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Speaker 2: go slash Colin. All right, Danny Parkins joining me. Spain

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Speaker 2: upset France. I'm gonna show you just to give you

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Speaker 2: So did a day Champ, the manager of France Leaves

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Speaker 2: and Zennaday Zidon. The fact I got close on those,

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Speaker 2: it's really an achievement. You're crushing it, Colin, your crush.

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Speaker 2: But seriously, I thought, France. You know, it's really remarkable

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Speaker 2: how Spain matches up with France so basically until the end,

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Speaker 1: At the end.

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Speaker 2: Spain dominates possession. Spain's won thirty seven matches without losing.

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Speaker 2: They controlled possession. It reminded me a little bit in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to do We were like the we're

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Speaker 1: we did a good job at the ot. It was listen.

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Speaker 1: I picked Spain in the game. I picked Spain before

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Speaker 1: the tournament to win it. The frontline attacking of France

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Speaker 1: is remarkable. Spain's allowed one goal all tournament. Spain beat

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Speaker 1: France in the Euros in twenty twenty four. Spain beat

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Speaker 1: France in the Semis. By the way, in the Euros

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Speaker 1: they beat him in the Semis of the nation's league

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Speaker 1: the semis of the twenty twenty six World Cup. So

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Speaker 1: the thirty seven match streak for Spain that you're talking about, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: France's World's Cup to lose. France is the best offensive

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Speaker 2: You know, we've said this before, is that great defense

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Speaker 2: It's almost always because what you're doing, a great defense

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Speaker 2: Know, you're a typist, and you type sixty words a

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those I just sort of thought, well,

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Speaker 1: There's no question that's what happened. It's what I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's what they did to Portugal. Not that there is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been remarkable. And I said this that

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Speaker 2: there is not Arling Holland today is more well known

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Speaker 2: but it's something. It's a pretty good indicator of global stardom.

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Speaker 2: And I said this. When Tiger entered the PGA, it spiked,

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Speaker 2: Because golf has always been and I love it, fairly elitist.

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Speaker 2: Soccer's different, we're out. The numbers are still remarkable. And

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Speaker 2: so if you're asking staying power much more than golf,

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Speaker 2: have sensational star players. And I'm not saying it's the NFL,

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Speaker 1: So I heard this take from you earlier today, and

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Speaker 1: That helps. And the World's Cup is awesome. And I

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that momentum is going to carry

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting because we love I've gone to Wimbledon. Well,

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Speaker 2: falls in late August. I'm on vacation this year. I

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Speaker 2: may go for in Flushing Meadows for a night. It's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be just just a rocking event, just in

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Speaker 2: a remarkable by.

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Speaker 1: The way, I hadn't done it until I moved to

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Speaker 1: New York and Nick had been telling me to do it.

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Speaker 1: I've done it the last two years. Come out, Let's

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Speaker 1: go together.

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Speaker 2: You me fun.

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Speaker 1: so that'll be cool. And the honey Deuce's great cocktail

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Speaker 1: with little pieces of melon in it. It's it's it's listen.

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Speaker 1: Any sport at the highest level is awesome. That's the truth.

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Speaker 1: any sport at the highest level is awesome. The US

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Speaker 1: Open is a great event.

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Speaker 2: When you consider Danny, how much sports, how many options.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I love sports. I love how much

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Speaker 1: I've been to a game yet. It's right down the road,

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Speaker 1: But no, it's and like I know you mentioned Kansas

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Speaker 1: It goes up against NFL. You know, it's just so

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Speaker 2: know if I told you. The first time I heard

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Speaker 2: And we didn't even talk much about analytics then. And

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Speaker 2: then there's like guys like Trey Young. I think RJ

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Speaker 2: it's the guy that's got and got beat up by

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Speaker 2: the analytic crew. So Jalen Brown's fascinating though, because we

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Speaker 2: watch other players and say, well, he's just not a

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Speaker 2: great player. Jalen Brown's one of the first plays both

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Speaker 2: ends a lot of points, excellent defensive effort, and then

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Speaker 2: you just start looking at numbers, and the most fascinating

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Speaker 2: stuff to me is so the Celtics were nine and

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Speaker 2: two this year when Jalen Brown didn't play. Now, what

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Speaker 2: makes that kind of shocking is Tatum wasn't even in

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Speaker 2: some of those games.

