where and now you're starting to see reports that Jimmy 740 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: Garoppolo could be the guy. They showed a win loss 741 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: record between all the backup quarterbacks and when Garoppolo's in there, 742 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: they win a lot more games. Now it's a matter 743 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: of do they think he can take into their promised 744 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: land like they did a year ago. Yeah, twenty two 745 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: and eight, the forty nine ers are in regular season 746 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: games in which Garoppolo starts just seven and twenty six 747 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: in games he does not since joining the forty nine 748 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. And remember Nick Mullins is a restrictive 749 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: free agency jaf Bethard unrestricted. You've got Josh Rosen right 750 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: now on the roster. But that is a huge question, 751 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: not only for the forty nine ers, but I think 752 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: for everyone else within the division. What does San Francisco 753 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 1: do at the quarterback position? Do they stick with Jimmy 754 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: Garoppolo or do they move on? And if they move on, 755 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: who are they moving to? Yeah, because they honestly and 756 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: admitted they flirted with Tom Brady last year. Now again, 757 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: obviously Lennon in a good spot. But you start looking 758 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: at it, you know, you look at the quarterbacks in 759 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: the division. Still give Russell Wilson a nod. You know, 760 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: garoppolos won more games than Murray. They've both been to 761 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl golf, Wilson and Garoppolo. But I think 762 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is starting to climb the ladder from being 763 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: in the seller as a rookie to a second year 764 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks in the division, and that's 765 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: something to look forward to in the future. Well just 766 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: two years in, and I would put Murray behind Russell 767 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: Wilson if I'm going to rank these quarterbacks or say, hey, 768 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: who do I want to go to battle with? Would 769 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: I want to build my team around next season with 770 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe Golf 771 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: and Garoppolo. You could flip back and forth depending on 772 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: who you think can help you better in terms of 773 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: what the offense you want to run. But I would 774 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: agree Murray. It hasn't always been easy. It hasn't always 775 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: been and maybe the trajectory that we had hoped here 776 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: in year two, but I don't think you can discount 777 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: the progress that he has made. No, it's not a 778 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or a Lamar Jackson MVP type second season 779 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: as a starter, but is certainly a step in that direction. Yeah, 780 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: And probably the reason why the Rams and Niners have 781 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: to make this decision because they really paid those quarterbacks 782 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of money and then you got dead money 783 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: against the Caps. So it's not just with their production 784 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: and their win loss record, it's how much they're going 785 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: to colin against the Caps, So that's the way they 786 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: can get out of it. But what they did, including 787 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson, getting these guys on their rookie deals, 788 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: they're able to make a run to the super Bowl. 789 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: And that's what the Cardinals goal is in the next 790 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: couple of years before Kylin Murray's making thirty five or 791 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: for forty million a year. And that's why this season 792 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: is so important to get to the postseason, if nothing else, 793 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: get a taste of what it takes to get to 794 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: that next level and then build off of that because 795 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, once that second contract kicks in, then 796 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: it becomes harder to build around your franchise quarterback. And 797 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray brought it up earlier this season 798 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: when he was asked about, you know, taking your time 799 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: and building towards the future, and you know he's very competitive, 800 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: wants to win now. And it's more than just that. 801 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: In the National Football League, you have to take advantage 802 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: of these years that you have when your quarterback is 803 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: not taking up twenty five thirty percent of the salary 804 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: cap That's why, to a certain extent, I would agree 805 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: with people who think that twenty twenty would be considered 806 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: a failure. If you don't make the postseason because you 807 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: are losing time and now you're two years into a 808 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: four year rookie contract or five years when that fifth 809 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: year option is picked up. You have to be able 810 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: to take steps forward, and you don't want it to 811 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: be wasted steps. You just want to go from out 812 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: of the playoffs to end of the playoffs. Well, I 813 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: mean the fact that Kyler Murray can be in the 814 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: postseason in his second year. I mean, and again they're 815 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: still learning that this is as far from the finished product. 816 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the skill now it's a matter 817 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: of execution. But if he gets into the postseason in 818 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: his second year, I mean, I know at the beginning 819 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: of the year, I thought a seven or nine win team. 820 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: Everyone said that Cardinals were going to be a sleeper team, 821 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: a surprise team. I don't know if anyone ever picked 822 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: him to go to the postseason though, So this is 823 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: part of the process. And then Cliff says, they're still 824 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: not there yet. But listen, you got one game left, 825 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: and if you win that, you play in the postseason, 826 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: and the next year is going to be a big 827 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: deal because now you're talking about that third year. You know, 828 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's been in that same system for three years. 829 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, even though he didn't start the first year, 830 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: he's been in there for three plus years. Lamar Jackson, 831 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. That's when you take that next jump. So 832 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: if you're a seven to nine win team, or within 833 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: this case, a nine win team, next year you go 834 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: ten or eleven, and that's progress. And I think they've 835 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: definitely made progress this year, even though the record may 836 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: not reflect it. Look at the numbers and again, at 837 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's really about wins and losses. 838 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: It has been a little rough around the edges here 839 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, but bottom line, the Cardinals are in 840 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: a position to make twenty twenty very successful. Despite the 841 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: roller coaster ride, this team has taken everyone on from 842 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: week one to now week sixteen. And we'll leave you 843 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: with this, Justin Pugh earlier today, quote there's more on 844 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: the line here than just us feeling bad. People won't 845 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: have jobs if we don't make the playoffs. We know 846 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: what's at stake end quote win or go home when 847 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: and you're in. We're gonna hear a lot of this 848 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: throughout the entire week, but it's very simple. The Cardinals 849 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: are in position to do something they have not done 850 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen. Yeah, and it's been five years, and 851 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: it's been some lean years. I mean, we were kind 852 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: of spoiled with Carson Palmer and Bruce Arians and the 853 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals had a venturing team and they were ready to compete. 854 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: The first year they finished ten and six, didn't make 855 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then obviously the next couple of years 856 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: and they were thirteen and three and it hasn't been 857 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: the same since. And you know, but now you kind 858 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: of had to hit the reset button by are in 859 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: Kingsbury and bringing in Murray and moving on from Josh Rosen. 860 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: So it's a process. And you know, let me tell 861 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: you this, this is a stat that people are gonna 862 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, how many playoff wins. Lamar Jackson 863 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: has one one playoff win. Kyler Murray gets this game, 864 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: he's gonna get a chance for the playoffs. I mean, 865 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, when you make a run to the super Bowl, 866 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: that's three or four wins. Lamar Jackson has one playoff win, 867 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Josh Allen has none, but he's 868 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get an opportunity. And being a two 869 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: seat Baker Mayfield none, He's gonna get an opportunity. And 870 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: that's what you want, opportunities, and we hope Kyler Murray 871 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: will have that opportunity as well. Post Week seventeen, much 872 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: more on the Cardinals and Rams tomorrow when we really 873 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: dive into what we think is the major storyline this week, 874 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: and that would be the Cardinals offense against the Rams defense. 875 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: But more on that tomorrow here on Cardinals Cover two. 876 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 877 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: this Tuesday edition of Cardinals Cover two. Pers did by Hunday, 878 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 879 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Almandro. For Mike Jarecki, I'm 880 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: Craig Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time here 881 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two