Speaker 1: Look mare, Oh, I see you. Look over there is
Speaker 1: that culture.
Speaker 2: Yes, goodness lost culture ding dong los culture is calling
Speaker 2: back and back in tact tactile position talk to us
Speaker 2: about the mozzarellistick number crock that you were working. So.
Speaker 2: I don't know why this was the answer to how
Speaker 2: I should end my night. But I get home, it's
Speaker 2: three thirty in the morning, I get stoned and order
Speaker 2: Mozzarelli sticks.
Speaker 1: Bad because I know I have to wake up.
Speaker 2: But let's say ten to sort of mentally prepare and
Speaker 2: you know, cleanse really physically prepare for the podcast today.
Speaker 2: And last night I'm ordering my Monzrelli sticks and I
Speaker 2: see it says six monzarel sticks, and.
Speaker 1: In my mind that's not enough.
Speaker 2: And then this morning, when everything sort of settles, you
Speaker 2: think you didn't need one.
Speaker 3: That's the devil's math. That's sixth with Mozzarelli sticks. But
Speaker 3: I feel you, Dick, feels like nothing right. I think
Speaker 3: six is more than enough. Well, yeah, I order Mozzarelli sticks.
Speaker 3: This is the last time order monster six was at
Speaker 3: Alma draft House what watching The Boy, The Boy and
Speaker 3: the Heron, and I had to leave in the middle
Speaker 3: because of work.
Speaker 1: Call of a work call? Is that what you call violent?
Speaker 3: And it was not?
Speaker 2: What because I know you the second we both went
Speaker 2: in here today we both ran to the bathroom, and
Speaker 2: I know what that was.
Speaker 3: It was a work call. Okay, this is all to
Speaker 3: say I got six and I only finished four.
Speaker 2: That's a huge brag and an insult to me. No,
Speaker 2: it was ravenous last night for them. But last night
Speaker 2: was very celebratory. It really was.
Speaker 3: It's very nice. I did great.
Speaker 1: What an unbelievable performance.
Speaker 3: She had, very very fun.
Speaker 2: I mean I think about between twelve and fifteen people
Speaker 2: said this, and it just kind of kept getting kicked around.
Speaker 1: But yes, this is like the Bell House. This is
Speaker 1: like the Bellhouse. But it really was. It felt like
Speaker 1: a celebration.
Speaker 3: Was very nice. We made it proud of her. Now,
Speaker 3: what was your review of the Countess Cabaret.
Speaker 2: I'm still I saw the sheiks not because not necessarily
Speaker 2: because of the talent, but she was great. The Countess
Speaker 2: Luanne fifty four below was she certainly has star quality,
Speaker 2: but there's something that happens where she steps on stage
Speaker 2: and sort of everyone looks at each other and you go,
Speaker 2: we're getting blacked out. We're all drinking so much tonight.
Speaker 3: I asked you, was it like going to the Disney
Speaker 3: World character breakfast?
Speaker 1: It was not unlike that.
Speaker 3: It was like seeing Goofy come out while you're eating
Speaker 3: a Mickey shaped pancake.
Speaker 2: Let's say Minnie Mouse, Let's become Minnie. They're not saying
Speaker 2: Goofy comes out.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, oh no, no, no, it's not what I
Speaker 3: was saying, Lou. If you're watching, if you're.
Speaker 1: You're just saying, Lou had the impact of Goofy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, not anything to do with the
Speaker 2: air get sucked out rundred percent. Like when Goofy walks
Speaker 2: in the room. It's like Nicole Kimmen and the Chanel
Speaker 2: number five commercial by Baz Luhrmann. It's just like, you know,
Speaker 2: you know the commercial I'm talking about. I think so
Speaker 2: speaking of fragrances, I want you to smell me right
Speaker 2: here and tell me what it is.
Speaker 3: Okay, go you know what this is? By Rado.
Speaker 1: No, it's acts.
Speaker 2: Oh so I have yesterday I said about one. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I have no deal to New York. I don't know
Speaker 2: what happened. My New York apartment has no deal, and
Speaker 2: my mother was like, I want to get you something
Speaker 2: for Christmas. I said, don't, I don't want anything. She goes, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll get you a bunch of little small things. Ten
Speaker 2: axe Deordorance, which is both a trigger to like high
Speaker 2: school locker room and also quite out of fashion.
Speaker 3: But that is like the timeless, enduring thing about suburban
Speaker 3: life is that you're never more than half a mile
Speaker 3: away from it from.
Speaker 2: An axe body spray, especially from Long Island. That's like
Speaker 2: a big culture axe body spray. Yes, and so I do.
Speaker 2: I am walking around and it's sort of like a
Speaker 2: little bit of having a little bit of how I
Speaker 2: am a little triggered.
Speaker 3: But also it's horny. It's horny.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I wanted you to smell me to
Speaker 2: get your horned up for the episode. Speaking of getting
Speaker 2: horned up, speaking of horny, Speaking of horny, I think
Speaker 2: everyone's horny for well, first of all, Restless Leg Tour.
Speaker 3: We're talking eleven days at the Beacon, eleven days at
Speaker 3: the Bed's at the Yeah, I love my surprise. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: of course, well of course, and it's the Beacon and
Speaker 3: New York. I think they're all sold out. But well yeah,
Speaker 3: kind of elbow your way in. Are you going to
Speaker 3: sign the wall?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and I mean obviously if you guys want
Speaker 4: to come.
Speaker 2: Oh eleventh, I've been through the nineteenth.
Speaker 4: Nineteenth thank you for doing the math real quick.
Speaker 3: I did the math and eighteenth.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, now we have to officially bring around because
Speaker 2: that can't be the entrance. Hold on, hold on it
Speaker 2: really so weak?
Speaker 3: No, no, not week Girls have us coming back on Netflix?
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks fucking god, because I had been wondering about that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's coming. Oh, March is going to be
Speaker 3: a big month for Age for Humanity and uh, Mean
Speaker 3: Girls the musical of course the movie. Oh we're not
Speaker 3: calling it the.
Speaker 1: Musical and no, we're calling it Mean Girls twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: We're calling you about it.
Speaker 1: I said ten times, I said, it's called me Girls.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four, Mean Girls. Eighth note in the negative
Speaker 3: space where the A is.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's funny this person created and start
Speaker 2: our favorite movie and our favorite show. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 2: not even talking about Saturday Night Live, which also is
Speaker 2: in the top two a favorite show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thirty Rock, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine just go back in time and tell
Speaker 2: us in twenty sixteen when we started this that Tday
Speaker 2: is going to be on the podcast.
Speaker 3: So Tina fe is gonna be in the podcast. You
Speaker 3: know what I thought in the shower this morning, I thought,
Speaker 3: what did you think in the shower where you do
Speaker 3: your backside? This is where this I thought. Worldwide pants
Speaker 3: took down all of the tinfa on Letterman interviews and
Speaker 3: those were my fucking comfort watches in college.
Speaker 2: I told you, though, that you could find it somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Seth lied liar.
Speaker 4: Do they take them down?
Speaker 3: I think I think a letterman wants to protect his content.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I see I can't possibly begin to understand.
Speaker 3: And then also, I mean so many things. You love her?
Speaker 3: You really love this person so much, don't you. I'm
Speaker 3: talking to you, the Surroyal you, the Royal you. Everyone.
Speaker 2: Welcome to TFA.
Speaker 4: Gentleman and the Crew.
Speaker 2: By the way, this episode is directed by Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 2: It's Oppenheimer the film The Crazy.
Speaker 4: A Lady needs a Lot of Lights and.
Speaker 1: The Gentleman a lot of Lights blow out the Countess Loo.
Speaker 4: From Ladies Please.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Countess lou Yes?
Speaker 4: That is that is the original sort of Real Housewives
Speaker 4: New York era. That was my era. I once chased
Speaker 4: Countess Lunn down the street on the Upper West Side
Speaker 4: because I was so I was like, she's on the
Speaker 4: Upper west Side, started from the restaurant West They used
Speaker 4: to be there, and I was like, and I basically
Speaker 4: was like, I was like Countess and I was like,
Speaker 4: I work at NBC two, worked for University.
Speaker 2: We brushed elbows at the upfront. So wait, when you
Speaker 2: were watching Roney, like, were you were you sort of
Speaker 2: were you sort of like I'm Bethany, Like I'm like.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, no, I'm not Bethany, no way, no,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I used to watch the season one. I used to
Speaker 4: really love, like Season one. You guys were probably in
Speaker 4: middle school because it was before nobody was aware, no
Speaker 4: one was like working the camera yet nobody was, And
Speaker 4: it was just really I just wanted to see people's apartments.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: I wanted to see their apartments and make judgments. And
Speaker 4: I didn't need them to be fighting about stuff. No,
Speaker 4: I just wanted And so who was it was? You
Speaker 4: know who I was obsessed with at that time was
Speaker 4: Alex mccorky.
Speaker 2: Essentially, it had the show gone in a different direction,
Speaker 2: which was we just watched these people live their crazy
Speaker 2: lives and it wasn't like a conflict in the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: totally because people gravitated towards you know.
Speaker 3: That's so funny though, because I think Architectural Digest home
Speaker 3: tours have like scratched the itch or like taken over
Speaker 3: that little fascination we have of like people's homes and
Speaker 3: like that's fully been supplanted, right and just.
Speaker 4: Be like just go and look in apartments. But remember
Speaker 4: when she was redoing her Booklyn Townhouse and Jill's Aren
Speaker 4: came over and she's like, we're restoring this Spanish when
Speaker 4: she was like, honey, you don't have to save everything
Speaker 4: that's not a good bands like Jill's Jill Zaren Almost Yeah,
Speaker 4: who else wasn't.
Speaker 2: That original Ramona No I just recently picked for some reason.
Speaker 2: This was on. It was the fashion show episode where
Speaker 2: Ramona walked with those crazy eyes and Jill is just
Speaker 2: dragging and just like killing it in the front row. Yeah, commedically,
Speaker 2: comedically totally, it was really on fire. Yeah, they kind
Speaker 2: of buy like their second season, so this was not
Speaker 2: the phenomenon back then either. But it wasn't this thing
Speaker 2: where like they saw themselves for the first time on
Speaker 2: TV and then they got the work done, just like facially.
Speaker 4: Happens to everyone. I mean, you see yourself on TV
Speaker 4: and you go, oh no, breakdown, Oh no, what are
Speaker 4: we gonna do about this?
Speaker 1: In my face? All the time people see my face
Speaker 1: as that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of universal, do you have any thoughts about
Speaker 3: this epic universe announce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we know you're a Disney gay like us.
Speaker 4: Well listen, I'm gonna check it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My instinct, my gut instinct is oh honey, it's SNL
Speaker 4: MAD TV. There's the taste maker at the core defines
Speaker 4: the thing, right, and so Walt Disney is.
Speaker 3: But I'll go, yeah, yeah, you're going to be there,
Speaker 3: But I'll go and we all love we like mat TV.
Speaker 4: And there are amazing things that mattieving, amazing, hilarious people
Speaker 4: came out of that TV. But there just wasn't that unifying.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, totally, Well what if I told you this?
Speaker 2: So one of the announcements they said was that there's
Speaker 2: going to be a Frankenstein ride and the star of
Speaker 2: the pre show. Is Victoria Frankenstein the great grand daughter
Speaker 2: of Doctor.
Speaker 4: But is that the Diablo Cody movie that's I conflated
Speaker 4: this last week.
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of Girl Boss Frankenstein's happening right now
Speaker 2: in the culture. We have to differentiate.
Speaker 4: Universal is trying to use that understanding, the Universal Monster's
Speaker 4: catalog and fun ways, and I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 2: If you went in there and said I'll play Doctor
Speaker 2: Victoria Frankenstein, you, first of all, you book.
Speaker 4: Media seventeen shows a week, seventeen nine minute shows a week, every.
Speaker 3: Day, you wouldn't even do the pre show. I do
Speaker 3: a cue.
Speaker 4: That's mean a c I mean listen is in my
Speaker 4: heart of hearts and my holding out for a Disney queue.
Speaker 4: Of course, did I at one point try to volunteer
Speaker 4: me and Amy Poehler to do Sarah Palin and Hillary
Speaker 4: Clinton for the Hall of Presidents And they were like,
Speaker 4: we're good, Oh my, well, I only volunteered it to
Speaker 4: my friend who's like the guy, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's a sam.
Speaker 1: A huge part of that makes me so happy we
Speaker 1: went there. But he loves you.
Speaker 4: I love him.
Speaker 2: I know you can tell it a special relationship.
Speaker 4: It really is.
Speaker 2: The Disney relationship is a special relationship. And that's actually
Speaker 2: really Coach number eighty eight.
Speaker 3: The Disney relationship is a special relationship. God blessed Sam
Speaker 3: because Sam took us on guard to the Alexy Cosmic
Speaker 3: rewind no less than seven times.
Speaker 4: Which is not medically advisable. No you, yes, it's beautiful,
Speaker 4: but I manage were like, I can do it once. Also,
Speaker 4: you don't not see a lot of protein spills outside
Speaker 4: garden and just for clarity, that is vomit.
Speaker 2: Well, I've become that girl. That's like when the part
Speaker 2: of the ride that makes people nauseous comes up, I'm like,
Speaker 2: keep looking at the planet. Keep looking at the planet.
Speaker 2: Don't look to the side. You're gonna suck yourself up.
Speaker 2: You have your strategy, Yeah, I have my strategy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I knew this about all of us, that we
Speaker 2: shared this, and that's why I bring it up. And
Speaker 2: that's why now correct me if I'm wrong. You've been
Speaker 2: on the Avatar flight of Passage r of course, don't
Speaker 2: you think that should be him in the pre show.
