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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is trying to make s

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Speaker 1: darn happen. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by Serious x M. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis, and I'm coming to you from a room

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Speaker 1: that's just filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey Dan, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we need to make s darn happen.

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Speaker 1: I think he's making it happen on his own, with

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Speaker 1: I I don't feel like that's a nickname that's um

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Speaker 1: I'm here. What is up with the Los Angeles court system?

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Speaker 1: You'ls dous air checks in five days in a row.

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Speaker 1: They're like, no, we're cool, And yeah, I thought you

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Speaker 1: had a game. That's great, that's what you you said.

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Speaker 1: You just picked the perfect game. They said it couldn't

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Speaker 1: through all five days. That's pretty awesome. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm not saying you need to share it with

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Speaker 1: with anyone listening. But you had a strong theory I

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Speaker 1: a theory that I share with my friends privately. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well people can guess it what the theory is. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I fulfilled my duties as a citizen. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: in the clear, and it's full steam ahead as we

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Speaker 1: move now. Inside three weeks before this start of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. How about that was all right? I'd rather

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Speaker 1: the games mean something. Yeah, yeah, you you we meant

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Speaker 1: offseason to go on forever. I mean it's August, it's

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Speaker 1: still baseball season. Um. Unfortunately, the games Week two of

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Speaker 1: the preseason began on Thursday Night, and while those the

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Speaker 1: there are some very real ramifications of giant men running

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Speaker 1: get into some injury stuff. In fact, we're going to

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Speaker 1: uh go through uh takeaways from the Thursday night preseason action.

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Speaker 1: Also also ZUSA wrote a banger on to dig in

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Speaker 1: at NFL dot com handsas slash handsas their headline NFL

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Speaker 1: that's that's nice, that's I guess good for SEO or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But we know what this really is. It's the hot

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Speaker 1: butt rankings. Absolutely, that headline leaves out the sizzle. We

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Speaker 1: great little pick, he's got pictures, we got good analysis. Um,

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Speaker 1: So you could say that you could argue that I

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Speaker 1: or they've just died. I think it's time. Let's move on.

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Speaker 1: You're alone on that ring, it's been a while. Who

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. And also a very special

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Speaker 1: first let us get to it. The preseason action. Some

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Speaker 1: takeaways from Thursday Night Down t the Shotgun Jackson, who

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Speaker 1: of these games. The Sean McVeigh iffacation of the preseason

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Speaker 1: is really taken over. Sean McVeigh last year didn't play

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Speaker 1: any of his starters on either side of the ball

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Speaker 1: for the entire preseason, which was next level in minimizing

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Speaker 1: the preseason, and more and more teams are going that way,

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Speaker 1: like Eagles Jaguars. Neither team was really playing any starters.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I like this, it could just skip. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to watch Minshaw versus Clayton Thorson. Just just

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Speaker 1: skip it. The preseason it used it started to be

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Speaker 1: down to just weeks two and three, and now it's

436
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Speaker 1: just down to like some teams week three. Well, the

437
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Speaker 1: one the one motto, obviously with the Eagles is your

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Speaker 1: Your reason for doing that is to completely eradicate the

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Speaker 1: concept of losing major players to injury. But by playing

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Speaker 1: their backups, they've lost Sudfeldt, Nate Sudfeld last week to

441
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Speaker 1: a serious injury, and and and Cody Kessler's back in

442
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Speaker 1: concussion protocol for like multiple times in his career. Fitzpatrick,

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Speaker 1: get him up there. You you called it um. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the program is called Holy Moly, and it

445
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Speaker 1: is not Russell Wilson that's behind it is Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: and Joe test Stories. Yes, I got all the bases

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Speaker 1: covered here. We'll talk about a professional podcast. Plus we

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Speaker 1: got a special surprise guest. I mean this is I

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Speaker 1: think the first surprise guest in the podcast history where

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Speaker 1: we'll have to not include it on the description on

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Speaker 1: iTunes or else that would that would blow it. So

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Speaker 1: this is truly, well that's on Rickie, truly an exciting moment.

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Speaker 1: The tension will be raised. Has to be plugged in

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Speaker 1: on that Twitter two by the way, Yeah whatever you

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Speaker 1: guys need good to hear you. It's Saturday afternoon in

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Speaker 1: her world right now. A right, that's what's happening. And uh,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the preseason. Of course, more games

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Speaker 1: to come this weekend, hopefully no more serious injuries. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. Fire up the burners because it's

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Speaker 1: that time. To talk about it now. And I know

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Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be people around the league that work

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Speaker 1: in front office that that even they don't like seeing it,

463
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Speaker 1: they don't like saying at the NFL dot com is

464
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Speaker 1: a story about hot butts, uh and head coaches. The

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Speaker 1: ranking that I've put together is not a prediction of

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Speaker 1: how these seasons are gonna go. It's more just a

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Speaker 1: lay of the land. What kind of footing are these

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Speaker 1: men on as they begin the twenty nineteen season. And

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Speaker 1: I put it into tears and and you guys can

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Speaker 1: tell me how you wanna hit this, how you want

