1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Helman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. Good, it's Wednesday. It is Wednesday, August nineteenth, 8 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode number fifteen. Welcome to another 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: edition of The Break we are. I am actually live 10 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: from my home. This is the virtual s WBC Morrigan Studios, 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: joined by Nick Eatman, Amburg Garcia, Dave Helman. They're all 12 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: in their homes as well. And I'm sorry Nick, you're 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: at the office. Actually on a day when the players 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: are not at the office. Nick still is at the office. 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: That tells you a lot about his work ethic. We 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Nick. We're gonna talk some Cowboys football for 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: you guys to day, and we appreciate you guys taking 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: some time out of your day to join us for that. 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: And we're gonna start with I think what has been 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: probably the biggest news coming out of Cowboys camp since 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: camp begin. Joe McCoy had a very very busy last 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: few days. On Monday he tore us quad or the 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: ligament tous quad in practice on Monday. Then on Tuesday 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: he had surgery, and then Tuesday afternoons he's waved injured. Nick, 25 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. You broke the story for us. 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Tell me why he was waved, because I know a 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: lot of fans were sitting there looking at that and thinking, wow, 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: this is this pretty that seems pretty pretty mean. I 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: guess it for lack of a better way to put it, 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: But why was he waved? Well, I think he had 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: to go back all the way to win. He was signed. 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: When he was signed, they put a waiver into his 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: under the contract to say that if something happens with 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: the right quad, we can get out of this contract. 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: And first paded practice something really severe happens with the 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: right quad. So something is weird there. I don't ever 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: remember seeing an injury waiver on a specific body part 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: like that. I guess, you know, coming back from the 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: injuries or whatever. But we didn't think that this was 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: going to be something that you would they would be 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: watching and then the you know, ten minutes after the 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: first pads come on, that happens, So they exercised their 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: right to do that. They put it in there for 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: a reason. It saves them about three and a half 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: million to four million over the next couple of years. 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: So if you if you know you have a chance 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: to save some money, and then it happens that way, 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: you're going to save it. So that that's I think 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah, it's interesting if that would be in 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: the contract with specific language even about it. That makes 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: you makes you think, or at least makes me think 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: that there was some concern from the standpoint of the Cowboys, 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: and I guess an acknowledgement on the part of the 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: representatives of Gerald mccoyd that this was something that maybe 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: could happen. I don't know if it was a previous 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: injury or just something that they noticed in a physical 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: but but obviously something there for them to put that 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: in the contract. Dave and Amber talk a little bit 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: about about kind of how the Cowboys move from here. 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Let's start with you. Dave, talk to me about the replacement. 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: What could the Cowboys do at this point to replace 62 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: production that they thought they were going to be getting 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: a guy who is a proven veteran in that position, 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: a three technique and even defensive end. When they moved 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: two or three four, talk to me about how they 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: can to maybe replace him. You know, it's kind of 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: funny to me that, Like, I mean, it's a fair question. 68 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking you, but like that's the talking point. 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, whatever will they do? As 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: if they didn't spend the last two drafts addressing the position, 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: and that just goes to show how much people don't 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: trust what they've done. Tristan Hill's the top sixty draft pick, 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore's the top one hundred draft pick. Ninety nine 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: percent of time. You look at that and say, all right, 75 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: they're covered pretty well. But nobody has forgotten how disappointing 76 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: Tristan's rookie season was, nor should they. So I don't 77 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: blame people if they don't feel great about it. But 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: you have two highly talented young players that can step 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: into that. And when you had Gerald, it was a luxury. 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: You know, you're like, well, whatever they can give us 81 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: is great, and that luxury is now gone. One of 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: those guys has to step up. So I look at 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, the next two or so a week, says, 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: a big time audition for both of those guys, and 85 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: if they're not up to it, maybe you try to 86 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: go hunt around for a veteran. But I think for 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: the time being, you just throw those guys in the 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: fire and see what they can do. You know, I 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: would agree with you, Dave on the point of of 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: you would normally think a second and third round pick 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: would be natural fits there, that you would just lean 92 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: on them. But it wasn't like they signed Gerald McCoy 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: to a one year deal. I'm sorry, I say no, 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: I can get that you're right, but that also goes 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: on a point like they didn't go out and signed 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy to a to a one year deal. They 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: signed him to a three year deal, which suggests to 98 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: me that they wanted him here for the next several years, 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: and they wanted those guys in a rotation. They thought 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: there was a role for Gerald Gerald McCoy in addition 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: to what those other guys could possibly bring. And so 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: that's where I wonder, you know, do they or should 103 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: they consider maybe going out and looking for a veteran 104 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: replacement or just stick with what they have because there 105 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: isn't really much out there right now. I mean, first 106 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: of all, yeah, and in terms of a pass rushing 107 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, they're in a lot there for you. I know, 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you know a lot of a lot of people are 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: going to bring up Snacks Harrison and I don't like, 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a bad idea, but Snacks's whole, 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: Like Snacks is Don Taripoe. They are the same type 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: of player. They are the gigantic run stuffing, space eating 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Rushing the passer isn't really their bag. I 114 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: think Snacks would make this team better, but it's also 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: that gives you three, you know, one technique early down 116 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: run stopping, non pass rushing tackles to go with Poe 117 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: and Antoine Woods. And if you can only keep nine 118 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: or ten, at what point does that become superfluous? Because 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: in terms of guys that can rush the passer, you 120 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: have Gallimore or Tristan Hill. We know Tyrone Crawford can 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: do a little bit of it. I think Alden Smith 122 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: and Everson Griffin can both kick inside and a pinch. 123 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: So it doesn't seem necessary right now. After one injury, 124 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean, injuries happen all the time, So like I said, 125 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: I think your best bet right now, until they prove 126 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: they're not capable of doing it, is to hope that 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: the young guys can step up. The problem with that, David, 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: it's like, how do you get a chance to actually 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: really truly prove that without preseason games? And that's my thing, 130 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: like if I think they should be looking around right 131 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: now and see who else they can possibly bring in 132 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: here just to add extra help. And you know, you 133 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: tend to forget about the possibility of injuries at least 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: I know I do, until it actually happens and you're like, 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: oh crap, this happens. Let me look further deep down 136 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: into the position. And you know, we know that Dntari 137 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: Poe he's coming back, But now that's in the back 138 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: of my head at least you know, oh, he's coming 139 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: off an injury. Is he gonna be able to hold up? 140 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: What are these younger guys gonna be able to do? 141 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Can they show enough during this time without preseason sorry, 142 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: without preseason games. So that's the biggest thing right now 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: for me. It's just I'm being so extra critical at 144 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: this moment just because I know we don't get the 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: chance to see preseason games. Okay, so let's do this. 