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Speaker 5: We've got Patrick No, C Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam
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Speaker 5: which means it's a Talking Tuesday.
Speaker 3: On the phone line right this second eight eight eight
Speaker 3: eighty five five.
Speaker 5: Two two nine seven, and dial up a little bit
Speaker 5: of Talking Cowboys like it's nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 6: Dial it up, dying it baby, like an AOL messenger, like.
Speaker 3: A deep ball from Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: Oh look dude, yeah no.
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk.
Speaker 6: No someone. That's a big Tie Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Big Tie Tuesday, everybody, all time.
Speaker 6: People had some hot takes yesterday in the comments about
Speaker 6: the tie and whether or not the one that Patrick
Speaker 6: was wearing. Yes, that's the tie that I mean. It
Speaker 6: didn't the color coordinate exactly to the shirt that you
Speaker 6: were wearing.
Speaker 7: It it made to the gradient was a little just
Speaker 7: a little bit taste, but that was the point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little long sook. But the comments were
Speaker 6: saying more so that, like, there's a reason why ties exist.
Speaker 6: If you're not good enough to win, you're not terrible
Speaker 6: enough to lose.
Speaker 3: That's what you have it for. Maybe I don't know
Speaker 3: if I agree. I would rather have a winner and
Speaker 3: a loser.
Speaker 1: We saw.
Speaker 5: I mean, just look at college football over the weekend.
Speaker 5: Some of the best games in the country. I mean
Speaker 5: that Virginia Florida State game was just insane. I don't
Speaker 5: know if I would want the crowd to rush the
Speaker 5: field that quickly because oh my goodness, there were like
Speaker 5: twelve people that got injured in the game.
Speaker 6: Wasn't over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was wid it, But it was an incredible
Speaker 3: game to watch, yeah for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Tennessee Mississippi State was a good game
Speaker 5: that went into overtime. There were just a couple of
Speaker 5: different two overtime games that you just watched and was like, man,
Speaker 5: this is great. And like I said with Tommy yesterday
Speaker 5: when he was playing Devil's Advocate with it, I get
Speaker 5: why ties are there because there are games between the
Speaker 5: Panthers and the Steelers that go ten ten and it's
Speaker 5: just gross and you got to just get it over with.
Speaker 3: But in a game like that, you want to see
Speaker 3: a winner.
Speaker 6: At some point, we're gonna win a big playoff game.
Speaker 6: I'm going to storm the field from the press box.
Speaker 3: Just couldn't die down there. Oh your parachute.
Speaker 1: Want to do the whole flying squirrel thing?
Speaker 3: Squirrel, I need one of our our video ai.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fair, somebody needs to get on like whatever the
Speaker 5: the chat GPT or the Google Gemini or whatever it
Speaker 5: all is and just make a video of Josh flying
Speaker 5: squirrel around at and t stand.
Speaker 3: Yes, please do that. It would make our.
Speaker 6: Face with like the big shadow that goes like we
Speaker 6: need the sound effix. Also it goes from a small
Speaker 6: shadow to like, I really I don't.
Speaker 3: Have the sound offish man, We'll give us a call.
Speaker 5: Even Cowboys and Packers tying at forty in week four, Patrick,
Speaker 5: we have a pretty hefty list of news and notes
Speaker 5: coming out of locker room yesterday, A couple of injury updates,
Speaker 5: and it is week five, which means if you were
Speaker 5: on IR previously correct, you can be taken off.
Speaker 7: IR correct and shouts out to Josh Flying Squirrel Roderiguez.
Speaker 7: All right, so first of all, before we get to
Speaker 7: the IR, let's talk about the players that suffered some
Speaker 7: injury coming out of that tie with the Packers. Malik
Speaker 7: Hooker left the game with a toe injury. I spoke
Speaker 7: with Malik in the locker room yesterday and I asked him,
Speaker 7: I said, Hey, what happened on that play? Did you know,
Speaker 7: jam your toe into the turf accidentally on that particular
Speaker 7: coverage And he said no, Actually, as it turns out,
Speaker 7: this toe issue has been something he's been dealing with
Speaker 7: all season.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, he.
Speaker 7: Said, there's you know, some some ligament issues he's dealing
Speaker 7: with there. And what happened on that particular play. It
Speaker 7: wasn't so much that he jam just toe into the turf,
Speaker 7: but when he went to plant and go on that
Speaker 7: in that particular way, on that particular coverage, it completely
Speaker 7: reaggravated it. So he did not have a boot on yesterday,
Speaker 7: but he was walking with a noticeable limp. There's some discomfort,
Speaker 7: some pain there in that toe, so I I asked him.
Speaker 7: This was before Stephen Jones spoke with one on five
Speaker 7: three the fan yesterday at three o'clock. I asked Malik,
Speaker 7: I said, well, you know your MRI tests. Are you
Speaker 7: still waiting for him? He said, I am, but it
Speaker 7: might be a couple of weeks. That was his wording.
Speaker 7: Schotenheimer then not long after thereafter said exactly that it
Speaker 7: could be a couple of weeks, but they're still to
Speaker 7: determine what the actual prognosis is. But yes, Shoddy this
Speaker 7: say he would miss some time obviously, what does that do?
Speaker 7: That thrust a guy? Let one yay Thomas at center
Speaker 7: stage and maybe try to work some Marquis belt therein
Speaker 7: as well. But another guy, another starter, going to be
Speaker 7: down for the Cowboys for at least a couple weeks.
Speaker 7: On Elite hooker Tyler Geyton, he left the game with
Speaker 7: a concussion, did not return. I spoke with him after
Speaker 7: the game. He told me that it was confirmed he
Speaker 7: did have a concussion. He obviously wants to return to
Speaker 7: the field for this trip to New York against the Jets. However,
Speaker 7: that is completely not up to him and is not
Speaker 7: up to the Cowboys. It is up to the independent
Speaker 7: NFL neurologists. He has to get cleared from the protocol
Speaker 7: before where he's allowed to return.
Speaker 1: Uh, and that's pretty much that.
Speaker 7: This is not one of those things where and I
Speaker 7: think I saw someone I didn't reply to it on
Speaker 7: Twitter because don't piss me off. Someone was basically intimating
Speaker 7: that Tyler Guidon because he suffered a concussion. Uh, there
Speaker 7: was some sort of conditioning issue there. I don't know
Speaker 7: how condition yourself against suffering a concussion. That's actually not
Speaker 7: how the human body works. But nonetheless, concussions are concussions.
Speaker 6: Needs to read more you know.
Speaker 3: Words talking about those mental yeah yeah, right, brain due.
Speaker 6: He's gotta get that the weight with the strap on,
Speaker 6: the talking about one. Yeah, like concussions.