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Speaker 1: to handle it. But I broke it down into I

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Speaker 1: believe five different tiers. It should be no surprise that

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Speaker 1: number one is Bill Belichick and he's in his own

474
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Speaker 1: realm in a tier called Bill Belichick, and it tier

475
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Speaker 1: called Bill Belichick because that's how important Belichick is the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and the legacy is built there. Uh, maybe, Wes,

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Speaker 1: I thought I'd lean on you as a story. Now,

478
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Speaker 1: you might bring up a certain a man connected to

479
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, a founding father. But since Vince Lombardi,

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Speaker 1: has anyone been safer from the hot seat than Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a fair question. Yeah, I would bring up

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Speaker 1: the guy who was the owner of the Bengals while

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Speaker 1: he was the head coach, Paul Brown. Right, how about

484
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Speaker 1: like Zach Taylor right now, there's no way the Browns

485
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Speaker 1: are firing a coach one year into his contract. You

486
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Speaker 1: guys all said that Steve Wilks at this time last year.

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Speaker 1: It happens. It happens. In fact, the great people in

488
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Speaker 1: NFL Research sent me some info on that it doesn't

489
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Speaker 1: happen a lot, but it happens every one or two years,

490
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Speaker 1: two or three years. Wilkes. Uh Rod Chazynski with Cleveland

491
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Speaker 1: was I think the last guy before that. Occasionally it happened.

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Speaker 1: So and with this list and you guys jump in

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Speaker 1: whenever I did. Stick all the first time first year

494
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Speaker 1: head coaches and kind of the same group right in

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Speaker 1: the middle. And when it comes down to it, in

496
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Speaker 1: the last ten years of the league, it's been really consistent.

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Speaker 1: It's been seven or eight coaches that get let go

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Speaker 1: at the end of every week seventeen that Black Monday. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was eight this year, it was seven last year.

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Speaker 1: I think it was six the year before that, but

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Speaker 1: then seven, seven, eight. You have to go back. There

502
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Speaker 1: was one outlier year two thousand ten. I believe it

503
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Speaker 1: was when it was just three coaches fired. But every

504
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Speaker 1: other year there's gonna be turnover almost a clip. So

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Speaker 1: let's jump into it. Uh, you got I want to

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Speaker 1: know where I got it wrong? Okay, let's start that

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Speaker 1: one guy who sticks out and I maybe this is

508
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Speaker 1: the Greg Rosenthal influence on you. But John Harwall would

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Speaker 1: be like twelve spots higher. I think, at least I

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Speaker 1: think he would be in that top ten for me.

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Speaker 1: He has You've got him twenty three, so you have

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Speaker 1: him kind of has the tent, the tent if you're

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Speaker 1: going back to front, he has the hottest seat. He

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Speaker 1: has the tent Hottessee, which would put him twenty three

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Speaker 1: out of thirty two. Long somewhat of a long shot

516
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Speaker 1: to get fired, but he would be in the conversation

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Speaker 1: west I Originally I did make some phone calls as

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Speaker 1: uh the insider, checking in with some things, and I

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Speaker 1: was told, don't be so COVID, don't read too much

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Speaker 1: at um. Well, we've been told that for years now

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Speaker 1: and I've never believed it. Here's the here's the bottom

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Speaker 1: line with him, though, I mean, we can say the

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Speaker 1: contract extension is something to just you know, lock him in.

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Speaker 1: He's safe. But this is essentially a five coach over

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Speaker 1: the last six years, since that's Super Bowl my one

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Speaker 1: thing he is. A year ago, you know, the question

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Speaker 1: would have been, what if he had handled the transition

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Speaker 1: from Joe Flacco to Lamar Jackson disastrously or if he

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Speaker 1: resisted it when everyone else saw it should happen. I

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Speaker 1: thought he handled it perfectly, and to me, it gave

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Speaker 1: him a new lease on life and my with my

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Speaker 1: I go back to this with some of these guys

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Speaker 1: with it John Harbaugh, it's almost like you put him

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Speaker 1: in for me like a Mike Tomlin. A lot of

535
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Speaker 1: people have issues with Tomlin. Some people have issues with Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: You move on from them. They both get hired the

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Speaker 1: night they get fired by someone else, and then you,

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Speaker 1: as the Ravens, have to find someone that you can

539
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Speaker 1: tell your fan base is better than John Harden. I

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Speaker 1: think he's pretty safe. I would put him in the

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Speaker 1: He is the first guy in that tier, and so

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Speaker 1: if you had just kind of put him at the

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Speaker 1: back of the other tier, I think he's somewhere there

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Speaker 1: where things have to go pretty wrong. The other the

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Speaker 1: other part of it, and you could read into this

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Speaker 1: if you want, is you know um Erica Costa. He's

547
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Speaker 1: in control of that show in Baltimore now and when

548
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Speaker 1: Harba signed the extension, if you want to be you know,

549
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Speaker 1: read into things in his tweet and his statement he

550
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Speaker 1: thanked ownership but not the general manager and Da Costa

551
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Speaker 1: maybe you know, wants to put a stamp on this

