WEBVTT - Joy 101: Ariana DeBose

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to the Joy one to one podcast. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine this for a second. You're a kid and you

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<v Speaker 1>love dancing so much that you go into a competition

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<v Speaker 1>called so you think you can dance, and you're nervous

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<v Speaker 1>and your palms are sweaty, and you get out on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and you wind up finishing twentyeth Okay, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you say to yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if this is for me? I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>I should keep doing this. Well, my next guest didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just keep doing that. My next guest wound up on

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway and was Tony nominated. My next guest wound up

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<v Speaker 1>in a musical, A Steven Spielberg musical, nominated for an

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<v Speaker 1>Academy Award, and won the Oscar. How about that. Ariana

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<v Speaker 1>Debos is the person who I am talking about. She

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<v Speaker 1>is an actress who grew up with a single mom,

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<v Speaker 1>loving dance. She danced since she was three, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those people who knew what her calling was.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine knowing so much that no matter how many times

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<v Speaker 1>people hit you down, no matter how many times someone

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<v Speaker 1>said no, not you, there are nineteen other people better

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<v Speaker 1>than you at this dance competition. Imagine that you come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and imagine that you get Tony nominated and you are

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar nominated and you win the Oscar. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many people who are in that category. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't win earlier in life, but as life rolls on,

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<v Speaker 1>their winnings come. So this is a fascinating conversation about resilience,

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<v Speaker 1>about bouncing back, about what is possible, about the heights

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<v Speaker 1>you can reach. All of these things Ariana Debos possesses.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope you enjoyed this conversation. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I met you many many years ago on the Today

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<v Speaker 1>Show when you were just kind of breaking out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've since become Tony nominated, Oscar winner and all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to just hit on something you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>You went on a solo vacation, and that to me

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<v Speaker 1>stands out because it takes courage, it takes moxie. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>did it for you, Like, tell me why you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to take a solo vacation and what that did for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I'd never been on one, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was I'm thirty five now, so I would have

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<v Speaker 2>been thirty four. Yeah, and I was like, this feels crazy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had this realization right before I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go there was like, all I've done is work. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that ever ever really taken a proper vacation. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm someone who believes in me time, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in finding those tools to help yourself unwind. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have them, but not outside of the context of what

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<v Speaker 2>it is I need to do for myself in order

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to keep working.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is fill the tank to work. Fill the tank,

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<v Speaker 1>fill the tank to work. Got it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I need to go fill the

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<v Speaker 2>tank to live. So I was like, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got a ticket, I got it, got a hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a hotel, and like walked around Athens.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, first you check into your hotel. There you are

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<v Speaker 1>in your room. You're hungry, yes, So do you go downstairs?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go to a restaurant? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I go for a walk for well, I opened the

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<v Speaker 2>bottle of rosece.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I ordered to be in my room and I had

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<v Speaker 2>a little many many moment for myself and then I

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<v Speaker 2>went for my nice little stroll and what was that

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<v Speaker 2>like fabulous? Well, it's the area was great, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just taking the architecture and energy. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I will have this panic op the gorgeous like and

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<v Speaker 2>then you I bopped into just a lovely restaurant that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the name of, but it looked so

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and idyllic and the people couldn't have been more lovely.

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<v Speaker 4>So you sat enjoyed me out and I literally just said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll have the special And it was this family cabbage

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<v Speaker 4>recipe with this beautiful lemon sauce on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, that sounds so good with sit with a

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<v Speaker 1>book with headphones, with anything, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just you that particular evening, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>me and I forced myself to like listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>space I was in and not be afraid of people

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<v Speaker 2>making eye contact, or not being afraid of having a conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>or not being afraid of the fact that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>speak Greek.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's so cool. Was were you anxious or

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<v Speaker 1>did you just kind of fall into it?

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<v Speaker 2>I fell into it, Like I think it's natural to

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of anxiety, but I am a

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<v Speaker 2>naturally curious person and I'm very curious as an artist,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just needed to sort of reacc climate. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a new space. It's okay for you to

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<v Speaker 2>feel the nerves of newness. Like there. That made sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what can happen. You just sparked a

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<v Speaker 1>memory for me, which is so interesting. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>was working at a small station in Florida, I had

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<v Speaker 1>just broken up with my boyfriend. I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I decided I was just going to drive from

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Myers n Apriles, which was my place, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>drove to I was going to drive to the key.