Speaker 3: Just explaining what the band ties are.
Speaker 2: You have the scientific gravitas to carry that pre show through.
Speaker 3: I don't want us to fully raise the middle finger
Speaker 3: to that guy.
Speaker 2: It's not about him. This is about you. This is
Speaker 2: about what's best for you to be in that pre show.
Speaker 2: He defined the.
Speaker 4: Guy that c and I don't know if this is
Speaker 4: a true story or a story that I made up
Speaker 4: for myself. Either way, but I feel like someone else
Speaker 4: was supposed to shoot that and then and something went
Speaker 4: wrong and they're like, you have to do it.
Speaker 2: You made that up.
Speaker 3: I think you made that up.
Speaker 4: Here's well, no, Sam.
Speaker 2: Isn't it great to have a resource? The Disney relationship
Speaker 2: is a special relationship. You go to that person for
Speaker 2: information like this.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you a deep Disney nerdery thing that
Speaker 4: if it interests you, I could try to get you
Speaker 4: in on this.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, So have you ever done a voice at Pixar?
Speaker 1: A voice at Pixar?
Speaker 4: No, that's an oversight that needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, Okay, I think I got.
Speaker 4: Lucky enough to do on Ana. But so the guy
Speaker 4: Pete doctor who runs Pixar, super nice guy, legend, the kindest,
Speaker 4: loveliest man, and he invited me in on this super
Speaker 4: nerdy thing that sometimes they do where they have they
Speaker 4: I guess they used to do it in persons during
Speaker 4: the pandemic, they were doing it over zoom where they
Speaker 4: just have literally like someone found a case of like
Speaker 4: weird b roll building the park footage and they just
Speaker 4: play it like they haven't seen it, and it's just
Speaker 4: like from like nineteen seventy one, we're building the Haunted
Speaker 4: mansion and it's just like raw footage of nothing but
Speaker 4: like guys working, and then there's experts on who like
Speaker 4: they're all these imagineers who are talking about what it
Speaker 4: is and then they just drink really and it's amazing.
Speaker 4: And because it happens on the West coast, if you're
Speaker 4: watching it East coast, it's like start it's like two
Speaker 4: in the morning and you put your laptop and your Wow.
Speaker 4: But it's so cool.
Speaker 2: That was my dream, like until I found out it
Speaker 2: was mostly science and math and yeah, actually there's.
Speaker 4: A lot of engineers. Otherwise the people fly.
Speaker 1: Off and exactly.
Speaker 3: I need to reconnect with Sam oh Sam was lovely.
Speaker 3: Sam was really well as a.
Speaker 2: Tour guide at Disney who is an icon and a legend,
Speaker 2: and this is a big shout out to him.
Speaker 4: He's a great American.
Speaker 3: He's a great, great American. And then he said he
Speaker 3: was coming to see you, and Amy was it.
Speaker 4: He came to d C, came the first weekend have
Speaker 4: the show. Has been that the shows are so fun.
Speaker 4: I do hope you'll come to the Begon.
Speaker 2: I want to come.
Speaker 4: Yeah, please come, But was like, I I'm coming. We
Speaker 4: have the best time. It's the two of us. We
Speaker 4: take you on our little journey if we can, and
Speaker 4: we usually always have like one special friend show up
Speaker 4: and we go to these cities. People are so lovely
Speaker 4: to come see us. And then we stay at a
Speaker 4: nice hotel. And I've said this before, but it is
Speaker 4: like we get up. Like the other night, I really
Speaker 4: did text Amy before a show and I was like,
Speaker 4: right before we went out, she was on the other
Speaker 4: side of sage. Was like, I'm getting excited about going
Speaker 4: to sleep because we do like we have so much fun.
Speaker 4: Like I'm also learning, like I love the part where
Speaker 4: we do the show. And I was like, I guess
Speaker 4: some people go on tour because they want to party
Speaker 4: after the show or whatever. They want to hook up.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I like the part where we
Speaker 4: do the show and sometimes if we have a new
Speaker 4: thing and it works. I'm like that works, yeah, And
Speaker 4: then I go home and I wash my face and
Speaker 4: I like stand in silence facing a wall like I'm
Speaker 4: like a little.
Speaker 2: Like you let yourself like charge.
Speaker 4: And I'm like satisfied.
Speaker 3: But I think this is just a function of like time.
Speaker 3: And I will say for Matt and I, it's exceptional
Speaker 3: if we go out after the show.
Speaker 2: I mean even yesterday, like we were in Bowen's dressing room,
Speaker 2: like and Bowen comes in, He's like, all right, so
Speaker 2: the after party and we were all were like at
Speaker 2: the same time, like we don't know, it might be
Speaker 2: a quick drink.
Speaker 3: They were hung over from lou An Good.
Speaker 4: That's the difference. You still look really good.
Speaker 3: I put on concealer because today because the camera is
Speaker 3: because I'm just away from people.
Speaker 2: I love it. If I knew how to do my
Speaker 2: own concealer, I would do it. Is it as simple
Speaker 2: as that kind of.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I tried. I tried to do my
Speaker 4: make up today, and I probably will see this and
Speaker 4: be like, oh, it was like coming from a matine
Speaker 4: of playing missus love it. I'm always trying to use
Speaker 4: I didn't get to my husband went, I didn't get
Speaker 4: see it. I was touring, all right. I try to
Speaker 4: use that rare beauty blush, which is but it's so
Speaker 4: pigmented that then I do it and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: either fucking great.
Speaker 1: Or have you been?
Speaker 2: Have you checked in on the new Feud?
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it yet, but I think I will.
Speaker 4: I don't watch every part of the the Murphy Verse,
Speaker 4: but that one I'm like, you might get me. I
Speaker 4: do feel I was like, okay, the pr is over
Speaker 4: time because there's so many articles now about I was like,
Speaker 4: are we this is really what? We're this top of
Speaker 4: top of mine in every paper? But yeah, it does
Speaker 4: seem interesting.
Speaker 2: It is a lot of fun to watch just because
Speaker 2: of the like atmosphere of it all. I will say
Speaker 2: the entire story of it is just well, you know,
Speaker 2: Truman Capoti befriended these women and then he wrote an
Speaker 2: article and they never spoke to him again. And that's
Speaker 2: literally kind interested to see how it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: whole limited series because even in the first episode, you
Speaker 2: get it like they're not talking to him anymore, right,
Speaker 2: But then I'm thinking, like, maybe every episode will be
Speaker 2: like a bottless episode and be getting more into the
Speaker 2: specifics of who these women were, which is going to
Speaker 2: be great. I need more Callista though, at this moment.
Speaker 3: I got three different line rates of Demi Moore calling
Speaker 3: Tom Hollander venomous.
Speaker 2: She with her whole chest gets to say a slur
Speaker 2: and it's really fun to watch her just let it rip.
Speaker 1: They really let dem go for it, and she goes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I loved it. Well, I do you think
Speaker 4: that is? You know that he is giving these actresses
Speaker 4: like he's making people's phones ring who maybe their phone
Speaker 4: wasn't ringing them.
Speaker 2: Molly Ringwold's like her phone rang off the hook for this.
Speaker 4: And you know what Molly Ringold has been doing in
Speaker 4: the meantime.
Speaker 3: Translating French book, translating French yes book, Yes Lie with me.
Speaker 3: It's it's a really sad gay French novel.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's really smart, she's very I believe that. No,
Speaker 3: she's incredible, she's a very she's a great American.
Speaker 1: Well, one of my.
Speaker 2: Obsessions at this moment is Chloe seventy now that this
Speaker 2: has all been happening, and apparently Chloe simply broke down
Speaker 2: on the day where she had to shoot with Molly
Speaker 2: Ringwold because that was how much Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: That's uh huh. Chloe, who's like the coolest like you
Speaker 2: would imagine, it's like very unbothered about the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Actually in interviews, like I watched her on Jimmy the
Speaker 2: other night and she's very like like y'all y' she's
Speaker 2: like like everybody, Oh, I cry, I.
Speaker 3: Break down to Molly Ringwold just like you, me and
Speaker 3: everyone else. That's the shared I guess American experience. I'm
Speaker 3: kind of tying this back to a national sort of narrative.
Speaker 2: Well, she also was like they did this thing because
Speaker 2: like you know, she's obviously a fashion icon Chloe, and
Speaker 2: they were like looking back at all of her iconic
Speaker 2: looks because she was like that she really was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had nothing nice to say about anything she
Speaker 1: ever wore.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh this, no, this, no, this no. And
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe that's what makes her such an icon.
Speaker 4: She also needs to keep looking. She didn't. She didn't
Speaker 4: just find a uniform and stick with it. Never satisfied.
Speaker 3: Never have we found our uniforms? This is your uniform? Sure, okay,
Speaker 3: this is a cream collar long sleeved collar, a kit
Speaker 3: Is it a sweat? Is it it's a sweat?
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3: So but that's I don't know if this is the
Speaker 3: uniform there. It's the glasses, it's the I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's it. You've changed your glasses though last year. Yeah, yeah, yesterday,
Speaker 3: I had my contacts in for the show and then
Speaker 3: they had to audition different pairs of glasses for the sketch.
Speaker 3: And then one of them had an actual prescription in them,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, this one has a prescription
Speaker 3: in them. And then my addresser Auder was like laughing,
Speaker 3: and she was like, Keenan earlier had the same thing
Speaker 3: happened to him, and he said, there's medicine in the.
Speaker 4: Medicine.
Speaker 2: Medicine by the way, Keenan Thompson.
Speaker 3: And I'm not and this is perfect, but this is
Speaker 3: truly like a an apropos thing for me this week
Speaker 3: where he was up till four am with us shooting
Speaker 3: the sketch, just rallying everybody, keeping the morale up, like
Speaker 3: getting everybody looked like like out of like the four
Speaker 3: am overnight shoot like Doldrums or whatever.
Speaker 1: Team captain vibes what a treasure.
Speaker 4: And again, as we continue to make the list of
Speaker 4: great Americans, who do we have? So far we have
Speaker 4: Sam Loomis Keenan who was somebody in between him.
Speaker 2: Chloe.
Speaker 4: I mean yes, yes, Top twenty, Top twenty New Yorker.
Speaker 3: With Hamilton up there with Hamilton. And do you have
Speaker 3: any thoughts about what she has said? I guess in
Speaker 3: a Rolling Stone thing about how New York is all
Speaker 3: Lululemon and dogs, too many dogs. But you're as a
Speaker 3: recent dog owner, yes, what do you make of this?
Speaker 2: Like? And as someone who's been in York for a.
Speaker 4: Minute, yes, are there too many dogs?
Speaker 3: I mean I haven't noticed anything.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of dogs. I mean I don't go
Speaker 4: I don't go to like the dog park and that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I have people that.
Speaker 4: My dogs poop inside every single day.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh they're a mess consistent places.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I I'm like, guys, I'm I'm the Queen of Versailles.
Speaker 4: You can't have this, and the dogs are like, we
Speaker 4: haven't watched that.
Speaker 3: No, have you watched the series Queen?
Speaker 4: No, someone just told me about this. I will watch it.
Speaker 4: I did recently rewatch.
Speaker 2: The original excellent movie.
Speaker 4: Fascinating incredible.
Speaker 3: The series is a little bit of a cheapened version,
Speaker 3: I'll say. I'll say that on the record.
Speaker 4: But because like all documentaries, not all, but a lot
Speaker 4: of great documentaries, it's they started thinking it was gonna
Speaker 4: be about one thing and it changes. That usually is exciting.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yes it was not. Like the most famous
Speaker 1: example of that is probably The Jinks, right.
Speaker 3: Is the Jinks.
Speaker 4: The Jinks and also Capturing the Freedman's which have you
Speaker 4: ever seen that?
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for first of all, because it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be about this guy who's a party clown, and then
Speaker 4: it turns out that he has his dark family history
Speaker 4: and they follow that. But you know that Silly Billy
Speaker 4: the party clown used to play the SNL holiday party
Speaker 4: up when seventeen. He would come and do like party
Speaker 4: clown stuff, like when I was a writer, when like
Speaker 4: Norm McDonald's son would be there. So I saw the
Speaker 4: dog and I was like, that's, oh my god, that's
Speaker 4: Silly Billy. Oh no, Silly Billy's family. No, he was not.
Speaker 3: What do you mean he did the party?
Speaker 4: There used to be a little you know what it was.
Speaker 4: They would have when the tree lighting was happening, they'd
Speaker 4: have bagels and stuff and they would bring their kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would bring your kids to the people.
Speaker 4: Would bring you know why, Becauselauren's kids were little.
Speaker 3: That's why there were no children about. It's just the bagels.
Speaker 3: And it's like the meeting's happening, like your sketch might
Speaker 3: get picked, it might not. It's like there's a lot
Speaker 3: of weird tens. But then the lighting is always a
Speaker 3: beautiful moment.
Speaker 4: It's a nice moment. But we were taught. You asked about
Speaker 4: New York and has Does neew York have too many dogs? Probably?
Speaker 4: Does it have too much lulu? I mean it's a
Speaker 4: mix in my neighborhood, it's a mix of like there's
Speaker 4: uh lulam and then everything else is vacant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess most of the time where it's just
Speaker 2: all dogs. And so I just kind of accepted that
Speaker 2: me not having one is I'm wrong and I should
Speaker 2: get one. I also like, now I'm starting to feel
Speaker 2: a little guilty that I don't have one. Do you
Speaker 2: remember when I hosted that dog grooming camp? I hosted
Speaker 2: a dog grooming competition show called howked Dog h a
Speaker 2: U t r excellent. And there was a day. There
Speaker 2: was a day where it was like rescue dog day
Speaker 2: and they made me hold one of these dogs and
Speaker 2: give a direct to Kevira like don't you want to
Speaker 2: save a life?