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Speaker 1: So you would.

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Speaker 2: Think if Brown and Tatum are out, they were atrocious,

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Speaker 2: like they were nine and two, and then you say, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: Jason tim that is a one year deal. You go

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Speaker 2: to the previous year when Tatum was healthy and they

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Speaker 2: were fifteen and four without Brown. Now they had Horford Porzingis,

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Speaker 2: they had a lot of offensive web Okay, they say, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: so let's go to the title year. That was the

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Speaker 2: year of Jalen Brown emerging. They went twelve and zero

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Speaker 2: without Jalen Brown on the floor in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: So you start adding these up and Jalen Brown. It's

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Speaker 2: why this is one of the reasons this is hard

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Speaker 2: for us, because you and I are conditioned that twenty

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Speaker 2: eighty game and a willing defender that's a top seven

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Speaker 2: player in the league. Like, there's just not that many guys. No,

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Speaker 2: It's like even when Klay Thompson was more of a

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Speaker 2: played really good defense. Here. I used to argue, he's

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Speaker 2: the only player in the league that would start for

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Speaker 2: every team, even like Steph would get in the way

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Speaker 2: of certain teams, Like I look at Jalen Brown, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: he would start for every team, but he's fundamentally in

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Speaker 2: a formulaic offense. Kind of a problem when Tatum's on

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Speaker 2: the floor, and it's hard to reconcile that my entire

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Speaker 1: I don't care your.

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Speaker 2: Turnover ratio is since the turnover So that part of

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, I think is new.

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Speaker 1: We don't quite know what to do with.

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Speaker 2: Like, he's a borderline all NBA guy and he gets

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Speaker 2: a way of winning for the self. That to me

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Speaker 2: is hard for fans, hard for me when I start

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Speaker 2: deep diving on these numbers. You have defended him, and

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Speaker 2: by the way, you and I for three years have

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Speaker 2: said this, but what do you do when you see

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Speaker 2: those numbers?

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Speaker 3: You can't ignore him. I think there's a certain amount

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Speaker 3: of when there's enough circumstantial evidence from enough different avenues,

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Speaker 3: it has to mean something like I'm not a big

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Speaker 3: face data, right, So like it's very clear that there

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Speaker 3: are some strong like metric markers that the team is

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Speaker 3: better when Jalen Brown doesn't play. I don't like ignoring

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Speaker 3: that completely. I think it's because of a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 3: He plays on an island, so his style of the

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Speaker 3: offense doesn't fit well with other players.

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Speaker 2: Like they're a fast pass, fast shoot team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they need rhythm, they need the ball to pop around.

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Speaker 3: He was a below average He was forty fifth percentile

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Speaker 3: So he struggles when the ball's getting moved to him

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Speaker 3: out of other action. On defense, he's outstanding on the ball,

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Speaker 3: but he can be inattentive and lazy off the ball.

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Speaker 3: That all is going to kind of accumulate into what

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Speaker 3: affects those advanced metrics. I think that people pitch advanced

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Speaker 3: large sample of data. I would argue that's actually the

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Speaker 3: disadvantage of that kind of data, because the truth of

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Speaker 3: the matter is in an eighty two game regular season,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of noise, there's a lot of bad basketball.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of nights in there where you play

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Speaker 3: against teams that aren't in the championship picture at all whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it's really only about like

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Speaker 3: team games you play a year that are against the

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Speaker 3: teams that are actually really in the mix, that have

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Speaker 3: the elite defenses, the superstar talent, and the things that

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Speaker 3: are going to actually test your your system in a

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Speaker 3: real way. And so what happens is in those playoff

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Speaker 3: situations where you need a bucket similar those situations are

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Speaker 3: a very unique circumstance that doesn't really show up much

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Speaker 3: in an eighty two game sample size of data. So

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Speaker 3: I think what ends up happening is you have a

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Speaker 3: system in Boston, which this is a credit to Boston

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Speaker 3: They just chew them up and spin them out. Ye,

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Speaker 3: So they just put together a lot of really strong

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Speaker 3: data over the eighty two And in that there's probably

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Speaker 3: a lot of nights where you're playing the Wizards and

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Speaker 3: the Brown units aren't moving the ball really well and

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Speaker 3: he's being lazy on defense, and it hurts the data.