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<v Speaker 1>So I came to the first key, Key Largo, and

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<v Speaker 1>I found a hotel and I checked in and for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, I won't forget it. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>took a shower in the beautiful everything, the beautiful towels

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff, and I went and by then

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<v Speaker 1>it was late. It was almost like eleven at night,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to go for a walk. I went

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<v Speaker 1>for a walk. There was a fishing boat and they

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<v Speaker 1>said we're going. It was a full moon and they

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<v Speaker 1>said we're going on a midnight fishing thing. Will you

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<v Speaker 1>come we need one more to round out this group.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and I remember I was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was midnight. The moon was so bright, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was light on the water. We were fishing. The

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<v Speaker 1>first fish got a bud light or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Fierce.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we came back to shore. They set up a

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue and they grilled the fish that we caught, And

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered thinking, what an awesome option. Yeah, sometimes trying

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<v Speaker 1>something new is the best. What did you learn about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or was there something that came out from this

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<v Speaker 1>adventure for you?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a really good reminder that I'm capable of

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<v Speaker 2>doing things on my own, Yeah, and being fully independent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the higher I've traveled of the ischelons

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<v Speaker 2>of entertainment. It's like you're it's just kind of how

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<v Speaker 2>it feels. So your teams get bigger, you have more

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<v Speaker 2>people working on your behalf, and and it is in

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<v Speaker 2>theory really great to have other people doing so many

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<v Speaker 2>things for you so that you can just focus on

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<v Speaker 2>the craft. But I can be fully honest and acknowledging

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of made me a little lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very good observation.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, ooh, and I even and to this day,

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<v Speaker 2>even post that trip, I like really check myself on

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm starting to lay back right let other people

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<v Speaker 2>make decisions for you, Yeah, because it's really it's.

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<v Speaker 1>More than just doing it. It's like making decisions about

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<v Speaker 1>your life for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, being an active participant in the life that you

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<v Speaker 2>are creating, in the career that you want to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's such a nice notion to think that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's overnight success and then you know it just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of magically continues to happen. It doesn't. It takes a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work. And I do my best work when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aligned, like spiritually and living truly living and going

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<v Speaker 2>out and experiencing the spontaneity of life helps me stay aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>I love all of this. I love your story from

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<v Speaker 1>its inception, from the beginning, and I try to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you as a three year old who loves dance, You

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<v Speaker 1>and your mom, the two of you kind of against

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<v Speaker 1>the world. What was it like being part of that

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<v Speaker 1>duo of you and your mom.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the greatest. It was just the greatest. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we really had to rely on each other in different ways,

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<v Speaker 2>and in my childhood, I don't know that I was

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<v Speaker 2>fully cognizant of what that was. I just knew that

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<v Speaker 2>this was my mom and we had a special relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was supposed to take care of me. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did learn how to take care of her too,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that be energetically or just her teaching me how

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<v Speaker 2>to do my chores and me participating was part of

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<v Speaker 2>me helping to take care of her, and I loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved that part of it. And even when things

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<v Speaker 2>were tough, because there were plenty of moments in our

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<v Speaker 2>life together that were exceptionally challenging, we always found a

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<v Speaker 2>way through, and we found the way through together.

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<v Speaker 1>What made it challenging? What were the challenging bits?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my mom was a public school teacher, so

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<v Speaker 2>finances weren't always abundant, even though they should be. Please

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<v Speaker 2>pay our educators and please let them actually teach something

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<v Speaker 2>besides those really and authentic textbooks. But I digress and dance,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least the kind of dance I was doing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, studio Dancing at a studio was expensive, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I was really blessed, We were really blessed that

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<v Speaker 2>there were people that came into the path who would

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<v Speaker 2>would help us whether that be. You know. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>the day I walked into a dance stat of numer

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<v Speaker 2>and I met the owner and there was a television

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<v Speaker 2>that was playing the tape, Oh my god, the VHS

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<v Speaker 2>tape the guys. It's VHS tape of their recital from

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<v Speaker 2>the last year. And I was staring at it and

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing a number to that song Devil in

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Dress, which I don't know if young people

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<v Speaker 2>should really be dancing that song because they were very

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<v Speaker 2>very young. But I started figuring out the steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, watching this.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching it, and in about ten minutes, I had figured

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<v Speaker 2>out how to do a timestep. And I was five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's I learned. Was not normal for

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<v Speaker 2>a five year old. And she talked to me and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, had you ever learned to do that before?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I just did it right then.

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<v Speaker 2>And she turned to my mind. She was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>would like to help you. I would like to teach her,

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<v Speaker 2>and so, you know, they essentially kind of scholarshiped me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the beginning of me learning what uh

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<v Speaker 2>not what generosity looked like, you know, because she just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to help help me learn. Her name was Doriy

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<v Speaker 2>Lightham Benners. Yeah, she was my first sort of introduction

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<v Speaker 2>of generosity. I believe she's still living in New Vern,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have music in your house?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? How?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean that came to you? Still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to comprehend. Is that just something inside you that just come.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always loved music. We played music in our home

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and we were living with my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 2>and that would have been like pre five. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of a lot of Roddy McDowell. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever heard of Ronnie McDowell, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was heavily influenced by Elvis. So he had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Ronnie McDowell, a lot of Elvis, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>anything from the Motown record label. Yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sixties music, a lot of beach music. So I loved

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<v Speaker 2>like big sounds, and I love strings, and I love harmonies,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like, you know, this sounds so crazy, But

