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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast, Well, always.

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Speaker 2: Cherish the young and sweaty hand from the Chris Wesley

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Speaker 2: podcast studio, It's around the NFL. I am Dan hansis

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Speaker 2: got heroes here, Greg Rosendal, Mark Sessler on this very

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Speaker 2: special week on the NFL calendar. It's week twelve, but

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Speaker 2: it's also here's the language. The John Madden Thanksgiving Commemoration.

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Speaker 3: What's up, guys, also known as Thanksgiving? Which is fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's sets. The secondary title would be thinking, oh.

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Speaker 2: NFL now has enough power due to the ratings and

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Speaker 2: the billions that Thanksgiving has been officially renamed.

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Speaker 3: I'm with it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if there's one person that there's one person

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Speaker 5: that I want to be reminded of every year, it's

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Speaker 5: John Madden.

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Speaker 6: He can just be in the New Love Jo saying

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Speaker 6: I like that angle of it. Greg we all you

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Speaker 6: know grew up with John Madden. I don't disagree that

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Speaker 6: he deserves to be recognized. But they then for them

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Speaker 6: to literally rename Thanksgiving. That flies in the face of

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Speaker 6: a larger population fall.

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Speaker 3: That's just the football production value.

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Speaker 2: Madden's first Thanksgiving game for the record, and maybe some people,

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Speaker 2: the younger listeners don't know John Madden.

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Speaker 4: It's a video game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They a Hall of Fame a player and then a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach with the Raiders. Retired early and

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Speaker 2: then it got the bug to stay in the game

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Speaker 2: and ended up becoming I think, undoubtedly like the most

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Speaker 2: famous NFL announcer ever, launched a video game franchise that

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Speaker 2: became the biggest video game franchise ever, and he passed away.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was it last year or the year before,

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Speaker 2: and now we celebrate Madden and we celebrate his contribution

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Speaker 2: to the game because he kind of was Americana personified,

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Speaker 2: especially this time of year. And his last Thanksgiving Day

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Speaker 2: game as a commentator was way back in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one.

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Speaker 3: But it just goes to show you, uh, what kind

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Speaker 3: of connection he had.

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Speaker 6: Well, also, there's no him without Pat Summer all as well.

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Speaker 6: It's like the two of them kind of were this

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Speaker 6: incredible duo. And I do wonder what it would be

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Speaker 6: like if if John Madden were dropped In today's world,

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Speaker 6: we're like half of the conversation is about like E

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Speaker 3: Like he was.

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Speaker 6: He was from a time where that you don't you

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Speaker 6: just talking about what you're seeing on the field right now,

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Speaker 6: and like how big the guy's legs are, and like

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Speaker 6: they're smashing into each other and you're eating turkey.

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Speaker 3: Kind of miss that. I kind of miss it, but

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Speaker 3: you're not. No, you're not.

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Speaker 4: It's it's great what we have now. It's better, so

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Speaker 4: much better.

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Speaker 3: I mean he I I hear you. By man.

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Speaker 5: He he broke it down x as a O style. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Mark over simplified it. He took a shot.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, like I think I think he's.

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Speaker 5: Very romo, Like I think, I mean, Romo is not

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Speaker 5: John Madden, and he's definitely not gonna be like writing

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Speaker 5: a bunch of number one best selling books like Madden did,

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Speaker 5: which another career. Yeah, that's right. Uh they were romance novels.

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Speaker 5: They kind of remind me that very steamy one of

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Speaker 5: the Eagles two feet the kind of kind of similar

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Speaker 5: to me the way they like the game.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of historical figures, I gotta I gotta bring this up, Mark,

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Speaker 2: because we've long had a connect.

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Speaker 6: By now, I'm like, I got the John Madden thing wrong,

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Speaker 6: Like Jula, We've moved on.

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Speaker 5: Give me, let me do a thousand let's do you

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Speaker 5: have sixteen games to get through.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the only time we'll ever do that.

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Speaker 3: Let's nail this historical figure out.

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Speaker 7: Okay, we choose to go to the moon and dis

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Speaker 7: decay and do the other things, not because they are easy,

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Speaker 7: but because they are hard, because that goal will serve

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Speaker 7: to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills,

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Speaker 7: because that challenge is one that we're willing to accept.

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Speaker 7: One we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend

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Speaker 7: to win.

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Speaker 3: And the others too.

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Speaker 2: JFK spitting bars in a big spot in an address

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Speaker 2: at Rice University on September twelfth, nineteen sixty two. Today's

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Speaker 2: November twenty second, twenty twenty three. It has been sixty

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Speaker 2: years since John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Like coming

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Speaker 2: up up to the hour, almost sixty years, and Mark,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a figure of immense historical worth. And

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Speaker 2: you Mark, we have talked about him for years and

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Speaker 2: years since we've known each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if the listeners know this, but

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Speaker 2: Kennedy was such a fascination and the details around his

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Speaker 6: I went, I transferred colleges multiple times, and my third

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Speaker 6: there under the guise of I'm going to research this

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Speaker 6: in the assassination left and right. But it was also

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Speaker 6: So it was like, did not pick the right spot?

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Speaker 6: But I've always thought he was Did.

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Speaker 6: But I think also I was in college and I

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Speaker 5: That's an unfinished work. I mean, it's still it's still popping.

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Speaker 5: They got they got a new JFK pod on the

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Speaker 5: old I Heart radio network. It did Rob Ryder and

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Speaker 5: it's still popping. To do better than popping, I think

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Speaker 3: It's on our heel. We need home and home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And by the way, that was Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting the US formerly into the space race.

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Speaker 3: He was killed in sixty three.

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Speaker 2: But we got there in July sixty nine, major sliding

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Speaker 3: The history of this country is his death.

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Speaker 4: And his brothers and mlk's and Malcolm X's.

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Speaker 3: And say say what you wanna about LBJ.

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Speaker 2: But he did get the Civil Rights Bill across the

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it. Here we go, my

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Speaker 3: Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked I didn't know that the best. All right,

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Speaker 2: here we go. Let's get into it. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving games, because that's how John Madden would have

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Speaker 2: gonna be on fire, Mark Sessler, because the Lions are

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think like you're coming off of a performance.

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Speaker 6: Of wide receivers who have started to gel, so there

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Speaker 6: is some hope. The thing about this game, though, that

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Speaker 5: Detroit's been pretty disappointing though over the last month, just

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Speaker 5: in terms of their defense. They they've been one of

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Speaker 5: the worst defenses in the league since they showed up

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Speaker 5: in Baltimore. I think the book is kind of out

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Speaker 5: that you just throw against them, Just throw, throw, throw, throw.

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Speaker 5: They're they're not good at cornerback. They don't really have

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Speaker 5: You could look at any metric you want. They're one

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Speaker 5: SIN in the last four or five weeks, and you're

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Speaker 5: going up against the Packers passing attack that when you

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Speaker 5: can protect love weirdly, Dan, Yeah, they have more plays

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Speaker 5: over thirty yards than any team in the NFL. Doesn't

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Speaker 5: up and it's like thirties of weird cutoff. There's actually

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Speaker 5: not that many for any team, but still the Packers

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Speaker 5: hit on some big plays. I could see a lot

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Speaker 5: of points. I think this will be fun. I think

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Speaker 5: the lines are favored by too much. It's seven and

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Speaker 2: In this Yeah, I mean you heard it made some

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Speaker 2: a level of mediocrity in the games he's watching maybe

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Speaker 2: Packers are the team that's kind of leading the charge

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Speaker 2: in terms of big plays. And I just we just

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Speaker 2: like a seven yard game. But that's the reason why

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Speaker 2: it's hard to do. It's hard to hit on big plays.

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Speaker 2: And I think it does. Perhaps Greg hit on that

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Speaker 2: you hit on it there.

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Speaker 3: This that was in Dallas. Oh yeah, that's right. It

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Speaker 5: Think how big of a deal though it would be.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be amazing. And now they think about it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Maybe we get a nice shootout with a double thirty Burger.

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Speaker 6: I think it'd be stunning if they lost to Home

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Speaker 3: You can run on them.

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Speaker 4: Their defense isn't special either.

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Speaker 6: And I don't really care about what happened to Jared

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Speaker 6: He has been lights out at home and I just like,

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Speaker 3: I I kind of see a romp.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, he's not going to turtleshell after not

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Speaker 3: Did in that game.

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Speaker 5: I think that running the attack and they've even doubt

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Speaker 5: I think this is a perfect way to start. I

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight, thirty one. Let's go, let's do it.

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Speaker 6: I have one prophecy, you know, like aunt Beatrice whoever's

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Speaker 3: We got to get Beatris over early.

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Speaker 6: Well, she's already sleeping over back. And before Beatrice alreadys

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Speaker 6: my aunt, I'm saying, but this is actually a football

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Speaker 6: Someone had to ask the question. I am not really,

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Speaker 6: I'm saying the archetypal and Beatrice well come out of

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Speaker 6: this game around twelve thirty Eastern with a secret and

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Speaker 3: OK, very nice call, I think you're gonna say.

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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell also could be a favorite of the ant.

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Speaker 3: Cra Oh he's too much man for me.

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Speaker 2: The Lions are playing their eighty fourth game on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: The most all time.

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Speaker 2: And wow, they are something crazy like sixteen and four

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Speaker 3: So the Lions are a roll in. Let's move on.

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Speaker 3: We gotta keep it on.

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Speaker 2: We got so many games did today, So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: hit the middle game. And it's always the Cowboys. And

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Speaker 2: yes it was Scott's stap. Can we find out Eric

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Speaker 2: behind the glass? Scott's stap Thanksgiving two thousand and one?

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Speaker 2: Whose jersey he was wearing? I might have been DaMarcus Ware.

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Speaker 2: This is very important to find out, all right. The

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Speaker 2: Washington Commanders four and seven, third place in the NFC East,

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Speaker 2: travel to Dallas to face the seven and three boys.

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Speaker 3: Greg I the Commanders, they're going in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 2: And Howell had a miserable game against the Giants, and

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Speaker 2: now you're sending him to Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Where again Dallas, who's you know?

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Speaker 2: It's a very good team with an opportunistic defense playing

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Speaker 2: in the danger zone. I think here when it comes

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Speaker 5: Well, especially because when you look at the schedule he's faced.

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Speaker 5: it's going to get tough that he has a bunch

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Speaker 5: good Howel because again, this could be a bit of

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Speaker 3: I also thought we missed it on the show.

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Speaker 5: Is interesting that it was nice that Jerry Jones finally

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Speaker 5: announce Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: Johnson going to the hall, you know, the ring of ns.

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Speaker 3: You want to make a big dai.

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Speaker 5: He could have done it on Thanksgiving when this is

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Speaker 5: This and the Lions game are the two most watch

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Speaker 2: Just think how much bad blood there must have been

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Speaker 3: It's taking thirty years to get him into the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're placing with Barry Switzer.

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Speaker 3: Ego.

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Speaker 5: Ego is a problem. Who wants the credit is a problem.

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Speaker 5: This way, we need to don't do this. Craft in

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Speaker 5: Belichick was we don't got thirty years. We don't have

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Speaker 5: thirty years to waste. Well Belichick, well crafts, you know,

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Speaker 5: or craft. But I'm Strafts in his eighties right now.

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Speaker 5: Let's see if Tony Pollard can pick it up here.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys are good at everything.

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Speaker 5: They're twenty second though in rushing, and this is against

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Speaker 3: Of course, thank you, Eric. Of course it was a

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Speaker 3: number eleven.

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Speaker 2: Staff Jersey was a self personalized whole nobody probably like

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Speaker 4: Would have to have been a quarterback back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how about Dron Bland, by the way, because

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Speaker 2: Bland has become that guy. I feel like there's always

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Speaker 2: year that just has that special interception season. But he's

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Speaker 2: taking the ball back with pick sixes. He's become he's

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Speaker 6: Well, there's so these there's all these tweets out there

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if greg I don't know if

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Speaker 5: He's been solid though, even even in coverage on plays

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Speaker 5: good last year too. That they found something. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just they could get ugly but I

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Speaker 6: I's think it starts with Micah Parsons, who like last

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Speaker 6: But then go watch that Panthers game. He is destroying

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Speaker 4: He's been hit ninety two times.

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Speaker 6: I feel like Micah Parsons is like set up to

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Speaker 5: Ron Blane is your number one PFF ranked coverage? Wow

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Speaker 5: in your back. I mean Diggs was not ranking like

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Speaker 3: That's not a be all end all.

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Speaker 2: But now if if the eye test and the tape

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Speaker 2: how is he not in the defensive Player of the

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Speaker 3: I know you I haven't heard him.

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Speaker 5: Parsons that it is funny because if he was just

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Speaker 3: It feels more fluky.

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Speaker 6: Do you think if Dak Prescott goes out and has

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Speaker 6: my mind, Dan from like where you're in to go,

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Speaker 6: I'm just I see it because the way they win,

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Speaker 6: some of their biggest wins haven't really been because their offense.

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Speaker 6: But if Dak goes out in mince meets like the

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Speaker 3: No, but it hurts. I don't think there is. I

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Speaker 3: think there are the two leaders in Vegas right now.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it me I think seven weeks left,

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Speaker 5: it hasn't started.

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Speaker 3: Like none of all happened that.

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Speaker 2: I hate, sure though, but it matters whoever wants to

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Speaker 2: talk about it.

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Speaker 5: No, No, But what I mean is like nothing that's happened

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Speaker 5: to this point I think is going to impact who

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Speaker 5: and I think Dak has got to go there.

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Speaker 3: So I think Dak, I mean Dak in Apparel Universe.

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Speaker 6: He's got twelve interceptions and he's melting down, one's going crazy.

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Speaker 3: He's having a great season.

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Speaker 2: So it's funny because that guy's a chance. He'd be

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Speaker 2: a good story too.

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Speaker 3: He is, he checks a lot of the boxes.

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Speaker 2: I it's funny because I still I know the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: are going to be there in January, but Dak lighting

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Speaker 2: up the Commanders at home and Thanksgiving. I need to

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Speaker 2: see him really in a big spot in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Well gains a big time game, nothing matter.

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Speaker 2: So I always kind of doubt them because I have

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Speaker 2: questions about him, like personally in that type of environment.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, as I say all the time,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to watch it. Let's catastrophe strikes

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Speaker 3: chinx anybody.

