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Speaker 1: My cousin thirty five male and his wife thirty six

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Speaker 1: female found out about six years ago that he was

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Speaker 1: not very fertile. Literally two weeks after that, they found

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Speaker 1: out that she got pregnant with his baby. He is

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Speaker 1: heavily implied that he checked the paternity in secret but

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Speaker 1: So they now have a daughter.

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Speaker 2: So basically he's like, oh, it's probably not my baby

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Speaker 3: But he got no swimmers.

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Speaker 2: They got no swimmers.

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Speaker 1: Well, this comes from confusing marriage a spy on the

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Speaker 1: wanted more kids and he does too, but the miracle

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Speaker 1: wasn't happening again. They have tried IVF for two years

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Speaker 1: but with no avail, so she got in her head

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Speaker 1: but I thought it was his kid. So they had

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Speaker 2: Oh, and she's like, I'm going to get a donor. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and just did a turkey based yeah or the O

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Speaker 1: Bad.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't cheating. It was just a donor. It's just

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Speaker 3: I found him and went to his house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. It was cheaper than getting a sperm bake.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like dropping mail in a bag. She

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Speaker 1: Don't you want to be frugal babe? Why would you

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Speaker 1: She confessed it all to him, and he went mental

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Speaker 1: called by a neighbor, not sure, but definitely not by

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Speaker 1: his wife. He was not arrested, but she told them

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Speaker 1: that he didn't touch her, but she was advised to

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Speaker 1: his parents. He has not returned or even talked to her.

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Speaker 1: She has been with She has been withholding his daughter

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Speaker 2: And he feels any double checked yes, which damn not

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Speaker 2: a great relationship if he's double checking.

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Speaker 1: Event, double check every time if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: His parents are genuinely distressed because she is also withholding

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Speaker 1: not budging personally. I had my ex leave state when

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Speaker 1: she got pregnant. When she was pregnant, and I still

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Speaker 1: got custody by just moving to that state and really quickly.

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Speaker 2: he was still able to have custody of his kid

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Speaker 1: Right, try to try to try to And yeah, Opie

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Speaker 1: again is talking about his cousin. He is like kind

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's that's a little extreme, don't you think, Sophia.

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Speaker 1: I can't help but be impressed by his mutual destruction strategy.

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Speaker 1: He said, I don't care if you take my daughter

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Speaker 2: Dude, honestly, respect respect the gay respect problem.

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Speaker 1: Is I am the only one who thinks he is

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Speaker 1: Which I kind of think, there's like no way it

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Speaker 2: How old is a kid? I think honestly, regardless of

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Speaker 1: Six years wait, six years ago.

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Speaker 2: He owes nothing to her, though, but he owes it

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Speaker 1: He owes it to the child absolutely, And to say

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's insane. We're we're in awe at

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Speaker 2: But what you he was too rigid what you were saying,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he was like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: That means he was like pretty like Adam, you know,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think he can totally. I think you

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Speaker 1: This, this whole thing seems to have made him gone

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Speaker 1: Habit seventy seven and forty seven says he can and

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Speaker 1: he should absolutely try. He needs a good lawyer as

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Speaker 1: far as the involuntary donor baby he can contest paternity for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sophia Collins says weaponizing her kid guided nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think he did a like by saying I'm going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're both doing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Comments or speculate about how wife was able to get

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Speaker 2: You don't have to tell them, like like you don't

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Speaker 1: This is so much more like, kind of complicated than

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Speaker 1: the court's like, how do we prove that? Did he

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Speaker 1: It's also up to the provider what their policy is

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Speaker 1: for the insurance. She's not having her goalbladder removed. She

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Speaker 1: is having a completely voluntary, non required procedure. If you

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Speaker 1: He may even have a legal action against the clinic

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Speaker 1: cluster f. I did not think about any of these things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I had no idea that neither stuff.

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Speaker 1: Of all of the paternity stories that we've seen, none of.

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Speaker 2: Any time that Like, I didn't know it was an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. Maybe in those cases the mom

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Speaker 2: So, like, I think, if you don't care about your

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you owe anything to her, but I

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Speaker 1: And I think it's totally fair for you to say

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Speaker 2: I think what Sophia Collins saying is like, no, like

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Speaker 2: I don't try to co parent, try to forcibly take

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Speaker 1: Are co parent custody or co parent? Man?