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Speaker 3: And then incomes a bench group led by you know,

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Speaker 3: Peyton Pritzard and Jason Tatum, and they beat the heck

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Speaker 3: out of them, and it continues to throw off the data.

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Speaker 3: But then you like one of the Celtics struggled against

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Speaker 3: good teams all year last year, except for there was

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Speaker 3: a big game late in the year against Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: where they were they were playing OKC and nobody on

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Speaker 3: the Celtics could score, and Jason or Jalen Brown was

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Speaker 3: staring down Alex Caruso and Lou Dor two of the

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Speaker 3: very best perimeter defenders in the league, and just barbecuing

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Speaker 3: them over and over again and scoring in the Celtics won,

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Speaker 3: And it's like, that's what I keep coming back to,

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Speaker 3: is like, again the large sample, there's some value there.

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Speaker 3: I do think it's revealing of some of the shortcomings

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Speaker 3: in Jason jaln Brown's game, but he is one of

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Speaker 3: the apex athletes in this league that thrives in the

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Speaker 3: biggest settings. Again, one of I think one of the

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Speaker 3: most iconic performances individually of this entire last decade is

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown picking up Luka Doncics full court for an

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Speaker 3: entire NBA Finals, picking him clean and dunking it on

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Speaker 3: the other end and just making him miserably uncomfortable for

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Speaker 3: five games while they beat the heck out of the

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Speaker 3: MAVs and won the titles. So it's like, ultimately, that's

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Speaker 3: why I say I l end in the middle, because

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to ignore the data and pretend like

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Speaker 3: there aren't weaknesses in Jalen Brown's game. But I think

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Speaker 3: that those I think basketball is more art than science sometimes,

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Speaker 3: and I think that we forget that a lot of

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Speaker 3: times it comes down to not the large sample, but

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Speaker 3: can I score on this guy or can I guard

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Speaker 3: this guy? And Jalen Brown is just one of the

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Speaker 3: very best ats solving that specific problem on both ends

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Speaker 3: of the floor.

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Speaker 2: So I want to end for about five minutes talking

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Speaker 2: about the World Cup because I think it's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think you and I I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: and I have talked about this, but I've always thought

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Speaker 2: the NBA is very similar, the most similar to international

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Speaker 2: elite soccer.

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Speaker 1: Where.

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Speaker 2: It is star driven at times star reliant, the very

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Speaker 2: open pitch that you know you can't You can coach,

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Speaker 2: but don't over coach. That's a real problem. And it's

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Speaker 2: where he just kind of floats, you know, he's not

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Speaker 2: waits for opportunities to score. He's like almost disconnected from

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Speaker 2: the team. And that's totally understood. And it's interesting the

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Speaker 2: NFL and now college sports because of the NIL but

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Speaker 2: most of our lives, the NFL is not incremental. You

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Speaker 2: Ones in the Super Bowl one could have been like,

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Speaker 2: it's not incremental. You get seven rounds of picks. There's

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Speaker 2: a ton of undrafted players or seventh round players brock

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Speaker 2: pretty who make your team and can flourish.

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Speaker 1: It's just different NBA.

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Speaker 2: After about the fifteenth pick, man, you are crossing your

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Speaker 2: fingers and just open. Somebody fits. So all sports are incremental.

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Speaker 2: Baseball players you draft them, they're in the minors for years. Basketball,

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Speaker 2: if you can get one starter out of the draft,

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Speaker 2: I mean even in the top twelve picks, you feel

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Speaker 2: really good about a draft. Forget two or three starters.

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Speaker 2: Soccer in this country and it's been interesting to watch

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00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: the coverage and every four years we lament how we're

647
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: you know, we're not competitive, and it's like, guys, this

648
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: is incremental, like we only have one beer in the country.

649
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: That's as old as Belgium has been playing soccer.

