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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Well, what's the meatlow song? Two out
Speaker 1: of three? Eight? Well, Everson Walls is here, Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: is here for Mick Shots in the SWBC podcast studio
Speaker 1: at the Star. But Bill Jones and I understand this,
Speaker 1: when you have more than one master, you have to
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes go the other direction. And so Bill is
Speaker 1: away doing an interview for CBS eleven, and you're just
Speaker 1: gonna have Everson and Mickey today unless Nat and Frisco stops. Mate. Hey,
Speaker 1: so we have to we should take a tally on
Speaker 1: who's missed the most days, right Yeah. I think you'd
Speaker 1: win in as far as the least amount of days,
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, at least show at least for this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yes show, so you should. You don't give much
Speaker 1: credit for that. I haven't had any ailments or any
Speaker 1: surgeries or Oh by the way, you will be glad
Speaker 1: to know that my return to the DPS office to
Speaker 1: get my driver's license was successful. Yes, yes, you did it,
Speaker 1: you did it. No, no rants today. It was really
Speaker 1: funny because I gave the lady the little sheet that
Speaker 1: you had to fill out, gave her my driver's license,
Speaker 1: and the first thing she asked, she goes, you got
Speaker 1: your passport, and I said, I've got my passport, I
Speaker 1: got my birth certificate, and I got my Social Security card. Now,
Speaker 1: so which one did they actually need that? One of
Speaker 1: the three? I think either one of the first two. Oh,
Speaker 1: first two. Yeah, so social not everybody no birth certificate
Speaker 1: or passport. Yeah, because I guess when you get your
Speaker 1: passport maybe they're more official checking your background to make
Speaker 1: sure you're not an illegal. Well I don't, I have,
Speaker 1: I have, I have three years okay. It also says
Speaker 1: you can you can renew it two years in advance.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, and you can renew it if
Speaker 1: it expires too. By the way, you're just taking the
Speaker 1: chance of getting stopped with an expired license. That's all.
Speaker 1: I'm happy. They look good, though. I like the real,
Speaker 1: the real idea. Yeah, that's got the little gold star
Speaker 1: on there to make sure that you're yes, welcome to
Speaker 1: Welcome to this century. Yes, absolutely, I got it done.
Speaker 1: And the lady was very pleasant too, by the way.
Speaker 1: Not see there you were ranting yesterday. Now you need
Speaker 1: to give those people some life. I did. I did.
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, thank you for being so pleasant.
Speaker 1: There you go, because a lot of times when you
Speaker 1: go in there, those people hate their jobs. Right, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a sloth. Yeah right, that's a good word to Chris.
Speaker 1: All Right, cowboys, colts, we are almost there. It's Friday.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have basically meetings today, no practice. Um. The
Speaker 1: injury port only changed by one person. And there was
Speaker 1: I think a misconception going on earlier yesterday that Terrence
Speaker 1: Steele was out with a sickness. I found out he
Speaker 1: was out with a personal family situation. So you you
Speaker 1: you huh right. I got to the bottom of it, right, Detective. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm short for detective. Come on, man, Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it is. I can't help because his name is
Speaker 1: maginy rhymes Okay, sorry, but anyway, he'll he should be
Speaker 1: good to go m for Sunday. Although the two guys
Speaker 1: that were out with illnesses, Digs and Gallop, were still out,
Speaker 1: But Mike McCarthy basically said today he felt pretty good
Speaker 1: that they should be good to go, and I think
Speaker 1: he felt a bar He said that yesterday good to go,
Speaker 1: and Curse and DeMarcus Lawrence at least were limited all week,
Speaker 1: so they should be good to go too. So for Les, yeah,
Speaker 1: for a health standpoint, they should be in pretty good
Speaker 1: shape and they would. And he also said they would
Speaker 1: make a decision on Washington probably on Saturday, see how
Speaker 1: practice goes, and see just kind of where he's at.
Speaker 1: But the way he talked about it, it's almost like, well,
Speaker 1: it's sto It's like he's ready to go, even though
Speaker 1: he hadn't had any off season or training camp or practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a couple of days. Three he would have had
Speaker 1: three practices. So we'll see where that one goes. And
Speaker 1: then for Tyran Smith, they're going to see where he's
Speaker 1: at next week. But it sounds like they're, you know,
Speaker 1: doing different contingency plans on who's playing where and just
Speaker 1: make sure that when they have eight guys up on
Speaker 1: the offensive line, that the other three are very versatile
Speaker 1: that can do different things. And that's that's what I
Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, the luxury that we have with the
Speaker 1: depth on this team. That is something that took a
Speaker 1: lot of planning and a lot of foresight from the
Speaker 1: from the coaching staff and the scouting because these guys
Speaker 1: that we have getting rid of bash them. That lets
Speaker 1: you know what kind of luxury we have around here.
Speaker 1: The fact that you were able to let someone like
Speaker 1: that go. I thought he was a good player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know that no chance of I haven't seen.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. Um like signing them back to
Speaker 1: the practice squad. So now they have an open spot
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster. They only have fifty two.
