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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm just you know he's gonna live vicariously

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Speaker 1: through us. Right. Oh no, you got to thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: What's someone like your earliest family food memories of what

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Speaker 1: I think in Middle Eastern families we love to do

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Speaker 3: Yeah broal, come on, man, let me know, let me

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Speaker 1: No, I gotta get with with the yoga too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, correct, I ain't got a ship none of

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Speaker 3: muffle l after. That's a good part of last the

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Speaker 3: one that's it, that's the one.

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Speaker 1: It looked like it. That's the one. Thank you Bro.

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Speaker 2: The's a restaurants, a restaurant ship he got open the spot.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Bro, Open Bellies. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Where the name Belly came from?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, man, I've been lying my whole life. I just

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Speaker 1: So as soon as the outcast popped off, I went crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, artists trying to come up with some cool backstory.

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Speaker 2: like na man out of Belly, and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's see what you can do. Like it was that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can write beautiful R and B records

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Speaker 2: Was that on purpose? Where you didn't even want to

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Speaker 1: some calculated marketing shit. I really, I really do you

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Speaker 1: Hard liquor cut it out, hard drugs cut it out.

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Speaker 1: Psychedelics saved my life. Right. The closest I go to

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Speaker 3: how important that is, Like it's fly.

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00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: I think it's super fly.

433
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: To have one woman on me too, that you just like,

434
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 3: this is my best friend. It's like it's like it's like,

435
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: you can't look if we're gonna be like, y'all, I'm

436
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: a real one. Yeah, you know, you shouldn't even be

437
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 3: saying that if you want people to consider you a

438
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: real one, right, you gotta go by what you go

439
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: by with everybody. You can't be like, yo, I'm loyal

440
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: to my dogs, but a dog to my girl.

441
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: Like loyal to my dog with a dog to my girl.

442
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You really can't be like that.

443
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: You gotta be like yo, I'm I stand on loyalty.

444
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm loyal to everybody I love in my life, everybody

445
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: So me, I would not commit to my fiance right now.

446
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: I would have never committed the way I did it

447
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: even the last few years, the way I committed. I

448
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: stay loyal if I commit I'm gonna tell yo. I said, Yo,

449
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: it's one on one, it's me and you loyal. I'm loyal.

450
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: I got no shame in saying that. People try to

451
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: make it this big thing I have. There's phases for everything,

452
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Go through what you want

453
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: to go through. But the day that you find somebody

454
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: like when I found Dina, you find somebody like that.

455
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: She was a big part of me, Like being able

456
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror and realized what was going on,

457
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: and she was like, you know, coming from a doctor

458
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: stand up, you know, standpoint. She'd be like, Yo, you know,

459
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: if you do this for ten years, you know your

460
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: your liberal function will be down to something. I'm like,

461
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: ship like, you know what I mean. And she was

462
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: never the type of like trying to force it on me.

463
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: She just give me. She knew I was smart enough

464
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: to give me, give him the information and he gonna

465
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: know what to do with it, right, And she would

466
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: just give me. She she's I give her. Man. The

467
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 1: majority of what I came through was because I had her.

468
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: She was my she was my fucking you know, my

469
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: saving grace, and those a lot of those moments, you

470
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah.

471
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: Even outside of just the physical stuff with your health,

472
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: there's only certain things women can tell you, and vice versa.

473
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: There's only things men can tell women and women can

474
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: tell men. Like you need that woman perspective and that

475
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: friend partner in those types of times because we only

476
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: see ship through our male lens to some degree. So

477
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: your friends can only take you so far through your

478
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: brain capacity of looking at something with a people. Women

479
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: look at this shit differently, and you need that point

480
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: of view through a lot of shit, especially with your

481
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: friends too. Like I feel your friends they have your

482
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: best interest, but you guys are all looking at this

483
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: the same same way.

484
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need that.

485
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: You need that woman, that woman lens, and especially a

486
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: good woman, you know what I mean. And we was talking,

487
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: I was I attribute a lot of loyalty, like you said.

488
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: You know, I see a lot of my homies. You know,

489
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: they they got they they lady, and it's like, yo,

490
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: but you out here doing your lady so dirty. And

491
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: it's like, like I told you, I I look at

492
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: that a different way, Like if you can cheat on

493
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: your women, I feel like you can snitch on your homie.

494
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: That's just me, that's the way I think. Like if

495
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: you if you're not loyal to your lady, you can't

496
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 3: be loyal to your homies.

