Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted Social
Speaker 1: distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford,
Speaker 1: joined by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkoits. We're coming to
Speaker 1: you from remote locations. Actually I am in the studio
Speaker 1: at twelve sixty five here at lambeau Field West, still
Speaker 1: in the bonus room above his garage. But West. You
Speaker 1: will be coming here in a couple of days because
Speaker 1: the Packers will have their first practice of training camp
Speaker 1: on Saturday. So in looking ahead to that, let's just
Speaker 1: throw it back and forth a little bit in terms
Speaker 1: of the position battles, the things that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: your eye on here as training camp begins. Start on
Speaker 1: the offensive side, what are you gonna be watching for? Well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot I'm gonna be watching for. But first
Speaker 1: and foremost, Mike, I have to say I wrote it
Speaker 1: an Insider inbox for Thursday. We are talking about practice,
Speaker 1: and I've never been happier about it. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is It's funny how a lot of times you get
Speaker 1: to that first preseason game You're like, man, we just
Speaker 1: got to see a preseason game. I just need to
Speaker 1: see a practice at this point, I just got to
Speaker 1: see these guys up close, actually get to appreciate what
Speaker 1: they are physically and what they can do during a
Speaker 1: team period or one on one drill. If you're an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, we are far overdue for being able to
Speaker 1: see that type of work and seeing exactly where these
Speaker 1: guys are at. Now, all that being said, offensively, this
Speaker 1: is just the biggest wide open competition that I can recall. Mike,
Speaker 1: You've been you know, doing this probably about twice as
Speaker 1: long as I have now, But in my nine years,
Speaker 1: I can't think of it as far as the skill positions.
Speaker 1: Just a battle at basically every spot, whether it be
Speaker 1: tight end, running back, or receiver. Now certainly receivers the
Speaker 1: one that's going to get the most eyeballs this summer, rightfully,
Speaker 1: So you want to see improvement there, you need guys
Speaker 1: to take that next step. Now you bring him the
Speaker 1: league turner into that competition. Eleven twelve guys that are
Speaker 1: all gonna be battling this thing out. And then, by
Speaker 1: the way, you're gonna have two or three spots on
Speaker 1: that sixteen man practice squad as well that some of
Speaker 1: those guys that maybe aren't gonna push Davantie Adams for
Speaker 1: a starting spot. It's it is imperative for them to
Speaker 1: show enough during these four weeks for them to get
Speaker 1: that extended look with this team. As Brian Goodkin said
Speaker 1: earlier this week, the practice squad is gonna be as
Speaker 1: important as it's ever been for the Packers tight end.
Speaker 1: You have Mercedes Lewis. Everybody knows what he does. He
Speaker 1: does his job really well. But who's going to be
Speaker 1: that playmaker that steps up beyond him? You're j Sternberger
Speaker 1: has received a lot of pub this offseason. Robert tanyan
Speaker 1: kind of the forgotten guy. But you think about it, Mike,
Speaker 1: he made arguably his best catch as a Packer at
Speaker 1: the time in which he got injured last year. And
Speaker 1: then Josiah Deguara, you know, arguably one of the biggest
Speaker 1: question marks in terms of what he's going to do
Speaker 1: on the field for the Packers and where exactly is
Speaker 1: gonna line up running back everything, Mike, There's just so
Speaker 1: many jobs that are gonna be up for grab, so
Speaker 1: many roles that need to be carved out, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember a time in which it's just been this
Speaker 1: wide open for who are going to be those eleven
Speaker 1: people that start. When you look at that game against
Speaker 1: Minnesota next month. Yeah, it is interesting when you look
Speaker 1: at the skill positions for the Packers because it does
Speaker 1: seem rather clear who the number one guy is at
Speaker 1: each position. You have Davante Adams, you have Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: and in terms of experience and longevity, you have Marcedes
Speaker 1: Lewis at tight end. But at those three positions, starting
Speaker 1: with the number two spot, at all of those, in
Speaker 1: all of those areas, there's some uncertainty. You don't really
Speaker 1: know exactly how this is going to shake out. Now.