Speaker 1: So there's a spot, there's a watch. There's a spot
Speaker 1: for Washington, uh, you know, or Beckham, although you could
Speaker 1: basically say we're signing you to the practice squad until
Speaker 1: you're ready to play and not carry deadweight on the
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, because you can practice if you're
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. So he's in New York today
Speaker 1: and then is still scheduled to be in Dallas on Monday.
Speaker 1: It'll need to take a physical, and he's not signing
Speaker 1: with New York right He's not going to sign with it.
Speaker 1: Go back there who wants to go back. I mean
Speaker 1: it sounds attractive because of the city itself, but you
Speaker 1: know he's still visiting Buffalo today. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: did I say your ai, Well he's going to Ye
Speaker 1: did New York and Buffalo and Buffalo to the day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it backwards. Now that Buffalo they very attractive
Speaker 1: to him, Yeah, really very especially you know, just the
Speaker 1: way they talk about the Bills, the chance they have
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl, they give him a better
Speaker 1: chance than anybody. They won. The night before they won,
Speaker 1: well they played an extra game. They're nine in three,
Speaker 1: so they were eight and three just like the Cowboys. Um,
Speaker 1: but no one likes the Cowboys to win it all.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't a spectacular performance by the way last
Speaker 1: night either. Well they haven't had spectacular performances in about
Speaker 1: a month, right, And so that's just the way it
Speaker 1: is since they lost to the Vikings, well even before that.
Speaker 1: You know, everything sounds good in the offseason and you
Speaker 1: try to build on the next season, but teams are
Speaker 1: ramping up a buffalo just like they ran for the Cowboy.
Speaker 1: This is what the Cowboys go through every week, right,
Speaker 1: whether we're Sally or whether we're good, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Then Buffalo is getting the taste of that. And Josh
Speaker 1: is just not really understanding that sometimes force meets force, right,
Speaker 1: and you don't always win, you know. He's kind of
Speaker 1: like Dak. He's so determined and I'm gonna be this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna good, I'm gonna wield my team to victory.
Speaker 1: That works a lot of times, but when it doesn't,
Speaker 1: you gotta know how to pivot a little bit. And
Speaker 1: he's right now, he's trying to learn how to pivot.
Speaker 1: He's doing a pretty good job though, Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: can see and when it works, it always looks great.
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't give up on a play. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run, right. He got hit a couple of times
Speaker 1: last night, and see that's not gonna last long. You
Speaker 1: can ask Cam Newton about that, right, Big guys like that,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start slowing down. You wonder
Speaker 1: why your maneuverability and where it used to be, things
Speaker 1: of that nature. So he needs to be he needs
Speaker 1: to pace himself right, as I tell my guys when
Speaker 1: we go out the happy hour. Pace Okay, well, you
Speaker 1: know what I think The guy in Baltimore starting to
Speaker 1: figure that out. Yes he is. I mean when he
Speaker 1: starts taking hit after hit after hit, right, Um so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think the Buffalo. But again, it's gonna come
Speaker 1: down to who pays what I guarantee you and who's
Speaker 1: gonna give him a long term attractive yeah deal. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you hate to see that that's this,
Speaker 1: but it's it's life. Right. Well, I'm sure he'll look
Speaker 1: at it like this because it's uh, it can go
Speaker 1: hand in hand. You're a good deal with a good team.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be with a bad team. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have to compromise, right, being with the Giants, to me,
Speaker 1: that's compromising. Right. If you go on the Buffalo, then
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, they'll they'll most likely give me a
Speaker 1: good deal on a damn good team. Right. That should
Speaker 1: be good for a period of times that I think
Speaker 1: he has got some stability, right, the head coach should
Speaker 1: have stability. Um, and that if you look at like that,
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Dallas should be number one. Those two should
Speaker 1: be tops on this list. Yeah. And then again from
Speaker 1: his standpoint, um know, I don't know if when they
Speaker 1: say you come in for a physical, do they physically
Speaker 1: make you run so I could see where you're at
Speaker 1: because you know, you can take an MRI of the
Speaker 1: knee and see you know what it's doing. But okay,
Speaker 1: now what kind of shape. Yeah, he'll be he'll probably
Speaker 1: do that into us, right, I would think. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be here Monday peaking, right, you got
Speaker 1: to be paparazzi, right, would be paparazzi on the sideline. Right.
Speaker 1: We need to we need to find somebody. Oh and
Speaker 1: the other thing is is the Cowboys Club is closed
Speaker 1: on on Mondays. Oh yeah, so we couldn't sneak up
Speaker 1: there and look. Right, So he'll be here Monday, although
Speaker 1: the people at doctor Doctor Pepper Curing would be able
Speaker 1: to see. They'll do it indoors. Yeah, obviously if he
Speaker 1: agrees to do it, you might already have his mind
Speaker 1: made up in Buffalo, or maybe he's saying, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not working out, and i'd have a problem with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I would too, right, because you kind of
Speaker 1: got to know, you got to know where where he's going. Well,
Speaker 1: from his standpoint, he's thinking, you know, I'm a vetean
Speaker 1: and unproven, Uh, you know, get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what he's thinking, because are you willing
Speaker 1: the guest Mick that they're gonna work him out on grass?
