1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: M The Control group contains scenes of realistic violence and 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: graphic sexuality. It is intended for mature listeners. In the 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: field of psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: time of innovation and discovery, a time when mental health 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: institutions struggled to redefine themselves, to become something more than 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: repositories of the sick. Unorthodox methods and aggressive therapies were 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: not only permitted, but encouraged. Secret This is a record 8 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: of that time. This is the Control group. Hello, Hello, Hey, 9 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: in summer home, just touching base, making sure got the 10 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: equipment you requisitioned. Yes, thank you. We're functionated on right now. Well, 11 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: let's stay in touch. I'll be near New Cane in 12 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the first of the year, hoping you might have something 13 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: to show me. No, I will, I've been too delicate. 14 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: I see that. Now. I'm taking a more aggressive approach 15 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: to some of the cases, one in particular, a lapmouse. 16 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: You sound hungry, appetite. It has never been stronger. Are 17 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: we talking about the forensic the prostitute? You mean Karen, 18 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: the keeper of secrets. She's a bit more resistant to 19 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: my therapies. But I'm breaking through. I'm tired of waiting. 20 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: I've increased the e c T schedule, aggressive sleep and 21 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: psychic driving schedules NonStop for almost twelve weeks. Safe. It's 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: no good cracking open the head if in the process 23 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: you damage the content. No, no, no, no, that's fine. 24 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I got an interview schedule for this afternoon. What's the hurry. 25 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: I've got an objective now, she revealed to me, or 26 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: I swaite at her to reveal that there was an 27 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 1: accomplice with her at the Dixie Motel. That's a fact. 28 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: What's the person's name? I don't know. She won't budge 29 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: on the details. Get us a name. Start with that. 30 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: It'll be a good measure of your progress. But if 31 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: you hold that a little longer, do the detective work. 32 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Connect the dots. I'll try, but I can help wondering 33 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: whether or not we should be I'll stop thinking about 34 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: should should He's a dirty word in research. Take yourself 35 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: off the leash, doctors. Allow yourself to run. You have 36 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: a hunch, follow it, got an inch, scratch it and urge. 37 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Indulge it, and don't stop to ask whether it's something 38 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: you should be doing. If it gives you a better 39 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: understanding that's all that matters. You're thinking about something. Am 40 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I right? You're not wrong, and I don't want to 41 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: know what that is. I just know that, based on 42 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: what we've seen of your work so far, you need 43 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: to follow whatever it is wherever it leads. For reasons 44 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: you can't explain. You feel like it might unlock something. 45 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Don't try to explain, don't justify it. Do it, learn 46 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: from it. I'm hearing you, Summer Hill. It's just taking 47 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: me a moment to digest all this. Use medicine to 48 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: solve a crime, a murder. Think of it. It's the 49 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: greatest advancement in crime detections and sodium pentathol or fingerprints. 50 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: You get an unwilling subject to cooperate without force, without torture, 51 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: to tell the truth. My god, Hayes. Think of that, 52 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: the power of truth and end de lies and deception. Yeah, 53 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: you could go all the way absolute knowledge. You're almost there, Hayes. 54 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Don't lose your nerve. Feel documented, every word, every detail. 55 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Don't worry good Man, Hayes, good Man. If I am 56 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: ever to get better again, I must cooperate with Dr Hayes. 57 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: I can trust Dr Hayes only when I'm absolutely healthy again, 58 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: will I be released? And only by fully cooperating with 59 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Dr Hayes, Can I ever hope to become well again? 60 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: I have no secrets. There is nothing I can't tell 61 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Dr Hayes. If I am ever to get better again, 62 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: I must cooperate with Dr Hayes. I can trust Dr Hayes. 63 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Only when I'm absolutely healthy again, will I be released. 64 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: And only by fully cooperating with Doctor Hayes, can I 65 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: ever hope I have secrets? This is Karen Meyers. She's 66 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: doctor Hayes special patient. The first thing you want to 67 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: do is to check the chart and see when she's 68 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: do to be dosed and fit. I can trust Docthor Hayes. 69 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: H only always check her heart rate and blood pressure 70 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: doctores every time, every time, and make sure you log it. Yeah. Great, 71 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: there's doctor Karen. Okay, Monday, Tuesday, the third heron Friday 72 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: the six trust Doctores? Is this right? Has she really 73 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: been asleep this long? How are we doing? Karen? Dotores? 