Speaker 1: I would think Alan Lazard would have the inside track
Speaker 1: to the number two receiver spot behind Adams. You would
Speaker 1: think Jamal Williams would stay the number two running back
Speaker 1: as he's been behind Aaron Jones. But you have a
Speaker 1: j Dillon, a young second round draft pick, being brought
Speaker 1: in without the offseason, the normal off season that rookies have.
Speaker 1: How quickly can you get a rookie up to speed
Speaker 1: and potentially contributing in this offense. Same goes that tight
Speaker 1: end with Josiah Deguire. As you mentioned, you have Ja Sternberg,
Speaker 1: Robert Tanyan, but they didn't draft Iguire to sit on
Speaker 1: the bench, so but he you know, these rookies, they
Speaker 1: need some time to get to get into things. So
Speaker 1: are the rookies going to make a bigger impact, say,
Speaker 1: come November and December potentially, rather than in September and October.
Speaker 1: We just don't know how that's going to shake itself out. Now.
Speaker 1: The other thing I will say, too, is there's going
Speaker 1: to be a lot of interest on the Packers offensive line,
Speaker 1: at least certainly in the early days of training camp,
Speaker 1: because Matt Lafleur, in his media sessions throughout the off
Speaker 1: season and in these early stages of camp, he has
Speaker 1: not committed to a starting five. He hasn't gone on
Speaker 1: record saying, okay, Brian Blague has gone, Rick Wagner has
Speaker 1: been signed and he's stepping in at right tackle, and
Speaker 1: everything else is staying the same. He hasn't said that. Now.
Speaker 1: It could happen that way, and that would be the
Speaker 1: most seamles this way to transition from twenty nineteen to
Speaker 1: twenty at this point, but we really don't know. Is
Speaker 1: Billy Turner going to compete with Rick Wagner at right tackle?
Speaker 1: Is Lane Taylor going to compete for a starting spot
Speaker 1: at guard, possibly with Billy Turner. So there are some
Speaker 1: questions there in terms of exactly what the plans are
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff and how much competition there will
Speaker 1: be at certain spots. I think it is safe to
Speaker 1: say David Baktier will be at left tackle, Elton Jenkins
Speaker 1: will be at left guard, and Corey Lindsley will be
Speaker 1: at center. But the right side of that offensive line,
Speaker 1: it's still kind of wait and see for now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if you remember, Mike, this is exactly what mc
Speaker 1: lafleur did last season. Last summer with training camp, a
Speaker 1: lot of questions were asked about, Okay, is Lane Taylor
Speaker 1: gonna be your starting left guard, and he left it open.
Speaker 1: He was gonna give Elton Jenkins an opportunity to compete
Speaker 1: for that spot, and even through training camp and even
Speaker 1: in a little bit into the regular season, was still
Speaker 1: giving him some reps there. And then obviously disaster strikes
Speaker 1: and you have Lane end up airing his biceps and
Speaker 1: then next thing you know, Jenkins is starting four teen games.
Speaker 1: So things can turn on a dime on you. The
Speaker 1: one thing I think is really interesting about this group
Speaker 1: the Packers have put together on offense, though, is it
Speaker 1: is arguably the deepest that I can remember them being
Speaker 1: at a lot of these positions. Uh, it isn't just Okay,
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb. Now that's a
Speaker 1: really good trio to have, but there were some years
Speaker 1: there where if one of those guys went down, you
Speaker 1: really didn't know who the next guy was gonna be
Speaker 1: to slide in there. Uh, there's a lot of interchangeability
Speaker 1: right now with these parts. You look at the tight ends,
Speaker 1: they're built all the very similarly. So where this thing
Speaker 1: ends up shuffling out, I don't know if it's going
Speaker 1: to be your typical Okay, well you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: start this tight end and he's gonna play fourty or
Speaker 1: fifty snaps. It could be a lot different. You could
Speaker 1: see these guys get twenty here, twenty there, depending on
Speaker 1: who earns the playing time. And then by the way,
Speaker 1: you get a guy like John Lovett now coming in,
Speaker 1: maybe they still keep a fullback. Maybe they have that
Speaker 1: position in that back field as well. So many different
Speaker 1: things that be because we haven't seen any offseason program practices,
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen any training camp practices. At the
Speaker 1: point that you and I are taping this, you just
Speaker 1: really don't know. All you know is if I'm Matt
Speaker 1: Laflour and I'm looking at that room and I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready for Saturday mornings practice, I am excited to see
Speaker 1: all these guys finally get to work and see who
Speaker 1: really starts to shine. Yeah, and I think shifting gears
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball, I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's quite as much that needs to shake out
Speaker 1: in terms of the guys we're going to see on
Speaker 1: the field regularly in this defense. We've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about how Rashaan Gary is certainly going to have a
Speaker 1: larger role at outside linebacker, the first round pick from
Speaker 1: a year ago, and how he the snaps that he
Speaker 1: gets may um, you know, lighten the workload for the
Speaker 1: Smiths at those outside linebacker spots, or maybe Mike Patton
Speaker 1: is going to have some packages where all three of
Speaker 1: those guys are on the field at the same time.
