1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: The volume adultiple championship. That should always be the expectation. 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: All right, man, you go ahead, welcome back to the 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman Podcast. You know what time it is. It's 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: time to preview these championship games, both the NFC and AFC, 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, Mitchell, your Detroit Honolulu Blue Boys aren't in it. 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: But we have some really intriguing matchups. What do you 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: think about them? 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: You know what, bummer of a weekend, would love to 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: have my Detroit Lions in this NFC Championship game. But 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna run from it. I'm still gonna rock 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: their logo with pride. Next year is gonna be a 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: good year, Richard. I'm excited whether or not Detroit's in them. 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm excited. I want to start with the AFC because that, 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: to me is the matchup of the year. The Buffalo 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: Bills are going on the road against the Kansas City 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: Chiefs and it's Josh Allen's time to really slay that dragon, 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: if you will. With Patrick Mahomes. The Bills won already 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: this season while at home, thirty to twenty one against 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and did so and what appeared to be 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: pretty commanding fashion, Richard, how excited are you for this game? 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Like, where's your head at with it? I'm really excited 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: about it because it's gonna this is when it counts, 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, I understand. The regular season matchup was cool. 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills have won four straight in the regular 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: season against the Kansas City Chiefs, though the stickler the issue. 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: The problem to that is the postseason, when all the 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: chips are in and everything is for everything. They have 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: lost every single game. The Kansas City Chiefs are three 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: and zero versus the Buffalo Bills in the playoffs with 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Josh Allen at the quarterback position. And so that is 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the mountain they're gonna have to climb. That is the 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: heel they're gonna have to conquer. That is the dragon, 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: as you say, they are going to have to slay 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: No Darius, and I think they'll have a solid of 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: a shot as you could have. But when it comes 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: down to the Kansas City Chiefs is gonna come down 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: to the last possession. They have lived in last possession 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: games this season, they have won every single one of 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: them that they've played, and it's gonna be telling. You know, 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Vegas as Kansa see Chiefs has one and a half 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: point favorites. Usually when you're a true favorite, you're a 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: three point favorite at home. We've talked about that in 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: the past, and so Vegas is seeing something. The Buffalo 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Bills had thirty five takeaways this season, most in the NFL. 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: They had eight giveaways this season, least in the NFL. 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: They won the turnover battle in every single game that 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: they have played. That has to be some kind of record. 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember hearing about a team having such a 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: dominant ratio as this and not being a really championship team. 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: And that's something we used to talk about, and Pete 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Carroll used to talk about winning the turnover battle, win 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: the turnover battle, and a lot of times you'll win 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the game. But this is the seventh straight AFC Championship 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: appearance for the Kansas City Chiefs, and that matters. Pedigree matters, 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: understanding these moments, being in these moments before that matters 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: in these games. And I know we talked so much 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: about the referees and the rough in the passer calls 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: and all that, it's still a really good team, a 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: team that's been here before, that has championship metal, championship pedigree. 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: They have the foundational pieces. They have the pillars that 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: have been there before. We talked about Kansas City and 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: their problems that offensive line. At the tackle spot. They 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: put Tony on the outside. He's held as his own. 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: They've shuffled it as much as they can. Obviously, on 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: the right side, Jawan Taylor has had his issues with 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: the penalties and the alignment issues. Can they overcome that? 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: And on the defensive side, Chris Jones, I mean, he's 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: will be his what second game in four weeks, our 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: second game in six weeks, well rested. You know, he 70 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: had a little he was a little banged up, but 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: he's he's rested now and I'm sure he'll be impactful. 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: McDuffie's been here before. Justin Reid has two rings on 73 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: his hand. So Watson was part of their championship team 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: last year. You've got a lot of guys who've been here, 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: done this. Carl Loftis had three sacks last game against 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. These guys are showing up in big ways. 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: And when you're going against Spags, it will be Joe 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Brady versus spac What is it gonna look like? Are 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: you gonna let Josh Allen beat. You don't forget about 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: James Cook. He's been incredibly impactful. Khalil Shakir no drops 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs this season on thirteen reception, thirteen targets, 82 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: no drops. He's played a good game. Keon Coleman, you 83 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: got all these pieces that have been playing complimentary football, 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: but don't put it past this Buffalo Bill's defense and 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: the turnovers that they've been creating. That has been the difference. 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: You're not lying about that this Buffalo Bills team. It's 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: a wild stat. Thirty five takeaways and eight giveaways. I mean, shoot, 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions might have. Troy Lions had five last game, 89 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: so that the Bills have four straight playoff games, like 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: you said, with no turnovers. If it comes down to 91 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: it and Buffalo plays a clean game, do you think 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: I think they win it because let's look at it. 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no lack of experience, especially playoff experience 94 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: on this Kansas City chief roster. I mean, they can 95 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: win anyway, whether it's a shootout or a grind it 96 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: out game. But if the Bills play clean, if they 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over, they win this turnover battle. 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Again, do you think they win. I don't know. I 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: don't think it's that simple in this game, and it 100 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: rarely ever is. They won a turnover battle three to 101 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: zero versus the Baltimore Ravens, and the Baltimore Ravens were 102 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: one two point conversion drop away from tying the game 103 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: with a minute and a half left to go in 104 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: the game. So it's not always that simple as to say, hey, 105 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: they win a turnover, better if they win the game, 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: because who knows, maybe Josh Allen comes back after Baltimore 107 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: ties his up drive down the field, kicks a field goal. 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: They win the game anyway and it's easy, or they 109 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: go to ot and you never know what can happen. 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes isn't going down that easy. He had 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: two interceptions in the last game, got hit seven times. 112 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: They protect him better? Can he protect the ball better? If? 113 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: If Buffalo wins the turnover battle, obviously they're putting themselves 114 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: in a great position to be successful and win that game. 115 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: I don't expect them to turn it over very much. 116 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: They have it all year long, but that doesn't necessarily 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: guarantee anything. 118 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Well, the Kansas City Chiefs should be motivated. I mean 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: they got. When you think, hey, winning and winning and 120 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: winning two straight Super Bowls, seven straight AFC Championship appearances, 121 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: how motivated do you think they are, Richard, to get 122 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: this third championship under the belts, Because I want to 123 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: bring you back in time, because you and I have 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: had conversations about your experience in Seattle and about the 125 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: team that you guys had formed and what you believed 126 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: it could be the beginning of a dynasty. You win 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: the first one, or you get close the first year, 128 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: you win the second year, and then unfortunately, you choose 129 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: to throw the football inside the two yard line with 130 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: under thirty seconds left in the game and ultimately lose. 131 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: That would have been two in a row. And you 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: said the following year that you guys kind of fell 133 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: off the rails a bit. Everyone was there was more, 134 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 2: I don't want to say drama, but everyone started looking 135 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: around and thinking about the past. Like, how motivated you 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: think the Kansas City Chiefs are to keep this train 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: rolling and get third the third Super Bowl victory under 138 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: their belt. 139 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, it seems like they're really motivated because they're here, 140 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: They're in the AFC Championship. They went fifteen to two. 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, you look at that and you say, yeah, 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: they won a lot of nail biders. They won a 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of games in the last possession or missed field 144 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: gold or block the field gold, or you know, whatever 145 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: the case may be. But they did it, and I 146 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: think they deserve a lot of credit for that because 147 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to be motivated when you got 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: two rings on your finger, you're you know, cleaning the trophy. 