1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: It's between you and me. I'm going to be winning. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: It's somewhat easy to get to this level and you 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: think you've made it, but what actually keeps you here 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: is having that mentality and that drive to want to 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: be the best every single day, and that's how you 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: can stay here. You made it, but now the work, 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: the hard work, really begins, and you have to continue 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: to have that growth mindset and wanting to get better 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: and be the best every day. And if you have 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: that mentality, you will stay and have a long career. 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: But if you don't have that willingness and that drive, 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be a tough road. 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, Emily Abadi here, Welcome to rewind on Hurdle 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: five days of episodes from the Hurdle Vault. I cannot 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: even tell you how often I get requests for interviews 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: with some of the amazing, amazing people that I have 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: already had the privilege of sitting down with, and sometimes 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: I'm able to do a round two around three. But 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: that is what this week is all about. It's me 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: bringing you some of my favorite conversations back to the 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: top of the feed from the last five years. 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 4: Now, I'll be honest, it's. 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: Easy for me to forget that there are new people 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: joining the Hurdle community every single week, which means that 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: there is a lot of content to catch up on, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: helping everyone on their journey to live happier, healthier, more 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: motivated lives. For today's episode, I am chatting with pro 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: soccer player Ali Krieger, who recently announced that this will 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: be her final. 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: Season of Pro Play. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: So happy to bring you this convo, which originally aired 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: on the show in March twenty twenty two. Make sure 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: you're following along with Hurdle over on social It's at 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: Hurdle Podcast. I am over at Emily a body and 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: with that, let's rewind. Let's get to hurdling. 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Today. 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Ali Kreeger. She is a 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: pro soccer player an Olympian. How you doing today, Al. 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm great. Thanks so much for inviting me. This is 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: such a dream to be here. 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: Oh man, a dream. 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: Blush A spoiler alert. I'm kicking off the new season 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: of the show with you. Oh wow, no pun intended 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: with the words kicking off. 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Well, you're welcome. 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: I'm so amped. 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm so amped to have you here, and I want 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: to be the zillions person to welcome you up to 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: my neck of the woods. You and I are both 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: in the New York area now. Congrats on your new 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: chapter with the Gotham. 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: It's been such a great adjustment for us and such 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: a change. 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: I still haven't gotten warm. 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Yet, so I don't know if that's ever going to change. 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: But I am just cold all the time. 58 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if it changes. 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: But I mean, were you and I were chatting on 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: an absolutely beautiful day in New York. 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 4: But I feel like it is like a ultimate tease. 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Lately, we get these like hints of sixty and then 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: it's like, JK, back to twenty two. 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like I can barely feel my 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: fingers and toes all the time, and we're like out 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: of the training field, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, 67 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait till like end of March or maybe 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: even you know, end of April early May, getting the 69 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: season going in the hot weather. 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: Well, you have nothing going on lately, I mean, aside 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: from the fact that your daughter just turned one years old, 72 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: you had this move. You guys are just like I 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: feel like all over the place. How are you feeling 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: with trying to keep up with absolutely everything that's going on. 75 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: We really are, I mean, we've we're kind of comfortable 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: in that chaos. I mean, I feel like we were 77 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: so open to this move because we just wanted a change, 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: and I think it was time for a change, and 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: so I feel like it was definitely positive for us 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: to get out of the environment that we were in 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: into this refreshing environment with a new team, a new culture, 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: a new city to explore, and business wise, outside of soccer, 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: this is like a perfect city for us to be 84 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: in to you know, get involved not only in the 85 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: community with the team, but also as individuals and you know, 86 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: get ourselves out there into the city and you know, 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: go see other games and you know, interact with other 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: athletes and sports and also just on the business side. 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, so it's been a great experience so far. 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: The move was definitely hectic, but all in all, we're 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: super happy. 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: What other sorts of business endeavors are you trying to 93 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: take on at the moment. 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: I mean there's actually a lot, well, you know, we 95 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: we obviously want to advocate for our LGBTQ community and 96 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: fight for issues that we we believe in and I 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: think that's also important. We're not only defined just by 98 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: playing football, So we need to make sure that we 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: get out in the community and we use our platform 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: for good and we use our platform to speak up 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: for those who who can't one for themselves and maybe 102 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: who don't have a similar platform that we do. So 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: we obviously want to get involved with the community here 104 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: and be challenged in a way. 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Because that's the only way that I feel like we 106 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: can grow. 107 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: And so it's been really exciting to kind of have 108 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: these new experiences. 109 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: So for those of that are maybe listening that aren't 110 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: caught up to speed, your partner, Ashlynn, you married in 111 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: December twenty nineteen, talk to us a little bit about 112 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: I guess kind of coming into your own as a couple. 113 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of challenges that go hand in hand 114 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: with not just playing together, but then kind of coming 115 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 3: out in that really big way. 116 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: So shed some light on that for us. 117 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was definitely new for us to 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: announce our engagement. I feel like, you know, within our workspace, 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, we felt like we needed to be professional 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: and you know, kind of just focus on our job. 121 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: We had this feeling that maybe we wouldn't be as 122 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: ah during that time, and so once we kind of 123 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: said basically, f it, We're going to be who we 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: are and we're going to live our lives authentically, like 125 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: let's you know, just go for it. And I at 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: that moment wasn't or in that time, I wasn't on 127 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: the national team anymore. So I felt like it was, 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: you know, a good time for us to be more 129 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 2: open with our fans. Of course, I mean, our family 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: and friends knew for a long time, but you know, 131 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: just like to say it out loud and to say 132 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: it publicly that we were together, that we were engaged 133 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: in getting married the following year. I think that was 134 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: really important for us and also important for our fans 135 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: and supporters to see that you know, being with you know, 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: a partner of the same sex as you know, normal 137 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: and that's okay, and that we can still be professional 138 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: and be on the same you know, in the same workspace. 