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Speaker 2: Do you think she's lost the right to custody of

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Speaker 1: This is really tough. I mean, look, it is. It

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Speaker 1: she went to a clinic.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's endangering that when you endanger

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Speaker 2: She is using that. She is using the child as

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Speaker 2: that warrants the custody.

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Speaker 1: It's not the donor, it's the facts that she used

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Speaker 1: Put your votes at the poll. Update twelve days later,

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Speaker 1: here's the update you guys asked for. It is not

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Speaker 1: a pretty update. My cousin has been cheating with a woman,

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Speaker 1: not sure if the age female, on his wife for

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Speaker 2: That's new information.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Is that the guy that was that massive dick or

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Speaker 2: not a massive dick, but the guy that was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to talk to you again with the

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Speaker 1: For two years? All right, we're getting more, We're getting more.

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Speaker 1: Around that same time, they started IVF, and he claimed

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Speaker 1: for cheating, and I don't buy it as an excuse. Agreed,

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Speaker 1: there were other better ways to deal with whatever he

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Speaker 1: found out that she is thirteen weeks pregnant. There is

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Speaker 1: babies left, right, and center falling out of the sky

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Speaker 2: Dude, man is kind of fertile. Who is he doctor

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Speaker 2: for someone who is saying has fertility issues? He's kind

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Speaker 2: of like popping them out and I'm non stop.

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Speaker 1: Although he's not getting her pregnant even though she's normally

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Speaker 2: It might have got his, He got his his side

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Speaker 1: Might be luck of the draw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what it seems like the size of the moon.

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Speaker 1: Yep, the size of the moon.

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Speaker 1: The moon like is full, so then you're able to

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Speaker 2: The more kids you can gooon. He yo conceived, dude,

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Speaker 2: this is why John loves break so much.

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Speaker 1: Damn it. So she claims it to be his child,

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Speaker 2: This is so my god. It's like he purposely got

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Speaker 2: her pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Just just to have that one thing of do you

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Speaker 1: want me back now?

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Speaker 2: Dude? If what if she does? If you want to

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Speaker 2: be as Polly Stitch.

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Speaker 1: He then proceeded to kiss his mistress in front of

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Speaker 2: Right? Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god. After a lot of arguments, there

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Speaker 1: Thankfully the police didn't get involved. They are definitely getting

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Speaker 1: a divorce. I don't think his wife will want to

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Speaker 1: continue the relationship now, that makes sense. That's the update.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you guys will be interested in stupid

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Speaker 1: family drama. It's temporary anyways, even if you guys are,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the mental bandwidth.

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Speaker 2: Who so Coura Kudo says, ohmg, could this be forty

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Speaker 2: chest There's no mistress at all, and it's just a

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Speaker 3: So that the wife can't judge him anymore.

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Speaker 2: So the wife is basically like because like he's like,

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Speaker 2: the wife still wants to get back with him and

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Speaker 2: wants to talk to him. I want to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: And so he hires someone to take the fall.

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Speaker 4: To finally like make her stop or the side piece

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Speaker 4: and that's why she's pergo.

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Speaker 1: His a fair partner is sleeping with somebody else because

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Speaker 1: he's infertile allegedly. Probably not a bad thought, dude, I mean,

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Speaker 1: either way, it makes him look good like he can

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Speaker 1: do kids or make kids.

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Speaker 2: All the kids.

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Speaker 1: If one thing has been proven, is he's proving his

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Speaker 1: doctor's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they said it was impossible. But he

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Speaker 3: My swimmers keep on swimming, Like I would like to

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Speaker 3: know my swimmers work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. I don't know either.

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Speaker 1: Let's find out.

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Speaker 3: We all like go somewhere and like see like the

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Speaker 2: That actually I would I that is something I've been

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Speaker 2: worried about. We should do it, like I've never gotten

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Speaker 3: And he does like to.

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Speaker 1: Run on some roofs without shoes on shoes or bare minimum.

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Speaker 1: It's the toe shoes.

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Speaker 2: No, I usually wear shoes with usually but not with

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Speaker 2: like like if like I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like not if they have shoes on, like, well, once

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Speaker 1: he says I love you, he wears no more shoes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you back on the getting tested for our little guys?

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Speaker 1: You think we can like AI it? So we can

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Speaker 1: once we do it, we can see what they look like.