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: That's just going back into the case. Mike, you got 150 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: the best team in football, your quarterbacks doing all these commercials. 151 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: You're tidy in. Everybody's fed, everybody's eating, everybody's having a 152 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: great time. You had a great offseason, and now your coaches, 153 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: for some reason, they're not getting poached, which is weird, 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you're not gonna Is 155 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 1: it all Andy Reid? I think that's what people believe. 156 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: They believe offensively, it's all Andy Reid. So Eric b 157 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Enemy didn't get a coaching job, you know, not a 158 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: head coaching job, had to go coordinate somewhere else. He's 159 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of gone to the wayside. Now they haven't Matt 160 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: Naggy coordinating for him. Now we saw how he didn't 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: in Chicago. It didn't go great, you know, so not 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: every offensive genius works out to be a great head coach. 163 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: But he's got two rings right now in Kansas City. 164 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: And then you got Spags, who's had opportunities to be 165 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: a head coach. Has been one of the best coordinators 166 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: in the National Football League defensively, hands down, over the 167 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: last few years. You would have thought he would get 168 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity, but it hasn't happened. So it's led to 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: more continuity for the Kansas City Chiefs, which is great. 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: Those coaches continue to innovate, continue to be at the 171 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: forefront of creating game plans and schemes that they give 172 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: opponents problems. And I think this will be another one. Obviously, 173 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has done as good of a job this 174 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: season has he done any season protecting the football. That's 175 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the reason they're in a position to 176 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: be successful. But I just think this is going to 177 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: be a hard out. It's never easy, especially when you 178 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: have to conquer the mountain that you haven't conquered before. 179 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: It's easier when you say, oh, we can put on 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: the tape of a playoff game we've beaten them. Now 181 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: you can put on the tape of four regular season games, 182 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: you've beaten them and you've had success, but in the 183 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: postseason home are away, you haven't found a way to 184 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: get it done. And I think again, if you get 185 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: to these situations, you get deep in these games and 186 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: things don't go the way they that Buffalo thought it 187 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: would go, that seed of doubt starts to creep in. 188 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: That seed of doubt like, oh my god, it's going 189 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: to be like last time. Oh my god, not again. 190 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: That that mindset kind of creeps in because it's in 191 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the back. You're here, these are human beings, so you 192 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: can you can say, oh, we know we can meet 193 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: these guys, we know, we know where we come in. 194 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: We expect to win. You do. These are pros, they're confident, 195 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: but you haven't done it in the playoffs. So that 196 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: seed of doubt is always in the back in your mind. 197 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: And the more Kansas City plays well they get a lead, 198 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: a touchdown, ten point lead, then that seed gets a 199 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: little bit of water on it metroll like see it 200 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: gets a little bit of water. It starts to Germany 201 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: because you start to believe, oh my god, not again, 202 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: not Kansas City again. And Kansas City usually plays their 203 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: best football when they have to have it, so we'll see. 204 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: So who's it gonna be? Rich? 205 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta make a pick right now. I need, 206 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: I need your prediction. Is it finally Josh Allen's time 207 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: to slay that dragon? Or do you think it's yet again? 208 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey and the crew. 209 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: I want to give it the Josh. I want to say, hey, 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the boys, they're gonna get it done. 211 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: James Cook playing his best football, Joe Brady dialing it 212 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: up like it's gonna work out exactly like they see 213 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: like they see it is. Josh Allen's gonna protect the ball, 214 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: the defense gonna play well enough, they're gonna get this win. 215 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: You can't do it, Mitchell, can't go against the Chimps. 216 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Something tells me, just don't go against them. Mitchell. I've 217 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: done it, and I played against them, literally going against 218 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: them then when it work out, we had him, had 219 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: him against the ropes, and it'll work out. So I'm 220 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: not gonna go against the mail. They proved me wrong 221 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: enough times now I'll go against them this time. Mitchell, 222 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: and they'll prove me wrong again and then Buffalo will win. 223 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Of course, but I gotta go with Kansas City. I 224 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: think Kansas City finds a way to get this done. 225 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: I think there are evenly matched teams. But Andy, Andy 226 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Reid and that pedigree and these guys just always find 227 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: a freaking way to win these games, especially at home. 228 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: They're a tough team to beat, Richard. 229 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: If Patrick Mahomes is able to keep this streak going 230 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: and the Kansas City Chiefs are able to get back 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl and ultimately win it, what does 232 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: this due to his legacy? I know the conversation's already started. 233 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Let's not mistake that. 234 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: You know. 235 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: Tom Brady is the goat right now, but Patrick Mahomes 236 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: is not too far behind. What does this do to 237 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: his legacy in that conversation for goat status? 238 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Well, Minchell, he's a baby goat right now. He's a 239 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: baby goat. And Tom Brady's the big old goat with 240 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the gray and his beard, and he's standing on top 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: of the hill and he can yet and eat and 242 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: eat the pastors and he can feel great. But this 243 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: kid is nipping Mitchell. He gets to another he gets 244 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: STETU to another super Bowl and finds a way to 245 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: win that Super Bowl, gets another Super Bowl MVP. It 246 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: starts to become a really really, really really interesting conversation 247 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: at this point in this career because his career is 248 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: an oh, and everybody talks about the first half of 249 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: Tom's career versus the second half. You know, there was 250 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: a there was quite a few years between his his 251 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: third super Bowl and the next super Bowl, et cetera, 252 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: et cetera. But this kid's already got his third super Bowl, 253 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: and if he gets his fourth this season, I mean, 254 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: it will depend on who saw him play. The people 255 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: who saw Tom play will say Tom, They'll say, this 256 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: game has become watered down. It's soft, they're flopping like 257 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: nobody can play defense in this and it's atmosphere you 258 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: don't barely you can barely can touch the kids, millennials, 259 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Whatever they're saying, gen Z. But 260 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the people who watch Patrick play, they're gonna say Patrick, 261 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: that's what That's what it's gonna be, Especially if he 262 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: wins this one, it's gonna be who you watched. And 263 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: I know people will have different differing opinions there are 264 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: people who think, uh, Montana's the best. You know, people 265 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: will watch Joe Montana think Joe Montana's the goat, and 266 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: they don't. They will not hear anything else. People that 267 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: watch Marino feel like Marino has an argument even though 268 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: he didn't win him a Bowl. But that's what I think. 269 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: I think people will think it's a whoever they. 270 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: Watched NFL playoffs. We're talking NFL playoffs. 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See sportsbook dot DraftKings dot com, 296 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: slash football terms for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms and 297 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: responsible gaming resources. Who would have thought the Washington Commanders, 298 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: led by the rookie Jaden Daniels, would be on the 299 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: brink of reaching the Super Bowl and they play Division 300 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles in Philly, and they split with them in 301 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: the in the regular season, albeit in Week sixteen. Let's 302 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: not forget the Eagles were without their starting quarterback Jalen 303 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Hurts for the ball of that game. Saquon Barkley has 304 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: been on an absolute tear all season long. It just 305 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: hasn't stopped. He's put teams away in games away late 306 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: in the fourth time and time and time again. But 307 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: they're facing one of the hottest hands in football right 308 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: now in Jade and Daniels. This matchup, while they've already 309 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: played twice this year, is gonna be unique one of them. Richard, 310 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: who do you like in this game? And let's start. 311 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: Let's start with Philly, Like, what kind of advantages do 312 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: you think they have playing at home in front of 313 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: this ruckus crowd in Philly? 