Speaker 7: Concussions are concussions. So we'll see if he clears the
Speaker 7: protocol shot he said yesterday, he's optimistic, but again that
Speaker 7: optimism only goes so far. He has to clear concussion
Speaker 7: protocol and if.
Speaker 3: You get him one of those guardian caps that Romo.
Speaker 5: Dobbs was wearing oh manet hit but the moon you
Speaker 5: know who on and not get a concussion.
Speaker 6: You know who would blow a gasket if they saw
Speaker 6: a cowboy wearing one of those guardians. Not just from
Speaker 6: a actual clinical standpoint, he hates them with an absolute passion.
Speaker 6: Is Nick Eatman? Oh I can't stand him?
Speaker 1: What did he do?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 6: He gets really storyliners? Ask him about it?
Speaker 3: Please, first question today? Please right off the.
Speaker 6: Guardian cat Nick Henna, He's gonna be like beam.
Speaker 3: Show done.
Speaker 6: Cut him off.
Speaker 7: First leave it there. Tyler has to clear. We'll see
Speaker 7: if he can take the trip to New York. Miles
Speaker 7: Sanders he left the game with an ankle injury.
Speaker 1: Man wasn't too.
Speaker 7: Optimistic as far as the energy around that after the game.
Speaker 7: But some optimism yesterday when you hear Brian Schottenheimer say
Speaker 7: that there's a at least a solid chance that Miles
Speaker 7: Sanders is on the field against the New York Jets.
Speaker 7: I did ask him, And this is a segway to
Speaker 7: the next portion that we were talking about Kyle.
Speaker 1: I did ask him. Obviously, the glaring question is what
Speaker 1: does this mean for Jayden Blue?
Speaker 7: Okay dun dun dunh so Shottenheimer said Jayden Blue is
Speaker 7: quote unquote very close to making his NFL debut. I
Speaker 7: don't know what that means anymore because we're now zero
Speaker 7: for four with those Jayson Blue hints from Shottenheimer and
Speaker 7: Clayton Adams.
Speaker 1: So we will see. All I can say is we
Speaker 1: will see.
Speaker 3: Can I can I just add something about the running
Speaker 3: back room?
Speaker 1: Come old it.
Speaker 5: I I was wrong, and I'm willing to admit it
Speaker 5: because I was. I did have a little bit of
Speaker 5: blind faith in Javonte Williams, but I wasn't thinking.
Speaker 3: He would be what he is now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an animal.
Speaker 3: Miles Sanders.
Speaker 5: I did think he was gonna make the fifty three
Speaker 5: man roster, but that dude runs tough too. I was
Speaker 5: not convinced in the run game as a whole, and
Speaker 5: the running back room was, at least from a veteran standpoint,
Speaker 5: predicted the way that I.
Speaker 3: Thought I would.
Speaker 5: But I just I was very underwhelmed in preseason and
Speaker 5: in training camp, and now I've admitted my ways. I
Speaker 5: believe in those two guys, and that's why Jayden Bleu
Speaker 5: I don't think is getting the And you know one thing,
Speaker 5: because you have two guys that are playing their tails
Speaker 5: off real quick.
Speaker 7: Josh, I'll say this because this is actually a shouts
Speaker 7: out to you, but also Kyle and Isaiah and just
Speaker 7: the whole fucking Cowboys staff, because one thing about us
Speaker 7: is if we're wrong, we'll admit it.
Speaker 6: Yep, I did it, insta.
Speaker 1: I didn't have Miles Sanders on my fifty three.
Speaker 3: You didn't, Yeah, I did not.
Speaker 1: Same here, go back and run the receipts. I did not.
Speaker 1: That being said, I felt justified in that after that fumble.
Speaker 5: Sure, I was like, you see, yeah, do you see
Speaker 5: two games thereafter he's continued.
Speaker 1: He's on the he's on the upward trajectory.
Speaker 5: So those guys are serviceable running backs. And give credit
Speaker 5: to the offensive line up front absolutely doing what they're doing.
Speaker 7: And then this and also Connor Riley, Clayton Adams, Connor
Speaker 7: Riley at combo pack. Yeah, Derek Foster what he's been
Speaker 7: able to come in and do with those running backs.
Speaker 7: So yeah, let's give Derek Foster some credit as well.
Speaker 7: But you know, when it comes to Miles Sanders, I
Speaker 7: just need him to continue what he's doing because right
Speaker 7: now he's he's making me eat a little bit.
Speaker 6: Of a crow, absolutely, and he looks to be the
Speaker 6: most patient runner that you have. I mean, of course
Speaker 6: Javonte Williams is a hammer out there like he's killing him.
Speaker 6: But at least with Miles Sanders, you have a sort
Speaker 6: of a different back. He gives you something different that
Speaker 6: Javontay Williams is not giving you. However, after this last
Speaker 6: game he came out for a little bit, didn't seem
Speaker 6: like he's He may not be one hundred percent going
Speaker 6: into this game, I'm not sure, but the lingering like
Speaker 6: when is Jaydon Blue going to play? You know, I
Speaker 6: feel like that's been a question in our minds for
Speaker 6: the last three weeks, four weeks, and it feels more
Speaker 6: and more like we're getting there, but we're like we're
Speaker 6: getting teased. We're not quite there. Jayden is the only
Speaker 6: thing that's blue. I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: The comment section has been really fun today already a
Speaker 5: lot of people giving great insight and Kendrick I completely
Speaker 5: agree with a comment he just had and I'm going
Speaker 5: to give him comment of the first segment.
Speaker 3: Blue is a rookie waiting for his turn.
Speaker 5: They don't always play right away, it's normal, but they
Speaker 5: can give him a shot when they need it.
Speaker 3: I agree completely.
Speaker 5: It's normal for a fifth round running back to not
Speaker 5: be your starter right away and not earn significant carries
Speaker 5: right away. You would like him to be active just
Speaker 5: to get that experience and see what it looks like
Speaker 5: in game action, especially with a guy like Blue who
Speaker 5: can be a home run hitter. But I get the
Speaker 5: first month of the season him not being available, especially
Speaker 5: when you see the gameplay and the performance of Williams
Speaker 5: and of Sanders and even at times lip Key and
Speaker 5: what he can do from a blocking standpoint. And they
Speaker 5: even gave him a couple carries in the matchup.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: Interesting, but they give him a carry.
Speaker 5: Nonetheless, with all that being said, it's just a room
Speaker 5: for him to try and fit into, and there's no
Speaker 5: rush to get him in the fold.
Speaker 6: Quicker, Yeah, there is no rush, absolutely right. I just
Speaker 6: I'm excited to see what he can do.
Speaker 1: Well. To this point, there's not been a rush.
