1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday, November. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Another chaotic Sunday in the NFL. Fairly decent Saturday in 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: college football. I wouldn't call it great. On the hashtag 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: dad Life. I played pick up basketball indoors this weekend. 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. I did so because my family was 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: out of town. Uh. They checked out Yosemite National Park, 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: which they enjoyed. They saw a bear, and then I 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of forced him to come back so my daughter 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: could make her her soccer playoff game. Hopefully my wife 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: won't hear that, but she understands. Uh. And then my 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: daughter comes back, scores two goals and we win a 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: six five thriller. Again, when you are a little older 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: and not going out a lot, like I had a 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Hall pass this weekend, Rob and some of the you know, 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the dads, I'm like, boy, Hall passed 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: for me ten years ago. Shucks. I'm I'm in New 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: York City, you know, living it up. We're doing this that, 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: and now it's like I kind of want to wake 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: up early and play basketball. I was awesome. I loved 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: it two straight hours, well maybe an hour and a half. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I played well and it's fun. Um. Not as fun 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: as my Sunday gambling in the NFL, though, which was 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: one of my better weekends in a while. Um, And like, 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: there was just so many good ripe upsets. I wanted survival. 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. Fantasy not so well, but 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: it was a good gambling four and one in the contest. 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: And before I get to, um, the Kansas City Chiefs 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: who dominated Rob G's Raiders. I mean it was a 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: beat down of epic proportions. You could almost call that 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: a curb stomping. I know that's kind of inappropriate to say. 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: I said it once on TV and the producer was like, hey, 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: that might might be a little strong. I was like, 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: all right, fine, Um, I gave you guys that trend 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: that my buddy had seen of bet on teams that 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: did not cover against teams that did. It went four 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and one this week. The only loser was the Ravens 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football. Now, technically some people want to say, 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: well the Chiefs uh covered the opening line last week. 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't count that. Once Rogers was ruled out, Um, 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: it was just like the Maligne moved like seven points. 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: I was like, no way, that does not count. So 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: for and one on that, I will give you the 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: game that it applies to this coming weeks. You can 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: get into bets early before the lines move, because that's 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: what happens. But listen, I gotta start the pod with 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: a team that we just savaged for about a good 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: month there in the mid middle point of the season, 49 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: early to midpoint of the season, and it was almost 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: like a weekly thing, like what the hell is wrong 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: with these guys? They can't win? It has Andy we lost. 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: It is Mahomes, just an ordinary guy who was talking 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: about our dynasty. Dynasty Low and behold, the Kansas City 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs pulled down the pants of the Raiders with an 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: amazing performance four hundred and six yards from Mahomes. Five 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: Tuddies was not sacked, did have a couple dropped interceptions 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: that I'm sure Rob will point out was the massive 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: difference and the can the City Chiefs now are? Would 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: you believe this the second best record in the a 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: f C. Just let that sink in. Currently and again, 61 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: we got a long way to go. Seventeen games this year. 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: The Titans, who luck box their way into a win 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: again are eight and two. The Kansas City Chiefs at 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: six and four are currently second second in the a 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: f C. That to me is just crazy. Again, we 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: weren't writing them off. We were just at this moment, 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: at this juncture, the Chiefs are in trouble. Now. I'm 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: sure some people went overboard said, oh, after that loss 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: to the Titans, these guys are toast. They are terrible, 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: and you know what, that was a bad loss. I 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: was on them. The Bills lost at home was bad, 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: but we didn't totally write them off. Getting to the 73 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: playoffs was going to be difficult, but they able. They 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: got lucky against the Packers, not to face Aaron Rodgers. 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: They went into Vegas and performed very well. The Raiders 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: have been through some stuff in the last three weeks, 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: if you if you didn't notice, and the Chiefs are 78 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: sitting at six and four, folks, they're not dead. And 79 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: if you want to really think about it, let's open 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: the schedule for the upcoming Kansas City Chiefs. You ready 81 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: this week against the Cowboys who are coming off a 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: butt kicking. Uh. They just really humiliated the Falcons as 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: many thought we would um David Baker came on the 84 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: pod this week. Gave out the Cowboys. They delivered. Hope 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: you cash that one, then they gotta buy. And this 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: is who the Chiefs closed the season with Versus the Raiders, 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: who are not a good football team, Versus Rob GE's 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Raiders who are kind of reeling. It feels at the Chargers, who, 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, geez, I don't know what the hell's wrong 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. They's lost lost four or five Versus 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers, bad football team. I don't know, Rob We'll 92 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: see if we remind me later in the pod. I 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: have some deep thoughts on Steelers lines. I know nobody cares, 94 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: but I just need to say some words on that. 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: Um at the Bengals who are and at the Broncos, 96 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: who at week seventeen will probably be tanking. Um, folks, 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: this is going to be in eleven or twelve wind 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: into City Chiefs team and it's crazy to say, I 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: know it is. It's if they beat the if they 100 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys, we're looking at twelve wins and maybe 101 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: home field advantage in the playoffs. And now that the 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: Titans have a very easy schedule, but we'll get to 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: them a little bit. Their offenses not look good. In 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: two games with that Henry it is two wins, but 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: they haven't looked good to project going forward is not 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: well for them. But the Kansas City Chiefs right now, Rob, 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody's take other than okay, they're 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: starting to figure it out. The Kansas City Chiefs just 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: hung forty one on the on the Raiders and did 110 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: whatever the hell they wanted all night. No, the Chiefs 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: are not back in the a sense that everyone's gonna, 112 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: you know, talk about later today and all the morning 113 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: shows and the debate shows all throughout sports media. The 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Chiefs as we know them still are not back. Okay, 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: this said so much more about the Raiders than it 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: did about the Chiefs over the last month, when the 117 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs haven't really been strugg laying Patrick Mahomes was you know, 118 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: turning the ball over, had more turnovers than a bakery. 