1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He's Talking Cowboys training 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the Star 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. It's just not the same when Mickey 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: isn't here to wave at the camera as we kick 7 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: off Talking Cowboys. We expect his arrival shortly, I would think. 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: And this is a terrific Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys. 9 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: And it seems like it's been forever since we have 10 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: been in this room. It's been since last Friday, the 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: day after the big win over the New Orleans Saints. 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: And things have happened since then, including an NFC East 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: showdown of sorts last night that leaves the Cowboys all 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: alone in first place in the nfcast. Brian brought us 15 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, how y'all doing doing well? I think that 16 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: ended up okay for you last night, didn't It? Is 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: that the way you wanted it to play? Um? I 18 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: think we said just talking about it, Yeah, probably want 19 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Philly to win that game. You didn't know that the 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Redskins would be down to their third quarterback where they 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: signed a week ago. So, you know, terrible for Colt McCoy, 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: but that works probably in the Cowboys favors on paper, Yep. 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Never cheer for injury, but that yeah, you never do, yeh. 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I don't think you should 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: have cheered for either of those teams last night. Just 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: take care of your own business. You've you've earned that 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to just take care of your own destiny. Right 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: They're the Eagles and the Redskins. You don't cheer for 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: either one of them. Fans were struggling with that last 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: night on Twitter. It seemed like yep, but now the Cowboys. 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: The Cowboys with that one game lead on both the 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Eagles and the Redskins, and with a win over Philadelphia 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: three twenty five Sunday afternoon at AT and T Stadium, 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys can be two games up on Philly and 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Redskins play Giants this way? Who do they play this week? 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I gotta check it out. But anyway, regardless with the 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: injury situation, as Rob mentioned, with the Redskins, they're dead 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: with Mark Sanchez at quarterback and they don't even have 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: another quarterback on I can't believe they went all season 40 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: without a practice squad guy somebody. Yeah, and then once 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: Alex Smith goes down, they still didn't bring in another 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: even a young guy. They've worked out a bunch of 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: guys like the tj JA yelling Clemens lling Clements. Yeah, 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: they worked out a bunch of guys. So I don't know, 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: they'll probably go to the same group of guys they've 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: already worked out. So and they play at Jacksonville on 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: all right, now they got the Giants and then at Jacksonville. Yeah, 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: so there you go. Mickey Spagnola, how you doing. We 49 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: missed your a wave to the camera at the beginning 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: of the show, and there's the salute from Mickey. Guys, 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: not want to tie last night. That was not what 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: you were rooting for. That's the other possibility these days 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And after you saw what Philadelphia did do, 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: wish Washington had one no, no, okay on Sunday, and 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: you'll be wishing, all right. So, so if if that 56 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: scenario played out and the Cowboys were they weren't gonna 57 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: win with Mark Sanchez playing quarterball. I didn't say that 58 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: said before the game started Philadelphia. Philadelphia has Houston and 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: the rank that they play at the Rams next week 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and they've got Houston at home, and then the Red 61 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: skin Absolutely, Rob's right, go take care of your game. 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is take care of your business. Now, 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: I kind of get your point in that, you know, 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for, because this is a 65 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Philly team. Now, it's won consecutive games for the first 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: time all season. They got Sproles back, scored a touchdown 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: last night. They look better. They have flaws, they got issues, 68 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: and they've got they've got issues in the secondary issues. Um, 69 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: but all it takes, like all it takes is a 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: win at and T Stadium Sunday. And this thing is 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: is even they're the two. They're the team that was 72 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: two games behind you, right, No, they're one game back. 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: They were two games they were they were, yes, exactly, 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: you get Washington demand they were. If they lose, yeah exact, 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: they lost, yeah, yeah, that would mean you'd get a 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: cushion and then the Redskins would be even with you. 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: And if the Redskins had a quarterback. They're closing schedule 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: against the Giants at Jacksonville at Tennessee and against Philadelphia 79 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: is appears to be on paper to be much easier 80 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: than what the Eagles face. Yeah, but they were much 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: good enough to win all those games, even with Alex 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Smith in there or Colt McCoy. They weren't winning this division, 83 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: and they were up. They were up in this oh yeah, 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: and they were fading quickly. Okay, well they lost their quarterback. 85 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: That hurts seeing it's never good, that's my point. Okay, 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: which quarterback would you drink? Watching that game? Wentz? Watch 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. I saw you leaning on the bar 88 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: like you were. Oh, that's try that What a big 89 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: night it was. We bury the lead here went Oh, 90 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: don't go there. We don't even talking about a holiday party. 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: Were you enjoying yourself? Are you taking notes? Taking? Just 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: answer the question, McCoy, you would rather McCoy than Wentz? Rather, 93 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: what which quarterback has a better chance of leading their 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: team to the day? I said, I'd rather face McCoy. Then, yeah, 95 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so you want them to 96 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: win because you got McCoy the rest of the way, 97 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia wins, they got Wentz the rest of the way. Fair, Okay, 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Philadelphia is not the same team and there and 99 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Brian's right there, Philadelphia is not the same time. Yeah, no, 100 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is a very beatable football team, but desperate team 101 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: theory desperate. They're gonna give it everything they got Sunday. Yeah, sure, 102 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: they absolutely will. And then if they if they can 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: pull it off, it's tied, and you're right, they gotta 104 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: go win. A couple of feel what if you can't 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: go out and beat philadelp if you at home, you know, 106 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: and you put yourself in this position with a four 107 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: game winning streak, then that's on you. Yeah, but at 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: some point you're gonna lose. Oh jeez, Mickey, Well you 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: gonna pick against Are they gonna go again some last time? 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: Are they gonna go? And they played Philadelphia? They picked? 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: You picked against someone? They could? They're gonna go eight? No, 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: they could? Okay, all right, what's the record with Amari Cooper? 113 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Now they're going twelve? And oh, Mickey, I said they're 114 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: going twelve and after after they fell to three and 115 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: five and I researched Dak Prescott and they haven't they 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: done enough? Losing for you earlier this year? This is 117 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: this is like the Giants in eighty six, or it's 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: kind of like the Cowboys in seventy one when they 119 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: won ten straight to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, yep, 120 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: they won it that year. Answer your question, they're four 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: and one with a Mariy Cooper. Yes, team, they're a 122 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: better football team now. Oh I agree. I'm not saying 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: they're not, but I'm saying it's something you're saying they're 124 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna lose throwing a clunker. Okay, would you take three 125 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: and one right now down the stretch? How about Tennessee? 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: Is that a clunker for you? It was? That wasn't there? 127 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: You go there? Let's move on to see here folks 128 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: trying to win football games, all right, Jerry Jones was 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, wait a second before we get to Jerry Jones. 