Speaker 7: But now you have some things to figure out because
Speaker 7: and this is what I present it to Schottenheimer in
Speaker 7: the press conference yesterday, assuming Miles Sanders can play, because
Speaker 7: you know, you sound optimistic, Shotty love that if he
Speaker 7: can play. He's doing it on at least one bad wheel, Okay,
Speaker 7: So you're hoping he can make it through the game,
Speaker 7: which means you're gonna need some insurance, okay. And then
Speaker 7: obviously if he can't go, then you need a guy
Speaker 7: like Jay and Blue. So how does this color of
Speaker 7: the conversation as far as blues potential debut this weekend
Speaker 7: against the Jets as well as the film MafA conversation
Speaker 7: because Pil MafA is one of, like you said at
Speaker 7: the top of the show, one of several who qualified
Speaker 7: to have their practice window open this week. You have Savone, Revel,
Speaker 7: Kayln Carson, Jonathan Mingle, Josh Butler, Peyton Turner, Phil MafA
Speaker 7: of course Demo, but Marvel overshown is more of a
Speaker 7: mid season that you look at and Perry on Wiffrey,
Speaker 7: I'm told it's nowhere close. But when you talk about Revel, Carson, Mingo, Butler, MafA,
Speaker 7: and Turner, those guys can have their windows opened on
Speaker 7: tomorrow as early as tomorrow, And MafA jumps out at
Speaker 7: me there because why what Revel does as well? We'll
Speaker 7: talk about that, But MafA in this conversation, why not
Speaker 7: bring Phil MafA up is the question now, because once
Speaker 7: you once you do it, you also meet.
Speaker 1: The roster spot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's where I'm right, because because if they're
Speaker 5: already crowded with Blue on the roster, and keep in mind,
Speaker 5: I think I think the MafA Irs then is a stash.
Speaker 7: I think it continues to your point, I think it
Speaker 7: continues because they're also slow playing the Tyler Booker sure
Speaker 7: to IR situation. They really don't want to put ceed
Speaker 7: Lamb not going to IR. They really don't want to
Speaker 7: put Tyler book on IR. And because you don't want
Speaker 7: to do that, you're kind of trapped as far as
Speaker 7: trying to figure out, okay, well who's doing right roster spot,
Speaker 7: who's the bottom of of that? So my question to
Speaker 7: you guys would be, I agree with you. I think
Speaker 7: Phil Moffus stays on. I offer now, even with Miles
Speaker 7: Sanders dealing with some things, I think Jay and Blue
Speaker 7: is the answer to that. Who are you most excited
Speaker 7: or who would you most want to see come off
Speaker 7: of IR on that list as quickly as possible, So
Speaker 7: vulnerable tell me why I agree, But tell me why.
Speaker 6: I mean, you need help with the second why. And
Speaker 6: granted I haven't seen too much of I mean, you
Speaker 6: haven't seen him in the defense at all. But I
Speaker 6: think that's the most important aspect of your defense that
Speaker 6: needs the help right now, Like right now, Like when
Speaker 6: Jerry's talked about, Oh, guys are on the way, It's like,
Speaker 6: that's the guy you're talking about. And as highly as
Speaker 6: you guys have regarded him since he got drafted, I'm
Speaker 6: excited to see how he can contribute to this defense
Speaker 6: that desperately needs that help.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you need to ramp up period, give him
Speaker 5: twenty one days, throw him out there, to get out there.
Speaker 5: And he was a first round corner on tape at
Speaker 5: East Carolina. We've talked about him at nauseum on these shows,
Speaker 5: on the Draft Show, especially even before the Cowboys drafted him.
Speaker 5: I mean, Savone Revel is a dude, and you're going
Speaker 5: to add him into the mix. It's going to take
Speaker 5: a little bit of a ramp up. I'm going from
Speaker 5: playing a non conference slate in the American Conference last
Speaker 5: year before he got hurt three games ind of the
Speaker 5: year to I mean, he's going he's going to go
Speaker 5: play from app State to whoever his first NFL team
Speaker 5: is on it could be the Washington Commanders. So he's
Speaker 5: going to go from covering somebody from app State to
Speaker 5: Deebo Deebo Samuel and Terry McLaurin and whoever it ends
Speaker 5: up being. So it will be an adjustment process for Revel.
Speaker 5: So let's start that now, let's start getting him back
Speaker 5: in the fold because you need him to step up.
Speaker 6: Another name in that role, sorry to interrupt, another name
Speaker 6: that keeps popping up in every time it does. I'm
Speaker 6: always like, oh yeah, Kiln Carson. He's another name, another
Speaker 6: name that you when we're talking about guys coming back,
Speaker 6: you know, the cornerbacks getting help, that's seat Pelt Carson. Like,
Speaker 6: what are we talking about? Granted you didn't see it
Speaker 6: when he was on the field last year, but hate
Speaker 6: that name. Oh I know they hated it, and it's
Speaker 6: understanding he hasn't earned that name yet now at all.
Speaker 6: It's I'm saying that in jest, but that guy that
Speaker 6: you definitely need, you.
Speaker 7: Know, when it comes to Kayling Carson's there are things
Speaker 7: that just the fans aren't privy to. And I know
Speaker 7: for a fact, and this is not excusing the way
Speaker 7: bad play, because there's some plays that he just put
Speaker 7: bad film out there. But when you saw how he
Speaker 7: flew out of the gates against the Cleveland Browns as
Speaker 7: a rookie game one versus Marty Cooper, Okay, that has
Speaker 7: to tell you that there's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Upside in Kayln Carson.
Speaker 7: But then he started dealing with the shoulder injury not
Speaker 7: long thereafter, and he just didn't look right after that.
Speaker 7: I think that kind of accounted for some of the
Speaker 7: mistackles that we saw, some of the unwillingness to tackle.
Speaker 7: I think it was self preservation because that shoulder was
Speaker 7: really really bothering him. And then oh, ultimately he ends
Speaker 7: up on ir why because of the shoulder. I want
Speaker 7: to see what a healthy Kayln Carson looks like in
Speaker 7: year too. That's what I'm curious to see. So I
Speaker 7: know a lot of people are writing him off because
Speaker 7: of the struggles he had, and I'm simply saying some
Speaker 7: of those struggles was because he was trying to not
Speaker 7: worsen that shoulder injury. But I will also say when
Speaker 7: it comes to Revel, I want to see Revel out there.
Speaker 7: I want to see Carson out there. I think the
Speaker 7: secondary is in a situation where they don't have the
Speaker 7: luxury to pick and choose what help is on the way.