497
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: Look, I feel you. I feel you on the point

498
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: because the point that you're making is you got to

499
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: stand on it. Whatever, whatever the fuck it is, you're

500
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: gonna say loyalties and it doesn't change because the person changed,

501
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: like out of here. If you're gonna be like yo,

502
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: I hold you down, bruh, you could be as close

503
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: as you want to your whatever the fuck right. We

504
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: all believe in energy and frequency. And you know, you

505
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: waking up and sleeping beside another human, another another force, right,

506
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: and you're waking up and sleeping beside this person every day.

507
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: This person has your best interests in heart. This person's

508
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: trying to make you a better person and all this,

509
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: they deserve your loyalty, if not first, just as much. Right.

510
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: But a lot of that, a lot of that comes

511
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: from shit, and it's not a crutch, it's not an

512
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: excuse by any means at all. A lot of that

513
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: ship comes from unlearning as we were kids, because we

514
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: was always taught be loyal to your friends.

515
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: Your guys.

516
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: That's that's always always be loyal to your girl. But

517
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: it's okay to cheat, It's okay to have other women around,

518
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 2: Like as long as you're treating her well, as long

519
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: as she's publicly looking at.

520
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: It's fine.

521
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: But that was that was a simple mentality, super simple mentality,

522
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: Like always loyalty of dudes, just don't embarrass your girl

523
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: in public and you good, Like cheating's not really loyalty.

524
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: You can hold it down out. That's just something we

525
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: were all. I don't even care what your culture is.

526
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: That's that's across the board male thing to some degree.

527
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: I just I just couldn't. Man, I feel like when

528
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: you actually like get with that person that you in

529
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: tune with and you guys are really really vibrating at

530
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: that same frequency, Like I can't even look at other

531
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: women the same you know what I'm saying, Like it's

532
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: not it's weird to me. Like I'm just like I

533
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: can't do my dog like that's my that's my that's

534
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 1: my role. I can't do that, like that's flaw Like

535
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, Like I wouldn't do that

536
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: to my best friends that I grew up with and

537
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: all that, I wouldn't do that to them, and I wouldn't.

538
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that to lad. This is my

539
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: forget lady, this is mine. That's my every road dog.

540
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, I'm not doing that.

541
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: Most of the times your male friends are doing your

542
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: dirty and your girl's chilling hold you down.

543
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: Your girl will tell you like I don't think he's

544
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: your friend. Like I see the way you look at you,

545
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: and you look at you with a little hateful eye,

546
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: like the women always see things from an angle. We

547
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: would never be able to see things. Yeah, you know

548
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: what I mean. So when you find a good one,

549
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: obviously you know it's just you gotta hold the fether man.

550
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, you gotta hold It's just like I said, Man,

551
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can look at the start

552
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: of a relationship year one and then you know we're

553
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: about to be a year five, and you look at

554
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: that time and you'd be like, yo, how much growth

555
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: did I experience? And like I could really pull up

556
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: pictures from five years ago with fucking shrooms hanging out

557
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: of my mouth in the desert, lost up for four days,

558
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: sweat looking crazy, and I don't even remember the pictures.

559
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: When did this happen? You know what I'm saying? And

560
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: it's cool. I'm happy I did it. I'm happy I

561
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: went through it, and I got the pictures to prove it,

562
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's like the growth

563
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: since then till now, I feel much better, bro, I'm

564
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: more secure in every single angle of my life. And

565
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: it's like things I did for myself or things that

566
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: she did indirectly all ended up to me growing and

567
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: be know, becoming a better person, a better man. So

568
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: you know that that should always be the greatest experience

569
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: to me.

570
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: Where you at with the kid conversation and where you

571
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: see that, because that's that's the next step of the maturity,

572
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: I feel like, and a whole different part of your

573
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: brain once you figure out the wife thing and can

574
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: get through how you was raised and become a better

575
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: person in that capacity. That next step is like, all right,

576
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: my wife is an adult and can understand my actions.

577
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: This kid is going to be a brain, is going

578
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: to be a sponge. Every last thing I do is

579
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: going to affect this kid. That's a terrifying thoughts.