Speaker 1: Like how would you feel to know that you could
Speaker 1: have saved a life?
Speaker 2: Right? I didn't. And then I like handed the dog
Speaker 2: back and I was like okay later and then I
Speaker 2: felt bad. It was like, we need.
Speaker 3: To help me to help.
Speaker 4: The message that was the help. The SA was the help.
Speaker 1: I did my thing.
Speaker 2: I can be fun uncle to these dogs, actual children.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready for parent with the dogs.
Speaker 1: Do you want one? He would be a great dog owner.
Speaker 4: The schedule, yeah, because does no one brings their dog
Speaker 4: to us and ol people bring their dogs?
Speaker 1: That would be a bridge too far.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's there's a couple people. But it's fine, Like
Speaker 3: they stay in the dressing room. They stay in the
Speaker 3: dressing room, or sometimes they'll bring them out. It's okay.
Speaker 4: That's a different world.
Speaker 3: It's a different Yeah. Would never have flown.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, right now I think post pandemic, we're all
Speaker 3: like we've had a rough couple of years.
Speaker 4: Let's let everyone have what they need everyone, let's make.
Speaker 3: Sure everything's fine. Yeah, which I culturally must feel wild.
Speaker 3: I remember that this just comes with starting out there,
Speaker 3: no matter who you are, no matter what job it is,
Speaker 3: if you start out there, it is always hard and
Speaker 3: it is always a cultural adjustment. But I just remember
Speaker 3: a time like pre pandemic, where I was just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I was terrified every day. Every day, I was shaking
Speaker 3: just to just to be there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, would have never thought, yeah I went there.
Speaker 4: I was ninety seven when I went there. And I
Speaker 4: mean that I see with clarity now, like the nineties
Speaker 4: were so rough.
Speaker 2: Like rough, rough, rough, what sense? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Like kindness was not in fashion and.
Speaker 1: It would get worse from there.
Speaker 4: And no mental health was like what yeah, what what
Speaker 4: are you talking about? And that's why everyone ended up
Speaker 4: with some form of like temporary kind of OCD. And
Speaker 4: you know, but even just when you look back at
Speaker 4: you just look back at like nineties Letterman interviews, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh my gosh, she's just like haranguing
Speaker 4: a teenager. Yeah, absolutely, and we were like ha ha haaa,
Speaker 4: that dumb slut.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Actually that was the fifty five year old man told
Speaker 4: that dumb teenager.
Speaker 2: Will never be the same after that.
Speaker 3: Well, but like the Paris Hilton thing, I still I
Speaker 3: mean it's rough, Like I don't like celebrate that interview necessarily.
Speaker 3: It is incredible and the most in the best not
Speaker 3: the best way, but in a way that you're like,
Speaker 3: it's Letterman. And then I talked about this before. It
Speaker 3: was the thing that like Anna Dresident and I watched
Speaker 3: and we're like, so, I guess the Iceberg should be
Speaker 3: like I want to talk about this thing and not
Speaker 3: talking about yeah you know what I mean modeled it
Speaker 3: after that, Yeah, oh really yeah yeah, Like we watched that,
Speaker 3: we were like, okay, so like I just want to
Speaker 3: I just want to talk about my other thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it was like that was the nineties too. It
Speaker 3: was like really fucking yeah, making you squirm a bit.
Speaker 4: And there's just for so many things, even people like
Speaker 4: if you've seen that again, these are all people that
Speaker 4: I you know, hold nothing against them, like no, but
Speaker 4: like there's some old Conan clip where the lady from
Speaker 4: Melrose Place has no oh gosh, someone else, the other
Speaker 4: blonde lady Courtney Thorn, thank you so much. First of all,
Speaker 4: I think, thank you.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 4: I believe it's Courtney Thorne Smith and I forget. Maybe
Speaker 4: it's like I don't know if it's ConA once ad
Speaker 4: An Norm on the other side or something. And they're
Speaker 4: just like doing a bit, like some kind of bit
Speaker 4: that that she looks really hot at her and she's
Speaker 4: just try I want to tell her story from whatever
Speaker 4: it is the pre interview of like a funny thing
Speaker 4: that happened, and it's like two maniacs on either side
Speaker 4: of her, and you're just like, oh, yeah, that we're
Speaker 4: not doing that anymore. But at the time it was
Speaker 4: like ha ha, yeah okay, and those were like Conan
Speaker 4: is a lovely, kindvolved, intelligent person. We all were I
Speaker 4: should probably try to think of a story that I
Speaker 4: tell on myself instead of like but they were like
Speaker 4: we were just hard.
Speaker 2: We were hard people. Well, we had Seth Meyers on
Speaker 2: the show like probably a month ago, and he was
Speaker 2: saying that like the best time like that, he felt
Speaker 2: like the winning season was probably like two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, Like obviously when I went back, Sarah,
Speaker 2: do you feel that way too?
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like that was a crazy good time,
Speaker 4: and Seth was pad writer and was doing a great
Speaker 4: job and the world wasn't as dark and yeah for me,
Speaker 4: I felt like that was my prayer for Owen meani
Speaker 4: moment where I was like, it was I born to
Speaker 4: look like this lady, I guess so yeah, but now
Speaker 4: it all seems so gentle.
Speaker 1: I was there, I remember, I was. I was literally there.
Speaker 2: I remember. One of the coolest ones was it was
Speaker 2: the I guess weekend up day Tuesday or Wednesdays special Thursday.
Speaker 2: They would add those things and I was at the
Speaker 2: time like a standby person, like I would wait all
Speaker 2: the time, and so someone at the line like was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they actually they give us tickets for Thursday things. So
Speaker 2: here's you go, and you will Ferrell and I guess
Speaker 2: Daryl Hammond right like, and he was.
Speaker 4: Doing Bush and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: I think I remember that was the one that my
Speaker 4: parents were like, that was a little too far. They
Speaker 4: were because they're Republican.
Speaker 2: That was a little too far.
Speaker 4: I forget what. I don't remember what the jokes were.
Speaker 4: They were on board and then they got back on
Speaker 4: they forget.
Speaker 3: This is I don't think I've this is personally important
Speaker 3: to me, and I will never forget this. But I
Speaker 3: matriculated it with my sister was not in student housing,
Speaker 3: and so I was very socially anxious about meeting new people.
Speaker 3: And I had researched the improv group at ny in
Speaker 3: April of senior of high school and I'm reaching out
Speaker 3: to the facebook page Throwback and I messaged the Facebook page,
Speaker 3: when do you guys hold auditions? Does it work against me?
Speaker 3: If I'm not in tish, if I'm just a science major,
Speaker 3: does it work against it? I was so and then
Speaker 3: the person who answered me was AA dressing. She was like, hey,
Speaker 3: so funny, but just like cosmically there was something about that.
Speaker 3: And then she was like, don't worry, good luck with
Speaker 3: your manifad rentals, like bye, and then auditioned for the
Speaker 3: improv group made it to the final round. And then
Speaker 3: I was like, I really hope I get this. Got
Speaker 3: the email from anadress and saying we're so sorry. We
Speaker 3: were floored by everybody. Please start your own groups. We
Speaker 3: shouldn't be the only game in town. Blah blah blah
Speaker 3: game in town being n YU, the only improv group
Speaker 3: at n YU. I was like, okay, licking my wounds.
Speaker 3: My sister had gone out. I had the apartment to myself.
Speaker 3: It was Saturday, Michael Phelips episode of SNL. Tina Namy
Speaker 3: were just going on as Hillary and Sarah. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: get the call during the cold open live from Anna
Speaker 3: being like we talked about it, just kidding, we're taking
Speaker 3: on two people and you and like you're in the group.
Speaker 3: And then it was like this crazy shift, like something like.
Speaker 2: The culture decided to be good. No, no, no, it was
Speaker 2: just it was just like we're gonna it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a good time.
Speaker 3: The trajectory was like perturbed in like the best way
Speaker 3: for me possible. But like you were like the fact.
Speaker 2: I caused it, you caused it.
Speaker 3: And no matter what you were like, it was you.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's what I like will always fondly remember.
Speaker 4: Not that that's a great memory.
Speaker 3: That's a great memory, Okay, But is this the thing then,
Speaker 3: like starting at SNL when you did or coming back
Speaker 3: whatever the after party culture is at any given time,
Speaker 3: is that informing what you and Amy do after the show,
Speaker 3: because where you're like, well let's just go to bed.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean we used to, I mean we'll
Speaker 4: we were at SNL. We used to go out until
Speaker 4: I had my first child, and then I would sometimes
Speaker 4: begrudgingly go and they like you.
Speaker 3: Have to say with Laura, I'd be like, okay, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm at that stage, but I'm childless. I'm a childless Yeah.
Speaker 4: But we used to go, but I never was an
Speaker 4: after after that was always I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that would even be.
Speaker 4: No, I remember I feel like one time Tracy Morgan
Speaker 4: had like he did, like an illegal private casino somewhere
Speaker 4: the drash went to like the next day, I was
Speaker 4: like it was insane, Like.
Speaker 2: Of course, but speaking of all this culture so that
Speaker 2: we're talking about, in many ways culture that made us side,
Speaker 2: culture was for us. But we have to ask you
Speaker 2: this question, and it is of course a difficult question
Speaker 2: that has really open to interpretation. But Tina Fey, what
Speaker 2: was the culture that made you say culture is for me?
Speaker 4: Okay, I've been thinking about this question. I struggled to
Speaker 4: understand it, but I think I'm going to try to
Speaker 4: frame it like have you ever done those I am
Speaker 4: from yes, so if we frame it that way, I'm
Speaker 4: also much older than you guys, and so I'm really
Speaker 4: going back, I may say things that mean nothing to you, right,
Speaker 4: I mean try Like I am from watching Benny Hill
Speaker 4: as a family, Yes, yes, yes, what yeah, watching a
Speaker 4: weird old man, Ogle women m Kings, being like this
Speaker 4: is formative. I because a family, Like it's on PBS, guys.
Speaker 4: I am from you know a time when it just
Speaker 4: our whole life was. You go to Blockbuster, you rent
Speaker 4: the Stepfather, you rent the now incredibly problematic sleep away
Speaker 4: camp that's like and you watch it with your you know,
Speaker 4: gay friends. So again, if you want to talk about
Speaker 4: how hard it is, like cackling, like knowing like it's horrible,
Speaker 4: like yeah, or like it's me and my best friend
Speaker 4: Marlene going to Pretty Women when it first came out
Speaker 4: and immediately cackling, being like we're the only ones that
Speaker 4: know that he's a sex worker and this is grim right,
Speaker 4: Like Okay, this week it's Richard Gear, but every other
Speaker 4: week it's terrible, you know, ye cackling? What else?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 4: Real World New York Season, Why, guys. I remember getting
Speaker 4: up early with my brother to see the beginning of MTV.
Speaker 1: The first video like Downtown Julie Brown.
Speaker 4: Like video killed the Like let's put it on getting
Speaker 4: up to see Live Aid and being so and being
Speaker 4: so pumped that it was partly in Philadelphia and being
Speaker 4: guys like Phil Collins is on the concord. You guys
Speaker 4: see Phil Collins is on the concord. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: for whatever reason because the quality of the venue it
Speaker 4: was in wherever it wasn't Wembley, I guess, and like
Speaker 4: Veterans Stadium and pH or something must have been the.
Speaker 3: I'm silly and stupid and I thought it was just
Speaker 3: in the UK, know, And that.
Speaker 4: Was the big thing was they were like Phil Collin's
Speaker 4: gonna play with this band and then get on the
Speaker 4: concord and play again. What else is formed? Who I am?
Speaker 4: You know Sheila the Glamorous Life?
Speaker 1: Wow, thanks for that.
Speaker 2: You know, Kelly Clarkson just brought her back. Sheila is
Speaker 2: on Kelly Clarkson's album and I feel like no one
Speaker 2: talk yeah on the last Yes, like yeah, he gave
Speaker 2: her a special culture award. We did. We gave her
Speaker 2: like a we gave her something. She's been recognized by
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 4: Good. I'm glad she must What else can I give
Speaker 4: you? You know? The Divinyls I touched myself. That was like
Speaker 4: or like me trying to have to no success, trying
Speaker 4: to convince people that our junior prom theme should be
Speaker 4: there must be an angel by e rhythmic. I was
Speaker 4: just going to keep writing these papers and putting it
Speaker 4: in the box.
Speaker 2: Now wasn't ultimately under well?
Speaker 4: It was like Brian Adams Heaven. And then I think
Speaker 4: maybe a senior year was maybe like this is the
Speaker 4: time Billy Joel new song.
Speaker 3: I wow, but this is the thing where I go,
Speaker 3: how would I have done? How would any of us do?
Speaker 3: In like a bygone time?
Speaker 4: You would love it.
Speaker 2: The Blackbuster of it all really resonates because it's also
Speaker 2: about going to Blockbuster and only ever renting two.
Speaker 4: Things, renting two things over and over, over and over,
Speaker 4: over and over. Watching another one was like a rach
Speaker 4: Noophobia was a big one. I feel like there's a
Speaker 4: Martin Sheen one that I can't think of that was
Speaker 4: like a horror movie. Maybe that's right. And like also
Speaker 4: with my two good friends Jim and Damien, who are brothers,
Speaker 4: who between the two of them are the amalgam that
Speaker 4: are the basis for the day. Yeah, And in their
Speaker 4: house they had a back staircase that had been closed
Speaker 4: off and made into a pantry that was full of
Speaker 4: every kind of junk food and get after it and
Speaker 4: also just like it like it was the eight is,
Speaker 4: like no one did fitness. Your outfit was like a
Speaker 4: high collar thing with a blazer.