Speaker 7: I think all the help needs to be on the
Speaker 7: way and then you sort things out from there. So
Speaker 7: for me, I would like to see the practice window
Speaker 7: open for both Revel and Carson as early as tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Does that mean I think they're on the field against
Speaker 7: the Jets?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7: And quick housekeeping note for those that may not know,
Speaker 7: twenty one day practice window from IR means the Cowboys
Speaker 7: have exactly that twenty one days of allowing that player
Speaker 7: to practice, and then at the end of that twenty
Speaker 7: one days, if that player has not been activated to
Speaker 7: the roster just yet to the fifty three man roster,
Speaker 7: they revert to season ending IR. But while they're on
Speaker 7: that twenty one day window, they're not on the active
Speaker 7: roster yet, so no corresponding movies is needed. But yeah,
Speaker 7: so give me Revel and Carson back at practice tomorrow hopefully,
Speaker 7: and then you know, let's try to get them on
Speaker 7: the field and help out the secondary.
Speaker 5: I think the seat belt nickname from Carson really hates
Speaker 5: or it not.
Speaker 3: Hates it, it.
Speaker 6: Hinders his progression because that nickname already it gives people.
Speaker 5: The perception, yeah, yeah, the perception of him because he
Speaker 5: was great in training camp in twenty twenty three, was
Speaker 5: looking like a promising young corner, which, of course it's
Speaker 5: training camp. You're going to see hype that is both
Speaker 5: warranted and warranted Kyrie Elm. There are ways that you're
Speaker 5: going to see it drop off into the season. But
Speaker 5: people just thought, oh yeah, seatbelt Carson, and then it
Speaker 5: became kind of a butt of the butt of the
Speaker 5: joke and it just ended up not being what he
Speaker 5: was because he was trying to play through injury and
Speaker 5: try and make an adjustment to the NFL and things
Speaker 5: like that. He could still be a serviceable player for
Speaker 5: this defense very quickly whenever he's back on the field.
Speaker 5: So anytime you can add bodies to the secondary, I'm
Speaker 5: here for it. I'm gonna cheat on your list and say,
Speaker 5: like all those names that you just rattled off that
Speaker 5: could come off of r who I want to see
Speaker 5: in the fold quicker than others. It'd Beate Demarvin Overshown,
Speaker 5: who was back on the field with a helmet and
Speaker 5: a football in his hands last week. Get him back
Speaker 5: out there as quickly as possible, because this linebacker.
Speaker 6: Room that absolutely. There's a comment here from lead commander.
Speaker 6: You know, the Cowboys are in trouble when they're counting
Speaker 6: on Overshown with all due respect.
Speaker 5: Which is fair because their linebacker group is not playing
Speaker 5: well right now and they are counting on him.
Speaker 1: I mean, counting on your nuclear warhead.
Speaker 5: I've said this before and I'm gonna say there are
Speaker 5: two ways, and I hate this for Demarvin Overshown because
Speaker 5: he's a great dude. There are two ways his story
Speaker 5: is going to go. It's either going to be the
Speaker 5: best comeback story of all time, his second major lower
Speaker 5: body injury that he's had to comeback from.
Speaker 3: He's going to be right back where he was.
Speaker 5: That's the best comeback story in Cowboys history or one
Speaker 5: of the best comeback stories in Cowboys history. Or it'll
Speaker 5: go the other way and he's going to be even
Speaker 5: a smidge under what he was as the nuclear warhead
Speaker 5: of your defense, and it's going to be one of
Speaker 5: the biggest what ifs.
Speaker 3: What if he didn't get hurt, what if it didn't happen.
Speaker 3: There's no in between.
Speaker 5: It's either he gets there and it's incredible, or he
Speaker 5: doesn't get there even if he's slightly underneath it and
Speaker 5: it's going.
Speaker 6: To be a I would argue there's a shaw Lee
Speaker 6: trajectory as well, or it's like one of those guys
Speaker 6: that I mean, you don't want him to have that
Speaker 6: injury history. Granted, I mean this is now two years
Speaker 6: with Overshown being injured, but you know one of those
Speaker 6: that always plays well when he is on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you don't.
Speaker 6: Want that to happen. You don't want that pill.
Speaker 1: He's a game changer, absolutely absolute game.
Speaker 3: Cleveland game, this Thanksgiving game last year.
Speaker 6: The Thanksgiving game last year was like his coming out
Speaker 6: party and the same we haven't seen him.
Speaker 7: Really quickly before we end the segment, I thought somebody
Speaker 7: was going to say, Jonathan Mingle, Yeah, yeah, I like
Speaker 7: our receiver.
Speaker 8: I like it.
Speaker 3: I want to give Jalen talk I am another chance.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like it more after what I saw against
Speaker 7: the Packers, especially with the upticking targets to Ryan Flinoy
Speaker 7: one back into that game. Keep that going and I
Speaker 7: can hold off a little bit on Mingle if you
Speaker 7: keep that going with Lanoy.
Speaker 6: As we all know, I'm a Jalen Tolbert day one er.
Speaker 6: So I support everything that meant. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Tolbert proved a lot of lies.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 5: He proved a lot of people wrong. I want to
Speaker 5: see it keep going. I want to see it continue
Speaker 5: to grow. And if that's the case, then you've got
Speaker 5: four legitimate wide receivers. Especially when ced Lamb comes back,
Speaker 5: you got four guys you can count on. If Tolbert
Speaker 5: gets these reps, picking shows that, hey, he can go
Speaker 5: for a buck thirty four and two toddies when you
Speaker 5: need him. There are a couple of different things that
Speaker 5: you can work on there at the wide receiver position. Also,
Speaker 5: not to mention, you have the leading receiver in terms
Speaker 5: of receptions at tight end too. And Jake Ferguson get
Speaker 5: him further. Start nice and it's nice. Got that touchdown,
Speaker 5: Got on Twinkles.
Speaker 7: The hardest things is getting the monkey off your back once.
Speaker 7: Once that happens, now, hopefully the floodgates are opening up
Speaker 7: for Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 5: The YouTube comments have been just absolutely awesome so far.
Speaker 5: You guys are killing it in the comments. But now
Speaker 5: it's time to answer some phone calls. Eight eight eight
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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, how are we doing today?
Speaker 3: We are fantastic.
Speaker 10: How are you good?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 14: Well, first of all, I love the show, first time calls,
Speaker 14: appreciate you having me on. Thanks, And I'd like to
Speaker 14: let you know being up here in the Midwest, you know,
Speaker 14: with a lot of these cheese and I'm hearing a
Speaker 14: lot of talk about the lack of holding calls with
Speaker 14: Michaeh Parsons, and I might have to be something they
Speaker 14: get used to. So I just wanted to let you
Speaker 14: guys know what that.
Speaker 3: That it's incredible. Thank you for the phone call. You
Speaker 3: have something else?
Speaker 14: Yeah, one more question? Kind of obviously the game was
Speaker 14: it was quite the game. The defense you know, is
Speaker 14: what it is, but kind of interesting thing. I was
Speaker 14: thinking about, where do you guys think they are with,
Speaker 14: you know, the George Pickens potential extension things like that.
