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Speaker 1: And that's a wrap on the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Sirek Paul Calvic

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Speaker 1: both join me for another roundtable discussion. We talk about

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Speaker 1: Saturday's four picks, three more defensive players by the way,

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Speaker 1: plus we give our thoughts on the seven player class.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight seventy seven and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Poda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 4: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: So I think the real winner of the draft was

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Nick Rawlis, and I think Danny he's been

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Speaker 1: the real winner this entire offseason, considering the additions in

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Speaker 1: free agency and now six of your seven draft picks

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Speaker 1: here over these three days centered on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Well, offensive coordinator Drew Petsing over the years has had

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Speaker 4: his fair share of attention with Paris Johnson Junior and

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior, and tight end Trey McBride becoming the

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Speaker 4: highest paid tight end in NFL history. So Petsing has

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Speaker 4: had his players. This was defense of the coordinator, Nick

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Speaker 4: Rawlis's time to shine though. I mean six of the

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Speaker 4: seven draft picks for the Cardinals on the defensive side

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Speaker 4: of the ball, not even taking into account all the

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Speaker 4: defensive acquisitions in free agency, it's very clear that that

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Speaker 4: was the side of the ball that they really wanted

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Speaker 4: to fortify this offseason now, not necessarily going into the

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Speaker 4: draft specifically, which general manager Manny alsen Ford did specify

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Speaker 4: in his post draft press conference which he held with

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Speaker 4: assistant general manager Dave Sears. They didn't go into this

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Speaker 4: draft saying, Okay, we're really only going to focus on

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Speaker 4: defense and if it falls with an offensive player, will

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Speaker 4: do that. That's not how it works, is how the

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Speaker 4: board fell. But it's a good thing that I think

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals ended up really focusing on defense, Paul, given

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Speaker 4: how last season shook out.

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Speaker 3: Well, guys, you know, we give out the coveted Rex

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Speaker 3: year's past, we've given out to a certain team. Rex Ryan,

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Speaker 3: of course, as head coach of the Bills, declared we

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Speaker 3: got fired. So we give out the winning the Offseason award.

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Speaker 3: But maybe for the first time ever, we should give

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Speaker 3: it to an individual. To your point, Craig nick Rowlis,

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Speaker 3: maybe we should just hand him the hardware instead of

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Speaker 1: Since I want to make sure that everyone knows that

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Speaker 1: it's watching Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, presented by

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Speaker 1: or Cardinals present Cardinals Cover two percented by Hyundai, proud

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Speaker 1: actually do have a problem.

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Speaker 3: Is it an official draft?

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Speaker 1: Is this the is this the gift or this the

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Speaker 1: honor the trophy that you're giving to don't.

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Speaker 4: You get your hands on a draft? Hot? Is my question?

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Speaker 3: Where do you think I spent the first round of

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Speaker 3: the draft? Danny out of the draft party? Okay, you

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Speaker 3: know the superch is in abundance. Were you giving one

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Speaker 3: or did you just kind of take I'm sorry, borrow one, Greig.

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Speaker 3: When I tell the fans it's all access at the

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Speaker 3: draft party all access because we're giving them coverage like

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Speaker 3: Danny's one on ones outside the draft room. Well, there's

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Speaker 3: other types of all access if you will.

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Speaker 4: Five finger discount, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Just you know what else you got. Don't don't check

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Speaker 3: the paperwork or the expense report. Okay, it just I

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Speaker 3: it's for the sake of the show. For Pete say, okay,

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Speaker 3: all rkay. Speaking of the show, here do you guys

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Speaker 1: Let's run down the four picks that were made on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: a hot take right now already.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure we need something to energize the room here

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Speaker 3: A year ago, the Stinking Rams took a six round

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Speaker 4: What stood out to awesome for in Sears playing those

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Speaker 4: So I like bringing in competition. I have no problem

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Speaker 4: there's already some connection there with them. And in twenty

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Speaker 4: fun fact, he was actually drafted on his birthday, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a week after he got married.

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Speaker 4: So that is a key when looking at that position room.

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Speaker 4: And for all the animal lovers out there, you will

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Speaker 4: love Hayden Connor. He and his wife have a Pause

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Speaker 3: And then here's the other thing. He played really well

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Speaker 4: Maybe, don't be dramatic. It's what eighteen cornerbacks?

