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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Philly.

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Speaker 3: Shown Uber tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisberry Todds Aleki. It is Thursday,

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Speaker 3: February twelfth, twenty twenty six. Phillies pitchers and catchers had

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Speaker 3: their first workout official workout on Wednesday. Guys always a

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Speaker 3: big day, treated like a holiday.

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Speaker 4: And Mits the.

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Speaker 2: Popping Jim, Jim the phrase that Jimmy made famous years ago.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it was always in the Inquiry, every right, Jim.

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Speaker 4: And now it's everywhere. Mits of pomping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mits it look at you.

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Speaker 3: You're such a trendsetter, Jim.

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Speaker 5: You are, I mean, for for a Barney Rubble type guy,

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Speaker 5: I mean you really tred some. You really had some trends.

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Speaker 3: But it is cool though the first day of spring training.

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Speaker 3: It's not the first fullwards full, first full squad workout

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Speaker 3: of his next week. But you know today, just guys

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Speaker 3: coming out playing cats. You have Aaron Nolan, you have

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Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler playing catch, Christopher Sanchez playing cats, and then

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Speaker 3: you see Jose Alvarado, Juan Duran, Taiwan Walker go out

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Speaker 3: and throw a bullpen sessions. You have JT Real Mutil

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Speaker 3: behind the plate, and Marshan behind the plate and Garrett

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Speaker 3: stubbed behind the plate. Sun peeked out for a couple

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Speaker 3: of minutes. It was a good day.

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Speaker 4: Looked like you got a little son.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I got a little bit of sun.

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Speaker 3: I tried to put some sunblock on, which is funny,

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Speaker 3: Like I said, those kind of overcast on on Wednesday

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Speaker 3: down in clear Water Carpenter Complex.

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Speaker 2: But everybody, it was, you know, that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: It was warm.

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Speaker 3: It was a little chili, a little chili, but hopefully

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Speaker 3: it'll be.

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Speaker 5: Warm and fifty.

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Speaker 3: I think it was maybe a little bit warmer than that.

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Speaker 2: It was a little bit warmer than that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but it was you know, everybody seen

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Speaker 3: being a real good mood. Everybody seemed to be real

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Speaker 3: up eight. That's what spring training is about, though, right guys.

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Speaker 6: Spring training where the uh where everybody's tied for first

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Speaker 6: place and the MRIs are clean.

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Speaker 5: Not all of them, not for them of braves.

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Speaker 6: No, a lot of handmade injuries, a lot of hand

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Speaker 6: injuries and swelling back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, but they step back. That's the spring man.

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Speaker 5: As a GM, I mean, and as an assistant dude,

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Speaker 5: you're just holding your breath, the entire spring. Can we

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Speaker 5: please get through this healthy?

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Speaker 6: Think about some of the I remember you guys acquired

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Speaker 6: Jim Tomy and then he suffered a broken finger first week.

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Speaker 6: First week of camp, you acquire brad Leedge and he

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Speaker 6: tweaks his knee the first week of camp.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: I ever got Michael Jackson and he can't get out

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Speaker 5: of the gate. He comes.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget that all night.

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Speaker 5: Dan can't come out of the gate.

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Speaker 4: They signed to Todd.

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Speaker 6: They signed Mike Jackson to be their closer return engagement

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Speaker 6: with the Phillies in about ninety seven or ninety eight,

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Speaker 6: and opening day they got he's going to be their closer.

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Speaker 6: And it's like opening day in Arizona, and they got

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Speaker 6: a lead and he never gets up in the bullpen.

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Speaker 5: He gets up, but he doesn't come. It doesn't come out.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't come out. Y that's right.

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Speaker 6: Yet to shut that one, Todd, Oh my god. And

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Speaker 6: then of course there was the one spring at the

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Speaker 6: end of the end of camp. It was at Jack

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Speaker 6: Russell Stadiums. Was a long time ago they put do

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Speaker 6: you remember this route when you put five? I think

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Speaker 6: it was ninety seven. You were probably still playing. Finally,

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Speaker 6: final like two days of camp, they put five pictures

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Speaker 6: on the injured list on the DL and Calvin Maduro

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Speaker 6: Young Calvin Maduro, who had been sent out like a

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Speaker 6: week earlier to go pitch a triple A. They not

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Speaker 6: only call him back to big league camp, they say

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Speaker 6: you're going to be our number two starter.