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Speaker 2: Let's move to the final game, the Thanksgiving Night game.

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Speaker 2: See if you're following along in this, if you're tracking

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Speaker 2: the league, they it's incremental.

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Speaker 3: But the NFL babbles things up.

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Speaker 2: And about what was about ten twelve years ago, that's

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Speaker 2: when the Thanksgiving Night came as a game.

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Speaker 3: And now we got Friday as well, Easter Sunday kick off.

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Speaker 3: Maybe don't doubt it.

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Speaker 2: Let's see we have the forty nine ers traveling to

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Speaker 2: Seattle to face the Seahawks. The Seahawks have some injury

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Speaker 2: issues here. Gino Smith with the elbow. I think he's

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00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 2: tracking towards playing, but he's banged up. DK Metcalf also

444
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 2: banged up. And if you look at Seattle, Greg gets a.

445
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 2: It's a big game for them because, yes, the Niners.

446
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 2: It would be no shame if they weren't able to

447
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 2: beat the Niners at home. The Niners are arguably the

448
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 2: best team in football, if not a top three team

449
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 2: in football.

450
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 3: However, you look.

451
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 2: At the next three weeks after this at Dallas, at

452
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 2: San Francisco, VERSUS Philadelphia, they could go into a skid

453
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,439
Speaker 2: that could ruin their season. So this almost is like,

454
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: in this environment, if you get this win, you could

455
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: probably survive the rocky terrain ahead and play down the

456
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 2: stretch or the real chance the playoffs, or this thing

457
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: could start spinning out of control after a bad loss.

458
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: To the Rams.

459
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was probably about a month ago that I said, Wow,

460
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 5: I think this team has a higher ceiling than I

461
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 5: expected this season, And since then they've looked incredibly mediocre.

462
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 5: Their offense is definitely a little worse than it was

463
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 5: a year ago. It's not bad, but it's not a

464
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 5: difference maker. It's not consistent, and their defense has taken

465
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 5: a huge step back. And I just kind of think

466
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 5: when you're playing a team like the forty nine, you're

467
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 5: gonna have some things that they can pick on. You know,

468
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 5: are you physical enough to hold up to them? They

469
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 5: certainly weren't. This was a terrible matchup. They were really

470
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 5: embarrassed against the forty nine ers three times last year.

471
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 5: But it's like, what is it that you do really

472
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 5: well that can make up for that? And I don't

473
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 5: see anything with the Seahawks. They actually don't really have

474
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 5: any part of their team that's special. There's no Kenneth

475
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 5: Walker in this game. It'll be Zach Sharbonny. I don't

476
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 5: think that's a huge deal. But I worry about them

477
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 5: holding up to the physicality of the forty nine ers

478
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 5: defensive front.

479
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: Especially.

480
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I get real tired of like historical matchup data,

481
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 6: but I don't. I don't think it's unreliable. Unreliable to

482
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 6: look at last year and these teams are very similar.

483
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: It's coach totally, no, it's very similar.

484
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 6: And like I like, I go back to that Thursday

485
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 6: Night game where I thought the Gino Smith and he

486
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 6: had a great season, but it started to tail off

487
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 6: a little bit in the final, you know, third or

488
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 6: fourth and San Francisco, Like, the Niners expose Seattle in

489
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 6: a lot of ways in that game. And if you

490
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 6: go look at their weapons Christian McCaffrey at running back,

491
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel George Kittle like at the running back, wide receiver,

492
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 6: and tight end position. No other three players have had

493
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 6: more success historically against Seattle than those three players. They

494
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 6: match up really well against Seattle's defense. Right now, we're

495
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 6: getting a version of where we've woken up from the

496
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 6: dream of that brock Perty is gonna come back down

497
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 6: to be some sort of second tier mezzening level quarterback.

498
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 6: He's been absolutely awesome for two weeks in a row.

499
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 6: I don't care that this game is in Seattle. That

500
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 6: doesn't seem to me the same way it used to.

501
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 6: I think the Niners own this team, and I don't

502
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 6: think Gino Smith is healthy even if he plays.

503
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: I got some data points on Party who leads the NFL.

504
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 2: He has nearly ten yards in attempt his passer rating,

505
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: which I know is not everything, but when you're in

506
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: the he's at one point fifteen that tells you a lot.

507
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, how efficient he is. He's on pace for

508
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: over forty five hundred yards passing. He's completing seventy percent

509
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: of his passes. As you said, he's really he came

510
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: out of that slump, and it was a legitimate slump.

511
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: But the last last couple of weeks he's.

512
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 4: Wasn't like he was terrible during those in that slump either.

513
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Right, But the last two weeks he's completed seventy eight

514
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: percent of his passes, six touchdowns, no interceptions, with a

515
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: perfect passer rating. He is a guy that won't be

516
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: perfect always, but when he starts cooking in this offense

517
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: is rolling and if the defense is vulnerable, they're going

518
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: to score points. And then it's like Greg, can Seattle

519
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: keep up if this turns into a shootout, And the

520
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: way they are right now, I'm not sure.

521
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 5: Right can they take advantage of the only weakness in

522
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 5: San Francisco, which I think is their cornerbacks? But I

523
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 5: don't know if they can hold up long enough. If

524
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 5: you just looked at the numbers without any context, rock

525
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 5: Perty is your MVP.

526
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 6: Right, Why can't we Why can't anyone accept that just

527
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 6: because of the system.

528
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: I think if I think the leader in EPA per

529
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 5: play for quarterbacks has one MVP something like six out

530
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: of or like seven years in a row. Six years

531
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 5: in a row like that usually is that it kind

532
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 5: of tells you who's playing the best. And he's he's

533
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 5: so far ahead in that number that there's almost no

534
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 5: chance he's not gonna have that lead.

535
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 6: But why do we act like he's Holly Hobby just

536
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 6: because he's in a Kyle Shanahan offense.

537
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: Like he It's unfair. I think it's unfair. Well, I

538
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: think the guys, like the guys that are he's competing

539
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: against for this award, like Lamar, like Jalen Hurts like

540
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: Mahomes if that offense ever wakes up. I think they're

541
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: better players. I think everyone kind of knows that they're

542
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: better players. And I think that's what hurts pretty because

543
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: people do say he's a good player in an incredible

544
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: scheme with an amazing talent around him, and it's like, yeah,

545
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: there's no way escaping that unless he pulls up the

546
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: enemy and says, I'm gonna go go do it somewhere

547
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: else on my own. So maybe that she has to

548
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: deal with the Shanahan tacks and there are worse fates

549
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: in the world. To be honest, Mark, but I see

550
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: what you're saying. If he leads the league in like

551
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: virtually every passing category, see, and the team goes thirteen and.

552
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 6: Four to the eye like he's Josh allenis is like

553
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 6: a physical specimen Lamar's fatality.

554
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: And also they carry their offense in a way that

555
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: he doesn't a because he doesn't run, and because he

556
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: doesn't throw the ball much. I mean, those guys have

557
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 5: thrown the ball one hundred and forty more times than him,

558
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 5: so they they I think that matters.

559
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: Volume does matter a little bit. I feel your frustration.

560
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I I could argue against myself too. It's

561
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 6: just that it's like he's not even he won't even

562
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 6: get votes. Let's won't even get well.

563
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: See, can you check the Vegas odds right now for MVP,

564
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: see where perty is, because he absolutely should be in

565
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: the top three, and if.

566
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: He's not, there is a lot of bias going on it.

567
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 6: By the way, how about Seattle go take care of

568
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 6: business against the Rams before this insane Like.

569
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, classic classic game. I don't buy them, classic trap game.

570
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 5: I think Chase Young has really changed their defense the

571
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: way they were using him in both to kind of

572
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 5: like in the A gaps as like linebackers or something.

573
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: It was kind of crazy.

574
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: Eric Armstead had his most pressures of any game in

575
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: his career last week on top of that, and I

576
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 5: think that's partly because opposing offensive lines have so much

577
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 5: to deal with in the Seattle offensive line is terrible.

578
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 3: It's been terrible. Hey, guys, real quick before we move on.

579
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 8: I'm seeing on DraftKings right now brought pretty plus fifteen

580
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 8: hundred for MV people.

581
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: Well, what notice.

582
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 8: That would be behind Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes Tua.

583
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: So that would be fifth Holmes. Well that's pretty high though.

584
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, Holmes is going to get the opposite tacks because

585
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 8: no matter what, DA you got Dak Prescott right behind

586
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 8: him at plus fifteen hundred, C J. Stroud plus eighteen

587
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 8: and CMC fifth plus twenty two.

588
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: Totally out of the mix. So okay, he might be

589
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: creeping up.

590
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: It says something that is running back is the first

591
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 4: non quarterback on that list.

592
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: That would I if I had a vote today, I'm

593
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 5: putting tyreek Kill number one. It is crazy that Tyreek

594
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 5: Kill's not in the top ten there.

595
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

596
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: He's on pace for two thousand yards that big season.

597
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 5: To me, he's been the most excellent player this season.

598
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 5: It's crazy, all right.

599
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: So those are the Thanksgiving games.

600
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Now, for the first time ever, as I said, we

601
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 2: have a Black Friday game. It is the Jets and

602
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: the Dolphins at the Metal Lands and it is a

603
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: new quarterback for the Jets.

604
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Tim Boyle will be starting.

605
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson demoted all the way to emergency backup quarterback,

606
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: so with Trevor Simmons the number two. So that is

607
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: the sad state of affairs around the Jets and now

608
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: becomes greg. This game and the idea of this game

609
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: being enjoyable to watch comes down to a couple of things.

610
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: One anybody other than Zach Wilson.

611
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: So at least you get another quarterback who maybe has

612
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: a more professional ability to move an offense, and maybe.

613
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: The Jets could score a couple touchdowns.

614
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: But ken the Jets defense, which finally led up and

615
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: got beat up by Buffalo last week, are they going

616
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: to be able to cook up some things to slow

617
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: down to it in the Dolphins offense, which as we

618
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: know has happened in multiple points this season against good defenses.

619
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: Right, really, for the last month, when was the last

620
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: great to a game? All right, let's look at it.

621
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: I mean the Eagles game. I think he played very well.

622
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: It didn't show up statistically, but it would be the

623
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: week before that. We've gone basically a month without a

624
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: dominant Dolphins offensive performance by basically any metric you looked at. Offensively,

625
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 5: they've been average for a month now. Their defense is

626
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 5: getting much better, but you just see little cracks. They're

627
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 5: terrible in short yard they can't buy a yard when

628
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: it's third and one, fourth and one.

629
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: They never just like run the ball normally.

630
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 5: Their offensive line, which started out pretty in sync, you

631
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 5: see some leaks there. And this is a very tough

632
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: matchup against the Jets. So while this game is not

633
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 5: as nearly excited as I would have expected go into

634
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 5: the season, the Dolphins are still a very compelling team

635
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 5: at seven and three, trying to win this division, and

636
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: when they have the ball that this is an outstanding

637
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 5: test for them. If they're who we think they are,

638
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: they should be able to put some points up eventually

639
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 5: and pull away in this game.

640
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 6: Last week against the Raiders. They kept getting in their

641
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 6: own way. They had three giveaways, like Tua finally looked

642
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 6: human on a number of passes. They had a yet again,

643
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 6: a turnover you know inside the five yard line.

644
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 3: I mean that kind of stuff, but little snappy. It

645
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: was sloppy.

646
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: But then it's like over and over like Tyreek Hill

647
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 6: kept digging them out. And I'm with you on the

648
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 6: MVP thing, but it's like no one could stop what

649
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 6: he was doing. And it's like, you're gonna get a

650
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 6: couple of those, and I think we're at the point,

651
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 6: and I think what happened. One of the reasons you

652
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 6: got this quarterback change in New York, I mean it

653
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 6: should have happened a long time ago, was that the

654
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 6: defense can't do it alone. And I think a change

655
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 6: for the sake of change was needed. And Tim Boyle

656
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 6: new face. But like Tim Boyle, if you look at

657
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: it in college, and you don't get a lot of

658
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 6: pro quarterbacks where this has happened in college, twelve touchdowns

659
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 6: and twenty six interceptions, that is not That is not

660
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 6: where an NFL quarterback comes from from a collegiate level.

661
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: And Thanksgiving a couple of years ago didn't well he was.

662
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 6: He's played for Detroit a number of times, and you know,

663
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: so I just I wonder what I Honestly, I was thinking,

664
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 6: like what if I were the Jets, what would I do?

665
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: Like what do you do differently?

666
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 6: And like I would literally think about just morphine out

667
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 6: of nowhere on Black Friday into like a surprise wildcat

668
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 6: type game where Breis Hall touches the ball, like yeah,

669
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 6: but they don't have an offensive line, so I change

670
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 6: all sorts of things. I'm just saying, do something that expected.

671
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: Also, there are a lot of things going on here.

672
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle is good buddies with Aaron Rodgers, like this

673
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: is everything has kind of.

674
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Gone like the worst way.

675
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: Well, they sign up for this, so this is they

676
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: got in bed with Rogers and and they get all

677
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: the bad stuff and none of the good stuff because

678
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: he's not playing.

679
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: So now you have boil in the building.

680
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: Probably because the Rodgers, you have Hacketts still the offense,

681
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: and almost any other offensive coordinator at the very least

682
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: would have lost his play calling duties by now, and

683
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: many would be fired. And we're gonna get to Matt

684
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Canada who lost his job, but he's still there.

685
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: So they are complete.

686
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett, Thanks, it's nice to see you out here.

687
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: We are a long way from Hard Knocks when he

688
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: was this cute figure. And you know he's gonna be

689
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: there next year as well because he is Aaron Rodgers's boy,

690
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: so you have they are kind of caught in this

691
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: like tornado of Rogers, and they, like you said, signed

692
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: up for it. So I guess my only thought with

693
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: that is maybe Boyle is a professional to the point

694
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: where he could see the field and pull the trigger

695
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: and just make basic plays that Wilson just couldn't even make.

696
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: It as though he's like he's sort of the opposite

697
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: of that.

698
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: He's like a big arm guy who's gonna like make

699
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: some crazy thrill you know, mistakes.

700
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's just an I don't think anybody has high

701
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: optimism around this stark boil, but it's not Zach Wilson.