Speaker 1: It was just like there was no did you drink
Speaker 1: a lot of soda?
Speaker 4: Drank so much soda, would eat like a cheese hogy,
Speaker 4: So like a twelve inch hogy with three kinds of
Speaker 4: cheese and then still able to poot.
Speaker 1: Right exactly the body.
Speaker 4: And just think I'm trying to think culturally too. It
Speaker 4: was like VC Andrew's flowers in the attic flowers, reading
Speaker 4: those on like the beach at the Jersey Shore, or
Speaker 4: like on the trolley to work. Other weird things that
Speaker 4: I don't realize are like I was obsessed with Paul Young.
Speaker 4: That was like every time you go away.
Speaker 1: Originally like boy music.
Speaker 4: Well he was super cute, okay yeah, And like SCTV
Speaker 4: used to be on after SNL three weekends a month,
Speaker 4: and then the fourth weekend it was wrestling and he'd be.
Speaker 2: Like, uh, what did you imprint on on SCTV was
Speaker 2: a Catherine and.
Speaker 4: Catherine Yeah for sure, Andrew so aspirational song.
Speaker 2: As you say, did I use that right? You used that?
Speaker 3: You absolutely used for song is the word of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four. It's like it's just like a feeling of
Speaker 3: like something in the air, like when something is.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I have the free song thinking about this one.
Speaker 3: It's the table I got.
Speaker 2: I got there thinking about getting us on the Guardians
Speaker 2: of the Guy. Yeah, beautiful ride.
Speaker 3: I think that the boy music thing is like that
Speaker 3: is also a thing like the men of the eighties
Speaker 3: and nineties.
Speaker 2: Were allowed to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like there was something I'm gonna say, like
Speaker 3: set aside, like oagly and stuff. But like the men
Speaker 3: of that time hot I sound insane for saying this,
Speaker 3: you could look up to men in a way that
Speaker 3: was like fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can look up to men and be like, I'm.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm worried about what they were up to. Maybe
Speaker 4: I'm not even that.
Speaker 3: I mean I think they were. They were good Americans,
Speaker 3: good Americans.
Speaker 4: That's the name of this.
Speaker 1: That's the not literally good American.
Speaker 4: But we also, I mean we also were like Janet Jackson,
Speaker 4: Madonna go gos like that's along the rhythmics. I remember
Speaker 4: also remember when you rhythmics came out, like when the
Speaker 4: first Sweet Dreams came out and we were like people
Speaker 4: were scared of them. It was like different, Like she
Speaker 4: had that short hair and she was wearing a suit
Speaker 4: and everyone.
Speaker 2: Was like what she was vaunt pop And even when
Speaker 2: she did like diva and like did do her own thing,
Speaker 2: like it was still there was something sinister about it
Speaker 2: in a way that I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like yeah, just gender Bendy or the.
Speaker 2: Song why by Annie Lennox. I want that as I'm
Speaker 2: lowered into the.
Speaker 4: Ground, I remember, but I do say revisit. There must
Speaker 4: be an angel.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, Okay. And also I mean walking on broken Glass,
Speaker 2: like there's a reason for it. Someone's gonna sample that
Speaker 2: song and it's going to be just appear stranger things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like like that song taking off the all.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for the rediscovery.
Speaker 4: As you guys talked about this that that's the year
Speaker 4: of the the needle drop.
Speaker 2: Yes, do you watch the bear? Okay?
Speaker 4: I have seen some of them, but not all of that.
Speaker 2: Probably one of the most famous needle drops of this
Speaker 2: year is Taylor Swift love story on the Oh they
Speaker 2: did that, They did that and to get the Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift song must have cost a lot of money, so
Speaker 2: thankfully it paid off. Like the Bear the Bearrier doing excellent. Yes,
Speaker 2: you guys are crushing it out there. They are, they
Speaker 2: really are.
Speaker 1: It's so wild to see her like sleigh drama like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: I have to go back and get into it so
Speaker 4: I can see where her character arc went because I know.
Speaker 2: She's so good and I think it was like I
Speaker 2: always like, of course coming up with her, like we
Speaker 2: always knew she was so talented.
Speaker 1: But then I was watching Bottoms. Did you see bottom?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: I was watching her on screen there to see.
Speaker 2: Where the camera gets way up in her face and
Speaker 2: I think she's having a moment with her love interest,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you got it, girl.
Speaker 4: She got it big time.
Speaker 2: We were big time.
Speaker 3: You were in the edit yesterday for this pre tape.
Speaker 3: Every take, I was like, oh, I don't know, she
Speaker 3: knows where to find the can whatever the camera, but
Speaker 3: like and it would cut to me and it'd.
Speaker 4: Be like.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but when you know what to do
Speaker 1: with the camera.
Speaker 2: Do we all have this?
Speaker 3: Do we all have this thing where it's this there
Speaker 3: is some dysmorphia. If not, might be the right word,
Speaker 3: but it's like, I think it's getting worse and worse
Speaker 3: for me in terms of watching myself.
Speaker 4: I've reached a point where I don't do it, like
Speaker 4: unless I'm in unless it's something that I'm in charge
Speaker 4: of them is like I have to edit it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make this movie and I have an idea,
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna watch it. Yeah, I got it, and
Speaker 4: that's like freeing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when the it came out about the
Speaker 2: four Seasons, Yeah, the gay group chats were of course,
Speaker 2: that's really exciting.
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 3: That's a good link up again with with Tracy and with.
Speaker 4: Oh Tracy and Lang the best, Tracyfield and Langfish.
Speaker 2: The gays that remember the movie were like, huh, like
Speaker 2: they were very total.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, they're lining up already. I can't get
Speaker 2: over that. My two movies from Blockbuster were The First
Speaker 2: Wives Club and Golden Eye.
Speaker 3: That's that was my personality, Like First Vibes Club.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yeah, First Wives Club.
Speaker 2: So you watch it now and you're like, it's so
Speaker 2: a movie of the nineties where it's just like it
Speaker 2: takes a bit to get into being a movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, then it is, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: But I kind of missed the days where it's just like, no,
Speaker 2: the first half hour is just gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of relationship building.
Speaker 1: Yep, like a lot.
Speaker 3: Is it any first talk stuff that actually ever pays
Speaker 3: off in the end? No? Right, that felt like a
Speaker 3: nineties thing where it was like you.
Speaker 2: Just I think it's all worth it to watch them
Speaker 2: at the end saying you don't own me. And I
Speaker 2: can't remember anything else about the movie besides that. And
Speaker 2: you know who else you forget is in that movie?
Speaker 2: Kind of crushing its SVP.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's great in that movie, so good. She's great
Speaker 4: in that movie. She's great in La Story. Yes, she's
Speaker 4: great in Edwood. Oh yeah, I've seen Wait a minute,
Speaker 4: when Edward is so great.
Speaker 1: That's a really good one.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got two weeks off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not Wow, you do have two weeks off.
Speaker 3: I excited. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to the Beacond.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, except the Begon the Beacon.
Speaker 2: So wait when you would have a vacation from SNL
Speaker 2: back in the day. Would you go or would you
Speaker 2: just sit? Would you bedrot?
Speaker 4: I think I mostly just sat. I feel like people
Speaker 4: at s and I'll do much better sort of self
Speaker 4: care and living their lives. But I think in the beginning,
Speaker 4: my now husband was still in Chicago, so sometimes I
Speaker 4: would go back to Chicago for thee or whatever. But
Speaker 4: but no, I didn't. I never took one real vacation.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 4: Still learning how to do that. I'm like, oh, right,
Speaker 4: you book a trip and then you go there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Can I say I've never developed I don't think I
Speaker 3: think my time is up, Like I think if I
Speaker 3: haven't learned by now to like book a vacation on
Speaker 3: the two weeks off, and like, I don't think I
Speaker 3: ever will for my remaining time there. I'm just like
Speaker 3: I don't have that thing of like that admin thing
Speaker 3: of like let me book and here ABNB or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I think it's I think there's something about work
Speaker 3: there that like makes you want to stay put because
Speaker 3: you're just like moving around a lot or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to recover. Yeah, the thought of going
Speaker 4: to the airport doesn't seem good after that.
Speaker 3: No, never ever, I literally did this when you were
Speaker 3: in town last season where I would like do a
Speaker 3: show on Saturday. My flight was at eight a m.
Speaker 3: After daylight savings after the spring clock jumped forward, so
Speaker 3: I lost an hour and then went to the airport
Speaker 3: to go to London to then yeah, shoot, and I
Speaker 3: was just like, this is actually, this is CT. This
Speaker 3: is like there's there's there's a part of my brain
Speaker 3: that's leaving, and so I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think, oh my god, that's sketch. Last night when
Speaker 4: I was like and when the wind blows, I.
Speaker 3: Could shout out to Asha Ward, hilarious, she's this. She's
Speaker 3: a new young writer. She co wrote this elevator sketch
Speaker 3: with us as well. Yeah great, she is so damn funny.
Speaker 3: And yeah no she said that line I said on
Speaker 3: Tuesday night when she was pitching it, which was like
Speaker 3: kind of like going around with the idea. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's this People's Court, this actual People's Court episode was
Speaker 3: the plaintiff did have like the haircut, was that her
Speaker 3: scalp was showing obviously not her actual brain, but then
Speaker 3: like I think we're going to make it her brain
Speaker 3: in the skitches, Like that's amazing. Event and then she goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think I wanted to say, when the wind blows,
Speaker 3: I can feel my memories like being blown away, and
Speaker 3: I threw my head back. I was like, you have
Speaker 3: to put that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you must, you must. I did want to ask,
Speaker 2: so like when you're at SNL and also you're at
Speaker 2: the same time writing mean girls, like I guess I'm
Speaker 2: what I'm wondering is like, how long did it take
Speaker 2: you to do that? Because I remember, like literally at
Speaker 2: the time reading interviews with you where you were like
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see if I could do it, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then you so obviously could, But like, how what
Speaker 2: was that process of like juggling that because that seems
Speaker 2: like a lot of work all the time.
Speaker 4: I am trying to remember. I know I did a
Speaker 4: bunch of it in the summer. I feel like maybe
Speaker 4: it was over two summers because it was the first
Speaker 4: time we rented a house in Fire Island. On we
Speaker 4: left the fire on a guest tire had recommended just
Speaker 4: doing that, and we went and trash picked a desk
Speaker 4: and we carried it and I remember Jeff's arms got
Speaker 4: like a huge because you never it's not fire around
Speaker 4: if you don't get a weird rash and he like
Speaker 4: immediately got a ration and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: think there was deer pee all over the dea or something.
Speaker 4: And so the I must have been doing first draft
Speaker 4: the first summer and then the shooting. I remember the
Speaker 4: second summer was the shooting draft. Because I would get
Speaker 4: Mark Waters, the director. I would get pages of notes
Speaker 4: every single day and I'd be like, I think I
Speaker 4: did it and then be like, okay, let's go through
Speaker 4: today again. He's like page four and I'd be but
Speaker 4: he was right. It was like it was stuff of
Speaker 4: like where are they this that? Could this be short?
Speaker 4: It was like a lot of technical stuff. And there
Speaker 4: was an amazing woman named Jill Messick who worked for
Speaker 4: Laura at the time, who she also was just like
Speaker 4: poking me. Okay, like a lot of drafts in between
Speaker 4: unofficial drafts. So I don't think I was doing it.
Speaker 4: I must have been doing it on weeks off. I
Speaker 4: don't think. I don't have a memory of do it
Speaker 4: and trying to do it at the same time as
Speaker 4: the actual show.
Speaker 2: Like only because like and obviously like the movie is
Speaker 2: so perfect.
Speaker 1: It's just everything.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that like just falls into
Speaker 2: place in every way. Like I remember we were saying
Speaker 2: it was one of those movies where you sat down
Speaker 2: and watched it, and I knew I was going to
Speaker 2: and had to remember every line I saw with my
Speaker 2: cousin and I was just like, this is a really
Speaker 2: special thing. And then going to school, I remember like
Speaker 2: I was like all the track girls I used to
Speaker 2: run winter. I used this is a specific but I
Speaker 2: would run track and I would practice with all the
Speaker 2: girls because we would just talk about things like this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and everyone knew all the lines. And it was so
Speaker 2: funny because I watched my one friend sort of I
Speaker 2: could tell she wanted to be like Regina George in
Speaker 2: a way where she didn't really get it. I was like,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be actually mean, like, but the
Speaker 2: way she started speaking, I'm like, it truly perfect. Remember
Speaker 2: it was that anchorman. Yeah, it was like and I
Speaker 2: remember as a gay kid too, I learned the language
Speaker 2: of mean girls because that was what all the girls
Speaker 2: were doing, and then anchormag was what all the boys
Speaker 2: were doing. And so it was sort of this like
Speaker 2: code switch, code switch, Yeah. And I remember taking my
Speaker 2: dad to see it and like he was so excited
Speaker 2: because it was coming from you, and I remember it
Speaker 2: was just like this like moment that felt like a unifier,
Speaker 2: like in high school, because everyone thought it was funny,
Speaker 2: everyone thought the cast was amazing, And I really wanted
Speaker 2: to ask about Rachel mcaddam because this is essentially is
Speaker 2: a Rachel McAdam stand podcast. Yeah, we could just talk
Speaker 2: about her and yeah, but like I was reading an
Speaker 2: interview with you recently where you were like you mentioned
Speaker 2: like watching her act like change the way that you approached.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I had never been in a movie before
Speaker 4: and I didn't know what I would go and be
Speaker 4: in the scene. I'd only done SNL and I wasn't
Speaker 4: even really in sketches on SNL. I just update, so
Speaker 4: I'd be like I would literally be like in my head,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, I don't know if I'm on camera
Speaker 4: right now, so I'm gonna try real hard every time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like didn't know to even ask if I'm in this
Speaker 4: part of the setup. And she her performance was so
Speaker 4: small that I remember being worried and going to park
Speaker 4: watch and be like, oh, and then you get the
Speaker 4: dailies and it was like perfection. But it was very
Speaker 4: it was small. It was a film performance. It wasn't
Speaker 4: like me like.