314 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: What kind of advantages do they have? I mean, we 315 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: take that, take the crowd, take the home field, take 316 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: all that out of it. They have a ton of advantages. 317 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: They got the better Now that doesn't always mean anything, 318 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: but if you just look down the roster, they're the 319 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: better team. They got the better running back, they got 320 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: the better offensive line, they got the better receiving corps. 321 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: Their defense is played better. Then you say, hey, they're 322 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: at home. Now, do I think their coaching staff's better? No? No, 323 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my guy DQ the advantage every single 324 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: time and twice on Sundays. Do I think they have 325 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: the better Mike linebacker than the Hall of Famer the 326 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: All Pro? No, I don't. At the cornerback spot, very 327 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: interesting conversation, especially now that quin Jon Mitchell, you know 328 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: at the injury we don't know what his status is 329 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: for Sunday. Latimore's there for the Washington Commanders now, you know, 330 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll have him on all day, always open. 331 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Aj Brown from majority of the game, you got got 332 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: big play Sleigh who had a great game against the 333 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Rams last week. The safety position I think goes to 334 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: advantage to Philadelphia. You know, although I like Washington's safeties, 335 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: d line, Jalen Carter and the Boys. Again, I think 336 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: that goes to Philadelphia. But again, as I said earlier 337 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: that last game, and I know Philadelphia fans don't agree 338 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: with me, but I mean, what's new. When I watched 339 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles versus of Washington Commanders, Jalen Hurts got hurt. 340 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Earned in that game. He was one for four for 341 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: eleven yards or something like that, but got injured. Can 342 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: he Pickett played the rest of that game, Saquon did 343 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: what Saquon does, had one hundred and fifty yards, you know, 344 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: did his thing, ball control offense. They scored thirty three points. 345 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: But it was the other guy on the other side 346 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: that really had me looking very closely at the results 347 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: of this game, because you know what it told me, 348 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell and I said it, and I want to say 349 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: I want to say I said it at the time 350 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: in that in the podcast next day. Better be careful 351 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: because that that game gave them a weird belief because 352 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I understand Jalen Hurts got injured and their offense wasn't 353 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: the same, et cetera, et cetera, But can he Picktt 354 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: played okay, and you just ran the ball with saque 355 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: He ran the ball like he ran the ball the 356 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: previous game, you know, about the same yardage. He averaged 357 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: five point two. I think he averaged five point five 358 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: the game before when you played the Commanders. So it 359 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: wasn't that much crazier as Jayalen Hurts a good quarterback, yes, yes, 360 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: we're not arguing that, but he doesn't play defense. And CJ. 361 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson went out that game. That's a that's a 362 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: big piece of that that puzzle got you, but Quenyon 363 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: Mitchell potentially maybe out this game, big piece of the puzzle. 364 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: His QBR jade and Daniels QBR in that game, not 365 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: his quarterback rating. His QBR out of one hundred was 366 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: ninety six point two. They turned the ball over. Let 367 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: me let me confirm this, because I don't want to 368 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: lie to you. The Washington Commanders turned the ball over 369 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: five times in that game. They gave it to the 370 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: other team five times. They still scored thirty six points, 371 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: the most points the Philadelphia Eagles gave up all season 372 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: to a rookie quarterback, same weapons, same everything. His QBR 373 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: was ninety six point two out of one hundred. The 374 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: QBR puts a lot more into it than quarterback rating. 375 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: It puts a lot more into it. He threw two 376 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: interceptions and still was ninety six point two. I'm just saying. 377 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has it all figured out. I'm 378 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: not saying he played perfect. He through two interceptions, but 379 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to overcome five turnovers and win that game with a 380 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback going against a roster that's better than yours, 381 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: you could say Jalen Hurts was out all you want 382 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: and that's the truth. He was out. Is he gonna 383 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: stop them from scoring thirty six points? Like? What the 384 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: time of possession? People say, it's a time of possession 385 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: ball game, Mitchell. They said, that's why Jalen Hurts was 386 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: important in that game because it's time of possession and 387 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: they're a time of possession team. Can I tell you 388 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: what the time of possession was, Mitchell. Let's hear it. 389 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: The Eagles held the ball for thirty six minutes eighteen seconds. 390 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: The Commanders had the ball for twenty three minutes and 391 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: forty two seconds. So wait, the time of possession wasn't 392 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: wasn't the issue? That wasn't that much different. It was 393 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: skewed greatly to the eagles favor and they still lost 394 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: that game. Mitchell. And that's the part that gives me 395 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: angst when picking the Eagles in this game. Remember when 396 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, your team Detroit had five interceptions in the game. 397 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: Remember how good it felt to watch your team overcome that. 398 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: That showed championship pedigree. This is a divisional game where 399 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: all that could go wrong went wrong, found a way 400 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: to win with the rookie quarterback. That's a team that's 401 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: coming into this game, and I know that's what the 402 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: tape that dan Quinn is showing this team. Hey, this 403 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: isn't this isn't something we can't get done. This isn't 404 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: something we've never done before. This is something we could do. 405 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: And even though they hit the ball most of the game, 406 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: we turned the ball over five times. Our quarterback threw 407 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: for five touchdowns and we won that game. That's what 408 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Mitchell. 409 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: I got Washington, and you know what we have, Tate, 410 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: we got receipts here if you want to replay that 411 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: episode from week sixteen, because you're absolutely right. I mean 412 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 2: you called it and we were talking off air and 413 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: I was like, well, yeah, they were without Jalen Hurts. 414 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: You know, naturally the Commanders would win that game with 415 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, Yes he can coming in the game. But 416 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: you said to me, hey, hey, Mitchell, the you gotta 417 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: look deeper here. What concerned me was the defense. And 418 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: what I saw was Jaden Daniels overcoming a lot of 419 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 2: adversity of his own. I mean, this kid is a 420 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: flat out stud. And again, we got receipts. Also our 421 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: season intro, we said, if Jaden Daniels can come in here, 422 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: and be a stud. The Washington Commanders could make some 423 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: noise and getting into the playoffs. And here they are 424 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: the only team in the league right now to have 425 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: two playoff wins or to have a playoff win period 426 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: on the road, and they're going for number three on 427 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: the road here again. But it's not going to come 428 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: easy at all. This Philadelphia Eagle team, I feel like 429 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: they've been knocking on the door of a Super Bowl 430 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 2: for a long time. Last season, they were the reddest 431 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: of red hot teams till about the week eleven of 432 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: the regular season and then they started the taper off. 433 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: And this year they kind of regained that flame in 434 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: the addition of Sakwon Barkley. The blunder and the gift 435 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: from the division foe, the New York Giants to the 436 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles is what I think could really tip the 437 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: scales in Philly's favor. If Jadon Daniels is able to 438 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: go into Philly and come away with this win, how 439 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: historic would this moment be? Rookie quarterback entering the Super 440 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: Bowl with a team that was picking number two last year, 441 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: it would. 442 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Be historic, That would be history. But he's the sixth 443 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback to start a championship game. But he's the 444 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: first without a top three defense. That tells you something, Mitchell, 445 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, Like, do I believe Saquon 446 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles can beat the Washington Manors shortly? 