702
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: All it needs to be right and that's right now,

703
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: You're right, that's all it needs to be. And if

704
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: you're the Dolphins and your Dolphins fans like Handsome Hank

705
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: and everyone else, you could essentially end the Jets season

706
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: here because I thought going into this one two punch

707
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: of for the Jets Buffalo Miami. Coming off those two losses,

708
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: ugly losses against the Chargers and Raiders, the Jets had

709
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: to win one of them, and so I didn't think

710
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: they had a swing. They had at least win one

711
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: and then stop the bleeding. They get killed by Buffalo.

712
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: If the Jets get smoked again here, not only I

713
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: think for all intensive purposes, is it over the Aaron

714
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers coming back on Christmas Eve. I think they need

715
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: to pump the brakes on that and whether Aaron Rodgers

716
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: wants to come back or not, and and slow things down.

717
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: But maybe we get an inspired defensive effort and boil

718
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, hits a slanted Garrett Wilson that goes for

719
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: seventy and they hang around in this game.

720
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: That's a different Dolphins defense with Jalen Ramsey though.

721
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it really him and Jalen Phillips. They have too.

722
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: He's been very good premiere players and they're they're getting better.

723
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 5: But this is a Dolphins team that look at home. Uh,

724
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: we're trying to stop Aidan O'Connell two different times from

725
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: scoring a game tight in touchdown late in the fourth quarter.

726
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: So it's they're not above maybe.

727
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 6: Differing that was, but they also picked them off three time,

728
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 6: like they also coaxed.

729
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: They happened, and they were the better team in the game.

730
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: But you know they both both Ramsey picks insane, we're

731
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 5: incredible play.

732
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: So he's turned back the clock.

733
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: He's I was wondering whether he would be the same

734
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: player he was with the Rams, which wasn't top form

735
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: Ramsey last year.

736
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: But he looks like a revitalized and healthy He's a

737
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 5: weird career. He either is like the best cornerback in

738
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 5: the league or not that close, but he's been the

739
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: best cornerback like four times.

740
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's now move to the primetime games, starting

741
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: with Sunday Night Football.

742
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens.

743
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: They could have well, they didn't do it alone because

744
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: the injury to quarterback plays a big role, but they

745
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: might have ended the Bengals season last Thursday night.

746
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: And you know, I have a bone to pick. I

747
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: didn't bring it up on the Thursday recap.

748
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: I am filing a formal protest in the lock Challenge

749
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: to get all the data removed from the season because

750
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: I would have never locked the Bengals on the road

751
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: against the Ravens if I knew the quarterback Joe Burrow

752
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: had a busted wrist, they hid that from me as well, Greg,

753
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: and that I would have never eradicate the entire Yeah,

754
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: the whole thing needs this way a bomb dropped on it.

755
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Listen to the preview when I locked up the Bengals,

756
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: I basically said, this is a bad pick, but I

757
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: believe in Joe Burrow, and it's me and Joe against

758
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: the world, and they were hiding a crippling wrist injury.

759
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: How dare you.

760
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 5: The Bengals single handedly took you down because I remember

761
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: you went against You went against them when they played

762
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 5: the Niners, and then you said you're going to pick

763
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 5: them every week.

764
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: They they ended my season as well. I lost three weeks.

765
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: I could vote to have you have a chance. This

766
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: was to have two locks. This week they're showing up.

767
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: They're showing the standings here. I didn't one the Wesleyan

768
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Brose eight and three and hands and Sessler five and

769
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: if you added that's rough. But we're going to eradicate this.

770
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, this means nothing.

771
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: I'm fine with that. I've been trying to do that

772
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 5: for years, and you know what, the well, this season

773
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 5: or we could just start from scratch. From scratch, season

774
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: doesn't start till after thanks.

775
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: I don't support that.

776
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I think the zoo keeper Nick Westling, by the way,

777
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: he's eight and three, and he was, you know, he

778
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: was starting to feel out what he was like the

779
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: character he's building for the show. And by the way,

780
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: Chris watching down wherever, he is having a ball watching Nick,

781
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: enjoying himself and feeling himself on the show.

782
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: But remember he.

783
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: Was leaning a little too hard if you look at

784
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: some of those early picks, like Showman type picks that

785
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: were really overly risky.

786
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 3: Jets I believe Jetsick was in the mix. He got

787
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: the jets against the giants. That was the lot.

788
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was another, but there was I think

789
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season, I wonder if he

790
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: could do it over again, he would have rained in

791
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: the Showman and maybe he'd be with Greg at ten

792
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: and well, but they haven't lost in weeks.

793
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he can't help it. It's a two

794
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: horse race. It's about me there. He is the great

795
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: Chris Westling. You know, I was thinking.

796
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: That Chris and Lakeisha lived a town away from where

797
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: I am now, like going on double dates with Chris

798
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: and Lakisha and maybe we'd all be together on Thanksgiving.

799
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 6: That well, there were a number of times that West

800
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 6: and I came over after that first Seattle San Francisco game,

801
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 6: we came over to your place.

802
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: You even had macaroni only come I've ever eaten mac

803
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: and chee. It was Texas style.

804
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: It had a little bit of a different consistency that

805
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: I think you open a base or whatever.

806
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: But yes, Chris was with us right now. You know,

807
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 3: he pops up in your mind.

808
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 5: I think that in the holidays when my family leaves me,

809
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: they were my adopted family during the holidays, spend.

810
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Christmas, always open arms in the Westlings with Lakeisha. Happy

811
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving to Lakisha and Link and everyone back in Saint Louis.

812
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: All right, here we go, Here we go, here we go.

813
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: Where were you?

814
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

815
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Cincinnati Bengals screwed me, and that's the past.

816
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: Now the Ravens at eight and three with a real

817
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: chance here at the number one seed, and the AFC

818
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: get a Chargers team. I don't know, Mark, they stink.

819
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: That's all that's my data points on this one. They

820
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: keep getting primetime game, but we wanted to make the

821
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: Chargers a thing this year. The league wanted to make

822
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: them a thing, and they're just never going to be

823
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: a thing, at least not with Brandon Staley. No, we're

824
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: maybe with Bill Belichick.

825
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

826
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, So it'll start all over again, sure in the

827
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 6: off season, but we're post Chargers at this point.

828
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: We talked about it a lot on Sunday night.

829
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 6: How you know, the Brandon Staley press conference for me

830
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 6: marked like a bookend where he just became.

831
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: So the beginning of the end.

832
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's like, you know that that stuff matters.

833
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 6: You gotta wonder what's happening with the locker room because

834
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 6: I see its like it is sort of two lightning

835
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: rod quarterbacks that have their little flocks, And like Lamar

836
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 6: Jackson experience is that he's in a team that's very

837
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 6: well coached and Brandon Staley is coaching the other quarterback,

838
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, who has like lost more one score games

839
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 6: over the past couple of seasons than any quarterback in

840
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 6: the league. And it's not his fault. The defense that

841
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 6: should be Staley's staple has allowed three hundred yards passing

842
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 6: in half of their ten games. So this is a

843
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 6: big opportunity for Baltimore to come into the on the road,

844
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 6: into an un problematic stadium. It's gonna be a Ravens

845
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 6: crowd probably like every other week, but you don't have

846
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 6: Mark Andrews, and I that's Mark Andrews has accounted for

847
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 6: twenty percent of their yardage through the air and half

848
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 6: of Lamar Jackson's touchdowns, and I think that's a big loss.

849
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: He's the core of that offense.

850
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 6: It's like a lot of pressure on Odell Beckham, who's

851
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 6: arrow up last couple of weeks. But I don't know

852
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 6: if I don't know if if like without without Mark Andrews,

853
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: you're not the same offense.

854
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 5: It's funny because even before Andrews got hurt, my number

855
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 5: one concern I thought, the one thing that's gonna decide

856
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: whether the Ravens can maybe go win this super Bowl

857
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 5: or not is can the wide receivers and Lamar be

858
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: consistent and explosive enough on a week to week basis

859
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 5: to go win a shit Because I think they have

860
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: the opportunity. I think they've shown flashes, hasn't been consistent.

861
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: This matchup is great for that, Matt, you know, for

862
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: that happening because there's always blown coverages. You look last week,

863
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: the defenders are talking right before the Packers hit some

864
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 5: big plays down the field. They're not clear on assignments.

865
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: Everything is just counting on Herbert to play his best.

866
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 5: I think he's played easily his best two games of

867
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: the season in a row the last two weeks, and

868
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: they lost. They lost them both. I mean easily is

869
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 5: best too. And I saw a stat It was from

870
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: our June Manan not familiar with him before. He has

871
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: some good stats, he pointed out since week two, if

872
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: you just have the Charger's success rate on running plays

873
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: since then, it would be the worst rushing team in

874
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 5: the last decade. That's how bad they are on a

875
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 5: down to down basis running. So they have so many

876
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: different things going wrong from them. I couldn't believe it.

877
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: We'll see that uh Eckler run I was talking about. Yes, yeah,

878
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 5: that was put the piano on the back.

879
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: That was not great.

880
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: That was Kellen Moore was brought into change all.

881
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: Then, so they they like you worry about Brandonsdale a

882
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: little bit in a primetime game.

883
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: Primetime games are kind of when changes sometimes happened.

884
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: And I looked at the number at this game, and

885
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: it's three and a half, and I'm thinking that's crazy

886
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 5: for it to be three and a half. And you

887
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 5: know how they have those little sides on the on

888
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: the Sofi stadium.

889
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: It's not totally a closed air environment.

890
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: Yes, and at night sometimes you coming in sideways.

891
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: Why for the holiday season, we're.

892
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: Gonna be helping out all the boys and girls in

893
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: the land.

894
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: It's gotta be raining in.

895
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 5: Las Vegas, Los Angeles Sunnday night.

896
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: And we're locking it up too, We're doubling it up.

897
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: We're double double the pleasure. This is all right, little.

898
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: Gravy, you mix everything together, the collar greens, the mashed potatoes.

899
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta watch this on whatever best channel

900
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: or YouTube just to see the rain maker video component here.

901
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: It's so timid.

902
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 6: It's not Craig at his most handsombod, because he's a

903
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: handsome person in general.

904
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: Why did so Erica created this?

905
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: You're saying, and it was after a fight that you

906
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: guys had a very volcanic relationship to you, Is that

907
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: a vengeance? You're wearing your glasses, so you must add

908
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: like some type of maybe.

909
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: A stigma or you know, I like guy glasses. But

910
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: I definitely why this was. This was a path not

911
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 5: taken at you.

912
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: Look like Greg, Well, that's or I guess for you

913
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: a bar mitzvah.

914
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: No, this is I'm the state farm agent and I'm

915
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 5: gonna get you a good, good price on that home Homonado.

916
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice. I like it, is this your

917
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: lock of the week or I'm locking it up to

918
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: I'm locking it up? Oh, it's a double up, doubble

919
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: Max missmashing. What could go right?

920
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: You've really you've went from picking the Chargers to win

921
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl to just going way on the other

922
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: side of them. But I can't question anything, Greg, because

923
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: you've had the golden touch this year with really everything.

924
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: But I also I have to say I think it

925
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: needs to be said this close to the holidays.

926
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: To pull the rain maker. You know, there's gonna be

927
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there.

928
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: They're going to go all in those because they have

929
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: because Santi class has to come to town, you know

930
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: what I mean? Yep uh, And you understand there's a

931
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: great responsibility that you have here to make sure this

932
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: one's right.

933
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: I do, but look, I'm I don't tell what our

934
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: listeners what to do all. I'm saying, if you had

935
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 5: just been following our locks every week for eleven straight

936
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: weeks and doing the money line, you'd be doing pretty well.

937
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: Be doing it. We're in a show.

938
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 6: We're recovering sixteen games, which is so we're going to

939
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: have I would say four to five more sell promotional

940
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 6: dialogues from.

941
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: Greg Monday Night Football. Let's move on, And I'm with you.

942
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens and the Chargers are two franchises

943
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: going in opposite directions. So but I would never put

944
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: someone else's money and Christmas Morning on the line, profession.

945
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: That's some people have different viewpoints on society and what

946
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: they give to it.

947
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 9: All.

948
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: Right, here we go the Bears. What do we got?

949
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: What are the Bears doing here? What have we got?

950
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: Bears in print time? Again? Why are we doing this?

951
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: Nobody wants us? I don't know.

952
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: We've had this conversation one year after year.

953
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: No, the Bears are the last place in the North.

954
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: Justin Field's playing, of course, for a future in Chicago,

955
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: and they get the Vikings, the team of around the

956
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: NFL that had a gut punch loss on Sunday Night Football.

957
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: As we all know, twenty one twenty to the Broncos.

958
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: But here here is a very nice get right spot

959
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: both teams. That's their last game before they go into

960
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: a bye week. I I absolutely believe that the Vikings

961
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: would will take care of business in in.

962
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: Easy, easy manner against.

963
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: The Bears and by feeling good because they are the

964
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: team around the NFL, and I think Josh Jobbs is

965
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: gonna really have a big day, and when they get

966
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: back from the bye, they'll be comfortably in the playoff

967
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: picture with Justin Jefferson hopefully back.

968
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: On the field.

969
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 6: I'm with you, and I'm I agree with you so

970
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 6: much that with this music as the background, I am

971
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 6: locking this team.

972
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: Up instead of like, are they in the are they

973
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: in the zone? Sure? Yeah, I'm sure I didn't look

974
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: three and a half.

975
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: The Bears are getting Oh I'm with you, buddy, Let's

976
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: do it, lockbros.

977
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: All right, we're in last.

978
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 5: Does not make great as a fan of the team

979
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: around the NFL, but let's go, come on, let's go. Why, Greg,

980
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 5: I guess you could look just because of your records,

981
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 5: but also actually the Bears are played.

982
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: Well, Whe're zero zero? Yeah?

983
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: Because I just got breaking news, breaking news, just heard

984
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: from Paul Giamatti, son of Bartlett Giamatti, commissioner of the

985
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: Lock Committee.

986
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: Oh yes, they are.

987
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: They are wiping clean because of the Joe Burrow injury,

988
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 2: a failure for an injury designation in the week eleven

989
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: Thursday night affair against the Raves.

990
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: Wiping all standing, so five losses. Talk to Paul Giamatti.