139 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: So I think that was really a good moment for 140 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: us because then from that moment on, we could get 141 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: everyone everything we had. I think up until then it 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: was kind of like how we're giving pieces of ourselves, 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: but this isn't really all of us, and I think 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: we were able to give our friends, our family, our teammates, 145 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: our organization, and our club everything we had without feeling 146 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: that we were hiding anything that we weren't being our 147 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: full selves. And so I think after that moment, it 148 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: was like a weight lifted off of both of us 149 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: and we just kind of kept on living our life 150 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: and the support from everyone, even our sponsorships, was incredible. 151 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: We even like we got more sponsorships and attention than 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: I think we ever thought of. 153 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, we weren't sure which way people were. 154 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: Going to go and if they were going to accept us, 155 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: and so that was definitely a really healthy experience individually, 156 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: but as a couple. 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: And then moving on. 158 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: To the wedding, that was probably the last party that 159 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: everyone went through before COVID, and so we were like 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: so pumped to celebrate with all of our loved ones 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: and it was so much fun. And I think putting 162 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: that out into the world really then saved a lot 163 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: of people's lives and maybe helped them along their journey 164 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: of you know, living. 165 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Their true, authentic lives. 166 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: And so that was really inspiring for us, and we 167 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: wanted to do that not only for us and our 168 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: family and friends, but for the world to see that, 169 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: you know, this is normal and the life that we 170 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: live is a choice and it's something that we thrive 171 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: in and something that you know, we want to share 172 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: with everyone. And yeah, it was a great a great 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: year for us. 174 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: So interesting. There's so many things to double click on here. 175 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: The first thing being that I'm sure in that like 176 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: kind of build up to getting to the place where 177 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: you felt ready to share this part of your life 178 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: with everyone, it's not like just sharing it with twenty people, 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: it's sharing it with millions of people. So there were 180 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: probably stories you were telling yourself of how it could 181 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: go or what could happened. So that sense of relief, 182 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: like I cannot even imagine. 183 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: You know, when you like struggle for a little bit 184 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: trying to find yourself in your twenties and your identity, 185 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of us can relate. And you're, 186 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, finding yourself through your sexuality, and I don't 187 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: think you have to. You know, everyone has their own 188 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: journey and it doesn't have to be one way or 189 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: the other. And I think that that part of our 190 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: life was when we were working together on the national 191 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: team and I think we both were kind of going 192 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: through our own challenges in life and both individually and 193 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: as a couple, and kind of trying to navigate through 194 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: all of that. So I know, it's really difficult for 195 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: a lot of us to really, you know, find your 196 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: identity and you know, figure out your sexuality. And so 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: that whole experience kind of came to ahead when we 198 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: were going to announce that we were engaged, and I 199 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: felt really comfortable and confident in us but also in 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: myself that I was ready for this and. 201 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: That we can share now with the world and really 202 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: be true to ourselves. 203 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: And you know, there's a phrase that I feel like 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: I keep hearing pop up because of the pandemic. 205 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: It's called empathy fatigue. 206 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: And it's like you have so much going on in 207 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: your own life and you're like trying to show up 208 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: for other people, and it can be truly exhausting. I 209 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: would imagine as beautiful and wonderful and so fulfilling it 210 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: is to be someone that is helpful and insightful and 211 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: there to an extent for other people. 212 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: Does it ever feel. 213 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: A little overwhelming or perhaps a little frustrating that maybe 214 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: you can't be there in the capacity that you wish 215 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: that you could for so many. 216 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: That's such a great question. Yes and no. 217 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: I feel like, yes, I want to help anyone who 218 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: needs it. I'm such a people pleaser and I'm just 219 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: you know, I worry about everyone else's feelings more than 220 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: my own, and so I feel like I want to 221 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: continue to help everyone can. But also you have to 222 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: think about you know, you can only control what you 223 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: can control. And I think that if all of us 224 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: can take a little puzzle piece in our life and 225 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: really focus on how we can help those within that space, 226 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: I think then all of us together are actually working 227 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: in the bigger picture. So I feel like if all 228 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: of us just kind of take care of our little 229 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: puzzle piece in our little space, then actually, you know, 230 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: everyone else's is growing in a positive direction together not 231 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's unknowingly, but you know, we can't 232 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: control everyone and everything, And of course I want to 233 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: give more, but at the end of the day, I 234 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: need some for myself as well. 235 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: As another crowd giver. 236 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: I think that realization is something that can be hard 237 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: to get to, but once you get there, it's like 238 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: the most valuable moment to be like, I can only 239 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: give so much to other people before I take the 240 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: picture of water and pour some into my own cup. 241 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, I totally agree, one hundred percent. 242 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: And it might take you long time to realize that. 243 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: It's taken me a long time to try and like 244 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: separate myself and be like, Okay, I've done what I 245 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: can and I continue to do that, but I also 246 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: can't forget about myself and make myself a priority sometimes 247 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: because then you're right, you can't give, give, give, and receive. 