Speaker 14: I know seems to like it here, he's playing pretty
Speaker 14: well and things of that nature. So just kind of
Speaker 14: want to get your guys thoughts on kind of what
Speaker 14: what you guys think about that and kind of what
Speaker 14: you guys would do personally kind of leading.
Speaker 8: Up to that.
Speaker 14: So but I appreciate it anyway.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for the call. Trace And first off,
Speaker 3: I just love that.
Speaker 5: The more I think about that anecdote, the fact that
Speaker 5: the thirty one other teams in the NFL are like
Speaker 5: a cowboys face, you're just whining.
Speaker 3: Mica doesn't get held on every play.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah he does, Yeah he does, and then
Speaker 5: he gets traded and the Packers are like, yeah, we're
Speaker 5: with you.
Speaker 1: Will be good. Such a mouth.
Speaker 3: That was us Patrick, No, that's that's that was That
Speaker 3: was us though, No, but it was.
Speaker 6: Hey, Green Bay, Cope, how about that?
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 6: How about Cope?
Speaker 3: I love that Pickens extension.
Speaker 5: Jerry was asked by Bobby Belt this morning. He was
Speaker 5: asked by Robert, he was Robert.
Speaker 1: Right, Robert.
Speaker 7: First, I will say this because Ceedee Lamb said earlier
Speaker 7: this offseason, and I wrote about it on the dot
Speaker 7: com at the time. Ceedee Lamb said, he quote unquote
Speaker 7: doesn't see a situation in which George Pickens is not here.
Speaker 7: He said he doesn't see it as only a one
Speaker 7: year deal. This was Ceedee Lamb saying it months ago.
Speaker 7: Now you fast forward to what George Pickens has proven
Speaker 7: to be both in the locker room and on the field,
Speaker 7: and you get Jerry Jones talking on one oh five
Speaker 7: through the Fan again, excellent question by Bobby Belt, And
Speaker 7: of course Jerry is optimistic about the possibility of keeping
Speaker 7: George Pickens in Dallas for the long term. Like cow said,
Speaker 7: George Pickens, he looks refreshed, he looks rejuvenated, he looks confident.
Speaker 7: I think he feels like he's being believed in and
Speaker 7: he is. And Jerry Jones mentioned, as you know as
Speaker 7: many times as he needs to that by not signing
Speaker 7: a particular guy, you now have a lot of salary
Speaker 7: cap space to be able.
Speaker 1: To sign other guys.
Speaker 6: I mean those are just facts.
Speaker 1: So Cowboys right now.
Speaker 7: Still floating over thirty million dollars in available salary cap space,
Speaker 7: and they get to roll one hundred percent of the
Speaker 7: unused portion over into the twenty twenty six offseason. So
Speaker 7: as it stands, there is everybody wants the same thing
Speaker 7: as it stands.
Speaker 1: As it stands. Of course, that can.
Speaker 7: Change once the phone call start flying and the offers
Speaker 7: and the counter offers start flying.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, and remember the agent, and remember the agent.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I didn't want to.
Speaker 3: Sorry, you got to David Mogoletta. I mean it was
Speaker 3: the same agent that.
Speaker 7: But Michael Parkers respected David though, because he said, uh there,
Speaker 7: and I believe this because he is the consummate professional.
Speaker 7: He said, there are no hard feelings. He said, this
Speaker 7: isn't personal. So he's not going to hold what happened
Speaker 7: or did not happen with the Michael Parsons deal over
Speaker 7: the contract talks with George Pickens.
Speaker 1: That's just bad business.
Speaker 6: And yeah, money still spends, but yeah, baby, and it's
Speaker 6: not going to reset the market.
Speaker 5: He's not resetting wide receiver markets like Michael Parsons was
Speaker 5: resetting edge markets. I still think it plays a factor,
Speaker 5: and there is kind of a relationship there and it
Speaker 5: is really life and there are real feelings when you
Speaker 5: look at the contracts, and of course the details of
Speaker 5: a lot of these new contracts aren't completely public yet.
Speaker 5: The Tyler Smith deals, the Dearron Bland deals, like all
Speaker 5: of this stuff is all kind of under the radar
Speaker 5: and how it's split up from year to year to
Speaker 5: year and the split between the two. But I think
Speaker 5: there's still room that you can get a Pickens deal done.
Speaker 5: You don't have to choose between these guys. And if
Speaker 5: you're going to go into free agency and say, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're going to spend all this money, I don't think
Speaker 5: I would rather do that than.
Speaker 3: To keep George Pickens. When it comes to wide receiver, my.
Speaker 6: Only question would be pumpkin, sweet potato, peach.
Speaker 1: Maybe sweet potato is always the answer.
Speaker 6: Which one do you want?
Speaker 2: George?
Speaker 6: Because you're getting a piece of this Poe Pauls, You're
Speaker 6: getting a piece of this pot Sign him. Do it now.
Speaker 6: The price is only gonna get bigger the more he
Speaker 6: does for you, especially with CD lamb out. Now he's
Speaker 6: your number one target right now.
Speaker 1: Just do it, please do it now, just do it.
Speaker 6: It would be great if we get one of these
Speaker 6: other way before training game. I love I love the idea, but.
Speaker 5: Again, not to rain on the parade. They don't want
Speaker 5: to do it now. Pickens' crew does not want to
Speaker 5: do this.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has an opportunity over the next four games,
Speaker 5: possibly without ceed Lamb in the fold, or three games
Speaker 5: now without Ceede Lamb in the fold, and he can say, oh,
Speaker 5: I did this as a wide receiver one. He's already
Speaker 5: got checkbox number one. He catches one hundred and thirty
Speaker 5: four yards and two touchdowns. You take all that and
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, now mine price is gone up. There's
Speaker 5: no reason for Pickens to do it now. He's betting
Speaker 5: on himself and so far it's coming to fruition.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 7: But to answer the question, I would be able to
Speaker 7: do it. It is on the mind of both sides
Speaker 7: of the table. And uh, they'll start talking when it's
Speaker 7: time to start talking, I suppose. But I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 7: I'd put the offer on the table right now. It's
Speaker 7: a two way street has to be signed. Yeah, there's
Speaker 7: but I'd put an off on the table right now.
Speaker 3: It'd be nice. It would be nice, all right. Our
Speaker 3: second caller Mike in New York. Not Mike.
Speaker 5: I know we were, uh we're playing the Jets this week.
Speaker 5: I know you're in enemy territory as well. What's going on, Mike?
Speaker 10: Going on? Guys? I just I want to see some
Speaker 10: improvements with the defense. I mean, I know it's it's
Speaker 10: see we talk about this weekly like it's I mean,
Speaker 10: something's gotta change. It's like I'd like to see it
Speaker 10: get a little bit more of a pass for us.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's you know, I feel like we talk
Speaker 10: about the same thing every week. Our linebacker's got to
Speaker 10: be a little more disciplined too.
