1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,120 Speaker 1: Ah. 2 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. 3 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Well that. 4 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Not heard. 5 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 4: The door? 6 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 5: I got the joint jumping trip. 7 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Protect stop said, what's a good ga? 8 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 6: What a play by the defensive cabinets? 9 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: Timbo? 10 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: Here we go? Are you kidding me? Come? Come in? 11 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 5: How he's gonna take it and run? 12 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 7: Where the capital fo. 13 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: Time? 14 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 5: All right, welcome in to a special edition of One 15 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 5: Bill's Live here at the Key Bang Center downtown Buffalo. 16 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 5: And sitting between myself and Steve Tasker, is Martin be wrong? 17 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 8: Uh? 18 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: As we get set for Bill's Night here at the arena? 19 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm happy that you guys are here. It's fun 20 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 6: energy when you guys are in. 21 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: The building and energy. 22 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 7: This place is an ice house, it will actually get older. 23 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: I got my coat out and I'm not taking it off. 24 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 7: Does Tamboni's are on the ice or the ice surfacers 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 7: are on the ice and when they leave. 26 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Hold on, I gotta stop you right there. 27 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 5: They only accept ice surfacers as they're title Now I 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: thinks we are. 29 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, and Bony's a cool name coming out. Those are Olympias. 30 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 5: There's another company I got yes, yes, sorry I interrupted. 31 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 6: But when they leave the ice the temperature will drop 32 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 6: probably fifteen degrees in this place, so you guys are 33 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 6: in for a good two hours. 34 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: I'm glad I have my coat on them. Yeah. Put 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: that was that was a that was an executive decision, 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: and it proved to be a bunch of those fish towels. 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: And put those on my shoulders, and. 38 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 5: I was gonna wear mine as a kerchief. I got 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 5: no coverage up top. 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 7: I need a hat, save, I did say, and sabers like, 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 7: this is the perfect golf towel. 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 7: Here, it's not too long. 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: Out of the right stuff too. Yeah, that's nice. I 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: can I'll yeah, I'll be like it, saber to. It's 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: got a Bills jersey on. That's kind of cool, and. 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 7: It's Josh's jersey. We don't know that it's seventeen, but it's. 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: You can deduce that. I'm coming on the I'm coming 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: on the pre game tonight. I guess you with you 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: and you're gonna be somewhere. You're gonna be over the thing. 51 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 7: I'll be at the casino. I'd be at Buffalo Creek 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 7: Casino with the alumni. 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be here for a minute with me and Duffer. 54 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: You can take the whole pregame if you want joy 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: to spot once again, I go to a pregame and 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: I can't drink because I gotta be on the air. 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 7: That is a that is an issue. 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: I find issue. 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 6: But and I know we're gonna talk bills or whatnot, 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 6: but I gotta ask you, guys, because I never know 61 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 6: if we're wearing black and red or blue and gold. 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 6: I gotta start writing it on my calendar. So today 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I've remember wearing my black and. 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 7: Red stuff and we're not. 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: We're wearing blue and gold. 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 7: But what do you guys like? 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: Best do you like? 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 6: I'm I'm a sucker for the blue and gold because 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 6: how I got drafted in. But the black and red 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: is getting a lot of buzz. 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I understand because those kids that remember the black 72 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 5: and red uniforms from the nineties, when you guys had 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 5: a fair amount of success, I mean, sometimes the most 74 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 5: recent success in whatever jersey. These they were sometimes carry 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: the day for fans because they remember the team being 76 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: successful in those uniforms, and I think that's part of it. 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: I think that's part of the reason they're so appealing. 78 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm with you. Marty. I'm kind of partial 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: to the Blue and Gold. 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 5: I don't think there Look, there are other teams out 81 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 5: there that wear blue and yellow, but it doesn't look 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: the same as the Gold. It's not, and I just 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: think it's different and it's I just think it's really cool, 84 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 5: super classic, and I'm that appeals to me. I mean, 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: I I grew up on Long Island as an Islanders 86 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: fan as a kid, and then they went off the 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: rails with that uniform with the Gordon's fishermen and everything else. 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 7: Did you have to wear the Gordon was there that year? 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 6: They had the fishermen and at the start of the 90 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 6: year they went with it, and the outrage from the fans, 91 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 6: they went away from it. 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 6: But when I went when I played for Long Island 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 6: with the Islanders, we had the dark blue. 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: And which I could tolerate. 