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: So did you have a good time? Yes? I did? Okay, 131 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: how you sat there at the bar and watched the 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: whole game? You didn't socialize with anybody. I saw you 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: go to the dessert area. You enjoyed that I ever 134 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: touched watching See he didn't. He didn't even know because 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I didn't touch any dessert. What were you eating out 136 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: of a cup that was a mashed potato? Oh? You 137 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get a plate. It was now they given to 138 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: you in a cup bar. Oh okay, So he didn't 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: even know. He didn't even go around. I was watching, 140 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: was socializing, No, he wasn't. He was standing there watching 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: the Emerald City. Emerald City was there. Oh yeah, great band. Yeah. 142 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna watch the game on tapes 143 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: this morning. But Mickey was sitting there like he was 144 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: seriously like he was some like uh some I don't 145 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: want to say, a stockbroker with his tie and done watching. 146 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, the game on at the bar, Ty wasn't undone, 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: and Henry and I were watching, and Henry was telling 148 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: me what the play was going to be before the snap. 149 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: That's his team, he's always working. He was amazed. So 150 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: that's where Romo learned it. Yeah what's that? Yeah, yeah, 151 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: to call the player Henry. Henry saw how lined up 152 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: with two backs or two wide receivers wherever, and he goes, 153 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: that's a run play. Yeah. And then he saw the uh, 154 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 1: he's the advanced guy for that team. That's the left tackle. 155 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: The left tackle was on his toes. Yeah, and he goes, 156 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: this is a pass play. At He was right. It 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: was great enough football to know that I don't sit 158 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: there and analyze the foot How it was okay? The 159 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: sushi bar was great? There you go. Who had the 160 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: best outfit? There was some there were some outsea what 161 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys player? Oh, you were talking women? Guys don't have outfits. 162 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: I know. I said that. Steve Dennis once said said 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: to me something about out an outfit? Did I said? 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: I said that the same thing. Women wear outfits. Men 165 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: don't wear outfits. But who had the best coat? O? 166 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Rico Gathers had a I kind of don't know what 167 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: he was doing with his He had a like a 168 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: kind of a I don't know, it was like an 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: animal print, Yeah, like a sweater that It was really 170 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: wasn't festive, but if we were, you know, we were 171 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: hanging out like at the zoo, you know, it was 172 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: kind of like but he kind of had a big 173 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: animal print thing working. I wish I could eat nice coats? 174 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Did they okay? All right? How about Layton? He looked 175 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: pretty normal. He was just did you see his Instagram 176 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: post my wife had in that last night? All right? 177 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: You describe it? It was was it a some kind 178 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: of wolf number? It was like shoulder or something yes, 179 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: with his wife. Yeah, not an eight wife, his girlfriend. 180 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I guess fiance, I believe me. Something like that. Well, 181 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: he said his post was the wolf and his fox. Ah, 182 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. That's a great caption. He did 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: not wear that's the party, I don't believe. Well. I 184 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: took a picture of it and it looked like they 185 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: were either at the party or going to the party. 186 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: The Yeah, he didn't have it. He didn't have it 187 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: at Sating about ten fifteen feet from me while I 188 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: was watching Emerald City. As Mickey was saying, and as 189 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: as the fashion police, there were four women there that 190 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: had the same outfit on. That's what Mickey was at 191 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: the bar do it? And they weren't cheerleaders. They were 192 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: he was the fashion police at the bar. Oh, how 193 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: often does that happen? Like you go buy the same 194 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: pant suit that That's horrible, Bill, Move this thing along, 195 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: going growing growing, I'm not not just growing up but 196 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: also the father of three daughters. That is horrible, horrify 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: it is, Yes, all right? H Jerry Jones on the 198 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Fan this morning, Um, what's being tweeted out about Sean Lee? 199 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Did you gather anything? I was not able to listen 200 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: to Jerry this morning, so someone filled me in on 201 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: what he said. Go ahead, Rob, go ahead that I've 202 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: already talked about it once. Okay. He said he anticipates 203 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: Sean Lee working back as a starter, being part of 204 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: a three man rotation. I guess, you know, we leave 205 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: out Damian Wilson, who does get snaps here in this defense. 206 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: But with Layton with Jalen, he thinks it's a great problem. 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: They'll figure out roles for all guys. And you know, 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: he just wanted to emphasize obviously, Sean Lee. Let's not 209 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: forget about the caliber player he is when he's healthy. 210 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: But they certainly don't want to rush him back. And 211 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if for sure he'll be back this week. Yeah, 212 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Sean leaves a Philadelphia equal killer, though I'm sure he 213 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: would love to come back for this party. Yeah. Did 214 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: he come back the first time for the Philly game 215 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: and got hurt? I can't remember it was a division game. 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: It was either Washington or Philly. That no, because he 217 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: was probably it was Philly it was Philly. Yeah, but 218 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: his career, he's his career is he's played really well again? 219 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Now he missed he missed missed the Philly game. Yeah, 220 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: he's traditionally though he's played very well against the Philadelphia Eagles. 221 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: It was Washington. He turned back before the bye. That's turnovers. Now, 222 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: he came back. He came back against Tennessee. He came 223 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: back against Washington, played seventeen snaps against Tennessee and came 224 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: back against Washington. Yeah not Philadelphia. Yeah, okay, yeah, say that, 225 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: but I just said that. I said he came back 226 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: against Washington. Anyway, I heard Philadelphia, all right. Anyway, that's 227 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: who we're playing this week because I think fans the 228 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: reason why that question was asked on the fan is 229 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: that I think there's fans out there they're like, oh no, 230 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to see Layton. I want to see 231 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: this kid grow. But look Sean Lee when he's right. 232 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I think Jerry said it this morning. There's nobody better. 233 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: So they got to figure out a way, and I 234 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: think they will. They were doing it, they were doing 235 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: it before. We talked about that, right. But the argument 236 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: people say was that Vanderesh was not playing at this 237 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: high of a level before they made that's when they 238 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: were doing the rotation and he wasn't. So is that 239 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: is that your is that. And I'm from the school 240 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: of and people will kill me for saying this too, 241 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: because you know, they'll say, well, why did they do 242 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: this for Romo? Why didn't Romo get his job back 243 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: when he was injured, you know, and came why why is? 244 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Why is Sean Lee all of a sudden getting his 245 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: job back and Tony Romo didn't get his job back? 246 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: But that's just that's for a whole other other day, 247 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: another story. But it's different in that with with linebackers, 248 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: you can play both of them throughout the course of 249 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: a game, no question, and the quarterback you can't unless 250 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: you want to do what the Cowboys did in nineteen 251 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: seventy one and alternating place that they and when they 252 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: do the next week they and then they went next 253 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: week they went with Starbak. They took an k later 254 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: they want I believe that they lose that game. They 255 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: lost that game. The quarterback shuttle twenty three to nine, 256 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: shuttle the buyers, and then they shuffled