119 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: What was giving them trouble was too high safeties. Man underneath, 120 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders play a cover three that that you know, 121 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll brought with the Legion of Boom and Gus 122 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: probably has been running that defense for years now. So 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: naturally the Raiders side, you know what, we're middle of 124 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the pack with the cover three defense. Let's just stick 125 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: with that against the Chiefs who had been struggling for 126 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: a month against the specific defense. And of course the 127 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs carved him up. What do you think that is? 128 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Rob is that ego? Like, we know, I think they 129 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: struggle against this, Let's not do that and do something else. 130 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I think part of it is that the Raiders of 131 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: the last five or six years had multiple looks defensively, 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: and they were all terrible. They switched to this one 133 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: specific look like in their snaps and there at least 134 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: middle of the roads. So they're like, hey, let's not 135 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: jeopardize anything. Let's just stick to this because this is 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: what we are kind of good at. And and they 137 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: got lit up. You know. It's just everything that could 138 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: go wrong did go wrong. You mentioned the two drop picks. 139 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: That's one de Sean Jackson fumbling on a deep pass. 140 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look at that replay, like he catches it 141 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: and if he just keeps running, you go out of 142 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: bounds in four yards, but he turns it inside. The 143 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: defense then has a chance to poke it loose, and 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: it was like, welcome to the Raiders. De Sean Jackson, Yeah, exactly, 145 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: And it was just it was a bad night for them. 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. They were 147 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: heavily penalized, a lot of third down, you know, they 148 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: should have been third and long became third and short 149 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: because of defensive false starts. They had a fake punt, 150 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, be executed against them when the Raiders instroim 151 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: head coach is a special teams guy, so that should 152 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: never happen. So it was just it was it was 153 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: a Raiders night. You know. The Raiders have not been 154 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: good for twenty years, you know, and and anytime they 155 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: have a little bit of success recently in the last 156 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: three or four years, some thing happens and they just 157 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: fall off a cliff. Every time it's a big game 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: in a big spot there there, they get more likely 159 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: to get the blows, the doors blown off of them 160 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: than they are to actually win those games. So I 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: thought this was a Raiders meltdown in every sense of 162 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: the word. And I think you'll see next week when 163 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs play the Cowboys, that the Chiefs still are 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: not the Chiefs the All Caps cheps. Yet I don't 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: see it, well, we'll see. I mean, the troubling thing 166 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: for the Raiders was And again, the game just happened 167 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: last night, so I haven't seen a dive, deep dive 168 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: dissection into why the Raiders could only score fourteen points. 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: But I will remind you that Jalen Hurts went up 170 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: and down the field against his Chief's defense. Lamar Jackson, 171 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, I mean, Danny Dimes had them 172 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: in the game. Uh, other than Jordan's love like Ryan 173 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: Tannehill played really well against the Chiefs. The Chiefs defense 174 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: has been an abomination. Rob and Derek Carr could only 175 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: muster one for nine on third downs two yards. The 176 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs you don't want to call them back average six 177 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: point eight yards of play had five hundred and sixteen 178 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: yards like they they You could just see that, Mahomes. 179 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: If you don't do the defense that says, hey, we'll 180 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: give you that five six yard pass, we'll give it 181 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: to you, and you give them any opportunities that the 182 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: splash plays, you're screwed. And I just don't understand how 183 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders interim coach or the defensive coordinator could give 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: up Five different receivers had catches over twenty yards Byron 185 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: Pringle me Cole Hardman, and then of course Hill Kelsey 186 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: and Darryl Williams looking looking like Marcus Allen out there. Sorry, 187 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: I did Raiders actually bench Darryl Williams in my fantasy 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: league and for Kenny and Drake. You know, obviously, if 189 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: anyone knows fantasy football, that was just a terrible decision. 190 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: But I knew I was gonna win, so I didn't 191 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: want to root against my team on Today Night Football. 192 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Guess I think that's probably the funniest fantasy football comment 193 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I've heard in weeks. You didn't want to root against 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: your team and realize that such do you wear like 195 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders starter jacket during games or any Raider is gear? No, 196 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I do not. Okay. I showed up at my daughter 197 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: soccer game with the Jets T shirt on and a 198 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: buddy on the team, well, a daughter who's the guy 199 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: has a daughter who's friends with my daughter. He's wearing 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: his Charger stuff and we're kind of watching some of 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers game on my phone. I was like, what's 202 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: wrong with your Chargers man? He goes, listen, you got 203 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: a Jets T shirt on? Jay, all right, I gotta 204 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: fall back by the way quickly, before I get to 205 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: a pretty big story. I think it's gonna be probably 206 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: a bigger talking point than the Chiefs today. Rob Um, 207 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: did you see what the Jets defense has done recently 208 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: under Robert Sala, who is a defensive coordinator from the um. 209 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: They lost fifty four to the Patriots. They did beat 210 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: the Bengals, but the Bengal scored thirty one points. They 211 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: give up forty five to the Colts and forty five 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: to the Bills. So in the last two games they've 213 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: given up at ninety points. Okay, this is a former 214 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. All these bozos in New York who were like, oh, 215 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Mike White, we got a quarterback controversy, Mike White who 216 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: doubles as like a FedEx delivery man in the off season. 217 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: I think he threw four interceptions then he got hurt again. 