991
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 4: It'll drop a food coloring in a glass of water there.

992
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing.

993
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: I'm a little worried about this game for the Vikings though,

994
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 5: just because Beild's played awesome last week. I thought he

995
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: was the best, you know, one of the best players

996
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 5: on the field, one of his best games. It's coming

997
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 5: off two really good performances before he got hurt.

998
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: As well.

999
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 5: Their defense has been better slash respectable. I get why

1000
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 5: it's three and a half. Like I've I'm taking the

1001
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: Vikings certainly in this game, but the Bears are trend

1002
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: in a little up. There's no justin Jefferson, like every

1003
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 5: game is in advance that horn again, that's what I'm saying.

1004
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 6: I'm with you writing in the sense that like you

1005
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 6: can look at how the game started up until you

1006
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: know the collapse against Detroit and say, have the Bears

1007
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 6: turned the corner.

1008
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: A little bit? They were dominating that game, that's what.

1009
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: But then you also collapsed, But like that was that defensively? Yeah?

1010
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: But I like to see the ceiling versus where they

1011
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 6: were two months ago.

1012
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: Why are we getting this this audio? By the way,

1013
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: what do you mean the.

1014
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: Team around the unabl This is like the thing they played,

1015
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh Mark, come on, you don't know they blow the horn.

1016
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: The whole I like, I'd like to just play at

1017
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: the whole show that part.

1018
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: I know you know this one, Yes, I do. I've

1019
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: heard that roughly seven thousand times. All Right, anything else

1020
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: on this game. Got to keep that running game going.

1021
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 5: I like that they got Madison for the first time

1022
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: in forever last week.

1023
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: All right, there we go.

1024
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 2: So that is the Thanksgiving games, Black Friday, prime time.

1025
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: We'll take a break and when we come back, we'll

1026
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: do the draft. All right, welcome back. It is time

1027
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: for the draft. Everybody get ready. It's time for the

1028
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: first overall pick, presented by DraftKings.

1029
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: Sess Dog. He's the sess Dog. Do we have, By

1030
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: the way, do we have the cess dog song? How

1031
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: about that cess Dog song? To get the draft going.

1032
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: Wasn't aware of that. I didn't know. Oh the sess dog.

1033
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: Guess what, buddy, we got something for you. Really.

1034
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, now we're all back together in the studio for

1035
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: the first time.

1036
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: Well, let me hear it before I comment on it.

1037
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Muck says the love. Everybody. Just listen up,

1038
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 9: Tom for you to hear my stuff. Everybody can't get enough.

1039
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 9: And Muck says the love everybody. Just listen up, Tom

1040
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 9: for you to hear my stuff. Everybody can't get enough.

1041
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: Foot gold side foot, gold side up.

1042
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 7: What do you think about it's catchy?

1043
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: I could I could imagine playing in a loop in

1044
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: my car where I.

1045
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: Think it captures the spirit of marsh very right, said Freddish.

1046
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Definitely, you're inside Mark's brain on like a Saturday.

1047
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: That's what I'm telling myself over and over.

1048
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: I repeat that, Wane. I know who did it, Hobart, Curtis.

1049
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: Only a man named Hobart or Hobart could have something

1050
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: that genius inside his own mind.

1051
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could be a pen name or a artistic cover.

1052
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 6: But I like it. Thank you Hobart.

1053
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: All right, you have the first pack.

1054
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna take Cleveland at Denver. I know

1055
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 6: last week I didn't go there in that direction. I

1056
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 6: got a lot of hubb up. And it's like, I like,

1057
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 6: I want to make one thing real clear, real fast.

1058
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 6: Like I'm getting all these tweets like, oh, are you

1059
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 6: like a Browns fan against Like I don't like anything

1060
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 6: they've done over the last year in terms of one

1061
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 6: specific subject, Like I can care about some of the

1062
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: other players, and I kind of think this team is

1063
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 6: a little bit interesting to me because they had they

1064
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 6: were a rotting corpse on defense for so long, and

1065
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 6: this is a weird team and you're saying yes, by

1066
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 6: the way, for It's just like no, It's like I

1067
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 6: haven't really It's like I'm not dancing around. It's like

1068
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: I just I don't. I'm getting people saying like, oh,

1069
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 6: you like backed off and this, like but if you

1070
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 6: just say, well, it's gonna, I just I just said

1071
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 6: it basically, I'm watching this defense gonna Actually.

1072
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1073
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 6: And I'm not like like I think a couple of

1074
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 6: years from now, I could come back and be a

1075
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 6: full fledged Browns fan.

1076
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: That is what I would say.

1077
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: And it's like it's the insinuations left and right are

1078
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 6: me are like foggy and stupid. So it's like, please

1079
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 6: leave it alone.

1080
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: So in a couple of years you'll be a Browns

1081
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 3: fan again.

1082
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm not right now in the way that I

1083
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 6: was before, and that never will be the same case.

1084
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: I don't how to describe it, just will never be

1085
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 4: the same.

1086
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: All right, with your first overall picks, the Browns go ahead.

1087
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: I am taking this game. I think this is you know,

1088
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: for two reasons.

1089
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 6: Then Weeks go ahead, Mark no, for two reasons because

1090
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 6: I think this team is kind of fascinating to watch,

1091
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 6: Like their defense is historically insane, and they have created

1092
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 6: If they had a more competent offense, like I think

1093
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 6: they'd be fairly unstoppable as an overall team. Because they've

1094
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 6: forced three and outs at a higher rate than any

1095
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 6: club this entire century.

1096
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: That's not easy to do, it's it's over fifty percent.

1097
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 6: Because of this, the Browns offense has run one hundred

1098
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 6: and eighty two more plays than their opponents, which is

1099
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 6: more than double than the next team.

1100
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

1101
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 6: Like they are shutting down drives and their offense is

1102
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 6: being given the ball back at a quicker, faster, more

1103
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 6: dangerous pace. But Cleveland's offense is twenty ninth and EPA

1104
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 6: per game, twenty third in points per drive, and thirtieth

1105
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 6: in yards per play. We know they're working around injuries,

1106
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 6: but it's like the one thing I find interesting is

1107
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 6: that there isn't this is the opposite of a fractured team.

1108
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: Like that would be the like they're winning, so that

1109
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 6: changes some of it, but this would be the medicine

1110
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 6: or the setup for like the defense to be revolting instead,

1111
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 6: like everything they've said, everything they've done as an overall

1112
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 6: group has been the opposite of that.

1113
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: I think that's to the credit of Kevin Stefanski, who.

1114
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: All, as you win, as long as you win it,

1115
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: you won't have players only meeting right, you won't have

1116
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: rumbling from wide receivers.

1117
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 5: Also won the game thirty nine to thirty eight and

1118
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 5: thirty three to thirty one, so they the defense knows

1119
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 5: that in some big spots their offense has actually bailed

1120
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 5: them out.

1121
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 6: Yes, that was with That's true, there were different players involved.

1122
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: At that point.

1123
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 6: But I would just say, like, this is not This

1124
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 6: Denver team is completely different than the team that we

1125
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 6: focused on early.

1126
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: They're like fifth in defense overall.

1127
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 6: Right now in over the last five weeks like they've

1128
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 6: been we saw them on Monday night or on Sunday

1129
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 6: night look much more competent on offense too.

1130
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: And that's been the case with Russell Wilson for a while.

1131
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 6: And I will say, when you go into out the

1132
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 6: altitude thing, I'll never forget.

1133
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: I went with a f with a couple of families went.

1134
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 6: On a ski trip to Colorado back when I was

1135
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 6: like in sixth grade, and like, you fly into Denver

1136
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 6: and you think, like this is gonna be fine, We're

1137
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 6: gonna go skiing, and like me and this girl from

1138
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 6: another family like had to stay home the first day

1139
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 6: and watch like, you know, I love Lucy all morning

1140
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 6: because we could we were like throwing up left and

1141
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 6: right with altitude sickness.

1142
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: So I always factor that in.

1143
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: Okay time in Denver historically toughy atmosphere. I I think

1144
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: mark that and you look at like their schedule the

1145
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: rest of the way, I pretty much see all games

1146
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: that are going to come down to about a field goal.

1147
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: I think that's just who the the way the offense

1148
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: is built. And you got to give Thompson Robinson some

1149
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: credit because he made throws that you know, kind of

1150
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: got to make to be playing at this level. But

1151
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: on that last drive he hit, he hit on three

1152
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: completions that got him in field goal range and then

1153
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: they get the kick and away we go. I think

1154
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna be white knuckling it throughout the season here.

1155
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: But they have something special. Every team needs something special

1156
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: if you want to play in January football that counts

1157
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: like and they have this defense. So as long as

1158
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: the offense doesn't blow their season, and I don't think

1159
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: they will because I think they're gonna. I think Stefanski

1160
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: is gonna play this right where He's not gonna He's

1161
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: gonna play a conservative game. So I think thirteen to

1162
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: ten type games are gonna happen a lot, and I

1163
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen here against Denver as well.

1164
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 5: Right, they look they're kind of in a similar spot

1165
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 5: as the Jets, except they have a better defense ultimately

1166
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 5: as schedules helped, but a better defense and a better

1167
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 5: play caller I think is important, a better overall offensive system.

1168
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 5: That the Broncos are two and a half point favorites

1169
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 5: in this game. The over unders thirty five, but that

1170
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: is so so low, But I totally get it. I

1171
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 5: like the Browns in this game. I took the Browns

1172
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 5: last week. I hope Cess Spice, you know, finally gets

1173
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 5: on board with the Browns in Sesspice.

1174
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 6: Spice doesn't know this, but Cess made an alteration to

1175
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 6: the Sesspice picks and the brown Wow.

1176
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 2: It's like a It's almost like a head coach making

1177
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: a change of play caller because it is a certain point.

1178
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: It's your responsibility.

1179
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: It is not Spice, sess It's says Spice, to control

1180
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: the enterprise and do what's right for the entire next week.

1181
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 6: I made because I think I'm I'm working with a savant, right,

1182
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 6: I really do.

1183
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: I think this is a reckoning.

1184
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 5: Though for Russell Wilson, I'm a little tired of like

1185
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 5: the old Russ is back and oh you hate it. Well,

1186
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 5: first of all, he's nowhere near the old Russ. It's

1187
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 5: not what we're saying.

1188
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: They're treating him like he's saying that he's a rookie quarterback.

1189
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: Second, thank your straw man with you. It's it's not

1190
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: a straw man. There's a lot of like they're doing

1191
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 5: a great job. At some point they have to advance

1192
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: from where they are by far the fewest air yards

1193
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: in the league per throw Russell Wilson. So they're treating

1194
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 5: him like he's Dorian Thompson Robinson. His career, he's never

1195
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 5: been under eight point two. He's at six point eight

1196
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 5: right now.

1197
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: They're playing really well and he's a lot of like

1198
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: big throws for them. And sure you know that he's

1199
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: not gonna because the defense has given them twelve extra possessions.

1200
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: The last the idea was entering the season that he

1201
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 3: was cooked. He's most of us. He would have been

1202
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: benched by now.

1203
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: I think this if he can be effective against the Browns,

1204
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 5: and I don't mean like light him up, but not

1205
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: be a reason that they lose.

1206
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: That that would say a lot. I have my dat

1207
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: he's not dangerous anymore. No, but he's he's not. You know,

1208
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: he's still there in trench starter and.

1209
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 5: No, he reminds me so much of tempers are good

1210
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 5: under Sean Payon, that's exactly.

1211
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: You love Teddy Bridgewater, right, you love him more than

1212
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: you love your children, And here you are berrying russ Still,

1213
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: what is it? What is pretty good counter?

1214
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 5: I'm not burying him. It's a good counter. Like just

1215
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 5: like the let's come down, all right.

1216
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: I hear, and I know generally what you mean.

1217
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 6: Find me the people that are hyped up though, I mean,

1218
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 6: I think people are just saying he's not last right.

1219
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 5: I guess I would just push back on you saying

1220
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: like they're so they're different defensively than they were the

1221
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 5: first five weeks. They've been the same offensive team, basically.

1222
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 6: I said, I said defense last five weeks they've got

1223
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 6: like forty two turnovers.

1224
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: That was the game of the week.

1225
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,279
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1230
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1231
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 5: Great, Let's do Bill's Eagles. That's the Tony Romo Jim

1232
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 5: Nance game. Nice game?

1233
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: Why didn't you take this one more? Because I know

1234
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 3: what happens.

1235
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 6: Everyone is going to be watching this, So it's like,

1236
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 6: I don't like that dynamic where I pick a game

1237
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: that seventeen people are talking about the same time.

1238
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 5: WHOA, that's an interesting interesting Why does that you already

1239
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 5: knew that that.

1240
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 6: Happened when I picked Cowboys Eagles, And it's like, why

1241
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 6: am I reporting on this game?

1242
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: I love it, like this game's mine. I don't want

1243
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: your opinion. By nature.

1244
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 6: By nature, reporters should be be able to offer something

1245
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 6: that the people he's reporting there doesn't know. And it's

1246
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 6: like I'm talking to people who isn't that.

1247
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 5: I'd rather that than in the end, we all kind

1248
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 5: of honk on all the games. So I'd rather have

1249
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 5: the game where other people are giving more and.

1250
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 4: For I want to see how the altitude affects.

1251
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: The kind of open That was an eye opener there,

1252
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: that was It is not an unusual or new comment

1253
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: for me. And once again for the second straight week,

1254
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: you're messing with the sanctity of the draft. You know,

1255
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: I like the first pick, like a big game. We

1256
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: get into it, I'm excited.

1257
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 4: There's nothing I could have done that you would not

1258
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: have found a way to need.

1259
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: To take Buffalo Philly one. And then you go back

1260
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: and I'm bored with the Bills. Okay, go ahead, you

1261
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: start then why you're bored? Wow, I am, I'm over it.

1262
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: Not only is he doesn't want to talk about the

1263
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 3: game and he's taking my game. I'm he's introduced. There

1264
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: you go. I like, I am, I am bored with

1265
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: the Bills. I like, I want to I want you

1266
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: to continue that first of.

1267
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 6: All, Like I just feel the energy around them. It's

1268
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 6: like I feel like Othery're on every week on national television.