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Speaker 1: There is this AI generated.

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Speaker 2: There is this thing that you can uh, you can

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Speaker 2: You can get a kit and you can you can

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Speaker 2: like you put a little bit all right, like you

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's crazy. I also remembered my question that I

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Speaker 3: was going to ask you guys. It was the gallon.

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Speaker 2: It was what the gallon questions asked me that question.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, but that is crazy that how much

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. We'll here go on Amazon really good,

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Speaker 3: Is it really a special mic?

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Speaker 3: Less than thirty bucks? Bro, regular, it's just a regular one.

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Speaker 2: Well, all you gotta do is just put a little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I'm trying to look at

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Speaker 2: Well don't you want to with a camera questioned chat,

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Speaker 3: Oh my new membership teer Golden Swimmers Tier.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, I'm taking control of this

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Speaker 1: and we're going to read these relevant comments guys, and

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Speaker 1: then I have a question for everyone. Let's do it

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Speaker 1: island Lord eight thirty says, I mean they're both crappy people.

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Speaker 1: The only sad part is now they will divorce and

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Speaker 1: take the crappiness and inflict it on someone else instead

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Speaker 1: of on each other. Spinner of Yarn says, Wow, they

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Speaker 1: his daughter by cutting her off because he's mad at

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Speaker 1: his wife. The affair is Wow, what horrible things for

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Speaker 1: everyone to do to each other. It's genuinely possible that

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Speaker 2: What do we got o, jellys? Why does he have

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Speaker 2: a tab that says flat putin shirtless?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 1: Can we do an exposed video? Okay, storytime? Pretty exposed?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, god, I love it. There's a perfectly

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Speaker 1: So it's genuinely possible that he got his a fair

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Speaker 1: partner pregnant. Many doctors will tell you that infertile doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean sterile, So while the while the pregnancy's unlikely, it's

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Speaker 1: not impossible. Personally, I think anytime someone's a fair partner

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Speaker 2: With you, you'd be foolish to believe he was not cheating.

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Speaker 1: Oh, if she's rubbing his affair and his wife's face

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Speaker 1: is disgusting. If it weren't for your niece, I might

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Speaker 1: wash your hands of the whole situation. Quick edit. The

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Speaker 1: is she's a fool if she has a kid with him,

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Speaker 1: assuming it's his. Here's how I see things panning out.

442
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: He divorces his wife and marries his mistress, assuming she

443
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Speaker 1: is actually pregnant with his child. He's going to fight

444
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: for equal custody of his daughter I'm assuming the original

445
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: birth daughter, and will get at least forty percent in

446
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: my states if he takes it to court, which he's

447
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: planning to do. His parents won't give up on a

448
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: grandchild just because of an affair. Not sure if they

449
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: will accept his mistress, but I don't think they have

450
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: a choice but to tolerate her If they want a grandchild.

451
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: He is their only child, so they don't have any

452
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: other avenues forage grandchild. I like his parents and I

453
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: do want to have a good relationship with them, So

454
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Speaker 1: he is going to be part of my life, and

455
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: so will his ex wife. So yeah, I am in

456
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: the midst of this drama, and there is no way

457
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: to completely wash my hands.

458
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: Messy, very very messy.

459
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, as far as Opie is concerned,

460
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: op is the cousin, I think you can pretty much

461
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: be almost completely uninvolved.

462
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: Opie, do not get involved. Just thank you for reporting

463
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: on it.

464
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: And giving us the story. Man. Oh my goodness.

465
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Speaker 4: All right, here's my question, John, all right, get ready

466
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: for this one. I need a gallon of some John juice.

467
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: How much would you want for it?

468
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: I mean, not giving, but how much you have to

469
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: give it to me? How much would you want I

470
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: have to give it to you?

471
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: You have to a trillion dollars.

472
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: Trillion dollars reasonably, reasonably.

473
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Speaker 2: Wait, you're telling me you wouldn't give Riley a gallon

474
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: of John juice for a billion dollars a million?

475
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do with it?

476
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. You're a billion dollars John, a

477
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: billion dollars John juice. John.

478
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 3: That'll take probably two and a half years to make.

479
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: John John a billion dollars A billion dollars, a billion,

480
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: a billion.

481
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: And I get control of what he No, you don't know.

482
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: You don't get the worry control.