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<v Speaker 2>when we would go visit my great grandmother, who was

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<v Speaker 2>alive until I was about I think I think I

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<v Speaker 2>must have been in seventh grade. So I was very

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<v Speaker 2>grateful to have that relationship with her. Her name was

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<v Speaker 2>Lorena Wheeler Henry, and she was a fabulous lady. But

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<v Speaker 2>we would go visit her at her house in Atkinson,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, and nine times out of ten on Sundays

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<v Speaker 2>there were reruns of Lawrence Well playing, and I really,

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<v Speaker 2>like I should have known, I was queer. I really

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<v Speaker 2>loved watching all the beautiful ladies dance and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>of course, it wasn't American Bandstand, but I also loved that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like I realized, or in my adulthood, I realized that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I began to love just watching people dance and

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<v Speaker 2>the joy it brought them and how comfortable they felt

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<v Speaker 2>and they moved, yeah, when they moved, And I loved

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<v Speaker 2>watching how their dresses moved or or I'd ask questions

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<v Speaker 2>like why is she wearing that she can't move her legs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little too tight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. So for you to go on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>so you think you can dance and to come in

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<v Speaker 1>you made it through the first round, but you were

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were eliminated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, eliminated first week host.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. So here's my question, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who might have faced that elimination no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what the competition or whatever it was, would have thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe this was something in my head

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<v Speaker 1>that I was good at. But in reality, there are

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<v Speaker 1>already nineteen other kids were better than me on this

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<v Speaker 1>one single show. How am I gonna make it? Yet

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<v Speaker 1>you go on to be Tony nominated and win an Oscar?

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<v Speaker 1>So at that moment, why did you continue?

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<v Speaker 2>That is such a good question. It's never been posed

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<v Speaker 2>to me like that, because I knew I was good,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that is actually the long and the short of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was good. This just wasn't my room.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I'm really honest, kind of from the jump

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<v Speaker 2>like it was something I really wanted to try and

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<v Speaker 2>to pursue. And you know, like my mom would like

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<v Speaker 2>always say, against my better judgment, I let her go,

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<v Speaker 2>but she knew I needed to try. Uh huh. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think as grateful as I am for that experience,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm grateful for it in so many other ways because

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<v Speaker 2>my instincts were kind of blaring from the moment I

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<v Speaker 2>got to Los Angeles and I really liked the contestants

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, but there was just something about that space

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<v Speaker 2>for me that I was never able to relax, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was always sitting forward, and now that I've continued

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<v Speaker 2>my spiritual journey, I realized that's my instincts like kicking in,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to tell me this may not be for me, right,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't It's okay, this isn't your room, and that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be a room for someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the first room that fit right for you

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<v Speaker 1>that you were like, this is right, this is exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in New York, I was nineteen, and I

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<v Speaker 2>walked in, mind you, I didn't accept this job, but

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in to audition for a non equity production

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<v Speaker 2>of a chorus line and Bioorcally was conducting the auditions,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't have been more alive. I was sweating,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was just feeling like I dance so

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<v Speaker 2>big and I've never felt more like It's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to say unstoppable, but it's not the same

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<v Speaker 2>as in Vincent, But in that moment, I felt larger

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<v Speaker 2>than lie why.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you turn it down? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I got offered to bring it on the musical.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized it was like I had it was the

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<v Speaker 2>first time as a new adult because I considered myself

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<v Speaker 2>a new adult where I had to use my critical

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<v Speaker 2>thinking skills, and I really weighed what each job could

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<v Speaker 2>bring me, and the reality of the situation was Bringing

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<v Speaker 2>On presented an opportunity for even more growth because Bring

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<v Speaker 2>It On had never had a Broadway production, And not

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<v Speaker 2>only would I get to learn from an incredible director

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<v Speaker 2>choreographer who felt like a new age Fossy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Andy blancam Mueller, but I would get to work to

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<v Speaker 2>help create a musical that might have a life after this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd get to learn how to make a musical,

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<v Speaker 2>participate and collaborate, and it potentially had even more job

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity than this one show that I love so much

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<v Speaker 2>and I still have yet to actually do a professional

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<v Speaker 2>production of it could offer me at that time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really hard. It was really hard to say no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go do a course signed with Bioercley.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of me is like, what were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? But look how your path was just right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about your spiritual journey a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>which is clearly your north star. It guides you. There

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<v Speaker 1>are things pulling you. I'm sure it's like money convenience.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems like a good thing by all those check boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's our gut, which I think sometimes can

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<v Speaker 1>mislead you because it's filled with all of your past

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes too. You're like, I don't know't want that again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have some other your spirits guiding you. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you decide? How does your spirit help you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of navigate the road.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny. Have you ever seen that movie

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<v Speaker 2>Fools Russian?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was like, it's a deep cut. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen this movie. But Salma's character talks a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about signs, like she's very, very Catholic. But she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>the signs are everywhere. It's a sign. And I used

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<v Speaker 2>to think that I was just being like really superstitious.