1269
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 6: It's like an up and down affair. It's like good

1270
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, bad Josh Allen? Like you fight, you used

1271
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 6: your play caller as your scapegoat scenario. Who's the next scapegoat?

1272
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: Because if they can.

1273
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: Take wait, wait a second, they had a really nice showing.

1274
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: They won thirty two to six. You know, the Jets

1275
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: are free fire. You didn't need like that.

1276
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 6: Like I thought that move was suspicious and it signaled

1277
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 6: to me something weird going on.

1278
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: We all agree with that that general feeling around Buffalo.

1279
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: But in the here and now, they had had an

1280
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: eighty run eighty yard played a shakiir and a beautiful

1281
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: throw by Awn.

1282
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 3: They played mistake free football for the most part.

1283
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: They were everything that I think with Sean mcdermotd was

1284
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: hoping would come out of that firing, which was the

1285
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 2: offense looking good, the team playing cohesively.

1286
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: He beat a broken down Jets team that's all passed

1287
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: like they got an Eagles matchup. They got everything in

1288
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 5: front of them. They're six and five. I think this

1289
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: can still be a playoff team. I think this Eagles

1290
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 5: team has not been as good as their record, and

1291
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 5: I am curious just this is a spot here for

1292
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 5: the Bills to change their season and and I think

1293
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 5: I think they can do it. I am curious what

1294
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 5: they'll do on offense a little bit. You know, has

1295
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 5: emerged as their second best wide receiver in my mind,

1296
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 5: Kincaid has emerged as a big time player that they

1297
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 5: started getting back into the two tight ends last week

1298
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: with Quinton Morris on the field, and they've been running well,

1299
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 5: like this is a chance for a team that's been

1300
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 5: consistently at the top of the game to basically erase

1301
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 5: everything that's happened before you go win this game. They

1302
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 5: know how big a game is. You did sense a

1303
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: different back against the wall type of energy with them,

1304
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 5: with with Digs on the sideline and given all this

1305
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 5: leadership talk and him and Alan are like loving each other.

1306
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 5: I know it's easier when it was win, but even

1307
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 5: early in that game, I just sense this is a

1308
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 5: team that knows this is a big type of big

1309
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: time of season. They've been in some big time games,

1310
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: and I kind of think they're gonna win this game.

1311
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if that's I mean, I think

1312
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: it's a coin flip, but I kind of lie them in.

1313
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: I feel like they are.

1314
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: A very tough team to figure out what happens next

1315
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: in their season, because it is there is plenty of

1316
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: talent there, and they have a special quarterback who's been

1317
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: mistake prone. But maybe it come to Jesus moment with

1318
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: how things played out the last couple of weeks, and yes,

1319
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: this is such a huge inflection point moment in their

1320
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: season at Philly against an Eagles team that is, yes,

1321
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: has one loss to the Jets. Weirdly, but week after

1322
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: week I watch them and I say, it's not like

1323
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: this team can't get picked off, and they're very good

1324
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: at home and I very nearly lock them actually today,

1325
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: But even as I was thinking to myself, I was like,

1326
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, do I really think that Philly,

1327
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: in this kind of in their rocking chair right now

1328
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: at nine to one, is a team that is safe

1329
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: against the Buffalo team that's kind of got to have

1330
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: it with after their bye they are at.

1331
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: Kansas City v. Dallas.

1332
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: They they kind of this is in a lot of ways,

1333
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: and you know McDermott and behind the scenes, the way

1334
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: they're talking about like this is our season right here,

1335
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: it's our chance to make a big statement. So I

1336
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about the Bills too, and I it's

1337
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: a coin flip to me, but it would not surprise me.

1338
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: I think the Eagles, unlike Buffalo, can win so many

1339
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 6: different ways, and they're in they're in Philadelphia. I feel

1340
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 6: like we're not really giving the ether here.

1341
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: Either's the the lines makers here three and a half point.

1342
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 4: I could care less what they're doing.

1343
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't like that.

1344
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 6: I'm saying like this is like the Eagles are there,

1345
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 6: them and the Niners. There is no I would never

1346
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 6: put Buffalo in the Eagles category.

1347
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: Really is an excellent home team, there's no.

1348
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 6: I mean, they find so many different ways to win.

1349
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 6: In the way they did it against Kansas City, It's

1350
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 6: just like, I don't know.

1351
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: Defensively, I'm with you.

1352
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,479
Speaker 5: I I think the Bills will have a hard time

1353
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: stopping Daleen Hurts and in this running game, the way

1354
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 5: they look last you know, they didn't do great for

1355
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: most of that game against Kansas City, but just personnel ways,

1356
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 5: I mean Jason Kelcey, that was like that was like

1357
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame resume type of game for Jason Kelsey.

1358
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: Was all it's the year of Jason Kelsey. Did you

1359
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: see that? Do you see that one clear out block

1360
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 3: where he spread it down to the field. People like,

1361
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: he makes center. Look, it makes it fun to play center.

1362
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: So I think they can mow down the Bills.

1363
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 5: But I just gotta feel and team seasons change so

1364
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 5: many times, and I just think these two teams, I

1365
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 5: don't feel that that much differently than I did come

1366
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: into the season where they both have a chance still.

1367
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: To do a lot.

1368
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: I got, predictably, some pushback from certain corners of Philadelphia

1369
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: or Pennsylvania about my comments about Nick Sirianni, who sometimes

1370
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: just needs a little whack in the head just to

1371
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: be like sh enough.

1372
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 6: You had it down to like a woman's glove. Did

1373
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 6: she take off and slap it with the glove?

1374
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 3: Let's go stom it.

1375
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: And I heard from some Eagles fans, including our buddy

1376
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: Dan Soupy Campbell from the Wonder years, who was not

1377
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: happy with my commentary and then you know and just

1378
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: the way it is, and you could say I'm right

1379
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: or I'm wrong.

1380
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: I think a lot of you know that I'm right

1381
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: about this.

1382
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: Then I get this video sent my way from right

1383
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: after the Chiefs game of Siriano heading towards the tunnel.

1384
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: You don't find too many coaches to in that you

1385
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: know that there is I'm going to posit that there

1386
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: was at least.

1387
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 5: First of all, he's getting a lot of grief from

1388
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: Chiefs fans, I'm sure during the game, but there was

1389
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 5: probably just one comment in there from some Chiefs fan

1390
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 5: during the game that's stuck in his craw and it

1391
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 5: didn't get out of his head, and I like, he's fired.

1392
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: I know you love it, Greg Nick Sirianni, Why.

1393
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 5: Do you have to take it? Why do you have

1394
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 5: to take it from these goons in the crowd?

1395
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: You should?

1396
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, can we can we at

1397
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: least have some general self awareness, Like you won the

1398
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: game because a guy dropped a ball in the end zone.

1399
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: So why don't we just get to the locker room

1400
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: and get on the bus and get out of town.

1401
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: Gobby Nick Siriani. Chiefs win a Super Bowl because I'm

1402
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 3: a holding call. You don't apologize. Let me see, let

1403
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: me see that again. I want to watch that again.

1404
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

1405
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach. I kind of love it.

1406
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 6: I mean, what's worst you got? Mike Diket's growing that's

1407
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 6: going to someone's hair.

1408
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: Remember that that's from NBC Sports Philly.

1409
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: Nick Siriano is your friend who got arrested for a

1410
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: road rage incident. Nick Ciano is the guy who doesn't

1411
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: Sirianni is the guy who doesn't pay his fantasy dues

1412
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: before the deadline because quote, you could take it out

1413
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: of my winnings. Nick Sirianni is the guy who said

1414
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: he's never listened to the Beatles before because they suck.

1415
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni, I got some more this one. I asked

1416
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: Zumbalt to write me a few. Oh, this one's fro

1417
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: my buddy, Bob. Nick Sirianni still has a subscription to maxim.

1418
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: Let's see, I got a couple more here.

1419
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni proudly claims Bradley Cooper's character from Silver Lioni's

1420
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: Playbook was crafted after him. Nick Sirianni has never met

1421
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: a mascot. He couldn't punch him the peak face. Nick

1422
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: Sirianni is the friend who hangs out at your house

1423
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: to use your WiFi so he could apply for jobs.

1424
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: That's the guy that's your hero, Nick Sirianni.

1425
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: The most accurate one.

1426
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 5: There was the guy who doesn't play his league fees

1427
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: because he could take it out of my winnings.

1428
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: Good.

1429
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni has multiple Instagram photos with friends where they're all.

1430
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: Doing I actually can't say that. All right, Let's come on, Bob,

1431
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 3: I can't work that blue reading in real time.

1432
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: All right.

1433
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: Oh, the Zoo, the Zoo.

1434
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 8: You mentioned earlier that you were going to lock up

1435
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 8: the Eagles, switched off, did a little lock play date

1436
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 8: with Mark. But somebody weighed in and has their opinion

1437
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 8: on the Eagles.

1438
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: All right, hello heroes.

1439
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 10: Yeah you guessed, and I'm feeling myself after last week

1440
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 10: taking a four point underdog on the road against.

1441
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: They were two and a half.

1442
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 5: He keeps bumping this up inaccurate two and a half.

1443
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 10: You guys have had this narrative that the Zoo doesn't

1444
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 10: have it together. Guess what we're coming after you?

1445
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: Greggy.

1446
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 10: You play your conservative game just like the NFL. You

1447
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 10: play conservative, you go home. Bottom line is I have

1448
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 10: to do this video because you didn't take the six

1449
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 10: and a half point favorite last week. You only took

1450
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 10: a four point home favorite.

1451
01:03:59,480 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1452
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 10: Again, you play your game. We're playing ours. We're coming

1453
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 10: after that trophy, baby, And this week we're flying high

1454
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 10: with the Eagles again. I told you all year the

1455
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 10: Bills aren't making the playoffs. They take another step back

1456
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 10: this week. Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown and the rest of

1457
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 10: the gang fly high, lock it up.

1458
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: I'd happy be Thanksgiving to all of the Wesley Happy

1459
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving to Nick. I wish I was there.

1460
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 5: I love he gets fiery on the text, but then

1461
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 5: he always says very very nice text.

1462
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: It's the duality of man.

1463
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: But I have to just point out factually he's always

1464
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: lying about these spreads.

1465
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: Oh boy, the Ravens are a two and a half

1466
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: Wain favorite.

1467
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 5: Last week Head it's always inflating his team was only

1468
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 5: a two and a half way. So it's just like,

1469
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 5: come up with the facts. When when you're gonna throw

1470
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 5: a number out, just lie. We're clocking you, Nick. I'm

1471
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 5: clocking Nick Si around.

1472
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: His girlfriend wants you to know he's really not like

1473
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: this when it's just the two of them.

1474
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 5: Oh my god, we're still behind base. All right, I

1475
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 5: am up. Here we go.

1476
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's Thanksgiving. We're having a nice, fun preview show.

1477
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: Everybody's enjoying. Everybody's listening right now with a big smile

1478
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: on their face. Now the people behind the glass.

1479
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 4: Doing the show with us, Yeah, they home three minutes ago.

1480
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: Filled with rage.

1481
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna try to speed it up now, starting

1482
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: with our next game. I am picking, and I feel

1483
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: like I keep missing every week, Like wherever I'm drafting.

1484
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: When I'm at the top of a draft board, nothing good.

1485
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: When I'm at the bottom of the draft board. That

1486
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: both games get picked, let's see. I am up and

1487
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: I will grab Chiefs at Raiders. Not the best Sunday, Nope,

1488
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: And I find the Chiefs to be a deeply frustrating watch.

1489
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: But I also am kind of fascinated by what Andy

1490
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: Reid and Patrick Mahomes are gonna do to get out

1491
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: of this mess. It is an eight and a half

1492
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: point spread, and I do kind of owe the Raiders

1493
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: an apology because I thought that the Dolphins were gonna

1494
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: kind of bring them back down to earth.

1495
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 3: And while they didn't win the game, like we.

1496
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: Said, they kept it close and had multiple chances down

1497
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: the stretch to even potentially steal that game.

1498
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: So credit where credit is due.

1499
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: The firing of Josh McDaniels has really sparked this team.

1500
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce deserves a lot of credit and the rest

1501
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: of that team. Because those things to go two ways,

1502
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: it could also go the other way, where you stop

1503
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: competing and you get blown out by three touchdowns every week.

1504
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: The Raiders are in it to win it, or at

1505
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: least attempt to win it. So I would say the Chiefs,

1506
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: coming off a wildly frustrating loss to the Eagles, a

1507
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: game that they lost in five different ways, are gonna

1508
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: show up angry. And Travis Kelce coming off one of

1509
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: his worst games ever, is going to go off in

1510
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: this game, and Mahomes is gonna make it happen and

1511
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: make it rain points. But at this point I can't

1512
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: do it anymore. I can't just assume the Chiefs can

1513
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: turn it on. I've seen them do it maybe once

1514
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: this season. It was a first half, I believe against

1515
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: the Cardinals where they were kind of totally just cooking.

1516
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 3: And since then the Bears and they were even shut out.

1517
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: I think of the second half of that game or

1518
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: close to it, can that team show up again?

1519
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 3: Maybe, but it's also very possible. This game mark is

1520
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 3: twenty to fourteen in the fourth quarter, I.

1521
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 6: Could see that, like the Dolphins defense under like sorry,

1522
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 6: the Raiders defense with Patrick Graham running the show. You

1523
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 6: want to look at their offense post Josh McDaniels, you know,

1524
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 6: and it was really good at game A. Not so

1525
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 6: good against the Dolphins up and down, but their defense

1526
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 6: I thought gave Miami a lot of problems. If you

1527
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 6: take Tyreek Hill out of that game, I understand that's

1528
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 6: not how it works, but like they really caused. They

1529
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 6: coaxed two into some mistakes. They played with a lot

1530
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 6: more aggression. I just think that this team needed this change.

1531
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 6: I see the Raiders through new eyes, and the microcosm

1532
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 6: with the Chiefs is that they haven't figured out this

1533
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 6: overall global problem is with their passing game. But inside

1534
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 6: of like games itself, like they haven't figured it out.

1535
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 6: In the second half, they've scored one second half touchdown

1536
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 6: or one fourth quarter touchdown.

1537
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: They're in these close games and I'm with you.