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Speaker 4: Football, clean disciplined football. He had a big role on

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Speaker 4: So this makes sense to me, especially when you're looking

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Speaker 3: That old coaching cliche and there's a lot of truth

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Speaker 4: Becker Hearing simon wore the green dot made my ears

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00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 4: perk up because of that competition that is to. Come

435
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 4: he's been described as patient and called himself a. Learner

436
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: when you start to learn more About Kyitie Cody simon

437
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: as a, person it makes sense why he was A

438
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 4: cardinal's draft, pick and they talk so much about the

439
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 4: culture and the type of person in addition to being

440
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: the right type of. Player he was a twenty twenty four,

441
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: captain had a team high one hundred and twelve, tackles

442
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: finished twelve and a half tackles for, lost seven, sacks

443
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: DEFENSIVE mvp of The Rolls. Bowl but this is where

444
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 4: it really starts to fit as A Cardinal Big Ten

445
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: medal of, honor which recognizes excellence and athletics and. Academics

446
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 4: and he was the block of, recipient so he wore

447
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: the number, zero which is an honor For Ohio state

448
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: and has been described to us as a pillar of

449
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 4: what it means to be A buckeye on and off the.

450
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 4: Field somebody who is leading in the classroom and the

451
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 4: community and on the. Field and that fits to a

452
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 4: te of what this staff in front office wants to

453
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 4: bring into this. Building somebody's going to put the team. First,

454
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: simon a two year, starter has a finance degree and

455
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: was playing his fifth year getting his.

456
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Masters, wow that's. It so like bg O jlari being

457
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 3: awarded the eighteen jersey right, exactly very. Similar no's that's really.

458
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: Interesting and then to see there's another stat that since twenty,

459
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: twelve he's one of three players with one hundred tackles

460
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: in a single season plus seven or more sacks and

461
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: seven or more passes. Defense, now if there's one weakness

462
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: in his scounter, report it's in coverage he runs a

463
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: four to. Six you're not gonna send him down the,

464
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: field you, know he wouldn't be a guy who's gonna

465
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: be checking like A trey McBride one on. One but

466
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: how many inside linebackers can really do? That Fred warner.

467
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 3: Can't he's proved that year and in year out the last

468
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: two years Against trey, McBride one of the best in the.

469
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: Business can't Check trey. McBride so that's why you have

470
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: your dynamic safety room where A Jalen, thompson Budda Baker,

471
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: rabbit whomever would be the one maybe assigned to another

472
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: team's playmaking tight. End But Cody simon and And Hayden,

473
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: CONNOR i think For day three, picks there're gonna be

474
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: two guys to watch in.

475
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: Camp cody mentioned during his conference call that he spent

476
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: a lot of time at the scouting combines speaking with

477
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: linebackers Coach Christian, garcia and, again you have these, conversations

478
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: but it's a position coach with a, position not general,

479
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: manager not head, coach but speaking with the position coach

480
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: because those are the ones that are gonna have their

481
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: hands on these players the, most but found that a

482
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: little interesting as. Well, again maybe more to get to

483
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: know the person versus the, player because everyone can turn

484
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: on the film and see what kind of a player you.

485
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: Are but it goes back to the evaluation. Part but

486
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: again when you talk about positions that are kind of

487
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: up in the, air and, yeah it's a day, three

488
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: which means it's gonna be difficult because you weren't selected

489
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: On thursday Or. Friday But i'm in agreement With. PAUL

490
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: i like to say it out, Loud, danny but, yeah

491
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: as far As Cody simon And Hayden, Connor i'm gonna

492
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: have my eye on them come training.

493
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: Camp you know what coaches can learn for work in

494
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: combine drills or going To All star games though even

495
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: those very few interactions that might not be very, long

496
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: is the player? Coachable that's what they're. Learning that is

497
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: something that is very, valuable an intangible piece of a

498
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: player that you can take away from those kinds of.

499
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: Experiences you can watch the tape and you can see

500
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 4: if they can. Play you can have formal meetings to

501
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: test THEIR iq. Right you can have conversations with people

502
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 4: in that player's building at their school and you can

503
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: get a feel for. Them but when you're down on

504
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: the field and you are getting hands on experience of

505
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: if that player is, coachable that's.