248 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Nothing in return. 249 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: So and at the end of the day, you're then 250 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: empty and you're like, Okay, well, how am I going 251 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: to fill my cup in order to continue to give? 252 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: So I agree completely. 253 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: You also mentioned earlier being left off of the roster 254 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. Let's talk a little bit perhaps before that, 255 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: talking about just, you know, your journey with soccer. 256 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: I know that you've been playing for one hell of 257 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: a time. 258 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: I had Carly Lloyd on the show god months ago now, 259 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: but she had a lot of sentiments to share about, 260 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: like what it was like to be one of the 261 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: older players in the league, and you've been going at 262 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: this for a long time and been playing really well 263 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: for a really long time, so kind of bring us 264 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: back and talk to us about your entry point into 265 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: playing professional soccer. 266 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's definitely. This is my sixteenth year professionally. 267 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: I you know, we didn't have a league when I 268 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: graduated way back in I was seven, and so I 269 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: wanted to continue to plan. 270 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Ultimately, my dream was to make the national team. 271 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: So long story short, I that year was on the 272 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: U twenty threes. We went to Vasa, Finland and had 273 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: a tournament there and I think a lot of European 274 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: coaches came to that tournament to recruit or. 275 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: To suc see. 276 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: And so I got a phone call from an agent 277 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: of just a family friend and he said, Hey, would 278 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: you want to come try out like for a couple 279 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: of teams in Europe who are interested that they saw 280 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: you this summer. I said, oh, my gosh, sure, Like 281 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: what else am I going to do? Play pick up 282 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: with like my guy friends from high school like twice 283 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: a week and hope I'd get to the next level. No, 284 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: So I packed with two bags and I went to Frankfurt, Germany, 285 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: and I ended up at training with like seven of 286 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: like some of the best footballers in the world, which 287 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: played on the German national team and they were incredible, 288 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: and also Gino Lewandowski, who's my teammate here at Gotham. 289 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: She gotam FC. 290 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: She was also at the field that day, so I 291 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: met her and then five and a half years later, 292 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: I had some of the best experiences of my life, 293 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: both on the field and off the field. That's when 294 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: I kind of went through this whole finding myself and 295 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: kind of exploring. I think I needed that just kind 296 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: of to be and be able to sit with myself 297 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: and in my thoughts and kind of you know, picture 298 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: my life. And I really loved it there. I had 299 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: five and a half great years. I ended up coming 300 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: back because I wanted to help the nwasl start the league, 301 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: so that was my reasoning of coming back after so long. 302 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: But I mean I won Champions League there and all 303 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: the titles that you can win at club level in Europe, 304 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: which was fantastic. 305 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: So that was a great start. 306 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: So I loved it, and I came home and started 307 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: to play in DC, you know, for four years, and 308 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: then got traded to Orlando. 309 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Luckily they traded me there because Ash was there. I 310 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: don't know what would have happened if I would have. 311 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Been traded anywhere else, but and then you know, I'm 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: going to end my career with Gotham FC. So this 313 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: has been quite the experience. I've learned a lot along 314 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: the way. I've been in really good environments and maybe 315 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: not so good environments. So I think I've taken the 316 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: good and the bad and mixed it all together through 317 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: my experiences now and just having the best four weeks 318 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: so far with any club team that I've been on. 319 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: So this has been a great road, a really tough road. 320 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: You know. 321 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: In between there, you've had some big time tournaments World 322 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Cups and Olympics. But you know, in two thousand and seven, 323 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: I decided to take this big risk. I didn't know anybody. 324 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: I just packed my bags. I said, listen, family, I'm leaving. 325 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: I need to get out of here. I want to 326 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: go explore something new, culture, food, people, environment, let me 327 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: learn something about myself, challenge myself. And I ended up 328 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: taking a risk and then ended up, you know, landing 329 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: me in my dream job. 330 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: So I'm so grateful for that experience. 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: It's so funny, right, I feel like you hear that 332 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: all the time. Someone says something like I took a risk, 333 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: and it paid off. But so often people are afraid, 334 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: afraid to take the risk because they're nervous about it 335 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: going in the other direction. Do you think that you 336 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: kind of were born with that level of gusto or 337 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: was this truly something that was entirely out of your 338 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: comfort zone. 339 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: I think a little bit of both, because I was 340 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: definitely like, I don't even know what I'm jumping into, 341 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: Like I have absolutely no clue, but like, I'm willing 342 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: to take that because here I'm you know, I have 343 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: goals and dreams that I want to accomplish, and I 344 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: don't think that this environment is going to get me there. 345 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: So I needed to put myself in an environment where 346 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: they're players who are better than me and kind of 347 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: challenge myself in order to then grow. So I was 348 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: willing to just like try something new, and just like 349 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: you said, like, I feel like, unless you take that risk, 350 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: you're never gonna know. And so the worst thing that 351 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: could happen is if it goes south, I just. 352 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Come back, and so I was like, listen, I'll do 353 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: something else. 354 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: So I definitely had that luxury of, you know, making 355 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: that choice, and they ended up signing me for two years. 