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: That's two weeks in a row he's gotten hurt. Um 219 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: a crazy stat, Rob, I know, have gone on too 220 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: long on the Jets and people are probably gonna fast forward. 221 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: But all five starters in the Buffalo Bill secondary he 222 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: had to turn over against the Jets, all five. That's real. 223 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: That's a real thing. Four interceptions in a fumble recovery. 224 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: Let me say this to make you feel good about yourself. 225 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: Next time you tell that story about the Jets, just 226 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: say we have a record setting defense. Yeah, record back, 227 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: don't don't don't let them know what kind of record 228 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: it is to say we gotta record. It's just a 229 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: bad one. Um. The Jets were down thirty eight to 230 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: three at home before some garbage time um points. Thank 231 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: you Joe Flacco for the Elijah More uh fantasy points. Yes, 232 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: I had to start, and that's how bad it is. Um. 233 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: But they were trying to put lipstick on a pig 234 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: and make it look like the Jets weren't that bad. 235 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: They got their asses kicked and it's an embarrassment. The 236 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: good news is thanks to the Seahawks doing absolutely nothing, rob. Honestly, 237 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I thought this was one of my top three surprises. 238 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: The Seahawks could not score on the Packers defense. Zero points. What? Um? 239 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: The Jets now have the third and seventh pick in 240 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: the draft. How excited are you? Robbed they got to 241 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: top ten picks. As a Raiders guy, you should know 242 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: that you guys always have a lot of picks, right Ah, Yeah, 243 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: there's not enough the team anymore. That's all all right 244 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: now that I think this story is kind of a 245 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: sleeping giant. And you guys know I I've said I 246 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: I had got a buddy. I played pick up basketball. 247 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: If he lives near me, he does a lot of 248 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: He's like the head pr guy, marketing guy for Baker Mayfield. 249 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: So when he's getting all these commercials, dis guys like 250 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: making the deals and we're friends. And I have grown 251 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: to kind of like Baker a little bit based on 252 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: some of the stories this guys tells me. Obviously these 253 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: are all positive stories. And you know, I was thrilled 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: when O'Dell got chipped out of town. You can read 255 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: between the lines on that one, and then I was world. 256 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Baker looks solid against the Bengals, tossing a touchdown pass, 257 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: getting a little cocky in the post game interviews. And 258 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: I liked him against the Patriots, even after Nick Chella said, 259 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: you know what, it's bigger than that. They should be 260 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: all right, and they got embarrassed so badly forty five 261 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: to seven. There were one for eleven on third down. 262 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Baker tried to throw an end zone in the interception 263 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: on the first drive, then did throw an interception on 264 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: the second drive that gave the Patriots first in goal 265 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: and like, you know, seven minutes into the game. I 266 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: think it was the second quarter because the first quarter 267 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: drives are so long, and it was just a total 268 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: ship show for the Browns. One of the low points 269 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: of the Baker Mayfield era. I think the other one 270 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: would be when didn't he talk trash to Hugh Hugh 271 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: uh is not Hugh Douglas, Hugh um Jackson, Hugh Jackson, 272 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: thank you? He like he said something to him. There 273 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: was like like, come on, dude, grow up, and he 274 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: has grown up a little bit. He was so bad 275 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: it prompted a story by a guy who's come on 276 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: this pod before, Charles Robinson at Yahoo. And you guys, 277 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: you gotta read this. The Cleveland Browns may need to 278 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: mold quarterback options beyond Baker Mayfield. And he, I know 279 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: that's obviously sounds like, oh, that's very basic. Everybody knows that. 280 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: But he draws a parallel with Marcus Mariota and the Titans. 281 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: And if you guys remember Mariota got to the playoffs 282 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: with the Titans. They were up big on the Chiefs 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: and then lost. That was like the final uh, Alex 284 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Smith won that game, and then the next season they 285 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: handed it over to Patrick Mahomes, but Mariota didn't get 286 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: back to the playoffs, kept getting injured. They gave him 287 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: the fifth year option, and as like insurance, they traded 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill. They're like, yeah, let's just let's see 289 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: what we got. Let's let's leave our options open. And 290 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, um, you know, played himself out of starting 291 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: role and he was the number two overall pick. I 292 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: loved him coming out of Oregon, and he just never 293 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: worked for him. He just did not happen. And next 294 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: thing you know, they've got Ryan Tannehill waiting in the wings. 295 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know it, but things have looked damn 296 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: good with Ryan Tannehill. And I asked the question Rob, like, jeez, 297 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: this is one of those games where the only takeaway is, 298 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: holy cow, what the hell is wrong with Baker Mayfield? 299 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: He was bad. I know, he got injured the shoulder, 300 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: and we could play all these well he's kind of injured, 301 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: and you know he didn't have Nick Chubb with Kareem 302 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Hunt five, we can play that and that's real, that's factual. Um, 303 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: the kid Deanernist Johnson did play well in uh in 304 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: reserve for Chubb and Hunt. But the reality is Baker's 305 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: just not making throws they did have. They had zero 306 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: explosive plass pass plays down the field, no passes of 307 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: twenty and more yards. I just told you Patrick Mahomes 308 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: had five different receivers with explosive pass plays. They couldn't 309 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field, and any time Baker did, 310 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: there was like two or three Patriots there and You're like, jeez, 311 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: they they're just reading them like a book. The Browns 312 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: had two and seventeen yards of offense, one for eleven 313 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: on third down, three point seven yards per play. They 314 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: did nothing. Now, the Browns defense is another story. By 315 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: the way, Myles Garrett kind of calling out the defensive 316 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: cord later, you gotta wonder what the vibe is like there. Uh, 317 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: let me give you the exact quote if I can 318 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: find it from Miles Garrett. So we gotta go back 319 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: to the drawing board and say, we can be better, 320 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: see how we can scheme better, see how we can 321 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: make adjustments on the fly. We never had a chance 322 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: just because we didn't make any adjustments on the sideline. 