506
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: Huge you, know in our, HOUSEHOLD i use the term

507
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: know it all. ITIS i have a couple of, teenagers

508
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: and you, know you hit high, school you think you

509
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: know it, all and so every once in a WHILE

510
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: i have to remind them you have an ac case

511
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: of know it all itis right. Now and if you've

512
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: been decorated as The Ohio state middle, linebacker THE mvp

513
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: of The national title, game To danny's, point there might

514
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: be a propensity to feel, like Oh i've. Arrived time

515
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: to get really paid in THE. Nfl and so, yes

516
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 3: that's where it's valuable at The Senior, bowl at the,

517
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: combine where the position coach can actually interact with a

518
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: player and, Realize, okay is he willing to? Learn is

519
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: he capable of? Learning does he feel like he's hit his?

520
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: Ceiling and it's like anything in, business right whatever you

521
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: do for a, living if you're an expert in your,

522
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: field you can pretty much tell right away when you're

523
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: talking to someone else if they have the aptitude to

524
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: excel in your. Field so when the linebacker's coach is

525
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: talking To Cody simon at the, Combine i'm guessing he

526
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: gets a pretty good feel pretty quickly as to whether

527
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: this kid can.

528
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: Stick the final pick On, saturday seventh round, selection Safety

529
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: Keaton crawford out Of nevada a little, undersize but he

530
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: runs a four four one. Forty and here's someone, that,

531
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: yeah he will have to fight for a roster, spot

532
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: but he Might again we kind of it might be

533
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: a little bit hyperbole here In, april but as far

534
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: as call players coming into THE nfl drafted On day,

535
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: three you got to make your mark on special. Teams

536
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: not a lot of college players who hear their name

537
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: called have a lot of special teams. Experience As mani

538
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: mentioned On, saturday those type of players graduate from special.

539
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Teams but here's someone In Keaton crawford who excels on special,

540
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: teams has a love heyce passion for that side of

541
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: the ball to WHERE i could certainly see a role

542
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: on game day and a spot on the fifty three

543
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: man roster for someone who didn't hear their name called

544
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: until the seventh round because they excel in on fourth.

545
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 4: Down crawford still saw the field only one year as

546
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: a starter In, nevada but he played in every game

547
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: the last three, years even when he was At texas

548
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 4: last season seventy six, tackles three of those for, lost two,

549
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 4: interceptions one of them returned for a. Touchdown he's got.

550
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: Speed his four four one was the third fastest amongst

551
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 4: safeties at the. Combine.

552
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: Wow, Nice and he had a forty one and a

553
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: half vertical, right so he has, athleticism he has the.

554
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: Traits right when you get down to round, seven you're, Like,

555
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: okay we got to find people who have the, measurables,

556
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: right someone who has upside has things you can't, teach

557
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: like the speed and the. Vertical and then to your,

558
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: Point danny really experienced a special. Team so what are the?

559
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: Odds you, Know Jeff rodgers sort of came into the war.

560
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: Room hey, guys hey, guys you know you Know drew

561
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: got shut out pretty. Much, well, no you did get

562
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: him an offensive linean ib was getting me someone at

563
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: the very, end and then, boom There's Keaton. Crawford and

564
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: it's interesting, too because his first four years At texas

565
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: he competed against the best of the, best not only

566
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 3: you know in the sec The big, twelve but in

567
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 3: practice and he only had four, Starts So i'm guessing

568
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: he felt, like you know, what my last, YEAR i

569
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: need playing, TIME i need a platform to show my.

570
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Skills and then he had a really good year In,

571
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: Nevada boom got himself.

572
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Drafted, yeah that's exactly transferring to kind of get on

573
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: the field a little bit. More but over a thousand

574
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: snaps on special. TEAMS i, MEAN i don't know many

575
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: college players again who get, drafted have that kind of

576
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: a resume coming into the league knowing that in order

577
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: to get on the, field you're gonna have to play

578
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: special teams before you play anywhere.

579
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: Else, absolutely and that's something that is easy to tell

580
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: on tape whether or not you have that pride and that,

581
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: passion because not every player will play with that on special.

582
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: Teams and so if you can go out there and

583
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: you can give it your, all it shows very clearly

584
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: on special, teams and that is what coaches want to,

585
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: see is that even though you might not be making

586
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: the star play on offense or, defense you're going out

587
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: there and doing what it takes for your team to

588
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: be competitive and.

