WEBVTT - HOUR 3- Don Mattingly Oct 05, 2020 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.840 Sports Radio. This is the final hour on this Monday 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.879 Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick Show. Glad you've 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.480 jumped on board here Reggie Miller. A little bit later on, 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:15.720 after what we saw with the Miami Heat and the 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.840 Lakers are the Lakers in a little bit of trouble, 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.640 We'll talk to Don Mattingley, the Marlins manager, will join 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.200 us here in a moment. This program brought to you 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.800 by Mercedes AMG. Do you suffer from leadfoot? Do goose 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.800 bumps appear for no reason? 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One of their nlds with the Braves begins 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.600 tomorrow afternoon to two Eastern and their manager Don Mattingly 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.399 joining us on the program. Donnie, how's around with the 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.679 Marlins roles? Pretty good? Dan? I didn't know you were 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.240 on the bandwagon. Oh yeah, absolutely, whenever you win, I'm 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.600 on the bandwagon. I like it like it. Um. By 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.200 the way, who gave you Donnie baseball as a nickname? 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.920 Kirby Puckett? Fine? We used to do a dinner and 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.280 here's how it got star. We used to do a 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.800 dinner up in Rochester every year and a lot of 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.840 guys would go for Ken Kaiser the umpire there was 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.920 for an orphanage up there, and you know, you have 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.039 the hospitality sweeten guys who are just having fun. And 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.120 Kirby's always like baseball baseball, donning baseball, baseball baseball, and 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.840 it just kind of stuck. And and that's how for me, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.960 that's how I got started. But did you ever feel 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.440 weird like Teddy ballgame for Ted Williams? But did you 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.440 have like you weren't uncomfortable with that nickname? Like, yeah, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.000 I'm done a baseball now for a long time when 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.080 you're younger, definitely uncomfortable with because of like he said, 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.000 Teddy ball game and guys like that. But now I 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.560 have I have a lot more fun with it. I 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:17.600 tell guys, I'm Donnie fan base. You can say that 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.240 as you win a playoff round there after, after what 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.239 happened at the start of the season. If I would 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.680 have told you back then, hey, by the way, you're 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.800 gonna go to this at least the second round and 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.480 you're gonna beat the Cubs in the wild card, what 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.399 would you have said? I just said, we you know what, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.799 I think we could do that, quite honestly, especially when 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.000 it got to the sixty. I think the one sixty 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.600 two we had a belief in ourselves because of the pitching. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.919 You don't know if that holds up. Your depth has 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.919 to hold up over one sixty. But with the sixty 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.600 and the guys we brought in, with our pitching and 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.120 the guys that we had like right behind him, you 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.080 felt like, okay, we can we can stop some people. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.359 If we can put some runs on the board, we're 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.040 gonna be okay. But how close did you think you 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:07.040 were or your team was to maybe being shut down 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.800 I think that got close, you know, listening to Michael 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.520 Hill while we were in Philadelphia, and the numbers just 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.680 kept piling up, and you know, and at that point, Dan, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.919 the stories were coming out that our guys were running 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.560 all around Atlanta, and it made it sound like our 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.440 guys were just being totally irresponsible, and you know, we 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.480 couldn't do anything about it, but it just wasn't true. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.160 And you know, it got going like it doesn't in 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.320 the world now. It got a couple of guys and 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.280 that thing flew through our clubhouse. What you're seeing in 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.800 in Nashville right now with the Titans, You've seen it 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.240 with the Cardinals. Once it gets started, when you're in 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.480 a clubhouse setting, man, you're close in there, and and 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:53.200 it just took off. How often are you tested? Every day? Now? 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.680 It was every other day, but since we entered the bubble, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.800 it's been it's been every day. Do you like the 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.200 new format? Well, I guess you do like the new format. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.480 You moved onto the second round here, But could you 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.600 see this being permanent where it's best to three to 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.360 start out? I like the best of three. I think 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.120 it's it's more fair. I could see it the playoffs 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.520 being expanded a little bit, maybe not to sixteen, but 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.599 maybe a little bit more than has been. I kind 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.000 of like this bubble format at the end, when you 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.080 get down to the lead eight or the final four. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.279 I guess that's tough with cities though that once you 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.400 know fans can be to that would be tough. But 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.800 this is kind of fun because you were playing it 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.480 kind of same time. Every day. You play every day, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.360 you don't have to travel. The biggest problem is just 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.040 being away from your family. And now that we're into 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.520 this situation, if your family and quarantine, they could come 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.240 into this. How do you manage differently this season as 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.880 opposed to any other season? A little more sense of 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.000 urgency with the sixty game season. And I told we 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.800 told our players that we told our players in spring, Hey, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.039 it's time to turn the corner, and that we're in 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.360 this thing and we're going to be playing Pennant Race baseball. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.760 I told him, I'm going to manage differently. It's going 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.960 to be trying to win every game we can win, 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.320 and that means sometimes pinch it and very as you 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.560 don't that they don't like being pinch it for and 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.240 polling pitchers a little bit quick, but you still have 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.000 to manage the length of even a sixty game, So 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.520 you just can't blow your bullpin up every day. You 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.080 still have to use some common sense. Yeah, that's what 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.840 I wondered, and that's why I thought, you know, Tampa 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.279 and the Dodgers were the teams that I was picking 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:33.840 to play in the World Series. I was looking at 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.680 depth on these pitching staffs because at first I thought 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.120 you're gonna need at least twelve pitchers, and then I 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.800 realized you might need fifteen pitchers at least being available 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.360 to you at some point here. Is that what this 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.080 has all come down to, that we talk about offense, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.640 but this short, this truncated season is about pitching. I 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.720 think it. I mean there's been quite a bit of offense. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.440 I mean, we're playing one of the teams this round 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.160 that's got a really good offense. But I think when 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.800 you get into these series, you know, you've seen it 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.240 in the Cincinnati Braves series. These guys are good offensive teams, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.680 but good pitching. You're you're gonna see one and two 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.200 and three, You're not seeing four and five in the 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.440 middle of the bullpen. You're gonna see the back end 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.240 guys and one, two, three, And there's a lot of 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.480 good pitching out there. So if you have that, you've 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.279 got a chance to be in every game. I look 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.760 at these home runs and how far they're going, Donnie like, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:30.000 okun you hit one like four nineties seven ers like 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.000 these are preposterous numbers, aren't they. Like do you remember 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.680 home runs back when you guys played where you went 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.000 that like a four hundred and you know twenty foot 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.160 shot was a bomb. Back then, it felt like not Now, Yeah, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.200 there was a few guys, right, you know, you had 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.159 Big Mac and Conseco and there was there was a 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.400 few guys out there that hit them a long way. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.719 But now there's a lot more guys doing it. I 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.600 think the ball still feels like it jumps. I think 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.800 the players are stronger, I honestly do. I think that 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.480 training is better, So I think they're hitting balls farther, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.240 they're taking more chances. They don't ever cut their swing down. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.400 We've talked I think we've talked about this before. With 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:14.200 the strikeouts. Yeah, it's you know, it's guys pretty much 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.680 go for it a lot and are trying to get 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.280 the ball in the air when you mentioned a Kunya. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.920 He's a special he's a special talent and when he 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.640 hits him, he's got bat speed galore. When he catches them, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.680 they're going to go a long way. Yeah, I just 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.480 I wonder about that that. Did you lift weights back 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.680 when you played a little in the off season, and 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.840 that's when it was just starting kind of the nautilus time, right, 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.080 So that really helped me, honestly, really hit the weights 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.760 in the winter. But now guys do it kind of 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.240 season long and they keep up with the program pretty good. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.239 I just think the diets are better, the training is better. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.200 You know, we want to rest them. We try to 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.120 rest players now. That's before there was no real rest. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.960 You didn't think about that. Now you want guys read 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.520 did and I think players probably take a little better 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.920 care of themselves than we did. Well, what was the 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.560 clubhouse spread like when you played with the Yankees as 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.800 as opposed to what it's like now for these players, Well, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.440 this year is different because we've been eating off the 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:19.160 out of plastic the whole year, right, No group stuff, um, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.960 but in general it's it's a lot better. Like there's 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.160 a chef in every clubhouse right on the road in 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.160 a normal season. So you guys are going into the 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.160 ballpark to get a good lunch. Then they'll eat before 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.959 the game. You after the game. You're gonna get three 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.160 good meals at the ballpark. And it's totally different. What 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.760 did you eat with the Yankees? Whatever the guy put out? 