323 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Oh boy, So of course the media like could say more, please, 324 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett just like, well, we didn't make adjustments as 325 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: they kept on scoring and we weren't countering that. So 326 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we need to do better. And I'll tell 327 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: you right now. Joe Woods has done a pretty good 328 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: job this season. UM a couple of spots, there is 329 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But the Browns defense is keeping 330 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett, who leads the NFL and sex and Joe 331 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Woods is gonna have to look for another line of 332 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: work if you don't make any changes. I'm concerned about 333 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: this Brown's team. Next week they have the Lions. Now, 334 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned that UM teams that did not cover versus 335 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: teams that did cover four and one last week. There 336 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: are four teams this week and the Browns fit the 337 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: bill they did not cover. They will face the Detroit Lions, 338 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: who did cover by tying Pittsburgh as big underdogs. Pittsburgh 339 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: didn't that big ben the other three games. If you're curious, 340 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I'll bury it in the middle of the pod. Uh 341 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: so only real listeners of the pod will get it. 342 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to leave it at the end, so 343 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: people just skip to the last five minutes. Yeah, we 344 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: can see who does that guys, Um Colts fit the 345 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: bill if you want to back them. They did not 346 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: cover against Jacksonville, at least I don't think they did. 347 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: And they played the Bills who did cover. Um the 348 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: New York Jets, Yes, that's right, the New York Football Jets, 349 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: if you can stomach that, the team that's given up 350 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: ninety points in the last two weeks. They faced the 351 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and the Atlanta Falcons, who got their doors 352 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: blown off by Dallas. They face the Patriots, and I'll 353 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: tell you right now, that's gonna be the toughest one 354 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: to swallow. But before you're like, wait a second, jee, 355 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: there's no way anybody's backing the freaking Falcons, the Jets, 356 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: couple the Browns. Give me a break. I just want 357 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: to remind you. In the afternoon games today, guys, Arizona 358 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: lost thirty four to ten at home to Carolina, who 359 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: last week got embarrassed by these same Patriots. Carolina started 360 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: p J Walker at quarterback. Shout out to Cam Newton 361 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: for getting getting back in his groove with the touchdown 362 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: run and screaming I'm back. A good visual, that's for sure. 363 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: And Washington, which was over a touchdown underdog at home 364 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: beat up on Tampa Bay, but one by ten. So 365 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: like this, when you look at it on paper, you're like, nah, 366 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: there's no shot of that. Reality is these games are crazy. 367 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 368 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 369 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 370 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. I had a 371 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: buddy at the soccer game, tell me, I don't know 372 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: how you bet on the NFL. These games are just 373 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: absolutely bonkers. Like Baltimore losing to Miami. What on earth 374 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: is that? And you know, Robb, I, this is why 375 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: this league is so amazing to monitor and play fantasy 376 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: and survivor. You just have no idea. Like Baker Mayfield 377 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: the Browns playoffs last year, win a game, expectations are high. 378 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: They look great in the first three quarters against the 379 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: Chiefs in the opener um up and down. It's like 380 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: this league is such a roller coaster. I think that's 381 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: why I like it so much. The unpredictability, it's just phenomenal. Yeah, 382 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and I would totally agree with you that 383 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: this season especially, it's been really hard to predict what 384 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: was going on. I mean, we saw last week all 385 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: these huge upsets and everybody's losing their minds. And then 386 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: this week you get the Cowboys and the Bills just 387 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: throttling teams like they were expected to do. But I 388 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: want to focus really quick on Baker Mayfield. I don't 389 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: see him as indicative of this NFL season as a whole. 390 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: I don't see him as this roller coaster Kupe player. 391 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield is just not a good quarterback. 392 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: I I know that everybody's very excited because they went 393 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: what was it a Evan and five last year they 394 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: made the playoffs, and everybody's all like, oh, yeah, you 395 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: know that he turned things around in Cleveland. And then 396 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they go and play a team 397 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: that is almost a mirror image of them in New England. 398 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna run the ball, we want to play defense, 399 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: we want to limit our quarterbacks exposure in the passing game. 400 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: And what happened? They get the doors blown off of them, 401 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: and you I won't even buy the thing like, hey 402 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: we're down. Uh Nick Chubb and Kareema, who are both 403 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: fantastic players, But I believe that New England was also 404 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: down there starting running back. They were down there starting 405 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: tight end, and that didn't matter because Mac Jones, for 406 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: all of his limitations and and even the play calling, 407 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: he can hit a seven and eight yard guy if 408 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: he's open passed a third down. Did you see how 409 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: perfect he was? Seven nine, by the way, and I 410 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: think he hit his first six. He was awesome. And 411 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, if they're not running the ball for five 412 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: plus yards to carry, he's shown that he cannot function 413 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: as even a mid tier quarterback in the NFL. So 414 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: what are you saying he's thirty two quarterbacks in the NFL? 415 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I would love We're not going to name all them, 416 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: but put a number on a rob if if there's 417 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: one to thirty two starters and we're gonna we're not 418 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna go with like colpe McCoy in there, all things 419 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: being healthy, Give me where the ballpark Baker is is he? 420 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: Is he in the fifteen to twenty? I think he's 421 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: somewhere in the eighteen to twenty two. I haven't I 422 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: haven't looked at the list that this is just you know, 423 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: top of my head, just kind of christ because I 424 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: don't think you can put the game on Baker Mayfield's 425 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: shoulders consistently and he's going to be able to be successful. 