589
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: Win and there's one other thing That Denzel burke the

590
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: fifth rounder And Keaton crawford the seventh, rounder have in,

591
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: common and that's fierce, tacklers run. Support that's considered a

592
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: strength for both. Guys and you know, what if you

593
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: want to play FOR, jg you better you better. Tackle

594
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: and so they went on and Got rabbit last. Year

595
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: he has a lot of those same, traits, right four

596
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: four ish, forty incredible vert but, man he was seek

597
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: and Destroy rabbit his rookie. Year when he got a,

598
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: chance he would light you. Up and so these two

599
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: dbs have a similar, mentality and you can see the

600
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: sort of style of safety The cardinals. Target it's much

601
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: like A Buddha baker And Jalen. Thompson that's the Kind

602
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: they're not going for the six to three s long athletics.

603
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: Safety they're not going for that sort Of Kyle hamilton.

604
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: Type they're going for the more, versatile interchangeable. Safety they

605
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: can play in and out of the box and move

606
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: all over a. Defense so you.

607
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Look at the seven player draft class here in twenty

608
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: twenty five year three FOR, Gm Monty Austin, Ford Walter,

609
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: nolan the, Third Will, Johnson Jordan, Birch Cody, Simon Denzel,

610
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Burke Hayden, cronner And Keaton. Crawford six defensive players with

611
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: the one exception offensive Lineman Hayden. Connor and the question

612
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: was asked to many about the fact that it's basically a.

613
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Runback we're gonna bring everyone back on the offensive side

614
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: of the, ball And mon he, said, NO i expect a.

615
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Jump there are guys that were injured last season coming,

616
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: back and he basically ran through the entire wide receiver

617
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: room as far as that room's not been touched at

618
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: all from a year, ago and guys going into a

619
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: second year or a third, year and the jump at

620
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: that side of the ball is expected to make coming

621
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty.

622
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: Five, look a year, ago you used the number four

623
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: pick overall and a. Receiver so all these mock drafts

624
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: and by the, way the QUESTION i really wanted to ASK,

625
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: mani but the day was, long the press conference is getting,

626
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: long And i'm not SURE i would have gotten. IT

627
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: i wanted to sort of mess with them a little

628
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: bit and, say, so can you tell us now in

629
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: hindsight when you needed a good, laugh did you pick

630
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: up a mock, draft because that's what it really looks

631
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: like how many mock drafts had receiver going to The?

632
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: Cardinals too? Many, Yes and so once again To greig's

633
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: point over, here you, Know Marvin Harrison junior went number four,

634
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: overall you brought Back Zay. Jones you just re Signed Greg,

635
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: dortch who was used much more in those last two.

636
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: Games maybe The cardinals stumbled upon something that they're sort of.

637
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: Like we brought Up sean McVeigh giving two to two

638
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: out well million, dollars what four touchdown catches in four?

639
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: Years And sean mcgay, said, no that's on. ME i

640
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: got to figure out a way to get more out

641
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: of two to two out. Well, WELL i wouldn't be

642
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: surprised if The cardinals are looking at themselves as a

643
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: coaching stat of saying we got to get more out

644
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: Of Greg dortch in terms of. Production Michael, WILSON i

645
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: think we all saw last week when he met the.

646
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: Media he's got a certain look in his. Eye he

647
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: wants to be a lot more, productive at least in

648
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: the box. Score you, know give me the, ball give

649
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 3: me some more. Targets so, obviously based on the off

650
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: season to, date they feel pretty comfortable with the wide

651
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: receiver room roster as we.

652
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Sit here right now stands at eighty. Six that does

653
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: Include Bernard's, Psychovitz so really you can add as many

654
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: as five to get to that ninety man. Limit you

655
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: can go, more but then you'd have to subtract someone

656
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: on your. Roster and, yeah there'll be some undrafted free

657
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: agents that get. Signed now the question Is danny as

658
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: far as what positions those might be. TARGETED moni did

659
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: hints at offensive line certainly makes. Sense but if there

660
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: are no running backs or no wide receivers or, ends

661
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: then you can just go in and, say, right these are,

662
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: guys which are our guys from last. Season figure it

663
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: out for.