447 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: I was there on Thursday night when they played the 448 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: first time, and they beat him. But I also remember 449 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: that game being closer than the scoreboard showed for a 450 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: lot of that game until Saquon Barkley broke that thing open. 451 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Mitchell. Until Saquon Barkley broke that 452 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: game open, and that's what he continues to do. Makes 453 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: him an MVP candidate, likely Offensive Player of the Year. 454 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: But they may give it to Lamar or Josh whoever 455 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: doesn't win MVP. I got you. But Barkley has been 456 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: the heartbeat. He's been the reason they've won a lot 457 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: of these close games. And when the game is in 458 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: doubt or it's close, or it's tied, and they're just hey, 459 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: they're they're spinning their wheels. Bang sa kwon Barkley sixty 460 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: five yard touchdown run Bank Now all of a sudden, 461 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: they're up. They're comfortable everybody's cheering, sigh of relief, and 462 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: it's happened. Nobody's been able to stop it yet. You 463 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: know the Rams again, they were in that game. It's 464 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: a doll fight, it's a battle. Bang bang bang sa 465 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: kuan bang. I'm I'm separating this game. Oh up. The 466 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: Rams feel like they got chance. You know, they're breathing 467 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: life into them. Damn, Saquan's ah slapping his helmet. You 468 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: are not stopping this man. If the Washington commanders and 469 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: they have not shown the capacity to do it yet 470 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: because they've played him twice and he's had one hundred 471 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: and fifty in both games. But one hundred and fifties, 472 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: it's okay, one hundred and fifty. Hold him there. If 473 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: you can hold him to one hundred and fifty, and 474 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: it sounds crazy, if you can keep him at one 475 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, you've shown them you can beat him. 476 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: In that game. They beat him after he had one 477 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and Jaydon Daniels played out of his mind. 478 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Maybe Jayden doesn't play out of his mind this game. 479 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Maybe the Philadelphia Eagles find some answers, find some game plans, 480 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: adjust some things. But again, these mobile quarterbacks are an 481 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: issue for defenses. It's not as simple as x'es and 482 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: oles and just draw off answers. It's going to be 483 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: down to the jimmies and Joe's and it sounds like 484 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Queen Ya. Mitchell believes he can play. He's been limited 485 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: in practice, but again, the Kobe Dean is out. What 486 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: is going to happen in this game isn't as black 487 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: and white as people want to see, as want to 488 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: say on paper. The better team Philadelphia Eagles at home veteran. 489 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: The guys have been in a Super Bowl, best offensive 490 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: line in football, one of the best defensive lines of football, 491 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: great receiving for best running back in football arguably. You know, 492 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: someone say Derek Hendrie. They debate that with somebody else, 493 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: But I just feel like this kid is something special 494 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and he's elevating, he's injecting belief. You know, do you 495 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: remember back in the day video games, it used to 496 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: be like the quarterback when he's hot, it like raises 497 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: the attributes of all your other players, And now eighty 498 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: five percent players are ninety five and this and that. 499 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: When a quarterback's hot, that's where he's at. Mitchell, he's 500 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: elevating He's increasing the overalls of the players around him, 501 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be enough for them to 502 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: win this game. And I know Philadelphia fans are upset 503 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: with me. Find the hole in my logic. That's all 504 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hey, look, I'm here to listen. You can say, oh, 505 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: you just hate on our team all the time. I'm 506 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: just looking at the game that happened and what happened 507 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: in the game. Now, Jalen Hurts is gonna play this 508 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: game cool. I got you. It's gonna be closer than 509 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: Eagles fans think. I know you guys want to say 510 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: this is the same old Commanders or Redskins team that 511 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: you're used to playing. It's not. Dan Quinn is a 512 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: motivator of men. He's the leader of men. Be careful 513 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: with this team. Do not be surprised if you if 514 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: you watch your team not play the way that you 515 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: used to them playing if they win. In congratulations to 516 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles, you know, I mean, Sirianni, He's done a 517 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: great job. But I'm excited to watch this game. I'll 518 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: say that. Well. 519 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: Back to your point on Jayden Daniels elevating those around him, 520 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: especially his receivers, case in point Deani Brown. I mean, 521 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: this guy hadn't been anywhere the first three years in 522 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: the league or whatever it's been that he's been there, 523 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: and now the last four weeks he's wide receiver two 524 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: in Washington and he looks darn good at it and 525 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: the other guy shot, and kudos to him because there's 526 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: so many wide receivers in this league that are, you know, 527 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: quote unquote divas, and Terry McLaurin is certainly not one 528 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: of them. I mean, this is the pros pro. He's 529 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: weathered the storm of dealing with the teams that have 530 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: finished in the top five of draft after draft after draft, 531 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: and if there's anyone in this league that deserves a 532 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: top flight quarterback to throw them the ball, it's probably 533 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, and he's taken full advantage of it this year. 534 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: The other big thing in this is they are division rivals, 535 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, and you 536 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: played in a very very historic division rival NFC championship game. 537 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: When you run the Seattle Seahawks with the infamous to 538 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: the New York or the San Francisco forty nine ers 539 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: fans tip play, I mean, how motivating was it for you. Obviously, 540 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: you're motivated to win an NFC championship, but how extra 541 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: motivated are you to make sure your division fow does 542 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: not win the win that game and go on to 543 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 544 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's definitely some added motivation, but there's 545 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: added familiarity. So you know, you may watch you know, 546 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: a team you gonna getst a non division team. Maybe 547 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: it's a blowout, maybe hey, they just overcome by too 548 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: much talent. But even when you have divisional rivals that 549 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: you don't even feel like evenly, match rarely isn't a 550 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: blowout because those teams just have too much pride going 551 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: for each other, unless one team is just totally inept. 552 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: But this is gonna be a game of teams that 553 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: aren't afraid of each other. They're not afraid. You know, 554 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles aren't afraid of d Jaydon Daniels. They know 555 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: what he has to offer. They have a experience with 556 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: this team, they have experienced with Terry McLaurin. But on 557 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: the flip side, the same is true with the Washington Commanders. 558 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: They don't have the fear of the Philadelphia Eagles are 559 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: going into Philadelphia and trying to win this ball game. 560 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: I think they believe they're gonna be able to win 561 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: this ball game. The last time they played them, they 562 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: did win, and it was in Washington and Philly. But 563 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: the time that they played in Philly, they felt like 564 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: they were in that ball game. A lot of it, 565 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, me ended up being a one score ball 566 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: game that Philadelphia Eagles ended up winning, and I think 567 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: it was by eight points or something like that. And 568 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a really good game and I'm 569 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I'll have my popcorn in hand, 570 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: i will have my feet kicked up, and I will 571 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: have my notebook in hand because I will be taking 572 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: notes because something tells me I'm gonna be right. 573 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, teams get eliminated for playoff contention, and this coaching 574 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: circuit has started to really take shape, and unfortunately, my 575 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are starting to get cannibalized. I mean, we 576 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: already lost Ben Johnson to the Cago Bears. Aaron Glenn 577 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: just took the New York Jets job. Congratulations to both 578 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: those guys. Terrell Williams just got the job with the Patriots. 579 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's you see three staff members get poached 580 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: within the matter of not even what four days since 581 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: the Lions exited. I want to start with Ben Johnson 582 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: going to the Bears because I'm here in Detroit. I 583 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: got to listen to the Detroit local sports media and 584 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: it's wild. I mean, how quickly a fan base turns 585 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: on a team after a fifteen to two season and losing, 586 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 2: And a lot of these you know folks that are 587 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: writing in on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram, whatever social 588 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: media platform you want to talk about, or you know, 589 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: calling into the local sports talk radio shows, are blasting 590 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson for not being prepared and not you know, 591 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: and taking interviews in the lead up to that Washington 592 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: Commander's game and then exiting and allegedly having his staff 593 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: already ready to go within two days of an exit. 594 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: They're viewing it as a mega distraction and wanted him 595 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: out of town if he was going to be distracted. Like, personally, 596 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: I don't buy that. Ben Johnson has given it is 597 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: all here in Detroit. He's rivesen this team in this 598 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: offense up from the Ashes. He's deserved a head coaching 599 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: job for the last couple of years. He was very patient. 