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things we will see as
Speaker 1: camp in the early stages of the of the stages
Speaker 1: of the regular season roll along. In the secondary, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear that jayro Alexander the Kevin King
Speaker 1: and probably Channon Sullivan as your number three. Those are
Speaker 1: your top cornerbacks Adrian Amos, Darnell Savage or your top
Speaker 1: two safeties. I don't you know, barring an injury or
Speaker 1: something unexpected, I don't necessarily see any of that changing.
Speaker 1: We'll see at cornerback how things uh um pan out
Speaker 1: between Josh Jackson Kedar Holman, because you know, the Packers
Speaker 1: are gonna want to have five six cornerbacks on this roster,
Speaker 1: certainly when it's all said and done. To head into
Speaker 1: Week one, I think the thing that everybody's gonna be
Speaker 1: watching on the defensive side of the ball is what
Speaker 1: is happening at the inside linebacker spot. Christian Kirksey is in,
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez obviously is out. That seems to be a
Speaker 1: rather um simple interchange, I guess. But then who is
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to be next to Christian Kirksey
Speaker 1: in certain packages. There's Orn Burke's, there's Curtis Bolton, there's
Speaker 1: the new draft pick Kamal martin Um, there's Ty Summers,
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick from a year ago. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition there for that other inside
Speaker 1: linebacker spot. But then also, what does Mike Petton want
Speaker 1: to do with packages? Does he want to have an
Speaker 1: extra defensive back playing that inside linebacker spot in sort
Speaker 1: of that that dime look that he likes to go with.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Will Redman as the third safety, that kind
Speaker 1: of thing, Raven Green. So though that's the spot, I
Speaker 1: think that everybody's gonna have their eye on on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, whereas a lot of the
Speaker 1: other spots on defense there doesn't seem to have been
Speaker 1: you know, a whole lot of question marks as to
Speaker 1: how the Packers are gonna line up. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's almost like the additive inverse of the offense, where
Speaker 1: you look at the defense and you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: have the Smith's playing over seventy of the playing time,
Speaker 1: even if they do cut their snaps a little bit
Speaker 1: this year. You know, Kenny Clark is gonna be playing
Speaker 1: a lot. Dean Lawrie, they paid him last year to
Speaker 1: be a starter. Your boundary corners, your back safeties. So
Speaker 1: much of that stuff is solidified right now going into
Speaker 1: this camp. But it's those auxiliary pieces. It's the depth,
Speaker 1: it's the defensive line rotation, and as you pointed out,
Speaker 1: what I would consider to be that a eleventh man
Speaker 1: on defense, what do you do it inside linebacker? You know,
Speaker 1: you go back to that opener last year, Mike Raven
Speaker 1: Green had a heck of a ball game, and then
Speaker 1: the following week he ends up aggravating that ankle inch
Speaker 1: injury again doesn't play the rest of the season. So
Speaker 1: seeing exactly what you have in Green is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be the biggest indicator of how much we see that
Speaker 1: hybrid safety on the field. Will Redmond can play that
Speaker 1: position as well, but as you saw last year when
Speaker 1: Redmond had to go in, it was Adrian Amos moving
Speaker 1: down into the box, and I think, especially in the
Speaker 1: second half of the season, while it was a very
Speaker 1: selfless move from Amos, they didn't sign him to be
Speaker 1: a hybrid linebacker. They signed him to be a strong safety,
Speaker 1: to be that that commander on the back end, and
Speaker 1: they want to keep him in that role, especially if
Speaker 1: they end up being a little bit more flexible with
Speaker 1: how they used Darnell Savage. Now in year two, that's
Speaker 1: a guy that could potentially move into the box and
Speaker 1: he maybe even be a slot corner. Here and there.