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Speaker 3: About that, well, the Phillies hope that they are a

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Speaker 5: From those days for the Fighting Phillies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, far a different different world.

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Speaker 5: That was Terry Francona's first season, I think, is that right?

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Speaker 4: Oh, and then then there was Tartable gets hurt first trip.

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Speaker 5: Fallas went off his ankle or foot and he's out

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Speaker 5: for the entire season.

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Speaker 6: And Dutch goes and plays right field admirably insane.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Phillies are obviously hoping they don't have to

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Speaker 3: deal with as much of that stuff. The only injury

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Speaker 3: news today, guys, was that Ryan Kirkering has a mild

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Speaker 3: hamstring strain that he tweaked to maybe I think it

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Speaker 3: was within the past week. They don't think it's anything serious, though,

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Speaker 3: So that's good news when we're talking about all each

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Speaker 3: other other injuries.

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Speaker 5: Gotta take care of that hammy though. We gotta slow

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Speaker 5: it down. Yeah for a little while. You cannot have

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Speaker 5: that nagging on you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was it was you know, yeah, like

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Speaker 3: I said, it was. Zach Wheeler spoke for the first

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Speaker 3: time since he had his thoracic outlet decompression surgery. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, so he talked about that. There's some things

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Speaker 4: What was your big takeaway from the day, It was

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Speaker 4: your big takeaway? Well, you know, put us there.

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Speaker 3: I think these guys really truly you know, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of talk about running it back. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of talk about running it back just across the causeway

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Speaker 3: in Tampa with the Yankees, and I think these guys

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Speaker 3: really do believe that they are good enough. In talking

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Speaker 3: to Zach Wheeler talk to Aaron No a little bit,

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Speaker 3: that they just need to kind of keep it going

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Speaker 3: to the post. They're not they understand, I guess, you know,

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Speaker 3: they see how they brought most everybody back running it back,

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Speaker 3: but they there's a real belief I believe in that

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Speaker 3: clubhouse that at least in the guys I spoke to today,

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Speaker 3: that they can go out.

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Speaker 2: And win a World Series.

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Speaker 3: A lot of doubt, a lot of doubt, a lot

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Speaker 3: of fan frustration with the you know, the lack of

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Speaker 3: big off season moves. But they seem to be pretty optimistic.

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Speaker 3: And then in Zach Wheeler, and Zach Wheeler was definitely

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Speaker 3: optimistic about his ability to return.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to talk.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk more about Zach Wheeler right after

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Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler spoke to us after the workout. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: it was the first time he had talked since like

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Speaker 3: last August when he had the blood clout. He had

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Speaker 3: the blood clout remove hadn't talked since then, and he's

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Speaker 3: thrown from ninety feet. He feels really good about his progress.

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Speaker 3: He seems to under he wants to get back as

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Speaker 3: quickly as possible, but he also sees no reason to

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Speaker 3: rush himself back. He's like, listen, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: be ready by opening day. Why do I need to

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Speaker 3: be back rush myself back to be back in the

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Speaker 3: first week or the first week and a half. So

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Speaker 3: he's going to listen to the phillies, trainers, the doctors

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Speaker 3: and continue to kind of move check certain boxes as

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Speaker 2: But he seems pretty optimistic.

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Speaker 3: Again, everybody's always optimistic, and Zach said the same thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, as an athlete, you're always optimistic you're going

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Speaker 3: to come back and return to prior for him, but

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Speaker 3: he's really optimistic that the way he feels, the way

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Speaker 3: he's throwing the ball, the way he's kind of recovered

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Speaker 3: so far, that he is going to bounce back and

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Speaker 3: be the pitcher that he once was. And if that

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Speaker 3: actually happens, that is obviously a huge development for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: I mean having that man at the top of that

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Speaker 5: those two lefties. Boy, that's pretty special. Hey, Todd, you

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Speaker 2: Some other things?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did notice some other Well real quick,

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Speaker 3: before I get to that, I do want to mention that.

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Speaker 2: It caught fire. Is that you know, Zach took.

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Speaker 3: Home home his rib which he had removed, which I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so which is I guess is not believe it or not?