600 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: He went he went for it in Detroit to next 601 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: year when he certainly didn't have to stay. He was 602 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: one of the hottest names in last year's coaching circuit, 603 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: so I give him props. I think Chicago is a 604 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: hell of a fit. But my question to you is, 605 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, how truly how much of a distraction do 606 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: you think it is? Like how turned off would you 607 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: be as a player seeing your oc H exit stage 608 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: left two days after you lose in devastating fashion to 609 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: the Washington com Batters. 610 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't think made me switch hats. Mitchell made me 611 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: switch hats because I don't know. I don't know about this. 612 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: Like my problem with this, and this is the loyalty 613 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: of sports that frustrates me because this is how quickly 614 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: the loyalty like waivers for certain fans, not all fans, 615 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, let's not generalize. But 616 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: if you think about last season and Detroit had won 617 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: their first playoff game in however many years, got to 618 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship unexpectedly, they were talking about building a 619 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: statue of Jared Goff. He wins the Super Bowl, gets paid? 620 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Does this thing? Fifteen wins season number one seed, Ben 621 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Johnson's coming back. There's so much love in the city. 622 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: There's so much greatness, so much happiness, and then disaster strikes. 623 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: They lose. Now you're saying he was unprepared, it seems. 624 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: Scored thirty one points. Now you're saying Jared Golf isn't 625 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: worth the contract he was getting, had a really good season, 626 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: didn't play great in this game. Sure give him criticism, 627 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: but to almost like totally flip on these guys is 628 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: the disappointing part for me. But that's the way losses 629 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: affect fans. In some way effects some fans, and that's 630 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: why you don't expect don't expect loyalty from players because 631 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: of how quickly people are to turn on you because 632 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: it didn't work out the way you wanted it to. Like, 633 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Ben Johnson wanted to lose that game. 634 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he was distracted. I don't think. I 635 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: don't think if he didn't do head coaching interviews that 636 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: the game would have went differently. And oh my god, 637 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: he would. They would have came up with such a 638 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: good game plan. They had a good game plan. They 639 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: scored thirty one points. Jared GoF threw three interceptions, one 640 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: of them was a pig six, like it's gonna be 641 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: tough to win that game. I don't know if it's 642 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: because he's because Ben Johnson wasn't prepared ar through those interceptions, 643 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: like he just had an off game. I mean when 644 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: he threw the five interceptions. You know, I don't think 645 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was interviewing that week and Jared through five, 646 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and they found a way 647 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: to win that game. They didn't find a way to 648 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: win this game. I don't think because Aaron Glenn was 649 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: interviewing that this defense played that they were decimated and 650 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: they had been playing above their means for a long time, 651 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: and unfortunately it caught up to him. They got it. 652 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: They went fifteen until two. It was still a good season. 653 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: They lost to a team that's hot. Right now, I'm 654 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: sure those teams that lost to Eli Manning and those 655 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: Giants you know, are feeling away too. They're sitting there like, 656 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: how did you lose to a team that's nine and seven? 657 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: But they beat an undefeated Patriots team like football is 658 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: one of the craziest sports. That's why it's the best 659 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: sport in the world, because any given day, anything can happen. 660 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: That's why we watched. That's why we love this sport. 661 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's people overcoming, it's underdogs, 662 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: it's good stories, it's storylines, it's to fight, it's the grit, 663 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: it's the grin. For you guys that think he hasn't 664 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: been building a staff for the next last two years, 665 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: he hasn't been having conversations for the last two years 666 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: of coaches. Hey, if I take a job, are you 667 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: coming with me? If I take a job? He didn't. 668 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: This didn't happen over the last week. Like that's silly 669 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: for you guys to think. That's silly for you to 670 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: to to really even consider. You think, all these guys 671 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: he's hiring, these conversations just happened two weeks ago. Like 672 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: that's silliness. These conversations have been happening the last two years. 673 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: If he would have taken a job last year, it 674 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: probably would have been the same staff. So again, like 675 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't a problem last year and it shouldn't be 676 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: a problem now. Like, don't be mad, because the guy 677 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: is prepared for his moment, Like be happy for him. 678 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: He gave you his all, he did we he tried, 679 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: and he's even stayed another year. To try to try 680 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: to do it again. I can understand frustration, Like is 681 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: it disappointing, No question about it, Detroit, I understand, and 682 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: this appointment fully disappointed. I can respect that, and you're 683 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: you're not wrong for that. The problem comes when you 684 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: don't appreciate when you sit there and say, hey, was 685 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: he was he? Was he doing a lesser job for 686 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: us looking towards the future, Like don't do that, don't speculate, 687 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: don't speculate it. Just take the loss and say we 688 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: weren't good enough this day. Don't start saying, oh, man, 689 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: our quarterback isn't the right guy? Like was he the 690 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: right guy for those fifteen wins? Like when did he 691 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: stop being the right guy when he threw the interceptions 692 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: this day? Like come on, like it has to be 693 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: more than this, Like there's only gonna be one team 694 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl this year, and so is 695 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: Are the other thirty one quarterbacks disappointing? Are they disappointments? 696 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: Are they just not the right guys for the job. 697 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: That's not true. You can't just turn on guys, you 698 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because it didn't go great this time. 699 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: And that's the same problem I have with some some 700 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: of the San Francisco fans. That's why I with a 701 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: lot of fans in general, Like there are lawyer fans 702 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: and they don't they don't stop being loyal to the 703 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: team and the logo. They just stop being loyal to 704 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: the players. They just stop being loyal to the players. Like, 705 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: let's get rid of him. I guarantee you could do worse. 706 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: You can do worse than Jared Golf. It won't be 707 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: as sweet without Jered Golf. But to that point, no, 708 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it was a distraction. 709 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't think Ben Johnson was in here like, oh 710 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: man calling guys up till one o'clock in the morning. 711 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: Hey are you would you be my offic scure here? 712 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: Would you be my DC? Like? Hey, would you be 713 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: my Like? These conversations happened during off seasons. They happened 714 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: during the season. They happened through agents. They happen all 715 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: the time. You think somebody's gonna take a job and 716 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: then be like, let me get on the phone and 717 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: see who's available. Like, no, people have to move their families. 718 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: They have to talk to their families, their wives, their husbands, 719 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: their kids. Getting the schools like they have to be 720 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: prepared when it happened, So give me a break. 721 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 2: You know what, the Detroit fan base is so used 722 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: to just lackluster management from the top down, from the 723 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: general managers to the coaches. We've never seen I can't 724 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 2: tell you. I think the last time they had an 725 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: OC hired to take a head coaching position, I believe 726 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: was Don Shula in nineteen sixty three. Success hasn't been 727 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: a thing for this Detroit Lion program, and frankly, I 728 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: think the Detroit Lion fan base has to come to 729 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: grips with the fact that just because you're good, and 730 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: just because you're damn good, really damn good, doesn't mean 731 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna win the Super Bowl. 732 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: Richard. You've been on so. 733 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: Many damn good football teams that should have won Super Bowls, 734 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: And if there's anyone that can state how hard it 735 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: is to actually win it once you get there, I 736 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 2: would have to believe it's you, because when that finally happens, 737 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 2: when Detroit finally gets over that hump, and I believe 738 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: they will, I think this championship window just started getting open. 739 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: I think it just started getting open, and that will 740 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: be a great day in Detroit's bit history Detroit and 741 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: this fan base should be more than flattered that both 742 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: OC's got taken away from him. It sucks, it hurts, 743 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 2: It's devastating, especially coming off this unexpected loss to the 744 