Speaker 1: He's a big advocate of getting rid of twelve? You
Speaker 1: are he got, so how would why would you want
Speaker 1: to bring him in here then say, oh, guess what
Speaker 1: I go put get on the turf that he doesn't like. Well,
Speaker 1: so I'm just letting you know, I think you think
Speaker 1: I would do if you're gonna work him out on
Speaker 1: grass and you're gonna do it, so you think he
Speaker 1: would be the Cowboys would have him out here and
Speaker 1: in the open. So to speaking, well, I'm saying work out,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be next door look in the Carol
Speaker 1: clinic for a while. Yeah, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I mean they've got to check that out, you know.
Speaker 1: And of course somebody made this point, you know, um
Speaker 1: last year when he went to the Rams and he
Speaker 1: did it, so that was react me if I'm wrong here.
Speaker 1: That was kind of a mid season deal, early season,
Speaker 1: so he had already been practicing before he got there. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was released by Cleveland in October, like October eighth,
Speaker 1: and sign the Rams October like eleven, So he would
Speaker 1: have gone through training camp now this year nothing right,
Speaker 1: nothing since he got hurt in the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: I think you got to take that into kind I mean,
Speaker 1: what would be like your immediate expectation of him, is
Speaker 1: he is he Odell Beckham Junior? Three years ago? Is
Speaker 1: he Odell Beckham Junior? The first few games he played
Speaker 1: with the Rams or the guy in the playoffs, that
Speaker 1: was pretty darn good. But you also have to take
Speaker 1: in consideration, don't you. That's the same acl in the
Speaker 1: same knee. So so I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things to consider here. Think what you need to consider
Speaker 1: playing in the cold weather city with that type of injury,
Speaker 1: or playing indoors at least opportunity to play indoors. You're
Speaker 1: gonna go to Buffalo. You know, that turf as hard
Speaker 1: as hell, right, It's frozen and its tired, right, especially
Speaker 1: you know as the sudden goes down. You know, I
Speaker 1: think that's really a factor for him playing in Buffalo
Speaker 1: in that weather. There's nothing the wear and tear on
Speaker 1: a previously surgery need, right, That's that's something that as
Speaker 1: you get out there running around in that cold weather,
Speaker 1: every step seems heavier and heavier. It's just the way
Speaker 1: it is. You have to you know, your body has
Speaker 1: to adapt to that, right, you know, and you don't
Speaker 1: have much time to do that. And you know, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys haven't minced words. They still want them, I think,
Speaker 1: but they got to see these other things too. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like they're saying all the right things, but it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now we got to talk health, we got to talk
Speaker 1: when you're ready to play, and money. And they want
Speaker 1: to accommodate him in every way that they can, right,
Speaker 1: And they want to prioritize certain things for us, not
Speaker 1: just for him, right, So we gotta come out with us,
Speaker 1: is basically. It's what I'm saying. Yeah, and and and
Speaker 1: then just the fact that they know they've got contracts
Speaker 1: coming up that they got to deal with. And you know,
Speaker 1: they're eight and three without him, So if if he
Speaker 1: was here, would they be nine and two? You know,
Speaker 1: the offense didn't fail in Green Bay, the defense didn't, right,
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, there's a lot of things to consider,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they would be very you know,
Speaker 1: cavalier with their salary cap money available, knowing that you know,
Speaker 1: digs lam, these guys are gonna need contracts here real
Speaker 1: soon Dax goes up, Michael Parsons will be going in
Speaker 1: his third year. So now I sudden, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess they would, but they would have him, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they would have rights for two year. Yeah, right there.
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be just below a quarterback exactly,
Speaker 1: just like Jack's deal. Yeah, it's a priority. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not letting them get away. And here's something interesting, meck.
Speaker 1: If you look at the Cowboys schedule moving forward. Okay,
Speaker 1: so if you bring Beckham in, he's not gonna play
Speaker 1: against Houston. Would you agree with that? Man? I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Okay, So when's the first game he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: It's a short week against phil No, Jacksonville. You say
Speaker 1: you played against Jacksonville, right, that would be that would
Speaker 1: be the soonest right, which is they play on grass? Okay,
Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about the grass turf thing, okay,
Speaker 1: So he'd only have one more opportunity as if the
Speaker 1: standing stay right now, there's only two more opportunities. He'd
Speaker 1: play on turf the rest of the way. If it's
Speaker 1: if it stands right now, right, you got Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: a home game for US, Okay, so he'll play I'm
Speaker 1: turf there, Okay. Tennessee is grass. Washington is grass. Okay
Speaker 1: if we make the playoffs, but Washington's grass. Its grass,
Speaker 1: trust me? Yeah, yeah, at Washington is grassy. Yes. So
Speaker 1: then if we if we're the fourth seed, would have
Speaker 1: to go play against Tampa right as of right now,
Speaker 1: it's grass. Okay. If you win that game, you probably
Speaker 1: got to play against Philadelphia grass again is grass? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have grass. They have grass in Philadelphia. And then uh,
Speaker 1: the last game would be would be between Minnesota that
Speaker 1: could be a turf game or San Francisco out there.
