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Speaker 4: You can feel it. It's a football Friday. Year of

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Speaker 4: the show. We missed it last hour because we were

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Speaker 4: breaking down the scintillating performance of the Miami Dolphins only

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Speaker 4: losing by ten, only losing by ten to the Buffalo

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Speaker 4: Bills last night. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you know, is

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Speaker 4: what it is riverside. And now we move all the

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Speaker 4: way on over to another conversation that apparently involving somebody

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Speaker 4: else who's got a rich history in the AFC East.

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Speaker 4: Apparently this is a story that's not going away anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: And that's something is the Tom Brady conflict of interest

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Speaker 4: speculation from people around the NFL, and somebody else has

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Speaker 4: Pierce your guy. AP former Raiders head coach was talking

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Speaker 4: with Adam Shine on Serious XM about the Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: situation and had this to say, I think.

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Speaker 5: I would be uncomfortable if there's an other way around

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Speaker 5: to be honest with me, because you're not dealing with

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Speaker 5: this a normal person. Tom Brady is the elite of elite,

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Speaker 5: one of the greatest quarterbacks, one of the greatest players

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Speaker 5: in the game. He played against the honesty student of

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Speaker 5: the game. It's not far for him to watch a

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Speaker 5: And he'd be foolish enough to think that he does

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Speaker 5: and that's why you bringing a guy like Tom Brady

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Speaker 5: is the organization to be a minority owner because he

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Speaker 5: when they go in production meetings, they watch it. I

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Speaker 5: I just think that's a fact that I think everybody

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Speaker 4: So that was Antonio Pierce on the Tom Brady situation.

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Speaker 1: I was on the phone with him yesterday. We had

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Speaker 3: He can pick up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anybody who's been a consonant pro, been around

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Speaker 1: I heard somebody say, like things were so bad at

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Speaker 1: All the Patriots when Brady was there. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna say nothing and specific. I'm just saying, yes,

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Speaker 1: those things were taking place where people were sweeping the

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Speaker 1: just speaking, you know, like randomly just your conversation is

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Speaker 3: That is correct.

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Speaker 4: So after Spygate there was all sorts of paranoia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So and when you're that good, the question always

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Speaker 1: I think it's very And listen, Ap played against you know,

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Speaker 1: first Tom Brady, the Giants that beat Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots one percent. He's looking at it from the

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Speaker 1: about the respect that you would have to have for first,

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Speaker 1: first of all, we all know how good he is.

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Speaker 1: We know what he's accomplished to hear someone of AP's.

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Speaker 1: You know his background and his knowledge. He's one of

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be in the situations he's in now. He wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be working for Fox, he wouldn't be the minority owner

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Speaker 1: of the Las Vegas Raiders. He just would not be

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Speaker 1: And so the fact that he is should call call

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Speaker 1: for concern. I mean, the man is a minority owner

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Speaker 1: I just think for AP to have a strong opinion

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he would know if anybody would know,

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Speaker 1: he would know. And secondly, it makes for interesting conversation

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Speaker 1: because again it comes back to the question of why

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Speaker 1: why are you continuing on with it? I think that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest question. Somebody needed to kind of say, Nope,

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Speaker 1: look here, man, we're gonna grant you the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get this minority stake ownership, but you do know you

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Speaker 1: gotta let the booth go or the booth has got

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Speaker 1: to say to protect the integrity of what we do.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know you want to be an owner

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Speaker 1: over here, but can't you wait a little while longer?

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Speaker 1: Can't you just run this deal first before you purchase

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Speaker 1: that team, like somebody. The more I'm continuing to hear

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Speaker 1: taking into consideration, Like, Okay, he goes out and he

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Speaker 1: watches a practice. What if somebody that's like, what if

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Speaker 1: got a guy like he's probable or you know, game

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Speaker 3: Week or two or something to that effect. That could

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Speaker 1: He sees the dude, and the dude it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he ain't gonna be back in two weeks. Dude, ain't

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Speaker 1: not the way he's moving. Like stuff like just little

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Speaker 1: it just seems to be a conversation that you know,

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Speaker 1: what if you caught somebody arguing, you know, dudes are fighting.

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Speaker 3: What if you saw Tua.

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Speaker 3: You know, anything could play out, and.

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Speaker 1: Those things that play out behind closed doors, you'd like

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Speaker 3: Anything could play out.

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Speaker 4: What Antonio Pierce said, He's probably right, Yeah, I would

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Speaker 4: be concerned.

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Speaker 3: That would be nervous.

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Speaker 4: The concerns for people around the NFL. You're probably right,

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Speaker 4: those are warranted. You know, maybe you should be concerned

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Speaker 3: He comes walking in and it's like right, and he

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Come here and play for Let's make the Raiders great

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Speaker 1: He gets them yes, and he's getting them yeah, and

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Speaker 3: He don't even have to leave to go on the road.