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: Commanders on Saturday. But what they're building right now. If 745 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: there is any indication that what you're building right now 746 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: in Detroit is the right right way to build things, 747 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: it's the fact that these guys are getting approached by 748 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: other organizations, all of them and getting interviewed, and three 749 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: of them have already been taken away. Dan Campbell has solutions, 750 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: like you already said. Ben Johnson had these conversations in 751 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: the offseason. Dan Campbell didn't know if Ben Johnson was 752 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: coming back last year, So you know, darn well he's 753 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 2: got a plan B in in mind. Same thing with 754 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn. He was the Aaron Glenn's number one advocate 755 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 2: to get a head coaching job. If there's any better 756 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: form of you're the man to Dan Campbell, it's having 757 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: your OC and DC take head coaching jobs. So Dan 758 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 2: Campbell should feel like he did a hell of a job. 759 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: So I Aaron Glenn taking the Jets job. Do you 760 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: think that's the right fit former Jet What are your 761 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: thoughts him? 762 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy for him, you know, I'm happy for 763 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: anybody getting a head coaching opportunity that wants it, that 764 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: wants to pursue that. I'm sure that was a dream 765 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: of his, especially to do it somewhere that he played. 766 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm salty, you know what I mean. 767 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: I got a bad taste in my mouth just from 768 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: the way the Robert Solid situation went, the way Woody 769 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: Johnson handled it. They were two and three, going to 770 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: compete in Buffalo for the division. He fires him coming 771 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: off the London game, where I you know what I mean, 772 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, the quarterback didn't play a great game, nobody 773 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: really played great, and then you know, to see the 774 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: season kind of go to shambles for that team and 775 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: everything that that kind of happened after that. I just 776 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: hope that lessons have been learned by Woody Johnson and 777 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: he stays out of it, you know, stay out of it. 778 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: Let let it, let it play out, you know, let 779 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: the coach coach. You know, if injuries happened and things, 780 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: put the do everything you can with management and everything 781 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: to put the best you know, fifty three man roster together. 782 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: That's fine, but don't fire the head coach five games 783 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: into the season and then say, oh man, I'm doing 784 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: this for the culture. The man's been there, Let him 785 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: in build a culture, let him see his contract through 786 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: or firing, but don't fire in five games into the season. 787 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: And so I'm happy for Aaron Glenn and I think 788 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna do a great job. And they have a 789 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: talented team, and I hope that he he's able to 790 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 1: reach the players and the way that he was able 791 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: to reach them in Detroit and maximize their potential and 792 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: things like that. I just hope Woody Johnson stays out 793 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: of it. I just that part of it, wishing him 794 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: the best. 795 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 2: How big of a decline DC for Detroit next year? 796 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 2: If any losing the OC and DC, well, I mean 797 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough. It's just a tough division in general. 798 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I necessarily feel a decline 799 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: as much as you know what I mean. I just 800 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen in the division. You got 801 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: the the Vikings who are coming off a fourteen win season. 802 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: The Packers are battling consistently. The Bears just got your 803 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. And they already had a really talented team. 804 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: They got a good defense, they got players, so you know, 805 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: I can't call it. They they're still a really talented team. 806 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know. You know, fifteen and two is tough. 807 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough to replicate that season period, no 808 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: matter how good you are. So do I think they're 809 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna go fifteen and two or sixteen and one next year? 810 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I think they're still going to be 811 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: a good team, and I think it's still going to 812 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: be a championship contender in the NFC. 813 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: Another team in that NFC north of Minnesota, Vikings, they 814 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 2: just signed Kevin O'Connell to Omega mega multi year extension. 815 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: How bright do you think the future is in Minnesota? 816 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: The future is really bright and great job, and congratulations 817 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: to Kevin O'Connell and his staff and everything he's been 818 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: able to do with Sam Darnold and Kirk Cousins and 819 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe JJ McCarthy in the future. And I 820 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: think that's the bright light for some of these offensive 821 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: play callers, you know, and some of these owners. That's 822 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: the beacon of hope. Is the job that Kevin O'Connell 823 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: has done Minnesota and even to a small degree, the 824 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: job that Dave Canalis has done in Carolina. Because everybody 825 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: thinks they need a quarterback whisperer. Hey, they get a 826 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: quarterback whisper or play call it like Mike McDaniel when 827 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: he first got to Miami and what he was able 828 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: to do with to a tongue of Wailoa, it's like, 829 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, there it is. Look at that offense, 830 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: look at him like this team is just freaking skyrocketed 831 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: to the top. Now they've kind of come back down 832 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: to earth, have their own issues, but still to a 833 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 1: tongue of Vailoa, has progressed and has developed under Mike McDaniel. 834 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: I think this is great. I mean, I think this 835 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: is great for them, and I think it's it really 836 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: should be eye opening to other fans to appreciate what 837 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: you have. You know, Kevin O'Connell has done a great 838 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: job and they've they've won a lot of games, but 839 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: they haven't won anything in the playoffs. But that franchise 840 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: is still showing appreciation and trusting his head coach in 841 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: the direction that they're going there. There's teams whose head 842 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: coaches taking in the Super Bowls, NFC Championships, and there 843 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: are fans of that those teams are saying get rid 844 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: of like it's it's time, like we've reached our peak, 845 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: we've reached like we had a bad season, Like come on, guys, 846 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: you got to have a little bit more patience than that. 847 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of the issue in 848 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: this league. It's like if you don't win it every year, 849 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: or you're not in the Super Bowl every year, then 850 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: people want to fire good coaches. And so I'm good, 851 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: it's good to see they're not doing that. Well. 852 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 2: The big looming question in Minnesota is going to be 853 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 2: what they're gonna do at the quarterback position. Do you 854 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 2: think that Minnesota is going to roll into this season 855 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: with JJ McCarthy as their starter? 856 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: Well, I think it depends on what Sam Donald ask 857 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: for him in terms of a salary, how the deals structured. 858 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go into 859 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: the season without Sam Donald because that's a known commodity, 860 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: especially within this system. Within this offense, you know what 861 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna get. Do you have some problems on the 862 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: offensive line you need to fix this offseason. Surely, do 863 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: you think you have something great with JJ McCarthy. I 864 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I wasn't I didn't see the practices, 865 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: I didn't see how what he did. But if they 866 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: believe they got something special in him, and if his 867 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: demands are reasonable, I think given JJ time to heal 868 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: and to you know, mature and develop and see how 869 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: Probe prepares each and every game, you know, how he 870 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: goes through things, I'm sure he'll get his opportunity. But 871 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: to throw him in the fire after a fourteen and 872 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: three season, it's tough. It is a tough ask for 873 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: a rookie, but we'll see. 874 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: If it's not Minnesota, where do you think the best 875 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 2: landing spot is for Sam Darnold. 876 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: That's a great question. The way the draft order it 877 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: has has has come out, you know, because you would 878 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: have thought some of these teams, like the Raiders and 879 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: the Giants are going quarterback early. But they're not in 880 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: a position to necessarily get the best guy early. But 881 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: if they have a guy they fall in love with, 882 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: the sure but you know, I could see him being 883 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback at some of these places, the Giants 884 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: being one of them, you know, I really, you know, 885 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: depending on what they do with with Aaron Rodgers and 886 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: things like that. If they if Aaron Glenn has a 887 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of respect for him, somebody in his own division, 888 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: it would be a crazy, crazy, crazy story. But it's 889 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: am Dnald, you know, prodigal prodigal son returns home to 890 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, the place that threw him away 891 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: like a bag of still lays. I mean it, it 892 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: could happen. This is a national football They don't put 893 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: anything past anyone. But I could see that happening the 894 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders if they get somebody, you know, if 895 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: they if they don't feel like they can get the 896 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: guy they want to draft, and see them them taking 897 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: a shot at him. Yeah, those are the places I 898 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: could see him going and and and having a chance 899 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: to start, uh this season. Everywhere else is pretty much 900 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: I've counted for at the quarterback position. 