74 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: Do you think you could eat something? Thanks? That's a 75 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: good girl. Just take it slower. We have some nice 76 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: warm cereal for you. M hm h it's early chest. 77 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Have a bite at this. What do you get one 78 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: hundred of our sevent days low? That's where should she 79 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: noted on the chart? Yea? If there's no change, that 80 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: just put his check marks. Why is it dark ever? 81 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: To have another bite? There you go, it's dark to 82 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: help you sleep, so you can rest messager cast and 83 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: check her heels for bed sores? Yeah? No, knees? Hey, 84 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: I can't move my arms? Secret? Where are they desired? 85 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: Where are they ties? You just full of questions today, 86 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: aren't you? Karen? Open? That's it. You just don't want 87 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: you to roll out of bed when you sleep, so 88 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: we're using the restraints. Would you like a sip of 89 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: waters her? How some of this? Yeah, that's a girl. 90 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Can you eat another bite? No, that's fine if you 91 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: don't want to do this in koll story? Do what 92 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: by down on this? But I can trust? No? No? Please? 93 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Does any a minute? Just let me just let me wait. 94 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: You know you'll go right back to school. Figure out 95 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: set o. Why isn't she convulsing the phena barbital? Her 96 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: body is so medicated that it it just doesn't react 97 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: the effects of the electro shop all remain inside her head. 98 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: Did you mark the time? Yes? Ma'am, settle her headphones 99 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: and we'll be done. How long can she sleep like that? 100 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: As long as Dr Hayes wants her tooth? Doctor? I 101 00:09:53,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: could trust dryly when I'm absolutely only again m hmm. 102 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: And only by fully co operating with Doctor Hayes can 103 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: I ever hope to become well again. I have no secrets. 104 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: There's nothing I cannot tell Dr Hayes. If I am 105 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: ever to get better again, I must cooperate with Dr Hayes. 106 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I can trust Dr Hayes. Only when I'm absolutely healthy 107 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: again will I be released. And only by fully cooperating 108 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: with Dr Hayes can I ever hope to become well again. 109 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: I have no secrets, Yes, just checking in before I 110 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: clock out that Gloria said she's getting the hang of it, 111 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: she'll work out fine, and I'm Karen, what is it? 112 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: Vir Tree? Doctor? I know it's not my role to 113 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: second guess your methods of treatment, especially with something that 114 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: is so ambitious, but I have to wonder if keeping 115 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: a patient asleep for so long it's not four days? 116 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? I have to wonder if 117 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: keeping a patient unconscious for thirty four days only waking 118 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: her up long enough to feed her, shock her and 119 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: send her back to sleep again. Is well, it's not 120 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: entirely humane. HM. You're absolutely right, Virtue. It's not your 121 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: role to question my methods of treatment. It is your 122 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: role to see that the treatments I prescribe or carried 123 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: out exactly as instructed. This is a time of great 124 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: opportunity for us. I can't allow anything to happen to 125 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: derail it. Opportunity for whom doctor or state hospital. But 126 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: more than that, for modern mess. Advancements are being made 127 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: every day, and we have an opportunity to be a 128 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: part of it. It's like an age of exploration discovery 129 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Christopher Columbus the Mayflower. It's happening now, explorers or colonists 130 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: as I supposed to be. Nobody's trying to call on 131 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: on you've seen intent on staking a claim. But whose 132 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: flag are you carrying? I see your point, No, I'm asking. 133 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: I know you may not approve of some of my methods, 134 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: very I always have until now, I trust that your 135 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: opinions on interfere with your performance on the ward. Dr 136 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Hayes miracle treatments have come and gone. This hospital has 137 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: seen more ages of discovery than I care to count. 138 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: Patients having their entire sets of teeth pulled, confined to 139 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: their necks in water tanks, having their brain tissue scrambled 140 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: insulin shock clor promising straight jackets. It wasn't so long 141 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: ago that we used the cages. Don't call them, it's 142 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: what they are. What should I call them? It's what 143 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: everyone on staff called them, except on paper. On paper, 144 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: it's I and C isolation and confinement. Sometimes I go 145 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: down to the basement and look at them. They're still there. 