552
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Speaker 1: team at a certain point. I've been bringing his guy

553
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Speaker 1: that I Harbor already has gone. They've been together for

554
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Speaker 1: If you're looking for kind of surprise head coaches job,

555
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: that often happens with the new new GM, even though

556
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Speaker 1: he's been just a little bit different. When the GM

557
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Speaker 1: comes from in house and has been the GM and

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Speaker 1: waiting for half a decade. Let it be said, I

559
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: do not believe he'll be fired. I have one for

560
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Speaker 1: you if we I I hear where you're coming from

561
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Speaker 1: by putting Kyle Shanahan way down at but to me

562
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Speaker 1: it would be number one. We have not seen that

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Speaker 1: coach run a full season with his with a with

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Speaker 1: the with the even a healthy roster, much less not

565
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Speaker 1: having his quarterback. And so this the season decides a lot,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g is a good passer, and they still wind

567
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Speaker 1: up four and twelve or five and eleven. Okay, But

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Speaker 1: unless that forty Niners organization, which has burned through coaches

569
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Speaker 1: over the last five or six years, is convinced that

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is not anything that most everyone who looks

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Speaker 1: at that team believes that he is one of the

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Speaker 1: best and most creative coaches around. To me to move

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Speaker 1: on from him after this season and put him down

574
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Speaker 1: a twenty eight, I just feel that's that's in danger

575
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Speaker 1: territory where I just don't see him that way. But

576
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Speaker 1: maybe myke My contents might be too high in him.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me throw out a hypothetical. Let's say

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Speaker 1: the Niners go six and ten this year and in

579
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Speaker 1: three years he's sixteen and thirty two and they're not

580
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Speaker 1: moving in the right direction. And on top of it,

581
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Speaker 1: I think John Lynch is in a lot of danger

582
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Speaker 1: potentially as well. And if Lynch goes, they might bringing

583
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Speaker 1: a guy who wants to bring in his own guy.

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Speaker 1: So I think Shanahan maybe the reason he's a few

585
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Speaker 1: spots lower on this list than I would have put him,

586
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Speaker 1: just based on what I think of him, which he

587
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: is a talented play caller, is because he might get

588
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Speaker 1: thrown out with the bathwater if they don't get better

589
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: this year. It's time by the wee can make excuses

590
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: all day about why Kyle Shanahan didn't get it done

591
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Speaker 1: in the first two years or the Niners didn't. If

592
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Speaker 1: it happens again, at what point do you say, well,

593
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Speaker 1: maybe this isn't working. This whole football gods have been

594
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Speaker 1: pretty angry at Kyle Shanahan since halftime of Super Bowl.

595
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Speaker 1: I mean, and you know the Falcons and then the

596
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Speaker 1: injuries that category, so it's seat perhaps warmer than preferred,

597
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Speaker 1: and this is your second to last year is to

598
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Speaker 1: me the most fascinating. I'm with Mark. I would have

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Speaker 1: put Shanahan uh closer to Harbaugh. And I think that

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, dan Quinn, and Jason Garrett, for instance, who

601
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: are all really interesting names, UH would have a little

602
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Speaker 1: less job security than him. I think Garrett need to

603
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: I think Garrett needs to make the playoffs. I think

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00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: dan Quinn maybe needs to make the playoffs, and I

605
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: think Ron Rivera maybe needs to make the playoffs. And

606
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: it's all different reasons. I think Falcons are maybe just

607
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: a little antsie after they let him fires coaches, if

608
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: his defense is still bad, if they still miss the playoffs,

609
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Speaker 1: I think they make a change Rivera with the ownership change.

610
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Speaker 1: I think everyone loves Ron Rivera and I think they're

611
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Speaker 1: in position to make the playoffs. I'm gonna prick them

612
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs and then and then they'll be fine.

613
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Speaker 1: But I just think with the ownership change, and they

614
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: might want to change GMS at some point, like that's

615
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: a that's a tough situation for him. It's funny and

616
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: doing the research around Garrett because he's a very interesting

617
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: case here. I'm at twenty seven, he's been there for

618
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Speaker 1: nine years, never been to a super Bowl, really come close,

619
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Speaker 1: and they're kind of in a super Bowl or bus place.

620
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Speaker 1: Back in July at the start of training camp, there

621
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Speaker 1: was it was such a total cowboys scene where they

622
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Speaker 1: have everybody up on a dais for a press conference

623
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Speaker 1: outdoors and Ox nerd and a reporter asks this, what

624
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Speaker 1: do you from Mason and to bring him back in?

625
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: What did you say? I really didn't hear you. What

626
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: you need to see from Jason to bring him back?

627
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I really didn't hear you. Drill going on back over

628
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: there next question. I mean that that's such a total

629
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys moment. But it is so interesting that that this

630
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: is all this is Jason Garret's life West. It's seems

631
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: more acute, and maybe it's because of the spotlight with

632
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys than anyone else that he has to worry

633
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: about these things. Well, we've talked about this quite a bit,

634
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: that Jerry brought him up through the farm system. Basically

635
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Speaker 1: he this is his hand chosen guy that he has

636
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: brought up um and basically installed him. And I don't

637
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know he his job security has

638
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: always seemed much higher to me than people outside of

639
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would think. But this year is unique with

640
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: with him and his last last year of his contract.

