1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: Hey Katie, good morning, welcome, Hey, thanks, good morning. What's 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: going on with this guy Clayton? On waiting by the phone? 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Trying to figure out why you may have been ghosted? 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Why do you think he's avoiding you? You know, I 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: have no idea. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: We matched and he got my number, asked me for drinks. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: It was nice and we had a good time with fun. 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: We actually ended up going back as place after. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: So now I'm confused because that all happened and he 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: hasn't reached out at all, Like even when I reached 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: out to him, he didn't answer, So I need your help. 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Yeah, I mean it's one thing to 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: meet someone from the dating apps because you never really 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: know what the chemistry is going to be like in person. 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: But it was good enough that you guys hooked up, 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: so I mean it's probably pretty safe to assume he 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: was into it, except then why wouldn't he call you 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: for another day? 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: Right? 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's call this guy Clayton. I'm gonna 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: play one song come back. We're gonna call it. We're 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna ask these questions. You'll be on the phone at 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: the same time. And I hope here is that we 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: can straighten this all out and set you guys up 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: on a second date and pay for that. Sound good, 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I hope. So yeah, let's see what happens next Part two, 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Avoiding by the phone after this song on the Fred Show. 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: The Fred Show is on the Radio Music Festival this 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: weekend in Vegas. It's on Hulu and it's on the 31 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: radio as well, and the iHeart app Big Sean's going 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: to be there. If you love country music, Thomas Rei, Ki, 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: The Herb, and Gwen Stefani, you'll be there. Doja, Cat, 34 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: Camilla Cabeo and more. Have us on Hulu and on 35 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the radio all weekend. Hey, Katie, welcome back. Let's call Clayton. 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: You guys met on one of the apps. You went 37 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: on a date. You thought the date went great, so 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: well that you wound up hooking up, which is oftentimes 39 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: a good sign. The problem is you haven't heard from 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Clayton since then, and you want to know why he's 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: ghosting you. Yeah, exactly, Okay, let's call him now. Good luck, Katie, 42 00:01:52,480 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: thank you. Hello. Hi is this Clayton. Yeah, Hey Clayton, 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling for the 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Fred's Show, the morning radio show, and I have to 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: tell you that we are on the radio right now, 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: and I would need your permission to continue with the call. 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Can we chat for just a second on the air. 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's cool, Thank you very much. We're calling 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: on behalf of a woman who I guess you matched 50 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: with and went on a date with recently. Her name 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: is Katie. Do you remember Katie? 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: Yeah? 53 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I do, Okay, so yeah, I do. Just that it 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: was already kind of low energy, and then it's like, 55 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: oh god, so what happened? Because she called us, dude, 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: and she was really describing what she thought was a 57 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: successful date and she thought she'd hear from you again 58 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: and says that you haven't reached out, So what's going on? Okay? Interesting? 59 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I haven't really been calling her back because on. 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Our date she was pretty aggressive, okay in what way? 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Like uh okay? 62 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 5: So like it started out fine, everything was going okay, 63 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 5: but then she's sort of invited herself back to my place, 64 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: which I'm not really used to. I'm usually tak things slow, 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 5: but things were going all right and it was cool, 66 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 5: so we did and then after hanging out for a 67 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 5: little bit. 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: She sort of got set off. 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: And was going in on me for for not making 70 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: a move on her, and she kept saying that, oh, 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: I must not think she's attractive and I haven't tried 72 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: anything on her, and any other guy would would do 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: that in this situation. 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 75 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: That really just turned me off and it was just 76 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: a bit a bit much. 77 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, So what did you, like, you like, hooked 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: up with her? At a guilt that happened? She said, 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: she said, you guys hooked up? So like what did 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: she talk you into it? Then? Is that what had 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: to happen? That's what happened? 82 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess so, I guess it's it's just 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: something I wasn't really used to. 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, like along with it, well please me, 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: like damn it get naked? I mean, like did she 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: have to force you? I wouldn't pay force obviously. It's 87 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: like long is it? 88 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: But that's sort of forwardness And that's sort of like 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: I said, like that it felt kind of aggressive to me. 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: It's just like you can retrospect them, Mike, that's just 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: not something I want. 92 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: To I mean, hey, look in fairness, you're allowed to 93 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: have your boundaries, you're allowed to have your comfort level 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: and what you do and don't want to do, and 95 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: it sounds like you know, and again I hate these 96 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: sorts of arguments. But if this were the other way around, 97 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: then this guy's the biggest scumbag of all time, There's 98 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But now we're laughing because he's 99 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: a guy. But I'm not sure that, you know, nobody 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: should be laughing because he has every right to say 101 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it too, but you did 102 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: do it. So I'm kind of wondering, like, did you 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: guys ar'm wrestle it out or like what, you know, 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: what happened? How did she finally convince you that it 105 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: was a good idea? 106 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's I mean, it's not that hard to 107 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: be convinced when you know she's pretty. 