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Speaker 1: I am an aunt of Savannah's Burlock. I'm posting from

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're familiar with Mark mcclish. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to run this accomplices statements through statement analysis and find

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Speaker 1: out where there's holes or where there's truth, and then

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Speaker 1: follow up scientifically. Well, there's another thing to John Limley,

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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Now see, you've got

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Speaker 1: one of the accomplices. Taylor claiming he was promised thirty

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Speaker 1: percent of the cash, but we know he never saw

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Speaker 1: any of it. The other side, the high school prom date,

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Speaker 1: defense is going to say he's just angry over some money.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's testifying against my client. He's the one

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Speaker 1: that did it. What do we know, John Linley, what

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Speaker 1: more can you tell me about what role Taylor actually

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Speaker 1: admits he played in Sarah Stern's murder. Well, a bit

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Speaker 1: of background on Preston Taylor. He was Liam mctasney's roommate

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Speaker 1: when Stern missing. He is expected to tell the jury

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Speaker 1: that mctasney called him on December second to tell him

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Speaker 1: that he had killed Stern and asked him to move

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Speaker 1: her body from her house. Taylor is also expected to

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Speaker 1: testify that he moved Stern's body outside to some bushes,

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Speaker 1: and then later returned with Liam to retrieve the corpse,

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Speaker 1: load it into Stearns's own car, and bring it to

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Speaker 1: the bridge where they dumped it into that Shark River

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Speaker 1: inlet and left her cart there to make it look

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Speaker 1: like she had committed suicide. Prosecutors also expected to play

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Speaker 1: a video secretly recorded by an acquaintance of Liam mctasney

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Speaker 1: in which he confesses to the crimes. Oh say that

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Speaker 1: again about a confession. Well, there is a video secretly

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Speaker 1: recorded by an acquaintance, maybe a friend, sort of a

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Speaker 1: distant friend of Liam's, in which he confesses to the crimes. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and what do we know what's on that tape? They

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Speaker 1: have not released any details of what's on that tape.

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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see in that courtroom as

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Speaker 1: if they do indeed play the video. Well, it's another

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Speaker 1: day of searching for the New Jersey team believed to

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Speaker 1: have been murdered and then dumped into a river. Two

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Speaker 1: lifelong friends of nineteen year old Sarah Stern our charge

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Speaker 1: in connection with her murder. Authority say Liam mccattency strangle

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Speaker 1: Stern at her Neptune City home while robbing her in December.

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Speaker 1: Preston Taylor allegedly helped dumped her body. The search for

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Speaker 1: her remains is focused on the Shark River. Inlet that

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Speaker 1: from our friends at ABC seven. The body still not recovered.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, John Limley, Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter,

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Speaker 1: we are talking about the murder of a beautiful young girl,

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Speaker 1: Sarah Stern, by two lifetime friends, one even her junior

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Speaker 1: prom date, Johnnely. What more do we know? Well, we're

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Speaker 1: very interested to hear from the defense in this case

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Speaker 1: because they're expected to focus on the fact that stearns

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Speaker 1: body was never found and this creates reasonable doubt that

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Speaker 1: she's even dead or that a murder occurred. A previous

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Speaker 1: attorney who represented the defendant, Liam mctasney, dismissed his confession

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Speaker 1: to that acquaintance on the secretly recorded video by saying

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Speaker 1: mctasney was always making up stories to impress people, including

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Speaker 1: that acquaintance, who is an amateur horror filmmaker. Defenditive Liam

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Speaker 1: mctaszie's motion to suppress his statement to AC on January

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Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty seventeen, being is hereby denied. It's further

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Speaker 1: ordered that defendant Liam mctasi's motion to supress the electronically

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Speaker 1: recorded phone called text messagers and snapped chats between himself

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Speaker 1: and from January every twenty six, twenty seventeen to January

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Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty seventeen being us here by denying. You

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Speaker 1: just heard what happened in court when the Judge Richard

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Speaker 1: English denied the defense motion to keep that tape confession

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Speaker 1: out of evidence so the jury would never hear from it. Wow,

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Speaker 1: legal maneuver is trying to keep the evidence out Judge

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Speaker 1: Richard W. English ruling that a tape confession that John

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Speaker 1: Linley's telling us about that Liam mctazney made to a

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Speaker 1: friend will be admissible during trial. He was also talking

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Speaker 1: about text messages JT. Tipton, Private investigator founder Sencopay so

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Speaker 1: Security and investigations in Texas. JT. What could the texts reveal?

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Speaker 1: We know they must must be very important because the

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Speaker 1: defense is trying to keep them out from the jury.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's very interesting question. There's no telling exactly

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Speaker 1: what is going to be said in those text messages, though,

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Speaker 1: I bet if we go back far enough, we'll be

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Speaker 1: able to find that there's some sort of a conflict,

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Speaker 1: and usually as a result of that conflict, that's where

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Speaker 1: we're going to find ourselves in this type of a situation.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks don't necessarily understand how text messages work,

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Speaker 1: so they have to be pulled from the device themselves,

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Speaker 1: which means that most likely a warrant was issued and

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Speaker 1: then they did an image of the phone and went

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Speaker 1: through through that image to come up with those text messages.

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Speaker 1: You know, to you, Karen start, I don't get it

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Speaker 1: why people, Why can't people stop themselves from texting? Because

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Speaker 1: you know, if the defense is finding tooth and nail

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Speaker 1: to keep these text messages out, they've got to be

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Speaker 1: critical to the case. Apparently the two guys couldn't help

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Speaker 1: but text each other about the murder and disposing of

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Speaker 1: Cyril's body. I think that they don't. They don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't understand that your

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Speaker 1: text can be retrieved and actually police have access to them.