Speaker 2: That all the time, like the sketch mentality of coming
Speaker 2: in in one mode, especially like because we didn't have
Speaker 2: any acting training coming out, we were like creatures of
Speaker 2: the basements, you know, like any of us. And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you book a thing where you
Speaker 2: have to be on camera acting and they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: just throw it away, and like, I don't know what.
Speaker 4: But you learned. But the difference is then when you
Speaker 4: see when you see people on SNL, when you see
Speaker 4: someone like Io who understands the assignment to use a
Speaker 4: now old phrase, it's bad, I brought it back. She
Speaker 4: understands what she's supposed to do and what sketch requires.
Speaker 4: And then you compare to well not name names, but
Speaker 4: you see people who come in who have only ever
Speaker 4: done film, whose performances are built in the edit room right,
Speaker 4: who have no internal sense of pacing or even energy,
Speaker 4: and you and oh, they can fuck up a show, but.
Speaker 2: They can slay the pre tape.
Speaker 3: They can play the pre.
Speaker 4: Tape tapes tape for them, pre tape.
Speaker 3: Literally all we want to tell people now at SNL,
Speaker 3: like all I tell the hosts all the time on Wednesdays,
Speaker 3: especially at the Rea through I go fast and we
Speaker 3: were just like, just do it fast and loud, fast
Speaker 3: and loud wow, and that usually it is plenty of
Speaker 3: dials it in. It's plenty.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's what Amy talks about, how because we do
Speaker 4: a Q and A and our show, and like we
Speaker 4: often get asked like, you know, who are your favorite
Speaker 4: guests and stuff, and she's like, I love athletes because
Speaker 4: they're used to being coached and they don't care. And
Speaker 4: you just be like, just do that. They just do
Speaker 4: it louder and like say it and they're like okay ah.
Speaker 1: You also get a sense that anyone with like a
Speaker 1: Disney Kid pass yep comes in there and tears it
Speaker 1: up yep.
Speaker 4: Also, by the way, people who've done and there are
Speaker 4: fewer and fewer of these people, but used to be
Speaker 4: people who had done soaps. Because you know who's Scott
Speaker 4: to start on soaps, Alec Baldwin, Julianne Moore. Yes, Julian,
Speaker 4: make a choice, make a choice and go.
Speaker 3: Get Lisa Rinna to hosts. Oh, come on, Lisa, Julian Moore.
Speaker 3: I think well, and that's I think.
Speaker 2: Our favorite movie of leaders made December.
Speaker 4: We Love Me, that's your favorite movie there. I enjoyed it,
Speaker 4: but that Four Things were my I haven't watched Poor Things,
Speaker 4: Oh love it?
Speaker 1: Oh you'd like Poor Things.
Speaker 2: It's Emma's Emma's another one like comes in and like
Speaker 2: just yeah, yeah, gets it, yeah and gets it, gets
Speaker 2: it on camera obviously.
Speaker 1: But Julian Moore, I.
Speaker 2: Guess because what's so fun about the movie is it's
Speaker 2: like purposefully a melodrama, right, that insane music.
Speaker 4: That music was She's like, we're out of hot.
Speaker 2: Time, yeah, her insane accident. But then she was talking
Speaker 2: about like she's like, well, you know, I started in
Speaker 2: soaps and I actually did the archetype of like the Twins,
Speaker 2: the twins, the evil twins, like the Amnesia twin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't even just amnesia or just twin.
Speaker 3: It was both acting opposite herself, wanting to kill herself,
Speaker 3: incredible kill the other.
Speaker 1: But like, there's all the sense in the world to me.
Speaker 3: But you said about Alex too, though, where it's like
Speaker 3: they're the Rachel maccadams thing where it's like just so quiet, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gonna work. And then you watch the she's like
Speaker 3: oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And sometimes you know, real stars, they don't really
Speaker 4: do what they're gonna do till you're on their close up.
Speaker 4: And so you know, you look at those first two
Speaker 4: seasons of thirty out Rock and I'm like hey, and
Speaker 4: he's like, you won that one.
Speaker 2: That one. It really is well though, because I remember
Speaker 2: you do a take and they're like, okay, we're moving on,
Speaker 2: and you're like.
Speaker 1: There's no way we can. I didn't do anything, and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, you get the performance of a lifetime.
Speaker 2: You just won't ever know because it wasn't fun for
Speaker 2: you at.
Speaker 1: All, right, Yeah, but it worked for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, back to Mean Girls really quickly. How many times
Speaker 3: did you see in theater because you brot your dad?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Come on? I mean, like, first of all, like I
Speaker 2: wonder how this feels too, because to join this thing
Speaker 2: of like it was like Heathers was Clueless and then
Speaker 2: it's Mean Girls, and that has to be really.
Speaker 4: Meaningful, very meaningful to me, Yeah, because those are you
Speaker 4: know how those and Clueless were huge informative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is my thing. This is my
Speaker 3: specificity with it is there was like a website two
Speaker 3: thousand and four and five in that time of the internet,
Speaker 3: called like the script Database or something, and they would
Speaker 3: either have the screenplay, the original screenplay of the movie,
Speaker 3: any movie you could think of, if they had it
Speaker 3: the original actual PDF or the scan or whatever of
Speaker 3: the script, or they would have a transcript. And then
Speaker 3: I remember reaching out to the admin of that being like,
Speaker 3: I will transcribe Mean Girls for you, and then.
Speaker 2: He said you do it.
Speaker 3: And I did it, and then and this guy was like,
Speaker 3: God bless you. The demand for a movie has never
Speaker 3: been higher than for me.
Speaker 4: You did.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna do it. And I
Speaker 3: wrote the fucking like the Slugs and the Girls.
Speaker 2: I didn't write.
Speaker 3: I transcribed Mean Girls. He was like, well you were fourteen?
Speaker 2: Wow? I was, And this is what I said.
Speaker 3: I said, I can get you the script. And then
Speaker 3: this guy, this like thirty year old man, was probably like,
Speaker 3: you mean the actual like Tina Fey, like the draft.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, I'm just gonna type
Speaker 3: out what they say.
Speaker 2: I like didn't know. I didn't know what. I didn't
Speaker 2: know what he was looking for.
Speaker 3: He was like, I don't care, I'll take a transcript.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's yes, of course transcribed yes,
Speaker 3: I will write out what they say. I'll see Katie
Speaker 3: says that, you know, like yeah, that was the level
Speaker 3: of like crazy fucking yeah.
Speaker 2: There's like joy in every scene. And I guess what
Speaker 2: I feel is like you forget like that such big
Speaker 2: deals came out of that movie to like Amanda Seifrid,
Speaker 2: like she's just so in the fabric of the movie
Speaker 2: having fun doing her part that you forget that she
Speaker 2: would then become like yeah, hello, And I mean it
Speaker 2: was it's like that down to to everything, And I
Speaker 2: wonder like, in shooting it, did you know that it
Speaker 2: was like did you have a feeling that there was
Speaker 2: something special happening? Which feels like a question, like boring question,
Speaker 2: But because it did end up being culturally significant.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I feel like, I mean, part of the
Speaker 4: reason that it worked is because those girls were so
Speaker 4: legit and took it seriously and played and played it
Speaker 4: so real, you know if they had been campy about it,
Speaker 4: because I think that's the thing I try to sometimes
Speaker 4: pass on and whatever writershims whatever is like no one
Speaker 4: no villain thinks they're no one's the villain in their story, right,
Speaker 4: Regina's whole thing is like it's hard, Like she's gonna
Speaker 4: come crying to me and then I gotta help her.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, no, one's a villain in their own story, right,
Speaker 4: And I think they all played that perfectly because you know,
Speaker 4: and you can see now like, oh, Gina's villain, Janis
Speaker 4: is a villain, Kate is a huge villain. Like everyone's
Speaker 4: making mistakes and they played them all perfectly. But you know,
Speaker 4: I think I was just at that place of like
Speaker 4: basically like is it gonna air? You know, we're gonna,
Speaker 4: We're gonna it's gonna get made. That was the That
Speaker 4: was the triumph in my mind.
Speaker 3: That's refreshing to hear because I think I think Matt
Speaker 3: and I are in that mindset right now where we're
Speaker 3: just like we're working on things and we're just like,
Speaker 3: let's just not worry about the contours of this. Let's
Speaker 3: just like the goal is just to get it made,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I read this book. I think it's called like Wild
Speaker 4: and Crazy Guys, and it's just a little nonfiction book
Speaker 4: about that span of time where like it's like Steve Martin,
Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray, Dan it's like all of when
Speaker 4: they all were blowing up and what movies got made
Speaker 4: and whatever, and so many of these movies that are
Speaker 4: just cannon to us. Yeah they were like didn't really
Speaker 4: they open and you're like I don't care, Like you know,
Speaker 4: I watched it one hundred thousand times. Whatever, The Man
Speaker 4: with Two Brains or like that was just there. Just
Speaker 4: were movies, you know, and to like not worry too
Speaker 4: much about like how it does, how it does, yeah,
Speaker 4: how many theaters.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Just you wonder, like how many things we would actually
Speaker 2: love so much that it just get written off. I
Speaker 2: wonder about that all the time. Like with the way
Speaker 2: the industry is now, like how many things aren't getting
Speaker 2: made that like are actually going to be things that
Speaker 2: we think about in fifteen twenty years, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like it feels very far in few between
Speaker 2: that you get something, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I think movies still are tighter. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel like TV because there's just so much more
Speaker 4: like you are getting, You're getting reservation dogs, you're getting
Speaker 4: you know, Simon Rich's Weird Show where the like, uh,
Speaker 4: Simon Simon, you know, it's what bottoms felt like. Yeah,
Speaker 4: totally so refreshing.
Speaker 2: It's just so incredible. Msgment, the director of that, She's like,
Speaker 2: I think she can do anything.
Speaker 3: She can baby in bottom and we love Rachel.
Speaker 4: So it's happening like and you know, my daughter's eighteen,
Speaker 4: my older daughter, and that is bottoms is everything?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Really everything?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, it's her mean girls in a way.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that's so cool. That's so cool. I mean,
Speaker 3: it is this thing where like maybe we're just because
Speaker 3: we're like in we have some awareness, we're like reading
Speaker 3: like the Ankler or whatever. But I'm just like the
Speaker 3: survivorship bias of it all is really hitting me where
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh yeah, if I think too hard
Speaker 3: about the things that aren't getting me that I start
Speaker 3: to I start to lose my mind a little.
Speaker 2: I'm still going to the casting of me. Did everyone
Speaker 2: audition for that? Like, did you get a tape from
Speaker 2: Lizzie Kaplan or were you like I think so, yeah, probably.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just feels like there can't have ever been a
Speaker 1: time when there was like not those not It's one.
Speaker 4: Of those things it's like yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: And Lindsay had worked with Mark before Lindsay.
Speaker 4: Had was coming. She had a lot of heat coming
Speaker 4: off of.
Speaker 2: Freaky Friday, and there's waters.
Speaker 4: I think maybe I can't remember. We should fact check
Speaker 4: for sure, but yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: she came and she remember she came by SNLI just
Speaker 4: to like hang out and be seen because she I
Speaker 4: think she wanted to be considered. She wanted to play Regina,
Speaker 4: which I think yes, and Lauren was what always Wise
Speaker 4: was like, no, you want that person to be the
Speaker 4: person who takes the trajectory to Regina. Yeah, he's like that,
Speaker 4: He's basically that's the part that you want. She was like, okay, but.
Speaker 3: Was that when both you and Dennis were head writer
Speaker 3: or do he used to? Yeah, that's so funny. I
Speaker 3: loved that.
Speaker 1: She was also a killer on SNL just people who.
Speaker 4: Like acted as kids also, they're just like, where do
Speaker 4: I stand on what do I say? Let's do it?
Speaker 4: Miley Cyrus? Where do I stand?
Speaker 2: What do I say?
Speaker 1: Everything?
Speaker 4: We need to push more children into show. We need
Speaker 4: to feed the SNL host pipeline by ruining children.
Speaker 3: If there is like some sort of surgical neuralink type
Speaker 3: procedure to just to implant that thing, and actress of
Speaker 3: just like stand here say it loud.
Speaker 2: Say you guys had that at the same time too
Speaker 2: that much.
Speaker 3: That's not what it souit. You would say that, and
Speaker 3: then this lesson I say that now, like to all
Speaker 3: the hosts, we're just like, just project, that's that's our thing.
Speaker 3: But we're nice, but we're not like we're just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: just loud and it works.
Speaker 1: I bet it does anyway.
Speaker 3: I mean, are incredible.
Speaker 4: They really were. I mean from home, they were nice.
Speaker 3: They were nice.
Speaker 1: Are you watching every week?
Speaker 4: Not every single week? But I try.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: What sort of got me back into the was was
Speaker 4: Alice being old enough to love wanting to stay up
Speaker 4: and watch it. But she was not home last night
Speaker 4: because she was at the cast party for her own
Speaker 4: high school musical, They Do Well the prom. She killed it.