Speaker 3: We're missing a lot.
Speaker 10: Of tackles too. It's like, I mean, I know it's
Speaker 10: gonna happen, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Thank you Mike for the call. Appreciate you.
Speaker 5: And here are the things that at least going back
Speaker 5: and watching the film again. And I talked with a
Speaker 5: couple of former defenders, one being Barry. He said he
Speaker 5: liked the communication in the secondary more than he has previously.
Speaker 1: I can agree.
Speaker 5: And there was a little bit more of a pass
Speaker 5: rush just that you could see on film than what
Speaker 5: you had in the first three weeks. But when you're
Speaker 5: missing tackles. That negates the progress you've made in those
Speaker 5: two areas.
Speaker 6: Yes, because you're structurally sound there, but if you're not
Speaker 6: making the tackle, then it's a moot point. You're not
Speaker 6: making any progress on the preparation that you've made going
Speaker 6: into it.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 6: Hope tackling is more of an emphasis this week in practice, obviously.
Speaker 3: Without taking a step back in communication and pass.
Speaker 6: Rush exactly exactly. I mean, you just hope it comes together.
Speaker 6: And Ceja Goodwin yesterday on Cowboys Hour was talking about
Speaker 6: that as well, and someone who's sort of an emergency
Speaker 6: cornerback and you know it takes spells with the defense
Speaker 6: on occasion, but more so talking about how again this
Speaker 6: is another coordinator, brand new system for them for the defense,
Speaker 6: third year in a row, and it more so feels
Speaker 6: like these guys are going to take a few games
Speaker 6: to sort of get in line with what they're doing.
Speaker 6: Right now, you have a quarter of the season or
Speaker 6: a quarter is it a quarter season done? So now
Speaker 6: you have a chance for the defense to sort of
Speaker 6: galvanize on the tape that they've put out there. My
Speaker 6: thing is like, I don't know if the personnel is
Speaker 6: quite there I think you can be structurally sound, you
Speaker 6: can have all the p's and q's, you can dot
Speaker 6: all the.
Speaker 3: Eyes you're arguing, they're just not good enough.
Speaker 6: I don't think this defense currently, as we said here,
Speaker 6: is good enough. I think you're missing at least three
Speaker 6: or four impact players that can make this defense what
Speaker 6: it needs to be. Yeah, because I think you have
Speaker 6: a guy here, a guy there. You know, like you
Speaker 6: have some pieces, but you just need more playmakers. And
Speaker 6: Marvin Overstrom coming back would be one. Obviously, the more
Speaker 6: healthier you get is going to make an impact. But
Speaker 6: I think at the second level you are just looking
Speaker 6: for answers right now, and I don't think they're on
Speaker 6: your team.
Speaker 7: Which means you need that much more production from your
Speaker 7: first level in order to help that second level. That's
Speaker 7: that's having these struggles. And when I say that, I'm
Speaker 7: I'm again to the college point. We're talking about the
Speaker 7: defensive ends, right The defensive tackles are playing exceptional football.
Speaker 7: Kenny Clark, he had a solid game, not his best,
Speaker 7: but he had a solid game. But he's having a
Speaker 7: great season overall. Solomon Thomas, Oh, so they're having phenomenal
Speaker 7: seasons overall. You're you're set at defensive tackle, but even
Speaker 7: when you're coming out of this game, you're set at
Speaker 7: defensive I just.
Speaker 1: Wanted to hear it.
Speaker 7: Felt crazy, felt good to say. But the defensive end room,
Speaker 7: I mean, they how.
Speaker 3: Much they change. That's why we love our running backs.
Speaker 1: We knew it.
Speaker 7: But you're getting pressure from the interior. But that pressure
Speaker 7: is that contains being broken. We saw Jordan Love break
Speaker 7: can on several of those plays. When you know Kenny
Speaker 7: Clark and Olsa and Sally, they blew up the middle,
Speaker 7: did exactly what we wanted them to do, force him out,
Speaker 7: to try to force him outside, but the contain wasn't
Speaker 7: there right, miss tackles on the outside. Things like that,
Speaker 7: And when Kenny Clark is leading the team leader from
Speaker 7: last game against the Packers and pressures with four pressures
Speaker 7: from the interior, it's kind of problematic.
Speaker 1: Had a better day from Dante Fowler.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not still not to the standard that you expect
Speaker 7: from Dante Fowler, but uptick as Raku had the best
Speaker 7: game of his young rookie career. Loved the trajectory there.
Speaker 7: James Houston, we talked about him heavily yesterday. Jadeve jan
Speaker 7: got involved. He had three tackles, he had a couple
Speaker 7: of pressures. He's ramping up. But you have to get
Speaker 7: better pressure from the ends to help out what's happening
Speaker 7: in the middle of that defensive tackle, middle of that
Speaker 7: defensive line, and then your secondary while they're trying to
Speaker 7: figure some things out.
Speaker 5: They have the time to fine things. Hey, and it's
Speaker 5: gonna be super easy to can taine whoever the Cowboys
Speaker 5: you're playing at quarterback this week? Right like the Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's no way they're playing like any of those high
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Speaker 6: No, nobody that ran for forty three yards for.
Speaker 3: A touchdown last night justin fields.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, gentlemen, Good good morning.
Speaker 10: Hey.
Speaker 11: I just wanted to say real quick, I love when
Speaker 11: Nebbee calls. That guy is prepared, he understands football and
Speaker 11: he does the work before he calls, and I just
Speaker 11: wanted him to hear that from a fan.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, we appreciate you. Brian.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so anyway, Nebbe keep calling man, Yeah, absolutely, uh yeah.
Speaker 5: I listening to the.
Speaker 11: Previous segment, and you guys are right just hearing the
Speaker 11: words of nobody's complaining about one Tech now, right, Yeah,
Speaker 11: And when this happens, like we kind of forget and
Speaker 11: move on. We're like, well, we got this problem, we
Speaker 11: got this problem, we got this problem. And you know,
Speaker 11: two years ago we were all saying that about the kickers.
Speaker 11: We're like, I was watching the break at training camp
Speaker 11: and a ball sails over Ambar Garcia's head and they're saying, oh,
Speaker 11: we don't know about our kicker this year, and now
Speaker 11: we don't. We would never even think about, you know,
Speaker 11: not signing him to a long term deal. Right, the
Speaker 11: same thing with one Tech. That problem is solved, and man,
Speaker 11: I can't tell you just like Kyle said, how glad
Speaker 11: I am to hear that to just not be complaining
Speaker 11: about that position anymore.
Speaker 3: Now we have other positions to complain about it.