146 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm well aware of that. In all my 147 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: time here, I've understood that it was my job to 148 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: just do my job, Okay, not to second guess the 149 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: methods of the men in charge good because it's essential 150 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: that we have Even when I was certain that we 151 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: were doing nothing more than inflicting physical harm on the patients, 152 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: we'd never knowingly harmed any of our trying to erase 153 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: their symptoms with drugs and shock and surgery rather than 154 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: trying to isolate the cause. That's your job, My job, 155 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: My job to oversee the efficient and orderly operation of 156 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: this ward. That's what I've always done and that's what 157 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: I'll continue to do. Is that what you think I'm 158 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: doing inflicting harm. To be honest, I don't understand what 159 00:14:53,920 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: you're doing, and that's what frightens me the most. Oh, 160 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: if there's nothing more, I'll say good night, er Tree. 161 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: Who's the night nurse, Debbie? Do you mine asking her 162 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: to take Karen off the pheno barb around four am? 163 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Let her come out of it. Then when you get 164 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: in we'll have a look at her. Bring her into 165 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: my office for an interview to make sure she's wonderful. 166 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: I'll see to it right away and virtue Yes, Dr, 167 00:15:35,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: thank you, brust. Dr Hayes. This is patient Karen Myers, 168 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: October interview six, after thirty four days in the sleep room. Doctor, 169 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: patient is not a sodium amatoor drip. This should place 170 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: the patient in a semi lucid state susceptible to hypnotic suggestion. Also, 171 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: president is ward head nurse Ergery Bilburn. I must collaborate 172 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: with Dr. That's it. Just sit her up in the chair. 173 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I can trust doctor. I just want to make sure 174 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't lean over and pull the ivy out. Absolutely, 175 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: help go ahead and kill the driving take and only 176 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: by fully coor are you with me? Karen Karen, Karen, Karen, there, 177 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: we are wonderful. Thank you, Verdrey. I'll call you a 178 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: fine nature. Perhaps I should sit in and observe. I 179 00:16:53,360 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: could take notes. Mhm, very well, I'll be outside. Just relax, Karen. 180 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: I want you to take a little journey. I want 181 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: you to take me with you. Can you do that 182 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: for me? I want you to go back to the 183 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Dixie Hotel the night you were arrested, Room five seventeen twelve. 184 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Was that twelve? Five twelve? Always? Yes? Yet five twelve. 185 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: I want you to be there right now, just as 186 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: you were that night. I want you to remember where 187 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: you were, what you were doing, who you were with. 188 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not there. I'm here her. I'll keep your 189 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: eyes closed. Remember you're in room five twelve, the room 190 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: with bed, and you're with the man. Which one the 191 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: one you were with that night? More than one? More 192 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: than one? Right? Well, I'm sure he was the last one. 193 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: I believe his name was Ronald Ronald Grant. Is that 194 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: the name he gave you? Ronnie? No last name? Right? 195 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: You brought Ronnie up to the room, didn't you? Yes? 196 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: Why did you bring him to the room? He wanted 197 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: to he wanted to what he wanted to come up 198 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: to my room. Was there anyone else in the room 199 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: with you? No? No, because I was under the impression 200 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: you had a partner, maybe something like a scoured or pimp. 201 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: What the man behind all this? The one who arranged 202 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: for you to bring Ronald up there, the one who 203 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: pushed Ronnie out the window. You know who I mean? Oh? Him? Yes? Him? 204 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Tell me about him? What is his name, Karen? I 205 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: can't tell you, why not, I'm not allowed. But you 206 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: do know his name? Did he ask you not to 207 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: tell I'm not allowed to speak his name. He made 208 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: that very clear. Well, if you can't tell me his name, 209 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: perhaps you can tell me something else about him. For instance, 210 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: what does he do do? That's right, he doesn't do anything. 