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Speaker 4: The hero worshiping that I that I totally see, I

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Speaker 3: That's what it was.

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Speaker 4: And so like you know, some of this stuff ultimately

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Speaker 4: all of it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: All of it.

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Speaker 4: His influence, his impact, the role he would play sometimes,

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Speaker 1: And the dude is strategically sound. So knowing that, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: talk about it. That is the the that is the diversion.

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Speaker 4: He's got so many business ventures going on that people

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Speaker 4: and crannies, like little little places where he opened up

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Speaker 4: Like what does he have to do with Chicago? Nothing

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Speaker 3: That's when.

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Speaker 1: But that's when this conversation is going to be. Wow, Like, man,

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Speaker 1: he really did turn the Raiders around.

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Speaker 3: That's that said.

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Speaker 4: The concern people have about this weekend's game he's calling

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Speaker 3: I got news for you.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady could take a nap during that game and

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Speaker 4: Bum right, he's gonna say that it's bum fight, remember

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Speaker 4: City Chiefs and insisted officials this week to call the

439
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: play quote unquote tight going forward. According to ESPN, the

440
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 4: message from the league, which was first reported by The

441
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: Washington Post and later confirmed by ESPN, came in its

442
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 4: training tape to officials, which was distributed to all thirty

443
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: two teams on Wednesday. The NFL showed the Eagles running

444
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 4: the quarterback sneak on third and short late in the

445
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 4: fourth quarter for a first down in an eventual twenty

446
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 4: to seventeen winning Kansas City. So we're going to be

447
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 4: calling this play tight moving forward. So now, the entire

448
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: focus of the offseason was on this play, and now

449
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: it's here, We're two weeks into the season, and now

450
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: this is the entire focus again outside of Tom Brady's

451
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: you know, being in the booth and whether or not he.

452
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: Gets Chip Kelly and or Intel.

453
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: Now it's the edict from the league call this play

454
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 4: tight moving forward. So this is the point of emphasis,

455
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: if you will, that the officials come come up with

456
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 4: every single year. And I'm telling you, enjoy the Toush

457
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: push while you got it. This son of a bitch

458
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: is gone in the off season, gone man up and

459
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 4: vanished like a fart in the wind. They're already placing

460
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: it out there. They're planting the seeds, if you will,

461
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: to try and get rid of this play. They weren't

462
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: able to get it done last year in the off season.

463
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: I think this is the last year of the Toush push.

464
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 4: They're going to look into this again in the off season.

465
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: They're going to cite issues like this, and this play

466
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: will be out next year.

467
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. I don't see anything

468
00:25:53,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: new that makes the conversation that critical. I really don't.

469
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: I believe the Tush push is. It's a phenomenon and

470
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: it's in its own right because it's created so much

471
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: controversy and conversation around it.

472
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: But I feel like if if that were the case

473
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: what you're.

474
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of, if that were going to be the case,

475
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: that was going to happen this year, this offseason. My

476
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: my problem with the tush push is is that again

477
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: it's a bigger there's a bigger conversation here, which is

478
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: the idea of allowing guys to be aided and pushed

479
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: like it literally is a toush push. You see it,

480
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: Dude get his hands on the tush of Jalen Hurts

481
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: and gives him that extra momentum and force and torque

482
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: to be able to get through the line of scrimmage

483
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: and get those extra yards. That's not football. That is

484
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: not what football is supposed to be. You're not supposed

485
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: to aid a ball carrier. You should not be able

486
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: to aid push them. You should not be able to

487
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: be carry them, and you should not see be able

488
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: to pull them. Indeed, it should be none of the

489
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: above that you are allowed to do.

490
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: They're not luggage.

491
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they be damp bodies on the field, they

492
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: be knocked out. Dudes just be dragging them for like

493
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: five six more yards. Then they let them down on

494
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: the ground and they come scoop them up off the field.

495
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: Put the next dude in. Man, that shouldn't.

496
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: Be to me, the bigger issue is when did we

497
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: allow pushing, pulling and and and like you know put like.

498
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: Pushing, pulling, what else? What was the picking up and

499
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: carry and carrying?

500
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand when that became something that you're

501
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: allowed to do.

502
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 4: And that was their out this offseason. That's what they said,

503
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: We're going to get rid of that entire act altogether.

504
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: So that way, it didn't feel like the Eagles were

505
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: being quote unquote targeted or that the Eagles were you know,

506
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: we're targeting Philly because they've got this play that nobody

507
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: can stop it.