Speaker 4: They all killed it. They were all great. That sounds
Speaker 4: like a girls production.
Speaker 2: Of Oh that's even more.
Speaker 4: That's a that I know, super cute.
Speaker 2: Oh the prom Okay, so that is a hilarious. So
Speaker 2: I think about someone playing d d as like a child.
Speaker 4: By the way, girl killed killed. I wish I had
Speaker 4: video for you because she killed Oh my.
Speaker 2: God, that's the good people like, if you could do
Speaker 2: one role. What would it be. I'm like, it'll never happen,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to do in the prom. When I
Speaker 2: had to do drag for the show I was in
Speaker 2: last year, and like I put this little wig on,
Speaker 2: like a little you know, side swoop, like not exactly
Speaker 2: Catherine's ata, but in the world, I was like, I
Speaker 2: think I am.
Speaker 4: D D I know I am Do you know Jeff
Speaker 4: math and Jeff yes, yeah. So he often brings up that,
Speaker 4: like back in musical theater, like major of college that
Speaker 4: you take makeup class, and part of makeup class was
Speaker 4: always like you had to do drag or like do
Speaker 4: you have to like you a gender swap with your makeup?
Speaker 4: And he really likes to brag that he looked. This
Speaker 4: may be total reference. She was like, I was very
Speaker 4: pretty and I look like Barbara Mandrell.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: He's like I was very pretty photos.
Speaker 1: Could you confirm?
Speaker 4: I have not seen photos. I know he's we'd have
Speaker 4: to has a beard right now, but oh right, right,
Speaker 4: but he might shave it for the opportunity.
Speaker 2: We might shave Just tell him if he wants a stage,
Speaker 2: we do something that the culture awards every year.
Speaker 1: He just welcome to come out and do it, give
Speaker 1: his and then you.
Speaker 4: Can judge whether he still looks like Barbara Mandrush Barbara Mandrell.
Speaker 1: Also you're kind of almost there with the drag name anyway.
Speaker 3: Totally Mandrell. And then this is what I'm saying, is
Speaker 3: what we're saying, the opportunity he's like a riper and riper,
Speaker 3: we're not going to judge him. It's going to be
Speaker 3: like a fucking v M a situation where he knows
Speaker 3: ahead of time that.
Speaker 2: You say, the Grammys are today, And we're like, we
Speaker 2: think people don't know if they're going to win a Grammy,
Speaker 2: but I think you know if you're winning like a VMA. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I bet yeah, because Taylor Swift has changed her Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's changed her Instagram to all black and white, which
Speaker 2: we believe means there's an announcement coming.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I wonder if she's winning a Grammy.
Speaker 2: But because if someone could, it's probably tell her Swift, right,
Speaker 2: Probably you don't know what the Oscars, You.
Speaker 1: Don't know what the Emmy's. You probably don't know what
Speaker 1: the Grammys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not people's choice, No, no, no, they want
Speaker 2: a ton of these things.
Speaker 1: They call you before.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I feel like I do remember one
Speaker 4: time with the Golden Globes, like Alec was nominated for
Speaker 4: thirty Rock and he wasn't and he was like, I
Speaker 4: just call him and ask him if I want, because
Speaker 4: I felt like with that one, maybe you could have
Speaker 4: and I don't think he was able to. And I
Speaker 4: don't remember if he want or not or but I
Speaker 4: don't he He was like, surely this one, they'll just
Speaker 4: tell me if I have to go.
Speaker 3: And well, I mean, I bet they would if it's Alec,
Speaker 3: especially the Globes at that time. Now, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: your guys host, would you guys go back and host
Speaker 3: the Gunner?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I don't know if it's a fain
Speaker 4: because we ended The last time we did it was
Speaker 4: this weird like zoom one that was the bummer. But
Speaker 4: we did used to have so much fun doing that.
Speaker 2: We really did. You guys were the best at it.
Speaker 3: Some one can't be the period on the piece.
Speaker 4: That's the tricky.
Speaker 3: Idea to put the pressure on.
Speaker 4: I know, but maybe, yeah, I could either try to
Speaker 4: erase the zoom on or yeah, well NBC doesn't own
Speaker 4: it anymore, right, and you know me, you Countess Luanne.
Speaker 4: We work for NBC.
Speaker 2: You got we're Comcast girl upset who's in charge of
Speaker 2: it now these days?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: I will say she was on one the other night.
Speaker 2: She is alive up there. Yeah, she goes for it.
Speaker 2: And it's so funny because you watch the early seasons
Speaker 2: and you're like, this woman's never going to become a
Speaker 2: cabaret star, and then you go to fifty four below
Speaker 2: and she was doing covers of Oh What a Night.
Speaker 4: How do I ask this delicately? Has she been working
Speaker 4: on her singing? Because everyone does? It's so Taylor Swift died.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say. There is a quality to her
Speaker 2: voice that I think limits what it can do.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: So it's a b Arthur, It's Carol Channing Channing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it exists where it exists, And so I think we're
Speaker 2: picking songs that just the keys are too steps down
Speaker 2: from what they even are for the men she covers. Yes,
Speaker 2: but I will say there's something sort of she really
Speaker 2: knows her range.
Speaker 4: She's matching pitches.
Speaker 1: And you're never going to see her like go for
Speaker 1: the money note.
Speaker 2: Right. In fact, one time she did go for the
Speaker 2: money note, and it was more like I'm joyfully making
Speaker 2: a big sound than it is. I'm hitting a.
Speaker 3: Note, which it's just about the selling and the delivery
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think her range being what it is,
Speaker 3: is the perfect extra dimension to her performance. And I
Speaker 3: think she knows that now, and I think she's like,
Speaker 3: let me just have fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not the best singer. And we're saying this
Speaker 3: with love lou.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of people who Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 4: if you know how to put your show together, yeah,
Speaker 4: and give people and also if people know what they're
Speaker 4: signing up for.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: When we were signing up for four Red sangree As, I.
Speaker 2: Found and I don't know, I don't know what it
Speaker 2: was about it that made me feel like, this is
Speaker 2: the drink tonight, sugar, I don't you.
Speaker 1: And this is also what got me really fine.
Speaker 2: I'd make like a quote unquote famous Sangria winters Angria
Speaker 2: for holidays. It's just so much booze and I literally
Speaker 2: was just like yay, And I realized no one likes
Speaker 2: it as much as me. But because I made it,
Speaker 2: I feel it must get consumed and then you're blacked
Speaker 2: out on Christmas and I don't. I don't even get
Speaker 2: drunk like this. It's only when I'm drinking red Sangria.
Speaker 3: And you before pre twenty one, if you didn't have
Speaker 3: a fake place that he gives a little italy, you
Speaker 3: would just.
Speaker 2: Order like a house kianti house Kianti.
Speaker 3: Well, no, you would order like a huge picture of sangria.
Speaker 3: It got you there, Well cottage, it's Chinese.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the Chinese?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there.
Speaker 3: Steph Shoe of everything ever, yeah, Steph Shoe would go
Speaker 3: there in college and get wasted at nineteen and.
Speaker 2: Drink red wine. What was that?
Speaker 3: It was worse than tubuc chuck. It was something worse
Speaker 3: than fermented.
Speaker 1: I had my birthday there.
Speaker 2: It was like a party of twenty five underage kids
Speaker 2: getting so much of this red so much. But wait.
Speaker 3: In terms of putting together a show though, just quickly
Speaker 3: was it like you and a me being like, what
Speaker 3: do we want to do? Do? We just want to sit down?
Speaker 1: Because you need to just do that. I mean we
Speaker 1: do it all the time, right, just sit down.
Speaker 4: We did a little test run of like Netflix as
Speaker 4: a joke. It's just mostly a Q and A and
Speaker 4: a couple of little like really undercooked bits and it
Speaker 4: was easy and fun. But we sort of thought like, oh,
Speaker 4: we should have a little bit of structure, and so
Speaker 4: we do. I feel like this is a really nice
Speaker 4: little structure. I don't know if I should give it away.
Speaker 4: We may keep touring, but like, yeah, it has sort
Speaker 4: of like four parts. There are wardrobe changes, there are
Speaker 4: one to four wigs. Yeah, depending on the night, there
Speaker 4: is a little bit of Emperor is a little bit
Speaker 4: of stand up and a special guest and a special
Speaker 4: guest and so. But if so, the structure we it
Speaker 4: felt reminded us of Golden Globe times because we always
Speaker 4: have we have such it's over thirty years. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: know each other, so we do really have a shorthand
Speaker 4: of like what if we go X, Y Z. Like
Speaker 4: there's no ego in it, there's like we and also
Speaker 4: we both been producing things for a long time. So
Speaker 4: I do feel proud. I feel like we're giving the
Speaker 4: white women that come to see us and other people too.
Speaker 1: But that's not a full life and.
Speaker 4: Beautiful all are welcome. I feel like we're giving people
Speaker 4: like what they want. But anyway, but also it's like
Speaker 4: hopefully a little bit surprising as it goes along. And
Speaker 4: but the answer was like it Basically, I was on set.
Speaker 4: We were finishing filming the Me and Girls movie in Middletown,
Speaker 4: New Jersey, and we had Amy and I had been
Speaker 4: working like once a week over Zoom being like talking
Speaker 4: about what the show could be whatever, and then we
Speaker 4: had from the day I finished, and it was a
Speaker 4: brutal It was a very tiring, fast shoot. It was
Speaker 4: like a lot of late nights and whatever. And so
Speaker 4: that was say I finished on like the Monday, and
Speaker 4: then like Saturday, we were like our test show was
Speaker 4: in Port Chester, so she came in. We had like
Speaker 4: three or four days. It was very much like the
Speaker 4: Golden Globes. We were like, Okay, we got this, we
Speaker 4: got this, and we just sort of finished figuring out
Speaker 4: the show and we've honed it some since. But it
Speaker 4: is sort of like you know when you writetuff and
Speaker 4: it's born quickly and it just comes right out. It's
Speaker 4: usually a good sign and the structure kind of.
Speaker 2: Just sucked right out. So when did you realize there
Speaker 2: was like music to you? And Amy? Like I wonder,
Speaker 2: like you guys have always been like friends, and I
Speaker 2: think I don't know how true this is, but like
Speaker 2: you were snl and like put her name in their ears,
Speaker 2: and then she came Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we started, you know, we were in We started
Speaker 4: together at improv Olympic. Ye, Shanna Halpern said to both
Speaker 4: of us, this guy, you don't like this girl, and
Speaker 4: we were the only two girls on a team. We
Speaker 4: go inside Vladimir.
Speaker 3: And which is a gay porn That's what.
Speaker 4: It was named, a gay porn VHS tape that was
Speaker 4: on display a JJ peppers on Clark and I remember
Speaker 4: we also were like we named it after that. And
Speaker 4: then we as a team, we're like, we should all
Speaker 4: watch it once as a group, and then we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: we watched it the first time, and then people drifted
Speaker 4: to other parts of the party except for like one
Speaker 4: or two of the straight guys that just hung in right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so we toured together and then she and we
Speaker 4: were both under studies for the main stage and she
Speaker 4: was one hundred percent the A team and I was
Speaker 4: the B team. Like I remember one time Kelly Leonards
Speaker 4: was like, you know, so and So is going dratch
Speaker 4: dract like Josh's going on vacation and Amy can't. She
Speaker 4: can do all of the nights except one, and I
Speaker 4: was like, so I get it, and he's like, no,
Speaker 4: you're gonna she's gonna do all the nights except one,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna go on one time. And I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 4: But and then she left to go to UCB show
Speaker 4: in New York. And then and then I did main
Speaker 4: stage literally only because she left or I would have
Speaker 4: been waiting another two years behind her. I was John
Speaker 4: Glazier's understudy, and he is such like a gender neutral
Speaker 4: in his comedy that I just like, yeah, you can
Speaker 4: just step right in because it's all just like wonderful weirdness.
Speaker 3: I both read for a John Glazier assistant part You
Speaker 3: Love John, he his wife listened to the podcast The
Speaker 3: Yeah the Best I see them on Fire.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm actually I didn't even mean to
Speaker 2: do this, but I.
Speaker 4: Fire Island.
Speaker 3: Sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 4: So then I ended up trying to get a writing
Speaker 4: job at SNL and Adam McKay hired me and I
Speaker 4: started and then yes, So at some point, I guess
Speaker 4: after the UCB TV show ended, I was like, but
Speaker 4: would you ever but would you ever come over here?
Speaker 4: Would you ever audition? And I feel like it was
Speaker 4: sort of broker that she was like basically like I
Speaker 4: am not doing three through the door, Like I'm not
Speaker 4: like I'm too established to come with my characters in
Speaker 4: my box of wigs. And so it was some kind
Speaker 4: of in between. It was more like a camera test, right,
Speaker 4: there was something where it was like, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to work too hard. Yeah forever the enneagram eight, the challenge?
Speaker 2: What is that one?
Speaker 3: The challenger?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: What are you do? You know?
Speaker 2: What? You know? You three? Three?
Speaker 3: What is three? Again?
Speaker 4: The achiever?
Speaker 2: Oh, now that I know, I'm going to become obsessed with.
Speaker 4: Amy's obsessed with it. Yea, you need to take the
Speaker 4: test tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, as Amy's eight is one through eight.
Speaker 4: It's one through nine.
Speaker 3: Nine.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I forget what nine is because I don't
Speaker 4: know a lot of nine.
Speaker 3: What's what's it called? Like your echo for what is
Speaker 3: it called?
Speaker 4: Wing?
Speaker 2: Wing? For four?
Speaker 3: I think I'm wing four and I forget what four is?