1538
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 6: They're on the road here, and it's like, what's so

1539
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 6: different from a couple of days ago when Donna Kelce,

1540
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 6: like the most famous mom in America, is watching her

1541
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 6: son and the Chiefs melt down in a huge moment

1542
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 6: on Monday Night football.

1543
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 5: Well, I think the difference is, well, if the weather

1544
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 5: helps you know your indoors, but mostly that you're playing

1545
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,520
Speaker 5: against Aidan O'Connell and that your defense showed.

1546
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: Me a lot on Monday night.

1547
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about that enough. How great that deal.

1548
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: Your defense is super Bowl level?

1549
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 5: Right, They didn't give up even despite all those possessions

1550
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 5: the Chiefs kept giving him. It was under two hundred

1551
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 5: and fifty yards, and that was to show me something

1552
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 5: game for the Chiefs defense too. Where Man, it's very

1553
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 5: much a sign of the twenty twenty three season. You

1554
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 5: think back to that Super Bowl and these two MVP

1555
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 5: candidates hurt some mahomes going up and down the field.

1556
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 5: That's twenty twenty two. Fast forward to twenty twenty three,

1557
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 5: and it's a defensive slug fest and the Chiefs are

1558
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 5: a legit, Like there's no more way around. They're a

1559
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 5: legit top five defense and that against a rookie quarterback

1560
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 5: who who's not bad but is little robotic going through

1561
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 5: his reads and everything. It's a lot to handle, and

1562
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 5: I just think they can wear you down because until

1563
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 5: that second half and even really the fourth quarter, it's

1564
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 5: like I was impressed that the Chiefs are moving the ball,

1565
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 5: they can run the ball, they're tough upfront, They're not explosive,

1566
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 5: but they I think they can find a way to

1567
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 5: be a fish and beat you know, relatively under man team.

1568
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 3: I would say the.

1569
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: One thing I am confident about is Kelsey and Mahomes

1570
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 2: getting back on the right page and maybe that leads

1571
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 2: to a big day and that that carries him because

1572
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the Chiefs defense is going to give

1573
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: up a lot of points here. I think the Raiders

1574
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: could struggle to get to double digits or you know,

1575
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: two touchdowns could be asking a lot. So it feels

1576
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: like it sets up well for Casey to get right.

1577
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: I'd like to see because we know Watson ain't it,

1578
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 2: and we know Tony ain't it, and we know insert

1579
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: player here ain't it. Maybe Rice, like we've talked about him,

1580
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: like maybe that was kind of fun. Okay, I mean

1581
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 2: that's they got to use him in inventive ways to

1582
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: get the most out of him. But Rice, we've kind

1583
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: of all circled as maybe he the guy that needs

1584
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: to step up. Somebody does, or it's not gonna happen

1585
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs. Let's move on. Snakes to me, really

1586
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: not great. But you know, maybe even this one kind

1587
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: of sticks it to Greg. It's not a purpose, Greg,

1588
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: because I'm sure you wanted to watch it. Saints at Falcons.

1589
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: Great rivalry. That does stick it to me.

1590
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 5: These teams, you really wanted to watch it, because this,

1591
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 5: to me is a perfect Saints Falcons game.

1592
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: These teams hate each other, these fan bases despise and

1593
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 2: detest one a the other. There's nothing out of bounds

1594
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: between Saints fans and Falcons fans, and now they're fighting

1595
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 2: for first place in the NFC South. I'm not sure

1596
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: what we have going on a quarterback situation for New Orleans,

1597
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: but what I do know is that Desmond Ridder is

1598
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback in the plan now from Arthur Smith,

1599
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: genius of all geniuses, is that it is Desmond Ridders

1600
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: team for the rest of the year, and they will

1601
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: sink or swim with Ritter I have my theories what

1602
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: will happen, but we'll see.

1603
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't surprised by this, especially with Heinekee getting

1604
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 5: a little banged up before the buye, but it sounds

1605
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 5: like this was the plan all along, a reset Arthur.

1606
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 4: What are they just giving him a mental like rest basically.

1607
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: Exactly, and that they want to make this thing happen.

1608
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 3: And look, it's year three.

1609
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 5: They haven't been to the playoffs, they haven't had a

1610
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 5: winning record with Arthur Smith.

1611
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: It is very rare. And Robert Sallas probably thinking about

1612
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: this too.

1613
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 5: For a guy to get a fourth year if you

1614
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 5: haven't made the playoffs or had a winning record, it's

1615
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 5: extremely rare. So he's putting his whole career on the

1616
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 5: line here for Ritter versus the Saints defense, which will

1617
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 5: be without Marshaun Lattimore, will be without Michael Thomas, and

1618
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 5: as Dan mentioned, Carr as we're taping Wednesday morning, is uncertain.

1619
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 5: He's still in the concussion protocol. But there's varying love

1620
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 5: of the bye. That's that's not a good true but

1621
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 5: sometimes that just me like if even sometimes it means

1622
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: you can practice and by the end of the week

1623
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 5: you're cleared.

1624
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 6: I'm not like I I know that there are bigger

1625
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 6: Derek car fans than me. That's overt, but like I'm

1626
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 6: not I'm not convinced that whether it's Car, Jamis Winston,

1627
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 6: that it's uh, there's that much of a gap or

1628
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 6: a chasm between the two.

1629
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: This year's version of.

1630
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 5: Derek Carr Man Saints fans are so tired of Derek Carr.

1631
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 5: They would agree with you, and they think they're getting

1632
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 5: the worst of Derek.

1633
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: Didn't.

1634
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 6: We sort of say this is probably what will be

1635
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 6: how you'll be feeling frustrated and agitated by now. But

1636
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 6: I but I also think if you got the best

1637
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 6: version of Derek Carr, that would not be the way.

1638
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 6: But it's like that he's not clicked with his offense.

1639
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 6: He hasn't even been Andy Dalton. And if anything like

1640
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 6: Jamis like the floor is insane, but the ceiling might

1641
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 6: be a little bit better if they get a little

1642
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 6: if you get a wacky, like high ceiling level version

1643
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 6: of Winston.

1644
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 3: I kind of like that. That's when my pushback comes in.

1645
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: They can't stand here and hear Derek Carr slander and

1646
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: then we're gonna go, what have you get?

1647
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 3: The best version of Davis Winston. There is no best

1648
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 3: version different. They're different, they're not jams, not better than

1649
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 3: the other, the just.

1650
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: Right, here's here's here's why they're kind of apples and

1651
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 2: apples even though they're different players. Derek Carr is Derek

1652
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: carrs Derek Carr is Derek Carr. James Winston is Jameis

1653
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 2: Winston and James Winston is Jameis Winston. It's always going

1654
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: to be a turnover fest with some high level throws

1655
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: mixed in. And if that's what you want, Saints fans,

1656
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: if you just want a little bit more of a

1657
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: roller coaster, I hear you, but be careful what you

1658
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: wish for, because everywhere that guy's gone, he's lost and

1659
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: he's lost his job eventually, so whatever you.

1660
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: Sign up for.

1661
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 5: But it's also like the difference is though one it

1662
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 5: made thirty is making thirty plus million a year and

1663
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 5: is guaranteed money to next year. So the frustration level

1664
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 5: with that that they should have known, Yeah, they should

1665
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 5: have known.

1666
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: Like it was, he was always going to be, in

1667
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: my opinion, an upgrade over Winston, but he was never

1668
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: the answer.

1669
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 3: Like he kind of just a bridge to something.

1670
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 5: He has this crazy combo car of both avoiding hits

1671
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 5: to an extreme degree by always getting rid of the

1672
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 5: ball too quickly and not going through his reads. And

1673
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 5: that's something that Winston will do get he'll give his

1674
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 5: playmakers chance. But then he also takes insanely difficult and

1675
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 5: massive hits. So it's sort of this weird combo that

1676
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 5: occasionally he just hold onto the ball way too long

1677
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 5: and he'll take a huge hit and he'll get her

1678
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: inside the pocket. The Saints are underdogs in this game,

1679
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 5: but only one point uh in Atlanta. This Falcons defense

1680
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 5: has quietly been disappointing, getting a little worse throughout the

1681
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 5: course of the season. I really think this is just

1682
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 5: a huge game for these two teams. I am annoyed.

1683
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 5: I am I'm annoyed. Now I'm honestly rethinking my draft strategy.

1684
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 5: Should I have taken this number one?

1685
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 3: Overall? I might have to work a trade.

1686
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 5: Well, I'll do a trade with you, I mean across

1687
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 5: you for freaking Saints Falcons.

1688
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 3: How how dumb is that? I don't know what did

1689
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 3: you say, Mark? I'm annoyed now you wanted it too?

1690
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: Took you took definitely wait Browns Broncos Pick one. You

1691
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 3: probably managed to ye.

1692
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 4: Pick one happened seventy seven minutes ago.

1693
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 3: So all right, you're up. I am up.

1694
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1695
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 5: I'll take the first uh Jaguars Texans Division Crown game

1696
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 5: of the week.

1697
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Now I feel pretty good forgot that that was there,

1698
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: bent yourself.

1699
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 4: A lot of internal monologue from Greg here, spout it

1700
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 4: out in the public.

1701
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 3: Well, I just you know that's it. I'll trade you.

1702
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 5: I'll trade you that game for Saints uh Falcons. No,

1703
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 5: now I feel differently. I'm just gonna just take the

1704
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 5: draft as it came, it was meant to be. I

1705
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 5: get to watch c. J.

1706
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 3: Stroud. Uh, he is an one and a half point underdog.

1707
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 5: Wow, if I had known that, Heck, I'm should we

1708
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 5: bring out the rain maker again?

1709
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: Let's not go that far. But I like the Texans

1710
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: in this. You know you're talking out loud, right. I

1711
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 3: like to bring the people in, bring them inside the mind.

1712
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 5: One and a half point favorites, Jack chic here, I'm

1713
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 5: gonna go full full like Mourning Fox f s one show.

1714
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: Here.

1715
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 5: Go ahead, just pose a question which you already know

1716
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 5: the answer to. Based on my question, it would you

1717
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 5: rather have c J. Stroud or Trevor Lawrence. Oh, because

1718
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 5: I'd rather have st I'm already taken him for his career.

1719
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: Has has Trevor Lawrence had highs that have approached c J.

1720
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: Stroud's highs? Yes, has Trevor Lawren. It's been in the

1721
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: league now for what this is his third year. I think, Yeah,

1722
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: this is the first time where I'm this season where

1723
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, maybe maybe he's not the generational talent

1724
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: that he was hyped up to be.

1725
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 3: It's really maybe he's just a good to very good quarterback.

1726
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: Do I think that Lawrence, if everything lined up right,

1727
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: as a super Bowl level quarterback?

1728
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 3: Potentially? Yes.

1729
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: Stroud, however, it has just been fantastic as a rookie.

1730
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like you almost have to go

1731
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: with Stroud. You almost have to Wright.

1732
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 6: I just for me because I think one thing that's

1733
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 6: a development that we didn't see coming that's pretty great

1734
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 6: for an AFC South that's been milk toast for a

1735
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 6: long time, is that for the next fifteen years, these

1736
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 6: two quarterbacks are going to go at each other like

1737
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 6: a Manning and Brady type situation.

1738
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 3: I think Welle Richardson gets to that mixup Richardson too.

1739
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 6: I'm not putting there yet, but I would say this,

1740
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 6: it's like whenever I pick between those two, I always

1741
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 6: was a brady guy. Like it's just how they make

1742
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 6: me feel, and like Stroud has changed the way I

1743
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 6: feel about the season, and I think Lawrence is awesome,

1744
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 6: but he's just traveled Orence to me, like I just

1745
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 6: I would I feel the way you feel about c J.

1746
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: Stroud and watching him play.

1747
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 6: I think it's so also so exciting that he just

1748
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 6: toppled the draft community in terms of the S two tests.

1749
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 6: Have talked about the ball that that's always been on

1750
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 6: my radar, and it's like we need to see players differently,

1751
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 6: and like c J. Stroud's response, like people like ours our.

1752
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 3: In fairness again, like a ton of people had Stroud first,

1753
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 3: Like I know, I know, I know.

1754
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 6: I understand that one number two overall, like our research

1755
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 6: packet asked, like ken c J. Stroud recovered from his

1756
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 6: three interception performance, It's like he already made that clear

1757
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 6: in the postgame comments. He's like, I'm gonna keep throwing

1758
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 6: the ball the way I do it, and like he

1759
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 6: was literally not affected by.

1760
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: All that A shot against the NFL. Reason it's just

1761
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 3: a topic.

1762
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 6: It's like he had his first really rough game turnover

1763
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 6: wise after in this hot streak, and it's like, I

1764
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 6: have full trust that he'll recover.

1765
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 3: It's a great game before we move on.

1766
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 5: Just like they take over first place in the AFC

1767
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 5: South Dan they win the Texans.

1768
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: That was quick. They're gonna win playoff games.

1769
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 5: And I and but they're two back if they lose,

1770
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 5: and they no longer have the tie break right work

1771
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 5: because they have split. So it's a huge, huge game.

1772
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 5: And the Jags, to their credit, really changed up what

1773
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 5: they did last week. They got a lot of criticism

1774
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 5: for Dink and Dunk and Deacon Dunk and they went

1775
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 5: heavy play action, the deepest targets they had all year.

1776
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: Help that say Jones was back.

1777
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 5: All of Calvin Ridley's big games have been with day

1778
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 5: on the field because then you can move really around anymore.

1779
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 5: So they were much more aggressive, way more play action.

1780
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 5: I think you'll see more of that. It was a

1781
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 5: little more of the Trevor you want to see.

1782
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 3: Well, that's good. It was a different Jags team.

1783
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 6: One quick thing, like because you know how you have

1784
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 6: the seventeenth game and they throw in like another division

1785
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 6: that you play. It's like the tick here was that

1786
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 6: the Jaguars got the Niners and got totally clocked, and

1787
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 6: the Texans got the Cardinals. I do wonder if you

1788
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 6: are the Houston Texans we're seen right now, would you

1789
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 6: have lost what was it, thirty four to three to

1790
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:46,879
Speaker 6: San Francisco.

1791
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: I think they give him a better fight.

1792
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 3: I don't think they're losing thirty four to three degains anyway.