Speaker 1: I believe San Francisco is grass as well. And then
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl if you want to get that far,
Speaker 1: is in Arizona, which we all know is grass. So
Speaker 1: grass will have it. I mean, I'm just saying, you
Speaker 1: think he's looked at it like that, Chris, I don't
Speaker 1: think they look at it like that. He is. He's
Speaker 1: been a big advocate of of get rid of turf. Correct.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if the Cowboys with that, that's
Speaker 1: the sale. I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's something that would be that he's he's already aware of.
Speaker 1: But it's definitely a sale if you bring it, you
Speaker 1: bring that up to in the negotiations. But the bottom
Speaker 1: line is guaranteed money. Guaranteed money. Obviously it's all about
Speaker 1: the cat. Doesn't matter what turf, doesn't matter what you're
Speaker 1: As long as I'm guaranteed my money, I'll get hurt again. Right.
Speaker 1: But it's an interesting concept that is well, I mean
Speaker 1: that would be a fact, A lot of it would be.
Speaker 1: I think that'd be a factor. I really do. I
Speaker 1: think that would be a factor if you were to
Speaker 1: bring that up to him, if he didn't already know it.
Speaker 1: It's of course you want the money, but as you
Speaker 1: scale it down, Okay, that's that's a selling point. That's
Speaker 1: that's a good job because that is a selling point. Well,
Speaker 1: the other selling point is if he has any doubt,
Speaker 1: if he's where he's going to sign, he better not
Speaker 1: going that office with Jerry. He will sell will he
Speaker 1: will convince him that this is the place to go. Right.
Speaker 1: I've always said that if you were doing a business
Speaker 1: deal with Jerry, don't get in the office because he'll
Speaker 1: talk you in to say. I think they I think
Speaker 1: they enjoy being talked into by Jerry, right, you understand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a process that I think a
Speaker 1: lot of them might look forward to. You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting up here and Jerry's trying to impress me, right,
Speaker 1: So that's that would be pretty cool. All right. We
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Speaker 1: Walls Mickey Spagnolo with you Bill. By the way, he
Speaker 1: sent in his picks to click and pick two, So
Speaker 1: don't let me forget it's on my text message here
Speaker 1: when we get to our next segment and start breaking this.
Speaker 1: It's a very lame pick to click. I think he
Speaker 1: had two. Well, yeah he's going he did? Yeah? Has
Speaker 1: he got an either or? Or do we get the tep?
Speaker 1: This is who you're going to cancel it all out
Speaker 1: that we don't play that here. No, don't be straddling
Speaker 1: the fence now. But and by the way, since I
Speaker 1: brought this up when the show was over yesterday and
Speaker 1: it's two three days late, but since the soccers on TV,
Speaker 1: remember my pick to click was Pelicic and he scored
Speaker 1: the winning goal out for the right. Yes, absolutely, and
Speaker 1: he got he got and then he he got hit,
Speaker 1: but he got. I was gonna say somehow posterized the
Speaker 1: wrong spot by the way. Now he was going for
Speaker 1: it though. Now that guy's relentless and yeah, and he
Speaker 1: came up with the big goal and got their one goal. Right,
Speaker 1: can't score two? Oh, they tried and it was disallowed
Speaker 1: on the off sides. So anyway, the Colts, uh, bunch
Speaker 1: of their guys that were limited and didn't practice got
Speaker 1: upgraded to full. So. Uh, the wide receiver Kiki Kuti
Speaker 1: uh is it didn't practice with an illness on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: but he was full on Thursday. Uh. Center Ryan Kelly
Speaker 1: um knee ankle limited it on Wednesday, full on Thursday.
Speaker 1: And uh they did put one more guy. Is that
Speaker 1: the starting center? Um? Because yes it is. He's one
Speaker 1: of their he's one of their best. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: one of their better offensive line now. Um, and that's
Speaker 1: the big injury there. Let me see who else they upgraded.
Speaker 1: You know, that guy was full, did not practice. Brandon
Speaker 1: Smith was out with a illness, So we'll see where
Speaker 1: that one goes. That's their starting right tackle. Wow. Um,
Speaker 1: So they've had problems on that offensive line other than
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson, although Kelly's pretty good, but they just haven't
Speaker 1: done a very good job of protecting uh, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: and so that kind of bodes well for that cowboy pass.
Speaker 1: Was the center playing last week? That part I don't
Speaker 1: I don't remember because he got hurt last week in
Speaker 1: the game is the one that he went out all right,
Speaker 1: So let's see when you have when you have these
Speaker 1: kinds of injuries, Man, this bowes very well for you know,
Speaker 1: I was playing. I think the biggest injury from them
Speaker 1: is Kenny Uh, the Kenny Kenny Moore, the second the cornerback,
Speaker 1: the cornerback D and p DNP Yeah, with an ankle
Speaker 1: and an ankle and those things don't clear up now
Speaker 1: in two days. Right, the second day is pretty strong,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah? They got McCarney mccordy, is it right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and more and more as a pro bowler. So and
Speaker 1: um oh White and their other corner Isaiah Rogers uh missed, Uh,
Speaker 1: where's it at? It was limited? Then night they moved
Speaker 1: him to limit it with a knee. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: the guy we talked about yesterday, the tight end Jelanie Woods. Um,
Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced all week with the shoulder quid and
Speaker 1: who might be walking in in Frisco? What's up? He
Speaker 1: come into the Ho Ho ho or something? Right? Uh? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've they've got some injury. That's what did you say?