108 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let me bring her in. I forgot to 109 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: mention that Katie is here. Katie. Uh so you guilted 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: him then, according to him when you went back to 111 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: his place. 112 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: Because yeah, I'm still not understanding, like when you go 113 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: out with someone, the things could possibly happen. There's potential, 114 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: you know, anything could could go so I didn't think 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: there was anything out of the ordinary, Like why would 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: you ask me out if you weren't attracted me? 117 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, but it's not that I was definitely attracted. 118 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: It's just it's, you know, I just like to take 119 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 4: things slow personally. 120 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Normally, which he has every right to do. I mean, 121 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: I guess if you know, if you said, where's the 122 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: sex and you're like, and he says, so I want 123 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: to take things more slowly, you might not be used 124 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: to that. But I mean, I think we have to 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: respect that the same way that we would respect it 126 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: if you said it, right, I mean, wouldn't you expect 127 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: him just to back off if you said the same thing? Well, yeah, 128 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: I guess. 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: I just you know, I didn't think anything was strange 130 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: of it. So the fact that like you couldn't even 131 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: say anything about it, the fact that we have to 132 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: be on air and now to talk about that, that 133 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: strange to me. So, like, I don't I just don't understand. 134 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he hit it. I just want 135 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm clear. Well, yeah, but it sounds 136 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: like it sounds like she had to convince. 137 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: Him it was a pity hit it right, But he 138 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: did hit it, you know what I'm saying, Like I do. 139 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: That's why the message is a little mixed for me. 140 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: But you were attracted to her, Clayton. You just you 141 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: would have rather waited a little bit longer, is all 142 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you said. I don't do these kinds of Well, that's 143 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to figure out, Like, is this just 144 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: an incredible strategy? Like is this just should I be 145 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: doing this? Should I be like, yeah, you know what, 146 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't normally do this? And then the girl's like, 147 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: what do you mean? And then all of a sudden, 148 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the script is flipped, right, I mean, are you Are 149 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: you one of the smartest people we've ever met, Clayton, 150 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: or are you actually like trying to lay down some boundaries. 151 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: I can't figure out which one it is because you 152 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: did do it, that's true, I mean, but it wasn't 153 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: like I was going and thinking I would. I think 154 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: it was this might just be brilliant strategy, honestly, Yeah, 155 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I don't know. I have to 156 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: say though, if this was the other way around, if dude, 157 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: it is like, what do you mean you won't put out? 158 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we have a real problem for sure, And 159 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and so the fact, I'm I'm torn here between whether 160 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: he was trying to be boundaried and you just talked 161 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: him into it, or if this guy was playing hard 162 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: to get and it worked. I don't want to have 163 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: to talk you into it, but you did, and he 164 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: did him laying on a man cover his eye. Except now, 165 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: but here's the other thing. So he did do it, Okay, 166 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: it already happened, So then why not call her again? 167 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the real reason. I don't think, Clayton, 168 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: this isn't the real reason. Is it's Jesus. I think 169 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: it's just sort of it was just sort of the 170 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: attitude of it all. 171 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: Even going to the radio to to solve this seems 172 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: like I don't. 173 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Know the move that I would have done. No, I mean, Clayton, 174 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: this this movie is going in the old noggin for 175 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: future years. But I just can't figure out because you 176 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: did do it, okay, So you did cross that line 177 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and you say she's pretty and you had a good 178 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: time on the date. So I guess I'm curious now 179 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: why the ghosting? I mean, did you wake up and 180 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: feel guilty about it? Is it some kind of a 181 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: moral thing? Like, I guess, I just don't know why 182 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: after it did you know? Okay, so you you crossed 183 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: the line, but then why not continue to go out 184 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: with her if you like her? I was just sort 185 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: of thinking that if it was that sort of. 186 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: You know, if she was I keep coming back with 187 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: work aggressive. But I feel like if she was that 188 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: sort of aggressive about it initially, then it's just like like. 189 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: What's next, Like before long she's peer pressing you into 190 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: a colt or something like what I mean, too much? 191 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: You know what this is? 192 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: This, this all seems a little ridiculous now, and now 193 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about it, so I think it's way 194 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: too confusing. It's I take it back, no second date 195 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: for me. 196 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, though, Clayton. I think she's going to 197 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: think about this for a while, and I think this 198 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: is potentially brilliant. But all right, look Katy does now 199 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Kati doesn't want to go out anymore. We called on 200 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: her behalf, Clayton, but now she's not interested. So Clayton, 201 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: I guess not another day in this case. Alright, dude, 202 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: this guy is just like whatever either way, and Katy's 203 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: all fired up. She wants to me. I think we're 204 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: watching the picture. I think this is what true mastery 205 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: looks like. I've been doing it wrong. Exactly right, honestly exactly. 206 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh man, what. 207 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: Wow? 208 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: All right, Katie, I'm confused too, but good luck to you, 209 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: good look to both of you. Thank you for your time. 210 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Caylen has the Entertainment Report Eats next on The Fred Show.