650
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: Like it's like sorry, like it's just it's old.

651
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Like. So my interpretation all this is is I don't

652
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: freak out when we lose. I thought we're bad in goal.

653
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: We usually aren't. It was an ugly second half. It

654
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: felt like you got humiliated. That pisses Americans off, Like

655
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: that really stings. But somebody that watches basketball more than

656
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: anybody I know that. I'm sure you engaged in some

657
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: of the World Cup and you do see the symmetry

658
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: between the two.

659
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: What has been kind of.

660
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: Your like takeaway on the United States maybe the World

661
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: Cup in general? This this this sense that, oh my god,

662
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: we never get better at this stuff because you're you

663
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: tend to contextualize everything really well and you put you

664
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: pump the brakes and a lot of the you know,

665
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: clickie stuff. What's kind of been your interpretation on all

666
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: of it.

667
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: I've so enjoyed the World Cup this year. It was

668
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: in Vegas. Obviously they have it playing everywhere. It was

669
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: kind of interesting having it go on at the same

670
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: time as Summer League. Yeah, I I honestly thought that

671
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: the USA loss was as much about the moment and

672
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 3: us just kind of not quite being ready. Yeah, there

673
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: was some the sequences early in the game where it

674
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: just felt like we were slow to the ball, Like

675
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: it just felt like it almost felt like like we

676
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: weren't ready for the level of intensity that we needed

677
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: in that moment. That that one, that ball that popped

678
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: up right in front of the goal, that everyone just

679
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: stood around and watched, and the next thing you know,

680
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: they're jumping on it and scoring. I And then that

681
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: the I would just say, what happened on that that

682
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: third goal was as close to the yips as it gets.

683
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: I mean that he drives his foot into the ground

684
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: like literally he just could have kicked the ball away,

685
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: and you're in You're in great shape, you're down one goal,

686
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: you have a chance. And that's really the thing. Like

687
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: I I do believe that there's there's the skill development

688
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: and the maturity piece, but there's also like sometimes you

689
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: need to lose or be embarrassed even to understand next

690
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: time you find yourself in that situation that you bring

691
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: the requisite intensity, that you bring the requisite I always

692
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: refer to it as like scar tissue. That's how I

693
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 3: feel about san Antonio, Like, you don't think those guys

694
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: are beating themselves up about what happened. You don't think

695
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: Victor weman Yama took a discount because he saw Jalen

696
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: Brunson take a discount. And then when Finals MVP. You know,

697
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: like these things when you're you're talking about competitiveness, which

698
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 3: I agree. I think it's literally one of the most

699
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: important traits for any for any athlete, And like all

700
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: the smart teams that you talk to, that's like near

701
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: the top of the list of character traits they're looking

702
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: for when they're interviewing, when they're interviewing points.

703
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: My scout is when I talk to NBA scout, that

704
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: is huge. That is like after natural talent. It's like,

705
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean one of the knocks on Car for the

706
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: Lakers was one of my scouts that he's a little finesse,

707
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: he can play, he's long, he plays big, he can

708
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: be a little finesse like that just that's very you

709
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: hear that from any NBA scout who's worked for years.

710
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the way I've described it on my

711
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: show is like I want someone that hates losing more

712
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 3: than they love winning. I want someone who like when

713
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: they win, they experience more of a relief that they

714
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: avoided losing right than just like joyous want to go

715
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: celebrate like it's it's weird, like the best winners of

716
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: all time they win and then they're unsatisfied because all

717
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: they really have done is just stave off a loss

718
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: a little bit longer.

719
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: That's really all they've done.

720
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: And like, I think that honestly, like Pulisits for example,

721
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: that was kind of the thing that stood out to

722
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: me where it just kind of it didn't even seem

723
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: like he wanted to be there as much as like

724
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: some of the other stars representing their countries. And I don't, no,

725
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: Pulsit's well enough to like stand on that and to

726
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: take it to some sort of extreme, but it just

727
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: there was like a palpable energy. When you watched Earl Alan,

728
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 3: or when you watch Harry Kane or you watch Leo Messi,

729
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: there's like a there's like a they feel like this

730
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: is the biggest, most important thing they're going to do

731
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: over the course of these four years and I think

732
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: I think that our skill level is growing. The talent

733
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: was undeniable. I did think that we looked small against

734
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: several of the teams we played, even Bosnia. I was like,

735
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: Bosnia looks bigger than us, Like that was something that

736
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: stood out.