483
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: You don't get control. He could do whatever he wants

484
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: with it. You get a billion dollars.

485
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: See, I could pay to take care of the kids.

486
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: The money is not an issue, right, a billion dollars.

487
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: But what if he well, you know, a thousand Johns

488
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: running around, and I'm like, I want to father my children.

489
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can successfully be a father

490
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Speaker 1: to a thousand. I have a family conference. I'm making

491
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: more kids with it.

492
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not having more kids.

493
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay, just drinking as long as long as no chill

494
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: yldren are made that I have to you know, I

495
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to emotionally invest into the level that

496
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: I want to. Uh, okay, I'll do I'll do a billion.

497
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: For right, John, I'll even do one hundred million. One

498
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: hundred million, yes, all right, ten million, it's one thousand

499
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: getting two nuts.

500
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: No it's not, No, it's not it's nine hundred and

501
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: sixteen and sixteen nuts. By the way, my friend is

502
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: writing a really funny movie on nuts. A guy has

503
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: of aseectomy and he uh can't reverse it, and he

504
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: has thirty loads left and he realizes he wants to

505
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: have a child. Kind of funny. So ten million, maybe

506
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: ten million, not one. One is too low. One is

507
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: too low.

508
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: Ten minutes.

509
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: But you're not You're not making kids with it. Nope,

510
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I know you're not making kids with it. Okay, use

511
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: your mind.

512
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: You just have to do a load into a gallon

513
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: for one thousand, two hundred and sixty two days or

514
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: nine hundred day.

515
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: Okay, the price is lowering. I could do a million.

516
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: I think I can do five hundred thousand. They do

517
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand.

518
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you? Would you do one hundred thousand?

519
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: Probably? Deal around there?

520
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: Deal? Will deal?

521
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: Deal?

522
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: One hundred thousand? Deal?

523
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: What deal?

524
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: Because let's do the.

525
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 4: Math here everyone, Hello, Okay, it takes about approximately nine

526
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: hundred and sixteen bucker rooneyes once a day to make

527
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 4: it happen. And if your load is approximately four millimeters,

528
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: then to get to a gallon it will take one

529
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: hundred and sixteen. But if it's up, if you're a

530
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 4: healthy mail and it takes five milli leaders, then you

531
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 4: could probably get it down to like seven hundred, and

532
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 4: it would take you a year and a half, like

533
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: around two and a half years. If you do it

534
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: twice a day, you can do it in like a

535
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: year and some change. But every time you go to

536
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: sperm donor yes, how much money you get from it

537
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty bucks, but then the hundred and

538
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: fifty bucks, So let's say it takes a thousand and

539
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: then one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty times

540
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: one thousand, that's one hundred and fifty grand.

541
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Speaker 1: So I just got fifty five fifty grand off you

542
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: that he can't be used for kids, can't be used

543
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: for kids.

544
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: I just put that in there, and then the next

545
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: line said, I can also use this for sport.

546
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: He uh he a snake contracted me.

547
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: You won't personally use it for kids?

548
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I won't use it for him.

549
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Whatever the sperm banks that make children do it is

550
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: up to them.

551
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So I just made fifty k off that.

552
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh man, if one hundred and ten dollars per wank.

553
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: So if anyone ever asked you that, say two hundred

554
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: or more, and it's.

555
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: Like, like, where is it going right now? It's being wasted.

556
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: Ye, it's being wasted a good time.

557
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, monetize that.

558
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Monetize that, dude, I do try to monetize everything that

559
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: it does. Go against everything I've stood.

560
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: For him, exactly.

561
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: Come on, John, Can I really go against my own nature?

562
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: John is a businessman, a businessman, yeah man, and he's

563
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: gonna make his business jam Oh damn, all right, that's

564
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: my question.

565
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: I played the game there we go so happy for it.

566
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: Figured out what it was?

567
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: All right? Shall we?

568
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: Let's do it?

569
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Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives.

570
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: Time for okop Rewlam.

571
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: My dad is marrying my ex and has no idea

572
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: that we dated, and now he wants my blessing for

573
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: their wedding.

574
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: God, I'm gonna predict that Op is not the a

575
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: hole because this is just too much of a mess.

576
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Like, are you kidding me? I can't imagine my dad

577
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: dating one of my exes. This is all such a mess.

578
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: I really don't know how I'm supposed to feel about it.