508
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: Just just stop the pushing, pooling and carrying. But they're

509
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: playing the Rams this weekend. Sean McVay already was quoted

510
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: this week is saying, yeah, we're going to talk to

511
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: the league about you know, the false starts.

512
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 4: Like it just feels like, all right, that was a

513
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: big game last week.

514
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: It was a discussion.

515
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: Sean McVay has already said, we've got concerns and we're

516
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: at week three. The NFL's now instructed their officials you

517
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: need to be I just think that we're going to

518
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: get to the point to where they're going to come

519
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: up with enough votes. They're going to come up with

520
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: enough teams, as opposed to the last year where Jeffrey

521
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: Lorie just stood up and he made some reference like

522
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: something that was insulting to the women that were in

523
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: the room or something along those lines, and somehow they

524
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: didn't make the change. I just think they're gonna look

525
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: at it this offseason and be like, hey man, this

526
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: is way too much dialogue and conversation for a play.

527
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: We're just gonna go ahead. We're gonna make sweeping changes

528
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: on the carrying the ball carrier and what you're allowed

529
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: to do with pushing a guy over the line of scrimmage.

530
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: That's the key, because you do away with the touch

531
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: push in a way, because quarterback keepers have always existed,

532
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't do away with a quarterback keeper short

533
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: yardage play. You want to get up under center and

534
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: you want to try to QB keep it, that's fine.

535
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with that, but you gotta

536
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: do away with the pushing, pooling and carrying.

537
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: I just to me again, you.

538
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Think about plays where guy's making a play down the field,

539
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: he's running, and then the defenders get a hold of them.

540
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: What do you usually see happen. You see linemen running

541
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: to the ball, and I mean they be hauling ass

542
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: to get to the ball, and they start.

543
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Hitting their own men, pulling their own men, hitting people

544
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: around the pal because that's what they're taught to do.

545
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Because the play's not over, you could actually go hit somebody,

546
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: knock them off, or push your own player, hit your

547
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: own player pushing forward like three four more yards. That's

548
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: to me where the danger comes into play is the

549
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: idea that these big mother efforts think that it's okay

550
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: to run down field and do that.

551
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: That's not safe. That's not safety.

552
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: That's not And I feel like if you take away

553
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: the idea of assisting ball carriers, you won't have guys

554
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: hauling ass downfield doing who knows what at the end

555
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: of the play where the ball carrier is. That's dangerous.

556
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: You don't need to have guys being a and assisted

557
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: in running the ball. Once your forward progress has stopped,

558
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: the play's dead.

559
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: It's dead.

560
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: There is no wait and see if they can push

561
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: him and overpower people by pushing him through the line

562
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: of scrimmage or pulling him through. That doesn't make sense.

563
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: That's not what football is. It's not what football is.

564
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: It's a game of skill, it's a game of technique,

565
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: and it's not a game that's considered to be one

566
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: of those ones where you're you're using aiding such as that,

567
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: you're not using pushing, you're not using pulling, you're not

568
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: using carrying.

569
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: You're not doing those things. And I find it to

570
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: be it's.

571
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Odd that it doesn't get called out when it happens,

572
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: and you'll hear the commentators, Oh my gosh, look at

573
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: the legs on that man. Look at the leg drive

574
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: that he has. Dude, you're clearly seeing two three linemen

575
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: leg drive. I've been while holding the dude and pushing him.

576
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 7: Through defenders that are there, like it's that sort of

577
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 7: fight that separates him from other players. I was look

578
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 7: at the determination he wouldn't be denied, Like what it's like,

579
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 7: my dude is knocked out, he ain't even there. It's

580
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 7: like my son, they hold him and the ball I took.

581
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 7: I took my son out.

582
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: We were playing, we're playing football at the park, and

583
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: then he wanted to do kicks and he calls him downkicks.

584
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: I want to do downkicks, and he couldn't get the

585
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: ball to go in the air like a real field goal,

586
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: and he kept trying, but he just kept like you know,

587
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: warm burning on the grass, like he couldn't get it

588
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: in the air. And so finally on the last time,

589
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: I timed it just right to where when he went

590
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: to kick and I was holding the ball, I flicked

591
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 4: it at the same time and it looked like an

592
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: actual field goal.

593
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: And he looked at me and said, Papa, Papa.

594
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: I made it.

595
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: I made I was like, yeah.

596
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 4: I couldn't re enact that if I tried, And I

597
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: tried the next time around, he goes, how.

598
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: Come it's not going in the air, Like I don't know, Bud.

599
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: And so when I was so I did It's like,

600
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: so I did it.

601
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: I did it again.

602
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: And it was so blatant that I was the one

603
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: who was guiding the football in the air like the

604
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: ballcarriers being guided like a lineman.