Speaker 1: You don't I don't want to repeat that, you know,
Speaker 1: coming in with Ho and Harry Hines. It was Harry Hines,
Speaker 1: very cute. I told not repeat. You get your microphone. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing good? How are you doing well? Man?
Speaker 1: They got some hamhogs now now I'm gonna check way seriously,
Speaker 1: the ham to the hawker? You remember you remember when
Speaker 1: the guy used to bring food to the Star and
Speaker 1: he bring in the neck ball. M How are you
Speaker 1: gentlemen doing today? We are just fine, so much better
Speaker 1: since I had my lunch already. Yeah, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to come in and eat while y'all talk. Is that okay? No,
Speaker 1: that's no. No, you gotta don't make too much. No,
Speaker 1: don't smack. Don't smack in the microphone. Smack. You don't
Speaker 1: eat them. You don't get to eat unless you talk
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, the dogs don't don't eat. They slop
Speaker 1: so you'll be in different sounds. I hope you got
Speaker 1: something else other than cookies to eat. Now, just a
Speaker 1: ham hooking two cookies, that's what. Oh that's what they
Speaker 1: all say. Yeah, I'm gonna get the cookies for somebody else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing? What are y'all talking about? Well, we
Speaker 1: were talking about their colts and some of their injuries
Speaker 1: that are concerns. Is out now, well he is, Ryan Kelly,
Speaker 1: he's been limited and then they moved them to full
Speaker 1: so well, oh yeah, but they're they're having problems at
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. Oh yeah, now yeah, I heard about that.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you this is what scares me
Speaker 1: about these offensive linemen and and and I'm not comparing,
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, if we had their offensive line player.
Speaker 1: I was talking about their two centers there and two guards,
Speaker 1: this thing will be ugly. They officive line in the
Speaker 1: middle is just that good. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: They they tell you, tell me, Quentin Nelson, ain't no,
Speaker 1: ain't no. All pro well, Zach Martin, but no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about one no no, no no, okay, Ryan Kelly,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, And and and and and freeze. He
Speaker 1: ain't a bullet all come on out. But their tackles,
Speaker 1: Now that I didn't mention you men, the tackles. This
Speaker 1: is what bothers me is when you look at the
Speaker 1: look at it objectively. Pound for pound in the middle,
Speaker 1: they're equal or better than us. But what what what
Speaker 1: hurts them is their quarterback has ten interceptions. Their quarterback
Speaker 1: holds the ball. This offensive line is not bad. The
Speaker 1: best thing that al cow Boys can do is get
Speaker 1: up on them and make them one dimensional. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: because if I'm Jeff Saturday, if I'm gonna protect my defense,
Speaker 1: because that's the only chance they got is a defense.
Speaker 1: Is I gotta run the ball, even to my own destriment.
Speaker 1: I have to run the ball like like like the
Speaker 1: Bears did. The Bears like. Our quarterback is just not
Speaker 1: good enough. We got to run the ball. He's not
Speaker 1: there yet doing what we need. Yeah, right right, he's growing, yes,
Speaker 1: But the other guy, Ryan is on the back end.
Speaker 1: This kid was great. Ryan was great. He was good
Speaker 1: for years for years, and now I hate to see
Speaker 1: that in a great quarterback. They don't give him anything
Speaker 1: to throw to throw to. Don't Eleving is his best
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know, I can't recall it the tight
Speaker 1: ends any good. The other two guys I don't recognize.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm so you got. Everyone has potentially nate,
Speaker 1: but just on paper, this is a game where And
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other night, so funny
Speaker 1: he said that if this is a game to where
Speaker 1: if I'm playing, I'm telling Mike Downs, don't worry about me.
Speaker 1: We need you up there. And I would be on him,
Speaker 1: on him, and I'm talking about I'll be on the
Speaker 1: line on this guy. I'd be on the line on
Speaker 1: this guy. My my change up. Because you have a
Speaker 1: game plan as a team, but to fit within that
Speaker 1: game plan, you have to have your own individual game plan.
Speaker 1: How you're gonna approach your component, your opponent. I would
Speaker 1: be on both of those wide receivers. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to show me that you can beat Dicks. One of
Speaker 1: y'all over that could be Dicks. One of y'all gonna
Speaker 1: make the difference on Dicks. You show me that Paris Campbell.
Speaker 1: They got some young and that, and that's what I've
Speaker 1: been trying to tell everybody that to listen, they have talent.
Speaker 1: They just haven't played to their town. It's that because
Speaker 1: you This is what I believe I noticed with all
Speaker 1: my heart. You cannot give a team that's ready to win,
Speaker 1: which they was four years ago, three years ago, they
Speaker 1: were ready to win, and you give them quarterback that
Speaker 1: cannot complete. The quarterbacks got worse, you Philips. They shouldn't
Speaker 1: have tried to keep Phillips. They had, They had the
Speaker 1: chance last year. But once again you talked about the
Speaker 1: quarter I'm telling you went to let them down. And
Speaker 1: the last two games they couldn't win the last two games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they were before that. They were on the roll
Speaker 1: with momentum going into the end of the season. Say
Speaker 1: I would need to do is win these next two games.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I think Taylor went down
Speaker 1: that that didn't help at all. He didn't wasn't running well.