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<v Speaker 2>But my spirituality, of course, comes comes from a practice,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it mean meditation or writing. And like I do, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm queen of a crystal. I have them all over

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<v Speaker 2>my home, and I give myself the time to truly

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<v Speaker 2>like heal, and like when I dance, I see and

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<v Speaker 2>I see in colors and I feel in colors. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's all part of my spirit thing that I got

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<v Speaker 2>going on. I don't know, but there are signs everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah too. And I don't think that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that that it's convoluted to believe in that. But when

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<v Speaker 2>my my solar plexus start going off, yeah, and my

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<v Speaker 2>instincts kick in, and I also see the universe show

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<v Speaker 2>me something, or play a song for me, or show

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<v Speaker 2>me a photo of this thing that I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>bringing back to life. And I'm walking down the street

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a meeting tomorrow. I'm like, that's a sign.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like, I just needed that that quick

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<v Speaker 2>affirmation that that that I'm this is the right choice

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<v Speaker 2>for me in this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the right pan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the right pan.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that work for the Donna Summer Musical?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah. She was just showing up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't escape her, didn't want to either, but yeah, her,

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<v Speaker 2>her her songs, her call it her canon. The Summer

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon kept just playing and I I mean, sure, there's

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<v Speaker 2>the algorithm these days, and like your phone is listening

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<v Speaker 2>to you probably, and it's very scary. But even just

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<v Speaker 2>when I was out and about, i'd walk into a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant and that's what was playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So have jobs always come knocking. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're turning down things. You're following your wisdom. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have a handout saying, you know, I need

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<v Speaker 1>this now or I'm in a dry spell. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever have periods where you weren't working and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>there's no shame in no. I I haven't had that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only think of one period of time. But

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<v Speaker 2>I actively chose to take a break for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was between my second Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>Show and my third what were those two?

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<v Speaker 2>Motown and Pippin' And it was around the time this

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<v Speaker 2>is twofold go with me here?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was doing Motown, I also realized there

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<v Speaker 2>was something else in me that I wanted to explore.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was like, oh, I have this is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful job. I'm learning so much. But I also was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's more in the tank. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>have more to offer to I had chosen to start

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<v Speaker 2>doing shows like I just off the whim emailed I

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<v Speaker 2>believe was Joe's pub I don't know. In my brain,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a really great idea, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Hi, my name is Ario out to both

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<v Speaker 2>and I would really like to play a show in

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<v Speaker 2>your venue. Can you please let me know what you

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<v Speaker 2>have available, just full out ask for what I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened they responded were like, here's all of our availability.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So yeah, so you went to Joe's Pub.

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<v Speaker 2>So I played Joe's Pub and I would have and

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<v Speaker 2>the experience of it was so thrilling but also terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, what was I thinking? I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have to put butts in seats? How am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that? I don't have a following, like and

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<v Speaker 2>it was different because like Instagram and the followers of

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<v Speaker 2>it all hadn't really taken off yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were playing Joe's Pub, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I was playing Joe's Pub, and I was figuring out, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go and talk to people. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to promote myself. And I realized that. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm highly uncomfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't how did that go as an experience and

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<v Speaker 1>what was the like, what was a show at Joe's.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun, It was really fun. It was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of all over the place, and that's looking back on it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, that is kind of in line

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<v Speaker 2>with me and my taste, Like I have very eclectic

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<v Speaker 2>taste in music. We did a version of Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 2>what was It? That also feels like so many years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did a Anina Simone tune and it was

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<v Speaker 2>me and three of my friends, and I deliberately wanted

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<v Speaker 2>us all to be so different. But then I also

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<v Speaker 2>turned around and did a version of Annie Lennox is

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<v Speaker 2>why all? I just put it all in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>When you lin Manuel was a huge influence on you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you said somewhere like it was so

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<v Speaker 1>fun to see someone who was wildly successful and also kind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you knew that those two things could coach.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't exist. They really can't.

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<v Speaker 1>See someone who showed you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he's a ball of sunshine, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's just like this big adult nurse, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that helps them both hold on to his joy and

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<v Speaker 2>his curiosity. That doesn't mean things don't get challenging for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they have in the past, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>I think watching him navigate his own stardom and maintain

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<v Speaker 2>his own sense of self and creativity and find new

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<v Speaker 2>ways to kind of double down on his relationships, like

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<v Speaker 2>his friendships, Like that's has been very inspirational to me

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<v Speaker 2>to because it's challenging because you're walking your own journey,

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<v Speaker 2>because it can feel very isolating when you're having a

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<v Speaker 2>moment of success and people do what people do, and

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 2>sometimes your success makes him uncomfortable, or sometimes people shift

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>how they behave around you, or perhaps something shifting in you.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be in all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's kind of I think he'd be uncomfortable being