that out the 257 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: door in Saba. Was the rest is history? You know what? 258 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: I think that, Like I said, I understand the argument 259 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: about vander esh not playing at the level that he's 260 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: playing now when they were rotating, I get that, but 261 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: I also I also know the type of playmaker that 262 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Shawn Lee is. I know the instinctual player that he is, 263 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: what he brings. Sure, there's a possibity of him getting hurt, 264 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: We've seen this before. But I want Shawn Lee on 265 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: this field. I do. And if you could find a 266 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: way to get vander esh Joseph, I mean there's things 267 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: they can do. They can use Jalen Smith as a rusher, 268 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: they could play three man line, There's different packages they 269 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: can get into. We've seen it allowed this to happen. Yeah, 270 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: this is not going to be one guy just completely 271 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: standing over there for fifteen snaps? Who brought up Bill? 272 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Did you bring that up? The long touchdown drive? That 273 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: long touchdown drive? Yeah, Vanderha Yeah. Shawn Lee was on 274 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: the off the field for fourteen plays. Fourteen and the 275 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: only time he came back on them, and that was 276 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: his second consecular line play, right, but that was the 277 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: second consecutive possession that Shawn Lee was not on the field. 278 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: H was Shawn Lee started that game right, then he 279 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: was off the field for one possession and then the 280 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: long possession. It was all vander Esch on the field 281 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: until the goal line play right at the end. And 282 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: let's be honest, when he does come back, whether it's 283 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: this week or the week after, maybe I don't think 284 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to throw him out for sixty snaps anyway. No, 285 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to do that. They're gonna try to 286 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: manage him to get him what they hope to the 287 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: playoffs and have him ready for postseason. I would think 288 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: now they have a luxury. Now they have a rookie 289 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: who's playing at a Pro Bowl level and Jalen Smith 290 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: is playing out. I think both guys deserve Pro Bowl 291 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: votes for what they've done this year. It's it's it's 292 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: a and this is nothing against Anthony Hitchins, who did 293 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a good job when he was here. But this is 294 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: a deep group unlike we've seen in years around here. 295 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I think people overreacted to the starting part, like if 296 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: you start, you're gonna play all sixty plays. Yeah, and 297 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna go back because if you think about it, 298 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: when Sean right there, when he started getting hurt, they 299 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: were starting to use Vanderesh a little bit at middle 300 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: linebacker two right, and so it was a three person 301 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: share of two, and I think if you can get 302 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: back to that, that's fine, and you don't wear anybody 303 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: else out. It's not like their bench and the guy 304 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, Oens. I mean, please, if we'd seen Sean 305 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Lee's skills just completely erode, then it's a different story. 306 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: This is a guy that still can play at a 307 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: high level. The problem with Sean Lee, as we all knows, 308 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: he can't stay healthy. And if Sean Lee stays healthy, 309 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: well how much does Layton van I mean, they still 310 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: probably rotate, but it's Sean Lee and Jalen Smith playing 311 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: primarily with Layton Vanderesh coming off the bench. And maybe 312 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: they just delay Sean since they're gonna end up playing 313 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: twenty games and he can be ready for those last four. 314 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: That's right. They're not going to rush to the year, 315 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: especially since this is I don't think they've rushed it 316 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: at all. No, I don't think they've rushed it. I 317 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: don't think they've rushed it at all with him. I 318 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: think they've allowed him to get as healthy as he can, 319 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, you're gonna need him on the field. This guy, 320 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, you you talk about making plays, you know, 321 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: those those key plays third and five, fourth and two. 322 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: Whatever this guy makes those plays, Vanderish does two. Vanders 323 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: has done this for a handful of games. Sean Lee 324 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: has done this for a number of years. Let's not 325 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: forget that either out there Cowboy Nation, and I think 326 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: if we follow their history of guys coming back from injury, 327 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: it's not like they miss how many he's missed four games? 328 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: Five games? I mean now in a row? Um, well, yeah, 329 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: he's missed all the games they won four It happened 330 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: in the Tennessee games after that, the exact opposite of 331 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: last year. They lost every time. Yea last year and 332 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: so and so. Normally when a guy's missed that much time, 333 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: they get back into practice very limited and then they 334 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: start they play the next week. Right, So I'm thinking 335 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: maybe this week Indiana a little bit of something and 336 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: then as ready the following Just listening to the answers, 337 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: it didn't sound like, uh, it was a sure thing 338 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: that he's coming back after the long layoff. He had 339 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good game in Indianapolis eight years ago. Yeah, 340 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: it did real good game. Yeah, what about some about 341 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: injuries and stuff he did? Did Jerry mentioned anything about 342 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin that question? Didn't come up to him, okay, 343 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: and I Mike, Mike thinking, is he's getting close? Okay? 344 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: If Tavon Austin's goes, what's the status of Cole Beasley? 345 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: That's another one. I think that's another one you need 346 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: to think about because if you don't have Cole Beasley, 347 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to figure out is that Alan Hearns 348 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: or Cooper in the slot? That's your next trick to 349 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: have to figure out how you're gonna play that because 350 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: as much eleven personnel as they play, and both guys 351 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: have done it, can you can't trust me? You want 352 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: to put as many damn receivers on this field against 353 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia as you can. Beasley easily finished the game, didn't he? Yeah? Okay, 354 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: he So he's probably not He's had a lot of 355 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: time off now and we're gonna not probably not practice him. Right. 356 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: Oh he heard it on the key when he cleaned, 357 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: when he when he went for the die. Yeah, that's 358 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: made the Saints start, you having to use their time outs, right, 359 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's always encouraging that he was able to 360 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: basically finish the game. We'll have to see well, to 361 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: see when they get back to work, I just don't know. 362 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like you say, if he can't play, you're 363 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out how to work around. And 364 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Okay, And I'm also thinking about 365 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. I need something from my special teams. I'm 366 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna need something from my punt return here, guys, I'm 367 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: tired of this scene going for five six yards, you know, 368 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: and I know people you're starting to get stops. You know, 369 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: if you can find something that way to take advantage 370 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: of that, you know, if you could change to flip 371 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: the field with some guys. You know, Beasley, Hey, I 372 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: love you, but you know as a receiver, I don't 373 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: really love you as a punt returner. They need to 374 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: do something special teams wise to kind of these games 375 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: are getting too tight, too close, too tough. Need to 376 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: flip the field a couple of different times. That's why 377 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: I was asking about Beasley. I mean asking about Austin 378 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: in the slot, but I was also asking about Austin. 379 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, maybe take Lance Lenora off the field and 380 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: put you know, and I think that's what's going to happen, Lancel. 