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.719 Sometimes you didn't money eat. Yeah, maybe a piece of 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.199 pizza every once in a while, you'd like it. But 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.800 there just wasn't like before a game it was a 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.840 cold cut or a candy bar. There was no real 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.839 food in there. Was there always beer in there pretty 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.400 much pretty much there was always Yeah, obviously change with 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.120 some of the things that happened with guys going home 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.560 after games and things like that. So there there was, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.200 and probably a good change because of you know what 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.520 goes on with with guys in there. Ever have a 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:16.120 beer before a game? No? Never. Never did you believe 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.720 what the Red Sox were saying that they would cowboy 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.800 up and you know, do a shot before the World 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.559 Series that Kevin Millard talks about that, you know what, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.440 I kind of that group seemed to be. You know, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:33.199 they may do it right and and you know, probably 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.120 if it wasn't something that was silly, you know, like 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.960 it was every day in three or four. But if 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.080 somebody just took one, I mean two hours before the game, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.120 I can't believe they're going out there hammered or anything 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.640 like that. Did you did you get a say in 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.800 what their uniforms look like? What do you think of 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:52.440 the Marlins uniforms? Be honest, now, no, I think guys 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.720 like the black they I think there has to be 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.000 some changes because you can't really see the name and 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.720 the number on it. We like a new logo for 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.440 sure when you see the old logo. I think the 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.960 guys really like the new logo. Uh in general, it's 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.920 a it's changed, right, And when you're bringing in you 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.120 want to change what you believe in, how you do things. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.240 You want the perception change, so you have to change that. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.560 And I think Derek's did. Everything that's been based has 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.160 been fanned. You know, participation. What do you like? Why 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.439 the colors? You know? Uh so, yeah, they're they're fine. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.520 Uh so Yeah. I think guys in general like the 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:37.120 new logo. What happened on August sixteenth? You tell me, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.440 I don't know where we at the Braves game? You got? 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.560 You got? You yelled at the umpire some F bombs 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.520 in there. Did I use the F word? Yep, you did, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.640 and it wasn't Donnie f and baseball by the way. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.160 But but what happened here. You know what's funny. I 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:01.320 think about you when I get that's not good. But 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.040 you don't think about me during. You think about me after. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.400 If you thought about me during, you wouldn't get thrown out. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.319 I know it's funny because like mel stadhomars, he'll be 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.920 next to me, he goes, I knew you were gonna go. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.360 I can tell, I can tell it. And that one. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.400 I was kind of surprised because I know I was 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.920 kind of barking about the zone. But there's like, there's 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.000 nobody in the ballpark who cares, right, there's nobody. Well 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.520 that's why we could hear the F bombs. There's nobody 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.240 in the ballpark probably, And you know the magic words 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.200 that you did it on purpose? Right? Oh? I didn't. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.560 I did not. When I got thrown out. I was surprised, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.679 and that's what I didn't say the magic words until 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.640 after I was thrown out and I'm walking up there, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.679 I'm like, whatever, Yeah, what did your wife say? When 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:54.040 she sees that? She laughs, She laughs. She shows me 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.160 the videos or she watches it and she laughs at it, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.520 and she'll like, she'll like rate, like she'll sing me 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.560 video other ones, and like I had people call me 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.360 on that one and then they said, oh, that's one 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.840 of your that's in the top five. I'm like, it 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.400 didn't feel like it, right, it didn't feel like that. Well, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 you know, compose yourself at least for the first couple 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.200 of games. Right, I'm getting better, I'm getting older. Damn, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.200 I'm starting I really calmed down. What one time this year? 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.200 I know, I know, but who So you had managers though, 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.719 like Billy Martin, he was strategic and getting thrown out, right, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.560 I don't know he could do it in a variety 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.800 of ways. It felt like, yeah, he probably could. And 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.200 yeah when he got fired up, Oh it didn't. Yeah, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.360 he may have wanted to go, like he had somewhere 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.760 to go, and he probably did. Yeah, absolutely. I know 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.880 one time he went him and Mickey, but he got 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.320 tossed and by the fifth he was gone. Way he 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:57.640 met up with Mickey Mantle and they left the stadium. No, yeah, Billy, 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.880 they did. Yeah they were going on. Yeah. Yeah, well 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.880 I'm sure it was it was a bar. The question 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.959 was where they were going to. I'm sure after that. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.400 Those are just different times, you know, obviously. Yeah, but 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.240 that's not something that's not who you were. No, no, no, no, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:21.000 because you were boring pretty much, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, alright, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:27.360 you know on the download behind the scenes, now you're 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.600 Donnie f and baseball. Um, hey, congrats, what a wild ride, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.200 uh this is. You know, we'll be interesting there with 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.920 the Braves. That starts tomorrow afternoon at a too eastern 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.520 in minute Made Park in Houston. Thanks again for joining us, Dunning. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.640 All right, damn, I'm gonna talk to you all right, 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.960 Don Mattingly. Yeah, being around Billy Martin was always entertaining 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.640 because you never knew from day to day who was 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.120 going to be there, and there was you know, I 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.520 told this story when I worked at CNN in New 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.640 York and were five pen Plaza and Larry King Live 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.800 was in there and he was going to have Billy 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.480 Martin as a guest and I Billy came in and 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.439 they were going to tape it, and Billy I was 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.640 up in the sports department and they said, hey, would 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.640 you come down here? And Baby, said Billy Martin because 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.520 he showed up an hour before he was supposed to 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.320 go on. And Billy shows up by himself. So I 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.960 go downstairs with him that I wasn't thinking. We went 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:32.040 to the Blarney Stone, which is a bar. So I 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:38.320 take Billy Martin down to a bar in New York City. Well, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.720 I think after the fifth or sixth drink, that they, 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.280 you know, somebody was buying him, like everybody wanted to 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.040 buy Billy Martin a drink, and these weren't beers. So 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.960 Billy I have to get him on the elevator to 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.480 take him back up to tape Larry King Live. And 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:59.080 Billy's telling me this is the best time he's ever had, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.440 and and hey, when you see me at the ballpark, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.960 you say a low to me and whatever you need. So, 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.200 like a week later, seven days, ten days later, I 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.720 go to the ballpark. I say, hey, Billy, how are you. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.720 Dan Patrick's CNN right by me, and I went, oh, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.400 you probably a lot on his mind before the game. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:27.120 So I did another drive by, said hey, Billy goes, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.760 what's your bleepment problem? I said, I was. I was 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.960 just saying, oh, yeah, I know what you're doing, I say, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.040 And I thought, okay, I gotta get my I'm gonna 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.960 tell him exactly what happened. Hey, I I took you 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.000 to the Blarney Stone before Larry King Live, and he 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.400 just kept walking down into the tunnel going to the 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.680 locker room. I don't know if I ever talked to 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.480 him again or well, or he talked to me. I 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.520 should say. More phone calls coming up, and Reggie Miller 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.640 will join us next year. We'll take a break seventeen 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.560 after the hour, and this is The dam Patrick Show. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.520 Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.400 sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.800 noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.440 Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.440 Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.400 day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.160 Jimmy Butler had a forty point triple double last night, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.840 but maybe the real story the Lakers three point shooting. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.480 They shot forty two three pointers. They made fourteen or 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.560 thirty three percent if you include in the bubble regular 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.920 season in the playoffs, the Lakers now five and eight. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.840 When they shoot thirty three percent or less from three 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.760 point range, they're twelve and one, when they shoot better 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.440 than thirty three percent in the playoffs in the bubble 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.600 ten and oh, when they shoot over thirty three percent 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.560 on three pointers. I still go back to Anthony Davis 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:57.320 can't take fewer shots than Mark Keith Morris. Anthony Davis 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.480 has and that's a hard rule, like Frank Vogel's got 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.239 to say. And by the way, Lebron Anthony Davis has 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.000 to take more shots shots than Mark Keith Morris springing 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.280 Reggie Miller Hall of Famer, Turners Sports NBA analyst reg 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:17.680 what the heck happened last night? Well, to your point, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.760 Anthony Davis has to stay on the floor, stay at 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.320 a foul trouble. I think that contributed to Mark Keith 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:30.040 Morris having more shot attempts is because Anthony Davis's butt 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.359 was parked on the bench because of that foul trouble. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.680 But you and I, going back to the beginning of 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.040 the playoffs, said for the Lakers to win the championship, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.840 A d has to be the best player over Lebron 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.640 on the floor, and he was in those these first 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.960 two games of the NBA Finals. He gets in foul trouble. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.520 Now you if you're Frank Vogel, you kind of go 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.960 to Plan B to try to you know, mix and 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.159 match your you know, your team and your effort. And again, 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.239 let's give Miami the credit in Jimmy Butler because they 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.040 played spectacular and living here in La I know people 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.680 think the sky is following because the Lakers lost with 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.640 the heat missing two starters and Druggage and Bam out 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.280 of bio. But it's one game, and what you're telling 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.120 me is for Jimmy Butler to have a forty point 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.800 triple double, Kelly and Lennick played great and made shots 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.679 and they still scratching claw to win that game. They 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.240 would have to play like that the rest of the 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.480 way to beat the Lakers. That's why this is not 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.000 that big of a deal. It's one game where the 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.760 sky was following when they lost to Houston game one, 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.720 the sky was following when they lost to Portland Game one. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.200 Would they go on to do win fourth straight? So 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.000 I'm not worried about that. There's still up two one 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.000 in the series. And now with all this negative press 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.080 coming towards Lebron and what's wrong with ad, he may 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.080 have lost his Finals MVP chances all this is going 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.600 to do is is really chick off the Wakers and 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.080 we'll see a much better performance in game four. What 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.480 if you read an article that just said, hey, you 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.440 know what, acknowledge the heat, Jimmy Butler, great performance, and 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.119 you know Lebron's gonna win his fourth title and Anthony 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.560 Davis gonna be the MVP. Nobody's writing that, even though 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.920 deep down they probably feel that. But Jimmy Butler after 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.600 Lebron says to him in the first quarter, you're in trouble. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.320 And then Jimmy Butler comes back in the fourth quarter 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:36.879 and says to Lebron, you're in trouble. That's I mean, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:42.480 I love that, isn't it great? I mean this is 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.959 you're two superstars, yeah, or that one another, which normally 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.240 doesn't happen. You know, normally you pick on other guys 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.000 that you know you can kind of get in their heads. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.200 But Jimmy Butler responding to the key, which I love. 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:03.360 But again, without two starters and not knowing if Bam 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.280 is going to be available in game four, I really 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.720 don't see Gorn coming back with a torn planner bashit. 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.920 Who knows? It depends on how how big the terror 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.440 is maybe he comes back. I'm not really sure, but 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.880 how effective Canny be on that? So if you're still 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:23.080 gonna be without two starters, you've got to play like 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.400 this the rest of the way out. And if you're 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.200 gonna tell me that Jimmy Butler is going to average 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.959 a triple double and forty points, that's not his DNA. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.280 That's not what has made the Heat so successful to 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:38.520 get to this final run. Finals run. They were everyone 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:43.520 was collectively involved. Hero Duncan, Jay Crowder. Those guys played 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.520 effective last I mean not great, but effective, and they 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.840 rolled the shoulders of the hot man, which just so 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.640 happened to be Jimmy Butler. But that's not him, It's 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.359 just not him. And he didn't even take a three pointer. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.800 Jimmy Butler put up forty and didn't take a three 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.200 point winner. What's wrong with Jimmy Butler? Doesn't he realize 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.160 you have to shoot threes in the NBA to be good? 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.160 And I think the Lakers they got away with made 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.639 them so successful in Games one and two. They pounded 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.040 the Heat inside, they killed them with points in the pain. 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.600 They used their size to the advantage. Last night. It's 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.679 almost like they morphed into the Houston Rockets like they 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.960 had to jack up a whole bunch of threes and 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.240 that's not their game. And you're right, Jim Butler, but 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.359 if you look at his stats all season, he hasn't 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.240 taken a lot of threes. He's not a great three 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.040 point of shoot. A shooter. He can make them, but 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.639 he would much rather put pressure on you on your 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.760 interior defense, get Boud on those drives and go to 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.080 the free throw line. He's Reggie Miller joining us. Kyrie 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.959 Irving said on Kevin Durant's new podcast that he finally 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.760 has a guy he can trust in the clutch at 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.600