Speaker 11: Let me ask you guys a question with Juan Ye Thomas,
Speaker 11: maybe you guys could tell us because with backup players
Speaker 11: and guys that play teams and stuff like that, we
Speaker 11: don't all we don't all know a lot as fans don't,
Speaker 11: and I don't live in Dallas obviously, Yeah, we don't
Speaker 11: get to know a ton about those guys. Maybe you
Speaker 11: guys can tell us a little bit about what he
Speaker 11: brings to the table that's different and going forward, however
Speaker 11: long it is going forward. What's different about him? What
Speaker 11: does he bring to the table that's special? What do
Speaker 11: they like about him? Does he have anything that we
Speaker 11: need to be you know, any any faults that you know, Hey,
Speaker 11: this is something he'll have to work on. I'll hang
Speaker 11: up and listen. Good to talk to you, gentlemen.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Brian, really quickly.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to have the analysis that you guys
Speaker 6: have because you guys have seen Janier on the field
Speaker 6: and at practice and everything. At least for me, just
Speaker 6: from my standpoint, he's always making a play. I feel
Speaker 6: like every time I see him, he's flashing in one
Speaker 6: form or another and he's going after the ball. For me,
Speaker 6: that's the most important attribute you can have at that position. Granted,
Speaker 6: his coverage, all of that I'm sort of blind to
Speaker 6: at this point, But again and again and again I
Speaker 6: see him making place.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna write down a word here. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: write down a World Awards and I don't have a
Speaker 5: piece of paper. I'm gonna type careful, I'm gonna type
Speaker 5: it down. It's gonna describe Wanye Thomas and what his
Speaker 5: best attribute is just one single word, and I want
Speaker 5: to I want you to say the word and see
Speaker 5: if it's the same word.
Speaker 3: Okay, see I've already.
Speaker 1: Got it here. What you got coverage?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 3: Okay, so kind of the same, think more fundamental human.
Speaker 5: Attribute attributes speed, Okay, see I put smart Okay. He
Speaker 5: he knows how to read a coverage. He knows how
Speaker 5: to read and react and to get after it. I
Speaker 5: think he's just a smart, heady football player. And that's
Speaker 5: why Brian asked, what does he bring to the table.
Speaker 5: Dallas knows exactly what they have in Wanye Thomas because
Speaker 5: he's been around since twenty twenty two. He was an
Speaker 5: undrafted free agent and he's the only along with Marky's Bell,
Speaker 5: the only two undrafted free agents from that class that
Speaker 5: are still sticking around to this day.
Speaker 3: And that's for a reason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of it is teams, but really,
Speaker 5: when he's out there making plays, it's because he knows
Speaker 5: where to be and when to be there.
Speaker 3: I think he's a smart football player.
Speaker 1: Agreed, And this is where I am with one Yea.
Speaker 7: In losing the league, Cooker, what you lose is the
Speaker 7: veteran experience in the veteran wild sure, right, So unfortunately
Speaker 7: you can't fabricate that. Yeah, you're gonna lose that, which
Speaker 7: means there're gonna be situations where Malik would have seen
Speaker 7: the play coming, whereas one Yea might not have seen
Speaker 7: the play coming. And that might simply be because Malik
Speaker 7: has been in the league and seen more games and
Speaker 7: so forth and so on. However, current skill set, youth ability,
Speaker 7: one Yea can react faster.
Speaker 1: He's quicker. He is literally faster.
Speaker 7: One of the reason I says speed, but because he
Speaker 7: has such a high football like you, he picks up
Speaker 7: on things quickly. So if you get once, good luck
Speaker 7: getting him twice the same way to your point, So
Speaker 7: he has the physical ability one hundred percent. He's versatile.
Speaker 7: He can play safety, he can play nickel corner. He
Speaker 7: can give you special teams plays. He's now made more
Speaker 7: than one, you know, game changing special teams play. And
Speaker 7: over the course of what four or five games, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: five games, give a take when you go back to
Speaker 7: Washington six games.
Speaker 1: So he gives you that ability.
Speaker 7: And I think those who don't know about one Yea
Speaker 7: Thomas will be pleasantly surprised when they see him in
Speaker 7: a starting role for the Cowboys on the back end
Speaker 7: of that defense because one of the things that Malik
Speaker 7: is struggling with, be it the toe injury or whatever
Speaker 7: the case may be, communication is an aspect of it.
Speaker 7: But being able to recover and get back quickly when
Speaker 7: it's like that old crap moment. One Yea doesn't struggle
Speaker 7: in that old crap moment. He's like, oh crap, I'm out.
Speaker 7: He bails and he has to speed and everything to
Speaker 7: get there. So you're gonna love one Ya Thomas. Is
Speaker 7: that to say he's going to make every single play, No,
Speaker 7: But he's gonna make enough plays where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 7: I see what they have there in one game.
Speaker 5: And there are times where he's going to get himself
Speaker 5: in trouble because he sees it so quickly and he's
Speaker 5: going to get into he's going to buy, and he
Speaker 5: will buy and it'll put him out. And that's that's
Speaker 5: where the experience has to correct play into the fold.
Speaker 5: But it's all things that are going to add up
Speaker 5: over time, and the more reps he gets, I think,
Speaker 5: the better he's going to be as a player, whether
Speaker 5: it's here in Dallas or once his contracts up, or
Speaker 5: whatever it ends up being.
Speaker 3: I think he's a He's a heady, smart.
Speaker 5: Iq driven football player, and he has some skill set
Speaker 5: and some speed to to mesh with it. He's not
Speaker 5: the fastest corner, he's not the biggest corner, but he
Speaker 5: can get there because of the way he reads.
Speaker 1: His fatality is full of dog guys.
Speaker 6: We have a comment of the day.
Speaker 3: Oh what is it?
Speaker 6: We have a common of the day Josh from Chicago.
Speaker 6: Chicago made Josh shoot Josh. I haven't been able to
Speaker 6: get in the past twos, but I wanted to apologize
Speaker 6: for saying CD should run those end rounds.
Speaker 3: I was wrong.
Speaker 6: Have a nice day. We found the culprit we did
Speaker 6: it is Chicago made How there, my friends? You made
Speaker 6: us do a You made us to do an impression
Speaker 6: of Randew macho man savage on this show, and you
Speaker 6: brought bad juju? How dare you get away?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 6: But you know what there's a reason you're not getting
Speaker 6: in the phone line.
Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate the accountability, though. We can open back
Speaker 3: up to him.
Speaker 1: Now, he says, what we do. We're taking accountability, the fans.
Speaker 5: Are taking We're just trying to make you the smartest
Speaker 5: in the room. And if you ask a question, that's okay.
Speaker 5: There's no such thing as a dumb question.
Speaker 6: But know more about running the ball and ask about it.