901 00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I mean, Robert Salah thin, there's 902 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 2: any way he goes back to your friends San Francisco 903 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: forty nine ers and returns to glory over there. 904 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think that it's definitely a possibility if 905 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: he do. 906 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: You think, like honestly, though, here Richard because ever since 907 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 2: Sala left there was a little bit of a time 908 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: for Damico Ryans. Obviously he then moved on, and then 909 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 2: San Francisco has kind of been kicking through defensive coordinators 910 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 2: looking for that next guy. Like, is there any thought 911 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 2: process that goes through Kyle Shanahan's mind that says, I 912 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: don't know if I want to take Robert Salad back 913 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 2: because I know he's going to be immediately looking for 914 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 2: a head coaching position after this next season. 915 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 1: Mettell, sometimes you want that old thing back. You know, 916 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: you may not have heard that song, and I don't 917 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: want to go you know what I mean. I don't 918 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: want to go back through that with you right now, 919 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, It sounds like Kyle 920 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: saying I want that old thing back, and that's sometimes 921 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: that old thing is what you know, and what you 922 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: know is what go And a guy that he knows 923 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: he can work with, been in championship games, super Bowls, 924 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: They've built the great roster. You know, it's gonna be 925 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: that wide nine technique. Not a lot of coaches coach 926 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm sure Nick Bosa will be happy 927 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: to go back to a nine and be able to 928 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: rush from that. This isn't the only you know, old flame. 929 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: I expect to be to be, you know, investigated by 930 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. I expect him to 931 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: call the Indianapolis Colts and see see if the Forest Buckner, 932 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, would potentially like to return. 933 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: I think they kind of try to go back to 934 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,959 Speaker 1: the way they know they can win football games, having 935 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: a ferocious front, rushing the passer, having a very efficient offense, 936 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's the direction they want to go. 937 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: I think they know the pass rush helps the secondary. 938 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: The secondary helps the pass rush, but if you got 939 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: some killers up front, you win a lot of football games. 940 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: While we're talking about the San Francisco forty nine ers 941 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 2: here a little bit, we got to talk about Brock Perdy. 942 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: That is going to be the big question mark of 943 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 2: the off season for the forty nine ers is how 944 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: do they handle his contract extension situation. Do you foresee 945 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: brock prety resetting the quarterback market. 946 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: I think Brock perty gets fifty five million dollars a 947 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: year now. I know some fans will be like, oh 948 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: my god, that's so prohibitive. That's gonna be killing the 949 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: team that's gonna do this. It's all about structure, and 950 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have done a good job of 951 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: structuring it. I'm sure they'll do a great job, especially 952 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: of the quarterback, of structuring his deal, whether it's you know, 953 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: per per year bonuses or whether it's stretched his signing 954 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: bonus will be stretched over years. They'll have voidable years 955 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: at the end. If you look at Joe Burrow's contract, 956 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: for example, it's the voidable years at the end. It's 957 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: the way they stretch the contract that makes it a 958 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: lot more feasible because you want the quarterback to stay 959 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: within seventeen to twenty percent of the salary. And I 960 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: know you're like, oh my god, fifty five million isn't 961 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: seventeen percent of the salary cap, but it's it's how 962 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 1: it hits every year. What is the cap number gonna 963 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: be every year? And if you keep that cap number 964 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,240 Speaker 1: in the forty six to forty seven forty eight percent range, 965 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: you're perfect. And I think the San Francisco forty nine 966 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: ers can do that and still manage to have a 967 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: good roster and still manage to pay the rest of 968 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: the guys. Sure, they'll have to make some sacrifices with 969 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 1: you know, some veteran guys. I think they already talked 970 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: about moving on from Javon Hargrave and guys like that. 971 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: Tarvarius Wards likely won't be back his family. His wife 972 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: said she can't deal with the trauma of being in California. 973 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: So that's unfortunately gonna be a loss for the San 974 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. But I think they're gonna do it. 975 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: I think fifty five million dollars is where they're gonna be. 976 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 1: Could they push it up to you know, fifty six 977 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: fifty seven? Sure? Do I think he resets the market 978 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 1: with sixty one million dollars? I doubt it. But even 979 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: if he did, it'd be structured in a way that 980 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: it would not it would not cripple or handicapped San 981 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. 982 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's going to be the most important part, because, 983 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 2: like we talked about, there's still in this championship window. 984 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: But having to pay Rock Purty fifty five million dollars 985 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 2: versus whatever he was making this year one million bucks 986 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 2: is a whole different ballgames. So John Lynch is gonna 987 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 2: be on I'm sure, up late at night for several nights, 988 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: trying to make this all work out, so we shall 989 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 2: see what the forty nine ers. Richard, we got a 990 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 2: new fan of the program, Tom Brady. He's out there 991 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 2: liking the Richard Sherman podcast posts and he specifically specifically 992 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: liked your take on the Patrick Mahomes hit against the 993 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 2: Houston Texas when the Houston Texans were flagged for unnecessary roughness. 994 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 2: Tom Brady had this to say. The reality for me 995 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 2: is that offensive players need to protect themselves. When quarterbacks 996 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 2: become running backs and they're out of the pocket, they 997 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 2: should lose their protection. If you don't want to get hit, 998 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 2: you go down, you can run out of bounds. Richard, 999 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: we got a new fan. What are your thoughts on 1000 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 2: the comments from Tom Brady? 1001 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Tom. We sure do appreciate you here 1002 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: at the showming podcast again, whether you listen for a 1003 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: minute and an hour a second, we sure to appreciate you, brother. 1004 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: And he's right, and he's right. You got like they 1005 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: put too much on the defense. Like it's hard enough 1006 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: to play the game. If I didn't have to keep 1007 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: offensive players safe, if I didn't have to try to 1008 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: cover while guys are pushing and shoving and doing if 1009 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: I just knew where the guys were going, Like, I'm 1010 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 1: reactionary to everything, so I don't know where they're going. 1011 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm guessing they know where they're going. I'm I'm trying 1012 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: not to get penalized because as a defender, as especially 1013 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: as a corner, there's ten flags against me off the bat, Like, 1014 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: there's ten ways for me to get penalized. Every play 1015 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: for the offensive guy might be a couple. You might 1016 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: get an unnecessary roughness, an offensive PI holding, you know, 1017 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: potentially a chop block something like that. For defense, you 1018 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: can't hit them high, you can't hit the quarterback, you 1019 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 1: can't grab them by the back of their jersey horse Colin, 1020 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: And it's the it's the the re slow mow refereeing 1021 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: that's happening now. It's like, oh my god, did you 1022 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 1: see him when he pushed off the way tredavi Is 1023 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: White last week got run over by Kean Coleman and 1024 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: people are yelling, oh my god, clearly passed interference. He 1025 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: was in his way. It's not his job to get 1026 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: out of his way. It's his job to defend him. 1027 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: And if they're both hand fighting and Keank Coleman shoves 1028 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: him to the ground, like it's a very frustrating place 1029 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: to be. So to Tom's point, yes, I agree, like 1030 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: it has some onus has to be on the offensive player, 1031 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: like now you're you're using the rules against us because 1032 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 1: you're using the rules that put doubt in the heads 1033 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: of the defenders as your advantage has like a shield 1034 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: around you on the field. And now you're running and 1035 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, oh my god, am I gonna slide? 