WEBVTT - Mick Shots: More Than Just A Draft 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:17.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:21.320 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:31.680 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.680 It's another beautiful Thursday morning. The sun is shining. It's 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.800 a great day to have another mix shots with Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.680 Everson Walls, I'm Danny Sarak and although we all are 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.199 all isolated and we're not together, I'm so glad we're 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.239 able to still do this podcast. It's so good to 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.559 see your faces. You know what it feels like we're together. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.400 You know, we've been getting ready for the show and 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.319 talking for about fifteen twenty minutes, so I feel like 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.400 I'm just across the table from you guys. Everson, I 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.960 feel isolated. I'm in a room by myself. I feel 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.319 like I'm in a cave. But it's still good to 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.360 see you guys. Well, just the way, we've been able 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.920 to do all of our podcast virtually with the help 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.120 of our engineers and our great, our great staff. You know, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.160 we've got Chris Beam and Matt Kent helping us out 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.440 with this, the Cowboys coaching staff and scouting department has 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.920 been working closely with the IT department, doing all of 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.720 their interviews and meetings virtually. And last week the NFL 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.440 had announced that this draft is going to be all 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.880 virtual and they're actually going to be doing a mock 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.560 draft to kind of run out some of those kinks 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.520 because as great as technology is, we know that it's 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.560 not always the most reliable. So hopefully those mock drafts 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.319 will be able to help things run more smoothly. Because 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.440 the draft is only one week away from today. You 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.000 know what, God blessed the Internet because if we didn't 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.280 have the Internet, we wouldn't be doing all this stuff 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.920 and there probably wouldn't be a draft that we could see. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.520 So it's a good thing. Twenty years ago or so, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.040 this thing got really popular, and that's the way this 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.640 whole thing's gonna work. And you know, as I've been 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:12.360 telling people, Danny and Everson, that probably the most valuable 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.240 people in this draft will be the IT departments because 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:20.679 they gotta be perfect. They can't make a mistake. Well, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.600 I tell you what, the way my draft situation went, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.240 it's pretty much what they're going to be looking forward 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.480 to I didn't get drafted, so hey, you know, they 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.840 just brought me my contract in my dormitory, you know, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:35.680 so this is kind of good. This is gonna be 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.519 almost like a free agent experience. Please guy, But they're 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.400 gonna get paid big money. As much as I love 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.240 seeing that first round and everyone goes up on stage, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.920 I do love seeing those videos of when the players 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.000 are at their homes and they're surrounded by family and friends. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.920 Now it'll be a little different. You can't have a 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.320 party of forty fifty people they're celebrating. But I do 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.560 love seeing those videos of when they get the phone 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.000 calls and you're just surrounded by your closest family and friends, 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.160 and it's really intimate, those people who have been there 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.280 with you every step of the way to get getting 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.960 up phone call. Well, guys, that will not What I 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.680 will not miss is looking at all the crazy suits 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.280 that they're going to be having on as they walk 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.720 up to the podium and get their head and they 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.640 meet the commissioner. I will not miss the colors. I 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.799 will not miss the ostrich shoes and loafers that they're 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.959 going to have long. Yeah, you know what they might 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.160 wear the same suits at home. What you think everyone 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.720 will be dressed up at all? And absolutely right, Mamily Sunday, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.400 Easter Sunday, They're gonna be looking like Easter Sunday and 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.800 they're gonna be all dressed up in the living room. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.080 You know, guys, this almost reminds me of the first 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.960 draft I sort of took place, or took part in. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.520 It was back before ESPN and any of the TV 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.480 stations started broadcasting, and there was no radio. It was 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:03.400 back in nineteen seventy nine. I thought you gonna say 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:08.240 nineteen seventeen. That's what it sounds up nineteen seventy nine. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:14.880 Emmerson at Kelen Winslow. I was in Columbia, Missouri, and 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.320 the Cowboy, the Missouri tight end Kelen Winslow, was expected 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.200 to be a first round draft choice. So he invited us, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.039 the guys that were covering the team, invited us over 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.039 to his apartment to wait for him to get the 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.599 phone call so we could be there, right. So we 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.280 all show up at his apartment and so it's at 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.560 the end of the semester. He had his phone turned off, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.800 he didn't have any phone service, and he's like, how 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.520 am I going to find out right. So we ended 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:48.400 up going into the newspaper newsroom and we were watching 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.240 the draft on the APT teletype machine, and you know, 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.920 it would come over that, you know, at number two, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.800 so and so took somebody. At number three, so and 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.400 so took somebody. And I could see the life was 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.400 draining out of his face because it got into nine 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.200 and ten and he hadn't have been drafted yet, and 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.120 it was like, oh, this is starting to get embarrassing, right, 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:16.200 and then twelve rounds. Then it was seventeen rounds back wow, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.159 if you can remember, imagine that. So it got to 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:24.280 the pick number eleven in the first round and it 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.120 comes over the teletype machine, the ap wire machine and 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:33.520 says San Diego Chargers select Missouri tight end Kellen Winslow. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.880 And it couldn't have gone to a better place, right, 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.120 remember with uh the offense that they were the air 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:46.240 Correale and the Chargers. Yeah, and he's thinking, oh man, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.440 I am a tight end in the slot, right, And 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.320 so he's real calm, and he does the whole interview 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.720 and everything, and we walked outside of the newsroom outdoors 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:01.200 and he let out the biggest blood curdling yell. You 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.880 ever seen. He was just screaming, celebrating, right, And it 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.240 went from how am I going to find out how 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.560 I get drafted? And we figured it out and that's 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.800 how he found out. Watching it in the Missouri and newsroom, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:22.599 It's almost like you guys were dealing with pigeons back then, Maggie. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.440 I have no doubt in my mind that the players 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.560 being drafted probably don't even turn their cell phones off. Ever, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.120 they just leave them on and they continually charge him. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.360 So that doesn't worry me. With the Cowboys guys, there 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.039 seems to be news and I'll put that in quotes 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.239 pretty much every week, right, And this week the news 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.640 was about quarterback Dak Prescott, and it wasn't about whether 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.600 or not he's going to sign that franchise tag or 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.839 if he had a new deal. It was reports that 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.200 he had had a large party and had people over 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.159 at his house and that the cops were called to 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.560 break it up, and he made a statement saying that 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.960 that wasn't sure at all that he was following the 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.640 guidelines of having ten or fewer people. They had brought 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.640 food in. There was a picture that was I think 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.919 originally said it was at his house it was a 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.360 table that was set with napkins and everything else you need. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.360 It turned out to be a picture of the restaurant 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.320 they had ordered from, and it just you gotta think, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.400 like to other quarterbacks and other teams deal with this 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.960 kind of stuff. If you don't play for the Dallas Cowboys, 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.400 welcome to be in the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. I gotta 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:29.880 safe spags that he's been half he's been drawing a 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:36.000 little bit of attention to himself by having these closed 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.559 door practices with this right, right, have you been seeing 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.440 those Well, yeah, I have seen it. And again I'll 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.000 guarantee you other quarterbacks can be doing this, right, But 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.000 if you're the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, you gotta 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:55.320 understand the scrutiny you're under. And if you think about it, previously, 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.880 all his scrutiny has been good, right, everything's been great, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.640 the charity, this this and this. Uh And now suddenly 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.800 I think he's coming in the realization that when you're 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:13.080 the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, you don't have a 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.800 personal life anymore. Everything you do is under scrutiny. No 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.560 matter what you do, what you say, I mean, Tua 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:26.360 is help holding workouts, right, and no one's criticizing him 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:32.880 because it's interesting, right, But it's the Cowboys quarterback. And 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.240 think about it. Go back to Don Meredith. You know, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.720 he found it out. Craig Morton found it out. I 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.720 think the only guy that really escaped this and I 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.719 didn't live through it was probably Roger Staubach and he 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.120 was so squeaky clean and they probably couldn't find anything 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.320 about him. Well, you know Rogers, Rogers, Rogers pet Pete was. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.120 He loved basketball, right, and so he would always participate 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.800 in hoop it up back in the day. And he 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.880 didn't care who he was playing against. It could be 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.679 other football players, it could be brothers from the hood. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.680 Roger loved basketball. He loved the competition. Now, another quarterback 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.079 that did get into it with their organization, that was Mahomes. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.079 If you recall after the Super Bowl, he's out there 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.960 showing showing his who game. I think he dunked on 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.160 somebody or was going to the hole. And as soon 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.920 as the Chiefs found out about that, then they gave 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.000 him a call as well. And that was very recent 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.679 and it was like, no more basketball for you, mister Mahomes. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.720 And yeah, so you know what you could This was 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.360 before you know. I don't know if you were aware 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:47.280 or not, but the story goes when when Walk Garrison 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.760 first signed with the Cowboys. So we're going back into 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.320 the mid to late sixties. Uh, you know, he was 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.400 he was a rodeo guy. He was a cowboy before 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.640 he became a cowboy. And he was continu inuing to 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:06.160 participate in rodeos during the season, Like on Saturday night 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.960 he would he would leave the hotel and go perform 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:15.679 in Mesquite and then come back. And somebody, somebody did 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.920 a story. They say, those were men with men. Okay, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.120 that's when men were men. That's not these little powder 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.520 puffs to have these days. Somebody somebody did a story 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.720 of it, took a picture, put it in the paper 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.160 and said, hey, how neat is this? The Cowboys are 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.680 letting their player participate in the rodeo and then play 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:37.680 football the next