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Let's go across the board. I want to eat you 147 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: guys to tell me how big of a loss do 148 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: you think this is for this Cowboys can team as 149 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: it's currently constructed. Nicho, Let's start with you. I think 150 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: it's a big loss actually because I think he was 151 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: supposed to come in and really help be a locker 152 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: room guy as well. So you know, like you guys 153 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: are saying the backups, you know, they didn't know what 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: they really wanted Antoine Woods, I mean, there was a 155 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: lot of took a while to get him to, I mean, 156 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: come back in. I guess he wanted a long term deal. 157 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: But anyways, I think it's a big loss because I 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: just think that there's so much uncertainty there. There's uncertainty 159 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: with Poe Crawford's not really a natural tackle, so until 160 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: they get somebody else in here, I think it is 161 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: a great, pretty big loss. Hamber Well, I just I 162 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: just said it's huge. I think that the Cowboys already need, 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: especially this year because of the circumstances, they already need 164 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: of someone who's a veteran guy who has the experience. 165 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Who do you you don't need to feel some concern 166 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: about whether or not you can plug the guy in 167 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: and have that guy be able to perform at the 168 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: level that you want them too. So I think that 169 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the veteran need right now is very high, and they 170 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: just lost that Dave. It's it is what it is. 171 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I'm not going to try to say 172 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: it's not a big loss. I agree with Nick. I mean, 173 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: I think what McCoy would have brought to the table 174 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: from a locker room culture standpoint, I don't think you 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: can underestimate that, especially with two young guys like Gallamore 176 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: and Hill. Fortunately, McCoy said on Instagram last night that 177 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: he's not playing on going anywhere. I mean, he can't 178 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: go come in the building because he's not on the 179 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: team anymore and because of COVID. But he's gonna he's 180 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: gonna stay mentoring these guys, stay in touch. So that's nice. Um. 181 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, one defensive tackle is not going to be 182 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the difference between whether or not this team is successful. 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: This team's success is almost entirely predicated on how good 184 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: its offense is. And I absolutely wish Jerald McCoy was 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: on the team. But I'm not changing my preseason projections 186 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: for them based on that. But we talked about this 187 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: last week too, that you know, adding ever seen Griffin. 188 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean that with d Law that's not a whole 189 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: lot different than what they had last year with Robert Quinn. 190 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Maybe Griffin is better, but you know, they're about the same. 191 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: What I thought was going to be different was to 192 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: push from the inside, and dant Folk still bring that. 193 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: But you know, you were hoping it would be McCoy 194 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: and and Poe and you know, maybe Crawford gets in there, 195 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: but you know it's it's but then again, it's a 196 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: completely different defense. We're seeing that in practice right now. 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: You can tell that it's not going to be the 198 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: same defense. They're asking these guys to do different things 199 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: than what they did last year. Well, Nick, I will 200 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: say this, I do think Alden Smith. I do think 201 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Alden Smith adds a little bit more to that because, 202 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: as Day said a little earlier, I think he can 203 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: pop down. I think Griffin can pop down. So when 204 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: you start talking about pass rush situations third down, you're 205 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: probably gonna have all three of those guys, all three 206 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: of those pass rushers on the field, maybe Tyrone, Tyrone, 207 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: Crawford as the fourth and so I still think you'll 208 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: get that kind of push up the middle because you 209 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: got some guys that are really dynamic type players, you 210 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: hope at least that you can have down their defensive tackle. 211 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that though. I'm not and 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: I could just still see the touchdown Tyler Luckett scored 213 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: against Seattle. I'm just not a fan of putting d 214 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Law inside or Alden Smith inside. It's just like asking 215 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: a running back to play receiver. You're not doing what 216 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: they do best. And so by putting him down, just 217 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: because they can rush their passer off the edge doesn't 218 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: mean they can go in there and beat the Zach 219 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Martin's of the world in the middle. So he's some 220 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: rare I mean, not everybody's J. J. Watt and JPP 221 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: that could go and do all that. So I'm just 222 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: not a big fan of putting outside rushers and the 223 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: inside like that. I mean, I never saw a d 224 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: Ware do that. But yeah, I just say I would 225 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: say that all three of those guys, in my opinion, 226 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: are at least what you would call premier pass rushers 227 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Maybe they aren't as good at defensive tackle. 228 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: I do think that their speed, and in particular Alton Smith. 229 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's huge. I think he's about two 230 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: eighty five or two eighty something like that. He's a 231 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: really big guy to be playing defensive end. So I 232 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: think sliding him into defensive tackle, I think you get 233 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: the speed of what he could do on the outside 234 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: that can be disruptive there. But I think he also 235 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: has that power in that big body that can also 236 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: manage to be playing a defensive tackle. He's gonna get 237 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem. He's he's already a finalist 238 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: for Comeback Player of the Year, and I don't know 239 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: if he's gonna win it. We'll see what happens, but 240 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a finalist right now. He's a problem. 241 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Tymon Smith will tell you if you if you ever 242 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: talk to the media, he'll tell you, which, Yeah, that 243 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of goes to my point. I mean, I'm not 244 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: trying to convince anybody that it's not a big deal 245 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: that Gerald McCoy is out. But they got they got bodies, 246 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: and they have two supposedly very talented young guys. If 247 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: they can just get something from one of them, it 248 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be both. Just get something from 249 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: one of those guys and it'll it'll be okay. It 250 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be you know, it's not gonna be the 251 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: best defensive line in the league, but it'll be. It'll 252 00:12:42,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: be okay. We'll save actually that conversation for it looks 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: like rams some issues with with Derek. Just real quick, 254 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: let's have my background. Now he's back, they come back. 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: Now I think I'm back up. Um, I don't know why. No, Well, 256 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I guess what I was going to ask you guys 257 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: was Um, we've heard we've heard some of the questions 258 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: that are happened from coach Um as well as some 259 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: of the players about the fact that that they think 260 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: that there's going to be uh, some that they may 261 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: kind of switch between four three three four, they may 262 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: do a little bit of both. Uh. There really hasn't 263 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: been a commitment to one or the other. So that 264 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: being said, talk to me about where you think this 265 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: loss may be a potential bigger loss with Gerald McCoy 266 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: now being waived. Um, when you talk about those other 267 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: two guys and the other guys that are left on 268 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: the defensive line, do you think this can affect the 269 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys and maybe push them in one direction or the 270 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: other four three verses three four. But sorry with you 271 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Amber this, why are we still talking about this? I 272 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: get so upset at this subject. I mean, honestly, these 273 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: guys and you guys sound so comfortable. I guess even 274 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the way that Dave was speaking of how he feels 275 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: with what they got right now and the possibility of 276 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: these other guys being able to step up. But to me, 277 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm at a point where I'm like, I'm done trying 278 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: to convince myself at the beginning of the year. Now, 279 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to show it to me, you 280 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: need to make it happen. I don't care what they do, 281 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: whether it's a three four four three. They're gonna figure 282 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: out what the guys that they currently have and see 283 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: what they can actually do and make it work. I 284 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: think that the size matters alive. For Sorry, I'm I'm 285 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: getting carried away with other things. I'm sorry. I apologize 286 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: for the unprofessionalism. Size matters a lot when he comes 287 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: down to picking out this position and what you're gonna 288 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: do there. But don't ask me about three four or 289 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: four three. Don't care, all right? I respect that I 290 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: want to you know, you know, Mike McCarthy, if you're 291 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: watching this, don't don't get mad at me. I'm not 292 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: trying to give your game away, but I want to. 293 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: I want to point something out I guess, which is 294 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: that what we've seen to this point mainly is Alden 295 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Smith and DeMarcus Lawrence rushing the passer from a two 296 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: point stance, not necessarily a three to four because it's 297 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: a four man front still like there's still there's a 298 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: one technique and a three technique in there. Usually when 299 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: it's happening, it's not this you know, massive crazy change 300 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: to a three four front with a true nose tackle 301 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: a zero technique for that matter. Dan Tari Poe, the 302 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: guy who fits that role the best, has not practiced yet. 303 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: So obviously they have the personnel to do that. But 304 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to give people the wrong idea that 305 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: they're running all these different fronts. It's a four man front. 306 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: They're just rushing there there ends from a two point stance. 307 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: So we you know, it's been different, don't get me wrong, 308 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: but it hasn't been this crazy, crazy departure um so, 309 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: and I think that's going to continue to be the case. 310 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a different presentation of 311 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: what we're already used to. For the most part, in 312 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, disagree though, Dave, because I think it's not 313 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: just a four man front. I mean it's really a 314 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: five man front when you think of the defensive line, 315 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: because I still think of Alden Smith as a defensive 316 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: lineman and Griffin and d Law and those guys as 317 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: d lyneen. So when they're both out there standing up, 318 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, I don't really call that 319 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: a four man front, you know, because well, I mean 320 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: it's it's from what we've seen. We saw a dose 321 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: tackle which will probably be Poe, but we hadn't seeing 322 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: that yet. But it was McCoy and it was it 323 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: was Crawford and in d Law and all the spen 324 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: A's five because you're only seeing two linebackers. But I 325 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: mean it's not like they're just playing one thing. I mean, 326 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: we what Dave saw, he saw, I saw some other things. 327 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: There's Nickel, there's time. That's why that's why they don't 328 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: want us talking about all this stuff. That's why none 329 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: coach wants that, because they're just trying out different things. Yes, 330 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: there'll be four man fronts. There'll be three four looks, 331 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: there'll be four three votes, they'll be five two looks, 332 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: they'll be all of that. That's what Mike Nolan's known for. Yeah, 333 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: and I would suspect I would suspect that they're going 334 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: to be times when And this is just kind of 335 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: the whole idea of using a three four versus four 336 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: three defense. You can flip to a two four five 337 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: where you're in nickel where you only have two down 338 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: linemen and you have four linebackers, and you're considering those 339 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: two outside guys linebackers at that point, right, But I 340 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: get what you're saying, David's still it would still be 341 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: in those kind of scenarios a four man front. Look, 342 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: the point is I'm wondering, is Gerald McCoy being gone, 343 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: how does that affect their ability to be able to 344 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: have a three man front versus a four man front, 345 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: because obviously you're talking about defensive tackles. Their roles changed 346 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: quite a bit when you talk about four three verses 347 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: three four, And that's where I'm a little more trying 348 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: to get to a you know what you guys think 349 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: about this, Ken Tristan Hill or Gallimore stant can they 350 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: play let's say, defensive end in a three to four 351 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: as well as play a three technique in a four three. 352 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: That's where I'm trying to figure out where they where. 353 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: You think there's a bigger loss of Gerald McCoy. You know, 354 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: it makes me kind of wonder with this scheme. It 355 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: makes me wonder why they didn't have a lot of 356 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: interest in bringing back Malie Collins. I think he would 357 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: have been a good fit for this. But you know, 358 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: they know more than me, obviously, But I just I'm 359 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: not really sure how the McCoy injuries going to affect everything. 360 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't know who they've got to replace that spot. 361 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I think Tyrone Crawford, though, can somewhat do it, especially 362 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: if it's kind of a I've always thought Crawford could 363 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: play free four defensive end so well, that's why he 364 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: was broad here a million billion years ago. I mean, yeah, 365 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: I think Tyrone can do it. Honestly, I think Antoine 366 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: Woods could probably do it. He's not not ideal by 367 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: any I mean, Antoine Woods is not ideal to play 368 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: on the defensive line in the NFL, but he makes 369 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: it work. Um. I think they could both do it. 370 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: I think I mean, well, Hill and Gallimore, they got 371 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: to have a quick first step. I think they could 372 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: be able to do that. They're always talking about the 373 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: flexibility of a lot of these guys out of that 374 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: whole group, in the whole line. Who would be a 375 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: guy that you guys think that they absolutely need to 376 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: stick to one specific role and don't have that kind 377 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: of flexibility to be moved around. Oh yeah, he's honestly though, 378 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: he could probably play three four in Indo if they 379 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: needed him to. I'll be you'd prefer he played, but 380 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: he probably could. He has played quarterback. So as long 381 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: as adown fast, as long as DeMarcus and Alden Smith 382 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: are able to rush off the edge, just do whatever 383 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: else you gotta do to make it work. That's, you 384 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: know the other. The other thing I'm really wondering that 385 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: on that point, Dave is like, once you get um 386 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin in the mix, I wonder how they look 387 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: at that. Do they look at this and say, you 388 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: know how we talked. We had this conversation a lot 389 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: about offensive lineman. Where you want your best five players 390 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: out there, even if two of those players could probably 391 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: play the same position, you kind of fit that one 392 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: into another position because he's just one of your best five. 393 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: I wonder if they look at this and they say, 394 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, Everson Griffin, Alden Smith, and DeMarcus Lawrence are 395 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: three of our top four defensive linemen. How can we 396 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: get all four of them on the field at the 397 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: same time as much as possible? And I wonder if 398 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: that means that one of those three ends up now 399 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: switching predominantly to another position in order to keep those 400 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: guys on the field more frequently. Not saying it will happen, 401 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. It kind of goes to my point. 402 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: And I mean, Griffin hasn't practiced yet. He just cleared protocol. 403 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: He just he's barely done anything. He's not practicing. But 404 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: you got Griffin, Poe, Tank, Alden Smith, Tyrone Crawford, and 405 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: then two you know, highly drafted rookies, one of which 406 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: you would think can contribute, like they got bodies and 407 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: talented bodies at that. So it definitely sucks that McCoy 408 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: is not out there. But I just I'm not gonna 409 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: talk myself into thinking it's gonna sink their season that 410 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: he can't play. All Right, We're gonna go and take 411 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: our first break, we come back, we're gonna get into 412 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: some camp observations. 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I'm live 448 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: from the virtual s WBC Mortage studio here in my home. 449 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm joined by Nick eat mcdave, Hellman, and Amber Garcia. 