WEBVTT - Burning the Sheets 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.640 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:20.239 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Pre Recorded from the Home Bunker. Folks, 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.759 I am so excited to welcome back to wok F 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.440 Daily after a very long time away my friend the 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.159 Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make It Plain. You know, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.920 whenever Mark and I have the opportunity to get into conversation, 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.919 you know, I never know where it is going to 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.840 take us because there is always so much to cover, 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.600 and it is always so rich and informating. But also 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.240 I said informing, I'm that informative, but you can tell 0:00:54.280 --> 0:01:00.200 I'm tired. But the conversations are always so good and 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.000 and I talk about a range of things, but it 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:07.720 always centers around justice. It always centers around what are 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.640 we gonna do? Mark makes a joke on this episode 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.759 that I always look to him to tell us about 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.039 the Civil rights era as if he was, like, you know, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.000 a grown man at that time. He was not, but 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:24.000 he's older than me, so I always looked at him. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.520 And because he is, you know, and has been steeped 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.440 in the Black church and in the you know, movement 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.840 for Black liberation, and you know, has been shoulder to 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.760 shoulder literally with some of the great leaders of our time. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.720 And so you know, I hope that you enjoy today's conversation. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.640 I always enjoy having Mark on the show, and I 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:56.400 hope that you take something good from it. My conversation 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:02.880 with our friend Mark Thompson is coming up next, folks. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.279 I am so excited to welcome back to WOKF Daily 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.880 after kind of a long time my friend, the Reverend 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:16.880 Mark Thompson, who is the host of Make It Plain. Mark, 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.600 we have been I don't know how many times people 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.000 say the word historic, how many times people a week 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.960 say the word extraordinary. But we are living in some 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:36.040 wild ass times, very unpredictable, increasingly dangerous, and I want 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:43.000 to start with the fact that this Republican Party, who 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.000 used to be about quote unquote law and order, used 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:51.160 to hail the cops, used to uphold institutions and agencies 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:59.360 around law, now openly threaten the FBI, openly threaten the CIA, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:04.720 openly threatened a now former general, the former Joint chiefs 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:11.600 of Staff Mark General Mark Millie, now are just openly violent, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.760 hiding behind the First Amendment. And I just want to 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:23.040 get your thoughts on this moment that many people are 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.200 living on pins and needles. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.519 With Well, it's always good to be with you. Thank 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:32.120 you for having me. This is a pretty incredible moment. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.960 I can't even take credit for him about to say, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:41.720 our friend and dear colleague, Joyanne Reid said this not 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.680 too long ago, Danielle, and that is we are at 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:53.960 the end of politics. So politics is supposed to be 0:03:54.040 --> 0:04:01.000 about how who gets what, winning wi and sometimes why. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:08.200 That's it. This is a two party system in this country. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.760 It's not a multi party democracy like even South Africas 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.080 or other countries for that matter. And so when you 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:20.960 have a two party democracy and one party is engaging 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:30.080 in intimidation and suppression and violence and literally not governing, yes, 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:31.200 that leads. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:31.919 It to the other party. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.479 Where in the way it's set up, it's not as 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.520 if the other party has an absolute majority or able 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.560 to govern. In fact, the party doesn't want to govern, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.400 is building super majorities around the country. So I want 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.680 people to remember six years ago to the march on Washington, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.800 Doctor King said in a position in nullification, I hope 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.440 everybody those are big words. Then what a mean what 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.040 doctor King say in like fucking black church preacher, like 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.320 doctor King say something heavy. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:57.000 I don't know. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.680 I don't understand what he said, but it shows sound 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.840 good and now I hope people understand what he meant 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:06.000 by that. This is the interposition and nullification of not 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.479 just the functioning of the government, but the functionality of 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:15.160 delivering services to American citizens, whom are taxpayers and whom 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.720 are not even taxpayers. We're gonna shut it down, We're 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.120 gonna make it it's not gonna functions. It's a more 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.720 sophisticated form of anarchy, but the violence and the threats 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:31.680 of violence also bring about a more physical form of 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.240 anarchy as well. So we are dealing with with with anarchists. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.560 So we're not talking about politics anymore. We're not talking 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.040 about delivery of services. We're not talking about a two 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.279 party system where there's a balance and one other political 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:49.800 entity is seeking votes and support based upon policy that 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:50.479 they want to happen. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.520 They just want to stop everything. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.760 Stop women, yep from functioning, stop voting, stop us from voting, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.839 just stop stop stop stop stop black people from walking. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.440 Down the store. You know, anything you can stop. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:09.400 And as Joyce said the other day, you know, the 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.279 media also bears some responsibility in this because at some 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.080 point people need to be made to understand that not 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.480 only is this into politics, but there are there's no equivalency. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:25.240 This is false equivalency. Yeap, what there is no. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:32.520 Equivalent between Hunter Biden and Donald Trump. No, that's not 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.000 about that. That does not nullify. That's not mutual nullification. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.680 Hunter Biden is obviously being held accountable for whatever crimes 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.599 he's accused of Donald Trump. It is well, but Hunter 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.159 Biden didn't run for president, and in living White House, 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:47.560 he's not the president. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.080 And it's never been an elected official, right, has never 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.880 run for office. So what wrongdoing he does in his 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.800 own life has the implications for his own life. The 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.320 wrongdoings that Donald Trump and his criminalized family have done 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.120 have implications for the nation. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:12.720 Right, and Trump is the conclusion. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:20.240 He is the He is the cumulative result of this effort, 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.360 going back to Reagan, the stop government. Let's stop government. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.400 Let's stop government now, not only again, we stop it. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.680 We can be anarchists, we can be insurrectionists, we can 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:36.080 overthrow it, we can literally stop elections. And he is 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.600 the cumulative manifestation of this coming together at this hour. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:49.320 So this truly is a different place, and the sooner 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.760 that people realize that and accept it and begin articulating it. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.360 That's the only way of going to But we keep 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.440 going around sinking, Oh, well, you know it's just high politics. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.720 No, what is the policy? 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:05.560 What are we doing for people? You're paying taxes, you're 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.640 not getting anything. Middle class is struggling, all right. I 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.000 mean not saying the economy hadn't gotten better, but still 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.840 that's relative. Yeah, economy is good, but people still aren't 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.160 making the wages they should be making. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.880 No, because inflation is still high, and the fact is 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.120 that your dollar does not go as far as it 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.400 used to. Right, And I think that, you know, here 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.440 we find ourselves in this place that I don't think 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.079 that we've ever been because you know, correct me if 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:39.600 I'm wrong, Mark. But during the Civil Rights era, which 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:49.000 was a dangerous time right in America, there was not 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.480 this or maybe I'm wrong. Let me ask you, what's 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:58.480 there this allegiance to lawlessness by the Republican Party, by 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.160 the white supremacy and the concernvatives that were working to 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:08.160 not allow integration in schools that were bombing churches that 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:13.400 were was there an overt allegiance by a political party 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.600 to just okay it. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:25.400 Well, to some extent, there was, especially when it came 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.280 to some of the state governments and the southern governors. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.200 Yes, George Wallace. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:38.240 Sent the Alabama State troopers onto the Edmond Pettit's Bridge. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:45.800 Bull Connor sent the Birmingham Police Force to sick dogs 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.320 on people and spray water from fire hoses. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.080 So yeah, but this is the first time you've seen 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.959 a national politician. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.480 Not individual acts by people. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.880 Yes, right, national politician encouraging it in this way, other 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:08.400 than the Civil War of course, and what the Confederacy did. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:16.080 But the fact of the matter is that now with 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.440 a national figure like Donald Trump, you have a president 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:19.120 of the United States. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:19.800 Think about it too. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:24.719 Even in the South, Eisenhower was he got caught to 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.199 middle Eisenhower had to respond to what was going on 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.800 in Little Rock, even if he didn't want to, because 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.880 at that time the presidency actually mattered. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.760 Kennedy had to. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.200 Get in things that he didn't when he was elected 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.199 president of nineteen sixty he didn't plan to get in. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.960 Some of the things he got into that came on 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.559 its own, and the movement made Kennedy an ally and 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.599 for a moment, Eisenhower was too. When he sent in troops. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.120 But think about it, that's when the presidency. 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:56.520 Mattered. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:04.600 The presidency no longer matters because we are at the 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:09.520 end of politics, that this anarchistic, insurrectionist state. I've probably 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.720 said this on your show before. We'll say it again 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.160 for those who may have missed it. But if some 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.959 of you've heard it, I apologize if it's ad nauseam. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:23.920 Remember you're you're coming from the civil rights era context 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.719 and folks, Daniel's asking these questions. But I don't want 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.199 you all to take her asking me these questions as 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.839 a suggestion that I was alive and fully grown. Do 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.679 I'm not sure that's what they're trying to do, but 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.360 I was a little bit came a few years later. Okay, now, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.040 but check this out. But I read I'm a student 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:44.760 of history. Now when I say this, you all remember 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:51.000 this too. When black people before integration, before desegregation, I'd 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.160 like to say desegrogation, because we never were really integrated 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.520 before desegregation. If we've scotten the white folks pool, they 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:02.640 had drained the pool. If we stayed in a hotel, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.040 there wasn't decerrogreated. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.880 They had to burn the sheets. If you all remember 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:06.960 in Django. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:12.720 When Samuel Jackson played Stephen and he should have got 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.400 an oscar for the iconic uncle Tom. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:20.400 And when Dango shows up, he says, where's gonna sleep? 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.000 Who's gonna burn the sheets? Right? 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.360 Lena Horne often tell the story when she was invited 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.959 to play in big places, they try to put in 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.160 the big hotels. Then they burn the sheets after she left. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.719 That was the mentality civil rights movement. So think about this, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:40.640 an intelligent, good looking black family of four occupied sixteen 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:41.680 hundred Pennsylvania. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.960 Yeah, to burn the sheets. Yes, in fact, you have 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:51.800 to burn the build yep, burn the country down. I 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.200 don't think that's heavy. I don't think you need no PhD. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.560 We don't need no whole lot of scholarship or fellowships 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.880 to figure out I think what I just I think 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:00.720 I just said something. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:02.880 This really ain't that complicated. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.800 And we've always had to have have had to be 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:19.440 the ones to articulate, hello, the truth about what they 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.160 did to us. See, the oppressor of the predator never 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:23.560 does that. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:24.640 M HM. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.319 Hitler would say, they framed what they were doing, They 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:30.840 put their spin on what they were doing. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.679 The Holocaust victims sayid, no, no, this is what's really 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:34.000 going on. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.640 Nobody heard them, nobody believed them even here in this country. 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.840 Oh man, Yo, they ain't nobody really doing that. They'll 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.000 tripping same thing here. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.520 They are burning the sheets and by this they burn 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.120 the sheets in the sixties and during Django's time. I'm 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:55.040 saying now in this era, they're burning down the country. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.480 I mean, Mark, that is a word right there, got 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.600 to preach one because, you know, because the reality is 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:10.640 that we all know, right intellectually speaking, that this is 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:15.640 a white lash from the Obama presidency. But to say, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.480 to put it in the context of burning the sheets 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.400 and the fact that this black family, this black man 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.000 becomes president of the United States, not for four years 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.720 but for eight right is still held up as and 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:36.920 will be, you know, potentially remembered as one of the 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.040 great presidents of a really interesting time in America because 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.200 we don't know what this timeline is going to be 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.720 of destruction and anarchy that we're in. But to equate 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.040 it to the fact that, I mean, this goes beyond 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.880 Jonathan Metzil's book Dying of Whiteness. This is like, we 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:59.760 are going to burn everything to the ground because this group, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:05.000 these people who we believe should still exist in shackles, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:11.000 should still exist solely in service to us. Dare to 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:16.240 enter into that white house. We're voted in by Republicans, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.320 by white folks right twice. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.600 And white women right in sixteen. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:26.440 So I'm like so to turn around and say, but 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.360 that was the whole point though with Donald Trump, because 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.840 it goes to Johnson's You know, if you can teach 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.400 the poorest white man that he's better than the best 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.280 black man, you can pick his pockets. Right, So you 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:45.760 give us your worst Donald Trump is the fucking worst, right. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.000 Let you give us the most ignorant, the most egotistical, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.160 the most dangerous, the most selfish right white man that 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.560 you could possibly put up to be president of the 0:15:55.680 --> 0:16:01.280 United States, the antithesis of what Obama is, and what 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:06.840 Obama is stood for as a smush in the face 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.160 to those of us that believed that we were on 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:15.400 the beginning of America's progressive transition and not this place 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:21.080 of deep regression. So my question is if they if 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:27.240 burning the sheets was the response, and burning down the 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:33.080 country now is their response to black people being in 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:38.440 a place of authority and power. Well, this doesn't ever end, Mark, 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.800 does it? Until they are sufficiently have burnt shit down. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.080 Well, and let's let's add to it. Let's let's add 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.720 the ins to the injury for white folks. They what 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.040 did y'all and Heston say when he was head of 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.600 the NRA, If you want my gun, you have. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.000 To come and take it from my cold dead hair, right. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.320 Cry it from my prior. That was a metaphor for America, 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:09.119 because is changing. America is becoming a majority minority country, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:11.639 all right. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:16.280 So that's this is the last grasp. James Baldwin put 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:16.760 it this way. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.440 He said, we have come to the end of one 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.280 language and are about forming a new one. America is 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.080 the last white country the world will ever see. There's 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:34.960 no more Western civilization, can't go no more west anymore. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.320 That can't explore no more. That's it's over. That's why 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.439 you got to go out of space. Now, that's right there. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.240 That's that's another word. Because we can't do anymore here. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:48.640 So watch this, doctor King nineteen sixty five March from 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:54.280 some of the Montgomery at the Montgomery State Capital. How 0:17:55.560 --> 0:18:00.080 after the Civil War, America had to had to, as 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:07.960 he said, engineer a segregated society. And this is what 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.280 he said, through their control of mass media, they revised 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.720 a doction of white supremacy. They saturated the thinking of 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:18.280 poor white masses with it, thus clouding their minds. All right, 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.280 then they directed all of this. They put new laws 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.160 on the books to Jim Crow, laws all of that. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.879 And then doctor King says this, It may be said 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:27.520 of the slavery are that the white man took the 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.840 world and gave the negro Jesus. And then it may 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.480 be said that the constructor reconstruction area era that the 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.080 southern aristocracy Danielle took the world and gave the world 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.200 and gave the poor white man Jim Crow. And when 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.040 white man had this Jim Crow, when his wrinkled stomach 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.200 cried out for the food that his empty pockets could 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:49.639 not provide, he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.840 told him to no matter how bad off he was, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.159 at least he was a white man better off than 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:54.880 the black man. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:56.120 Jim Crow was at birt. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.399 So what is Trump is the current manifestations playing the 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:05.240 race card. He's causing division because you don't want It's 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.480 what's where Red and Barbara doing. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.040 He's trying to do the poor people's campaign. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.320 The Poor People's Campaign, which Doctor King starter was to 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:11.440 correct what I just described. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.159 Hey, guess what y'all poor people? You know? Let me 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.480 tell you some commitment y'all doing mad as us? 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.960 Oh, white women in twenty sixteen, y'all know, robody now 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.040 mock you and Danielle Tripping were. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.160 Telling white women y'all about to lose role. They didn't 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.000 believe it. Yep, we get it. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.639 We're voting for the white woman that you don't vote 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.240 for because y'all got crabs in the barrel. Remember we 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.120 weren't serious exam when the white woman called my show 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:36.879 and said my white women got crabs in the barrel. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.439 Right. We tried to tell y'all nobody believe it. Oh, 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.040 y'all just cu y'all been saying that for fifty years. No, 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:44.640 they've been fighting it for fifty years. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.520 If we fought for one thing for fifty years, rather 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.080 than think we're gonna get it tomorrow on Instagram, think 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.840 how far we would be. So doctor King's trying to 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.800 correct that, they kill him right when Barbie tries to. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.119 Correct it, and I going, I'm into West Virginia. How 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.959 many these places people? I'm doing bad? 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.359 You got to distract them into Donald Trump and the 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.240 foolishness and the hating us and trying to see. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.640 We got to stop women. Man, yw you're gonna pay 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.360 your rent now, I gotta stop women. But you ain't 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.919 got no money. Let's stop stop right there. Let's talk 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:14.320 about how to. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.120 Get you some money, get you a real job, get 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:22.160 you some real income. Nobody's a bigger reparations activist than 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:29.240 me advocate. We are when white folks got fah loans, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.440 homestead act all the things that are set up the 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.640 middle class. Middle class didn't come out from no cabbage patch. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.960 All right, All that's obsolete. Now we need reparations. And 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.520 I would even dare say white folks need a middle 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:42.400 class upgrade. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.520 We do twice, they do once. So when you speak 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.080 in those terms and. 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.200 People can't really get mad at you, they just ignore 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.879 it because it's easier to be racist. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.359 Yep, it's easier to hate ya. 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.760 It's easier, and it's the same thing. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.119 It's no different. We all are guilty of it. We 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.320 just had a strike, was striking over for the actors. Folks, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.720 Black actors got to stick together. We're still on strike. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:13.840 We all are anesthetized by media. Netflix. We don't Netflix 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.120 and chill. We Netflix and get intoxicated and zoned out 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:17.840 from reality. 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:23.160 Yep. And now because it's a pacifier, it is a pacifier. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.080 But see for them Fox is there Netflix? That just 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.440 ain't ours, ain't no different from us. They checking out 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.840 on Fox. We check it out on something Helse or 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.200 Love and Hip Hop or The Real Housewives. All right, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.040 because that is the anestetization, and that's an easy fix. 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.399 That's the band aid for your everyday reality of working 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.639 too many long hours for too little money. So where 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.919 is the vision in America to change that? Where you 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.960 killed it in nineteen sixty five? You killed it in 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:58.040 nineteen sixty eight, twice. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.320 In April and in June. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:05.240 Killed it November sixty years this November, all. 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.560 Right, you killed it, you know, you know. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.600 Then Johnson comes in and he's able to do some things, 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:13.600 but then that's the end of that. Then you bring 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.480 in Nixon, and I'm antaed this lit nice little bow. 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:19.119 Stop Nixon. 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:25.880 Junkies who don't get help and don't go to any meetings, right, 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:31.440 never admit the drug controls them. You always had a 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.440 feeling you can beat the drug now that I'm saying 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.760 junkies that can go for alcoholics, I got this. 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.720 I'm in control. No, you're not. 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:43.919 The junkies for this anarchy. Many of the same people 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:48.680 that were around in the seventies with Nixon what a Knicks, 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.280 always say this was a botched up job, botched up Burkeley, 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.239 never an admission that you violated the constitution. You a 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:59.720 dog on criminal, I'm not a crook. The people Roger 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:01.040 Stone on Trump's man. 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.720 All the people, yep, yep, I like junkies. 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.880 They're still trying to prove that they got control over 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.920 their behavior that the criminality doesn't have control over. So 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.760 we can we can we we Nixon was botched up, man, 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:16.919 but we're gonna we can do this for you. 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:18.119 We're gonna fix this. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.959 At least Nixon had the sense they put he they 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.200 put a mirror in front of him, and they put 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.719 a crystal ball, and they said, you're gonna end up 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.000 like a guy in the future named Trump. You're gonna 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.120 lose all your business licenses, your businesses, if you're gonna 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.000 lose all your property, you might go to prison. You're 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.880 gonna have ninety one charges against you. And Nixon still 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.760 had the sense, and he was now calling himself he 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:40.840 still had the sense. You know what, I don't think 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.359 I'm gonna do that. I think I'll just resigned. That's 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.679 the deal we're gonna cut. You resign and all that 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.600 goes away. Trump doesn't get it because he's gonna go 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:53.000 down with the white supremacist slave ship. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.760 And you know, Mark, I really hope that that is 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.640 the case. I really do, because you know, when Joyce 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.640 said this is the end of politics, I had said 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.600 in twenty sixteen, this is white supremacy's last stand that day, 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.120 Election Day. That is what I said. Here we are 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:19.640 now eight plus years later, seven eight years later, and 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.520 we're watching this play out, the ninety one charges, two 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.760 impeachment trials, you know, losing the businesses on the hook 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.000 potentially for two hundred and fifty million or more here 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:34.280 in New York, right, We're watching all of this play out, 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:38.119 and I'm just like, but will it be the death? Now? 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:41.760 Do you know what I'm saying. If this is the 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.040 end of politics, this is the last question for you. 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:49.080 If this is the end of politics, then what comes depth? 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:50.800