Speaker 1: At the end, they lost the last two games. So
Speaker 1: you talk about being ready to win last year, they
Speaker 1: were ready to win. They were to laugh at a
Speaker 1: great galloway Man. They should laugh at Randy. That's all
Speaker 1: Randy talked about twenty years ago. They don't have a
Speaker 1: quad of back Now. I tell any coach that's one
Speaker 1: to get hired college coming out of college are that's
Speaker 1: already savage in pros if you walk up in him,
Speaker 1: what are less than subpart? Because you can, if you
Speaker 1: got any mind, you can build a team. But if
Speaker 1: you got a subpar team and no quarterback, stay where
Speaker 1: you ad. You know what Larry Lacewell used to tell me,
Speaker 1: he goes. You know, if if I don't have the
Speaker 1: guys on defense, I can kind of scheme it, right,
Speaker 1: Yes you can't. I could junk it up and I'll
Speaker 1: cause problems. But I can't fake offense. I cannot fake
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You can't fake talent. Right. So here's
Speaker 1: the bottom line here. The Cowboys lead the league with
Speaker 1: forty five sacks defense. Indianapolis quarterbacks have suffered forty three, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: thirty two just alone with Ryan and then Ellinger with
Speaker 1: eleven lets. You know they're going to try to pass
Speaker 1: as little as part or they're gonna do what the
Speaker 1: Giants did, and that was a pretty good plan. They
Speaker 1: just rolled them out, right. They kept him out of
Speaker 1: the middle, rolled him out, throw short, uh, and then
Speaker 1: every once in a while heave it deep. He's he's
Speaker 1: a mummy, but but he's not a mummy, But I
Speaker 1: don't think i'd be moving Ryan around too, and he's
Speaker 1: not the one like Daniel Jones can move. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Ryan it's out of the pods once again,
Speaker 1: but Parsons it just it's not a good If he
Speaker 1: starts scrambling a lot, then the game is in our hands.
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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola, and Nayton Frisco actually walked into
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Speaker 1: All right, So we kind of got into this um
Speaker 1: kind of a key to the game, and Nate's all
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys dealing with Colts offensive line the middle
Speaker 1: of the yes, the middle of it. Yes, Yes, The
Speaker 1: Cowboys defensive tackles need to be on their game. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because the dudes don't mind. They don't mind you mucking
Speaker 1: it up. They they can physically they either double team
Speaker 1: you out of there with the guard in the center,
Speaker 1: or they can they can singlely man handled you out
Speaker 1: of there. So you know, we have to be real
Speaker 1: conegnistant of what we're doing on first and second down
Speaker 1: because now they ain't. We all know if they get
Speaker 1: in past rushing mode, it's over right, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Jimmy say, sometime, just gotta do what's best for
Speaker 1: the team. You know, you gotta take one for the team.
Speaker 1: And if I'm knel him like I'm running that ball
Speaker 1: sixty five times, I'm like, I ain't. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play as best defensive if I can keep it
Speaker 1: as close as I can and hope that Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: have a player two at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: So this will be a good indication of where this
Speaker 1: Cowboy defense is. Because the Coats have the guy that
Speaker 1: won the rushing title last year. Right, he's been hurt
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's getting help because he only game
Speaker 1: like h seven, seven hundred and change, right, Uh, four
Speaker 1: touchdowns so last year he had eight yards. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's why your boys are working inside. But see that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, what's changed from last year in the offensive line?
Speaker 1: What changed? Did they get new players that well, they're
Speaker 1: starting a rookie a tackle. That's that's one position, right, right,
Speaker 1: And I think I don't remember about the other uh
Speaker 1: the other guy, um Brandon Smith. Yeah, but he was
Speaker 1: there last them guys is in that middle. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember two three years ago, now four years ago there
Speaker 1: it was our guy Zach and Quint Nelson's the best
Speaker 1: scars in the league. And I watched this kid, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he was smalling for and you just think he fell
Speaker 1: off like that. No, he hasn't, but but the culture
Speaker 1: has fell off. The physicalness has fell off and that
Speaker 1: and that's the first thing to go with age and
Speaker 1: within experiences. You're not playing fast, you're not playing hard,
Speaker 1: you're not physical, and that's the first thing to go.
Speaker 1: Because you know, you look at the defense. They stacked
Speaker 1: on defense. They got good enough players to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've done that. So the Cowboys in the last two
Speaker 1: games have held the opponent Minnesota to seventy three yards
Speaker 1: rushing and the Giants to ninety yards rushing and both
Speaker 1: of them had quality running backs. Right, So now we
Speaker 1: see can they do this again like three games in
Speaker 1: a row, because it's been a while since they've gone
Speaker 1: back to back holding the opponent to less than one
Speaker 1: hundred yards. I think I went back and it was
Speaker 1: the first three games last year. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: when you look at those stats, a bit misleading because
Speaker 1: the yards per us was still kind of generous and
Speaker 1: a little bit too much for me to wear. If
Speaker 1: the game will flow the different way, right, then those
Speaker 1: those yards would have they would have moved chains for us. Well. Actually,
Speaker 1: both games four point three a carry. That's kind of
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you I tell people, but look, it should be three
Speaker 1: point nine, four old that should never want to give up.