426 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: I know he's done it a few times. And you 427 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: know that that game last year against Baltimore was one 428 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: of the greater games I've seen from him. Specifically, he 429 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: was great, But throughout his career, the only success that 430 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: he's ever had in this league has been last season 431 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: when they ran the ball on first down, ran the 432 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: ball on second down, ran the ball on third down, 433 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: and then occasionally sprinting sprinkling some passes. And that's how 434 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: he's he's able to be good. Like the fact that 435 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I hate to bring this up, but the fact that 436 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: you had Odell Beckham Jr. Whether you think that he's 437 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: still a great receiver or not, that you can't even 438 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: get him the ball on a consistent basis tells me 439 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: all I need to know about you as a quarterback. 440 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: And Cleveland, I think that Charles Robinson hit it right 441 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: on the head. They need to consider an alternative to 442 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I don't know if they can get Aaron Rodgers. 443 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. There were Ryan Tannehill out there. And 444 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: that's the thing. You start to the league. You're like 445 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: there just where the fact that when they picked up 446 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: his fifth year option and commit I think it's what 447 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: like twenty million dollars that they're locked into. But what 448 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: it does is that it limits what they can do 449 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: on the trademarket. Because I believe that Russell Wilson might 450 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: be available. I believe Aaron Rodgers will hold hold on, 451 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: Come on, Russell Wilson. Really, do you think that things 452 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: are you know, p g ind up in Seattle right now? 453 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I think Russell would want to give it 454 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: a shot. But the idea that the Browns are gonna 455 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: trade and trade Russell Wilson um for what, like you, 456 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna They're the first thing they're gonna say, Garrett, 457 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: give me all the picks whatever. I mean, we've seen 458 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: in this league this season, especially that a good quarterback 459 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: can mask a lot of problems. You know, I mean 460 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers beat an undefeated Arizona team on the road 461 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: on a short week without three of his best receivers. 462 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: Because he does, you can trust he's gonna do enough 463 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: in the big spots to put you in position to win. 464 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: And if you're Cleveland, that roster top to bottom is stacked. Yeah. 465 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Rob. If you say, Russ, we 466 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: were willing to trade you, where would you like to go? 467 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: How is Russell Wilson saying Cleveland? Hell no, probably not 468 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: no way, Aaron Rodgers Cleveland? Who was it? Joe Kim Noah? 469 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Who was like? Does anybody talk about freaking vacation in Cleveland? 470 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: No vacation? Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I think I 471 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: don't mind picking up the option. I think you've just 472 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: got to get creative, Like, I mean, I don't know 473 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: what you Okay, you know when when the dolph hold up, 474 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: when the Dolphins dumped to uh and they try to 475 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: get Watson because we know Watson has a no trade 476 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: so he's not going to Cleveland. Um, do you make 477 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: a play for Toa Maybe maybe he's an upgrade over Baker. 478 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Here's the most I think 479 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: logical option. Derek Carr warm Weather guy. I think he 480 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: uh fresno stage. But if all has to do is 481 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: hand the ball off twenty five times and then went 482 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: on third down, he can absolutely do that. What okay, 483 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: I will see your Derek Carr and raise you a Mr. 484 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy he could do that too, he be 485 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: would be probably cheaper. Yeah, I think Garoppo would be cheaper. Uh, 486 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: he's already proven he can get to the Super Bowl 487 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: by being the ultimate game manager. Um, does Carson Wentz 488 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: do anything for you? I think Carson Wentz will still 489 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: be in Indianapolis. I think Gardner Minshew not really. I 490 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: couldn't say it with a straight faced Cooper Rush. Yeah. 491 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: What about Trabiski musta is it Maserati Mitch or Mustang 492 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Mitch or he you know what. I don't know if 493 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: he'd be an upgrade over over Baker, but it would 494 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt to try. Kind of like the Tannehill thing. 495 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: I think there's enough raw talent there that, you know, 496 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: Matt Nagy maybe the Midwest version of Adam Gaze that Nag, 497 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh gosh that is that's just look at the numbers, man. Um. 498 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: So I just a couple of can we a buzz 499 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: around the league real quick? I know some people want 500 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: to hear some NBA stuff because NBA got interesting, but 501 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: we'll have to save that for Tuesday or Wednesday. Guys. Also, 502 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: we may have a really good NBA guests this week. 503 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: We'll see um, all right, let's go back. Not to 504 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: stick in the a f C West too long, but 505 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: Chargers have lost four or five. I started thinking about it. 506 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Their defense is kind of built like the Rams, right, 507 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: two big splashy names Bosa, Derwin James, and then you 508 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: look around and it's like, oh my gosh, these guys 509 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: stink on defense. I mean, their defense is just getting 510 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: pushed around, and they have a defensive minded coach and Staley, 511 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: who was like, you know, everybody loved Brandon Staley. Oh, 512 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: it's a genius for some of the calls he made. 513 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: Of course, that Brown's game was huge and like everybody 514 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: loved it. Since that game, they've been pretty bad. It's 515 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: disappointing because I love me some Herbert, and I'll say 516 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: right now, like Herbert has not been great. He had 517 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: a pretty bad interception against the Vikings. I think Kendricks 518 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: picked it off, and I listen, I don't think Herbert 519 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: is one of these dudes who's letting stuff go to 520 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: his head. But since that that went over, the Browns 521 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: was forty seven forty two when he had four touchdowns 522 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: almost four yards, he really hasn't done much outside of 523 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: the Eagles game and we know the Eagles past defense 524 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: is a joke. Um, Herbert has been bottled up. He 525 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything against the Patriots, you could arguely lost 526 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: the game for them. And it was not good against 527 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the Vikings. So he was also not good against the Ravens. Um. 528 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: Those are some of his worst games, his his worst 529 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: QBR games of the season. And if you don't like QBR, 530 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: go to Quarterback Rating. We're against New England and Baltimore, 531 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: two very good teams. But he wasn't great against the Vikings. 