450 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: They are all from their homes except for Nick who 451 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: was at the Star. Cowboys are off today. They are 452 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: not practicing. The players have a day off. They'll be 453 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: back on the field tomorrow, so we'll have some more 454 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: coverage from practice tomorrow and again on Friday before they 455 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: have another ALF day on Saturday. I think Wedndsays, and 456 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: Saturdays are going to be their off days here throughout 457 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: these a couple of weeks of training camp. Let's get 458 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: into some camp observations. Each of us have had an 459 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to watch a few practices, get some idea of 460 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: what we think of players, position groups. I want to 461 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: start first with the defense because I think, at least 462 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: from my perspective and from what I've seen everyone in 463 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: the media talking about, including I think you guys as well, 464 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: everybody's been really impressed with this defense so far. Maybe 465 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: it's because of maybe lower expectations, or maybe it's because 466 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: they really have just been performing very well. But I 467 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: want each of you to kind of we're gonna go around. 468 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: I want each of you to give me a player 469 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: or a position group that's really stood out to you 470 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball through the first 471 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: few practices. We're gonna start first with you, Dave. I mean, 472 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, I know we do this every year. I 473 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: can hear people complaining about it because nobody wants to 474 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: hear how great they look and then watch him suck. 475 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: But they look pretty good. I mean, we spent the 476 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: whole first segment on how active the pass rush has been. 477 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: They've got I think they have seven takeaways through four practices, 478 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: and I mean that's across a variety of different drills. 479 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, that's seven on seven, that's team, etc. Etc. 480 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: So it's not all eleven on eleven. But they have 481 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: six total interceptions through four practices and Anthony Brown force 482 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: to fumble, So that's been the emphasis, and through four 483 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: practices they're doing it. So that's fun. Amber. I guess 484 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just stick to the guy I chose yesterday 485 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: for Camp Stars. That the guy the guys do on 486 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: the website on Dallas Camma dot com. But my guy 487 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: would be Francis Bernard. He's a guy that he wouldn't 488 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: never really catch my eye just because he doesn't really 489 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: have that that linebacker mold that these other linebackers have. 490 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: For example, Luke Giffer, he fits that linebacker mole. But 491 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: this guy, he's smaller, he's not as big at the 492 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: rest as the rest of the guys, but he has 493 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: been able to to do some things on the field. 494 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: He's quick, he's very, very aware of everything that is 495 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: going on. And another thing that that really impressed me, 496 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: which is off the field, when he's on the sideline, 497 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: I see him constantly just talking to Sean Lee. I 498 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about, but you know, I'm 499 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: sure he's learning something from Shan Lee and asking questions 500 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: and and just being you know, not off to the 501 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: side just watching. He's being interactive and trying to learn 502 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: as much as he can. And and he's Clama eyes 503 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: this first few practice. This Nick, I think we can't 504 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: let her just say that's my guy, because you know 505 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: that I've been smil you mentioned his name. Go ahead, 506 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: it's okay, It's okay. He you know, he catches your 507 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: eye with the hair. But then also, no, he's making plays. 508 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say defensive line with an asterisk, because guys, 509 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: the offensive tackles have been have been bad. I mean, 510 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: like Tyren Smith doesn't even play that much we haven't 511 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: seen Irving, we haven't seen Lyle Collins, and so it's 512 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: hard to evaluate anything when it's just like a you know, 513 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: they're they're just blitz creaked to the quarterback every single time. 514 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's tough to evaluate everybody on offense. So 515 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: defensive line look is looking really good, but I want 516 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: to see what they're look like with a little bit 517 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: more uh competition at the offensive tackles. All right, let's 518 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: flip over to the offensive side of the ball. Let's 519 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: do the exact same thing. I think the offense is 520 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: flashed at moments. I think there have been some good moments, 521 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: some good practices. But tell me a player or a 522 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: position group that stood out to you the most. We're 523 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: gonna start this time first with Amber. Amber. Give me 524 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: somebody on the offensive side. You know what, I've been 525 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: trying to keep my eye on Blake Jarwin. And he's 526 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy that he's not super consistent. He's not gonna 527 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: make every play, but I've been paying attention to him 528 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: even when the ball is not going towards him, when 529 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: it's not going his way, he's still being able to 530 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: get open, make that push that is needed and get 531 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: away from from the defender defender, and he's I don't know, 532 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: I think that he if he gets more opportunities, he 533 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: would be really really good this year. Nick. You know, 534 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking at those backup receivers. I know that when 535 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about the first three guys, I mean, we 536 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: know where they're going to be. Even then, there seems 537 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: to be a pretty good push there for that fourth 538 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: and fifth spot, maybe a sixth spot. And you know 539 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: a Ventel Brian Oh I kind of put as a 540 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: special team's ace. He's actually making and plays there. Cedric 541 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: Wilson's doing a nice drum. Um, you know, he over 542 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: the middle of doing something and then not forget his name, 543 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: but seventeen Dave helped me here. Um, oh, Tevin Jones, 544 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: he's making Tevin Jones. I mean he's a that guy 545 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: looks the part, really big guy, can move well. I know, 546 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm even leaving out a guy John Vay Johnson. Of course, 547 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: he's a you know, he's always gonna look good in camp. Um, 548 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: but you know, I haven't seen it. But yeah, I'm 549 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: apparently I haven't seen nor Brown making any plays. Is 550 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: he making plays? He's making plays. He's good looks he's 551 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: moving around a lazy He's gonna be on the Giants 552 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: practice squid. Ye'all don't have to believe it if you 553 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: don't want to. But he's he's I mean, the one 554 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: thing we got to remember here is Noah Brown was 555 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: a pet cat of that previous coaching staff. We don't 556 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: know that he's walking into the door this year with 557 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: that same kind of love coming from no Nick's absolutely right. 558 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: If he doesn't make this team, he'll be in East 559 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: rather On like the absolute next flight. No doubt about it, 560 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. All right, let's let's talk a 561 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: little bit more about the offensive side. Nick, you alluded 562 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: to you don't even want to talk to me. You 563 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: don't want to. I'm sorry, Dave. I thought i'd already 564 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: gone to you. Dave, give me your give you offensive 565 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: guy or position. I mean, I know, I'm gonna take 566 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: this opportunity to be a downer. I mean, we could go, 567 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: we could talk. Oh, I mean, you know, the receivers 568 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: are great. If you follow our coverage at all, you 569 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: know that Zeke and Pollard or doing a lot of 570 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: stuff in the running and the passing game. Um, I'm 571 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: it makes me nervous what's going on with the right 572 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: tackle spot. To be honest with you, I mean Nick 573 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: already laid it out perfectly. But you know, if Lyle 574 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: Collins and Cameron Irving weren't hurt so bad that they 575 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: opened the camp on pup, which if it was really bad, 576 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: you assume that they would. But they haven't practiced yet. 577 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: We have, I mean, we haven't seen them do anything 578 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: competitive and nobody wants to talk about why. And and 579 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's not serious, but it's kind of hard to 580 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: evaluate what the offense is doing when Dak is theoretically 581 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: getting killed every other time he drops back. I mean, 582 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: it's training camp, so you can't hit him. But DeMarcus 583 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence probably has eight sacks through two padded practices. Um. 584 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: I would really like to see one of these experienced 585 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: right tackles get back into practice, hopefully sooner rather than later. Yeah, 586 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: the point ahead Amber, I was gonna ask, what's the 587 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: point of being so secretive about whether it's an injury 588 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: or illness. I don't understand why they're being so secretive 589 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: about it, because you can, that's I mean, that's that's 590 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: my best name, because you can, you know, and I 591 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: don't necessarily you know, it's frustrating for us in the media, 592 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily blame Mike McCarthy. He said it himself. 