641
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: They they especially Steve and Jones, seems to be saying

642
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: the play outstair bus. I only have one coach on

643
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: this list that to me is in a totally uh

644
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: different tier than I would have him. I would move

645
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: him down two tiers from fourteen down to the late twenties.

646
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: It's Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien's had a lot going on,

647
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: and I think the ownership change there has been quiet.

648
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: We're bringing out, the Bill O'Brien out. No, No, it's

649
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: not all right. No matter what happens going into this.

650
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: If he trades Clowney, Okay, that's on him, that's sort

651
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: of he's going to have to own that. Does that

652
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: work out or not, Like whatever is happening this season,

653
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: if it all goes wrong, I think the ownership change

654
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: is something to consider. Bob McNair passed away, cal McNair's

655
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: son is took over. I just think everything that's gone

656
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: on with him pushing people out couldn't get ugly. Like

657
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: if that season gets ugly, I think they could just

658
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: think let's let's start over. I think he'd be in

659
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: a lot, little more trouble than than it is. I

660
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: wrote he carries the hammer there right now, and he's

661
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: he's in a lot of control. But I do, I do,

662
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: And I wrote that I left it open that things

663
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: could change quickly, and you brought up the ownership and

664
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: I should have put that in there because that's certainly

665
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: something to be um connected to this conversation. But yeah,

666
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: they were in last place two years ago. They turned around.

667
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: Last year things take a sour turn again and they

668
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: have a new regime ahead of him in place he

669
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: maybe could become vulnerable quickly. The counter against that is

670
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: that the McNair family has shown their loyalty to him

671
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: by letting him fire two g MS in eighteen months.

672
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: Counter to his DNA. There has been surviving through a

673
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: lot of already rocky scenarios, and you know, you have

674
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: to wonder it comes down to owners ownerships, belief in you.

675
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: And they've already seen him through. Yes, I know, I

676
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: realized there's some change there, but it's still the same

677
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: group owning the team to some degree, and they've seen

678
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien through a lot. He may be good at this,

679
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: by the way, maybe not as good as a GM,

680
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: maybe only so so as a head coach. Ultimately he

681
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: might be a guy that knows how to sit on

682
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: the iron throne. Like I think you're absolutely right. I

683
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: think he had a little bit of that reputation too,

684
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: and I think it helped him get the job at

685
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: Penn State and then ultimately get the job at He's

686
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: that's not a knock on him. He's someone who has

687
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: ambition and he's gone out and he's gotten pretty far.

688
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: There's one guy who another guy I think is too

689
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: high and I understand why you put him at eleven,

690
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: but my Spidey senses they're tingling so heavily on Bruce

691
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Arians in Tampa the whole era that it's gonna be.

692
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he went into this with this one, potentially.

693
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he went into the same commitment level

694
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: that he's done in previous jobs, and so he could

695
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: be the reason he's not safe on something. I think

696
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: he would be the reason. I love what he did.

697
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: I think it shows excellent leadership in the NFL that

698
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: he's the one saying I want these minority coaches to

699
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: get jobs, and I'm taking this job so I can

700
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: bring these guys with me. I think it's so cool.

701
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: But he was at a stage in his career where

702
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: he said, I'm only coaching again if I'm not giving

703
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: myself the responsibility of calling plays. Well, the whole Bruce

704
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: Arians experiences him being the play caller. That's what it is.

705
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: He's the quarterback guru. He's the play caller, and now

706
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: he's giving that to other not just worry that he's

707
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: all in. That's a great call that there's a little

708
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: um it's a little reminiscent of Mike Shanahan and Washington,

709
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: which it almost felt like Mike Shanahan took the Washington

710
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: job not just for the money, which I'm sure it

711
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: was great. Has a Dan Snyder wing on his house

712
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: like Dean Sanders, but that he wanted to set up

713
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: his son and all of this, these young coaches, and

714
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: that seems when you hear arians talk to be a

715
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: big time motivation for him. He believes it's not just

716
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, but especially on the offensive side, Byron Leffarge

717
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: and Harrold Good, all these assistants, that he's not only

718
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: giving them jobs, he's helping their career. He's trying to

719
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: like lift them up. But that's maybe not like what

720
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: you want your head coach to be primarily motivated by.

721
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: I feel that a little bit too us, But I

722
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: guess for this exercise, I kind of more focused on

723
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: guys that could have the job taken from them against

724
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: their will. May I could see him coming back and

725
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: not having the fire and be like this isn't for me,

726
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Or he doesn't feel well physically, he's has health issues.