532 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: And when you have a defense that's just getting run 533 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: over on every play because they can't stop the run, 534 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: you're just gonna get lit up. And I feel bad 535 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: for Herbert because I like this Chargers team. Man. I 536 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: would love for too, you know, and the Super bowls 537 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: out here and so Fie and I would love for 538 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers or Ramps to get to the super Bowl. 539 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: I just all of a sudden, I don't see it. Um, 540 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: this defense is just bad, justin Jefferson basically just getting 541 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: open left and right against his secondary. Um. I don't know, man, 542 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty down on the Charges right now. Rob. 543 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: You know what I think, I hold you early on 544 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: in the season that the Chargers are consistently one of 545 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: the most disappointed teams in football because their roster, similar 546 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: to the Browns, is very stacked, even more so because 547 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: they have Justin Herbert, who I think, let's define stacked, 548 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: rob let me hear your definition of stacked. They have 549 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: multiple Pro Bowl caliber players on their roster, like up 550 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: and down the roster. You can go on the defensive line, 551 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: the secondary, you know, the offensive line, the skill position, like, 552 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: they have a lot of guys who I think are 553 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: very talented, and the fact that they have a stud 554 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and Justin Herbert, I think puts it over the top. 555 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, I don't know if it's coaching, 556 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, if it's karma, I don't know what 557 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: it is. But they find a way to always be 558 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: like eight and eight, nine and seven, seven and nine, 559 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Like they will find ways to lose games that are 560 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: really close that they probably shouldn't and that's just what 561 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: their m O has been for the last several years. Like, 562 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't understand what it is that they can't be 563 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: as good as their talent suggests that they should be. 564 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: And it's just it's baffling to me. Um, it's weird. 565 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: So I went to Pro Football Focused and look like that. Again, 566 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Pro football Focus is not the end all be all, 567 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: but it's a fair fair reference point, so they grade 568 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: out players and again we can quibble over the grades 569 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: and all that. Fine. Whatever that being said, Green is good, right, 570 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: obviously green money, ha ha. So they have two guys 571 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: in the Green Bosa and Derwin James are rated very 572 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: highly this year. It's some cornerback I've never heard of 573 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: named Campbell. He apparently went to college in Canada. I'm 574 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: assuming you know he's pretty new to the league, undrafted 575 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: in twenty He's he's graded out well, but only in 576 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: like four games. Almost everyone else on the defense, including 577 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: the young kids Samuel, who's been good at cornerback, is 578 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: basically bright orange like Nuo Sue. On the edge, they 579 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: graded out a hundred and ten edge rushers. He's Their 580 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: linebackers are very bad, and then their defensive tackles can't 581 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: stop the run at Artillery grades out hundred and third 582 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: out of their defense is so soft in the middle. 583 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: All you've got to do is focus on Bosa, who's 584 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: still winning even when he's double teamed and there's really 585 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: nowhere else they can stop you if you put drawings 586 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: in the James in the box Shore. But then your secondary, 587 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: which is beat up, is getting torched. And I just 588 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: feel bad. I mean, I think they've given up twenty 589 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: eight or twenty seven or more points in like five 590 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: straight games, and that's just that. It's tough to win 591 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: like that, tough to win for like that. For the Chargers, 592 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm get and worried because we all know that 593 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, given that schedule, are gonna are gonna come 594 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: out of the of the a f C West. That's 595 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: a given right. You'll concede that, Rob, Yeah, I think, Um, 596 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: as soon as they wanted last night against the Raiders, 597 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: I think that division was there and I thought they 598 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: were gonna win anyway, So I kind of agree with you. 599 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: So then you've got the Raiders and the Broncos who 600 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: are jekyl and high teams that you just have no 601 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: idea who's going to show up. I just I you don't. 602 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: Every week, the Colts are sneaking their way back into 603 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: the wild card Mix five and five. Um, you got 604 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: interesting aims coming up for the Steelers and Bengals and Browns. 605 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I'll quickly say this about the Pittsburgh Steelers. How unbelievably 606 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: bad and predictable Mike Tomlin is. I mean, rob any 607 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: time their favorite by five against a bad team, just 608 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: go the other way. Mike Tomlin never ever delivers as 609 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: a big favorite. He's great as an underdog, the ultimate 610 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: raw rack. I could fire up the guys. You know 611 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: this is so nerdy. I can't believe I'm saying this. 612 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: So when I coach my kids in sports, one of 613 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: my things to get them fired up is the movie Troy. 614 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: If you guys have seen that with Brad Pitt some 615 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: of you may have. I'm sure it was panned by 616 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: the critics who are idiots. Um So, Brad Pitt is 617 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Achilles and they are on the boat ready to take 618 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: the shores, and he gets them fired up with this 619 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: epic thirty second speech and in the middle of it 620 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: he's like, I would rather go to war with any 621 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: of you than anyone else. Remember who we are. We 622 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: are lions. And they all just start like getting I 623 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: just want to and like that's what Tomla does. We 624 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: are underdogs. These guys are not better this. What do 625 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: they go out and do against the Buffalo Bills in 626 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: the opener, they beat him like. This is what they 627 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: do underdogs against the Browns, what do they do? Beat 628 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: them like? As a favorite. And I mean, I know 629 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: Steelers fans have to be crestfallen that Mason Rudolph is 630 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: still the backup quarterback because he is awful. Um, I 631 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: don't know how you can look yourself in the mirror 632 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: after tying the Detroit Lions. And by the way, the 633 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: Lions were bad, rob they were horrible. Yeah, but you 634 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: gotta cut in some slack. They planned all week for 635 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: Big Band. They had no intention of Mason Rudolph's ever 636 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: touching a football. Bro It's the windless oh and eight Lions. 