593 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: It's like it's one of the few advantages that he 594 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: has is, you know, it's a first year staff, so 595 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: nobody one hundred percent knows what to expect, and they 596 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: don't have to play on TV, so he doesn't have 597 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: to expose his roster if he doesn't want to. So 598 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: it's annoying, but if he wants to be a super secretive, 599 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: he can do that in these circumstances. And think about it, 600 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: you could take it even a step further with that. 601 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: Usually a new head coach, a new coaching staff would 602 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to be able to have a few 603 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: extra training practices during the offseason. They didn't get that 604 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: this year, so whatever advantages were actually built into the 605 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: NFL system for new coaches, they lost that as well. 606 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: So really this is kind of the the only advantage 607 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: they have right now is that nobody knows what the 608 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys are really going to be able to do because 609 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: there will be no preseason games, so literally they will 610 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: walk on the field for the first time against the 611 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, and that will be the first time 612 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL will get an idea of what 613 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will be trying to do offensively and defensively. 614 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: So that's an advantage and they want to try to 615 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: take advantage that as much. And I really can't blame 616 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: him for that. And this about the injury, I mean, 617 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: this is something like Dave said, this is something you 618 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: can do right now, so they're doing it. But I 619 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't worry too much about this is going to be 620 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: the way it is all year because the NFL won't 621 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: allow that. So once we get to get to the 622 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: regular season when the injury report, official end report has 623 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: to come out. Now there's ways around, you know, revealing everything, 624 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: and I think there's a certain team up Northeast that 625 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: does it better than anybody. But I do think that 626 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: they'll you'll have to put the specific injury out there, 627 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not too worried about it. If training camp 628 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of vague, but I think it'll get better 629 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: as the season goes on. Did I will say go ahead, Dave, 630 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: but I just you know, I will say this is 631 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: it's amateur and it's not. It ain't scientific. Put it 632 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: that way, But I mean, Lyle Collins has been at 633 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: practice every day. He's been in uniform. You know, he 634 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: was doing strength and conditioning rehab with Britt Brown before practice, 635 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: not yesterday, but the few days before that. Um wearing 636 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: his helmet, taking part in stuff. Body language is good. 637 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: So it doesn't look from a distance like it's this 638 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: super scary long term injury. But again, I mean that's 639 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily evidence. It's just kind of my hunch from 640 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: watching practice. The Cowboys did sound an offensive tackle and 641 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: Pace Murphy. Did you guys read anything into that that 642 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: maybe this is a longer term for one or both 643 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: of these guys that are currently here. I just think 644 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: it means that the guys they have are not doing 645 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: a good job. I mean, I think Terence Steele and 646 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: Wyatt Miller, god, you know, God bless him. I'm not 647 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: trying to hate, but they must they must be having 648 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: nightmares when they go back to their hotel rooms at 649 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: night because they're having to deal with guys like Aldon 650 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Smith and Tank Lawrence. And that's that's not easy for 651 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, let alone somebody who just got here who's 652 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: fifth on the depth chart. So I think they're just 653 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: trying to throw bodies at it and get through practice. 654 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: Didn't we get Isaac in there? Can Isaac start making 655 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: some place? I can't even pronounce his last name. I 656 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: let go, let go, no, you know, and people have 657 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: been asking me about him. There's still a lot of 658 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: growth needed to happen there. He I mean, we know 659 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: the transition from when you're not in the NFL getting 660 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: to the NFL and that first year, how tough it is. 661 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: But this guy that they sign, I looked him up 662 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, no, NFL experience. Okay. I stopped reading. 663 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I need someone that has experienced doing 664 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: something so I can feel better in case something does 665 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: happen to like all Collins. We've seen it in the past. 666 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: Anytime there's an injury in the offensive line, it's costing. 667 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna cost you a big price. So 668 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: they need someone that can really help you and feel 669 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: that you can What is that called the band aid guy? 670 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: A band aid and not a band aid. We need 671 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: an actual goss that can be wrapped around all the way, 672 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: not a bandaid that can start peeling off with sweat 673 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: during the game. We need something that will wrap all 674 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: the way around and the work for you in case 675 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: of needed. They have that guy, his name is Cam Irving. 676 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: He's hurt too, so well exactly that's the point. Well, 677 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: a gee something, you're like, you know, I just need 678 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: I need a Pro Bowl fourth string tackle, and that's 679 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: just that's not how it works, my guy, That's not 680 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: how it works. Well, hopefully those two guys, or at 681 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: least one of those guys can get back to practice 682 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: really soon to at least give those defensive ends a 683 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: good look in practice, and we'll see how that thing transpires. 684 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and take our final break a 685 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: little early here. 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I am 729 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: at the Virgil s WBC Star Studios at my home, 730 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: and I've got Nick Eatman at the Star. We've got 731 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: Amber Garcia at her home, Dave Helmett at his home, 732 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: and let's time for a few questions we Twitter. Amber 733 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: went to Twitter last night, got some questions from you guys. 734 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: Look like there were a lot of them flowing in, 735 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: so let's see how many we can get to Amber. 736 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you so much to everyone 737 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: who's sent into questions. To start off, Hell, here's the 738 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: first question. Who else is getting reps as a punt 739 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: returner beside cde Lamb, Cedric Wilson. That's your your primary 740 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: suspect so far? Okay, how do you go about? How 741 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: do you but but it just it just it makes 742 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: sense because Cedric did it last year. You know, I 743 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: was the guy I said all offseason that I wanted 744 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard to get a shot at it. But you 745 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: have CD Lamb now, so I don't care as much 746 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: about that as I used to. Um, we know Jordan 747 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: Lewis has done it in the past, but really for 748 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: the most part, it's been Cedric and CD doing the 749 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: majority of it. If CD turns out to be your 750 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: primary return or how do you guys feel about that 751 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: after seeing what he's already been able to do so 752 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: far at receiver, Because I think we all watch him 753 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: at receiver and are very very impressed with what he's 754 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: able to do there. How how concerned are you and 755 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: putting him in a in a return role if if 756 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: you think they're going to use him as much as 757 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: we think they will at a wide receiver, I'm not 758 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: concerned at all. I mean, I just think that you 759 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: got to get the ball in his hands. It's gonna 760 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: be hard to share it on offense with all the 761 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: guys that they've got Zeke running the ball, I'm not 762 