579
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: I want to ei their own fee. Here's a backstory.

580
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: My dad isn't my biological father. He and my egg

581
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: donor started dating when I was two and got married

582
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: when I was four, and then got divorced when I

583
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: was sixteen. Honestly, I was far closer to my dad

584
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: than I was to my egg donor, and my egg

585
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: donor would regularly abuse both of us. After the divorce,

586
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: he tried to stay in touch with me, but my

587
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: egg donor purposely isolated him from me because she was

588
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 2: so mad that he finally became confident enough in himself

589
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: to escape from her. Abuse. She was able to get

590
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: a protective order in place on both of us to

591
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: completely limit contact after the divorce, and then financially blackmailed

592
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: me to continue to isolate me from him while she

593
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: paid for my college. So basically the not mom egg

594
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: donor was like, I'm not paying for your college unless

595
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: you abide by my rules.

596
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

597
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: As soon as I graduated from college when I was

598
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: twenty one, I completely cut off contact with her and

599
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: reached out to him again, even though it had been

600
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: five years since we last spoke. I was very happy

601
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: to have him in my life again. Wow. My ex

602
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: girlfriend and I dated while I was in college. I

603
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: was pretty low key about the relationship because I was

604
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: pretty sure if my mom found out I was a lesbian,

605
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: she would cut me off completely. We started dating when

606
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: I was eighteen and dated for almost three years. I

607
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: also never told my dad about her, since we broke

608
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: up only a few months after we reconnected. He did

609
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: comfort me through the breakup, but he never met her

610
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: or really knew anything about her. That brings us still

611
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: last night woo. My dad and I have a standing

612
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: dinner date for every other Wednesday, but we've both been

613
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: busy for the last month, so I haven't seen him

614
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: since Thanksgiving. He told me that he would be bringing

615
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: his girlfriend to tack along, and I have to admit

616
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: that I was both sad because it wouldn't be just

617
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: the two of us like it normally is, but I

618
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: was also excited to finally beat her. Unfortunately, once I

619
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: reached the restaurant, I'm absolutely floored to see my dad

620
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: sitting there with my actual old friend. God, I'm absolutely

621
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: shocked to see them together. And when my dad introduces

622
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: her to me, he introduces her as his fiance, Oh God,

623
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: and tells me that he wanted me to be the

624
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: first to know. Apparently they got engaged two weeks ago,

625
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: but haven't told anyone except for her parents, who I've

626
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: even met before.

627
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so awkward to explain.

628
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: I must have had a shot look on my face,

629
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: because he starts going into this whole thing about how

630
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: he knows that I might be uncomfortable with him dating

631
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: a girl who's so close an ag to me, and

632
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: how the age gap concerned him too, because he's thirty

633
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: eight and she's twenty six. He said he knows it

634
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: would be especially uncomfortable because of my egg donor. Well,

635
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: I would never compare him to her, since she was

636
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: literally a rumor who started dating her tutoring student when

637
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: he was seventeen and then married him when he was nineteen.

638
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: The entire time I was talking to him, though, I

639
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: was staring right at my ex girlfriend in complete shock.

640
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: It ended up being way too weird to me, so

641
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: I just told him I needed to go after like

642
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: five minutes. Also, why is the ex girlfriend not reacting

643
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: at all? My dad texted me again today telling me

644
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: how he was so sorry to ambush me with that

645
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: information and that he was sorry that it came off

646
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: the way it had. He told me again that he

647
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: understood if the age gap made me uncomfortable. He hoped

648
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was some kind of creep for

649
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: dating a woman so much younger than him. He then

650
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: told me, and he felt like he was truly happy

651
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: for the first time in the last twenty years, and

652
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: he hoped that I could come to accept this, even

653
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: if it took me a long time. I, on the

654
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: other hand, him completely lost. I'm pretty sure he doesn't

655
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: know that we dated, and I really don't know whether

656
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: or not I should tell him. Don't have anyone to

657
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: go to about this, since he's literally the person I

658
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: would ben too normally, so I decided to let it

659
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: all out here.

660
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, she has to tell go to her first,

661
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: go to the ex first.

662
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: You probably have her number.

663
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, back to the episode.