96 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 6: These were the original one, and then they went back there. 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: The original was way better. The Billy Smith and Denny Podvan, 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 6: those guys, Mike Bossy like, that's what you want, and 99 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 6: here in Buffalo is the same thing. 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 101 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 7: I watched the Blue and Goal. 102 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 6: And I think of I mean, Danny Gehre and Joe 103 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 6: bart Pero, and those guys so and a little bit 104 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 6: of a hashek, though a lot of people remember a 105 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 6: hasheck in. 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: The black and red. Yeah, I'm looking up. I have 107 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: no idea what you're talking about with this Horton fisherman. Guy, 108 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Horton's fisherman. 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, And basically, think of a long shoreman with a hat, 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 5: a fisherman's hat on and a stick in his hand 111 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: and a. 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: Big white beard. And that's what it was. And look, 113 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: I get it. 114 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: You're you're on the island. You're trying to do the 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 5: maritime thing, and that whole thing. 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: I got it. 117 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: They just went too far in that direction where it's like, 118 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: is this a hockey team or are they selling fish sticks? 119 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: Like you didn't know the difference. 120 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 6: Now, it wasn't good and it didn't last that long 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 6: and it may not even be on the internet anymore. 122 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 5: Scrub scrub, scrub, come on ahead, like an aquamarine color 123 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: mixed in. H. Well, that's the thing that's so appealing 124 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: about the original Islander's logo is they actually have Long 125 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: Island in the logo, the actual map of the island. 126 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 6: So I can tell you where the building is and 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 6: where the rink is because I lived on Long Island 128 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: and I spent enough time on those roads stuck in 129 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 6: traffic that I was looking at the maps to try 130 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 6: to find alternate routes. 131 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know exactly off far West and where about 132 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 7: that logo? 133 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: You've been right, So you've been in Buffalo for long enough. 134 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Now what do you think about like the Bills? Like 135 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: red helmet, white helmet, charging buffalo, standing buffalo. 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 7: I love the charging buffalo. I think that's great. 137 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: Although the white helmet with the charging buffaloes was big 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: when they brought it back huge. 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 7: I definitely like that. I think we have one at 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 7: the studio at one Bill's lot. 141 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 6: There's one Bills right, there's one there, But on my 142 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: set at home, my zoom work from home virtually. Like 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 6: I said, I have a red Bill's Helmets by Eric 144 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 6: Molts and so I remember Doug Floodie. 145 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 7: Eric molds peerless price like Deurman Thomas. 146 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 6: My first ever Bills game was the game that at 147 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 6: the end of the game, the Bills need a touchdown 148 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: and Doug Fludie goes to his right to give the 149 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 6: ball to Thurman went the other way and likes it 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 6: in It was a busted play. But but so to me, 151 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: that was like the red helmet and it was fantastic. 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm well, he's gonna be partial reasons. I'll say 153 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: this though, I'm the white helmets and the jersey combinations 154 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: they have today. Pop. Yes, I mean whites, the all whites. 155 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: Really the Stormtrooper look when they go with the white, 156 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: white pants white. 157 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 7: Now, let me ask this because I have this discussion. 158 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 6: Like I'm a Bills fan, and I was since I 159 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 6: came to Buffalo and Rochester nineteen ninety seven and my 160 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 6: first year in Buffalo the Sabers full time was ninety nine. 161 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 7: I remember going to games, I got season tickets. 162 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 6: It was awesome. But we have these discussions with my 163 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 6: kids because now they're full into it. Like when Deep 164 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 6: picked the uniforms, does it make a difference because I 165 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 6: never had to deal with dad with hockey, it's either 166 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 6: blue or white or whatnot. But like as Josh Allen 167 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 6: the quarterback looking at his receivers if they're wearing red 168 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: helmets or white. 169 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: Helmets too, there is something in that too, because I've 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: I've there was a couple of times when they first 171 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: started to come out with alternate helmets, like their third jersey. 172 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: Now teams can wear like once a year or whatever. 173 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: I was doing sidelines, and I know for I know, 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: without even talking to the players. It early in the game, 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: particularly if the team is wearing an alternate colored jersey 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: for the first time or whatever, and they don't they 177 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to practice in it or whatever. 178 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: But the visual cues the quarterback goes back, and the 179 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: visual cues he's looking for are different. Yeah, and it 180 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: takes them maybe, you know, like a series say okay, now, 181 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: oh well wait a minute, okay, yeah, all right, this 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: is gonna look different. I've seen that happen early in 183 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: games where quarterback drops back in the visual cues are different. 