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Speaker 5: Actually, like how.

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Speaker 2: It's his first rib right below his shoulder. He had

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Speaker 3: He said, he said, yeah, you know a lot of

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Speaker 3: right guys. You hear like a picture has his bone

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Speaker 3: spurs removed, and he's like, oh, yeah, the doctor.

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Speaker 2: Gave me the bone spurs.

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Speaker 3: You know, somebody has a kidney stone or whatever removed,

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Speaker 3: they keep that. A hip replacement they had the hip

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Speaker 3: joint or the hip joint, they keep that. But so

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Speaker 3: that after the surgery, the doctor came in and said

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Speaker 3: I wanted to personally give this to you, and Zach

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Speaker 2: I guess. I guess somebody that was pul Bukee.

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Speaker 3: The trainer said he had to do some stuff to

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Speaker 3: kind of preserve it, and he said it's now in

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Speaker 3: a case in the closet in his house. I think

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Speaker 3: if the Phillies win the World Series and he pitches, well,

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Speaker 3: I think he's got to break that out for the

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Speaker 3: for the celebration, you know, like like remember Jason Worth

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Speaker 3: had the Hault hands, the Hulk hand.

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Speaker 2: I think he got to break out the rib.

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Speaker 3: The Phillies win the world But you got to get

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Speaker 3: that thing authenticated though, Jim, come on, I gotta get

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Speaker 3: that hologram stick around that thing, think.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so there he goes Zach wheel right.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, if he does come back and pitches like he does,

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Speaker 3: that is huge, absolutely huge with But gojam.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm fine with We've been talking all along.

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Speaker 6: We didn't think he was gonna be ready opening day,

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Speaker 6: and I am fine with it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna pitch at thirty six.

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Speaker 6: I expect this team to play in October, and I

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Speaker 6: like their chances a lot better if Zach Wheeler is

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Speaker 6: ready for the playoff opener, not necessarily the March twenty

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Speaker 6: eighth opener against the Texas Rangers. It's a long season.

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Speaker 6: Get healthy, get right, build a good foundation for the season,

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Speaker 6: and save a few bullets for the big month.

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Speaker 3: So, Rubin, you mentioned things that we're noticed in the

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Speaker 2: Still on the forty man roster. What do you think

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's not coming back.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, it's gonna come to a resolution.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you know what, the Santander just got thrown on

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Speaker 5: I mean he's out for what five or six months?

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Speaker 3: Maybe Phillies just want to you know, the Phillies just

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Speaker 4: Is it.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys offended that the Phillies have not let

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's been an embarrassing situation that for them,

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Speaker 5: I think ruby, Yeah, I think it's a you know,

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Speaker 5: He's going to get his money. They have to do

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Speaker 2: So I think Ruben, you might disagree with me on

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Speaker 3: But if Dave Dombrowski had not said, yeah, well, you're

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that would have changed anything for

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Speaker 3: with that, because that's a that's a big thing, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I believe that.

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Speaker 5: I think the teams know what he is. I think

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Speaker 6: And I do think teams know he's been out there

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Speaker 6: They're gonna they're gonna subtract him from their roster. Why

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Speaker 3: Rob Thompson said that, and again this isn't a surprise,

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Speaker 3: You know what he can do short. We know he

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Speaker 5: Well, it makes some sense. I mean, Alec Bohm is

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Speaker 6: And do you remember why you started the conversion process

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Speaker 5: Oh it's Scott rolling.

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Speaker 6: So you guys were forecasting what was going to happen

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Speaker 6: I can't mention his name. He works for another team,

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Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, they've been talking a lot about him and

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Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, they just approached me. I go,

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Speaker 3: in the World Baseball Classic. But Rob and Aaron said, hey,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll be a little bit more ready in time

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Speaker 3: for the beginning of the regular season. And Erin also

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Speaker 3: He said he kind of got away from the past

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Speaker 3: be throwing ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm long tossing.

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Speaker 3: But maybe I'll be a little bit crisper and be

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Speaker 3: a little bit have a little bit more arm strength

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Speaker 3: going into the season. So just something I just wanted

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Speaker 3: to mention. That's something to keep it with.

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Speaker 6: So Todd, you can verify this with Aaron. His roots

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Speaker 6: go back to Calabria in Italy.