381 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: The ward is going to go back to being inactive 382 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna put you know, yeah, hopefully, you know, 383 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: but they need something in the return game here. They're 384 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: just not getting it. They're making people punt. You know, 385 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: all the football I watched over the weekend, it reaffirms 386 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: my philosophy on punt returns. Just everybody stand there, do 387 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: nothing and call for a fair catch, which is basically 388 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: what a lot of college teams are doing on kickoffs 389 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: now too, because you can now fair catch inside the 390 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: eighteen yard line everything. So like Texas they put little 391 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey back there because he's their best receiver or 392 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: he and Colin Johnson, and so his assignment is just 393 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: to catch the football and then they take it at 394 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line. Yeah, so do not try 395 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: to block anybody. Yeah, because there's so many penalties. You're 396 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: going to end yards from where you catch the ball. 397 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Odds are, even if you have a good return, odds 398 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: are you're going to start at your own ten yard 399 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: line because of the penalty. I don't know. I just 400 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: kind of feel like it's still a play a part 401 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: and you know, and and if you know, can this 402 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: offense go eighty yards? I think it has I think 403 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: it's offense has shown the ability now to least drive 404 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: the ball to your point. If you have a punt returner. Yeah, 405 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, yeah, I'm just saying you 406 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: don't have someone. It's I just go back to the 407 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: great experience that I had with Desmond Howard and how 408 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: that worked late in the year at Green Bay Super Bowl. 409 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, super Bowl. Yeah, but it worked because all 410 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, guys were getting blocks, guys weren't holding 411 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: got you know, Desmond Howard was averaging fifteen sixteen yards. 412 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: Think about the Cowboys having to get one less first down. 413 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: It's a drive. It's essentially another chunk play if you 414 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: can get a fifty twenty yard return. But Mickey's right, 415 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: I mean, every time you look up, you know, Byron 416 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: Jones gets called for holding, or Frasier gets block hits 417 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: for a block in the back or something like that. 418 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: But if you have a dynamic returner that already has 419 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: got the ball up the field, maybe you don't have 420 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: to hold blocks. Maybe you don't have to hit guys 421 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: in the back. That's what And the Cowboys have one 422 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: of those, Yeah, that would be Tavon. Yeah, I mean 423 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: I just need an explosive play in the kicking game. Actually, 424 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: other than roughing the kicker. Actually what you need is 425 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: two guys outside on the edge that can hold up 426 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: the gunners. That's why they have those corners out there. 427 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: No chance when those guys come running down full speed 428 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: and they don't get blocked, that that negates your returner. 429 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: I don't care who's back there. That's four minutes of 430 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: punt return talk. There was. Yes, we're just here on 431 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: Talkboys Talking Cowboys, and I don't know if you can 432 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: see this through my dirty iPad here, but Layton vander 433 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Esh last night with this let you see it. 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He 487 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: was covered a gone. He was hovering around. He had 488 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: like a cup of potatoes and he was just kind 489 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: of watching the kind of just kind of gently. Did 490 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: he have his disco jacket on? He thought he was 491 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: in some club in Chicago back in the day. Somebody 492 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: asked me, do you ever go out there in the 493 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: dance floor? And I said, yeah, several years ago. I 494 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: think I made the mistake of going out there. Studio 495 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: fifty four style. Yeah, the shirt with the collar, all 496 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: the dude Travolta stance, all three guys into the ground. 497 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: What's your go to move on the dance floor? Go 498 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: to move? He's a twirler square dancing. What's a go 499 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: to move? Yeah? You do the floss, you know what 500 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean? Do not close up personal? You know what 501 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to do. Mickey and I we should have 502 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: done this Mickey. We should have learned how to do 503 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: the kid and play dance, you know where they kick feet? 504 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Look up. I would give up a paycheck to see 505 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: y'all learn that and do that. Think there's this great 506 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: dance about what move? Is it from House Party? The 507 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: dance line? Yeah? House Party has this great if not 508 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: when I'm talking about going to YouTube and look up 509 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: how a kid play, they do this thing where they 510 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: kick their feet, they interlock and then they kind of 511 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: go around and yeah, it's a really cool way of dancing. 512 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: If you only had one dance to do. I've always said, Brian, 513 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: you have to do one dance that that's the one 514 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: I want to learn. Are you looking at it right now? Bill, 515 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm not. Well, you need to look at that line 516 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: dancing line. It wasn't that last night too? Yeah, line 517 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: dance last night? At least no one fell on the 518 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: drums this time. Mmmmmm. So how long did this party 519 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: go too? Until they kicked Mickey out? I was staying 520 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: at the food truck at the end, going I got 521 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: my cheer my cheesey cheese samwich. He was the last 522 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: one out. No I was not. It was still going. 523 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Young kids don't show up till ten thirty year olds. 524 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: Oh man, our team, our team, yeah yeah, the entire team. 525 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: When you're in college, you go out at like ten, 526 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: right right, yeah, same save money. Yeah, that's what you're 527 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: gonna do, the same thing. All right, You've got you 528 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: got like dog hair all over you. I just I 529 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: keep staring at it out. Yes, you know why, because 530 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: I had to take my bagle Romo to the vet 531 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: this morning. Romo had to carry Romo. I had to 532 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: carry Romo. No, Robo is having difficulties. Sorry, a couple 533 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: of days. He's gonna bring a tear to my eye here. 534 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm expecting a text, not a good phone call. 535 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: I think it's like a transverse process issue. Oh no, 536 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: that was a joke, but just got it, Just got it. 537 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: It took such a serious tone. Yeah, Oh, Romo's got 538 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: a collar bone problem. That's a good word that there 539 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: is another. Romo had at the transverse process issue in 540 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: his back, and he's kind of having those same issues. 541 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: He was fine on Saturday. He was out playing in 542 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: the yard. You know, he was scrambling around, he throwing 543 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: to his open retriever. Oh no, oh, the dad jokes back. 544 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: Just keep going right, that's okay. So anyway, prayers up 545 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: for Robo right now? Yes, okay, got a broadcast, Yeah 546 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: he does Westminster. He's not ready to start that podcast show. 547 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Sideline reporter. I talked to the collie today. He thinks 548 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: the child has a chance. You know, I think he 549 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: doesn't the future. He's got great lungs. I mean, my 550 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: neighbor's gonna test. He is very vocal. Okay, soar huh, yep, yep, 551 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. All right, okay, there we go, here 552 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: we go. I think it might have been that new 553 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: dog that the neighbor got. He likes to run the 554 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: fence and yeah, yeah, right, all right dog Cliff April. Yeah, um, anyway, 555 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: in a while since we've done this show, Tyron Smith 556 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: get an update on him this morning. Do you think 557 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: he'll start because they've been winning without him? Yeah right, 558 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: I just thought i'd throw that. Yeah, getting up. I 559 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: think he's good to go. Jerry, what did Jerry say? 560 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: I think Jerry's hinted that he was good to get. 561 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Jones says thumbs. All right, So he asked about 562 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: David Irving. Yeah, he's still got