637 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolp's been with the franchise for three years at least, right, 638 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph is terrible. He's still been there with Cooper Rush. 639 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Don't tell me backup quarterbacks cancer. Mike White steps in 640 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. Mike White is a legend for one game, 641 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: legend in the New York media's mind. I'm sorry, I've 642 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: seen too many backup quarterbacks. By the way, yes, I know, 643 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: Colte McCoy, Shad his pants against Carolina. But on the 644 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: first one when you step in, it's like, oh wow, 645 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: this is I mean, what you think The Lions all 646 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden had a Saturday night cram session to 647 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: get ready for Mason Rudolph. Like, I just I'm not 648 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: buying it. If you've been with the franchise that long 649 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: and you can't step in and do Jack squad against 650 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: a windless Lions team, you stink. By the way. Also, 651 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh defense, the strong and mighty Pittsburgh defense gave 652 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: up two and twenty nine rushing yards to a bunch 653 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: of guys. Honestly, Rob, I've you know, I play fantasy, 654 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: I follow college football in the NFL. I don't even 655 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: know who this um Godwin Igua bick had it. One 656 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: of the most punished he went to Northwestern one of 657 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: the most punishing touchdown runs. Steelers uh missed like six 658 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: tackles on the play, and then they had another guy 659 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: who broke off a long touchdown rod So the last 660 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: name is Jefferson, and let me just call up his 661 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: name because again there's another dude, like you can't have guys. 662 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Jermar Jefferson seventh round pick out of Oregon State dudes 663 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: coming in off the street basically breaking off twenty plus 664 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: yard TV runs. That's embarrassing. This is a Steelers team, man, 665 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: I know people were excited about the potential and oh, well, 666 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: you know they showed well. Um, they beat the Bills, 667 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: They beat the Seahawks. No, Russell Wilson for the fourth quarter, 668 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: I believe um or no, do you know played that 669 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: whole game? That's right? Do you know started that? It 670 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: was a Sunday night game. They beat the Browns. All 671 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: these playoff teams as like, oh these guys are they're done. 672 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: They still have two games against the Ravens. Not that 673 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: the Ravens are great. They got Browns, they got Chiefs, 674 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: they got Titans. I mean basically they played the two 675 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: best teams in the a f C. Now, I know 676 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: what you're thinking, Jason. You just told me when they're underdogs, 677 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: they deliver. They will be dogs probably in both Ravens games, 678 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: probably on the road in Minnesota, definitely against Tennessee and 679 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. So does that mean they're gonna be like, 680 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, five and one straight up in those No, 681 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't. They will probably cover the spread, fight hard, 682 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're beating any of those teams. Um. 683 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are probably gonna end up with 684 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: like seven wins max. And then you gotta start asking 685 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: real hard questions like I just tried to give Jimmy 686 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: g to Um. What team did I just try to 687 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: give Jimmy G two Rob Cleveland? Yeah, I was trying 688 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: to get Maybe it's a an a f C North 689 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: battle over Jimmy Jimmy Garoppolo um, because you got to 690 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: move on from Ben. And it's weird because there's several 691 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: teams you need a quarterback. I'm sure you guys saw 692 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: the news. Ryan Fitzpatrick done for the year in Washington. 693 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: He's not coming back, that's for sure. And I know 694 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke had a nice win UM aided by like 695 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: a ship ton a metric ton of Tom Brady turnovers. UM. 696 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: But it's not like Taylor Heineke's gonna go in the 697 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: next season as the starter. He's a backup. So now 698 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: you got like Miami Carolina, UM, Pittsburgh, maybe Cleveland all 699 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: in the market for a quarterback, and it's like, Okay, 700 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: there's Deshaun Watson and Jimmy g and I just want 701 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: to point out to people who say Jimmy G stinks, 702 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: go look at Ryan Tannehill in Miami before he got 703 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Look up the stats. I mean, I watched 704 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: him closely because he's an ANFC East guy, and as 705 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: a Jets fan, I loved facing Ryan Tannehill because he 706 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: was a bad quarterback. But I'm sure Rob will point 707 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: out that Adam Gaye was his coach, and I guess 708 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: the opposite is true with Jimmy G. Wait a second, 709 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: this guy didn't put up big numbers with Kyle Shanahan, 710 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to make, you know, lemon lemonade out 711 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: of lemons with Jimmy G. I don't know if I 712 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: want him, so then it's gonna basically be just a 713 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: bidding war for Deshaun Watson, assuming he could get his 714 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: act together with those lawsuits. I don't know, man, What 715 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: about how about this one? Arthur Smith maybe not happy 716 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: with matt Ryan probably get a high draft pick. Do 717 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons say thank you for your service? Matty Ice? 718 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: If you want to go end your career elsewhere, you 719 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: could do that. I don't know what's the market like 720 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: from Mattie Ice. If you're Cleveland, you jump all over 721 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: Mattie Ice. He's the perfect game manager, right absolutely. I 722 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: mean he was an m v P if memory serves, 723 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: And I also kind of feel like, yeah, Matt, Matt 724 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: this was not that long ago, right, Did they go 725 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl or something? Yeah, they were really 726 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: really good. I mean he's one of the few Kyle 727 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: Shannaha's success stories. Extra shots. All right, Um, we've probably 728 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: gone long enough. Do we miss anything, rob uh No, 729 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned it quickly, but shout out to 730 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: Cam Newton first two plays, happy, that's a story. That's 731 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: very cool. Little redemption. You know, it's nice people. Oh, 732 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: by the way, yes, undisputed from Friday. You know, people 733 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: thought I was being harsh on Cam, but the reality is, guys, yeah, 734 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: look at his age, look at the you know, passing 735 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: numbers the last last year with the Patriots. Look at 736 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: the shoulder surgeries that he's had. Look at the fact 737 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: that he was on the frigging market for nine weeks 738 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: and nobody touched him. And we just talked. We just 739 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: went to thirty minutes of podcast about all these guys 740 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: desperate for quarterbacks and nobody wanted any part of Cam Newton. 741 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: So I like the story, it's great, but the reality is, 742 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: don't start thinking that he's a starter next year. That's 743 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: just that's not happening. Fox Sports Radio has the best 744 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 745 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 746 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 747 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching 748 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. Here's 749 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: your best bet. Let's get to the best bet here 750 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: on straight fire Monday Night Football rams at forty Niners 751 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: quick Fantasy note. Because I know you care about them, 752 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: I lead my buddy Dan regular listener by one. I 753 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: have Deebo Samuel, he has Cooper Cup. Could be a 754 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: problem for me, although Deebo does get fair share of 755 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: carries and will oh b J take looks away from 756 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Robert Woods, of course out for the season. 