580
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, I keep that shit in mind, like I'm terrified,

581
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: But I really keep all that shit of mind, And

582
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: you know what, Like I'm glad that you know, uh,

583
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: me and my fiance come from different sides of shit. Right,

584
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm happy because it's like the kids that God willing

585
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: that we can have one day are going to have

586
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: balanced type of thinking. Then go have you know, me

587
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: telling them certain stories that she can't tell, and her

588
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: telling them stories that I can't tell. Just you know

589
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: something that is incredible, and you know, I just I

590
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: just really whatever happens happens, man, Like we don't really

591
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: and the thing is like she's so cool about ship

592
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: that we don't really even talk about these things. Everything

593
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: that's happened for us in a good way has just

594
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: happened naturally, you know what I'm saying. And we've never

595
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: had to be like, yo, this is what we got

596
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: to do, Like never. That's why she was shocked when

597
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: I proposed to her. She was like, like, why'd you

598
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: we would have to do all this? You could just

599
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: gave me the ring the house, and that's that's one

600
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: of the first things you said to me, like, Yo,

601
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Just gave me the ring. I was like, Yo,

602
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: this that's why I married you. That's why I do

603
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: all this shit. Right, that's fire man, that's fire.

604
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: Happy for you, man, I can I can tell that

605
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: that's that was something that you know was beneficial to

606
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: you in a way of way deepen in you probably

607
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: even recognized now, like I know, you know, she obviously is,

608
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: like you said, she's the reason for a lot.

609
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: Of your more growth on the way.

610
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it's deeper than you you know

611
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: even know yet.

612
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

613
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: It's like you gotta you gotta experience it more to

614
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: be like damn, I didn't.

615
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: She's the reason.

616
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: And I think in our culture man, you know, and

617
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: hip hop and and you know, coming from the neighborhoods

618
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: we come from, I think it's important for us to

619
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: really you know, it's it's okay to have one lady man,

620
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: It's okay to be loyal.

621
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: To your ladies. I like that ship so much more.

622
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: I think culture at least, I mean, you know, obviously

623
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: probably not as quick in the neighborhood that it has,

624
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: but I think within if we're talking hip hop, to

625
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: some degree, that's changed drastically, Like that was cool to

626
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: do that ship. Everything that was that was the most

627
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: uncol ship in the world.

628
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Everything else, like some some era that is necessary for right.

629
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: But either way, kids, don't look at rappers for your example.

630
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: Live He's like, I don't want to make this the

631
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: human the human no, but but yeah, man, it comes

632
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: back to experience. Man, You're going to experience everything in

633
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: life that's going to bring you to that person. But

634
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: you have to experience sh it. So don't go sit

635
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: there and be like, oh, I gotta be loyal to

636
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: this one person, like Noah, make sure that's the right

637
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: person to be loyal to. Being loyal to the wrong

638
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: person is worse than all that ship we were just

639
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: talking about cheating and all that ship.

640
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: If you're loyal when you know it's the wrong person,

641
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: that's what starts to cheating.

642
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: You find exactly, you find that right person, be loyal

643
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: to that person, man.

644
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's gonna take a lot of failure

645
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: to get to that right person exactly. But I know

646
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: he's talking about, you know, your power sitting and culture

647
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: and the power sitting and food. Obviously something that's not

648
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: new at all, but still it's somewhat of a very

649
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: very big global event sensitive on both sides with with

650
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: the Palestinian and Israel conflict that's happening now. I can

651
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: speak personally that I'm not even fully aware of everything

652
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: that happens on both sides and even the full history

653
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: of what it is, how much it affects both cultures.

654
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: How has that been affecting you, probably your entire life.

655
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: But as a reason as well, I mean, it's it's

656
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: it's obviously hard to see. I mean, no matter what

657
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: country is, right, So it's hard to see h civilians,

658
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: kids die and stuff like that. So it's hard to

659
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: see that shit no matter where it happens, you know,

660
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: but especially for me being from there, it obviously hits

661
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, a different type of connection. Yeah, it's got

662
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: a different type of connection for me. But I will say, man,

663
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: like I think a lot of a lot of a

664
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: lot of people are getting things misconstrued in terms of

665
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: support for Palestine, Like, my support doesn't mean that I

666
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: hate anybody, right, And I think I think it's not

667
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: like I'm sure there's people that can speak on it

668
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: so much better than me. I just happen to be

669
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: Palestinian and know you know some of the details, but

670
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: there's people that can speak on so much better than me.