Speaker 2: But this is exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh this is going to take Do you do
Speaker 3: you ever dabble in your astrology?
Speaker 4: I know I'm a tourist. I don't believe so much
Speaker 4: an astrology because it's random. But why which is and
Speaker 4: again I'm not the enneagram suf. It's because I've been
Speaker 4: on tour with Amy for the last seventeen weekends. So
Speaker 4: we're talking about a lot. But I do put more
Speaker 4: stock in it because it's based on you answer a
Speaker 4: million questions. It's based on you and what you think
Speaker 4: and how you react. Correct, that's the word word qualitative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with the U and Amy thing like would
Speaker 2: you consider yourselves opposites?
Speaker 4: No, we're not. We're not opposites, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because it presents us that in the comedic duel, which
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I've been talking about this a lot
Speaker 2: being this, but like, yeah, it's funny how you present person.
Speaker 4: As our opposites, right, because it's more like I'm sort
Speaker 4: of tightly buttoned up and then she's more like little
Speaker 4: dark bag. But we're both actually pretty bossy. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I just to answer your question, like when did I
Speaker 4: realize that we're sort of more powerful together. I remember before,
Speaker 4: like Jimmy, I was doing an update with Jimmy and
Speaker 4: then he left and I was felt very abandoned because
Speaker 4: I was like we left, like he left and I
Speaker 4: did tests with other people and stuff, and then Lauren
Speaker 4: was doing that learning he was like, what do you think,
Speaker 4: like leaving it sort of up to me, And there
Speaker 4: was part of me that was like, oh god, I
Speaker 4: think I'm supposed to want to do this by myself, right,
Speaker 4: Like that's the power. But I was like, but I'm
Speaker 4: a sketch person. I'm not a stand up partner, right.
Speaker 4: And at the very like last minute, I remember I
Speaker 4: was coming back, this is too much information. It's coming
Speaker 4: back from a train trip from Washington, d C. Where
Speaker 4: I had weirdly and presiently taken a photograph for like
Speaker 4: a cover of I don't know with John McCain, like
Speaker 4: in two thousand and whatever, but way before two thousand
Speaker 4: and eight, and I had to make the decision on
Speaker 4: the amtrak ride back and I called Amy and I
Speaker 4: was like, would you do me the great honor of
Speaker 4: being my wife? And then it just worked from there
Speaker 4: and I think by the time the globes and the
Speaker 4: Hillary and Sarah all of it all, it just was like, oh, people.
Speaker 3: Do like us, tiktoo, that's the music to it that
Speaker 3: you're asking about.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I just because it feels like again,
Speaker 2: it feels like that thing that always was.
Speaker 1: But there had to be a time when it was
Speaker 1: decided like, oh yeah, this feels really good because and
Speaker 1: I think that's like it just feels like the synergistic
Speaker 1: thing that must have always been you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I mean it kind of asks been for a long
Speaker 4: like maybe the credit goes to Sharna.
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds like sounds like yeah, but like
Speaker 3: in terms of you guys building up the structure for
Speaker 3: the show for Russell's leg, like that is interesting to
Speaker 3: hear about because I feel like with Globes it was
Speaker 3: you guys looking at the established structure of like what
Speaker 3: an award show looks like and then being like, let's
Speaker 3: go out with mustaches and be like nominees for Dog
Speaker 3: President a movie called Dog like form breaking, Like I
Speaker 3: was like, I remember just watching I was with my
Speaker 3: friends watching that first year of the Globes just being like,
Speaker 3: oh my god.
Speaker 2: This this was also the joke structure they handed to
Speaker 2: you guys, which they don't do anymore. Which as a
Speaker 2: woman who dot dot dot dot.
Speaker 4: Dot dot dot dot dot doesn't.
Speaker 2: Like, I love that that that I wish they would
Speaker 2: do that because sometimes they would just like describe it
Speaker 2: in such a weird way and they're on the actor
Speaker 2: like and just like not a total idiot.
Speaker 4: A total idiot who looks terrible.
Speaker 3: End who looks terrible even now yeah Matt Rogers dog president.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean the things I think we knew from like
Speaker 4: I felt that we brought producer brain to the table
Speaker 4: were like front loaded, Yes, don't come out. And I've
Speaker 4: watched other wh SHOs since I've been like oh no, no, no,
Speaker 4: my darling. At the end of like the oscars don't
Speaker 4: come out at like ten fifty with a long ass bit.
Speaker 4: Everyone's tired. Everyone who's still in the room has lost Yeah,
Speaker 4: get out of there, you know, So like front loaded,
Speaker 4: don't go too long, right, work the room. And also
Speaker 4: literally just like say who you are, remind people who
Speaker 4: how they know you. Like just I feel like we
Speaker 4: had just training form SNL. I'm just like watching a
Speaker 4: million monologues.
Speaker 3: That's a larn thing of like okay, like most tis're
Speaker 3: gonna be the cold up in monologue like before update,
Speaker 3: Like that's like above the fold in terms of the
Speaker 3: newspaper speak. It's like it's common sense to us. But
Speaker 3: it's also like things that I guess like people don't
Speaker 3: think of all the time, And that's that's okay, But
Speaker 3: it's also like I feel like the biggest boon of
Speaker 3: working there is to like see a different version of
Speaker 3: let's just say, like fame every week and then to
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I can behaviorally adjust myself based on
Speaker 3: what I'm witnessing.
Speaker 4: You know, which of these paths seems like a good path?
Speaker 4: And yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Sounds weird to say so, speaking of like the famous
Speaker 3: of it all, I wonder like you've probably met everyone
Speaker 3: at this point, but then you're in the Golden Globes
Speaker 3: room and it's literally like, is there anyone who throws
Speaker 3: you off?
Speaker 4: That is a great question, I have to say, after
Speaker 4: so much time at SNL and also just being fifty three,
Speaker 4: where you're just like I don't care and you've seen,
Speaker 4: like you've seen so many waves of culture and you're like,
Speaker 4: guess who used to be a big deal and isn't anymore?
Speaker 4: Like whoever you are, it will pass, right, And also
Speaker 4: having had to go make crazy phone calls and have
Speaker 4: crazy meetings and be like like I've had to do
Speaker 4: things like can you call Mariah Carey and ask her
Speaker 4: for the rights to you know, this song? And like
Speaker 4: and once you've done, like, I don't know, if I
Speaker 4: can think of a person that that, I'd be like,
Speaker 4: You're such a big deal.
Speaker 2: Even Oprah has been your colleague I have met. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm one of the most iconic.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Mariah is huge because you got her with her for
Speaker 2: she loves me girls, She loves girls, whole song about it,
Speaker 2: one of her best songs. Yeah, to are so obsessed
Speaker 2: with me? Do you like the new? Do you like
Speaker 2: the new? Do you like it all the time?
Speaker 3: You like it?
Speaker 4: Renee is a real one, a real star, a real star,
Speaker 4: real star.
Speaker 1: She came on this podcast then it's like her voice
Speaker 1: in that movie. Were with Jimmy Do you know this?
Speaker 3: At the Jimmy Wars there Me, Joe, Kim Booster, Brandon Scott,
Speaker 3: Jon cruisings O, we were there and then Renee came
Speaker 3: out and then Laura Barnanty was hosting the whole thing
Speaker 3: and being like and just on stage or Barananci thing like,
Speaker 3: if I had the confidence of that girl, I would
Speaker 3: have no problems. And it was just you could tell
Speaker 3: from that night, Yeah, it was just And the kid that.
Speaker 2: Won was Andrew Bartel Jennifer Lawrence movie No Hard.
Speaker 4: Feelings, Yes, and and Evon Hansen right.
Speaker 2: For the gym.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Jimmy's with the future. Other thing that I
Speaker 4: loved about Renee on SNL was her live vocal was
Speaker 4: right up front in that.
Speaker 3: Mix, right up right in the zone.
Speaker 4: You could hear it was live.
Speaker 3: She was great vibes. And then and then the after
Speaker 3: party was like I don't do like big spaces, always
Speaker 3: like you're so cool, great Americans. I think it's time
Speaker 3: to move on.
Speaker 2: Shall we move to I don't think so honey. Okay,
Speaker 2: So this is the segment, Tina where we take one
Speaker 2: minute to rant and rave against something in culture. And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a little specific, and I apologize to
Speaker 2: you in advance. Oh no, but I think you need
Speaker 2: to make some changes. Oh god, I know.
Speaker 3: But don't be scared. Okay, okay, this is Matt Rogers.
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey about me. I guess as
Speaker 3: time starts, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think so honey.
Speaker 2: Boon Yang. No deodorant in your dressing room.
Speaker 3: Oh get out, because I think it's like a it's
Speaker 3: a staple, right.
Speaker 2: I don't need it and I don't need a babe.
Speaker 2: My thing is like I needed it, And remember that
Speaker 2: you have guessed and some of them are going to
Speaker 2: be in that hot, little stuffy.
Speaker 1: Dressing and dressing room stuffy.
Speaker 2: And I'm turning around and as I said before, no,
Speaker 2: not a deal reate in sight in my apartment, only acts,
Speaker 2: which I didn't find till this morning. I feel like, Bowen,
Speaker 2: we need to rethink and restock your dress room with
Speaker 2: the ESSENTI second, because there's a lot of fancy, good
Speaker 2: whiskey and no dealerance, no nothing that's going to actually
Speaker 2: get us to the end of the day, the end
Speaker 2: of the week, because it was smelling in there. And
Speaker 2: I apologize to you, but you had a lot of
Speaker 2: men in your in your dressing room last night and
Speaker 2: it's stank by the end of it. And I'm telling you, like,
Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe you didn't have your little essentials.
Speaker 2: You do have a lot of good Colonne I do
Speaker 2: than acts, I know, okay, But I'm just saying like,
Speaker 2: in terms of the sweat and the antiperson moriant, you
Speaker 2: could be doing better.
Speaker 3: I don't think. And that's one minute. I had Toms
Speaker 3: available for our friend day because he had an upset stomach. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have so many other This is the thing about
Speaker 3: working at SNL that I I'm never gonna get over.
Speaker 3: You could have had the worst week professionally, not the
Speaker 3: worst week, but just a rough week professor at the
Speaker 3: show's and then you still have to host your friends
Speaker 3: and make sure the ice and get drinks for them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is the thing that I don't love, Like.
Speaker 4: Your aunt and uncle are coming to take them to
Speaker 4: the party.
Speaker 3: And you're like, well, that's a light show for me.
Speaker 2: And I will say I did check myself when like
Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of years ago, like
Speaker 2: a few of us were in your dressing room just
Speaker 2: like having the time, and I think it was like
Speaker 2: a week where you're having a hard time. You came
Speaker 2: and we were just like, ah, what.
Speaker 3: Do you mean, just because like you don't want to
Speaker 3: be like whoa like, come on, get them up on
Speaker 3: our level.
Speaker 1: When it's like I am at work still, And then
Speaker 1: I do respect that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry they didn't have deodorant.
Speaker 4: I'll get I just felt that because I wathed you
Speaker 4: need to have a little basket like in a wedding
Speaker 4: reception ladies room like mints.
Speaker 2: I have brothers, past deals. I'm gonna get mints, and
Speaker 2: he does have brothers past deals. Does everyone know where
Speaker 2: you got then tampons? Yeah, Cynthiaio gave me this past
Speaker 2: Cynthia Rivo gave him the best singer in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's great. I also big big brothers past had well.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I will do my best too.
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding, Jess. I just didn't want to smell
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 2: And also I'm being a little like I'm erring on
Speaker 2: the side of caution. I don't think Swanny because I
Speaker 2: got absolutely dragged for the one I did last week,
Speaker 2: which was people should not be riding tailor swift so
Speaker 2: hard for the private jet usage.
Speaker 1: You don't want her to ride commercials.
Speaker 4: I saw that and you're like, what is she gonna
Speaker 4: fly adult adulta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just teasing everyone.
Speaker 2: And the girls absolutely dragged me because I'm harmful.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, I'm You're the real problem,
Speaker 4: the real problem.
Speaker 2: Apologize.
Speaker 3: I've got one, Okay, bow I might be biting the hand.
Speaker 2: Oh baby, we'll see this is Bowe yangs. I don't
Speaker 2: think Swanny as time starts now, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think so, honey. My co host doing ads for
Speaker 3: The Tiger's Apprentice, now streaming on Paramount Plus and naming
Speaker 3: off the cast list Henry Golden, Greta Lee, Sandra, Oh,
Speaker 3: Michelle Yo, but no mention of Bow and Yang of
Speaker 3: I normally don't mind, but I it's my own podcast.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm giving Paramount a platform. I saw Mean
Speaker 3: Girls in theaters four times. I went to go see
Speaker 3: Mean Girls the Musical twenty twenty four. I'm a supporter
Speaker 3: of Paramount of CBS, the Vicom. I've had many wonderful
Speaker 3: experiences to work with Viacom CBS, and I can't even
Speaker 3: get a damn mention in the ads and the promo
Speaker 3: material for this movie that I had a great time doing.
Speaker 3: I play Sydney the raft to the movie where the
Speaker 3: twelve animals of the Chinese Zodiac team up to fight
Speaker 3: an evil in San Francisco. Oh, Michelle, you plays the
Speaker 3: villain mean secentual coworker with our guest.
Speaker 2: I put Paramount, please put me in the damn.
Speaker 1: Credit and that's a minute.
Speaker 2: I personally like to apologize for not improvising in the
Speaker 2: ad that you were, but I don't think, but dead ass,
Speaker 2: you do not know that I was in that movie.