a high ankle spring. Okay, 563 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: that was really diplomatically. Well, yes, Nicky, Yeah, well that's 564 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: what Jerry. He said, it's a tough one to come 565 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: back from. What Yeah, sentually, everything's tough to come back 566 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: from when you're David Irving. Okay, so that was it 567 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: from from Jerry Jones this morning. Yeah, basically, all right, 568 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: we're updated on Jerry Jones. All right, you can give 569 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: us a call at eight eight eight eight five five 570 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: two two nine seven. And as I mentioned that, Jim 571 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: in Pasadena is on the line home of a Rose 572 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Bowl Ohio State in Washington. Jim, how you doing. Good morning, Bill, 573 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: how you guys? Good good. You're having a lot of 574 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: fun this morning until you up David Irvin. Yeah, exactly, 575 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: So you brought up Ohio State. Did they get shafted 576 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: as the consolation for them was the Rose Bowl? No? No, 577 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: it's no great place to be. Yeah. Yeah, Rose bowls 578 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: a great bowl. Hey, I looked at some tape on 579 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: the game and check this out. I counted fifteen completed 580 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: passes and thirteen of them the first defender to the 581 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: ball made the tackle and that is phenomenal, giving up 582 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: only about eleven yards to the second defender getting to 583 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: the ball. That's that's just great tackling. And then on 584 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the run, seventeen runs and sixteen times first defender made 585 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: the tackle. There was one time on the sleep he 586 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: didn't really gave up an extra yard. That's just great 587 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: job of tackling the fundamentals. Sean Lean, the linebacker Conndrum. 588 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: I just feel like the only way that goes south 589 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: is if we get too cute, and we'd all let 590 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: those backers get into the speed of the game and 591 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the flow of the play calling and we kind of 592 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: outthink it. You know, Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis are 593 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: playing well. I hate to take them off the field. 594 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: So what do you do a three man rush? Yeah? 595 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what? What are your thoughts on that? Well? 596 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Can I take it quick? Quick? Quick? Hey? Underful in Pasadena, folks, Hello, 597 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: are you there with me? With me? He's got that's 598 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: got a speaker? It doesn't have it here. We lost him. 599 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: He's gone. What's that? Bran had a question for Yah, 600 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brian, no problem. Tell me too cute, get 601 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: me too cute. Well, you can get too cute and 602 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: you start subven and you get caught with twelve on 603 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: the field. Or you know, a linebacker gets into the 604 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: flow of the game. He just innately understands what plays 605 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: coming next. He's in a groove and speed of the 606 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: game and he's seeing things clearly. But we get too 607 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: cute and say, well, Lee's got to be on the 608 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: field or Smith's got it on the field, and just 609 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: have a very specific role, and don't just put those 610 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: three players out there for the sake of having those 611 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: three players out there. I mean, Lewis is in a group, 612 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: Brown is playing well, don't it just there may not 613 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: be an opportunity to have Lee out there. I'm just 614 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, so spitballing here, and so don't force him. No, man, 615 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: but you're telling me how great they tackled Sean Lee. 616 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Pretty damn good tackler. Huh. But he wasn't in the statue. 617 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I just gave yet no. But but I'm just saying, though, Okay, 618 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: but he has been for night. Let's talk about his 619 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: career then. Okay, No, no, no no, no, no no, guys, I'm 620 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: not I think you're over You're now you're interesting. I 621 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: think you're getting cute here. Yeah, you're getting cue by 622 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: now you don't switch him by play Yeah, do it 623 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: by series. You don't have guys running in and out 624 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: every play point. Yeah. The other thing that you pointed 625 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: out out about Jordan Lewis, do you realize how many 626 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: plays he played in that game? Probably four eight eight eight. 627 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: You're halfway home, so you're okay, so watch you're taking 628 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: him off the field to put a linebacker on it. Yeah, 629 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: this was a significant situation where when they were in 630 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: third and long and montage your dime out there and 631 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: only one linebacker because of who number forty one, Elvin Kamara. Yeah, 632 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: you have somebody to run with him. You better figure 633 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: out who to cover that tight end with. That's going 634 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: to be your trick this week. Yep. Yeah, you better 635 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: figure that one out real fast and get ready for 636 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: that toss sweep coming down your throat too. Yeah. And 637 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: I thought Jeff Heaths did a great job this past 638 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: week just setting the edge and just been stout. Yeah 639 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: against the toss sweep, yeah better. Yeah, you better get 640 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: ready for that. That's the one thing that looks like 641 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: that people are going to start trying to do, you know. Yeah. 642 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, okay, thanks thanks for calling. Thank you guys. 643 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good thought, but we've we've 644 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: talked about it, just been to what cute was. I 645 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: was trying to learn what cute. I hear his point, 646 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: but we this goes back to Carolina. Sean would take 647 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: a series he's off, and they, I mean they do 648 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: it with Zeke. I mean they'll they'll put rod Smith 649 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: in the third series of a half or whatever it 650 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: like shake their head about that. Yeah, I know, I 651 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: don't want a series, yeah for Zeke? Yeah, yeah, I 652 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: get it. Man, he was limping in that game. I 653 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: think I think nobody nobody needed this long weekend more 654 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: than Ezekie Elliot. How many games did he play in 655 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: a row there? That? I mean, he was incredible numbers 656 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: and it was like what in all what twelve days? 657 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Based only three games? Three games eleven days. You can't 658 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: do that to running back and not in this day 659 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: in a five games in twenty five days. Yeah, I 660 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: think about the November. Yeah, no, you're right, Rob, No, 661 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: nobody needed this break more than him. I counted it up. 662 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: But Rod Smith's gotta played better, doesn't he? What's happened 663 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: to Rod Smith? Rod Smith in preseason games looked like, oh, 664 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: let's get Rob Smith some more touches. Maybe it's because 665 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: he hasn't got that many touches and he hadn't got 666 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: into a groove. You know, we're getting cute. Yeah, yeah, 667 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: you know you gotta give Zeke a breather sometimes. But 668 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: rod Smith gotta play better in four games games. Zeke 669 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: has had one hundred and fifteen touches four games. Four games. Yeah, 670 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: think about that, ninety one runs, twenty four receptions. Yeah, 671 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: and then not to mention the pass block and stuff 672 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: he's had to also do too. I mean, it's collisions, 673 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: things he's had to deal with. I don't know. I mean, 674 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: I just I wish there was some way to say, 675 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: okay when I wish you could feel better about taking 676 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: Zeke off the field. You know, I was critical of 677 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: the Redskins for not having a back at her third quarterback, 678 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, even someone on the practice squad. I mean, 679 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys, and as much as the 680 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys depend on the running game and on Zeke, to 681 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: only have Rod Smith as your backup, it's pretty remarkable. Well, 682 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: they could use older Wally as a single back runner. 