356 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: And then the rest is history. But I think, yeah, 357 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: if you don't take that risk, you'll never know. 358 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: Talk to me about getting involved with the US women's 359 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: national team. 360 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: Pia Suntaga came to one of my club club games 361 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: in Frankfurt and we were playing Potsdam and I was 362 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: having to play against one of the best German players 363 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: of all time, Lera Bairomi, and I think she came 364 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: to that game and watched watch me play, and then 365 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: after that game she was, I guess, just impressed with 366 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: the game and the way we played, and then invited 367 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: me to that next camp. And so it was a 368 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: bit of a surprise that I was going to be 369 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: like coming into that next camp, and I'm sure she 370 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: was just kind of, you know, seeing if I could 371 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: fit with the rest of the team and play at 372 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: the level of the national team, because it's a huge 373 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: jump from club it's definitely not the same. And so 374 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: I went into that camp and I felt like, you know, 375 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: I did well, and she gave me great feedback and 376 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: then continued calling me in. And then that was the 377 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: year the World Cup, So this was twenty ten, and 378 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: then the year of the World Cup was obviously twenty eleven. 379 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: And that was in Germany, and so it was just 380 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: kind of like a whole full circle moment. So luckily 381 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: Pia came to one of the games when I was 382 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: playing in Frankfurt, and then you know, the rest is history. 383 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: But along your journey, you also you mentioned some hard times, 384 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: some of those hard times having to do with injury. 385 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: So chat me through what that landscape has really looked 386 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: like for you. I know you had a really rough 387 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: feel a spiral fracture, So let's talk about that. 388 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was three days before the NCAA first 389 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: round game in college and we played against a boys 390 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: team that year just to prep us. It was a Wednesday, 391 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: I think, and we were playing Friday, and so it 392 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: was just like at the end, we just wanted to 393 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 2: get a game in before to prep us, and I 394 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: just got tackled from behind unfortunately, and got tangled up 395 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: and landed down in a weird way and immediately broke 396 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: my fibula. I didn't know at the time, but I 397 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 2: definitely knew something was wrong and that turned into missing 398 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: the rest of the season. That year, we actually went 399 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: to the Final flour, so I missed the final floors. 400 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: I was so devastated, but we played. 401 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: Megan Rapino in the semi final against Portland and so 402 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: we lost in TKS. But it was such a such 403 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: a great year. We were ranked like number one that year. 404 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 2: But it was a real struggle because that was like 405 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: probably one of my first injuries that I experienced and 406 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: not being able to play and you know, just in 407 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: tears and just like going through it. And then the 408 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: road was even longer because I ended up having a 409 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: pulmonary embolism from that surgery the flights to the Final 410 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: four and over Christmas break and then I was on 411 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: you know, birth control pills at the time, so I 412 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: think it was like a perfect spong for that to happen. 413 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: That was a whole nother layer. And then that was 414 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 2: a six month recovery, so it was definitely a long 415 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: period of time where I was away from the game, 416 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: and so I struggled a little bit mentally and wondered 417 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: if I would ever be able to play again. 418 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: And so that took a toll on me. 419 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: And I was only twenty one at the time, and 420 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: I still had another year left in school, and so 421 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: I just fought back and listened to the doctors and 422 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: the professionals as much as possible and was able to 423 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: slowly get back into it, but it definitely put a 424 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: dent in my you know, mindset and mentality, and it 425 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: really challenged me. 426 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 3: You have dealt with other injuries since I think so 427 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: many people can relate to not being able to do 428 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: the thing that they love that brings them so much joy, 429 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: that's a huge part of their identity. 430 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 4: What were maybe some of the. 431 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: Tools that you harnessed, either like mentally or like reaching 432 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: out to help from friends and loved ones to get 433 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: through these times where you felt so unsure of like 434 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: who you were supposed to be or what you would 435 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: do going forward, if X or if why. 436 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's difficult because you do start thinking that you're like, 437 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: oh gosh, what if I can't play again? 438 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm not set up yet for the 439 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: next step. 440 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: You know, you're just going to be forced to kind 441 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: of just like do take another path, which I would 442 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: have been fine with, but it just would have been 443 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: definitely a period of you know, grieving, I guess, so 444 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: to speak. And at that time I was just focused on, 445 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: you know, the next day, and I think a lot 446 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: of people it's difficult for people to not think ahead 447 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: of down the road and visioning, Okay, you're going to be. 448 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: Doing this or that. 449 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: But I honestly just focused on the recovery process and 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: how can I first of all get healthy and then 451 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: how can I slowly get back onto the field, And 452 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: following the instructions from you know, the medical staff was 453 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: really important. And then just taking one day at a 454 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: time and having small goals each day and each week 455 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: rather than looking ahead and setting, you know, my long 456 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: term goals and kind of overseeing those weekly goals, because 457 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: then you're just going to drive yourself nuts if you 458 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: don't meet it at that specific time period. So I 459 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: just tried to continue to get better every day, continue 460 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: to get healthier, and take one day at a time 461 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: and not really put that pressure on myself. So it 462 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: was definitely a slow process, but I feel like in 463 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: the end it like made me that much stronger. 464 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: Feels like some of these themes have been ones that 465 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: have kind of interwoven throughout your entire story. As circling 466 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: back to that twenty seventeen moment, where were you mentally 467 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: when you realized what was going on with the US 468 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: woman's national team. 469 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: I was devastated. 470 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: I was devastated because I was actually playing some of 471 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: the best football in my career and I couldn't really understand. 472 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: And I know there was you know, I was thinking 473 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: of every which way, like what could be the issue, like, 474 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: because you know, my ability and quality on the field 475 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: at that time was really good, and I felt very 476 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: confident and very consistent, and at that level, my mentality 477 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: was good, and I just feel like there was no 478 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: one that was really truly like beating me out of 479 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: my position. 480 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: So I guess I didn't really understand. 