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Speaker 1: It just depends on the situation. I also think, think

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Speaker 1: about this, Nancy, it's two guys. When you don't when

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Speaker 1: you have one person, that's something, but two, when you

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Speaker 1: have two, there's always somebody who will talk. It happens.

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Speaker 1: It's like hiring someone to kill someone for you. You

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Speaker 1: know that that eventually that person's going to speak up

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Speaker 1: and say something to someone. I want you to take

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Speaker 1: a listen to some of the testimony regarding the last

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Speaker 1: time this witness saw Sarah Stern alive. Sarah was a

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Speaker 1: special kid. Every time she came into the branch, she

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Speaker 1: would overhead, give me a Because I've been in my

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Speaker 1: branch for thirty four years, a lot of my customers

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Speaker 1: thinkers a long time so well. I have to developed

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Speaker 1: a lot of relationships with people over the years, and

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Speaker 1: Sarah was one of those people. You had a relationship. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I had a customer on my desk when Sarah was

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Speaker 1: leaving the bank, and she waited until she saw me.

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Speaker 1: As I said, every time she came in, she came over,

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Speaker 1: get me on it, sometimes give me a kiss. And

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Speaker 1: she waited till I saw her because I had a

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Speaker 1: customer in my desk. And how do you know that?

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Speaker 1: Because she stood in the door looking towards my desk.

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Speaker 1: This is another view cost all right, She's looking towards

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Speaker 1: my desk, and the person in that video you recognize

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Speaker 1: as Sarah play that's where she's waiting to go. We're

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Speaker 1: looking right now at video they're playing in court of

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Speaker 1: Sarah very happily walking out, and hear the bank manager

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Speaker 1: breakdown in tears describing that moment. He's been taking care

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Speaker 1: of Sarah at their bank for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: Her mom died when she was a little girl and

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Speaker 1: left her a little bit of money, and Stern had

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Speaker 1: just told her next to her neighbor and a lifelong friend,

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Speaker 1: Carly Draper, that she found about twenty thousand dollars in

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Speaker 1: a shoe box in a shoe box from her mom

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Speaker 1: who had passed away, and she was going to use

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Speaker 1: that money to move to an apartment in Canada with

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Speaker 1: defendant mactasney. And that's according to one of her best friends,

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Speaker 1: Carly Draper. Now Tiller, the co defendant, takes a stand

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Speaker 1: and he says that the whole plan to move to

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Speaker 1: Canada was just a trick that mctasni came up with

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Speaker 1: to trick Sarah to withdraw the money from the bank man.

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Speaker 1: This is a very very in dept murder plot. To

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Speaker 1: John Linley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Wow, and

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Speaker 1: this is his high school junior prom date, a lifelong

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Speaker 1: friend that was calling out his name as he murdered her.

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Speaker 1: What more do you know? It's been very interesting to

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Speaker 1: read and hear what Preston Taylor has said that the defendant,

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Speaker 1: Liam mctasney did to hatch the plan and to carry

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Speaker 1: it out, he told Taylor. Mctasney told Taylor that Sarah

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Speaker 1: Stern was in possession of quote, the type of money

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Speaker 1: someone would kill for, and his plan was to get

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Speaker 1: her drunk and then take the money. Taylor said, as

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Speaker 1: we've mentioned, he was promised a thirty percent cut of

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Speaker 1: the cash, but never saw any of it. Taylor claimed

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Speaker 1: that on one occasion mctasney tried to carry out the

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Speaker 1: plan and failed. He went to Stearns house with a

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Speaker 1: six pack of liquor drink Mike's Hard Lemonade to get

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Speaker 1: her drunk, then called Taylor by way of walkie talkie

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Speaker 1: to come over grab the cash, but their plan was

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Speaker 1: botched when mctasney learned that Stern put the money in

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Speaker 1: a safe deposit box at a bank. Mctasney offered the

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Speaker 1: idea that they all take a trip to Canada and

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Speaker 1: she take the money out for the trip, but he

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Speaker 1: eventually decided to strangle her, and on December second, mctasney

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Speaker 1: contacted Taylor by way of Snapchat, this time saying he

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Speaker 1: was at the bank with Stern and this was a

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Speaker 1: cue for them to execute their plan. Mctasney later came

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Speaker 1: to the home where he and Taylor lived together and

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Speaker 1: said he killed Stern again. This is all according to

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Speaker 1: Preston Taylor. You know, John Lemley, I've been searching and

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Speaker 1: searching and researching and researching, trying to determine how significant

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Speaker 1: this text messages are that were the source of a

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Speaker 1: big courtroom blow up. You just hit it. The bank

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Speaker 1: manager says, I believe her a kiss and said love you.

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Speaker 1: That had that kind of friendship. He had known the mom,

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Speaker 1: he knew the dad, He had known Sarah her whole life.

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Speaker 1: That reminds me of my little hometown and making Georgia

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Speaker 1: where everybody knows everybody. And she walked out. He broke

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Speaker 1: down crying on the stand, looking at video of her

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Speaker 1: walking out of the bank and catch this at that moment,

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Speaker 1: as Limley just reported, Prosecutors say, while Stern was in

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Speaker 1: the bank, Mac Tasny texts or snapchats tell her and says,

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Speaker 1: I'm at the bank. I'm going to do it now.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take her out. You know what. They

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Speaker 1: can both rot in hell. We wait as justice unfolds

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Speaker 1: in a court of law. Nancy Grace crime story, Signed North,

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Speaker 1: Goodbye Friend,