Speaker 1: All those things have to be disfigured out and and
Speaker 1: get a certain level of comfort in this training camp
Speaker 1: so that Mike pett can realize, Okay, how much do
Speaker 1: I want to get Rashawn Gary on the field? How
Speaker 1: much can we trust Chandon Sullivan to be that nickel cornerback?
Speaker 1: Where are we going to shuffle out next to Christian Kirksey.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be that guy? You know? Is it an
Speaker 1: inside linebacker? Is it a strong safety? Those are the
Speaker 1: type of things that I think over these next three,
Speaker 1: four or five weeks, the Packers have to get a
Speaker 1: real solid feeling for what they have because Mike, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, this is the year for the Packers defense. Offensively,
Speaker 1: you have Aaron Rodgers, you got Davante Adams, you gotta
Speaker 1: you know, you have Aaron Jones. You have all these
Speaker 1: guys that can make plays. But defensively, they've built this
Speaker 1: thing to be a team that can dominate on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. They want to be a top
Speaker 1: ten defense. They want to take the ball away. They
Speaker 1: want to be someone that a offense fears every time
Speaker 1: they play them. They're coming into their own They're in
Speaker 1: their prime. And this is the year to do it. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the other interesting thing, of course about this training camp
Speaker 1: usually at this point you and I have watched a
Speaker 1: handful of O t A practices, We've seen a rookie
Speaker 1: mini camp, we've seen a full squad mini camp, and
Speaker 1: all of these new faces in the locker room are
Speaker 1: guys that we've seen him at least run around in
Speaker 1: shorts and helmets on the field. So you and I
Speaker 1: have been asked a lot in insider inbox. Okay, which
Speaker 1: rookie are you most looking forward to seeing for the
Speaker 1: first time, because here we are the middle of August
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen these guys at all yet. So
Speaker 1: the Packers currently, I believe it's twenty two rookies on
Speaker 1: the roster, nine draft picks, thirteen undrafted rookies. Is there
Speaker 1: one guy that really is the one that you're most
Speaker 1: interested in seeing out there on the field in a
Speaker 1: Packer uniform for the first time? A J freaking Dylan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I knew they were going to say that. The reason
Speaker 1: I say that I didn't watch a lot of Boston
Speaker 1: College football games. Certainly I didn't see them coming off
Speaker 1: the bus when they got to the stadium. But if
Speaker 1: I was BC, that's the guy want coming off first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want him on the cameras. I want the other
Speaker 1: team to know we're gonna have this guy and we're
Speaker 1: gonna shove them down your throat for the next you know,
Speaker 1: sixty minutes. Now, that's not going to be his role
Speaker 1: right away. But Mike, when you see the way that A. J.
Speaker 1: Dillon is built, he's just not like other guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is thick, he is full in his lower body,
Speaker 1: but he is lean in his upper body. There's so
Speaker 1: many different parallels in comparisons you can make. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna make them right now because that's not fair to
Speaker 1: a second round pick that has yet to carry a
Speaker 1: ball in practice, let alone in a game. But when
Speaker 1: they drafted him last year, and you watch some of
Speaker 1: the things that Larry put together for his Rock reports,
Speaker 1: and you get the chance to finally watch some of
Speaker 1: that film from BC, you can see why the Packers
Speaker 1: were so excited about this young man. Oh and then
Speaker 1: by the way, he goes to Indianapolis and he runs
Speaker 1: a four or five three forty. He goes and puts
Speaker 1: up all those reps that he did on the bench,
Speaker 1: he had, the vertical that he had, what was it
Speaker 1: forty inches? Thirty nine inches? This is just this is
Speaker 1: a guy that is a difference maker. He was a
Speaker 1: guy that you could rely on and so often, Mike,
Speaker 1: you think of guys coming out of college, Oh, they've
Speaker 1: touched the ball seven eight hundred times. Is that a
Speaker 1: concern with him? I really don't feel that way because
Speaker 1: you see how he takes care of his body. Jamal
Speaker 1: Williams is phenomenal running back. He has been just a
Speaker 1: model employee here at Green Bay the last three seasons,
Speaker 1: but he's not built like that. As a power back,
Speaker 1: Dylan brings a different dimension to that running game that