727
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: It could be him doing that. It could also be

728
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: that everything the snowball factor is high here too, uh

729
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: and when Jamis Winston wins Comeback Player of the Year

730
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: real quickly. I I don't have a huge problem with

731
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: where you put Anthony Land at number thirteen, but the

732
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: name that came to mind a little bit the parallel

733
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: because there's so much talent on that team that the

734
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: way they moved on from Marty Schottenheimer after a season

735
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: where they had a dominant record, where you have to ask,

736
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: I like, I like Anthony Lynn, but is he you

737
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: had a chance to go out and get one of

738
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: those four or five coaches that are a true game changer,

739
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: would you ever move on from I like anthonin but

740
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: I can't point to you why I think he's coaches

741
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: are there. I'm just saying it. Let's say, let's go

742
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: the other way. I'd put him in the top ten

743
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll and Matt Naggy and Frank Greig. I mean,

744
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: he got the Chargers twelve wins last year, and I

745
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: think has the respect of that organization and that he

746
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: would have a really long rup. I'd even put him higher.

747
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: I like him. I just something about if like Sean

748
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, Peyton became available or something like that. I

749
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Two things working for him, I think that

750
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: makes him ultra safe this year one. They took a

751
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: big step last year, not only with that great season

752
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: where they you know, gave the Chiefs everything they could

753
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: handle in that division, but then they go and they

754
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: put together a brilliant defensive game and beat the Ravens

755
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: and that was a really impressive showing. Uh. And then

756
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: when we look at Philip Rivers, a guy that looked

757
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: like he could have been on the way out a

758
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, at least he was becoming a

759
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: sloppier quarterback, and he's just been a much safer quarterback

760
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: with the ball while still being kind of an elite

761
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Thinking if they go nine and seven and with the

762
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: talent they don't, that's all I'm not talking about today,

763
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: but a year from now, if it's just reminds me

764
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of John Harbaugh. And that's a compliment

765
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: that I think his players believe he made. He manages

766
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: the team extremely well, like manages the personalities and the

767
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: coaches and all that, and on some level, that's the

768
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: biggest job a coach has. I also like at the combine,

769
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: talked to him in the elevator for roughly nine seconds

770
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: and really liked him, so I'm rooting for him. Let

771
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: me throw out one name that I struggled with where

772
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: to place him, because he's done a nice job there

773
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: and I think he's well liked um, but he's coming

774
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: off a really disappointing season. He's an older guy, Mike

775
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: Zimmer with the Vikings. I have him at twenty six,

776
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: which was my way of being like, I don't know.

777
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I either he's really safe or he's uh, surprisingly not safe.

778
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Where do you guys come in on him? You have

779
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: him with Rivera Quinn And to me that's they're all

780
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: three very similars and they're good coaches, so they would

781
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: have to like really fall on their face. But I

782
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: think that the patients might end up wearing thin if

783
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: they have a disastrous season. Okay, and now the danger zone.

784
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: Here we go. This is These are the guys. And

785
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: again it brings me no joy to report this, but

786
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: if you had to, if there's gonna be at least

787
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: got five guys that get let go. These are the

788
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: guys that I would you know, I mean, you can

789
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: last year lack of joy by not playing this sound drop.

790
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it needs to be done, all right,

791
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: so here we go DMX. He taught us it's dark

792
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: and hell is hot. Here we go Matt Patricia twenty nine.

793
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: He replaces uh Caldwell who went nine and seven backs

794
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: back years ago, six and ten. The whole organization seems

795
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a funk. They play

796
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: in a tough division. I got Doug Moron at thirty

797
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: obviously hell this year. Last year in Jacksonville, Tom Coughlin

798
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: was probably pretty pod about how last year went. So

799
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get things going uh quickly. Uh number thirty

800
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: one on the list. I had Pat Shermer of the

801
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: New York Giants, and I don't know what it was.

802
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: For some reason when I started writing his blurb, this

803
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: is the first thing that came to mind from this

804
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: prono from the ground floor. I can't too late for that,

805
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: I know, But lately I'm getting the feeling that I

806
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: came in at the end the best is over. I

807
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: just get the feeling that Schermer is going to be

808
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: an unfortunate here'll be a footnote and we will be

809
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: viewed as kind of like a downtime for this organization

810
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: that's in transition, that he's not part of the building.

811
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: Of whatever comes next, that he's just going to be

812
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: left behind. Yeah, it just feels like he's been tugged

813
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: around by a lot of team messaging and decision making

814
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: that I'm not sure. He may be the outlier who

815
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: doesn't agree with what they're doing, but he has very

816
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: little power compared to some of these other head coaches. Yeah,

817
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: that's well said. And I want to give a shout

818
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: out to Pat Leonard of New York Daily News. Finally

819
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: we've got a giant s feet writer willing to say

820
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: move on from the ELI era. And he's pointed out

821
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: that basically, sure, you've looked close enough. Finally you know

822
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: bother or read an article. No one else in New

823
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: York is saying this, name me someone who move on

824
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: from ELI. I mean I could send you probably Okay,

825
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: at minute forty three of literally every episode we have

826
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: this conversation, I just want to thank Pat Leonard. Thank

827
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: you for the job, Patty. And finally, number thirty two,

828
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: the man most likely I believe to get left go

829
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: let goes Jake Rudener, the Redskins. Tough situation and and

830
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, five years no playoff wins, three straight years

831
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: without a postseason birth, that Alex Smith injury through an

832
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: entire wrench into the whole operation, and now he's tied

833
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: to Dwayne Haskins, who may very well turn into a

834
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: good pro or a great pro at quarterback, but maybe

835
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: not right now. And Jake Ruden needs a quarterback and

836
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna win right now, and I'm just

837
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: not seeing it. I think you nailed this here. Yeah,

838
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: I agree. Patricia is the only one that I would

839
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: even quibble a tiny bit that he's only going into

840
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: his second year and he's got a GM that I

841
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: think if if the Trip is fired, they're gonna fire

842
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: the GM two. And I think ownership is maybe going

843
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: to have patience enough for it. Let's say he wins

844
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: six or seven games again, I think he'd be fine.