737
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we need to get we have to

738
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: upgrade it goal and I said this, I think we

739
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: need some size. I think we're our skills grown. But

740
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: you know, Rinaldo's big, Holland's big, Harry Kane, Jude Bellingham.

741
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: Length matters in every sport in the world.

742
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: You know.

743
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: Length, there's another word that NBA scouts talk about, like

744
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: you know.

745
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

746
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: There was an article I read this weekend of the

747
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Many and they went back to Pochattino when he first

748
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: took over the United States men's national team, and one

749
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: of the things he had to break down he said,

750
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: we were a bit of a country club, like guys

751
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: would take time off to golf or go out and

752
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, that can't be it. And so I

753
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: think it's one of my knocks on United States men's

754
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: national team soccer, and I've been really supportive through the years,

755
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: is we're not real hard, you know, like like, and

756
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: it was that when people used to compare. Anytime people

757
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: would criticize, like Draymond Green, I always said, if you

758
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: took Draymond at that Warrior team, they weren't hard. He

759
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: made them hard his screens.

760
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: It's like the Bulls.

761
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: Those guys were hard, like I mean just down though,

762
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: like who coach found out and he was a teammate

763
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: of them. It's like practice was hard. And I do

764
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: think I think that criticism of United States soccer is no,

765
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying country club, but it doesn't feel as

766
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: hard as it needs to be. And I just mean

767
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge, little ass kicking that stuff.

768
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: You know. I sound very old school, but I'm sorry,

769
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: Like the New York Knicks kind of pushed the Spurs around.

770
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: They did.

771
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys against kids. So I think your interpretation

772
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: And this is why I asked, because you're not doing

773
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: it all day. Like sometimes my wife will say something

774
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: about sports. No she doesn't know, but she'll say something

775
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: about twice a year and I'm like, God, that's a.

776
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even see that.

777
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: I'm so into the weeds on all these things I do,

778
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: so I like asking people that don't cover the NFL

779
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: about the NFL, or don't cover baseball, and so your

780
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: interpretation as largely as you feel like there was a.

781
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Grit, there were a little yeah, like hit first, don't

782
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: wait to be hit.

783
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: I mean like the head the play that I'm talking

784
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: about with that loose ball right in front of the

785
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: net that like three USA players just stood and watched

786
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: twelve Belgium scoring, or like the play where Tim Reim

787
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, I can't remember the player's name that

788
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: went over the top of him and just headed it in.

789
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: All the Belgian strike.

790
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was their first goal if I

791
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: remember it might have been there. Yeah, it was either there.

792
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: I think it was their first of their second goal.

793
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: But like Tim Reim was just kind of late to

794
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: the contact and so even though he was like because

795
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: the kid who went over the top of him was tall,

796
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: but he was kind of thin. And I remember sitting

797
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: there thinking like if Tim Reim just like kind of

798
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: meets meets him first, like hits first rather than waiting

799
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: to be hit, Like I feel like that's half the

800
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: battle in every sport. It's it's one of the reasons

801
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 3: why like people get so hung up on officiating when

802
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: the other team is shooting more free throws, because they'll

803
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 3: be like, they're fouling us, Why are they getting away

804
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: with it? And I have found at every single level,

805
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: from when I coached in high school to when I

806
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: played in college to when I've watched the pros to

807
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: even money tournaments and men's leagues and everything under the sun,

808
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: when you come out and you play physically aggressive, when

809
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: you bring the fight to the other team, you get

810
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 3: a better whistle. It's the craziest thing. And it's simply

811
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: because you're beating them to spots and so they are

812
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: out of position, and then they end up reacting to

813
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: your contact and get into trouble with the officials. Like

814
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: you have to bring the fight to the other team.

815
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,480
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Speaker 2: I was a college official, eight dollars a game. I

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836
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00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,360
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838
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Speaker 2: the offseason, they got the whistle. They weren't very artistic.