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<v Speaker 2>called a north Star, but he's definitely like an inspiration

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<v Speaker 2>point that you can do these things and it be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>When Steven Spielberg calls yeah and says, hey, Ariana DeVos,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like you to be in West Side Story. We

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>want you to play Anita, the role made famous by

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<v Speaker 1>Rita Morano. That's a big That was a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Ass Yeah did you say I just did the I

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<v Speaker 2>still gulp really big and my eyes get very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That phone call? I mean that was a life changer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was And did you were like you said? With Courseline,

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<v Speaker 1>that's been made, there's a big shoes. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>people have preconceived notions. Was there any part of you

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<v Speaker 1>that was thinking, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was terrified of this, absolutely terrifying for so

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 2>many different reasons. But there also was something intuitively there

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<v Speaker 2>as well, Like my instincts were alarm bells in the

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<v Speaker 2>right way, like, girl, don't miss the exit. Take the exit,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to take this exit, you need to take

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>that phone call, you need to say yeah. Because I

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 2>had fought it, I've talked about that a lot, like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to audition. I didn't want to, but

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<v Speaker 2>then once I got there, I was like, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>feels really right. Yeah, okay, so all of these things

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm afraid of, clearly I need to experience that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny, I realized now it takes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of courage, and courage is not the absence of fear,

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.959
<v Speaker 2>but there's something bigger than it, you know, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>is really courage, and I'm very proud that I was

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 2>courageous enough to do it, to walk the path. But

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's also it's very hard to say, noticed Stevens.

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>He's very persuasive, So was hesive with you honestly at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, Like I had had a long well what

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I what felt like a long audition process, and we'd

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 2>just had a very long final callback day and so

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd spent all day with him, and I felt like

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>we kind of had found we found away with each other.

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 2>How do you find a way with Steven Spielburg. But

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I felt good about my experience of him. And when

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 2>I got that phone call, I was at a nail salon,

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't really in a space to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not. I actually really was in a space to

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>have conversation. But I just remember him talking and I

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>remember him saying, I would like I would like to

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>ask you to be may Anita. And I never forgot

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that he asked me to do it. Yeah, as opposed

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.400
<v Speaker 2>to telling me I was going to be it for him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That felt very different to me. And of course I

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>said yes, and I'm very glad I said yes. But

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 2>that was that was crazy.

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow, a phone call at the nail salon.

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>At the nail salon, okay, and I've really just gone

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>because I'd been so busy trying to prep for my

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 2>big final callback that my I was doing the Donna

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Semma musical at the time, and my nails were like Ratty. Yeah,

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>and I felt like there have been a lady in

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the front row who kept staring at my ratty nails

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, cool, I can't do that. So

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I was in between shows at the nail salon, just

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 2>trying not to be judged.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were auditioning while you were doing a musical.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>By the way, for anybody who knows, doing a musical

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>or anything on Broadway is screwling.

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's eight shows a week. It's two on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and two on Saturday, Is that right?

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, normally you can. Then there are some crazy shows

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that are like you're gonna do a five show weekend.

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do a two show Saturday, two shows Sunday,

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>and then you're gonna cap it off with a Monday

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>show too.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. But just imagine the time, energy and effort and

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>heart for someone who loves with their craft so much.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>It goes into it. So in between that you were auditioning,

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you get that gig. So fast forward to you're a Wow,

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>everyone's talking about you. How crazy are you? On the

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Today Show? We're like, girl, ah, you're so excited to

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>see you as an Oscar nominee. Than an Oscar winner.

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>You have an Academy award. Wait what I know?

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I know, hi bananas.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to your life as a result of that

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Academy award? Did it shift?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah?

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>How so?

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it shifted in lots of positive ways. And

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I think some of the greatest things that happened to

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>us also rip us apart too joyfully. But uh, it'll

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>show you where your foundations are not so solid.

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell me about that. That's very interesting.

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I and it's funny. I meditate on it a lot,

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>not just that like moment in time, but just about

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>how these exceptionally joyful things like winning an Oscar can

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 2>be so euphoric. But it also, at least in regards

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to my own experience, and invited a lot of opinion.

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I had to go through the process of kind of

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>understanding that success can make you change if you let it.

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I worked very hard to try and keep my own,

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>my own compass, very strong and very clear. But that

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that everyone around you has the best intentions.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 2>And when you're a loyalist like I am, sometimes it's

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>very hard to cut chords. But I've also learned in

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>my adulthood that you can cut chords lovingly, but that

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>it was really challenging, and there was a moment where

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>my own compass felt really cloudy, and I was like,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>why am I doing these things? Why am I saying

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>yes to this job? What was the point of that?

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Why did I think that and not be and that

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>sort of It's interesting because I think you can question

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>why you said yes to something in the immediate and

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>you can also question it in the aftermath because how

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.239
<v Speaker 2>our business is built. You can make the thing and

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>then it takes time for it to come out, and

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>not everything is going to be received how you receive

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>it in your heart, and that's okay. I actually am

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>someone who has made a lot of peace with that.