481 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: I know that not every coach is going to like you, 482 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: you know, whether that be your playing style or maybe 483 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: just because you know, sometimes there's not even a rhyme 484 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: or reason, like, you know, not everyone's going to like you. 485 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: But I thought that at that level, if you're the 486 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: best in that position and you're playing well in club, 487 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: then you deserve to be there. And so I wasn't 488 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: really understanding that, and even asking the question, I wasn't 489 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: really getting. 490 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: An honest answer. 491 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: And so that's something that I was really upset about 492 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: because in this profession and a lot of us, you know, 493 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: were professionals, like you could just tell me Hey, this 494 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: is what you need to get better at. This is 495 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: what you need to do in order to be here, 496 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: and then a shut out like you know, apply that 497 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: and implement that in every training and get better and 498 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: then bring it back into the camp. Well, there was 499 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: just nothing. It was just crickets, like, it was just 500 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: not even it was just made up, I felt like. 501 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: And so then I thought it was somewhat of a 502 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: personal vendetta. And so that was really a hard time 503 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: period because I just never had an answer of why, 504 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: and so like what can I work on in order 505 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: to get back? And so that's why I think I 506 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: struggled more because I was doing well and I had 507 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: one of the best club seasons of my career with 508 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: Orlando that year, and just it wasn't clique and I 509 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: wasn't really understanding. 510 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: So that was why it was so tough. 511 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: There's kind of two parts to this. 512 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: One is like you get to a point where you 513 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: start telling yourself all of these stories. So if someone 514 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: could have just kind of like put you out of 515 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: your misery to better understand what you could focus your 516 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 3: energy on. The other thing, really is you learning this 517 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: important lesson of doing the best you could with what 518 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: you had right, Like, it wasn't like you didn't have 519 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: or deserve or earn the right to be upset in 520 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: this moment. But then, as I know, because I know 521 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: what's coming, and maybe some of the listeners do as well, 522 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: but like turning your energy into okay, well this is 523 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: how it is now. 524 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna push with that, right And. 525 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: Like we've talked about before, you can only control what 526 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: you can control. So then you know, it's not like 527 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: I turn on the specific alley Careyer that shows up 528 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: just with the national team at camp. It's like I'm 529 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: always that same alley. So in club, I made sure 530 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: that I, you know, showed up every day. I had 531 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: a good attitude, you know, flought for my position, you know, 532 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: earned weekend and week out a position in the starting 533 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: eleven on the or just in the squad of eighteen, 534 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: and just made sure that I was consistent and confident 535 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: in every performance so that you know, that's going to 536 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: always be my mentality. You know, that's always going to 537 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: be me, whether I'm just with club or national team 538 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: or both. So I feel I feel like that's what 539 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: I focused on. I tried to just be more consistent 540 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: and you know, have great performances, and then it hopes 541 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: that the door was still cracked, you know, open, that 542 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: I could get my big toe right in there and 543 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: keep the door. 544 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Open for a little bit longer for you. 545 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: During this time also going through so much personally, did 546 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: you have a hard time navigating your personal relationships because 547 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: of the frustrations that you were experiencing with it in 548 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: your professional life. 549 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: Yes, good question. 550 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I absolutely it's really difficult when you're going 551 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 2: through something. I think, you know, Ash thank God for her, 552 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: Like she's stuck by my side and actually pushed me 553 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: every day to continue to you know, play well and 554 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: do the right things in order to perform at the 555 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: highest level and in order to not be ignored. And 556 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: so I think, you know, she was such a staple 557 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: obviously and helping me get back to the team. 558 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: My family and friends are always going to support. 559 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: But I did feel like I was pushing people away 560 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: because I just wanted, you know, some time to try 561 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: and figure out what was next. I actually tried to 562 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: stay busy as much as possible, and I had my 563 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: camps and clinics, but they can'tc and that we do appearances, 564 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 2: you know, and try to stay busy as much as 565 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: possible in order to kind of, I guess, not have 566 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: as much free time to think about what was going on. 567 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: And so I started working on projects that I've always 568 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: wanted to and you know, visit friends that I've always 569 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: wanted to, and I was able to go to a 570 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: wedding and different like family gatherings that I that I 571 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: had never been able to up until now, you know, 572 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: for years. And so I think that time was really 573 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: healthy for me to kind of pick myself back up 574 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: and you know, do other things that I enjoy. And 575 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 2: so all in all, yes, was a devastating, but it 576 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: then you know, helped me kind of have more time 577 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: and quality time with family and friends that I that 578 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: I didn't before. 579 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: Makes you think of that saying like life is happening 580 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: for you, not to you, and when you're in that 581 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: moment like gosh, does it feel like everything everything is 582 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: happening to you? 583 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: When it feels. 584 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: Completely out of your control and the world is spinning 585 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: and you know, as it is right right for sure, 586 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: this mentality that you're explaining here and like taking advantage 587 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: of what could have been seen as like a very 588 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: you know, and was a disappointing situation. Is why you 589 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: and I've heard you talk about this before, are a 590 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: one percenter, So talk to us about what that is. 591 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think you're, you know, one percenter where 592 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: you have You're willing to do the work that not 593 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: many other people are willing to do in order to 594 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: stay at the top. 595 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: So if it's between you and me, I'm going to 596 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: be winning. It's that fight. 597 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: It's that mentality, It's that drive to want to be 598 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: successful and compete constantly and playing in the sport at 599 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: this level. It's somewhat easy to get to this level 600 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: and you think you've made it, but what actually keeps 601 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: you here is having that mentality and that drive to 602 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: want to be the best every single day, and that's 603 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: how you can stay here. So some you know, my 604 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: teammates and former teammates get to this level and possibly 605 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, I've seen a handful of rookies do the same. 606 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: They're just happy to be here. 607 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: And I feel, you know, you're not going to last 608 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: very long if you just have that mentality like, ah, 609 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: I made it, but it's actually now the work begins. 