839
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: It was sloppy. They'd get right down into the paint

840
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,200
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Speaker 2: And they got the whistle. And it's like, I really

842
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,000
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843
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're just always a step ahead. They're aggressive,

844
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,759
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845
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,400
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846
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,560
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847
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,400
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848
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,800
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849
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: that never become good NBA players. They just don't have

850
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: that Kobe thing. They just don't have that edge and

851
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: that animal that just almost animosity toward anybody who would

852
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: They're almost outraged that you would think you could stop them,

853
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: and it's like almost illusional, a little crazy. Jay glazer

854
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: Awa says, you gotta be a little off to be

855
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. Some wiring's not quite right.

856
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into the Lebron thing because

857
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: it'll be a whole conversation. But this is why I

858
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: hope he doesn't go to Cleveland, because you know who

859
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: doesn't have that hit first, Like we're the tougher team. Mentality,

860
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: That Cavs team straight up quit against the Knicks. They

861
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: straight up quit and like all like and I understand

862
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: the storyline and I get it, and like all Calves

863
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: fans are all very hyped up right now, and he

864
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: certainly is the favorite to go there. By the way,

865
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: the word in Vegas is no one knows, No one

866
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: has any idea where Lebron's going, right, But like the if,

867
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be so disappointed if he goes there,

868
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: because I just don't think that team has the I

869
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: don't think they can match it.

870
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: I think I got blown out in three of the

871
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: four games against the next I mean the average was

872
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: over like fifteen points. They got blown out.

873
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: They quit.

874
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: And the other thing, the other thing is he's dumped

875
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: Cleveland twice. Let's let's stop with the romanticism of it. Like,

876
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: I understand, when you go back and marry your high

877
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: school girlfriend, right you were going out, you left, you

878
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: went to college, you circle back, Marrier, that's a love story.

879
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: He's bailed twice. It's now it's just a hookup, right,

880
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: Like that's all it is. There's no love.

881
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: It's a little I mean, it's the comfortable thing. I

882
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: will argue this all day long. So I made this

883
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: argument if Jalen Brown alone and it's just Maxy vj Edscombe,

884
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: Brown and Embiid. I think it's a bit of a mess.

885
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: I think if you add Lebron into that, you think, well, Colin,

886
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: it's one ball. I think Lebron's the balance in it

887
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: because Lebron one of the smartest basketball players I've ever seen.

888
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: He no longer is playing for anything other than winning

889
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: in fun. And you know what's fun winning by sixteen points,

890
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: that's fun. What's fun is playing with dudes Lebron's always had.

891
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got to be honest about this. He

892
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: didn't go to LA they didn't have players. He's got

893
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: a knye for talent. Lebron's always been somebody if yeah,

894
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: you know, he knows who can play and who can

895
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: He bailed on a lot of those Laker guys early.

896
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: Now Josh Hart developed into a nice role player for

897
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: the Knicks. But my take is Philadelphia with Lebron, you

898
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: think it's you think it's an extra piece too many.

899
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: I think Philadelphia could be a bit of a mess.

900
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: If it's just Jalen Brown thinks he's the one, and

901
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: b does Max he does vj Edgecombe thinks he's no

902
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: worse than a two Lebron would be almost like the

903
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: parental figure, like guys I've been around, Like we're all

904
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: gonna have great nights. Lebron. Also, Jason could play forty

905
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: five games, could play twenty four minutes like Lebron could

906
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: come in and got just just say, hey, listen, we're

907
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: gonna play you fifty eight games. We're gonna give you

908
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: two road trips off. You don't have to go away,

909
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to go goes to your family. That

910
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: becomes really really attractive. In my opinion, I think Philadelphia

911
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: works you.