683 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: But but he's okay, I mean I'm talking to I'm 684 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: waking on that, right, but it's a numbers game as 685 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: far as ross they're able to go along at wide 686 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: receiver whatever, you know, not having that third running back. Say, 687 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: here's the problem with it is when and if you 688 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: put Rod Smith in, you're immediately thinking, okay, they're throwing 689 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: the ball, right, and so they're kind of forced to 690 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: hand them the ball just to respect the run when 691 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: he's in, sort of like with Noah Brown. Yeah, before, 692 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: when he was in a wide receiver, it's like, oh, 693 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: they're running the ball, he's in the block. Well, you 694 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: you got to throw them the ball every once in 695 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: a while. I'm not against that at all, by the way, 696 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: and it's starting to work. Yeah. And I've been the 697 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: biggest critic of him being on the field. He's got 698 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: about twenty snaps these last couple of games, I think so. 699 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: But before all he was doing was blocking. So you 700 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: might have put a big blinking light out there. Run. Yeah. 701 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: It used to be what they did when Devin's Street 702 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: was here. If Devin Street was in the game, it 703 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: was it was a handoff. It seemed like everything were 704 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: throwing them. Yeah. Yeah. So when so if you put 705 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: Rod Smith and you know, it's almost like, okay, they're 706 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: they're they're throwing the ball, just just want him to block. 707 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 1: Just keep saying I wish it was better. I wish 708 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: it was a better you know, because there's plays. I mean, 709 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: they get in a little groove running the ball, and 710 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like that Rod Smith doesn't just 711 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't shown that power they showed the preseason. Maybe 712 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: those game they're playing like Cincinnati Arizona and he's like 713 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: running over people and you know, he's gaining an extra 714 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: three or four yards after contact, and I'm thinking, all right, 715 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: they they they've got now you can you can do 716 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: this and be okay. And he's just kind of played 717 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: He's played soft, and I that's you know, it's hard 718 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: to that shouldn't say that about an NFL player because 719 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: it's tough enough as it is, But boy, I expected 720 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: so much more. Maybe you know, maybe one of those games, 721 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: like how about him last year against the Giants, you know, 722 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: at the end of that in the way, I mean, 723 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: he's terrific. It was just an incredible player, and you're thinking, 724 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: all right, they got him a legitimate backup guy that 725 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: if they take you know, we were all thinking, uh, 726 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: you know what they where they were taking Zeke off 727 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: the field, where like, oh, this is just gonna be 728 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know with you know, Alfred Alfred Morris 729 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: was he was good, But I was thinking so much 730 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: more for Rod Smith. Rod had earned snaps over him 731 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: in something put him on the ship basically did Yeah, yeah, 732 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: I was just looking up Rod Smith last year year. 733 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: His game log the Giants win was incredible. The Giants 734 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: game will give you the hope that he was giving 735 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: you the hope. And then he had the good preseason, 736 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, and well he got an opportunity last year. 737 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: Of course it was during the Zeke suspension is when 738 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: he really got the opportunity. But he did get an 739 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: opportunity and the blowout win over San Francisco where he 740 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: had eight eight runs for sixty one yard seven point 741 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: six to carry that got him into maybe build his confidence, 742 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: got him into a groove a little bit. And that's 743 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm talking about. He's never had that 744 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: opportunity this year where you give him the ball, give 745 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 1: him a ball a few times, and maybe that's what 746 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: a running back needs to get. But he got that 747 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason. You guys watched enough football to note 748 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: Rod Smith does not look right. I'll be, I'll be, 749 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: I'll admitted, And I don't know if it's a confidence 750 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: thing where he's not hitting the hole. It's like they 751 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: handed the ball and he kind of goes sideways, you know. 752 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I just there was a there was a 753 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: downhill player in that body. I know there was a 754 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: downhill player in that body. But he gets hit, he 755 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: gets in it's minus one. Okay. It's like he's picking 756 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: and choose. I mean, the guy that could pick and 757 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: choose the way he hits the hole is Zeke. Zeke 758 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: has got the ability to finish forward. You know, Rod Smith, 759 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: you gotta show me you could finish four ward. Let's 760 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: look at Okay, here were these games last year and 761 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: during the suspension. Okay, three carries fourteen yards against Atlanta, Yeah, 762 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: eight carries eleven yards against Philadelphia. He went nine for 763 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: forty one, which is good against the Chargers, right, ten 764 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: for twenty seven against the Redskins. Not good. That game 765 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about the Giants. He went six for forty seven, right, 766 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: And then he was seven for thirteen against Oakland and 767 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: two for ten against Seattle. Yeah, so you know what 768 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: they need and they don't have it fullback. They need though, 769 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: they need that Lance Dunbar player. And I don't know 770 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: if it's Tavon Austin, but I and the only reason 771 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: I thought of this is, did you guys watch the 772 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: Chargers on Sunday? A little bit? No, a little bit, 773 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 1: a little running back from the North Coastern? No, no job, 774 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: said Clint Johnson. What what the heck? That guy's name 775 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: was number thirty two. I think, yeah, he was change 776 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: the pace guy. Oh he was hitting the hole, justin Jackson. 777 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it from Northwestern and and and he could 778 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: scoot and they couldn't keep up with his pace and 779 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: probably had his best game as a pro. They've tried 780 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: forever to get that guy though. I know, I know 781 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: that's been one of those Oh we're gonna keep Lance 782 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: Dunbar around, Oh, we're gonna and then he you know, 783 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: his history is almost as bad as Sean Lees. Yeah, 784 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: And I mean every time you want to sit there 785 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: and be happy, oh guy, this guy he's gonna and 786 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: then it's something happens and now you're you know, you 787 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: were you were you were being held hostage. I mean, 788 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: just in watching last night with scrolls back on the field, 789 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: for Philadelphia. Dunbar is available. He actually worked out, Yeah, 790 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: hed out earlier a year, Yeah, a few months ago. Yeah, yeah, 791 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: and it is Justin Jackson. Justin Jackson, Northwestern, said Johnson, 792 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: and of course from Melvin Gordon out then he got 793 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: his opportunity for the Chargers. All right, wait, so real quick, 794 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: So we picked the Chargers in the playoffs? Was it 795 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: you when we did a whole big Yeah? It was me. 796 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: I thought somebody pier picked the Chargers. I can't remember, Okay, 797 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: yeah it was. I tried to get my picks as 798 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: soon as I made them. Although I did pick the 799 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys to go eleven and five. Mm, what are they now? 800 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: They're seven and five? They got four games left? Still alive, 801 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: Stay alive, game winning. 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If I don't 890 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to you guys again? Happy holidays? 891 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, I just wanted to ask you guys. 892 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: The identity of this football team is defense and running 893 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: the game, running the ball. I mean that's what I 894 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: gather by how we play. But every time we get 895 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: into the red zone, it feels like we just lose ourselves. 896 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: Can you guys explain or at least tell me what 897 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: you guys see that they're doing that they keep I guess, 898 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: for a lack of a better way to put it, 899 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: choking on the red zone or inside when they get 900 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: into five. To me, if you get inside the five 901 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: yard line, run it. You got Zeke, you got those 902 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, you got Zack Martin that you just paid handsomely. 