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Speaker 2: Just to clarify again that my dad is not my

700
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Speaker 2: biological father. My egg donor was a groomer and an abuser,

701
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: but at least she didn't do that. Still doesn't excuse

702
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: dating a seventeen year old at the age of thirty,

703
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: but whatever. So edit, I'm going to text my ex girlfriend.

704
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: I know most of you think she already knew that's

705
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: what we thought, or that she targeted him or something,

706
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: but I just don't believe that for one my dad

707
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: and I don't have the same last name, and like

708
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: I mentioned in the comment, we look nothing alike since

709
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: he is Asian and I am white. Okay. I also

710
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: never told my ex that he was not my biological

711
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: father or told him his name. Do people do that?

712
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever even said my dad's name

713
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: when referring to him. That's so weird to me. I

714
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: just always called him my dad. I mean, if you're

715
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: dating for three years, like I know my girlfriend's The

716
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: only thing I told my ex about my past was

717
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: that my egg donor forced my dad away from me,

718
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: and I didn't really talk about it besides that because

719
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: it hurt too much. So maybe she doesn't talk about

720
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: her dad that much because of the pain, so that

721
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: makes more sense. I did tell her when my dad

722
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: and I started reconnecting, but our relationship was already pretty

723
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: much ending at that point. Like I said, there wasn't

724
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: really animosity or anything. We just sort of fell out

725
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: of love with each other. She initiated the breakup, but

726
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: after talking through it, it was completely mutual. Anyway, Since

727
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know whether or not she knew, I have

728
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: no reason to believe that she was going out of

729
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: her way to date my dad. I'm going to give

730
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: her the benefit of the doubt and tell her that

731
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 2: she needs to tell him, and that if she doesn't,

732
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: I will. Also. Some of you asked me why I

733
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: haven't told him already and why I said nothing at dinner.

734
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: I want all of you to understand and how important

735
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: my dad is to me. I had to lose him

736
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: for so long, so I do treat a relationship with

737
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: some extra care. Sometimes. I also feel extremely guilty about

738
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: what happened to him, and I can't help but feel

739
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: like it's partially my fault that he lost so much

740
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: of his life. I'm almost certain that part of the

741
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: reason he even stayed with my egg donor for so

742
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: long was because of me. He was going through physical

743
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: and emotional abuse on a daily basis, and a significant

744
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: portion of it was to protect me from her as well.

745
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure if he didn't love me as much

746
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: as he did, and if he wasn't so scared how

747
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: much worse my egg Donor would treat me without him

748
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: around to protect me, he would have left much sooner.

749
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: I feel terrible about the idea of him being happy

750
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: finally and me ruining it with the truth, John, what

751
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: the hell do you think what's going on here?

752
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: Ahole or not?

753
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I think you know, Op, not the A hole. You know,

754
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: Op was just thrown into this scenario. Opie's dad also

755
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: not the a hole.

756
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: He has no idea.

757
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: It seems like he has no idea, and it seems

758
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: like he has done so much for his daughter, which

759
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: is beautiful.

760
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: Egg Donor.

761
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: The mom definitely seems like the a hole on a

762
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: million different areas. Only one that's questionable is the girlfriend

763
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: because it's like, how did she not know?

764
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very suspect. Yeah, but I would love to

765
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: know what you guys think. Put it in the comments.

766
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: This is probably one of the craziest stories you've ever heard.

767
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: I also want to know if anyone in the comments

768
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: has experienced anything similar, because we've read I mean, damn

769
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: near a thousand stories and this one is just perplexingly insane.

770
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, please let us know what you think.

771
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: Entitled mother was not satisfied with the amount of attention

772
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: she got at my husband's funeral, so she called the

773
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: police on me. Okop, this is Okayop. I'm Samuel Donner

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Speaker 2: and I'm not fright, and we tell the funniest stories

775
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: on the internet. You know, Sam, I have this random,

776
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: burning curiosity. Have you ever been to a funeral? I have, Yeah,

777
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: But the one that sticks out to me most was

778
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: when I was like four or five, Like it's like

779
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: one of my earliest memories. I remember being in a

780
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: church or something, and I think it was for like

781
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: my great grandparent parents or something, and I remember literally

782
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: just running around the church, just completely a reference, not

783
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: realizing that I should not be running around the supper

784
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: this moment. No, sure, No, I was just like I'm

785
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: playing with my cousins.

786
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

787
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: Kids. Also, my grandparents were like super old and they

788
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: give they lived a great or my great grandparents great parents,

789
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: like yeah, they were ninety or something.