610 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: You made it, but now the work, the hard work 611 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: really begins. 612 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: And you have to continue to have that growth mindset 613 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: and wanting to get better. 614 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: And be the best every day. 615 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: And if you have that mentality, you will stay and 616 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: have a long career. But if you don't have that 617 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: willingness and that drive, it's going to be a tough roads. 618 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: It's about like not getting complacent, right, And I mean 619 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: the other part of it really is that, yes, like 620 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: this goes hand in hand with leveling up on the field, 621 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: but it also goes hand in hand with like the 622 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: other aspirations that you have, Like being a one percenter 623 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: isn't just excelling in what is your profession. It's kind 624 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: of channeling that same energy and using it to go 625 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 3: after the other pursuits like we were talking about at 626 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: the top of this, the business things that you're interested 627 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: in right now, you know, being an advocate for your community. 628 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: It goes so much farther than just being on the pitch. 629 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely you have to take that into every piece 630 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: of your life. 631 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: Right. 632 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, with my family and like 633 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: doing everything I can outside of the field in order 634 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: to continue to have a roof over my head fight 635 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: for you know, issue that I believe in that sloan 636 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: is going to be affected with one day and making 637 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: sure that you, you know, put all of your effort 638 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: into family, into your sport and. 639 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: Make sure that that stays consistent. So you're right, you 640 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: can't get complacent. 641 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: And it's definitely a journey, but it's all about your 642 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: willingness and what you put into it is what you're 643 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: going to get out of it. 644 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: There's that saying when you're tired, you rest, you don't quit, 645 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 3: and I would assume that priding yourself as a one percenter. 646 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: There are many moments where especially gestures loosely because of 647 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: the last two years, like everything that's going on. Burnout 648 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: is real, like going from one team to next team again, 649 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: the chaos, you thrive in it. 650 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: But it's a lot. So how does Ali take care 651 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 4: of Ali? 652 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Well? I go to therapy so that yeah, we love 653 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: therapy here. That's been important. 654 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: I definitely communicate with my family and friends and check 655 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: in and make sure that like we're all doing okay. 656 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: I feel like that's really important, making sure that you 657 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: know everyone's on the same page and that we're all okay. 658 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: I do think it's really important for Ash and I 659 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: to make sure we make ourselves the priority. I know 660 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: we do everything now and inflown is the priority, but 661 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: really I want her to see us with a smile 662 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: on our face walking into the door after training and 663 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: maybe a hard day. So I think it's okay to, 664 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, kind of do things for yourself in order 665 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: to bring that happiness into the home. And I can't 666 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: forget that because I do carry a lot of mom 667 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: guilt until it gets to be a little bit difficult. 668 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: What does the mom guilt look like for you? 669 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, am I there enough? Am I 670 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: paying attention to your enough? Am I doing activities with 671 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: her enough? And you know, am I away from the 672 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: house like too long? You know, I don't know, It's 673 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: just that that's what it feels like. And so you 674 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: want to make sure you're there all the time and 675 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: get in or everything and there every minute. But it's 676 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: impossible because I also want her to know that it's 677 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: okay to really love what you do, and I want 678 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: her to be inspired. 679 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: By what we do. 680 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: And you know, working in life is really critical, and 681 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: I want her to know that we work hard at 682 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: what we do in order for us to have what 683 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: we have and a roof over our head, and so 684 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: I think that's also important. So it's definitely trying to 685 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: like let that go slowly. It's really difficult for moms. 686 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: And now I understand what moms, you know, say when 687 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: they say mom gil because you just want to make 688 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: sure you're given, giving, giving, so that they are successful. 689 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: But really, you doing what you do best is enough. 690 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: As long as we walk in the door with a 691 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: smile on our face and excited to see her that 692 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's all she cares about. And I have 693 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: to continue to remember that. 694 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you're describing, you know, your tendencies and yourself 695 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: ultimately as someone who is both compassionate and strong. When 696 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: you think about what makes you both a good partner 697 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: and a good teammate, what would you say puts you 698 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: in that bucket? 699 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: On the field, I'm supportive and demanding at the same time. 700 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: Talk to us about being both, because I think you 701 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: have to understand how your teammates receive information and not 702 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: just expect them to receive it. If you're like yeahing 703 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: at them, like some of my teammates can handle that, 704 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: like I can demand a little bit more, but some 705 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: teammates you have to be a little bit more supportive, 706 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: and so I think it's you know, there's a lot 707 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: of value in both and you have to understand each 708 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: other in order to do that. 709 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: But that also boils down to communication. 710 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: And I think communication, not only in my personal life 711 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: but on the field within the team is really critical 712 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: in order to have a successful environment and a safe environment. 713 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: And so I think communication and patients, which I've learned 714 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: a lot being a mom, I definitely try to carry 715 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: that through with myself every day and into the team. 716 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: And I think as I get older, because now I think, 717 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: since we were talking about this earlier, I think I'm 718 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: the oldest player, im I guess son, you know, I 719 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: feel like it's really important to have good communication and 720 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: good build those good relationships because like you said, it's 721 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: not going to last forever and you really have to 722 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: enjoy in the moment, and so being supportive yet demanding 723 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: in order to win a championship is key. And then 724 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: I think having communication and patients every day as just 725 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: me as an individual is something that is really important 726 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: with all my relationships. 