903 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. Every single time I get 904 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 1: in the red zone, I get that feeling of Hanks 905 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: like I don't know if they're gonna make it. I 906 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: have a feeling that they can drive the football down 907 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: the field once they get there. As a fan, I'm 908 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: just I'm nervous and I just want to see if 909 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: you guys had any inside and what's going on in there. Thanks, 910 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: well you should be because I'm nervous too. They are 911 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: four for nine inside the ten on goal the goal situation, 912 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: thank good? Last games. Yeah, and it's not good. And 913 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: I hope they don't ever get into first and goal 914 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: at the four again because they're like, oh for three 915 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, you know, to me, I'm all for 916 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: trying to run it in there, I really am. And 917 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm one of these guys say please, don't get cute, 918 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: and don't you know, they do some cute things every 919 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: once in a while. They have had a chance to 920 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: score on some cute plays, but it just you know, 921 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: the Noah Brown play where Dad kept backing up and 922 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: didn't get the ball to him but basically wide open 923 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: on a drop Yeah, that I just you know, you 924 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: talk about execution and it's so critical down in that area. 925 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: One guy misses a block, you know, you get a 926 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: tight end that misses a point of attack block, You 927 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: get a backside tackle that doesn't get a cut off, 928 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: You let a run through guy happen. You drop a 929 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: ball in the flat, you don't get the ball to 930 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 1: the guy on the drag underneath. These are all things 931 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,479 Speaker 1: that have been big problems for them, though. I would 932 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: like to see them physically try and do what they 933 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: used to do, and that's just run the ball. I mean, 934 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, and Nate watching the game with Nate, Nate 935 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: is the best. Nate's like, he goes, don't throw it 936 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: the first he don't throw it, and you know, and 937 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,919 Speaker 1: sure enough then you see and it kind of set 938 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 1: you back. And they've had some problems a little bit 939 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,479 Speaker 1: of protection down in that area too, which has been 940 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but they've had protection problems overall 941 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, and and especially when 942 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: he gets crowded down there. You know, it seems like 943 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: the receivers haven't helped. You know. This is where this 944 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: is where I would say, you do miss a guy 945 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: like Jason Witton. This is where Jason Witt is exactly 946 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: what my question is going to be. Yeah, this is 947 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: where Jason Witten would find space, would know how to 948 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: get open, would slide, you can get him to football. 949 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: They just don't have that guy that's that glass eater 950 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: down there. Use that term a lot, But that's a 951 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: tough guy that can find space make a play with 952 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: people on his back. They don't have that guy down there, 953 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: so running the football to me, is the best option. 954 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: But they they're still in search of trying to replace 955 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: Witton down there, and they don't have a you know 956 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: they I think that I think a Marie Cooper could 957 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: be a guy that can you know, Beasley. They but 958 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: yet they had Beasley wide open for a touchdown right 959 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: down there. I think it was Atlanta. He just dropped it. Yeah, 960 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: I know, and some of that's just execution. But yeah, 961 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: if you if you told me that they would have 962 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: the same struggles in the red zone against the Saints 963 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: and win the game, and win the game pretty decisively, 964 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't believed you. Now that also credits your defense 965 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: for getting a fourth down stop down there too against 966 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: New Orleans as well. But you know, in Philly right now, 967 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: they're saying the same thing. I guarantee you, because they 968 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: twice they were in the red zone last night, no points. 969 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: I think went through a pick. Yeah, and boy they 970 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: got stopped. They got stowed on that fourth down. Yeah, 971 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: trying to run on fourth down and getting stopped behind 972 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. So Eagles having the same issues. 973 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: The problem is is the defense knows exactly what the 974 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: caller knows. Oh, they're gonna run the ball. Yeah, so 975 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: they load the box and and and when you only 976 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 1: have to defend four yards, you can get pretty close 977 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmawhage with everybody. They don't have 978 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: they they haven't figured out how to loosen that up. 979 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: Now you can try and run about it. You said, oh, 980 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: it's that offensive line. Yeah, well that ain't the offensive 981 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: line the Cowboys had. Sure, there's no Tyrant Smith out there, 982 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: there's no Travis Frederick out there. You know, that's not 983 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: the same offensive line. See if Filo is out there 984 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: on one foot Lele Collins still inconsistent. Yeah, but they've 985 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: been running it. Yeah, but you get success space yea. Yeah, 986 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: it's not. But it has been a more physical group now. Yeah, 987 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: they like I said, I usually don't agree with Mickey, 988 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: but I agree with me this last game. They had 989 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: trouble control on the point of attack. They did so 990 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: the other games and wasn't right. It's the tight end. 991 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: It's the tight end at the point of attack. I mean, 992 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: this is where you miss James Hannah and Jason Witten 993 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 1: and those guys. Those guys that could get those blocks 994 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: at the point of attack, they just haven't got it yet. 995 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: With Dalton Schultz and Gathers. And if you throw Jarwin 996 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: in there and then and then the fullback in the 997 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: allback goes in there, and he does, he's not sure 998 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: where he fits. You know, it's hard to simulate that 999 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: stuff live in practice. And all of a sudden you 1000 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: get old Wally trying to search and find, and you've 1001 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: got backup Lineman trying to search and find, and you've 1002 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of search and find going on in there. 1003 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 1: You know, I think they need to use the an 1004 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: twine woods up the middle, just a human log like 1005 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: the bears bears right now. The other thing they don't 1006 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: have is they don't seem to have a threat on 1007 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: the outside to throw the basically jump ballad the back 1008 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: shoulder fade quarterback doesn't throw it. You know, we got 1009 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: so tired, I think with some of us got tired 1010 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: of seeing. Oh that's all they did with Dez. But 1011 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: it was a pretty good trick. It's a fifty fifty trick, 1012 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: right They don't have that guy. They can get up 1013 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: that high. So Matt Nagee with Chicago, he used the 1014 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: fridge junior. Yeah, Akim Hicks in for a touchdown run. 1015 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,280 Speaker 1: He also used Torek Cohen. He found a passer shorter 1016 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: than Chase Daniel to throw every time touchdown ass in 1017 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: that game. And yet in Philly last night they're booing 1018 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson or his play calling on the goal line. 1019 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, why didn't he just pull out the Philly Special. 