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm specifically talking about that sensation is I

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>would make the decision to do something and then suddenly

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like hmm, but I didn't have the courage

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know what, actually I'm wrong. Actually, let

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>me let me course correct. I didn't do it instead

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>because I had this notion of and also it's something

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>that I learned from childhood, like you honor your commitments

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and you see it through. You said you were going

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>to do something you need to do it. But I

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>do think there are these moments in your life where

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 2>honoring your commitments. You have to honor your commitment to yourself. Yes,

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, yes, and that is that's tricky sometimes.

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So after an Oscar, when do all the scripts come

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>rolling off the truck? Do people come up and say

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>how about this? How about this? How about this?

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Or?

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Which is so funny because I interviewed Halle Berry not

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>too long ago, and she said, when she won her Oscar,

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>she said, she sort of thought that was going to happen. Yeah,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and she said, and it didn't and she was surprised.

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>So everybody's got a different experience what was yours.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I did have opportunity, however, I would say I got

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>offered a lot of what I felt like, we're limiting

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>parts because I was known for, you know, the conversation

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>around my words. Season had a lot to do with

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>my own identity. I was offered a lot of queer parts,

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of lesbian parts, a lot of which there's

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with that that it's great. I love us.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I was offered, you know, many Spanish speaking roles, even

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 2>though I spoke very openly about being a noose Kid. Yeah,

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I it and I love the language,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>but my journey with the language I'm learning. Maybe I'm

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>not ready to do that for myself. So but what

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that showed me was they were paying attention to the conversation,

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 2>but I hadn't teach them about my artistry. Even though

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I think Westside Story is one of the best examples

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>of my own artistry and what I'm capable of it,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I I don't know that I received opportunities that were

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>always holy. How do you say wholly appropriate for my talent.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not someone who only wants to make movie musicals,

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not an artist that wants to play characters

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>that have walked paths so closely to my own identity.

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>They would you?

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Otherwise what's the fun of being an actor?

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Ye?

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, I learned from my craft every day, and if

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>there's if I'm playing parts that are just basically me

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>joining up myself, honestly, I can go teach dance. Something

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm contemplating and Debbie Allen, any openings, I.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Like your just how you navigate life just from listening.

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to the work part, but the other parts

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>so fascinating. To me, So, how do you start and

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>end your day? I feel like the book ends of

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a day are pretty important. How you're gonna how the

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff in between goes? So what do you do? Tell me?

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel like good question.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>What do I do? Open your eyes?

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I open my eyes. I take five deep breaths. That

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>that is something that's become very important to me to

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>assess the state of my physical body.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>And I try to very deliberately put my feet on

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the ground to ground myself. And that is really the

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>morning ritual. I grab a daily stone. I love that

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and I walk around the house with it in my

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>morning and just like feel its energy as I'm doing

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>my little chores. That's the morning.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you a coffee person, water person.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Tea person. I'm a tea person. I do have at

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>least two cups of tea in the morning.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Black.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I like black tea. Wow, I'm so strange. Everything's fine, okay.

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I I try not to immediately grab electronics sometimes it's inevitable.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>But if I can have, if I can safeguard a

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>little chunk of time that is electronics free, that's great.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>But my evening, I think is more interesting to me.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I go for a walk. And I love sunset and

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>sundown because I feel like as the sun is setting

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>sort of, it tells it's telling me to chill out too.

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's become very important to me to like stay

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>in tune with nature. I mean, given everything that's going

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>on in the world, the best thing I can do

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 2>for myself is to try and stay in tune with her, right,

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 2>So that's very sacred to me. And then I do

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 2>love a tea at night. I love my Moon Brew

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Vitamin Sleepy gummies and I take those at least two

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 2>hours before I day and then sleep. I sleep right

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 2>through the night. Good.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I know this is not an ad.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Are I love them gummies? Jesus sorry?

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you an early riser?

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Depends? I'm in a cycle right now where I love sleep.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh good, Okay, Like I love sleep.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 3>But.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Like post, if I'm coming off of a work trip,

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>nine times out of ten for the next month, I

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>will probably be up around five point forty five.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Carlisle. Oh yeah, where you're going

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>to be performing Joe's Pup. You called up and said, hey,

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 1>pick me, and they were like, well sure. Carlisle is

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>one of those iconic New York spots that people have

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>played there, from Sinatra all just through all of them.

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about you and the Carlisle and what you're

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be doing and what that's about.

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm really jazzed about it. Yeah, I said it.

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm jazzed. It's the type of venue I've always wanted

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to play. There's something very romantic about the Carlisle to me,

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny I think about this just came to me,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 2>but it's a truth. Like Anita had her American dream,

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>like her version of the American dream, and I realized,

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 2>like part of my American dream was like playing a

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>place like the Carlisle. Like that's what I could like

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>imagine for myself, and I wanted to like it'd be

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>a smaller spot, it'd be like moody and wear my

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty dress. Now, when I was first dringing that dream,

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea I'd have an undercut and break

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>that would.