Speaker 1: But now in the new NFL, that's back to running
Speaker 1: four three ain't bad because you just need to get
Speaker 1: some losses along the way. The previous game it was
Speaker 1: five point three, five point six, four point seven, and
Speaker 1: four point three point five. But that was Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: they ran for one hundred and thirty six. So I think,
Speaker 1: Buddy Ryans, and I'm heading to you, one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty six times yard of rush be good. So you're right.
Speaker 1: So the average average per carry has to come down.
Speaker 1: So if if that's Nate's key, Everson given me one,
Speaker 1: mine is always of course the rush. But if my
Speaker 1: key is for our defense to control the pace of
Speaker 1: the game. In other words, don't let those running plays.
Speaker 1: Don't let those that's four point whatever yards are carried.
Speaker 1: Don't let those be the quality yards because if you
Speaker 1: put that on the third down, then you're moving chains.
Speaker 1: So you don't want the change to be moving the
Speaker 1: way we lost control in Green Bay during the second half,
Speaker 1: the way we've given up the yards against all the
Speaker 1: other teams. The reason we were able to keep those
Speaker 1: guys to the cumulative yards, not the yards per carry,
Speaker 1: was because we forced them to change the game plan.
Speaker 1: They couldn't continue to run it. They weren't. They weren't
Speaker 1: going back to back four yard carries. You see, they
Speaker 1: would get the four yards. And our defense is well,
Speaker 1: I like about our defense. They're not on the heels
Speaker 1: the entire game like last year. They react and respond
Speaker 1: to those running plays. They react quickly. In other worlds
Speaker 1: is doing the drive it. We're not gonna be We're
Speaker 1: not gonna be dumbfounded for the for three downs. We
Speaker 1: figured out much quicker. All of a sudden, Quinn knows
Speaker 1: how to dial up just the right defense to where
Speaker 1: d Law just stuff that runs that he anticipated, and
Speaker 1: then in the passing play, we got enough the right
Speaker 1: coverage to where they don't get catch the receiver they
Speaker 1: want the way they want to catch him. So we
Speaker 1: have been able to stifle their momentum in these last
Speaker 1: two games, and we weren't able to do that in
Speaker 1: those previous games. So that defense has to control their
Speaker 1: run their drives. All right, I'm gonna let you look
Speaker 1: up Bill's picks. I was trying to go there they are.
Speaker 1: I got him. Um, so Bill has the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: know your score. The Cowboys win, right, same man? Uh?
Speaker 1: Bill picked twenty four thirteen Cowboys, and how we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to call him out on this. He's got to
Speaker 1: pick the click is either former Cult Malik Hooker and
Speaker 1: not or yeah, Indie native Zack Martin. So he picked two.
Speaker 1: I am going to so that he picked Malik Hooker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean good, former former Cult. Yeah, we're giving him
Speaker 1: Malie Cooker. We're gonna give him Alee cook because Zach
Speaker 1: Martin him. Every we know Zack is like Pausons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know he's gonna be all right every week. So
Speaker 1: here's what I got. I think we're going to I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna mature this game, at least this game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna handle these guys the way they should be handled.
Speaker 1: U defense is gonna play well, and because the defense
Speaker 1: is gonna play well, they're going to have good field
Speaker 1: position all day long. I think the Cowboys. But that
Speaker 1: also helps my boy Turpin. Oh, I think Terpins the time.
Speaker 1: I think Turpin is gonna have as long as they
Speaker 1: blocked the guys on the end. They haven't been double
Speaker 1: teaming the gunners. And we had opportunities last week to
Speaker 1: where he could have returned it if you blocked the
Speaker 1: guys on the outside and they didn't do a good job,
Speaker 1: this single guy holding up that they did not at all.
Speaker 1: He wasn't and so he was always threatened when the
Speaker 1: ball was coming down. He's really smart because he knows
Speaker 1: when to take a chance and when not to. I
Speaker 1: want him to get back his confidence. I just don't
Speaker 1: want them to get antsy. Well, then that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want I want them to get back his confidence
Speaker 1: because he is antsy. He's trying to do some things now.
Speaker 1: You can just see it. It's he's itching to get
Speaker 1: it done. Because he said yesterday in the locker room
Speaker 1: on the kickoffs, he goes, He goes, I wish they'd
Speaker 1: let me take it out from five to six yards. Now,
Speaker 1: just stop that. Stop that. We don't need that right now.
Speaker 1: We don't need heroes right now. We just need ball players.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my guy. Got thirty to fourteen, Cowboys
Speaker 1: thirty to fourteen, and I have Turpin. Turpin is gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna break one. I'm mean for a touchdown, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a difference in the game, all right.
Speaker 1: So my key, uh is getting off to a faster
Speaker 1: start offensively. They've gotten off to slow starts, trailing at halftime.