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. You gotta figure out ways to get dynamic 763 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: players in there. So, um, that doesn't bother me at all. 764 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: If your third receiver is returning punts, that's that's fine. 765 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm always the guy that you know I don't want 766 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: good players to play in the preseason, but that's because 767 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: the preseasons meaningless. Returning punts is not meaningless. Field position 768 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: is crucial. It's I mean, it costs the Cowboys like 769 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: at least two games last year. I want dynamic players 770 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: with opportunities to touch the ball. So I'm all in 771 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: on CD returning punts. I love it. Camber and he 772 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: said he likes doing it, So that's a plus. When 773 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: you got a guy that actually he likes doing a 774 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: certain job. All right. Moving on to late in vendor Ish, 775 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: how's he doing with the whole neck injury so far? 776 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: From the things I've we've been able to see a practice, 777 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: I really didn't want to talk about it, So no, Babe, 778 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: we shouldn't talk about it. He doesn't like talking about 779 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: it because I think he feels like he's moving on 780 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: and so he looks pretty good at this point. The 781 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: fact that he did not start on pump I thought 782 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: was a really big sign. So, so far, so good. 783 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: Obviously not you know, he's not banging in there with 784 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: the other blockers, but you know, we'll see when he 785 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: gets that first couple of hits. But I think right now, 786 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: I think it's going pretty good. Yeah, he's full go 787 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: him and Jaylen both. I mean, it's it's practice, but 788 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: they both look really good. I've been really impressed with 789 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: both of them so far. Yeah, linebacker and running back 790 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: are probably the two hardest positions to really evaluate in 791 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: training camp when you're not actually hitting and tackling. But 792 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: I will say this, based on what you've already seen, 793 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: I think both those guys that you just mentioned, Dave, 794 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: they look really good. Particularly, I've liked what I've seen 795 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: from them in the drills where they've been in coverage, 796 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: because I did not think and I have not that 797 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: thought that Jalen Smith necessarily was was great in coverage. 798 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: But I think he's done pretty well here in training 799 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: camp so far. It'll be interesting to see once they 800 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: actually start hitting, if we see a similar type result 801 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: from both those guys at linebacker. All Right, this guy 802 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: says that, you know, we're used to talking about the 803 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: great Dallas Cowboys offensive line, but at this moment he 804 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: feels that that specific position group is the weakest. How 805 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: do you guys feel about that when you look at 806 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: the whole roster, what position group would you say is 807 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: the weakest at this point? I'm oh, okay, that's a 808 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: good one. I mean, they have this unproven I mean, 809 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: he might be might be pretty good, but I mean 810 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: Blake might be pretty good. But I think I think 811 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: they're the weakest on offense. The offensive line is going 812 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: to be fine once Lyle gets back in there, I believe. 813 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I do agree with the point that 814 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: it's not what it used to be. I don't think 815 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: it's this dominating thing. You can't just keep getting injury 816 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: for these guys and losing Travis Frederick. It's not the same, 817 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: but I still think it's pretty good. I still I 818 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: mean until proven otherwise. Oh sorry, sorry a g until 819 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: proven otherwise. It's the secondary. It's the secondary until I 820 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: mean they've been they've they're off to a nice start. 821 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: Like I said, they've got I think they have four 822 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: picks at the DBS have four picks because Francis Bernard 823 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: has two of those. So I mean, it's a nice start. 824 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: But there's there's proven playmaking ability almost everywhere else on 825 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: this team, but we don't necessarily have that from the 826 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: defensive backs. Not only that, but let's consider this. Let's 827 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: slow down a little bit. The offensive line still has 828 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: two All pros on it, and at last time I check, 829 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: tight ends don't have a single one. Uh, the secondary 830 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: doesn't have a single one. So I think there are 831 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: other positions on this team that you look at and 832 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: you're like it, there's a little bit more to prove 833 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: than this offensive line. I think the offensive line will 834 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: be fine. Part of the problem right now is just 835 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: you got injuries at your at your swing tackle in 836 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: your right tackle position. That'll work itself out. I think 837 00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: they'll be fine. When you talk about the secondary and 838 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: today's point about that whole area. To me, right now, 839 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how you really truly get to evaluate 840 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: this because I feel like every training camp that is 841 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: a position group that we notice and guys start standing out. 842 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: You know, last year we were talking about Jordan Lewis 843 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: and how well he was doing and everything like that. 844 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: But then you get into the season and then you 845 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: start seeing certain players Cheeto not performing as well as 846 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: you would want them to or expect them to. So 847 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: how do you really get to evaluate at this point? 848 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: I know it's it's hard for us, and I know 849 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: it's hard for the coaching staff and the scouting department, 850 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: But how do you figure it out? I mean we don't. 851 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean they can make their own evaluations. They have 852 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: the L twenty two, they can go back and watch, 853 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: and they have a much better idea of like, Okay, 854 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: this guy's really coming on or you know, kind of 855 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: reminds me of the Loop Gift interception in the preseason 856 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: last year where we're all like, what an amazing play 857 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: and the coaches are like, he was so far out 858 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: of position it's not even funny. But the quarterback made 859 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: a bad decision. It's hard. With what we're working with, 860 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: it's hard. So all I try to do is just 861 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: say what I see. If you notice I couch everything 862 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: I say, I say, it looks like or I think, 863 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: which I mean. I'm just doing the best that I can. 864 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, every single year, somebody that we love during 865 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: training camp turns out to be kind of disappointing. So 866 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: you're just trying to do the best you can and 867 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: let people know what you see. I guess you know. 868 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: I'll use this phrase one of the guys here the 869 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: local media uses it a lot, Jock Taylor. Sports is fluid, 870 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of the best way you 871 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: could put this. Like, just because we talk about a 872 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: specific player right now and say, oh, he's performing really well, 873 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: that has absolutely no bearing on how he's going to 874 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: perform week one or week sixteen. The fact of the 875 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: matter is you just talk about what you see right 876 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: now and we and the proof will be what are 877 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: they doing in week one, in week two, in week three, 878 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: week four, as they play throughout the season. That will 879 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: really be the proof. But you know, again, we're just 880 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 1: talking about what's happening right now. You cannot I don't 881 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 1: think and at least what I've seen over the years 882 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: that I've covered this team. You cannot put a ton 883 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: of stock in what you see in training camp, necessarily 884 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: because there will be guys that don't do much in 885 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: training camp that show up really big when the season 886 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: gets here. There'll be others they look really great in 887 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: training camp and won't do anything once the season gets here. So, 888 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, you just talk about what you have right now, 889 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: and there's no way to really evaluate the future. You 890 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: can only evaluate what's happening right now in these practice situations. Now, 891 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: we are limited on certain things that we can talk 892 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: about from this practices, But based on what we've seen 893 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: so far, what is something whether on offense or defense, 894 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: that has caught your eyes overall that it's different from 895 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: what we've seen in previous years, Nick um Dan, I'm 896 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: hoping somebody else could jump in on that, like something 897 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: that's different. I mean, just I guess there's a little 898 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: bit of drills here and there. I'm trying. I'm trying 899 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: to think of like something that's that's a big deal. 900 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I could just I could say, oh, red 901 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: jerseys on the quarterbacks or last names on the bat 902 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but that doesn't matter. That's just visible changes. 