671
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I just know that you got one side that's you know, oppressed. Man,

672
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: like it's you don't need to You can watch anything

673
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: you want or you know, read stuff from Amnesty International,

674
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: whoever you want. You know, you see this aside the

675
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: suppress that doesn't come down to the people, doesn't come

676
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: down to me hating people. It comes down to government policy,

677
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: Kirker politicians, corrupt governments and right wing administrations right to me,

678
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: So somebody else can have a different opinion to me.

679
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: That's where it comes from, right you You you change that,

680
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: you change the regime, then you have a chain to

681
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: change everything else. As long as you have these type

682
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: of tyrants, you know, in power, you're going to continue

683
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: to see the same thing you're seeing. If we want

684
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: real change, we got to commit to real change, and

685
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: those type of guys need to be out of office,

686
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: and we need to really work towards the future that

687
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: we can integrate and be happy all of us in

688
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: one place, you know what I mean. But in the

689
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: way it is and the policies and the way they're run,

690
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I don't think that

691
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: there's a equal rights or even human rights a lot

692
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: of times for Palestinians. That's what it comes down to me.

693
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: So I don't want to get into the politics of it.

694
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a politician, but I'm gonna just say, man,

695
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: it always comes down to the politicians makes some crazy

696
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: decisions and that people suffer, you know exactly. You know,

697
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: so again, this has nothing to do with people me

698
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: hating nobody. This is me loving my people and hoping

699
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: for change, man, hoping for better for everybody. You know,

700
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: you still a lot of family over that. Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

701
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: I've seen some of the posts, some of the protesters

702
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: and the people that were over there, they were holding

703
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: up signs of some of your your lyrics and some

704
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: of your words, and I know for you that had

705
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: to like shake you and like really touch you on

706
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: a different way in that moment, that they would attach

707
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: some of your words to the fight and the injustice

708
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: that they were suffering and going through.

709
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: Like that has to on a human level, is shaking differently.

710
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, man, like that that hits me, man,

711
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I think that it makes

712
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: me emotional a lot of times. But I always knew

713
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: that I was part of speaking like speaking those words.

714
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: I always knew that I was part of like a

715
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: righteous resistance because I'm not I'm not for any type

716
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: of stuff, millions dying, I'm not for none of that, right,

717
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm just for somebody that preaches that we got we

718
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: should have the power as people to change whatever the

719
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: fuck we want, and governments and these and these fucking

720
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: powers that be. That's that's who the real problems are.

721
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: And I want the people to understand that us, we could,

722
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: we could find a solution. We don't need them to

723
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: sit down and some camp to figure out the solution.

724
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Let us figure it out and

725
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: just get evil motherfuckers out of power. That's and we

726
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: the people have that power to do that. And that's

727
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: what I always preach. Man. You know what I mean.

728
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: I love everybody. I'm always have love for everybody. I

729
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: don't want to see no innocent person die, period. I

730
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: don't want to see nobody die honesty, period. You know

731
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just want to see like an

732
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: equal future for everybody, equal chances, equal opportunity, and equal

733
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: quality of life. That's it. I think that's basic. Nobody's

734
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: asking for thrones and castle at the court.

735
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: You just be a good person, like I think, at

736
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: the core of everything, Like you know, I tell people,

737
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: no matter what happens, just.

738
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: Be a good person.

739
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: I think if everybody walks around with that, like I

740
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: couldn't be having a shitty day. But if I'm just

741
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: a good person, I think I've done.

742
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: My part absolutely, you know. I agree with you, bro.

743
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: I think just being a decent human being just wake up.

744
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I try to do something for somebody every day, bro,

745
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: I really do. If I'm driving and I see somebody

746
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: that looks like they're down and out going through something,

747
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I might always try to offer some kind of help

748
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: to them, whatever it could be, whatever I could do.

749
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm I always try to offer that help, you know.

750
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: And I do that on a daily basis. And it's

751
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: not like I'm doing it to be like this, and

752
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: it's like nah, bro, like I really want somebody to

753
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: really feel good, Like yo. I pull up to the

754
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: fruitstand the other day. I pulled on my block. It

755
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: was a fruit stand. I bought the whole fruitstand. How

756
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: much for the whole exactly the whole fruits? Every case

757
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: is this? Give me the whole fruit stand? He was like,

758
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: all right, cool, gave me the number. I gave him

759
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: the money, and then left the fruit I took one

760
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: case of mangoes with me and I left all the fruit,

761
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: like sell the fruit, you know what I mean. Like,

762
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that every day find i know, driving