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Be my go to.

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't feel more like in my body like

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm a very and even from the awards circuit to now,

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've lived so many lives. So I'm

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>excited to be playing the carlat a moment where I

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>can bring the fullness of that life if I so

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>choose to, which I will, because that's part of what

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>makes me a good artist. But I'm excited to experiment

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 2>marked the great Mark G. Meadows is going to be

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>my music director. He's so fabulous. We did a moment

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>at the Freely Fest, which is a very cool music

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 2>festival that celebrates the First Amendment and the freedoms that

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 2>it protects, especially for artists. But we sang Strange Fruit.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>He helped me put together a beautiful arrangement of Strange

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Fruit to talk about the importance of not only the song,

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 2>but that moment in time and how it's That song

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 2>is one of the greatest I think examples of how

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 2>government interference can display into artistry. However, I digress. I

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>absolutely fell in love with him, and so we're putting

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>together a lovely jazz trio and I'm still deciding my

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 2>set list. So if you have, if you have requests,

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<v Speaker 2>I am all ears, but I'm sort of excited to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of take it down and storytell a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I'm in a space where I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to put my feelings in the song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love it. September twenty ninth, By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty night, we open.

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<v Speaker 2>We played through October third.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you do. That's a good night.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Five nights at the Carlos.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal. That's a big deal. You're also

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Scarpetta is another thing you got cooking. You and Jamie

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Lee Curtis have a vibe.

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 2>We do best.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>What is Tell me about that relationship because Scarpetta involves

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Nicole kidman Jamie Lee Curtis, who's been pushing for this

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>product forever, and you pop up in this and Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Lee was tapping you. Tell me about about your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, our relationship sort of started when I handed her

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 2>her Oscar, which sounds so crazy, insane, because the only reason, yeah,

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the only reason I was Therapi was because I've won

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>a year prior. Things you don't, things you only dream

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<v Speaker 2>of saying. But yeah, our relationship stems from that moment.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.479
<v Speaker 2>And we met that night, and like you go through

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the backstage and like it's cool. I got to witness

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>someone else go through what I went through in the

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>immediacy after winning an Oscar, and I just it was

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<v Speaker 2>so special to watch her walk that path, and I

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>think she walked it really beautifully and bravely, and I

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.479
<v Speaker 2>just enjoyed her spirit, you know. And as we've gotten

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>to know each other's like, she's lived quite the life.

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>She's exceptionally why as she is joyful. The amount of

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 2>joy that woman puts out in the world is really something,

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 2>even when she may be feeling not so great. And

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, we recognize that in each other at times.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Is that you can still be a beacon of light,

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes putting more light into the world can help

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 2>you refill your cup as it's happening. But that's where

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>that originates. Nicole, Jamie and I make up this really

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 2>cute little family trio of women Italian women. I don't know,

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 2>but watch the show. It's pretty fun. And Jamie Lee

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Curtis plays my mother, Nicole Kidman plays my aunt. The

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>show is called Scarpetta. Nicole Kidman plays Scarpetta. Everybody, Let's

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>keep it real. Nicole Is does that another show. But

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it's so fun to hang out with these women and

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 2>learn from them, and I look at it as another

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>learning opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you. I feel like a good trait

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you have is you are a good Picker like you

0:39:58.280 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>pick good people.

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<v Speaker 2>In your story.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Picker's not broken. But I think having being able to

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<v Speaker 1>select good people in your circle is one of the

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>most important things you'll do. It is like, I mean,

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I pick good friends and I and

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I know my life is going to be good because

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I make sure that the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in my orbit. And they say, you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>the sum total of the five people you spend the

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<v Speaker 1>most time with. So choose your friends wisely. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>your two am phone call?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, three people just came to mind, which is great,

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>lucky you. I consider them all best friends. One would

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>be my best friend from high school who was my

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 2>prom date. His name Jonathan. I have a friend Lauren,

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 2>who is a budding Broadway producer, and she's brilliant and

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>we've known each other for maybe four years, but we

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>have the same birthday, oh, and a connection and a

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 2>connection we really get each other. And then my friend Morgan,

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>who I met on Scarpetta. Actually, isn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, by the way, I love these kind of friendships. Yeah,

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>because you can make dear friends all through life. It

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it doesn't have to be your childhood friend. Or

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>your friends from school or whatever, or even your first job.

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I have dear friends from every chapter of

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 2>my life. I was just watching the new Jennifer Garner

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 2>TV show, and it feels like she chose friends from

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>different chapters of her life while she's going through this

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>big life moment. And I'll tell you what, there's nothing

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like a big life moment. When my mom passed. The

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>people that were around me, and there were really five

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 2>dominant people, those are my people.

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<v Speaker 1>When was your mom the proudest of you?