845
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Maybe the fans, yeah, I think he'd be I mean,

846
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: the coaches don't get fired after two years too often

847
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: when there's an alignment with the front office, when there's

848
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: no ownership issues or anything like that. I think Martha Ford,

849
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: if they win six or seven games, is not going

850
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: to just blow up the Quinn Patricia thing after only

851
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: two years. Here's the thing, though, Greg Well, I agree

852
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: with everything you just said. History. Chris Westling is instructive,

853
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: and then you go through it. You get that third

854
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: year though you know what I'm saying. I'm saying you

855
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: go through it, and the great people in NFL research

856
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: help me with this. Seven or eight guys are getting

857
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: canned every January now, so you got to find him

858
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: from somewhere. Now, maybe it is this year, will be

859
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: the two thousand ten year, and maybe Matt Patricia even

860
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: for this seven or eight guys won't be I think

861
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: those guys like Quinn and Garrett and Rivera are in

862
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: more trouble just because I think their playoffs are fired.

863
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: Well see I don't know seem but they have better teams,

864
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: so they have a better chance to keep it. Maybe

865
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia isn't in the danger zone, but who do

866
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: you put him much higher up in this list? You

867
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: name some guys I don't agree with that. I would

868
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: keep ma Patricia where he is based on the fact

869
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: that that team could also go four and twelve and

870
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: they look optically a team that wants to run the

871
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: ball first and do all this stuff that feels like

872
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: it's from it's gotta work, or you look like you're

873
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: lagging behind he's gotta make his team interesting. That's the challenge.

874
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,440
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880
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Speaker 1: to it. Oh, yes, a little treat, a Friday treat.

881
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 1: All right. You know we promised a surprise and you around.

882
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: The NFL podcast has always had a very you know,

883
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: rich history and connection with the hip hop world. Uh.

884
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Last year Ice Cube in studio of course, Reggie Bush,

885
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: our friend from the Twitter show, David Kim Kardashian who's

886
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: married to Kanye West. Uh, Connie Fox went viral with

887
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: that Cardi d freestyle West and Mark went to school

888
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: with Grandmaster Flash and of course Greg likes rap. But

889
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: it all started, the connection all started with a woman

890
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area who's got the whole scene on lock,

891
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Little Debbie and with the Raiders, and then Kanye Brown

892
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: back in the news. We had to bring our back.

893
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: What is up, Little Debbie? Hey, thanks for having me back. Oh,

894
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: it has been too long. And you know. Oh listen,

895
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: let's turn this up to this up in my headphones.

896
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stuff, this is the new stuff up by

897
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: chronicles Little Debbie's latest side. Ho. I love it all right?

898
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: What side? How about by the way, I think I

899
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: might not have one of those in my life. That's

900
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: amazing and I love that. I always support that movement.

901
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: Do you be great, live your best life? I love

902
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: it all right, deb Here's the thing. So you're a

903
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: Raiders fan, and if you're new to the show, you

904
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: should know a little Debbie, in addition to being um

905
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: a rap star, is also a big fan of her

906
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: hometown Raiders and Antonio Brown. This melodrama around him, with

907
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: the frost bitten feet from the cryo chamber, the helmet drama.

908
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I imagine, deb none of this could sit well with you.

909
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a diva myself, and I understand, but

910
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I just here, here's here's my thoughts. Um, Even though

911
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: I am a diva, I don't really understand that if

912
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: I want something, there's a way of saying it. And

913
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like if he had said that he

914
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: wanted his helmet back in a nicer way, they probably

915
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: would have just given it to him right. Well, you know,

916
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: according to the NFL, there's new rules where he had

917
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: a grandfather period where he could have done it last year,

918
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: but now it's by rule. Let me let me flip

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: it a little bit of analogy here. Let's say, little Devon,

920
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: you're always touring right now. I believe you're in a

921
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: little bit of a break, but you're on the road

922
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: a lot. Right Let's say your record label told you

923
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: you can no longer use your preferred let's call it

924
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: plant based relaxing, Okay, okay, and instead they told you

925
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: what you could smoke. Why did you fight that tooth?