1793
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 2: But and this is why I hate that that Fox

1794
01:18:54,600 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: stuff sometimes, like Fox taking Astroy, because I still do

1795
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: believe in Trevor Lawrence.

1796
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: I just think it hasn't kind of come together this

1797
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: year the way it has.

1798
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: And also Stroud's on pace to throw for like five

1799
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 2: thousand yards and thirty touchdowns as a rookie.

1800
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: So there's just you can't go wrong with either one.

1801
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying.

1802
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big test for them though, against a

1803
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 5: really good Jags defense too, so I'm not necessarily assuming

1804
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 5: it's gonna be.

1805
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 3: All all Rose this year.

1806
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: Here is, by the way, the research and notes, the

1807
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: full setup mark will rookie Phenom CJ. Stroud, the little

1808
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 2: little pop off the top rope. That's fair Hart bounce

1809
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: back after three. I nt game, but this is an

1810
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 2: important close against the NFL's most opportunistic defense.

1811
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 6: It's it's it wasn't a me versus the research packet

1812
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 6: like scenario. Okay, I just I said the answer I

1813
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 6: already had in my head. Yes he will, Yes, he

1814
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 6: even did in the last game.

1815
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: I think what they're getting across is that Jacksonville is

1816
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: aggressive and opportunistic and CJ like you throw the ball.

1817
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Yes they use the word opportunity. Yes, they're aggressive tea

1818
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: that kind of has a they have a nose for

1819
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: the Ballmark, and that shroud is not.

1820
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 3: A frak I don't.

1821
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: I am not trying to confront an entire department here

1822
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 6: within the building. They do excellent work, and I you know,

1823
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 6: I use their pH.

1824
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: The guy and the trench coat's on the throat. No,

1825
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 3: just be careful here. All right, let's move on, Mark,

1826
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 3: You're up next. It's getting ugly.

1827
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 6: It's getting ugly, But I'm gonna go Pittsburgh at Cincinnati

1828
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 6: AFC North Track in that division like the most interesting

1829
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 6: division in football right now.

1830
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 3: I as much as c J.

1831
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 6: Stroud and the Texans make me excited for this season

1832
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 6: as a completely new story. What's happened to the Bengals

1833
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 6: is the worst thing that's happened to the entire league.

1834
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 6: We lost I think the MVP and Joe Burrow. We

1835
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 6: lost what I think could have been the AFC champion

1836
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 6: in the Cincinnati Bengals, And now you're in a world

1837
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 6: where Jake Browning is taking No. We don't know a

1838
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 6: lot about him. He looked pretty good in the preseason.

1839
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 6: I thought to some degree, he's twenty seven. The one

1840
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 6: thing I was just trying to read what people were

1841
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 6: saying about him in general, and it's like, is the

1842
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 6: offense gonna change?

1843
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: Are you gonna like they're saying, we're going to try

1844
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: to keep the same offense.

1845
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 6: I get that. It's like good luck, I know exactly

1846
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 6: I mean, But what little like little nuggets about how

1847
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 6: they feel about the person, you know, because you can

1848
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 6: feel this with certain quarterbacks and like over and over

1849
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 6: they're like, we just feel that this guy that the

1850
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 6: qualities he has, he's super common, super collected, and super confident.

1851
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 3: I know maybe that means nothing.

1852
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 5: To us, but he also did if better about it,

1853
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 5: better love the person because he has no resume and

1854
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 5: they went into the season.

1855
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: But I think they do. I think they do, and

1856
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: I also think it's the resumes. He's twenty seven.

1857
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 6: No. The other thing, though, I'd say, is like he

1858
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 6: if there's any benefit to the fact that, like Burrow's

1859
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 6: been so in and out of the lineup and missed

1860
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 6: a big chunk of time, is that he got more

1861
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 6: work with some of these players than he would have

1862
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 6: if he had been you know, Peyton Manning's back up

1863
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 6: back in the day and you don't even see the field.

1864
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 3: I know the numbers weren't great.

1865
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 5: It didn't look too big for him against Baltimore, so

1866
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 5: that was an early encouraging sign. But it's totally changed,

1867
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 5: you know how you look at the Bengals that they're

1868
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 5: underdogs in this game just by point, Steelers favored by one,

1869
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 5: and but the Steelers are a team again. They still

1870
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 5: haven't out gained anyone and they finally did it. They

1871
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 5: got rid of Matt Canada since we last.

1872
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: Talked named Canada, and uh, I get it, you.

1873
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 5: Wanted to make a change, but I was a little

1874
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 5: confused because their new offensive coordinator is not calling the plays.

1875
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, this is very It's one of these splits.

1876
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin is splitting the baby Mike Sullivan. I hate

1877
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 5: that is grotesque, right, I mean, they just he's just

1878
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 5: cutting that baby and has biblical I mean.

1879
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know that.

1880
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 4: It was what are they doing their cutting baby?

1881
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 2: It was like, this is my baby, it's my baby.

1882
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: And then and then they were like, all right, we'll

1883
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: split the baby down and then you can both it.

1884
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: And then one of the one person said no, no,

1885
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 2: never do that, and then they warded the baby of

1886
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: the person that said that.

1887
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't split the man. That was a

1888
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: parable Thank you very much. That is that true? I

1889
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: think so. I mean it couldn't be up here for

1890
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: no reason. It sounds it makes me. I'll google it

1891
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 3: split baby Bible.

1892
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,440
Speaker 5: Running Backs coach Eddie Faukner is the OC. He's organizing

1893
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 5: and he's kind of running the show. But Mike Sullivan,

1894
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 5: who you might remember back with the Giants back in

1895
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 5: the day, and I know he played college Greg.

1896
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: Has roots in Hebrew lore the job buddy, Okay, I'm

1897
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: big spot for Rosenthal.

1898
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 5: Not aware of anything too religious or so you've got

1899
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 5: how I was raised and Mike Sullivan's calling the plays

1900
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 5: most of the plays, so that part's all a little confusing,

1901
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 5: but they wanted to change things up. People seem happy.

1902
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 5: Will that make Kenny Pickett any more inspiring? I sort

1903
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 5: of doubt it. But it's a nice matchup because the

1904
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 5: real issue with the Bengals, you know, trying to win

1905
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 5: games without Joe Burrow, is that the defense has been bad.

1906
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 3: They've given up more explosive plays than any team in

1907
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: the league.

1908
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 6: There's a pretty crazy Kenny Pickett stat out there that

1909
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 6: he has a one point nine passing touchdown percentage. Obviously,

1910
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 6: badd he has six touchdowns on the year, which is

1911
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 6: no different than the Giants quarterback who's been there for weeks.

1912
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 4: That's the lowest percentage in NFL history.

1913
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 6: Like he's he's historically setting records for being unproductive and

1914
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 6: finding the.

1915
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: That's what I've been watching quarterbacks like him my whole life.

1916
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: For my team. He can't play. He can't play, and

1917
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 3: I think.

1918
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 4: If it looks better than some of those quarterbacks that

1919
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 4: can't play, though.

1920
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: But it's the same DNA where like, look at how

1921
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: many touchdowns the offense scores.

1922
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 3: They don't move, they don't consistently move the ball.

1923
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: The game on the line this past week, that just

1924
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: a grim three and out where it was a pass

1925
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: to the right that wasn't handled. Then he sailed one

1926
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: out of bounds to the left, and then he sailed

1927
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: one out of bounds to the to the right, and

1928
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: it was then they're punching it away and then the

1929
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: Browns win the game. And I just wondered, now, because

1930
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: Tomlin's obviously not going anywhere, nor should he now Canada's gone,

1931
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 2: how much longer does picket? Do we continue with this

1932
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: picket charade if you're Pittsburgh just when they can't. When's

1933
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: the last time they had four hundred yards in a game?

1934
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: Most like never under Canada.

1935
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: No, it was like eight like eons ago. So Canada's

1936
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: out back in the Hebrew times though, actually been running

1937
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 3: the ball.

1938
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 2: Well if yeah, Larran's become a really nice surprise to him,

1939
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: like if if they don't start doing something now, he's

1940
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 2: next and he should be next, because you don't just

1941
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: get an infinite rope. Even as a first round pick.

1942
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't like he was a top five pick or anything.

1943
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: He was what a late first round guy like first

1944
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 2: little but the rope's not quite as long.

1945
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, Nor should it be. I don't know.

1946
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 3: You guys believe him? No, I think he's just middle

1947
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 3: of the road.

1948
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 5: I've been on team this. This team would be better

1949
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 5: with Mitchell Trubisky as their start. But I don't think

1950
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 5: I'm not how much better and enough better that it

1951
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 5: would make a difference and potentially wins and losses.

1952
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1953
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 6: I know, like Mitchell Trubisky, like within a within two weeks,

1954
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 6: we'd be Let's take ano little at Kenny Pickett.

1955
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break before we finish a draft

1956
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 3: of First.

1957
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: The phrase split the baby has its roots and hebrew

1958
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: lore in the story recorded at One King's Three sixteen eighteen,

1959
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: of two mothers claiming before King Solomon that each was

1960
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: the real mother of an infant son. The wise King

1961
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: ordered that the baby be split in two, with one

1962
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: half of the baby going to each mother. The first

1963
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: mother's position was to accept the King's judgment is fair

1964
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: what a psychopath, and the seconds was not the mother.

1965
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: The seconds was to give the baby to the first,

1966
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: whereupon the king determined that the infant son obviously belonged

1967
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: to the second, as evidence by her willingness to sacrifice

1968
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: her own self interest for.

1969
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 3: The good of the child, as a true mother would

1970
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 3: the wise. Well, I think the first one just wasn't

1971
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 3: aware of how babies work. You know, she's a dummy,

1972
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 3: big old dummy. Yeah what half, No one's got a baby,

1973
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: So she was either a.

1974
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 6: Psychopath all moms were just assuming all moms are great,

1975
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 6: not true necessarily.

1976
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 4: Maybe it could have been the first but maybe, you

1977
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 4: know what, maybe the king got wrong.

1978
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: But mothers should all be treated with respect. Mark, I

1979
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 3: would agree with that. Good argument. There gotcha. All right,

1980
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 3: let's take a break and then we'll finish the draft.

1981
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: All right, let's close this thing up. Mark, next to you.

1982
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna take a disaster zone contest. Patriots

1983
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 6: a giant's uh. I want to watch a little Tommy

1984
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 6: de v doo. I think that's exciting. He's been sacked

1985
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 6: twenty times in three games. But ida he looked good

1986
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 6: last week.

1987
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: First of all, what was expected to what we're getting.

1988
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's you got to give it up for

1989
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: the Jersey boy.

1990
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 6: I would just say, though, how good do you want

1991
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 6: to look? Because these two teams are in contention. I mean,

1992
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 6: if you're Brian Daball and you get that first overall pick,

1993
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 6: like you can start to say, well, listen, now we're

1994
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 6: gonna do what I've been planning to do all along

1995
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 6: with a new quarterback. But I wonder, what if this

1996
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 6: is quietly like Bill Belichick's greatest coaching job, because taking

1997
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 6: all the strays and bows and arrows and like people

1998
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 6: are just like saying that he doesn't have it anymore.

1999
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 6: There's a lot of ages I'm going on, but he's

2000
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 6: quietly tanking and this week we're probably going to see

2001
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 6: multiple quarterbacks, if not just another terrible version of Mac

2002
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 6: Jones and you and you're the team that gets set

2003
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 6: in one pick, So it's like, what's your strategy here?

2004
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: Almost? I think if you're the do you want to

2005
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 3: that theory hole?

2006
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 2: That theory would only hold if he has assurances behind

2007
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: the scenes that he's their coaching.

2008
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 3: I just love you. I don't think I don't think

2009
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: so either.

2010
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 6: But what I even love the most is like if

2011
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 6: it were so deep state that they were like, let's

2012
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 6: cook up narratives that there's all this infighting and Craft

2013
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 6: and Belichick don't like each other, like let's just.

2014
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 3: Do a soft like Peyton manning out. Why would they

2015
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: need to add that, Like, what is that? I don't know,

2016
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: because it seems so.

2017
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 6: It's so because then when no one would believe the

2018
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 6: concept that they're actually just losing, oh as a cover

2019
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 6: for the ten, they're in disorder, They're in disarray.

2020
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick is senile.

2021
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 5: No, I'm past giving Bill Belichick the benefit of doubt

2022
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 5: that he has some master plan to get the ball

2023
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 5: into the red zone and then mac Jones throws it

2024
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 5: a horrific pick. I can't believe mac Jones looks like

2025
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 5: I can't believe mac Jones looks like he's going to

2026
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 5: be the starter. He said in his new press conference today.

2027
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 5: He said, I think that's the plan. But he hasn't

2028
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 5: been told, but he thinks that's the plan because it

2029
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 5: sounds like he's taking most of the reps but not

2030
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 5: all the reps. It's just like, come on, bro, they

2031
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 5: are three points favorites. The Patriots are still three point

2032
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 5: favorites on the road, which is surprising to me.

2033
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know Tommy DeVito is struggling.

2034
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 5: Oh but me and struggle last week? Okay, fair enough,

2035
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 5: and that the defense, you know, they got a front

2036
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 5: line that this is such a big game. So if

2037
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 5: the Patriots win this game, according to Seth Wilder at ESPN,

2038
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 5: they only have a nine percent chance of getting.

2039
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 3: A top two pick.

2040
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 5: But if they lose this game, it's up to thirty

2041
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 5: eight percent. It's a similar spread on both sides for

2042
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 5: the Giants. And if you really want to go crazy

2043
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 5: in terms of galaxy brain thinking, how about the Patriots

2044
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 5: try to win this game, the Giants keep losing, get

2045
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 5: Brian Dable fired, and then Bill Belichick's the Giants coach

2046
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 5: next year.

2047
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 4: Oh, that's like when Hugh Jackson traded Carson.

2048
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 6: He basically had the Bengals trade for Carson Palmer for

2049
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 6: the Raiders and then went back to the Bengals and

2050
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 6: had a bunch of draft picks.

2051
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 2: So wait, so Table gets fired, Belichick takes the Giants

2052
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: out and takes a quarterback, and then Dable goes and

2053
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 2: rejoins mcdermot's a OC and sticks it to the Jets

2054
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: and the Patriots on.

2055
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 3: Top of it, this is what you've brought us to,

2056
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 3: all right, Giants, rough one and and shout out.