790
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lived a life.

791
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: They lived a good life. So it was more like, hey, like,

792
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: you know, we're celebrating this memory rather than and sad.

793
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: Obviously sad that someone's gone. But yeah, I just did

794
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: not give a flying trick and was running around. But

795
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: the thing is I was five. I did not know

796
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: funeral etiquette. But I have a story of someone who

797
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: should know funeral etiquette and just completely disregards it. Oh,

798
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: dear entitled mother was not satisfied with the amounts of

799
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: attention she got at my husband's funeral, so she called

800
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: the police on me. What let the woman grieve for real?

801
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: Gush, I don't have enough attention, the lawless gets involved.

802
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: My husband passed away unexpectedly last month, so honestly the

803
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: worst thing I've ever had to go through. I'm now

804
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: a single mom to children age between two and twenty.

805
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: That's a big, big age difference, big twenty man. Two

806
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: days after my husband passed, my entitled mother came by

807
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: and brought her three dogs with her, knowing that one

808
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: of her dogs isn't friendly with children, and knowing I

809
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: also have animals. Why are you stupid so completely just

810
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: disregarding three dogs to the funeral. I think it's not

811
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: the funeral. I think it's just so they come over

812
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: to the house. We had my husband's memorial at a

813
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: local park where we had been married. I struggled to

814
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: hold it together, and besides brief hellos, I only spoke

815
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: to those helping set up, and then I gave my speech.

816
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: I approached my entitled mother when I saw she had

817
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: a ride, said hi and let her know my brother,

818
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: who's no contact with her, was there. Later, I noticed

819
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: she was gone without even saying goodbye. That was two

820
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: days later. My twenty year old, he is my stepson,

821
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: who entitled mother has never paid attention to before, gets

822
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: a message from her asking him to come stay the

823
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: week to paint her house.

824
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Are you kiddy?

825
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: I spoke to my twenty year olds and my other

826
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: children's therapists, who all agree it's too soon after losing

827
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: their father for their brother who lives with us, to

828
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: be gone for a week.

829
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Not cool, lady.

830
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: A few of my younger children artistic. Later that night,

831
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: I called entitled mother to chat about it, and she says,

832
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: it's been three weeks. You need to get over it.

833
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: That's really insensitive.

834
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god, with that, I saw red, I let

835
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: loose and tell her I'll never be over it. I

836
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: then threw it at her that I noticed she couldn't

837
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: be bothered to say goodbye at the memorial, which she

838
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: then said she couldn't believe that she invited my brother

839
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: to the funeral because it made her uncomfortable.

840
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Ooo ooo oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry I

841
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: made you uncomfortable at this funeral.

842
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Ridiculous. I reminded her that that day wasn't about her,

843
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: and I let it loose on her on that phone call.

844
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: In the end, I hung up the phone. The next morning,

845
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: I got a call from the police saying that entitled

846
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: mother had called them and told told them that I

847
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: was trying to end my life. I was lucky as

848
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: I had spoken to the same officer only two days prior,

849
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: and she told me she got the impression that I'd

850
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: reach out for help if I needed it, which is

851
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: why she chose to call instead of a home visit,

852
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: which given my past history which entitled mother knows about,

853
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: they would have taken me to the hospital as precaution.

854
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: This entitled Mom is insane.

855
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: You are evil, ridiculous. I've now gone no contact with

856
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: entitled Mother. I fully believe her that she only invited

857
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: my son over as she knows he has been one

858
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: of my biggest supports as retaliation for not giving her

859
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: enough attention at the memorial. After I went no contact,

860
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: I found out she told my other step son that

861
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: she only came because it would have looked bad on

862
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: her if she didn't.

863
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

864
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: Others also told me she kept yelling at my brother

865
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: and complaining that I wasn't leaning on her her support.

866
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I've gone no contact.

867
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Speaker 3: I don't want The show was.

868
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Speaker 2: Sponsored by Betterhelp. Oh yeah, John, So we've read tons

869
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870
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871
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Speaker 2: to work, basically their entire life.

872
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

873
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen literally hundreds of these stories and

874
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Speaker 1: we absolutely love getting them.

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Speaker 1: I think.

878
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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I love our show. I think

879
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: we give some great advice, but if you want some

880
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