926
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: And now why didn't you cause a stink? Why don't

927
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: you walk out on your tour potentially to get what

928
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: you thought you deserved. No, I would never walk out

929
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: on my tour, but that was a testy um. And

930
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I understand fighting for what you want, um. But like

931
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: I said, I just as a woman, I also feel

932
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: like if I want something, there's a certain way that

933
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: I go about it. You know what I'm saying. It's

934
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: kind of just you gotta be tricky, You've gotta be

935
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: a little nice, you know what I'm saying you might

936
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: have to kiss them, but I don't know, you know, um,

937
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: and I truly believe that, So I get it. Divas

938
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: are divas, and I do believe there's a lot of

939
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: divas in the NFL. But like I said, there's a

940
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: way of going about it. I don't know if there's

941
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: a diva quite like Antonio Brown, but you gotta deliver.

942
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: If you're diva, you've got to deliver the talent. Like

943
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: what are some of the like management troubles that you've

944
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: had over the years where you've had to experience, you know,

945
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: show some diva behavior. Oh um, it's more like green

946
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: room diva behavior. Like when I get to the venue,

947
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody is up and out of my green room.

948
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't really know you. I don't play well with others.

949
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: Things like that. You know, you gotta have my veggie platter,

950
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: my bove water. I've walked into venues and they not

951
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: had water for me and I had to, you know,

952
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of get a little saddy. Um, no green eminem's

953
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: every exactly. Things things like that. That's that's when the

954
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: diva really kind of comes out as a very plugged

955
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: in raiders fan. I guess my question is, you know,

956
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: you're on the road a lot, but when you are

957
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: home in Los Angeles or up in the Bay do

958
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: you watch Do you go to watch games at a

959
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: like a local sports bar with your contingent or do

960
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: you do you just sit? I imagine you live in

961
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: what would be like a small castle or something is that?

962
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Do you watch games at home? You live in California,

963
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: you know what it would would cost to live in

964
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: a small castle. I assume you have that kind of money.

965
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Um I have. There is a cute um sports bar

966
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: near me on will Shure. That's very cute um. But

967
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, since I'm traveling a lot, Like Wednesday, I

968
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: watched Hard Knocks um in San Antonio at the hotel.

969
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: Look at you? How are you liking this Hard Knocks season?

970
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: I I like it? I mean Derek Carr, he's looking

971
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: real good. You know, I'm really excited for human Doss.

972
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know with this whole Antonio stuff going

973
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: on that you know, it's it's dope for him because

974
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: he gets a chance to kind of like prove himself

975
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: and shine a little. And he's a Bay Area native.

976
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: So I think that the ladies are gonna love him,

977
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: and I think that it's just a dope psition for

978
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: him to be in. That was one of my takeaways

979
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: from Doss that you know, hard knocks always picks their

980
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: underdogs that they get behind, and they'll track his journey.

981
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: But John Gruden's head coach seemed equally hung up, not

982
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: just on his ability on the field, but like how

983
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: he does with women, and that seems it came up

984
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: multiple times, and I just it gets a little weird

985
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: after a while, doesn't it. But who doesn't love the ladies?

986
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean more like I mean,

987
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: like his fifty year old head coach keeps coming back

988
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: to it. It's like, you know, stay out of his business.

989
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: He said, you're in on Gooden though, right, You're you

990
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: gotta be a Gooden fan? Are you talking to me? Yeah?

991
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah. Sorry, I'm like me, I

992
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: think that, you know, with all this stuff going on,

993
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: it's it's funny to see for me because I'm like,

994
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: oh diva, you know, and as a female fan, it's funny. Um.

995
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: But it is causing some problems and it's causing some drama,

996
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, and I think there's more important things going on,

997
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think it's making him look

998
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: the best. And he's a good player, you know what

999
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so I just feel like he needs

1000
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: to just chill a little, you know, and maybe figure

1001
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: out another way to go about this. I mean, one

1002
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: thought for you. You know you're up there, You're you're

1003
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: sort of one of the Raiders signature fans. You have

1004
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: a voice John Cruden, the coaches under contract for another

1005
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: ten years guaranteed, so there'll be some run on this.

1006
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: Why why not put together a kind of a Gruden

1007
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: anthem song the corner that market and just had that

1008
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: thing blasting at the stadium week at that's where the

1009
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: money would come from. I would totally be down to

1010
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: do that if I could, you know, get into games

1011
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: for free. Yeah, all right, we can maybe, I don't know,

1012
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can. So we can't do anything.

1013
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't think we can help them, but maybe we

1014
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: can somehow set you up with someone to talk to.

1015
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it was big. I mean it's big for

1016
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: wes Khalifa black and yellow. You know, that could be

1017
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: a big, big move tied to the team right there.

1018
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: Let's a very solid point. Let's not ignore the you know,

1019
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: eight pound grille in the room. Though they're leaving your

1020
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: your town. Are you going to remain a Raiders fan

1021
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: when they go to Vegas? Well, I actually with currently

1022
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, maybe a month ago, and um, I'm

1023
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: a I'm a Las Vegas fan. I like to do

1024
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: trashy things so that you know my side thing just

1025
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: like you. So I we drove into Vegas because I

1026
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: live in l A. And it's like three or four

1027
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: hours three if you're speeding, and um I got to

1028
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: drive by the stadium and it's very impressive as of

1029
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: right now. M So it sounds like you're in, You're in,

1030
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in. You know I live in Vegas.