2057
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if I said it on Sunday, but

2058
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 2: again every week Saquon Barkley is playing at a very

2059
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: high level and difficult circumstances. He had an incredible touchdown

2060
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: pass as you're watching.

2061
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: Here on the video show.

2062
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: Great job by Madison and company in the glass. So

2063
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 2: we'll see if he can keep it up. Three points

2064
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: spread that game? All right, Greg, you are up?

2065
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 3: All right?

2066
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 5: I will I'll take the remaining Lake game because someone's

2067
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 5: got to It's Rams. It's Cardinals, you like, Oh, I

2068
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 5: love it. It's NFC West. This Cardinals team much more

2069
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 5: exciting with Kyler Murray. Although Josh Dobbs fun, so I

2070
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 5: take that back, but they've been competitive in two straight

2071
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 5: games with Kyler Murray.

2072
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 3: He's been fun to watch.

2073
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 5: The Rams are one point favorites on the road, and

2074
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 5: Fox has given it the old Chris Meyers Robert Smith treatment,

2075
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 5: which I believe means it's their least boring prioritize game

2076
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 5: of the week if that's fired there. But hey, the

2077
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 5: Rams just just win this game. You kind of own

2078
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 5: the Cardinals under Sean McVay and you're to five and six,

2079
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 5: and I didn't think Stafford played his best game last

2080
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 5: week against the Seahawks, but you found a way to

2081
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 5: escape if you remember the last time these two teams played,

2082
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 5: Kyra and Williams lit him up for one hundred and

2083
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 5: fifty eight yards. We haven't seen Kyra and Willims since

2084
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 5: he's back in this game, and I think their running

2085
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 5: game showed some signs of life late in that game

2086
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 5: against Seattle.

2087
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: We might get Cooper Cup.

2088
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 5: It actually sounds like he has a decent chance to

2089
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 5: play this week to return despite that angle.

2090
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 6: That was a weird game because the Rams did I

2091
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 6: think they had like ten yards rushing in the first

2092
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 6: half and then lit him up. Williams came back and

2093
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 6: like they leaned into it. They kind of last week

2094
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 6: against Seattle did something similar on a smaller scale. They

2095
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 6: went heavy and like they started to brutalize Seattle on

2096
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 6: the ground and it kept them in.

2097
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: That game and they won it.

2098
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 6: And they I don't know, they had no business winning

2099
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 6: that game from some angles, but I think part of

2100
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 6: it for me with the Rams, like like I feel

2101
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 6: like with each contest, Matthew Stafford's taking some sort of

2102
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 6: like physical brutality and it's just like, is he gonna last?

2103
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 3: This season? In their line's been okay.

2104
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 5: I don't think they've had a they've improved quite a bit,

2105
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 5: I would say, and this is a nice matchup. The

2106
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 5: Cardinals defense does not get after the quarterback.

2107
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 4: Older Murray looks good on the ground.

2108
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 3: Let's keep moving, let's finish out this draft. I got

2109
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 3: two picks.

2110
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: We'll start with Carolina at Tennessee. Let's see, all right,

2111
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 2: So what do you have here?

2112
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 3: What do we got? Well?

2113
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 2: On the Panther side of things, you have a team

2114
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: that's just now trying to figure out how to put

2115
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: enough sunshine poking through the clouds where the head coach

2116
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: and the staff gets a second year. That is that's

2117
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 2: what we're up against now. And you start, I think

2118
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: feel like you're hearing some whispers now that is really

2119
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: in play with an impatient owner involved here. The Panthers

2120
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: are at their worst record through ten games since twenty ten.

2121
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: They finished and fourteen this year. That is certainly within

2122
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: the range of outcomes two and fourteen or two and

2123
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 2: fifteen this year.

2124
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: So they need to get something, some good news.

2125
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 2: And you know what, the Tennessee Titans, they have an

2126
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 2: opportunity to do something because Tennessee is not a very

2127
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 2: good team and we've been waiting greg for Will Levi

2128
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: is in this offense to give us some more fireworks,

2129
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: and then the waiting continues.

2130
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the team. I'm struggling to know what

2131
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 5: to say on a week to week basis. So I

2132
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 5: decided to reach out to our former producer, Justin Graver, Yeah,

2133
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 5: also host of the Music City Audible podcast, which you guys,

2134
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 5: music City Audible, Yes and wherever you get your potcort

2135
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 5: I said, I don't know what to say about this

2136
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 5: team anymore. Maybe I'll just until they prove that they

2137
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 5: have something interesting to say. I'll just go to Graver yeah,

2138
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 5: for a weekly statement. And so for this week, he

2139
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 5: has given me the let's get the missive. Let's get

2140
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:57,799
Speaker 5: the missive that the Titans are undefeated at Nissan Stadium.

2141
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 5: Did you know their stadiums called Nissan Stadium?

2142
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 3: That was new not it's not great.

2143
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 5: Three and zero averaging twenty seven points per game, and

2144
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 5: they play five of their last seven games at Nissan Stadium,

2145
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 5: so maybe they can make a run here.

2146
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, Justin Graver. You know what, let's I like this.

2147
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: I like this as a as a segment going forward,

2148
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 2: but you know what, I want to make it a

2149
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 2: video segment. Let's get it Let's get him to send

2150
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: us something every week until the season's over. Mercifully raise

2151
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: the bar a bit for Nashville's football club. Let's hit

2152
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: the final game the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

2153
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 3: Turn it around, Bryce Young, Please, it keeps getting worse

2154
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 3: and worse.

2155
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 5: This is a good matchup. Please turn around, Bryce, because

2156
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 5: it is getting grim.

2157
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 4: Help him to getting grim. Frank Reig, Well, I think.

2158
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 3: The last three weeks were by far is worse three

2159
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 3: weeks since week one?

2160
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 5: Who's the play calling now? I lose It's right, Frank Reich.

2161
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 5: I just mean this is a good match brutalized, it's

2162
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 5: not playing well.

2163
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 3: Like, let's please.

2164
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 2: Finally, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers travel to Indianapolis to face

2165
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: the Colts, who kind of under the radar.

2166
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 3: I kind of assume the Colts were out of the mix,

2167
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 3: and then you look.

2168
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 2: Oh wait, the Colts are actually five and five, Like

2169
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 2: they're one of those teams that's in contention and and

2170
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: and fighting for a chance, and even you know, with

2171
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 2: the Jaguars coming back down to earth a little bit,

2172
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: it's the South is pretty wide open right now, and

2173
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 2: they're coming out of their bye week, so you kind

2174
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 2: of like admit it. Like everyone totally forgot the Colts existed, right,

2175
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 2: like they were just gone and we're like, oh.

2176
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 3: They're not until these bye weeks, especially especially they.

2177
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 5: Especially this team, and they were in Germany, they were

2178
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 5: they were off the continent in a game that was

2179
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 5: very forgettable.

2180
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: But they do exist. So they come back from the

2181
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 2: buy now and now you get the Bucks and you know,

2182
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say really about you

2183
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: know about it.

2184
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: These are the two teams. Games are both these games

2185
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:49,799
Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew.

2186
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 6: I for a period of time thought we're the same person,

2187
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 6: you know, just but there they are such similar quarterbacks.

2188
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 6: I will say this about the Bucks, like they could

2189
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 6: not they got wrecked, wrecked against offense, but bigger in

2190
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 6: the in like what in their wide receivers they put

2191
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 6: up a fight, Like I I know. They're also one

2192
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 6: of these teams that are so average and so kind

2193
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 6: of tough to watch on a lot of levels.

2194
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 3: But they don't mind them. I don't like win that

2195
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 3: division at this point.

2196
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 6: I think they've got I mean, all those teams have

2197
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 6: a chance, but it's like they might like all those

2198
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 6: schedules are easy.

2199
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 3: But the Bucks to me, like and it's a Baker

2200
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 3: thing this year.

2201
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's had he's been better than worse,

2202
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 6: but he just does not give up in these games.

2203
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 6: I felt that in like in a lost cause against

2204
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 6: San Francisco, they kind of showed me something.

2205
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 5: The way you brought it up, Dan got me thinking,

2206
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 5: these are actually I think that the two teams that

2207
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 5: have the best chance to make the playoffs that no

2208
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 5: one realizes has actually a decent chance to make the playoffs.

2209
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 5: Because there's got to be a name for this game. Then,

2210
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 5: I don't know the Invisible Men Bowl. Let's do a

2211
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 5: little news housekeeping, because I did think it was noteworthy

2212
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 5: that the Colts release Jack Leonard this week. It's easy

2213
01:36:56,080 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 5: to forget before he had multiple back surgeries, which is

2214
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 5: I think really limited his effectiveness.

2215
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 3: He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory.

2216
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was the defensive rookie of the year when

2217
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 5: he came out twenty eighteen. He made three first team

2218
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 5: All Pros in one second team. And you mentioned Chris

2219
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 5: earlier in the show. And it's funny as some of

2220
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 5: these players age out or they're not quite the same players.

2221
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 5: That makes me sad too, because some of these players

2222
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 5: when they came into the league. I think of how

2223
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 5: excited Chris was and he was just really banging the

2224
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 5: drum for what a great player Shaq Leonard was and

2225
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 5: he really was. And it's sad it happens with injuries

2226
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 5: sometimes with these careers.

2227
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 3: They just changed me. He's not even on the team

2228
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 3: anymore and.

2229
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Contract too, you know, from like personally, like my hero

2230
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 2: growing up was Don Mattingly. He was on a Hall

2231
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 2: of Fame trajectory and then a back injury derailed his career.

2232
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 2: Larry Byrd another all time back injuries are one of

2233
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 2: those type of injuries where it could just rob you

2234
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: of what makes you special.

2235
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 3: And it's sad, but that's what happens.

2236
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 2: And you give it up for Shack Leonard and it

2237
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: also was a look for him and maybe made the

2238
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 2: cults think twice. But him handing out the turkeys yesterday

2239
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 2: when made the rounds on social media with the Colts

2240
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 2: the day that he was let go just shows that

2241
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,719
Speaker 2: he is he's a you know, obviously a good stand

2242
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 2: up person, but also maybe you know, heads up, hey, teams,

2243
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 2: this guy's a leader and a good dude, and maybe

2244
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: you give him a chance to get his career back

2245
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: on track.

2246
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,879
Speaker 3: But the back injuries they rob you of greatness.

2247
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 6: I bet I'll get another chance. He got a chance

2248
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 6: on our shoulder in super Bowl week and was a

2249
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 6: great guest. That was back when we thought that he

2250
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:30,799
Speaker 6: was going.

2251
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 3: To the Hall of Fame. I don't even know you

2252
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 3: may remember that, not at all.

2253
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 4: Its absolutely true way that he was on the show.

2254
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely he was.

2255
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 4: It was when we were sitting on those couches. I'll

2256
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 4: never forget it.

2257
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,799
Speaker 3: Jack Leonard, Yep, I'm with Dan. I am no recollection.

2258
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 3: This is wrong. Put a thousand dollars on it. Find me.

2259
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 3: There's no way to know for sure.

2260
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 4: So there is, and we will find out. Yes, there

2261
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 4: is a way.

2262
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 3: Then I won't take you on the bed.

2263
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 4: He was one of our like massive. It was one

2264
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 4: of these days where, like you know, rolling through.

2265
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 2: Like originally the thousand bucks would have been decided by

2266
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: majority vote here in the room.

2267
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 3: But now that you're telling me there's a way to

2268
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 3: know for sure, Yeah, I'm going to not take you

2269
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 3: on that.

2270
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think you should. But he was a gentleman.

2271
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 3: That was my point, Turkeys. He's a great guest. He

2272
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 3: was very polite. I don't know turkeys everywhere. I feel

2273
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 3: like I would remember that, Greg.

2274
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 4: I feel like there are a lot of things that

2275
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 4: you acknowledge you don't remember.

2276
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 2: That is exactly the type of thing that I wouldn't remember.

2277
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 2: And I feel like Greg, it depends, you know, like

2278
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 2: we're headspace wise. But yeah, Greg usually is pretty sharp

2279
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 2: with these things as well. So well, there's just no

2280
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 2: way to know there is you could find the pod.

2281
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's up for debate.

2282
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 5: Furiously, I am looking for it right now. I can't

2283
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 5: couldn't find it when when I shoot, we'll see the bucks.

2284
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 5: By the way, I don't know if we mentioned it,

2285
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 5: are given two and a half points away. Very nice,

2286
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 5: that's about right. I think this is the toughest game

2287
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 5: to pick for the week. You know, maybe our listeners.

2288
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't decide on this one this week.

2289
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 2: It would be a really good gift on Thanksgiving is

2290
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: to give someone a whatever the team is personalized number

2291
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 2: eleven stap jersey for Thanksgiving this year.

2292
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 3: Like just when they show up eastraggling to find it.

2293
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 6: You completely lost me. All I'm looking for is that

2294
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 6: you get it. You have ten seconds to find it

2295
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 6: or I get the grand That is not how this

2296
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 6: works on any level. It must be based in fact,

2297
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 6: and I'll spend all weekend looking for it. I'll spend

2298
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 6: all Thanksgiving that youre looking for I.

2299
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 3: Mean, our listeners will find it if if it exists.

2300
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 2: All right, Yes, it is Thanksgiving this week, So happy

2301
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving to everyone, whether you're with your families or it's

2302
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 2: a friends giving type vibe, which is also a lot

2303
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: of fun. And enjoy all the football and know that

2304
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 2: we will be back. I think we kind of very

2305
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 2: quickly audibled, and we're going to do our Thanksgiving games

2306
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 2: recap on Friday. We're gonna do a record that early

2307
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: on the West Coast and get that out as soon

2308
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 2: as possible, and then we're gonna throw the Jets Dolphins

2309
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 2: into the Sunday night recap. So uh no double Friday

2310
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 2: podcast or we're not gonna hit all those games, but

2311
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: we're gonna have everything covered as we always do anything else.

2312
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 3: Boys, he's still well. First of all, you don't search

2313
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 3: Shaq Leonard. He changed his name then, so that's eight seven. Oh,

2314
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: I'll fight. What are you gonna do with your grand there?

2315
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 3: I'll find you're not getting a cinema either. Call Happy

2316
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:22,719
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving

2317
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 6: H