605
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: That he stopped and he looked at me and said,

606
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: why did you do that? And I think it.

607
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: Occurred to him that he'd been living a lie for

608
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: like two days. Like you've got ball carriers that have

609
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: been living a lie thinking, oh my god, it was

610
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: my leg drive.

611
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: No it wasn't. You aren't even on the ground.

612
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 7: Alignman carried you over the indze, Like, oh my god,

613
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 7: Tyland hurts.

614
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: He squatched eight hundred pound bron What about to do?

615
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: What about behind him pushing?

616
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: I just my favorite though, is that Andy Reid won't

617
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: let Patrick Mahomes run quarterback sneaks because he had that

618
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: freak injury on a Thursday night game where he dislocated

619
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: his kneecap because somebody he came around the side and

620
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 4: hit his knees. So he's like, we will not let

621
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: him do quarterback sneaks. So they have like one of

622
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: the one of their other tight ends do the toush push.

623
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and why not?

624
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, why not get like a straight up

625
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald Warren sap type dude. What's the dude

626
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: in Detroit? I never can remember his name? What's his name?

627
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: All the offensive tackle sel Yeah, give them the ball,

628
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: put all linemen in front, put maybe one tight end

629
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: behind just in case he worre to fumble like a

630
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: real big package.

631
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: And and and toush push. Yeah, why not.

632
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: Now now I would say this, I would say this,

633
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: there's the possibility that you could get four five six

634
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: yards off of doing that. So now you know what

635
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm getting rid of receivers, getting rid of

636
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: running backs unless that running is like a Mike oldstot.

637
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: And I'm loading up on all offensive linemen and we're

638
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: going to platoon our offensive linemen in there, and we're

639
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: going to touch push you to death. If you don't

640
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: stop it, we're gonna keep touch pushing you four yards,

641
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: four yards, four yards, three yards with fat ass.

642
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: Seven yards, which all fat ass is.

643
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Next group in four yards, four yards, next group in

644
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: four yards, four yards.

645
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: While they're doing it, while they're going to say, I'm

646
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: really gonna do this.

647
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna do it, yea, at some point the

648
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: defense is going to be like, man, f this, I mean,

649
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: think about it.

650
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: Think about it.

651
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna get three to four yards if you go

652
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: crazy heavy with a dude that has that type of

653
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: weight and there's more surface space for people behind them.

654
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: So you get one big dog behind him that's got

655
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: great leg drive, you're driving him, he's hitting a hole.

656
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna drive at least it's like pushing a sled,

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Speaker 1: a weighted sled. Them dudes on the other side, it's

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have me two.

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Speaker 1: Receivers on on just wear them down or punt wear

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Speaker 4: We are going to have our picks against the spread

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that for you here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: We were going to do our picks against the spread

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Speaker 4: LeVar have muddied the waters with money lines that have

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile rough week.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, you got old Faithful over here, just sitting there going, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go against the spread.

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Speaker 3: I don't need money lines.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about this with Carson Wentz starting in

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Speaker 4: place at JJ McCarthy in Minnesota, and I think you

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Speaker 4: made the point they're probably going to be a better team,

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Speaker 4: probably better man. And that's not like a knock on

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy. He's just not there yet.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've seen experience, and so if Wentz isn't

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Speaker 1: totally ruined by now, they're going to be a better team.

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Speaker 1: If he got the yips or anything like that, don't

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Speaker 1: count on.

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Speaker 4: It, okay, because I mean, let's be honest, man, JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: In the first game, outside of that fourth quarter meltdown

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Speaker 4: by the Bears, he wasn't good. Like it didn't look good,

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Speaker 4: and it didn't look good against Atlanta last week, like

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Speaker 4: Atlanta you know, won that game going away and probably

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Speaker 4: could have won it buy more. But so I look

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Speaker 4: at it, I go, you know, Kevin O'Connell, like you know,

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Speaker 4: he's you know, talking up Carson Wentz and what Carson

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Speaker 4: Wentz can do. By the way, Carson Wentz is starting

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Speaker 4: his starting a game for a different team six years

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Speaker 4: in a row now, so six years in a row

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Speaker 4: he started a game for a different team.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't have the yips, with all that talent

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Speaker 1: that they got on that team, man, he should be good.

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Speaker 1: All you got to do is just protect the ball,

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Speaker 1: that's all. Don't don't go get outside of yourself. Just

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Speaker 1: get Justin Jefferson the ball. Protect yourself, Get Aaron Jones

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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 3: You'll be good. Keep it simple. So the Viking's got

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Speaker 3: a shot. Be on some rock party type stuff, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: They got Jake Browning, how about it and his rocket

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Speaker 4: ship this weekend.

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Speaker 3: That is a rocket