day. Well Tom Landry found out about it, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.440 and it was like, Walk, there will be no more 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.560 rodeos than night before day. So can you know what 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.079 the rodeos, I don't know what's tougher the rodeos of 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.640 the game. I mean, which one do you think when 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.280 his life and he was safer. Yeah, he was death 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.360 whist man. This guy like a death whist. That was 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.520 that was crazy. That was crazy. I mean he was roping, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.920 so he you know, they roped the calfs, jumped off 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.960 the horse and kind of tie them up, right, and 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.280 it's like, are you kidding me? But yeah, that was 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.480 so Anyway, going back to the scrutiny, and if you 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.200 think about it, think about what Tony Romo went through, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.760 and he understood it that anytime he dated a celebrity, 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.840 you know that people found out. And then he went 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.880 on vacation, right found I mean you got Rodeo and 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:32.200 you have Cancoom. Okay, right, there's there's there's a big 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.120 difference between that. And we just went off on Romo 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:40.520 for going to Cancoom. So hopefully for for Dak, you know, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.320 this doesn't get him to the point where he starts 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:48.240 closing everybody off and becomes, you know, too self conscious 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.000 of everything he does, even in the locker room, because 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.600 if you think about it, what happened with Romo, I mean, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.640 he was the best quote ever and then he realized 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.280 I can't say anything either way because people can interpret it. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.600 However they want so he said a lot and said nothing, 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.440 and that was unfortunate, and you hope that doesn't happen 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:14.000 the dak with it now now he talks a lot. Yeah, right, 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.280 and he's getting paid a lot, so talking about making 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.520 up for it. I think. Earlier this week Tom Pessera 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.240 with NFL Network had announced that the NFL and the 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.600 NFLPA they're figuring out ways to do a virtual period 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.600 for the off season starting Monday, April twentieth. So facilities 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.320 won't be open, but this is going to a lot 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:37.280 of clubs to start having meetings and going over plays 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.480 and schemes. And that's going to be really important because 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.160 the Cowboys have a new coaching staff and so they've 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.200 got a lot of things they need to work through 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.680 and they no longer have that advantage of having extra 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.440 time in this off season program compared to teams that 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:55.840 didn't get a coaching staff over overhaul. And so, Mickey, 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.720 what do you think is going to happen with Prescott 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.920 bring in terms of if he's going to sign this 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.600 franchise tag and if he's going to be logged in 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:09.280 on those virtual meetings? Yeah, you know what think about this? 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.160 You don't have to leave your house right you can 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.880 sit like we're sitting right now and turn on your 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:22.200 screen and be there as the meeting's going on. I 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.720 don't know how valuable those type of things will be. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.079 I'll let Everson kind of speak to that, But all 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.000 I'm thinking is they're going to pay you somewhere around 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.400 two hundred and fifty three hundred dollars a day to 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.080 sit there like we're sitting here right now, and you 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:46.320 don't have to do anything physical. I mean, I understand, okay, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.400 I need some leverage, and if I don't do this, 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.760 maybe they'll sign me to what I want. But is 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.959 it that valuable you think Everson to participate in those things. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.920 I think it depends on where you are in your career. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.320 You know. If you're talking about Dak, No, it's not 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.800 valuable at all, you know. I think I look at 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:09.080 this something where you know he understands the game very well. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.800 We all know that you just passed some more yards 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.640 than anybody last year. You know. I don't think taking 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.199 in a new system virtually, no, I don't think that 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.120 that will affect him at all. Now, if you've got 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.080 some quarterbacks that are trying to learn a whole bunch 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.760 of new things. They hadn't had a good year, They're 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.680 coming to a new team. Yeah, then all of a sudden, 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.400 you're you're looking at it as a very inconvenience. I 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.800 would say, but for Dad, No, I wouldn't think they 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.440 would make a difference for him at all. And I 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.800 got away Danny. He could turn this into a positive. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.920 So he could say, Okay, I'm gonna do this, and 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.720 I'm gonna take my perdam and I'm gonna go buy 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.640 lunches for the nurses and Baylor, Scott and White, and 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.680 he could be a hero. Right instead of causing us 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.600 think and say no, I'm not taking part in those things, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.400 he could actually turn the thing on without even showing 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.840 himself on the screen and listen, right, that's what I'm 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.440 going to sing. When I work with you guys, I'm 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.320 gonna do good. Scott. Well, ever since I have to 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.160 say I think I disagree with you about it won't 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.080 be valuable because I mean, Dak is still working with 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.880 Kellen Moore, he's working with Doug nus Meyer, who's not 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.040 gonna be the quarterbacks coach who was working with the 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.880 tight end. So he has some familiarity there, but this 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.359 is still otherwise a new coaching staff and Mike McCarthy 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.440 and dealing with a lot of different, different, little subtle 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.000 things in the game. And I do think that this 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.720 will be valuable. I think this the meetings and kind 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.040 of showing his face and all of that stuff. I 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.400 think this will be valuable for him if he is 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.440 on those calls. I understand the leverage of if this 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.000 role happening in person, he wouldn't be there more, you know, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.480 because he hasn't signed that tag. And but if you're 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.680 not having to leave your house and you're just logging 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.720 in and you're trying to you know, the meetings are 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.480 what's important for him to make sure that everyone is 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.480 on the same page. Assuming the season starts, it's on time. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.360 So I think it would be valuable for him to 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.640 show his faith in those I think that takes the 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.040 value away just a little bit. I don't think we're 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.000 going to have a season this fall, and so there's 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:16.120 no urgency in this regard the fact that everything is changing, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.640 the fact that he has to do this all virtual. Well, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.720 that also the same reason that I think the season 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.920 is going to be in jeopardy because of everything that 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.120 we're dealing with. If they were coming up for the fall, 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.360 you might be right, you might have a case, Danny, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.520 But I think that everything is going to be pushed 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.520 back to where eventually they're going to have the meetings 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.720 that they need to have before this season even starts. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.800 But at this point, at this point, I just don't 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.640 think it's that important. You know. I think I kind 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.320 of agree with sort of with both of you. I 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.320 think it would help to be a part because they're 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.840 going to probably be putting in some new stuff, But 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.320 I don't think it's going to help to the point 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.640 that if he's not there, it's going to create leverage 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.880 and the Cowboys are gonna go, Okay, yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.159 we're gonna sign you to this because we want you 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.480 to be part of these meetings. He's not going to 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.320 gain any leverage by doing it. All he's getting himself 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:17.600 is some poor publicity about the whole thing. Well, we've 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.480 got a lot more to talk about still. 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The guide includes all the 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.399 information and analysis you need for the cowboys upcoming draft. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.960 Get your digital copy today for only four ninety five. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.280 Find out more at Dallas Cowboys dot com, Forward, Slash 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.520 Star and Danny Everson. This isn't quite a read, but 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.399 I just wanted to tease the story feature story that 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.560 I'm going to have up today on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.960 It's taking a look back at the nineteen ninety draft 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.880 thirty years ago, and it will be thirty years ago 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.600 next this coming Wednesday, when the Cowboys made the decision 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:31.480 to draft Emmett Smith, and everybody thinks, oh, look what 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.200 the Cowboys did at number seventeen, they got Emmett Smith. Well, 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.159 there's a backstory there that I think everybody that's not 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.840 familiar with that draft will be surprised on how the 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:47.240 Cowboys basically tried to do everything they could to not 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.199 draft Emmett Smith, and in the end they said, ah, 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.600 you know what, let's just take this running back from 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.760 the University of Florida, So pay attention. I think it's 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:03.000 a pretty interesting also. Kind of after that draft thirty 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:08.280 years ago, Everson Walls made a big decision. The Cowboys 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:12.920 basically told him that they weren't having him back. I'll 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:17.560 let him explain that story. It was nineteen ninety and Everson, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.080 you had a bunch of teams interested in you, and 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.159 you took a while before you made the decision on 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:27.640 where you were going to sign and continue your career. Yeah, 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.680 that was thirty years ago. Wow, that's great. I think 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:35.880 my head was great even then. But now I recall 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.960 a couple of teams. That was the Seahawks. The Seattle 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.560 Seahawks wanted me badly. That's when Tom Floyd's was the 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:50.000 GM there, of course, of the former Great Raiders coach, 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.320 and he had moved up to Seattle change teams and 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.640 he had the GM job up there. And I had 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.280 never worked I never worked out on Sam and the 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:05.800 base turf as that was the weirdest workout I've ever had. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.840 The turf itself was sand based and it had lumps 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.280 in it. You know, it wasn't even it had lumps 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.760 in like like it was natural grass or something. So 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.920 I'm thinking to myself only in Seattle can you have 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.920 sand based turf. I don't think any other team ever 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.440 had that. I went up there and worked out. Tom 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:28.840 wanted me bad. I knew at that time I knew 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:30.760 where I was going. I acted like I didn't know 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.080 where I was going, but I knew exactly where I 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.200 was going. I was not going to go to Seattle. 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.640 I knew, I knew where my plans were. I had 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.720 to play behind that front seven they had in New York. 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.399 There's no way I was and I'm pretty sure I 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:47.919 made it right decision. So I noticed before deleting up 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.520 to the draft, when I was researching the image story 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.320 that we were writing about you and the decisions you 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:57.320 had to make, and it looked like the Giants or 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.000 the Seahawks wanted you to decide before the draft so 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.960 they could alter their draft accordingly. And then at the 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.600 last minute I think I read or I don't know 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.560