727 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: Definitely, And to go back and bring this full circle 728 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: stemming from that time, a poor communication of you not 729 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: knowing your place of feeling frustrated with the US women's 730 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: national team. Bring us to what ultimately happened in Was 731 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: it April twenty nineteen, Yes, talk to me about April 732 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. 733 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: So I was out on the Saga field in Orlando 734 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: during like a double day, and I get back in 735 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: after the first train session. I have a text message 736 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: from Joe Ellis and I said, oh, I haven't talked 737 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 2: to her, and I don't know how long, like what's 738 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: going on? And so I took a look at it 739 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: and she said, hey, I'd love to catch up and 740 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: you know, let me. 741 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: Know when there's a good time to chat basically. 742 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: And I didn't answer right away, you know, I let 743 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: her sit on it for a little bit, and I 744 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: went in and actually talked to my coaches in Orlando 745 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: and just you know, had asked if they had spoken 746 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: to her, because I was just wondering what it could 747 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: possibly be about. 748 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: They said, no, not yet. 749 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: But we talked a little bit about potentially having an 750 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: offer to go back to the national team, and I said, yeah, 751 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: I need to like think about it for. 752 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: A little bit, but I'm going to give her a 753 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: call back. And so I did. 754 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: On the way home after the second session, I told 755 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: her that's when I would have time, and we talked 756 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: a little bit and she had said, I'd love to 757 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: invite you back in, and we went on and discussed, 758 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, some things that I just said, honestly, I'm 759 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: willing to do anything for the team, whatever that is. 760 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: I want to help the team be successful and win, 761 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: and ultimately that is you know what I'd love to do. 762 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: So yes, there was no really explanation, no communication on 763 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: the past or anything. 764 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: I just wanted to. 765 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: Like let that go because I was already in a 766 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: new place and a new environment and a new space 767 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: mentally that I just wanted to continue to keep going 768 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 2: in that positive direction. And so I was so excited 769 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: to have the opportunity again because it was the last 770 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: camp before or maybe the second to last camp before 771 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: the World Cup, and so I couldn't believe it. And 772 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: so I was just really excited to have the opportunity 773 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 2: and I said, whatever you need me to do, I'm 774 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: ready to. 775 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 4: Do, ready to do it. And then I mean come 776 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 4: soon after that. 777 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: To get to the hundred cap mark was just probably 778 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: the most beautiful moment for you. 779 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: Yes, because I was stuck on ninety eight, and honestly, 780 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: it's not about the numbers, you know. For me, it's 781 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: it's just, you know, I was so proud of every single 782 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: one of those appearances. 783 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: To be a part of the team and help the 784 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: team win. 785 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: But I definitely was hoping that I could kind of, 786 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: you know, get those last two and feel I think, 787 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 2: more complete. Not that I I wouldn't if I didn't 788 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: get those, but it just somehow it was just lingering 789 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: and I felt like over the years and the way 790 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: that I was playing, I had, you know, deserved that moment, 791 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: and so I think, yeah, it was a beautiful experience. 792 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for the opportunity. Every time you put 793 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: on that national team jersey, it's an honor, and I 794 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: wasn't going to let that moment pass me by, and 795 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: so so excited that that is where, you know, that 796 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: next chapter kind of began. 797 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 3: You mentioned and your wedding being one of the last 798 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: real great gatherings of twenty nineteen. You know, it's it's 799 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: so awesome. I watched the wedding video on Vogue. Like 800 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: everyone also like does it ever get old? But someone's like, oh, 801 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: I watched your wedding video on Vogue. 802 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: No, but like I have to tell you, we weren't 803 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 2: even planning on having a videographer. We weren't even planning 804 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: on having We were like, oh, like, I think the 805 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 2: pictures will be just fine, right. So then like one 806 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: of our wedding planner's friends was like, wait, they don't 807 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: have a videographer. Like, all, like, we'll do it. Our 808 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: timeline production company were like, we'll do it. And then 809 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: they were like, okay, well we found, you know, a 810 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: videographer if you want to, like, you know, they would 811 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: love to do it for you. 812 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: Guys. I said, one hundred percent, that'd be great, you know. 813 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: So why not even had that footage? 814 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 4: Oh my god? Well the footage was stunning. 815 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: But it's so cool because you do see like such 816 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: a beautiful moment with your friends and family standing truly 817 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: surrounding you, and then I believe in there there's there's 818 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: Meg's speech and everything, and it really highlights the beautiful 819 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 3: relationships that you have in your life, both with your 820 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 3: family and your friends, but also with your teammates who 821 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: have become, you know, just like family. Why would you 822 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: say the relationships that you have with these women are 823 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: literally forever lasting. 824 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: They are because you go through things with them that 825 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: you can't even put into words. Really, you can't you know, 826 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: share the deep emotional feeling that you go through with 827 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 2: these women, you know, year after year and tournament after tournament, 828 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: and just like a lot of people don't see behind 829 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: the scenes of how hard it really is, and you 830 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: don't understand it unless you're there and you're within the 831 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: squad and the staff. And so I think that I 832 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 2: will always have a specific bond and such a beautiful 833 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 2: bond with each and every one of these players and women, 834 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: and you know, you build these lifelong friendships, and I 835 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: think that is ultimately what is the best about our 836 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: group and players in the football community, is. 837 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: That you build these lifelong friendships. 