1036 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: Am I gonna not slide? Like you don't know. Now 1037 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: I can't play fast, and I'm playing a really fast 1038 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: and violent side of the ball, Like this isn't a 1039 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: finesse de, this isn't a finesse side of the football. Like, 1040 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: all I'm trying to do is take the ball from you, 1041 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: like my job, my only ambition is to take that 1042 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: ball and give it back to my offense. And so 1043 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: you have the ball and you're sitting here running slow 1044 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here like, hey, go down, so I 1045 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: don't have to hit you. But if you're not going down, 1046 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to punish you. And people are like, oh 1047 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: my god, there's spearing there. Yes, we're hitting hard as 1048 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: shit out there. We're trying to destroy. We're trying to 1049 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: hit these people and dislodge the ball. Like Tom was saying, 1050 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: it's a violent game. If you don't understand that fundamentally 1051 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: watching football, then don't watch it. Don't watch this game. 1052 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: Like if you're saying, don't be so violent out there, 1053 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: they're hitting too hard, and don't watch this game. That's 1054 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: literally the foundation on what this game was built on. 1055 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: That's what made this game great. Now, is there a 1056 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: health and safety to it where it's you know, CTE 1057 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: and concussions have become an issue and become something to 1058 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: focus and the longevity of our players in the future, 1059 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: no question, does not make it less violent. If we 1060 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,919 Speaker 1: talk that be like telling boxers, hey, don't hit each 1061 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,720 Speaker 1: other in the face, then then why have the sport, 1062 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: Like like you know what I mean, At some point 1063 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: you have to there is an inherent risk in the sport. 1064 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to officiate that out 1065 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: of it. And that's what they're trying to do. And 1066 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: it's and it's the slow modes, it's the calling players dirty, 1067 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: it's the nonsense like that that is really ruining the game. 1068 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: And it's gonna ruin it for a lot of people. 1069 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: But people are like, people are gonna stop playing this game. 1070 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: They're not the people that play this game. They come 1071 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: from the slums a lot of times, the majority of 1072 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,399 Speaker 1: the times, they come from really rough circumstances. They don't 1073 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: come from affluents. So it's the people from affluence are 1074 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: sitting there saying, man, this is ruining their lives, this 1075 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: is ruining the game. They're getting too violent. I'm not 1076 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: gonna let my kid play. Where I'm from, ain't nobody 1077 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: not letting it you play football, So you're just giving 1078 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 1: more opportunities to kids that will deserve it than I guess. 1079 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: But like, at some point you're going to either ruin 1080 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: the game or are you going to stop over officiating 1081 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 1: and let them play? And I hope they let them 1082 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: play at the end of the day. What's the solution 1083 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: to this? 1084 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're on the NFLPA, you know, if 1085 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 2: you're on the Competition Committee, player Safety Committee, whatever it 1086 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: may be. 1087 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a difference. 1088 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 2: Between that as as hez l Schaier hit on Trevor 1089 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 2: Lawrence and the hit we saw the Houston Texans make 1090 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 2: on Patrick Mahomes is with the onus is on the quarterback. 1091 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 2: Should there be conversation about telling the quarterback, Hey, your 1092 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: slides have to be open and obvious. They have to 1093 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: be a yard further back than when you were originally 1094 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 2: starting your slides, because we can't put the fenders in 1095 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 2: this situation where they have to guess whether you're going 1096 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 2: to slide or not. Especially with mutile quarterbacks, especially with 1097 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 2: guys like Patrick Mahomes that are able to get out 1098 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 2: of the pocket and fake going out of bounds run 1099 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: for another fifteen yards up the sideline, there has to 1100 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 2: be a conversation about this exact set of circumstances because 1101 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 2: these penalties, especially when you're the Houston Texans, you're already 1102 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 2: the underdog in that game. You're already going on the 1103 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 2: road to Kansas City. Every yard matters in that game. 1104 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 2: When you get flagged for fifteen yards in an automatic 1105 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: first down, that is an absolute backbreaking penalty. What is 1106 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: the ultimate solution to this problem? 1107 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: Rich It's probably that it's probably something alone that but 1108 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: they will never That's the problem with the Competition Committee. 1109 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: And I have set as an NFLPA member in those 1110 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: meetings so people are like, man, they need to have 1111 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: somebody like you and those meetings I've said in them, 1112 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: they don't listen to us. They don't listen to guys 1113 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: who played the game and tell them, Hey, you know 1114 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: how you say, see what you hit, Guess where your 1115 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: eyes are. They're on your head, guess where your head 1116 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: is hitting where your eyes look. And you just told 1117 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: them to see what they're hitting. Now they're hitting what 1118 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: they see, and you're telling them to take their head 1119 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: out of it. You see how that's an issue. No, 1120 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: you don't see it. You don't get it. Oh, okay, 1121 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: So you don't want them to see what they hit. 1122 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: You want them to turn their head away and shoulder 1123 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: what they hit. Okay, So now you don't want them 1124 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: to see it because if they see it, they're gonna 1125 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: hit it and they're gonna use their head to hit it. Okay, 1126 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: I got it. I got it. You don't get it 1127 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: because you're saying things that don't physically like makes sense, 1128 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: Like there are certain things that have to happen for 1129 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: you to be able to make these hits. And the 1130 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: same is true when it comes to this. They always 1131 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: feel like the owners should be on the defender, The 1132 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: defender should be able to add full speed see, hey, 1133 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna dunk his head five degrees are five 1134 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: inches lower, and I'm gonna aim for that. But then 1135 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: you hit a guy in his knees and take him out, 1136 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: and now they're calling Kirby Joseph dirty. And now Kirby 1137 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: Joseph is dirty because you said, hey, don't hit the 1138 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: guy high, and don't hit him too low, hit him 1139 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: right in his mid section. But every time you aim 1140 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: for his mid section, he drops his head and I 1141 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: get a penalty and I lose fifteen thousand dollars. So 1142 00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: the one place I can hit him in his leg 1143 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I know are gonna be there. And now you're saying, hey, 1144 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,439 Speaker 1: don't hit him in his legs because now you look dirty, 1145 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: and I'm calling you a dirty player, and so there 1146 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: is really no winning for that. It's happening too fast 1147 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,919 Speaker 1: for me to aim and change my trajectory and see 1148 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: where I'm hitting. So if you're telling me full speed, 1149 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: see what you're hitting, get your head out of there 1150 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: at the last second and still strike the person in 1151 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: the spot that I thought was gonna be there, You 1152 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: see how impossible that is. When it starts to be 1153 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: logical and they won't see it that way. So I 1154 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: agree with Tom. The onus needs to be on an 1155 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: offensive player because the game is you have time and distance. 1156 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have time and distance to change 1157 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: and do all this. You're watching and you can say 1158 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: I could get a few more yards here, or I 1159 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,919 Speaker 1: could step out of bounds right here. Patrick Mahomes could 1160 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: have decided to step out of bounds two seconds ago. Instead, 1161 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: he returns to the field of play, and then now 1162 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: there's an unnecessary a penalty, a penalty that would not 1163 01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: have happened if he just stepped out. And that's the 1164 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: frustrating part for defenders because we're just playing fast and 1165 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: all the things that we're asked being asked to do 1166 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: within this game aren't always feasible. 1167 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 2: Shout out once more to Tom Brady, the new fan 1168 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: of the program, and we appreciate all you guys. I 1169 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: will let you wrap things up, Rich please sign us off. 1170 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys for joining us again for another 1171 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Championship preview. We appreciate you. We know you could be 1172 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world and join your family and your 1173 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: friends hanging out, but you're here with us and we 1174 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 1: sure do appreciate it. Thank you. For joining us. We'll 1175 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 1: see you Sunday night after these games. Can't wait the 1176 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: volume