903 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: I really can't think you guys have something that that's 904 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: like you said, oh, this is completely different than what 905 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. I don't know if it's 906 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: completely different, but um, you know, not trying to give 907 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: Mike's game away, but I just the running backs are active, 908 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: and they are doing things downfield and on the side 909 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: of the field and in the middle of the field, 910 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: and it's just it's exciting because it was a source 911 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 1: of great frustration that they weren't a little more creative 912 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: with those guys last year. And you know, we just 913 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: said what they're doing right now. It doesn't mean they'll 914 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: do it when the season starts. But I'm more confident 915 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: than ever that both Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard will 916 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: have big and diverse roles in this offense. And that's exciting. Yeah. 917 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: You know, one thing I guess I could say to 918 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: that is that we've seen more practice with quarterbacks throwing 919 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: the ball on the run like before. You know, sometimes 920 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: it just happens, they're part of the game, but we've 921 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: actually seen drills where they are designed to go through 922 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: things and then throw it. Um, that's that that kind 923 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: of shows to me that you know that they may 924 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: try to do that, you know, more es first with 925 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: Dak and get him out there and and you know, 926 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: having practice the fact that he can throw the ball 927 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: in the run. He's always been pretty good at that. 928 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: But you know, that's just something that I think that 929 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: they're working on. You know, you know, I'll go back 930 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: to what Cheeto said earlier in the week in his 931 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: time with the media and talking about how the defense 932 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: um is a lot more um, a lot more dynamic 933 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: this year. They are. They're giving a lot more looks 934 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: pre snap and disguising a lot more things. And that's 935 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: something again he talked about as far as how he 936 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: likes the fact that they're doing that a little bit 937 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: more and not relying so much on just hey we 938 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: got better players. They're actually giving their guys a chance 939 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: by giving them some some schematic help, and so that's 940 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: something else. I think that that, at least from the 941 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: way he describes it, can be a really big boon 942 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: for this team and really maybe help them. I've always 943 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: been a big proponent of the fact that I think 944 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: teams should rely more on scheme than just saying, hey, 945 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna line up the way we line up and 946 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: make you adjust to us. Because what happens when you 947 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: find a team that really is legitimately better and then 948 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: that's and we saw that last year. I think that's 949 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: part of the reasons why Cowboys didn't play great as 950 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: far as their win loss record against really good teams 951 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: last year because they didn't really give their guys a 952 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: ton of help when it comes to scheming up how 953 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: they play and disguising certain things and throwing, you know, 954 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: different things at teams that they aren't really necessarily expected. 955 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: So I'm actually excited to see more of that as 956 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: a season gets here. Out of the undrafted players, who 957 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: would be a guy that you feel will make the 958 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: roster so far, I want to jump in here and 959 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: Nick and Nick and Derek more so Nick just because 960 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: you've seen more. But like, tell me if I'm crazy, 961 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: doesn't it seem to you like the down the line 962 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 1: guys are just not getting as many opportunities as we're 963 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: used to. Yeah, this is you can tell. You can 964 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: tell by the way the guys that they sign they 965 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: like veteran guys. You know, they they're they're trying to 966 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: throw you know, they don't want a bunch of young 967 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: guys learning on the run in week one. They want 968 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: some veteran players. But you're right, Dave, you don't see 969 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys. Francis Bernard has been one 970 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: who's played a little bit. But I think we're just 971 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: saying that because he's made the most of the opportunities. 972 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he's jumping in with you know, with 973 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: first team reps or anything like that. No. I mean, 974 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: and I don't know this for sure, but my impression 975 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: from watching these first few practices. Remember we've said it already, 976 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: they didn't have an off season. There's no OTAs and 977 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: no mini camps, so that's fifteen practices that you typically 978 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: used to install everything. They're doing that right now. They 979 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: are I mean, I know they had their virtual sessions, 980 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: but they are installing on the field for the first time. 981 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: And I think my perception is that the coaches really 982 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: want to make sure that the top of the line 983 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: guys that are going to be playing in the season 984 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: know their stuff because they are getting so much more 985 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: opportunity than the down the line guys. There's just the 986 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: seasons already. I mean, shoot, it's like two and a 987 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: half weeks away. They don't have time to be seeing 988 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: what they have in Rondell Carter. They need to get 989 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: the big names out there learning their stuff. So to 990 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: that point, I mean, it would be Francis Bernard for me, 991 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: just because he's made the most of those opportunities. I 992 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: struggle to think of any other like undrafted guys that 993 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: have really gotten a chance to do a lot of stuff. 994 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, forty two gets the ball 995 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: a lot. Is that Rico? Maybe I don't know how 996 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 1: to say his name, but Rico double Dabble from South Carolina. 997 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: He gets the ball a lot, and he's not doing 998 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: a whole lot with it. I don't you know. But 999 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: but you know, to your point, day what they've had 1000 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: four practices so far. I mean, I think they've had four. 1001 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: When you go back to the two weeks after the draft, 1002 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: there used to be one week after the draft the 1003 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: rookie rookie free agents get. I mean all the rookies 1004 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: get a mini camp of three days. You know, that's 1005 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: just by themselves, rookie mini camps, so they get free 1006 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: practices under their belt. Here we are in the middle 1007 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: of August and there are they're sitting at four right now, 1008 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: so you know they should have had way, way more 1009 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: time than this. So yeah, it makes sense that you 1010 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: know they're not going to get it in two or 1011 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: three weeks. So I see the will, but that's it. 1012 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, we can't have we can't have our eyes 1013 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: everywhere all the time. So there's a good chance that 1014 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: I've missed something. But I swear people have been blowing 1015 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: me up about Bradley and I and I understand why. 1016 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, he's an exciting draft pick. I with my 1017 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: own eyes have not seen him take a pass rush 1018 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: snap in a eleven on eleven setting. I'm sure he 1019 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 1: has done it once or twice, but he ain't getting 1020 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: in there a lot because they're deferring to the veterans 1021 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,919 Speaker 1: to try to get them up to speed. At least 1022 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 1: that's what it looks like to me. And Reggie Robinson 1023 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: is something good good, I said. Reggie Robinson got a 1024 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: few snaps and we noticed it because he was getting beat, 1025 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, like down the field. So you know, I mean, 1026 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, we got asked about it on a mail bag, 1027 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: like where's Rekie Robinson And it's like, well, you know, 1028 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: he's just he's just trying to learn it. It's like, well, 1029 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: there he