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Speaker 4: NOW i, mean you got to, remember we're going to

665
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: get to training camp and cuts are going to start,

666
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: happening and so there's going to be a wave of

667
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: players that are going to become available that The cardinals

668
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: might have been interested. In they just couldn't get their

669
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: hands on them quickly. Enough so there's no stress or.

670
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: Worry if you feel like The cardinals absolutely need help

671
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: at wide receiver and one of the few undrafted rookie

672
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: free agents that they sign is not a wide. RECEIVER i,

673
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: mean things can change drastically in the next couple of.

674
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: Months but it will be interesting to see who they've

675
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: had their eye on and who did not get, drafted

676
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: and what positions and players they're targeting right.

677
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: Now you, know in a year, ago they sort of

678
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: changed their philosophy a because they had a twelve player

679
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: rookie class draft class and they really went quality over

680
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: quantity instead of signing you, know ten or twelve different

681
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: different undrafted. Guys they sort of took that pool of,

682
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: money they gave a little more money to fewer, guys

683
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: tried to target you, know more highly sought after type

684
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: undrafted free. Agents but they've been they've been successful in finding,

685
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: guys you, know whether It's Darling, Thomas Elijah, Higgins amri De.

686
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: Mercado SO i am curious to see what they're able

687
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: to pull off the street and what position groups those come.

688
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: Into so we're feeling pretty.

689
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: Good, tired but.

690
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Good all, Right, well here's my gift Since paul brought the,

691
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: hat this is my gift to the two of. You oh,

692
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: boy Take sunday off see On monday. Mornings, really by.

693
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: The power not vested in, you how generous you can

694
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Speaker 3: Take sunday.

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Off, okay all, right it's a good day to, rest isn't, That.

696
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: Paul you didn't ask the press conference and we were

697
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: talking about.

698
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: Linebackers, yeah well it was asked by someone and.

699
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: You needn't wait TILL i training.

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00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: Camp, yeah it. Was it was a non answer to the,

701
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: question and SO i sort of got a lot of

702
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: non answers to some. Questions, figured, WELL i could ask

703
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: that in a different, way But I'm i'll get the

704
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 3: same non. Answer but, yeah that's to be. Determined, also

705
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: the head coach wasn't out. There if the head coach

706
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: was out, there really it's more his domain really the depth,

707
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: Chart so we'll, see we'll. See all you know is

708
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: what we talked about after round two is when you

709
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: go into day, three you try and target maybe some

710
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: of the bigger, programs the blue, bloods and you try

711
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: and find guys who were four and five star recruits

712
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: who went Into Ohio state And, texas In michigan And.

713
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: Georgia AND i think that's a really good philosophy and

714
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: you definitely saw The cardinals follow that on day. Three this,

715
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Year let's go into the best of the. Best see

716
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 3: who started was able to earn a starting spot for, two,

717
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: three four seasons in a. Row there's got to be

718
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: something about that guy that's going to be worth a round,

719
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Speaker 3: six round, five you, know round seven. Pick AND i

720
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: think you see that in how The cardinals finished up this.

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: Draft seven New Arizona cardinals. Players for more information on

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00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: each of the seven and the draft class as a,

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Speaker 1: Whole azycardinals dot. Com and we'll get more and more

724
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: knowledge about these new players in the coming days and

725
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: weeks to. Come got rookie mini camp just right around the.

726
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Corner but until, then how about we put a lid

727
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: on this edition Of cardinals cover to lid here.

728
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: As it's like the big, hat you, know the big

729
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: hat the fans have, here we go.

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Speaker 1: It, uh that's doesn't, Fit, Paul it really doesn't, fit.

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Speaker 3: You, Said, Craig let's go put a lid on. It,

732
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Speaker 3: no don't do, that don't do. That cut.

733
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Speaker 1: It, no we're off air special thanks to everyone out

734
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: there and and and the shows that. Special thanks to

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00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: everyone behind the. Scenes our executive Producer Jim, are our

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Speaker 1: associate Producer Cody. Fincher special thanks To Alex greenberg as.

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Speaker 1: Well this entire draft run For Danny Surret Paul, Calvc I'm. Craig,

738
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Speaker 1: really we will talk to you next time here On

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Speaker 1: Cardinals cover.

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Speaker 3: Two