Speaker 1: nobody else possesses. And for that reason, it's the reason
Speaker 1: why all offseason, Mike, you were editing my stories, I
Speaker 1: was saying, this is the most deep backfield that I
Speaker 1: can remember in fifteen sixteen years that Green Bay has had,
Speaker 1: just because of the assets that they've invested into it
Speaker 1: and how all these guys can win in different ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Dylan is definitely one that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are gonna be watching. I'm just interested to see
Speaker 1: a two hundred and forty seven pound running back just
Speaker 1: what that looks like lining up in the in the backfield. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, he's he's a specimen for sure. I think
Speaker 1: there's plenty to watch obviously with Jordan's love the first
Speaker 1: round pick at quarterback as well. You know, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about, he's in a really tough spot because the
Speaker 1: quarterback position is so difficult to play. And then yet
Speaker 1: here you come in as a rookie and you don't
Speaker 1: get any snaps during an off season program, you don't
Speaker 1: get any O t s, you don't get any mini
Speaker 1: camp practices. All he's been able to do is try
Speaker 1: to absorb the playbook through meetings and walk throughs to
Speaker 1: this point until he takes the practice field on Saturday.
Speaker 1: So just watching how he starts in his first practice
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then maybe where he is and how
Speaker 1: he looks at the end of these three weeks of
Speaker 1: practices heading into week one, I think I think will
Speaker 1: be a story. I'll throw one other guy out there,
Speaker 1: and I'm cheating a little bit because he's not a rookie.
Speaker 1: He's technically a first year player because he played in
Speaker 1: the CFL and was a pretty big star in the CFL.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about receiver Reggie Bagelton. I hope I'm
Speaker 1: pronouncing that correctly. Now, as we've talked about with wide receiver,
Speaker 1: the Packers didn't draft anybody. The biggest offseason acquisition, Devin Funch,
Speaker 1: just decided to opt out due to the coronavirus. So
Speaker 1: Begelton is a guy. He put up some monster numbers
Speaker 1: in the CFL. And you know, yeah, if if the
Speaker 1: was always translated, there'd be a ton of guys coming
Speaker 1: from the CFL to play in the NFL every year.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. Just whether or not this
Speaker 1: guy really looks like he belongs in the NFL in what,
Speaker 1: as you talked about before, is a very wide open
Speaker 1: receiver competition behind the star Davante Adams. I think that's
Speaker 1: a that's an interesting guy, an intriguing guy to watch.
Speaker 1: Here is these next few weeks unfold. And you know
Speaker 1: what I like the most about Bagleton? What intrigues me
Speaker 1: the most, Mike, you can say, yes, okay, sure, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. What intrigues me the most about Bagleton is
Speaker 1: the fact that this isn't a guy that came through
Speaker 1: the NFL system and washed out and then went north.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that never got an opportunity in
Speaker 1: the NFL system. And this happens every once in a while,
Speaker 1: and it really kind of happened to Darius Shepard last year.
Speaker 1: Although he did at least get a try out, Bagelton
Speaker 1: didn't even get that coming out of Lamar. He had
Speaker 1: to go north and show that, you know what, I
Speaker 1: have the skills and everybody missed out on me. So
Speaker 1: when a guy that you've never really considered, that has
Speaker 1: not been on a team, there's no preseason film of him,
Speaker 1: goes up to Canada and has the production that he had.
Speaker 1: He he checked every box, Mike. He had the receiving yards,
Speaker 1: he had, the big place, he had, the touchdowns, he had,
Speaker 1: the receptions. The guy just dominated at that level. That's
Speaker 1: a guy you want to learn a little bit more about.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that he came down and
Speaker 1: accepted the challenge. There has been times Mike over the years,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna name names, but there's been guys
Speaker 1: that have gotten some some looks from the NFL and
Speaker 1: they just decide, you know what, I'm comfortable with where
Speaker 1: I'm at in the CFL. The seasons don't really align.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin what I have here for
Speaker 1: a long shot opportunity to go to the NFL. That's happened.