211 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: He just watches me, watches you, watches me when I 212 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: with men, watches me to make sure I do what 213 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do with men in room five twelve, 214 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: always room five. So the night you move with Ronald, 215 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: this other man, was he in the room with you? No? 216 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: He came in later. No, this this person watches over you. 217 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: You make it sound like he's uh is even real? 218 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: What is it? Some defense mechanism? You're projecting, so you 219 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: don't have to. I don't understand when he's there with you? 220 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: Do you see him or is he invisible? He prefers 221 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: not to be seen. I understand, but he's there. I'm 222 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: sure he's there to protect you. He protects me, he 223 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: controls you. Is he omniscient? I don't know what you mean. 224 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Does he know everything? Does he have absolute knowledge? Seems to? 225 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Is he omnipotent? Does he have absolute power? He seems to. 226 00:21:54,040 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: Does he have a name? Yes? Good? What is it 227 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: forbidden to speak? Have you seen his face? Yes? You've 228 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: spoken to it, yes, and he's spoken back, of course. 229 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: And what does he tell you? He tells me what 230 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: to do, which is what I can't tell you. For 231 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: christ say, why can't you tell me? He made it 232 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: very clear it isn't to be known. I'm not to 233 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: talk about it with anyone very well, then I won't 234 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: ask you to talk about it. But if you can't 235 00:22:53,160 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: tell me, could you show me? M Karen? Can you 236 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: show me what it is that? What he wants you 237 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: to do with the men in room five? Lots of things, 238 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: just one thing, the most important thing. Oh, for the record, 239 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: patient is has raised her forefinger and is uh indicating 240 00:23:36,119 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: her open mouth. You may lower your Handcaren. That's fine. 241 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: Good morning, ladies. Today is a very special day. One 242 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: of our patients is graduating and we'll be departing from 243 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: our little club. Please join myself, Dr Hayes and the 244 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: entire staff and wishing Charlotte the very best of luck 245 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and the happiest future back home with her husband. It's Tuesday, 246 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: January eight, and it's going to be a glorious day. 247 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: It's so exciting to come on, ladies, let's give her 248 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: a little space. I know we're all excited. Will you 249 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: write you if it's not too much to let me 250 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: have a word with her? Is you please please write 251 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: me a postpord I love you, dear, Thank you. By 252 00:24:51,240 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: Now it's time, Charlotte. Are you excited? I'm ling You're 253 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: going to be fine, Charlotte. Your husband is here. Bert's here. Yes, 254 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: he's talking with Dr Hayes right now. I'll carry your 255 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: release and walk you down. It's good to see you again, Bert. 256 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Any problems, any questions, don't hesitate to call. I will 257 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: thank you day or not here, Yes, sir, give her 258 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: some time to settle in. Try not to rush her 259 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: into being who she was. Spending two years and these 260 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: walls does change a person. But I assure you she 261 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: is still your Charlotte. It's just gonna take her a 262 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: little while to become that person again. But it'll all 263 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: come to the familiarity, the affection, I promise. I can't 264 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: thank you enough, doctor, for everything you've done. I think 265 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: nothing of it. Seeing a patient return homes the greatest 266 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: reward I can have. Good a start, patient all packed up, 267 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Hello. It's not gonna be easy 268 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: for us seeing you leave, is it? That's true? Doctor, 269 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: I'm not going far, am I No, just across town, 270 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: and since this is New Canaan, you'll never be very 271 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: far away. I'm sure we'll see each other in town, 272 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: bump into one another at the supermarket. Won't that be funny. Yeah, 273 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: we're all very proud of your should You're going to 274 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: be fine. Bye, Charlotte, be well, God bless you, Charlotte. 275 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: Good bye. M M. Well let's let's go the older up. Okay, 276 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: mhm's car's arms great one, bring one down. I don't 277 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: remember it. You never see it, isn't it. It's a 278 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: couple of years old, who do you. I guess I 279 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: missed so much. We've got a lot of catch enough 280 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: to do, but we have all the time in the world. 281 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: Show what is it scared. We're almost there. When we 282 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: get home, you can relax and do whatever you want 283 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: to do. I turned the baby's room into a sewing room. 284 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: Fix it up, real nice. You're gonna like it. Come on, 285 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: that's it. You can do it or almost to the gates. 286 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: But I can't, Charlotte, sweetie, just a little further. All right, 287 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: you can deal with it. There's there's not a thing 288 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: in the world to be afraid of. I'll take good 289 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: care of your baby. No, no, no, no, no, I 290 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: can't go up. I can't go Okay, okay, Charlotte. Hey, 291 00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: you've got to get caught. You have to come on now. 292 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: No more games. No, I can't. You can't. No, Charlotte, honey, 293 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: everyone's looking at you. They're all at the windows. You 294 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: don't want them to see you like this. Something's wrong. 