Speaker 2: No deadass, I do know that you're in the movie,
Speaker 2: but you know what it's like to do ads in
Speaker 2: This sort of a peak behind the curtain usually happens
Speaker 2: at the end of a podcast when you just want
Speaker 2: to leave. Yeah, until you're like coming soon into Paramount
Speaker 2: Plus it's gonna be everyone but bowen a right, see
Speaker 2: you later, everybody.
Speaker 3: I I want to say when I love I didn't
Speaker 3: go to the math for you. When I love that
Speaker 3: for you came out and we were doing answer, I
Speaker 3: love that for you. I made sure to really make
Speaker 3: your name an emphatic part of that. I just expected better.
Speaker 4: From you from expected better from you is really hard.
Speaker 2: Said that to you. If your best friend and coming
Speaker 2: to partner said I expected better from you on the air,
Speaker 2: that's rough.
Speaker 4: That's rough.
Speaker 1: No, I expect better for myself. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: And from now on I will always say your name.
Speaker 2: I'll sneak your name into projects you're not even in.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and then maybe just like and you have
Speaker 2: deoduring for me, let's have each other's back to more
Speaker 2: in the future. Because there is a magic here, and
Speaker 2: there's a music there's I've always known it. That's an
Speaker 2: equilic exchange the teen and amy of your generation.
Speaker 3: You know what, what don't don't?
Speaker 2: Shall we host the Globes?
Speaker 4: Are getting by the way, you should host the Globes together.
Speaker 3: That room is going to be like who the fuck
Speaker 3: are those to? Joe Cooy like who No, They're like
Speaker 3: who is that?
Speaker 4: It would be like it's duel Kimbooster because that keeps
Speaker 4: happening to you guys.
Speaker 2: And they'll be like and Zachary Quinto, No, but you really.
Speaker 4: Should do it because together are so much more fun.
Speaker 2: I would not only do it with someone with you,
Speaker 2: I'm throwing our name in there. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it, and Bomo was like, no, not
Speaker 2: the Globes And I was like, well, I think they're back.
Speaker 2: I think now we know they're back. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah they're back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, you ready for this?
Speaker 4: I think so okay. So I will say I was like,
Speaker 4: I was kind of sweating this because I you know,
Speaker 4: again fifty three, I have nothing but opinions, right of
Speaker 4: violent opinions about everything. But I'm also constantly afraid of
Speaker 4: getting in trouble.
Speaker 3: So do you an audition?
Speaker 4: Some No, I think I'm an okay area now, but
Speaker 4: also like, I do have backups if we do it,
Speaker 4: and you could you be like no, do a different one.
Speaker 1: If we're like no, you'll get crucified for that.
Speaker 4: I think I was thinking about my own fear of crucifixion,
Speaker 4: and it led me to my choice of topic. Okay,
Speaker 4: so and I may look at my phone, old.
Speaker 3: You have to have it. This is Tina fays I
Speaker 3: don't think so, Honey, time starts now.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey, Bow and Yang giving his
Speaker 4: real opinions about movies on this podcast. I regret to
Speaker 4: inform you that you are too famous. Now, sir, what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen? You have a problem with saltburn, shy, quiet, luxury,
Speaker 4: keep it to yourself, because what are you gonna do
Speaker 4: when Emerald Fennel calls you about her next project where
Speaker 4: you play Carrie Mulligan's co worker in the bridal section
Speaker 4: of Herod's and then Act three takes a sexually violent
Speaker 4: turn and you have to pretend to be surprised by
Speaker 4: that term. You have to have a clean paper trail.
Speaker 4: Nothing negative. Everything everyone does is amazing. Okay, you hang
Speaker 4: out with Ariana and SpongeBob, Now that is your life, okay,
Speaker 4: And Matt Rogers, I gonna tell you got about one
Speaker 4: year left and then you, yes, learn from my mistakes,
Speaker 4: learn from io podcasts or forever. Authenticity is dangerous and expensive.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey, an.
Speaker 2: All timer, And you know they're starting to come for us,
Speaker 2: the people that listen to this and like they don't
Speaker 2: say they're real opinions, and it's like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think that anyone needs that.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it gets hard, it gets harder, I know, I
Speaker 4: bet it does.
Speaker 3: And they're also digging through our stuff and being like, well,
Speaker 3: there's a period when they didn't like Taylor Swift, why
Speaker 3: they didn't like them?
Speaker 2: So to hear them be so sick a fantic now
Speaker 2: it was really crazy. They call us boot liquors. I'm like, you, guys,
Speaker 2: it's a walk doing.
Speaker 4: This and it's a dangerous dance and it's impossible.
Speaker 2: It's really crazy because the fact is we do have
Speaker 2: strong opinions about almost everything, and that's what people want.
Speaker 4: It's authentic.
Speaker 1: But also, what do I do when Emerald calls?
Speaker 4: What are you going to do? When?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I personally and I cannot expect this of everyone.
Speaker 3: If someone's not a fan of one thing that I've done,
Speaker 3: if someone was like I didn't love Fire Island, I'll
Speaker 3: be like, no problem, I'll still be in a getch
Speaker 3: with you. I'll still like take a meet, you know.
Speaker 2: Emerald, if I'll still take a meeting. Emerald Fanel had
Speaker 2: gotten on a podcast and absolutely destroyed Fire Island and
Speaker 2: said this is bad. I didn't get the performances, and
Speaker 2: Emerald Fanel said the words, I don't think Bowen Yang
Speaker 2: has ever pulled it off.
Speaker 1: You would feel crazy.
Speaker 3: I would feel crazy, but he'd be like, that's so.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, but she's entitled that, Emerald.
Speaker 4: That was I forgotten. My one note that I didn't
Speaker 4: get to as I was at the bottom, was going
Speaker 4: to be I don't listen. I don't expect you to
Speaker 4: stand with Dave Chappelle good night. I'm not a monster,
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy, but I do need you to hug
Speaker 4: Mark Cuban like he is your long lost honor like
Speaker 4: Jimmy did. And also why did Jimmy do that? Why
Speaker 4: was Jimmy hugging Mark Cuban like they won the super
Speaker 4: Bowl together?
Speaker 3: Jimmy was so happy, and Jimmy was so nice and
Speaker 3: he sent me milk Bark cookies.
Speaker 4: Well that's why Jimmy's the best, because he's capable of joy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, and we need that. And I was,
Speaker 3: by the way, people are like reading me for like
Speaker 3: in the bear Gip Talk Show sketch, like looking autitated
Speaker 3: in a word.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, I was like playing this.
Speaker 3: I was playing in this sketch and being like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's the guests are supposed to be like a little perplexed.
Speaker 3: I was like, you got eyes. But that was fantastic.
Speaker 2: Honestly, this is a genuine question, how would you do
Speaker 2: this podcast?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, how like, if you're us, how would you continue
Speaker 2: to do this podcast which started in twenty sixteen when
Speaker 2: we thought there's no way anyone will ever listen to
Speaker 2: it even once. Yeah, And we sort of established this
Speaker 2: thing of like, we see things, we talk about it,
Speaker 2: we're honest, we have our little fun with things in
Speaker 2: the pop culture. And then all of a sudden that
Speaker 2: does become hard because someone who might be a dear
Speaker 2: sister to you, right might be right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I do think you guys four You guys
Speaker 4: are thoughtful and gentle, and if you say you don't
Speaker 4: like something, it's not just like just to be jerks,
Speaker 4: but you know you don't. Obviously we're very thoughtful about
Speaker 4: those movies. But it does become a thing where it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: do you want to be people who keep it real
Speaker 4: and have their podcast forever or do you want to
Speaker 4: be goddamn movie stars?
Speaker 3: Are you god? The former? Then go?
Speaker 4: Then then I think then you're doing that. But like my,
Speaker 4: like my my trail of mistakes lives behind me, like
Speaker 4: then Jacob Marley's train, like just chains of shame, like
Speaker 4: from I'm like, I'll.
Speaker 2: Just use this real name from my high school, like
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 4: Hit this person like that wasn't even it just like
Speaker 4: I liked their name, like it's nothing to do with them, yes,
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, that's a level.
Speaker 1: Of sh they're now going impatient because of what you've done.
Speaker 4: I mean, and then like just and then like update
Speaker 4: jokes that you're like, I'll do it, I don't care,
Speaker 4: and then you're like oh right, and then yeah, like
Speaker 4: so many kinds of of these mistakes that you're like,
Speaker 4: what did I write?
Speaker 2: What? Especially the thing with the io thing it's like,
Speaker 2: so someone like j Lo is so famous and has
Speaker 2: been so famous for such a long time that literally
Speaker 2: everyone in the world has said something probably incredibly positive
Speaker 2: and negative about her, just because that's like a colloquialism almost,
Speaker 2: and so for her to get dragged so much for this,
Speaker 2: not only do I think it's like uncool, but I'm like, guys,
Speaker 2: this is not this is not a Pandora's box. We
Speaker 2: want to open and let's dig up everything everyone said
Speaker 2: on the name and it will be an apocalypse.
Speaker 4: Let's guess was like, why did I why did you
Speaker 4: say it? That was funny too, was great.
Speaker 3: They threw that line in after Friday, after that news broke.
Speaker 4: It was just.
Speaker 3: Fortuitous or the opposite in terms of like it's Io
Speaker 3: and j Lo being on the same bill for us,
Speaker 3: and now like that's the only reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but it's like even that is just like, guys,
Speaker 2: it's just I don't think anyone's gonna stand by every
Speaker 2: single thing they've ever said, and it is tough. And
Speaker 2: then when a lot of people do start listening, there
Speaker 2: is a weird rub and so like, honestly that I
Speaker 2: don't think so Honey comes out of really interesting time
Speaker 2: because a lot I catch it.
Speaker 1: All the time, and like I honestly also sometimes.
Speaker 2: I only ever think, don't take my opinion seriously. I'm
Speaker 2: like a dummy with a podcast, Like I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to have fun with this, but people do take it
Speaker 2: very seriously and that's not up to me. And also like, however,
Speaker 2: and I've never heard from I've literally never heard from
Speaker 2: like an artist or anyone that's done anything out there
Speaker 2: and said, what you said on your podcast really hurt me.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, if I were to hear that,
Speaker 2: I would definitely certainly feel bad, right, Like, I don't
Speaker 2: want anyone to feel anything but good for having listened
Speaker 2: to it. But it is a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good impartment.
Speaker 2: It's been so long since we've been imparted on Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: to be imparted in this way, we needed it. Well,
Speaker 2: this was just a joy and a half.
Speaker 4: I would a delight to talk to you to enjoy
Speaker 4: the podcast so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you for even saying that. And I just mean,
Speaker 2: like truly, like this was wish for filming, for us,
Speaker 2: to say the least, to even have you here and
Speaker 2: even know who the hell we are so this is pleasure.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we love you, We love you a lot.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, get tickets to the show?
Speaker 1: Is it all sold out?
Speaker 4: To the Beacon might be sold out? We have some
Speaker 4: We still have a show coming in like Seattle. Thank
Speaker 4: you for knowing that in Portland there might still be
Speaker 4: tickets because we have to go back to the city
Speaker 4: froze and we had to cancel the ship. Everyone who
Speaker 4: was mad on Twitter if you couldn't get to the
Speaker 4: show that still happened, you can, I think you can
Speaker 4: get tickets. Like we're not. We're doing the right thing.
Speaker 4: So everyone him down.
Speaker 2: Calm down, We're doing the right thing. Calm down, We're
Speaker 2: doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: And that's just generally applicable.
Speaker 4: And then let me see what I should I be
Speaker 4: a professional about. Oh yeah, girls five ever. Yeah, Meredith
Speaker 4: Gardino is an amazing show.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 4: All three seasons come to Netflix so you can see
Speaker 4: and yeah, you can see so many wonderful people. I believe.
Speaker 4: March fourteenth, I hope I'm right about that.
Speaker 2: March fourteenth. One of our dearest friends, Matt Whitaker.
Speaker 1: Oh I love yeah.
Speaker 4: I text with him sometimes.
Speaker 2: He's a big We saw Appropriate the other night on
Speaker 2: Broadways together. He's a great theater going for Yes, he
Speaker 2: is great. Yes he sees everything, he sees it all.
Speaker 4: And then me and Girls twenty twenty fourth, My mom and.
Speaker 2: Aunt sat the other night and their review was this.
Speaker 2: We loved it.
Speaker 1: You know it was different because it was a musical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Yeah.
Speaker 4: That was one of the ones that I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can't do this and I'll get I want to
Speaker 4: be like, I don't think so, honey, Little Broadway counts
Speaker 4: complaining about two lines of Revenge Party when I bring
Speaker 4: you Renee Rap, I bring you Quell Spyby. This is
Speaker 4: why we can't have.
Speaker 2: She show up to I was like she did.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's fucking that's her.
Speaker 4: Yeah. When the real the original movie came out, she wasn't.
Speaker 2: No, this is see and I wonder if that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Is like now we're gonna start watching it and it's
Speaker 2: gonna look like, in terms of fashion, like really dated,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be like, oh my god, no, it's
Speaker 2: becoming the clueless of it all, where you watch Clueless
Speaker 2: now and you're like, oh, can you imagine why wearing
Speaker 2: that it's gonna be like that.
Speaker 3: So no, no, but for me, like the fashions of
Speaker 3: those movies are like Frozen and Namber, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like said all back now.
Speaker 2: If you if you walk out the room looking like
Speaker 2: Sharon Dane, you'll get the coolest bitch at the part.
Speaker 3: It's not even the loop back around. It's just like
Speaker 3: that just kind of looks cool in the world of
Speaker 3: the movie. Anyway. Okay, we end every episode with the song.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: With Me. Who wouldn't want to follow in love with me?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you should be off Bush Readers five