Speaker 1: Bagelton embraced this challenge. January came around, he was free
Speaker 1: to sign with an NFL team, and he did so. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an uphill battle for him because
Speaker 1: you're looking at a lot of draft picks. You're looking
Speaker 1: at guys like Alan Lazar that are established now. It's
Speaker 1: not really going to be advantageous for him just to
Speaker 1: come out and show right away. Okay, Aaron Rodgers, throw
Speaker 1: me the ball. But as we saw last year, Darius
Speaker 1: Shephard gradually did that, Lazar gradually did that. There are
Speaker 1: guys that can make their way at that position in
Speaker 1: practice to start getting some of those reps. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be the key here. This opening week for Bagleton's gonna
Speaker 1: be huge. I love his mindset, I love his backstory,
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that this is a guy
Speaker 1: that despite everything he's been through, still feels like, you
Speaker 1: know what people missed on me, and that's just fine.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to show them and prove that I can
Speaker 1: really play in this league. Well, speaking of Canada, all
Speaker 1: throughout one other name as well, and that's the the
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie Mark Antoine de Coy. Now, this is the guy.
Speaker 1: He was drafted a top fifteen pick in the CFL.
Speaker 1: He decided to take an undrafted offer from the Packers
Speaker 1: to see if he can make an NFL roster. His
Speaker 1: story is something else and I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: just you know, whether he looks like he belongs out
Speaker 1: there as well. He's Uh, he's gonna be a fun
Speaker 1: one to pay attention to. I want to see how
Speaker 1: fast he runs too. We saw the forty time and
Speaker 1: certainly you did a great job of documenting his story
Speaker 1: and and you know, being overcoming the flu or wherever
Speaker 1: he was dealing with to have the performance that he
Speaker 1: did at his pro day uh in Montreal. But you know,
Speaker 1: does that translate to an NFL field now? Six ft three?
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike, there's just Kenny, you know, Kevin King
Speaker 1: is one of them that there's just God only made
Speaker 1: so many of those guys that can be six three six,
Speaker 1: you know six too and run that fast and be
Speaker 1: that fluid with their hips. Uh d Koa has that so,
Speaker 1: uh it's gonna be again a wake up call competing
Speaker 1: at this level. Uh, there's just there's just a huge
Speaker 1: difference between playing in the you know, Canadian college system
Speaker 1: and then coming down to the States. But they have
Speaker 1: time with this guy, and I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really exciting. He's a little bit older. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, Mike, we've seen it time and time again.
Speaker 1: If guys can pick up the concepts, they aren't that
Speaker 1: far away from being able to really show that they
Speaker 1: can they can do something. Yeah, and this guy, Dakoy,
Speaker 1: he was he was running back interceptions for touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the college Canadian ranks, like you know, they were going
Speaker 1: out of style. So he he really does have quite
Speaker 1: a story. It'll be it'll be fun here these first
Speaker 1: few days. And let's be honest about one other thing, Mike,
Speaker 1: we are all blind to the undrafted rookies right now.
Speaker 1: Even to some extent the Bagelton's of the world that
Speaker 1: came into wouldn't even recognize them if they walk past
Speaker 1: me in the parking lot. I have no idea who
Speaker 1: any of these guys are. Yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 1: looking at Evan Siegel's photo gallery of the head shots.
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize a lot of these guys. So But
Speaker 1: the thing is is that there's been times, either whether
Speaker 1: it be through the offseason program or the first week
Speaker 1: of training camp, guys start to show up a little bit,
Speaker 1: you start to notice them a little bit. Uh so
Speaker 1: yeah again, much like Bagelton, seeing what these undrafted rookies
Speaker 1: can do, how they can apply everything they learned during
Speaker 1: this virtual program to an actual practice setting, especially some
Speaker 1: of that post practice stuff that Matt Floor has been
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to do with the younger guys. It's
Speaker 1: all gonna be critical. Every snap matters, and there has
Speaker 1: never been a training camp like this. There's never been
Speaker 1: practices like this. The stakes are so high. Well, it
Speaker 1: is finally here Weston. We are almost headed out to
Speaker 1: the practice field. So with that we will call it
Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers on Scripted. Be
Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team
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Speaker 1: dot com. For Wes, I am Mike. Thank you for
Speaker 1: tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time. Mm hmm.