912
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, to your point, they got Dean Wade, who

913
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: I think can start at the four on games where

914
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: Lebron wants to take some time off. So I want

915
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: to be clear, Lebron going to Philly makes Philly so

916
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: much better and so much more interesting and so much

917
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: more compelling as a championship contender for exactly what you

918
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 3: just described, which is the embiid MAXI Jalen Brown thing

919
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: is a little clunky because Jalen Brown Jalen Brown is

920
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: hard to like. If I was a basketball coach and

921
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: I was coaching any of the NBA's teams and someone

922
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: was like, hey, my GM came to me, it was like, hey,

923
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: I traded for Jalen Brown. It would be hard for

924
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: me to be like, Okay, how do I fit him

925
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: into what we're doing? Because he is an on an

926
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: island player and he doesn't play super well off the ball,

927
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: and he has those the shortcomings, so that's naturally part

928
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: of it. Lebron would just come in and he would

929
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: quite literally grease the wheels on everything. Yes, yes, on

930
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: both on and off the floor. He would he would

931
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: essentially just make life easier for them navigating the season,

932
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: navigating that partnership, like he would help and be he'd

933
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: help him beat Brown and MAXI like learn how to

934
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: play with each other and learn how to find that groove.

935
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: And for that reason, by the way, I like Philly

936
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: as an option a heck of a lot more than Cleveland.

937
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: But it's part of it for me is I want

938
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: to see Lebron play in a situation that accentuates his strengths.

939
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: And his strengths are his basketball brain and his playmaking talent.

940
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: And that's why I look at teams like the Golden

941
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: State Warriors or Denver as teams that I like as

942
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 3: selfishly as a fan. I want to see him play there,

943
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: just because I know in Golden State. First of all,

944
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: those are some competitive dudes, Like those are do that

945
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: you want to talk about meeting the moment physically and competitively.

946
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: He would love Draymond and step for that reason, and

947
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr. But like I imagine in Golden State, Lebron actually

948
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: being useful to them in his skill set on the

949
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: ball as everything is going on around him, because Steph

950
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: can play off the ball with Jokich, Like, Lebron's been

951
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: playing with Biggs, who can't shoot, ever since he left

952
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: Kevin Love in Cleveland, so he's been playing with some

953
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: rim protector parked under the basket waiting for him when

954
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: he gets there for years. So I'm selfishly like I

955
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: would love to watch Lebron with Jokich, who can pull

956
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: centers away. But the thing is is, Yo Denver's unrealistic

957
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: Golden State comes with a bunch of question marks. So

958
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: if it's between Cleveland Philly and Miami Philly is definitely

959
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: his best chance to win, and it's certainly a heck

960
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: of a lot better than Cleveland. I just think there's

961
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 3: some clunkiness there. I think Lebron would have some knights

962
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: in Philly where he's like, oh, I hated thirteen of

963
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: the shots that Tyres and Jalen took tonight. I think

964
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: he would have some I think he'd have some knights

965
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: where he was like where he calls his wife and

966
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: he's like, I'm in Philly tonight and I just stood

967
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: in the corner. Well, Jalen Brown shot us out of

968
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: a game, you know, Like what the hell am I doing?

969
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

970
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: It's like that's whereas like at least in Golden State,

971
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 3: it's like he's close to home. He's gonna have fun

972
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: playing there, even though he probably won't win. So, like,

973
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, though, Colin, like if he

974
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: was gonna go to Cleveland, I feel like he would

975
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: have committed already because like, why would you drag it

976
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 3: out if he knew where, Like I keep coming down.

977
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: It's one of two things. Either he's known all along

978
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 3: and he's just dragging this out for fun, which seems unrealistic,

979
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: or he like legitimately doesn't know yet and he's like

980
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: waiting for one of these teams to make a move.

981
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a little bit of that.

982
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: I think he Lebron's too smart. Okay, he knows Golden

983
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: State's the most fun, but it's not a title team.

984
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 2: He knows Philadelphia is a chance to win a title

985
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: and nobody connection to Philadelphia. Cleveland's easiest for his family

986
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: along with Golden State. But there's a Harden issue. There's

987
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: a chemistry issue, chanting fright.

988
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: He knows that team doesn't have it. Yeah, he knows

989
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: that team doesn't have it. There's no soul there. You

990
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: just watched them quit. So I think there's no perfect situation.

991
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: If the Sixers roster was in Cleveland, this thing would

992
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: have been done three weeks ago.

993
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: It would be done. It would be absolutely right. You're

994
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: absolutely right.

995
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: The vo