1020 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: It would have quieted them pretty quickly, wouldn't it. I 1021 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: don't know, but penetrated the five yards behind the light 1022 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 1: they had. You talk about problems with blocking tight ends 1023 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: and stuff that Zach Hurt as good as he is. 1024 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: You you run behind him, You're you're taking your play 1025 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 1: calling in the in the in the life of their 1026 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: right there for sure. I mean they call the time 1027 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: out for one, and they take a break, and they 1028 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: come back and they try to hand it off and 1029 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: it had no chance. Boy, pissed off the Philly face. 1030 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: Can I ask a question of the panel here, just 1031 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: a player. We talked about players and stuff. Who are 1032 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: you more surprised it played well? Fleming or Jordan Lewis 1033 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,919 Speaker 1: in that game last week. Um, because that's what you're 1034 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, the last two weeks Flaming his 1035 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't killed you, but I was had help, Yeah, help, 1036 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: he had some help. But I wonder who who are 1037 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: you more surprised by their performance last week? And I 1038 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: know that Fleming played a ton of snaps. I mean 1039 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: he played all the offensive snaps, but who But who 1040 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: is the bigger? The bigger not whoa that? Where'd that 1041 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: come from? Not that I don't think Lewis can do it, 1042 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: but we talked about it Friday after the game. I 1043 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: thought he played more than eight snaps because of the 1044 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: fact that he had in the game. It was. It 1045 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: was incredible and the quality that the caliber guy he 1046 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: had to help slow down. Okay, we mentioned Kamara. That 1047 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: was really impressive. All right, let me do this then, 1048 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: how about I'll take I'll take I'll take Flaming out 1049 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: and put Anthony Brown in there. Who are you more 1050 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: surprised with Anthony Brown the way he played or George Lewis. Well, 1051 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: we've seen it from Anthony Brown before, we hadn't seen 1052 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: it from Lewis. Yeah, I mean Lewis was a third 1053 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,439 Speaker 1: round pick, and so yeah, we expect a third round 1054 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: pick to start getting it. Anthony Brown was incredible and 1055 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: I thought so too. But I think he's been lan 1056 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,439 Speaker 1: awfully well all year in the slot. I mean, he's 1057 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 1: his play has kept Lewis off the field really when 1058 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: you think about it, unless they go dime, which let's 1059 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 1: see what happened with Lewis as he had almost fifty 1060 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: percent participation in his eight snaps. He had a tackle, 1061 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: he had a pass defense, and he had the interception. Right, 1062 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 1: should have two interceptions. You should have had another. They 1063 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: get that BAF and that would have been fifty. Let 1064 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: me ask you this, are you worried about a Woozier 1065 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: this week against Philadelphia with what they're going to roll 1066 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: out there? How did you How do you think a 1067 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 1: Woozier played last week? I didn't think he was terrible, 1068 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 1: but you know that Philadelphia is going to attack him Jeffrey, Jeffries, 1069 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: Matthews take. You know that's going to be the attack. 1070 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: He just needs to stay aggressive. Okay, they are going 1071 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 1: to complete some balls. Let me ask you this is it. 1072 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 1: Do you think about playing Brown out there? Do you 1073 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: think about Brown instead of a Woozier this week. No, 1074 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: and and maybe Lewis in the slot. I mean, do 1075 00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: you think about that? Um, I'm asking a lot of 1076 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: questions here, and I'm saying I played as a unit 1077 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: last week. I don't mess with it. No, Yeah, I wouldn't. 1078 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: I was as we're trying to get Sean Lee back 1079 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: on the field here. Yeah, you know, well that's Tyrant Smith. Yeah. No, 1080 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: I think you. I think you roll with your group 1081 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: and you see how the game goes. But you do 1082 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: have that depth, you have that extra depth and guys 1083 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: that you know you can plug in there if you 1084 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: need to. And they they have taken Cheetoh out. Now 1085 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: that was more of an ankle thing, but they've they've 1086 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: taken him out before and gone with a different look 1087 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: before in the middle of the season. And I think 1088 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: they consider a Woozier to be one of their foundations, 1089 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: no question. I was just curious. I was just curious 1090 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: because I'm with you guys on the roll bit. I'm 1091 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm with that, But i'd know that Philadelphia is going 1092 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: to attack him. I know they're gonna attack him. They're 1093 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: gonna attack him, and they're gonna attack Uh, They're gonna 1094 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: attack Jeff Heath. How a surprised were you that they 1095 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: traveled Byron Jones several times? Yeah? I like that. I 1096 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: like that, But I don't know if you could do 1097 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: that against these guys because there's too many of them. 1098 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, they've got this is a three receiver team, 1099 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: and that is an indication there that they're willing. They're willing. Well, 1100 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: they knew they had to do something. Yeah, they knew 1101 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: they had to do something, right, They had to do 1102 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: something with Kamara, they had to do something with Thomas. 1103 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, you just can't sit there and I just 1104 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: wonder how they're gonna play against But that's how I 1105 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: want to know. Mickeyn mentioned Cheeto being more aggressive and physical, 1106 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: and he's done that in recent weeks. I think he's 1107 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: done a better because he's been in position to make 1108 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: plays this season and he's done a better job the 1109 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: last few weeks. I think of finishing those plays, and 1110 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: Bill's right, they have a lot of confidence. How about this, 1111 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: and travel you travel Byron Jones, who's done this before? 1112 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: You travel him with zach Ertz and let Brown play 1113 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: outside or Lewis play outside. That's interesting. Yeah, that's a 1114 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: that's an interesting thought because I used to be Byron's 1115 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: special right, yeah, specialty? Do you just say on third 1116 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: down or whenever you get him in long with second 1117 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: and third down and you just go ahead and say, 1118 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: we did we think that that's your You're the receiver 1119 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: that could beat us the most or it could we 1120 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: cause us the most problems. Who is covering Art's most 1121 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: and he first met Yeah, I thought it was gonna 1122 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: be I thought it was gonna be Woods, But it 1123 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: was Heath so and they and they, and that caused 1124 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: him to play a lot of single safety high. But 1125 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: you also need Byron on on the edge against some 1126 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: of those taller talented wide receivers too. I mean it's 1127 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: you know they've got Heath wasn't bad. They know where 1128 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: they four down play he made the tack we kept 1129 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: him from the sticks was a great play. Where they 1130 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: struggled is when they tried to zone Ernson's zone. Yeah, 1131 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: it was terrible. Yeah, see, I maybe Sean Leek can 1132 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: help that out. There was some society that believes that 1133 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: I would Yeah, maybe you're right about that. There's aside 1134 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: of me that they would say put Byron Jones on 1135 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: zach Ertz and and and then put the right corner 1136 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: if it's Lewis or Brown, you know, play them on 1137 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,959 Speaker 1: the outside and try and match that way. Let's cover 1138 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: all these guys the best you can. I think I'm 1139 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: not so much worried about Tate as I am. Jeffrey 1140 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: makes plays down the field. When you watched that they 1141 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: throw the ball to him. He's a down the field player. 1142 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Tate looks like they're trying to find a role for him. 1143 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're not quite got him that interesting. They 1144 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: trade for him, and then they can't find a role 1145 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: of trying to figure it out. Okay, and then finally, 1146 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: as we wrap up this edition of Talking Cowboys, I 1147 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: do have an update on Romo. He looks like he 1148 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: will not have to go on IR. He's not starting 1149 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: his broadcasting career as yet, but very limited activity on 1150 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: lots of meds for at least two weeks. So maybe 1151 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: we can get him back for Tampa Bay. There you go, 1152 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: next two weeks. It's good news. 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