is. I don't know if that's a good thing, 1030 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 1: but you know it means that. It's just it's these 1031 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: guys heads are spinning right now, you know it. And frankly, 1032 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: this has been talked about around the league. I think 1033 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: every team is looking at the same thing and saying, 1034 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's gonna be very difficult to get 1035 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: time or to allocate time for rookies, let alone rookie 1036 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: free agents, for them to really be able to work 1037 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: in and figure out what's going on and get up 1038 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: to speed enough to be able to play week one. 1039 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,439 Speaker 1: When you have a condensed training camp, no offseason, it's 1040 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: just it's it's almost impossible. And so it is a 1041 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: year when veterans are actually going to be at a 1042 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: premium and I'm I'm interested to see what happens here 1043 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: when teams have to cut. Are there going to be 1044 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: some draft picks that normally would not get cut that 1045 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 1: teams feel like they got a part ways with because 1046 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: they just didn't see them, and they gotta keep some 1047 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: of those veterans. I want to see how this all 1048 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: plays out, because I do think veterans are in a 1049 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: very very precarious situation, which again that plays into why 1050 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: somebody like Mike McCarthy doesn't want us videoing and tweeting 1051 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: about his team because odds are he's not going to 1052 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: have a great idea of what he's letting go of 1053 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: when it comes time to cut the roster down. Ye, 1054 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. But at position that we haven't 1055 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: really talked about, but we've learned that is very very 1056 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: important on the team is kicker. How has the kicker 1057 00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: been doing so far? He's perfect, He's perfect, but that's 1058 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: he's only he's kicked one time. It's the differences, you know, 1059 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: we're still getting used to it, but like you can 1060 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 1: tell the differences in the way that these coaching staffs 1061 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: do stuff, you know, special teams under Under McCarthy and 1062 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,240 Speaker 1: John Fossil, it dominates. It's like the first thirty minutes 1063 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: in practices, all special teams work, but that's you know, 1064 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: that's blocking and assignments and stuff like that. Greg Zerline 1065 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: has only kicked field goals one time in four practices 1066 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: and I think a long was forty three, so they're 1067 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: not even asking him to do super long range stuff. 1068 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: So he looks all right to me. They haven't done 1069 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot with him. But and let's be clear that 1070 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: that means that may only be the kicks that he's 1071 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: doing in front of us. There are other fields, so 1072 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: he could be working, like if the team is working indoors, 1073 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: he could be working outside kicking. I don't want to 1074 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: trans to get the idea that he's sitting on his 1075 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: just kind of sitting in the locker room doing nothing. 1076 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: I think I think he's probably kicking. It's just in 1077 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 1: different location than when the media is right. Okay. Thoughts 1078 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: on Drew Peterson. We haven't really talked about him, but 1079 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 1: he's a guy in some big news yesterday. Thoughts on 1080 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: him getting a step closer to Canton. I'll take this one. 1081 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it. I know that doesn't necessarily 1082 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: mean he's in, but I think the writing's on the 1083 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: wall there that with him being the only senior addition 1084 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 1: there for the from the Seniors committee, I think it's 1085 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't usually at this point that 1086 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: they don't not get in. So you know, yes, everyone 1087 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: remembers that the video and he was upset and rightfully so. 1088 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he deserves it. And I'll say this. Everyone 1089 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: can have their own opinion. I've said this thousand times. 1090 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, though, when you think about the 1091 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: history of the Dallas Cowboys and the memorable moments, we 1092 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: memorable games, Hail Mary, the Clint Longley game, even Dorsets 1093 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine yard run, the you know game against the 1094 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: Alkins in the playoffs when Danny White came back. Drew 1095 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: Chris is in there for all of it. He is 1096 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: the history of this team. He's he started number eighty eight, 1097 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: and he's the only offensive player that in the decade 1098 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: of the nineteen seventies All decade team not in the 1099 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Long overdue. It needs to happen, and 1100 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like it will. Yeah, No video last year 1101 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: was heartbreaking, and I honestly, I just I just want 1102 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: to see the right thing be done here. Like you said, Nick, 1103 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: I think he certainly is deserving and uh, And I 1104 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 1: think he had every expectation that last year, with the 1105 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: increased number of guys that were going to be going 1106 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: in celebrate the NFL anniversary. I think he rightfully thought 1107 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: he would be a part of that and he wasn't. 1108 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: And I just I hated that for him. I hated 1109 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: to see him go through that. I think the NFL 1110 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: needs to do right by him, and he think he 1111 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: needs to be in the in the Hall of Fame. 1112 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 1: It's weird to say, but I kind of think the 1113 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: video might be why this happened. Honestly, um, you know, 1114 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: it kind of went it kind of went viral at least, 1115 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, among NFL fans and media, and I think 1116 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people saw that. You know, not everybody 1117 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: pays as close attention to the Cowboys as we do. 1118 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were like, wait a second, 1119 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson's not in the Hall of Fame, Like, are 1120 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: we serious right now? And I think that probably gave 1121 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: him a groundswell of support that maybe he didn't have before. So, 1122 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I hate it for him. It sucks that 1123 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: that had to happen, But in a weird way, I 1124 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: think that video kind of maybe put this on the map. 1125 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: You know, you guys remember a linebacker that played with 1126 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: Florence Taylor's name was Harry Carson. He played for the 1127 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: Giants for a long time. He was a finalist in 1128 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: the Like in the Final fifteen eight years in a 1129 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 1: row and didn't make it, and he said, do not 1130 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: put my name in here again. I'm removing my name. 1131 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm out. It just is not happening. He got in 1132 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: next year, That next year he got in. So I 1133 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe that just has to happen sometimes people. Yeah, 1134 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: I know, sometimes z are probably extenuating circumstances. None of 1135 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: us is in the room when they're making those decisions. 1136 00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to kill those 1137 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: guys too much, but I just think this at this rate, 1138 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,959 Speaker 1: Like you said, Nick, if you want to talk about 1139 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: the history of the Dallas Cowboys, and the Cowboys are 1140 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: a very history franchise, franchise that is probably one of 1141 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the most in the NFL, one of the most story 1142 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: franchise in NFL, and so many of those stories have 1143 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson being a part of them. There's no reason. 1144 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Like you hear that that phrase all the time. Can 1145 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: you tell the story of whatever without whoever? Well, I 1146 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: don't think you can tell the story of the Dallas 1147 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys without Drew Pearson being a part of it, which 1148 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: means and he has the production on top of that, 1149 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I think he needs to be in the Hall of fame. Yeah, 1150 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: and you can't just look at numbers because the numbers, 1151 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: like when the guys in the seventies, the way the 1152 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 1: passing game was four teen game schedules, it's not the same. 1153 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell has more sacks than Drew Pearson. It's not 1154 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 1: the way it is. It's just how he meant, what 1155 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: he meant to the team, the organization, and that success 1156 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: he's definitely deserving. So it looks like it's going to happen. 1157 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: All right. We'll appreciate you guys joining us. Thanks Amber 1158 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: forgetting all the questions. Thanks for all you guys who 1159 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: actually sent questions. Were appreciate you taking some time with us. 1160 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: We'll be back next Wednesday eleven am for more from 1161 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: the Break. Till then for Nick Eatn, Dave helm and AMBERGARSCIA. 1162 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live 1163 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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