Speaker 1: How you see you, Josh? Now you see why we
Speaker 1: said hell no.
Speaker 3: All right, last caller of the day, Patrick, Where are
Speaker 3: you from.
Speaker 1: I'm from Savannah, Georgian.
Speaker 3: That's also where Sebastian. Hey me, let's go what's up Sebastian.
Speaker 8: Don't's see what up?
Speaker 9: Baby?
Speaker 8: Listen, I'm not I'm not from here, but I love
Speaker 8: it here.
Speaker 1: Let's be great.
Speaker 8: I'm from Michigan, so I can't. I moved down during
Speaker 8: the pandemic and we brought you all a couple of
Speaker 8: championships with us.
Speaker 1: Listen, you've been down there half a decade. Artist stamped.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean I love it here, which my
Speaker 8: family's trying to take over. Like the hotels. You already
Speaker 8: know what it is. I'm actually right down the road
Speaker 8: from Tanger outlet in the Highlands.
Speaker 1: Man, come on, come on, yeah, I love it, home Base.
Speaker 8: I gotta get back. I gotta give it to the football.
Speaker 8: You just took me off course. So listen. I'm watching
Speaker 8: Zach Prescott. I'm like Da Coda's hot dog. This defense
Speaker 8: has got to catch up. Check this out. We are
Speaker 8: two penalties away on both sides of the ball from
Speaker 8: being a much better team. That's what it boils down to.
Speaker 8: Our old culture keeps sneaking up on us with these penalties.
Speaker 8: The two defensive penalties giving them third downs, take them
Speaker 8: in the first downs, and the offensive penalty is taking
Speaker 8: away big yards and interceptions and touchdowns. Basically through that game.
Speaker 8: I believe that we can get this defense to a
Speaker 8: top sixteen defense, just serviceable that can do something with
Speaker 8: this team. This kid is playing out of his mind, insane.
Speaker 8: And let's to the George Pickets thing. I want to
Speaker 8: call cap on that. I don't think we should sign
Speaker 8: George Pickens, although this is the best possible fit for him.
Speaker 8: I think we need to take that money that we
Speaker 8: have and pour it into our defense. We need a
Speaker 8: guy like that thread from the forty team over there
Speaker 8: in San Francisco who can read the offense and make plays.
Speaker 8: We got to put money in our defense. We often
Speaker 8: need a new safety. But you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 8: go there. You guys have a great day.
Speaker 6: I appreciate the excellent call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, best call ever, because.
Speaker 3: We need somebody to go to call next week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, where are you from?
Speaker 3: Like like specifically to me? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Where am I from?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Little one?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I thought. I'll just call in next week.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 5: It don't hit the same Yeah, I'm over I'm literally
Speaker 5: from over there, Yeah, right over the top.
Speaker 3: All right. What did you think about Sebastian there?
Speaker 6: Excellent call. Yeah, I mean he's not wrong about anything.
Speaker 6: I don't think we're wrong about anything. I think that
Speaker 6: all of the criticism is due versus what you're doing
Speaker 6: exact It's all the criticisms are real. Granted, I'm ready
Speaker 6: to sign George Pickens today, yesterday, like now, let's do it,
Speaker 6: but understanding that that leaves you with less money to
Speaker 6: put forth on your defense, which you desperately need right now.
Speaker 6: He's totally right. I'm totally right. You know what I'm
Speaker 6: It's exactly what you need help. Regardless.
Speaker 5: You just said in the last segment, you said, we
Speaker 5: don't have the dogs, you don't have the pieces. You
Speaker 5: need something influxed into your defense from talent perspective in
Speaker 5: order to really fill in some of these holes.
Speaker 6: What I'm feeling confident about now is that I don't
Speaker 6: think the front office now is saying like we're only
Speaker 6: going to start be building this through the draft. I
Speaker 6: think they're over that, not over that mentality.
Speaker 3: But of course you're seeing the shift.
Speaker 6: You're seeing a shift, and it's it's not gonna happen
Speaker 6: until we actually see it. But the guys that they've brought,
Speaker 6: at least on the offensive side from this offseason, they
Speaker 6: did more in free agency to make their team better.
Speaker 3: You traded for George Pickens.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, You traded for Kenneth Murray, who was probably your
Speaker 5: best linebacker, if not arguably your best linebacker or not arguably.
Speaker 3: You're the linebackers.
Speaker 6: Devonte Williams, Javonte Williams you signed, Yes, you turn around,
Speaker 6: you you trade for Kenny Clark.
Speaker 5: I know it's part of the Mica trade, but Kenny
Speaker 5: Clark's your best defender right now, most consistent defender. So
Speaker 5: they've made moves enough to make it happen.
Speaker 6: So if the mentality is changing a bit, and they're
Speaker 6: going to both use free agency and the draft to
Speaker 6: build a team, to me, the trajectories on the right path. Now,
Speaker 6: if you sign George Pickens and you still have that
Speaker 6: money to contribute to another big free agent defensive player,
Speaker 6: I think big names like that are going to help you.
Speaker 6: Of course, proven names, guys that you know are dogs,
Speaker 6: and then supplement those with draft picks. It's a very simple,
Speaker 6: simplified process that a lot of teams have been doing.
Speaker 6: The Philadelphia Eagles are probably the best at doing that.
Speaker 3: Just need three or four names, it's not just one name.
Speaker 5: That's where there's a problem because you absolutely, of course,
Speaker 5: everybody wants to nobody's sitting on these multiple first round
Speaker 5: draft picks. Now, it's like, I don't really want to
Speaker 5: trade these twenty seven ones because that's going to be
Speaker 5: a really talented draft.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Guys that are known gods, that are dudes.
Speaker 7: I'll say this first of all, I do agree with
Speaker 7: the point of if this Cowboys defense is fifteenth, sixteenth
Speaker 7: in the league, you're three and one right now, because
Speaker 7: they're not the reason you lost in Philadelphia. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 7: so you're three and one right now. I agree with
Speaker 7: that whole heartedly. I will disagree in that I don't
Speaker 7: want to play the pie game when it comes to
Speaker 7: George Pickens. Because you have over thirty million dollars available
Speaker 7: right now, you can roll it over.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, there you go.
Speaker 7: You can sign George Pickens to an extension, and you
Speaker 7: can use a combination of what you guys are saying,
Speaker 7: the additional picks you got from Green Bay, and this.
Speaker 1: New dare I say, new free agency.
Speaker 7: Approach, throwing somebodies at defense, some key guys who can
Speaker 7: actually help do those three things together, and we're cooking.
Speaker 7: I don't think you have to piece meal it. And
Speaker 7: I think if you think you have to piece meal it,
Speaker 7: then you're working against you.
Speaker 5: So great calls today, Appreciate you on Talking Tuesday for
Speaker 5: Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow.
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