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Speaker 3: He told me that is that right, Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 6: So his His favorite Italian restaurant is Skinny Chios on

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Speaker 6: South broad.

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Speaker 5: Street and it's a great one.

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Speaker 4: That's his favorite out.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know Italy.

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Speaker 3: In the last World Baseball Classic, they had an espresso

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Speaker 3: machine in the dugout and Aaron Nola actually bought a

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Speaker 3: state of the art espresso machine for the Phillies clubhouse.

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Speaker 3: So he'll be right at home as he's uh, when

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Speaker 3: he's not pitching, he'll be making espressos for his Italian teammates.

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Speaker 5: I want to make a comment. Do you want to

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Speaker 5: make a comment about the long tossing. So one of

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Speaker 5: the things that was really impressive about Aaron was to

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Speaker 5: watch him prep for a LSU start. One of the

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Speaker 5: things that he did was do a ton of long toss.

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Speaker 5: It's one of the reasons why he has not had

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Speaker 5: real any knock wood, any arm issues. He's had a

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Speaker 5: lot of arm care and he's been really healthy with

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Speaker 5: his arm. And I think one of the reasons why

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Speaker 5: is he's on a very very rigorous and a very

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Speaker 5: regimented long toss program. He could see him doing it

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Speaker 5: before he pitched in games. I mean, it was in

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Speaker 5: fact startling see how much long toss he threw before

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Speaker 5: he actually got out when he was starting that day.

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Speaker 5: So it's something he's been doing for a long time

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Speaker 5: and I'm glad he's going back to it.

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Speaker 6: Ruben, most impressive long toss guy you've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: I bet, I.

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Speaker 5: Bet Jose Mason's got to be one of them.

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Speaker 4: He could throw it.

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Speaker 6: He could throw it from pole to pole, foul pole

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Speaker 6: to fall pole on the line.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you that had a good one. Two guys,

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Speaker 5: uh three guys, Glenn Allen Hill and hard hitting Mark Witton, all.

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Speaker 4: Those.

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Speaker 5: I watched those guys do it in in uh winter

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Speaker 5: Ball and Barquis metto in Venezuela, and it was startling

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Speaker 5: to watch him. Jackie Bradley Junior phenomenal long tosser.

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Speaker 4: But I'm talking pictures pitchers.

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Speaker 5: Jose Mason's best I've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Masa Todd. He could throw it. He

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Speaker 6: could just he could like reach reach a path through,

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Speaker 6: he could know.

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Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember that because two thousand and three is

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Speaker 3: my first year covering the Phillies. That was at the end,

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Speaker 3: that was his last year of his you know, he

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Speaker 3: came back I think at six you guys resigned him.

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Speaker 3: Uh Rubin, I think it was an six. You guys

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Speaker 3: brought him back halfway through the season. But I do

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Speaker 3: remember his long toss. I'm like, god, dang man, this

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Speaker 3: guy unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And he had a.

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Speaker 5: Couple of arm surgeries and that's how he kept his

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Speaker 5: shoulders strong. Pretty awesome.

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Speaker 4: So Nola's brother is going to be Seattle's bench coach.

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Speaker 3: I say, bench coach in a bullpen coach, my bull.

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Speaker 4: Good for him.

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Speaker 2: I missed both.

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Speaker 3: He's on the Maritors coaching staff though, and it was

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Speaker 3: it was I think it was a fairly recent higher.

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Speaker 3: Uh so he is. He won't be able to compete,

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Speaker 3: but Nola's Aaron. Nola's going to give it a shot.

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Speaker 3: So they apologize that. Yeah, he's not the bench coach,

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Speaker 3: but pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool for him. So all right, guys, more to come.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're thinking the release or trade Nick Castianos

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Speaker 3: before the end of the weekend. You know, guys are

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Speaker 3: trickling in quiet. Kylech Warber rolled in at the end

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Speaker 3: of camp today. You know, J t Rio Mutas obviously here,

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Speaker 3: Brandon marsh is here, a bunch of other guys and

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Speaker 3: so we'll see yeah, see, we'll see you.

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Speaker 2: Later this week.

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Speaker 4: All right, don't forget the sunblock.

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Speaker 6: I won't thank you, Okay, smelling later, Smelling Jim.

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