295 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: She's not ready. Wait, she's walking again. I'm afraid. I 296 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: can only be happy here, Bert, I can only be 297 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: healthy here. What move it now? You're hurting me? No, No, 298 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: getting your ass in the goddamn car I can't do 299 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: it now, or don't call. You don't understand I can't. Yeah, 300 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Jesus called Graftown Heaven. Go out and get Charlotte. Bring 301 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: it to the e c. T as quickly as possible 302 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving worse right away, thanks awesome. Get I'll find out. 303 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know perfectly. I need a moment. That's it. 304 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Take her straight in there, glorious, set up everything, go 305 00:30:47,040 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: one m your attention, please, ladies. It seems that Charlotte 306 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: was not quite ready to leave our little group, so 307 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: she'll be staying with us a little longer. I want 308 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: to ask all of you for a little bit of 309 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: extra kindness today. I want to give Charlotte as much 310 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: privacy as she requires, as much companionship as she desires 311 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: today tomorrow, as long as it takes. I don't I 312 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: don't want to see any tears. I don't want to 313 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: hear the I don't want to hear the words I'm sorry. 314 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: I want to see smiles and hugs and words of welcome, 315 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: because that that's all that Charlotte needs from us right now. 316 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: So that's what we'll give her. Thank you, ber those 317 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: very nice I did it for her, not for you, burgery. 318 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk in my office. Yes, of course, can't parrot 319 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: seeing Charlotte fail that way, watching months of work just 320 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: go down the drain. Two years she comes in with 321 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: about a postpartum depression. Now she can't more than about doctor, 322 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: Remember what it was like when she arrived. She had 323 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: lost a child, she had cut her wrists and wasn't eating. 324 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: We should have taken her case more serious. And I 325 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: think I've treated her too much as a staff member 326 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: and stopped looking at her as a patient. It's my fault, really, 327 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: You're exhausted, not just me, all of us, yourself included, 328 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the e c T schedule, the sleep room, the driving tapes. 329 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: It's too much. It's too much. Don't confuse my fatigue 330 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: with my concern for the well being of these women, 331 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: would vitre. It's no one's fault, really, But the damage 332 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: has been done, the public humiliation we suffered by that 333 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: spectacle she made out there in our humiliation. The only 334 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: person suffering over this is Charlotte. All the same word 335 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: gets out. The damage could be severe, It gets out 336 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: to whom. You know, the opportunities we've been given lately, 337 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: there's no limit to what we can accomplish. But we 338 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: have to earn Our program is under a lot of 339 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: scrutiny right now. Can't afford another embarrassment like that. We'll 340 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: start over. Will they race everything deep pattern her mind, 341 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: wipe her clean and rebuild from the ground up. How 342 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: do you expect to do that without the tools. We 343 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: increase the duration of the sleep cycle. We will increase 344 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: the E C T frequency, play with the intensity. We'll 345 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: make the changes slowly, right considering this stage. For this 346 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: to work, we need to shock her system. We'll start immediately. 347 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: I'll record a psychic driving tape for her myself. No 348 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: more gentle persuasion. Tear her down so we can build 349 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: her up. It was a mistake to try and normalize 350 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: her with thin the hospital. There's no such thing as 351 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: normalcy here. Yeah, she needs to be home, bed room, 352 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: the kitchen, the living room, the places that define in her. 353 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: That's where she needs to regain her sellness of self. 354 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: Not here. We couldn't rid her of her neurosis. Put 355 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: her back in the home. Tabula rassa. Yes, her healthy 356 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: instincts could return naturally. That's it. You might be able 357 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: to salvage this situation. After all, what do you say 358 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: about that? Are you doing this because it's the best 359 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: thing for Charlotte or two keep her from being an 360 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: embarrassment to this. Count on you, Virdree. You can I 361 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: can't do this without your help. You have it. Good good. 362 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: The Control Group is a production of How Stuff Works, 363 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: written and directed by Brett Wood, recorded and mixed by 364 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: Rob Gal m m m m hm hm