1031
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean I live in l A. It's close to Vegas.

1032
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: Um it's sad. And I actually went to a game

1033
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: was at the beginning of this year or maybe the

1034
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: end of last year in Oakland. Um so I got

1035
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: to see the Raiders there. It was a really great experience.

1036
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Um me and my home girls photo got to be

1037
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: up on the screen. You know. We did all like

1038
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: the hashtagging and all that kind of fun stuff. And

1039
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited for them because I think it's gonna be

1040
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: an improvement for them, and I think they're gonna be

1041
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: happy with the set up there. All right, Little Debbie,

1042
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you've done it, you came, you've conquered, and

1043
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: you know this woman she releases music at the pace

1044
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: of Bob Dylan in the sixties. There's always new albums.

1045
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: But the latest is Bay Chronicles U. It's out right

1046
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: now and includes that single side ho oh yeah beautiful.

1047
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Uh follow follow Little Debbie on Twitter at l one

1048
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: l Debbie. Uh. And you know, maybe next time you're

1049
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: on the show, come visit us in the studio again.

1050
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love to see all

1051
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: your faces. Awesome. We like the gift you gave us

1052
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: last time. I know that I first enjoyed itself. Yeah,

1053
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: very good, All right, Little Debbie, thank you, Thank you

1054
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: for you guys. Enjoy your day a Little Debbie. She

1055
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: did it again. Delightful. She's the best. I forgot to

1056
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: ask one question in my notes that I for the

1057
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: listener to be honest, like there's been this It's been

1058
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: going on for a couple of years where people, some

1059
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: people conspiracy theorists believe that Little Debbie and tiny box.

1060
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: Colleen will for the same person, and I was going

1061
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: to get her just to comment on the fact that

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00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: that's absolutely not true. Didn't get to it. The theories

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Speaker 1: still live. Yeah, if you are among most people in

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00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: that group, certainly you now saying it after the interviews

1065
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: over only fuels that fire and finally doing this thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: that mean that's why they're a third time in the show.

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Speaker 1: Fourth I think it's their um believe maybe one in

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Speaker 1: person visit. We gotta get her in the studio next.

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Speaker 1: Remember there was a delay last time because she had

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: she had matters going on in the car and the

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: parking lot she needed she the famous appearance. Yeah she

1072
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: had us. Yes, the car was parked, but there was

1073
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Speaker 1: action inside the car. I don't even know how to

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: put it. All right, awesome, all right, everybody, have a

1075
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: great weekend. We'll be back next week. Or reminder the

1076
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 1: fantasy extravaganza with a big fish coming into the boat

1077
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: next Wednesday. No, Jerry Diddy, we're flying Pacivic wonder. I

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00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: was ready to. I was going to serve my country

1079
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: just like if theyre you know, if we ever got

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00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: our generation, we got very lucky. Let's face it. No,

1081
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Speaker 1: draft or anything. For wars Um, I would have been

1082
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: the first guy at the draft. Well, we don't know that.

1083
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: You can see that, I mean, yeah, you can enlist that. Yeah,

1084
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: you know that's open and available. Because if you're if

1085
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: you're saying your first for the draft, that just means

1086
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: you left. But those are the real heroes. Those are

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00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: the real brave guys. But I'm saying I'm I'm the

1088
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: next here, like I don't think have like, hey, I

1089
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: want to be the upper draft list. That just means

1090
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: you're entering the men and women that serve this country

1091
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: and they enlist. I have so much respect for them.

1092
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: They are true heroes. I mean, you're almost getting too old.

1093
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: You are not part of the conference. If you know,

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00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: if you were making a power rankings on American heroism,

1095
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: I would never put myself in that group. But I'm

1096
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: right below that, nor would anyone else. You are not

1097
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: in the red rankings. You had a choice, could have

1098
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: made a career. You're ahead of your ahead of the

1099
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: first responders. You're ahead of like fireman, you're your head.

1100
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, I'm not ahead of them.

1101
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: That's a different power ranking. Is you're gonna I'm ahead

1102
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Speaker 1: of you guys, is all I'm saying. No, that is

1103
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: also at is You're gonna walk you down to the

1104
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: recruiting All you guys are halfway to Canada, and I'm

1105
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: right there talking to Uncle Sam. I mean of talking

1106
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: of there is a part of being a hero. That

1107
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: said it right. She has to, she says, she has to,

1108
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, moving all aspects of self promotion. Would we

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: would be one way to be a here row in

1110
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Speaker 1: a bit countercultural. Today you're instead, you're telling us how

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Speaker 1: fantastic you are. Give me a break. I'd be there

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Speaker 1: first in line. Was that a shot at cameo? No

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Speaker 1: it was not. I'm going to be a proud member

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Speaker 1: of Cana. All right, everybody, wherever you are, Canada, the

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Speaker 1: United States, the UK, Australia, listeners all over the world,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Stan Hands a signing off or

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Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Old Boss, Little Debbie and

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Speaker 1: Rick Hollywood Behind the Glass till Monday,