763
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: around the city doing dumb errands and shit, I'm gonna

764
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: find something or somebody or whatever. That to me is

765
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: like as good as as probably better than receiving. You

766
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: get to a point in life where like you've kind

767
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: of received, especially God blessed me. I've been blessed to

768
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: receive things that I never thought I would get to

769
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: in my life. I'm not gonna lie to even be like, yeah,

770
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: I always knew. Now there's some things that I've gotten

771
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: to in my life that I'm like, is this real? Right? Right,

772
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: there's no way me like I've had those moments. I'm not,

773
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I feel like if

774
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: we're blessed enough to have that and have that type

775
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: of life, it's like, yo, bro, whatever you gotta pass

776
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: it on. Whatever. I could turn around and do the

777
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: smallest ship sometimes, bro, be the biggest ship to somebody else.

778
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Bro, especially when you were there and you weren't able,

779
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: and now you're able.

780
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: It's like, but I used to pump, I used to

781
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: pump gas in the cold. I really used to pump

782
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: gas in the cold. One of my first jobs, I

783
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: worked at the gas station, pump gas in the cold Canada,

784
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: three feet of snow, different, cold, different, you know. And

785
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: people will come and I'm working at the graveyard shift,

786
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: so people are pulling up. I'm coming out pumping gas,

787
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: no tip. I'm like, Yo, you guys are fucking crazy.

788
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm out here in sub zero weather. Y'all don't

789
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: got a fucking dollar a dollar like something. Bro, I'm

790
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: out here until eight in the morning. Y'all don't got

791
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: nothing from me. I learned, So that's why now I'm like,

792
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm in that position. I pull up, somebody pumps my guy.

793
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: You getting one hundred dollars. Bro, I'm gonna make you

794
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: smile all day, right right, because nobody did that for me,

795
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: right right. You know what I'm saying.

796
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: Something in our video about my Carra is beautiful, and

797
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: that was just you know, because I know I'm conscious

798
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, Like I make sure that any

799
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: interaction I have.

800
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: With somebody, it's always a positive interaction.

801
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying is because I believe what

802
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: you put out comes back. You know what I mean,

803
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: that's a real thing to me, Like you do good things,

804
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna come back. Somebody somewhere is gonna always remember.

805
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: Like he's a good guy, you know what I mean,

806
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: Like he's something like no matter what it is, if

807
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: you're a good person, you could have a billion dollars

808
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 3: and be a shitty person. Like people just despise being

809
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: in the room with you because the way you make

810
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: them feel, you know what I mean. But when you're

811
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: a good person, people will go above and beyond for you.

812
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: And me saying my carra is beautiful was just that

813
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: I can be broke, I could be financially have zero

814
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: in my bank account, but if my calm and my

815
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: energy is beautiful, I'm one of the wealthiest men on

816
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: the planet.

817
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know what I mean. Absolute, And I believe

818
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: that I agree with you one hundred percent on it.

819
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: That's what I had, bro That's that's really wealth is

820
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: being true, so true to yourself that you're just like, yeah, okay, good,

821
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm cool. The egos dead, the pride is dead. Let

822
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: me take a breath and now, know me, that's the

823
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: that's the realist feeling on Earth especially.

824
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: I believe that this isn't just it. Earth is not

825
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: just it. There is another place where money is not

826
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: going to matter.

827
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. And honestly, the realist

828
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: ship I ever heard was you know, you know they

829
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: say I heard this quote. I'm probably gonna butcher the

830
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: quote right now. But happiness will bring you money faster

831
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: than money will bring you happiness, right. So, like, if

832
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: you're actually genuinely happy on the inside, you and your

833
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: vibes are, and money is what you want. Money you'll

834
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: find itself to you if I find its way to you. Right.

835
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: But if you're fucking angry all the time, bitter and

836
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: ship like, that ship will literally repel to you like

837
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: two magnets, bro, that ship is getting away from you,

838
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I feel you, man like,

839
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: until you're rich on the inside, it's hard to be

840
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: rich money wise, you know, it's hard to be rich

841
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: in that way. If you're not rich in this way already,

842
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely.

843
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get into some music.

844
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: Let's studio es. Those are actually lyrics from the album. Guys,

845
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: you've heard the entire thing. Yeah, that's an interactive interview.

846
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: It's the first music video. Yeah, that's right. Guys. Genius

847
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: is going to put all the lyrics right