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man? She was proud of me my whole life.

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I think she was proud every day that I survived,

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a world that can be so big,

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<v Speaker 2>up against people who feel different or who are described

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>as different, she was proud of the life I was living.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean we didn't have our moments, of course,

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 2>because that's mothers and daughters. But she was proud of

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 2>what how I was walking through the world. I think

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>she was shockedish when I you rewind, If you rewind

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>in like freees frame on her face, you can see it.

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Who I remember hugging her and she was like, you

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>got to get up there?

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Were you able? You said that there were struggles. What

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>was the what was the funnest thing you got to

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>do for your mom in terms of physically giving her something?

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, and she was someone who like didn't really

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 2>want gifts, Like she wasn't really like that.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>That's not her language.

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't her language. Oh my gosh. It was more

0:42:55.480 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>trips for us like that we out to a space

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 2>where it's like I couldn't give her a gift that

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 2>would really like encompass the moment, but I could give

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 2>her an experience. And she was my date. Was she

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>was my dake to the Oscars. But she had the

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 2>most fun at HAMILTONI night when Hamilton won a lot

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 2>of Tony's and we went to the after party and

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 2>lor she Anda Jabos was living her whole life. She

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 2>was dancing with Common. Pretty sure she was flirting with Common.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 2>Sorry if he was with somebody, but she was having

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>a great time. She was like, that's Mariska Hartitaine then

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>for sorry sake, But at some point we were all

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>dancing and Marisia like said hi to my mom, and

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 2>she was like this is great.

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I like this.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Like she had a good time wherever she went, and

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that was the greatest.

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I see all that. So she did good. So

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>last question before we go, I always asked my guests,

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>what's bringing you joy these days?

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>The little things. The little things are bringing me joy

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 2>these days, honestly, like every day that I get to

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 2>wake up and open my eyes and take five breaths,

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 2>that brings me such joy, the walks, noticing the flowers,

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>like it really is. The ordinary things.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>To singing bring you joy.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Of course it does. Sing and I've catched myself doing

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 2>it without realizing I'm doing it.

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you did in here when we're.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Like to me, singing now is talking like I will.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I do this with my friends. Sometimes I don't realize

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm singing a song that I'm singing them a song

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>that describes how I feel about them.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, sing me a song.

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 2>You are so beautiful to me. I love you.

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I thank you for that, all right, Arianni. Since you

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and I are on the same kind of zen, We're

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>both in this kind of zen sphere. I have an

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>app called Joy one on one, in a company called

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Joy one on one, and we have a lot of

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 1>great practitioners. So Blana Snow is gonna just bring us home.

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>We've just got three minutes, so we're all going to

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>chill out together. Should we try it?

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>We should?

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's try.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Wana Snow, and today I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>show you an evidence based breathwork practice that is proven

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 3>to help you regulate your nervous system when you are

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>in a high pressure moment, and it's called a psychological sigh.

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 3>It's very simple and very powerful. You breathe into the

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 3>nose two times and you'll exhale it out once through

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>the mouth. Are you ready to try it with me?

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:42.479
<v Speaker 3>Breathe into your nose and then again and then sigh out.

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Let's try that again, breathing into the nose.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Keep going so you can go slower.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go fast.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I find that going slower helps our body

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 3>catch up to the information our body's nervous system communicates

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>through breath. So when we do a sigh as an

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 3>exhale as a.

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Relief, it tells.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Our brain and body that we are okay, that we're safe,

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 3>and that we can let go. And that's why so

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 3>often when we feel relief, we have a.

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Sigh of relief.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 3>So let's try it again together, breathing into the nose

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and again. I find that breathing out with a sound

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.280
<v Speaker 3>of relief has an.

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Extra working power.

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.919
<v Speaker 3>There's something about sound that also communicates to our brain

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 3>and body that we have even more relief than we thought.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Try it again, breathing into the nose and again.

0:46:58.960 --> 0:46:59.959
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it one more time.

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>This time, as you exhale, not only do you do

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 3>a sigh of relief, but you'll also release it with

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 3>your mouth with a sound, and then you will let.

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Your body feel the relief.

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Just like that.

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 3>I want to try it together, breathing into the nose

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 3>and again. Ah, it feels so much better. This is

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 3>a practice that you can do in the moment. This

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 3>is a practice. You can go to the bathroom, you

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 3>can go to the corner and do it. Nobody notices

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>or recognizes that it's a practice to relax your nervous system, and.

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Those that do they'll say, oh, good, idea, I should

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>do it too.

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful, easy release for tension and stress, and

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:55.240
<v Speaker 3>it is proven to soften your body, release your tension,

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.760
<v Speaker 3>and help get you back into a rest and digest state.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this was helpful for you today, and I

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 3>hope that you'll come back to this often whenever you

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.439
<v Speaker 3>need it. All right, I'll see you next time.

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Malana Snow, I'm so good. Love you girl, Love you.

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for doing that with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mustay I mistake