757 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: That's a brutal loss. That's they lost two starters already 758 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: in cam Akers and Robert Woods for the season. So Odell, 759 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: I guess slides into the Robert Woods role, and I 760 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: you have to wonder, if you're the Niners, do you 761 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: scheme up? Hey, let's pull a Belichick take away their 762 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: best option Cooper Cup, who runs amazing routes. I follow 763 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: this this account on Instagram. I think it's called Receiver 764 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: Factory or something like that, and just watching the footwork 765 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: of these guys. They on their stories, they sometimes post 766 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: some Cooper Cup stuff. I mean, his routes are just honestly, 767 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's a football porn basically, the stuff Cooper 768 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: Cup is able to do. And as soon as he 769 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: turns there's the quarterbacks trust him so much, whether it's 770 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: golf or Stafford, the ball is right there because they 771 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: know Cooper Cup is gonna be there. I really like 772 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: watching him, so it's tough for me to go against. 773 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: But I actually, and I know you guys are gonna 774 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: like this. I kind of sort of like San fran tonight. 775 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Rob, is that crazy? Were you on 776 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: this one? That's the worst betting advice you've ever got. There, 777 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: we get there, we go and like a year and 778 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: a half of doing the pot, I mean, I thought 779 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: you knew that. I believe San Francisco has lost eleven 780 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: of twelve at home, and so the rams I believe, 781 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: as of this morning, are only three and a half 782 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: point favorites. I think that's the number. So you're you're 783 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: feeling confident. I didn't say anyth about feeling confident. I 784 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: did not say anything about feeling confident. I think this 785 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 1: is going to be a not easy, but it's gonna 786 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: be a clear Rams victory. Give me the Rams. Uh, 787 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, minus the three and a half on the road. 788 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy g is going to get his h pack his bags, 789 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: get ready to move to the Midwest somewhere during the 790 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: off season. It's going to be good for them. So 791 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: here's the thing. And again from a gambling perspective, three 792 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: and a half okay, the house will absolutely need the 793 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: forty Niners big because you saw last week. I mean, 794 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: the forty Niners were awful. The Rams didn't look great 795 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: at themselves, but the forty Niners were awful against Coldblcoy. 796 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, man, who is betting the 797 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: forty Niners? Is anyone anyone out there touching the forty 798 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: Niners at home? You just said it. They lost eleven 799 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: of twelve at home. Who's touching him? And then you 800 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: dig just a little deeper and you're saying, oh, oh, 801 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has owned McVeigh last four meetings, Niners, Niner, 802 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: Niners one, Niners seven. I was actually at the seven game, 803 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: and you just start like, huh is there? You know 804 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: that division is weird, Rob. There are quirky matchups. Were like, 805 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: I think it's the ram Zone, the Seahawks, the Ramson, 806 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: the Niners, but for some reason the Rams like Aunt 807 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: beat Arizona. I forget exactly what it is, but that 808 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: division had some oddities. They got four good coaches, four 809 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, four good teams. But if you're Kyle Shanhan, 810 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: you remember Peter King came on here and said, this 811 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: is Shanahan's last stand basically against the Bears. And what 812 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: do they do? They went in there and beat up 813 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: on the Bears. Now, I know that's easier said than done, Um, 814 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: but they were favors and they covered. Well, this feels 815 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: like it's Kyle Shanahan's last stand, part du doesn't it, Um, 816 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: unless he's already fired. I don't think they're expected to 817 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: win this game anyways, So I don't think this is 818 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: one of those hey you better get this done like 819 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: they were against Chicago. You know, I think that UM 820 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: and and and as much as I'm you know, I'm 821 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: critical of Matthew Stafford as much as anybody, but he's 822 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: a huge upgrade from Jared Goff. So I think that 823 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: it would behoove you if you're listening to this podcast 824 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: and not put money on San Francisco. Okay, just saying so, 825 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: so you like the Rams, will give me let's put 826 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: a score on it. Uh let me get fifty. By 827 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: the way, let me get the Rams. Uh two six. 828 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: I should probably check the weather and crappy San Francisco. 829 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: It's always the weather is always like a massive rainstorm 830 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: or just like it's just never good there. I like 831 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: the city, although you know, the homeless situation there sounds 832 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: like it's getting really bad. Some of these news reports. 833 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: Um and the injuries. I'm sure you saw, um Josh 834 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: Norman one of the worst cornerbacks in the league. Like 835 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: go again, if you have pro football focus, go look 836 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: at their defense. You've got orange all over the place. 837 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: I think they're among the lead leaders and miss tackles 838 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: right there with the Ravens. Like this is just I mean, 839 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: they've lost so many guys to injury. I just I 840 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: don't see why anyone will back them. And that's why 841 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: I kind of will back them. Now again, this is 842 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be I'm not putting like five dollars on 843 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: on the Niners in this spot, No way, no shot. Uh. 844 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: It will be a small play and action play, um, 845 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: and I think the Niners deliver. So I'm taking three 846 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: and a half. Later this afternoon, I will get the 847 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: props on I G stories. I'm getting my booster shot 848 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: today and if all goes well, there's a chance I 849 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: might be at the Lakers game tonight. But there's also 850 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot going on, a lot going on heading into 851 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: getting ready for the holidays. Um, but this is a 852 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: long Monday pod, Rob, and good luck with getting We'll go. 853 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: We're going head to head on this one, Niners Rams, 854 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: and then uh come back tomorrow. Folks will have more 855 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: great stuff here on Straight Fire. See you then,