838 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 2: And that's something that I am so grateful to take away, 839 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 2: not you know, the championships and this and that, it's 840 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: honestly about these friendships that you build with these women 841 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: who have these shared experiences that are you know, the 842 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: ups and the downs and the emotional, mental and physical 843 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: battles day in and day out is and what we 844 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: endure day to day is you know, you can't really 845 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 2: explain it unless you're there. And so that is why 846 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: it's so special. 847 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean the word battle kind of brings 848 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: to the forefront the equal pay lawsuit, which what a 849 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: huge moment recently for all of you women trying to 850 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: find you know, your footing in this space, to be 851 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: recognized and given the moment that you deserve. How did 852 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: that feel for you after all of these years? 853 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: Really great? It's definitely a step forward. 854 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: It's definitely a step forward, and I know that we 855 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: might not see all the benefits from it, but that's 856 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 2: something that we have always talked about. We want to 857 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: leave the game better than where we found it, and 858 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: so it's so important that our younger players and the 859 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 2: youth have the opportunity to dream big and to get 860 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: what they deserve. And so we'll keep fighting because we 861 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 2: do deserve more. And this is a win for all women. 862 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: It's not just about the US women's soccer team. It's 863 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 2: about women across all industries who are fighting the same 864 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: fight in their workplace, who are fighting for equity, equality, 865 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: respect in the workplace. So this is a step forward 866 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: and we are very happy about it, but we can 867 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: always be doing more and the work will never be done, 868 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: and so we will continue to fight every day, and 869 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: now we have to get down to the club level 870 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 2: and kind of have that same mentality in that same 871 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: fight going on in order to get what we deserve. 872 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean the equal rights definitely also extending 873 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 3: to a lot of the work that you do with 874 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 3: that LGBTQ community. I feel like I would be remiss 875 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: if I didn't ask you to maybe offer some sentiments 876 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 3: to someone who is struggling to get to this beautiful 877 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: place that you are in now, someone who feels so 878 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 3: accepted and loved by her community, embracing yourself authentically as 879 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 3: you are. 880 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 4: For these people that may not be quite. 881 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 3: At this stage just yet, what is it that you 882 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 3: tell them during their struggles? 883 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: But I think everything is going to be okay. I 884 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 2: think living your truth really opens so many doors. And 885 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: I think that it's okay to kind of take your 886 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 2: own journey. You don't need to have a time stamp 887 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: on when you express your sexuality or who you really 888 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: feel you are. And there's you know, no one saying 889 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 2: that there has to be this special moment of you 890 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 2: announcing it to the world. It's your own journey and 891 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 2: in your own time. It's okay to take that time 892 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: and to realize that this is about you. And also 893 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: you know, if anyone has a problem with it, then 894 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: it has a lot to do with them and very 895 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 2: little to do with you. So live your authentic life. 896 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 2: And once that, I think I can speak for Ash 897 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: as well. Once we kind of open that door and 898 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: we haven't looked back. It's just been an incredible experience 899 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: for us. And the way that I feel now is 900 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 2: just having that openness and honesty and authenticity to my 901 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 2: life has been so accepting. So on the other side 902 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: of the door, you will be so loved in our community. 903 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 2: Will it be accepting and can't wait for you to 904 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 2: jump through. 905 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 4: We love that. 906 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: We love that someone right now comes to your Instagram 907 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 3: page they see this amazing footballer, a mom, a wife, 908 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 3: joins of nine hundred and twenty two thousand people. When 909 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 3: you look in the mirror, what is it that you 910 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 3: see looking back at you? 911 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 2: I see a strong, confident woman who really cares about her. 912 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: Family and her friends and. 913 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: Wants what's best for the community that she lives in 914 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 2: every single day. 915 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 3: Right now, you have an opportunity to give the ALLI 916 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, going through that really big hurdle moment 917 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: asking herself all of the why a piece of advice. 918 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 3: Looking back on it right now, with the know how 919 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: and the wisdom and everything else that you have at 920 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 3: this moment, what do you tell her? 921 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we spoke about it before. 922 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 2: I think mainly, just live your life authentically and for you. 923 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: I think that if I could have have told myself 924 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago that it's okay to just be you, 925 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: I think I would have started living a lot earlier. 926 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: And two, I think take that big risk because it 927 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: could lead you to your dream job. 928 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 1: I might have four things. The third thing I would 929 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: say is just put your cell phones down and explore 930 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: the world. 931 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 2: I think we miss a lot now because we are 932 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: constantly scrolling through social media and we're really missing what 933 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 2: is so beautiful around us and those moments that we 934 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: will never be able to get back. And for control 935 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 2: what you're able to control, just that's your work ethic 936 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: and your attitude towards something, and I think if you 937 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 2: can keep that consistent and have that as a mindset, 938 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 2: then everyone will be in such a happier place. 939 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 4: What excites you right now? 940 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 2: Al my family, hopefully growing my family, and then our 941 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 2: NWSAWS season coming up. I'm so excited to be a 942 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 2: part of this new team and this amazing group of 943 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 2: people and footballers who have worked so hard to get 944 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 2: this team and a place to really play and bring 945 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 2: something special to this city. 946 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: And so I'm so pumped about that. 947 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 3: I'm pumped about it too because hopefully I can come watch. Yes, 948 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 3: you have amazing Yes, I'll have to come from Brooklyn. 949 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: I am so grateful for your time. I'm so grateful 950 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 3: for this conversation. How did the hurdlers follow along with you? 951 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? Give us all 952 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 3: of your details? 953 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so I keep everything really simple and all the same. 954 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: So Twitter and Instagram is Ali Creeker. That's it, so 955 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 2: follow me on there. I don't really do TikTok, but 956 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 2: we might be doing maybe TikTok soon. 957 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: Teasing a TikTok. 958 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast. 959 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 3: Another Hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next time.