Speaker 1: They need to set the tone immediately and force the
Speaker 1: Colts to have to throw the ball to catch up,
Speaker 1: and that'll unleash the pass rush. Uh, my pick, we're
Speaker 1: pretty close. I had thirty sixteen. Um, I just think
Speaker 1: they're better unless they go down there. And I just
Speaker 1: can't see us go out tanking this game. I cannot
Speaker 1: see and and I think they're past that. So um
Speaker 1: my pick to click. But you again, what was it?
Speaker 1: Thirty to sixteen? Right? And um, since I'm going to
Speaker 1: write about him and the pass rush, I am going
Speaker 1: to take Drance Armstrong other big game. Him the guy
Speaker 1: that was basically forgotten in the off season. Now they
Speaker 1: re signed him, but everybody else kind of just oh,
Speaker 1: it's door, right, And I think he's proved everybody wrong
Speaker 1: with what you think about eight sacks. Out bragged him
Speaker 1: a lot coming out because even if he went to Kansas,
Speaker 1: thing is he was a pass rush guy. He was
Speaker 1: a penetrating he got like getting up field, brought in
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, made him a two gap coach
Speaker 1: Marinetta and him said we gotta pass rushing here. We
Speaker 1: got a guy that can get up field. They let him. Listen,
Speaker 1: you know, yesterday he said his goal going into the
Speaker 1: season was to get back to five sacks. I think
Speaker 1: that's where he had five or six last year. And
Speaker 1: then he goes, well, then it became eight. And it's like,
Speaker 1: so now that you got eight double digits, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. He said, that's everybody. Every pass rusher's goal
Speaker 1: is to get double digits sacks. And uh, I think
Speaker 1: he's got an opportunity because you know who they're concentrating
Speaker 1: on right right. You know they don't want Parsons doing
Speaker 1: that and They certainly don't want DeMarcus Lawrence doing that.
Speaker 1: And so the slow quarterback like this, you know, if
Speaker 1: you keep if you don't let him get the ball
Speaker 1: out quickly right, it can pull it down. It's feasting time.
Speaker 1: So to prevent the quickly, do you play man right
Speaker 1: up on the line of scrimmage? I think so that's
Speaker 1: what I think. Now, you gotta play within your abilities.
Speaker 1: Brown just you know, if I'm gonna looking at Dicks,
Speaker 1: then I'm looking at him, you know, just shutting his
Speaker 1: guy down. He has to shut his guy down. And Brown,
Speaker 1: you know, there are times when he can, he can
Speaker 1: make some place, and he's always he's always got to
Speaker 1: have his confidence first. A five year man, I wish
Speaker 1: he would be. I wish he was more aggressive from
Speaker 1: the beginning of the game. He always seems surprised when
Speaker 1: the guy gets off the line on and they test
Speaker 1: him early, don't think, and they do. And you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna do this to you. You know they're gonna
Speaker 1: do this to you. Just man up, let's go. You
Speaker 1: know it's coming. Forget forget the short routes. Okay, that's okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get those. You need to be back here man,
Speaker 1: worst case scenario right now. And I mean it didn't
Speaker 1: take me long to learn that I gotta beat enough times.
Speaker 1: It didn't take me long to learn that, Hey, I
Speaker 1: need to I need to be back here and work
Speaker 1: my way up, because that's that's the way we're gonna
Speaker 1: be the most effective, you know, And we're almost we
Speaker 1: are At the time when he got beat on the
Speaker 1: long one, I guess it was the last game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was gentleman, welcome, and he backed off, and he
Speaker 1: backed off and gave cushion and the guy still ran
Speaker 1: by kind of ran. Well, they were kind of step
Speaker 1: for step, and he didn't get to that. And he's
Speaker 1: gotta be He's gotta make space for himself. I don't
Speaker 1: care how big Mark Collins. I played with him with
Speaker 1: the Giant. He's a thick guy and so he could
Speaker 1: he could. He was like Washington. Yeah, he's about that
Speaker 1: those dimensions, and he could make space for himself. Brown
Speaker 1: has to be bigger, makes space for himself. As the
Speaker 1: ball is arriving. Okay, he's good here, but when the
Speaker 1: ball's in the air, he keeps he loses sight of
Speaker 1: it and he loses his his coordination. So he has
Speaker 1: to be quick footage. You could go from here to
Speaker 1: here real fast, right right. The guy was a four four. Yep,
Speaker 1: he's probably the fastest guy. And that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: although Michael Parsons would do so, you got you gotta
Speaker 1: use your height though, you have to use your hops
Speaker 1: if you have to see, and he's got the height
Speaker 1: to do it. You know. The one guy that taught
Speaker 1: me about short corners was Ron Francis. He could cover, cover, cover,
Speaker 1: but he never could make a play on the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it, all right. Well, we've made a pretty good
Speaker 1: play on this Colts Cowboys game. We'll see how it
Speaker 1: turns out. We'll be back with you on Monday, because
Speaker 1: what time is it. Time to go get some ham hocks.
Speaker 1: Thanks Nate for joining us. You welcome man, all right,
Speaker 1: never said Bill. Thanks for your picks, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: at you again next time. Being on the show. You
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