184 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: You can just tell he's like, it's not the same. 185 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 6: Seeing hockey, the socks are the visual cue because a 186 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: lot of time you're looking down at dice and you're 187 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 6: looking at the white socks or colored socks or like 188 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 6: a goalie, right, you're looking at the bottom half. And 189 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 6: that was always the thing, like you looked at basically 190 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 6: one color white or and away or home color. Now 191 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 6: a blue or red or whatever. 192 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 5: There's three teams in the a f C East all 193 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: have white helmets. Dolphins Jets and Bills. The Patriots the 194 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 5: only ones that have something a little. 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Bit green now, though, aren't they They go back. You're 196 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: right about that. They just did that this year. 197 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 6: That's I got that Aaron Rodgers walking on the tunnel, 198 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 6: I'll t with the green helmet. 199 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: And that didn't go well. When when Jim Kelly came 200 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: to Buffalo, he I remember he's color blind, is he really? 201 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: And the red and g with the red Bill's helmet 202 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: the green Jets helmet didn't look all that dissimilar. Yeah, 203 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: And it was a it was a thing. Somebody came 204 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: in and was wearing red shoes or whatever. He couldn't 205 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: tell they were red shoes. They looked green to hear, 206 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: whatever it was. And so, and that's why back in 207 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: the day they switched from white helmets to red helmets 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: to get away from the Jets white helmet in the 209 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: Miami white helmets, so they could discern them in the game. 210 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 6: Well, I will say this, I had a goalie partner 211 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 6: that was color blind, and he didn't tell the coaches 212 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 6: in trading camp and we played red against green and 213 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: he had no idea who was on his. 214 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 7: Team, and he had a terrible game. And felt really bad. 215 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 6: And after the game, like the discrimmage, I'm talking to 216 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 6: him and I'm like you okay, and he goes, I 217 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 6: gotta go talk to coach. I'm like, well, you may 218 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 6: want to wait, like you know, I'll tell you, like 219 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 6: let it go. He goes, No, I gotta go tell 220 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 6: the coach. 221 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 7: Talk to coach. I'm color blind. I had no idea 222 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 7: who was on my team and who wasn't on my team. 223 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 7: And it's a real like the thing, it's you gotta 224 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 7: be I didn't know about Jim. 225 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 6: The fact that that he had to struggle with green 226 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 6: and red, that's incredible. But anyway, so what like have 227 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 6: you when the season ends? When the bill season ends, 228 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 6: you guys gonna continue in football or do you. 229 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 7: Get to relax and watch a little hotey. 230 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 2: Well we had to get over it and then we 231 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: were last week. We spent the entire week in Indianapolis. 232 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 7: It's a twelve months of a year business. There is 233 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 7: for us too, but not in the same way. 234 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, your season lasts longer. Your season is get you 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 5: get a break when you get to June. Right, it's 236 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 5: pretty much June to August. 237 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: That's about it. 238 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 6: July first is Free Agent Frenzy. Oh and that's also 239 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 6: Canada Day. But most insiders in Canada, especially on July second, 240 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 6: they send pictures on social media of their cottage and 241 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 6: the lake, and then they take July two all the 242 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 6: way until September first. 243 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 7: Basically take July. 244 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 6: And August off and that's you know, but you get 245 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 6: development camp and all of that. But that's usually you 246 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 6: get a good two months of a little bit. 247 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 248 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 5: We we just have so many ten pole events through 249 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: the off season, free combine, free agency, draftft and then 250 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: by that time the players are back in May for. 251 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: Sister Jersey here the Island's yeah, that's the one. Yes, Yeah, 252 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: that's Hills. 253 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 5: Should all be burned, every last one of them until 254 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: there aren't any more on the face of yeah, there's 255 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: too much going on. 256 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 7: There were you in Long Allen when they won their 257 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 7: their four straight Cups. 258 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: I was eight, nine, ten and eleven. It was awesome. 259 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: No wonder who was your favorite player. I was a 260 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: big Johnson Elly fan. My dad loved Brian Trocchier. Kenny 261 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: Morrow was probably my favorite defenseman just because he was 262 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: on the eighty Olympic team, and then he came right 263 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: to the Islanders, and. 264 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 7: The guy wins the Kenny Morrow wins, wins the Gold Americ. 265 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 6: On ice, and then he joins the Islanders and they 266 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 6: win four Cups in a row. 267 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: That's how he started his pro career. Not bad. How 268 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: does that happen? 269 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's what we had Mike Ramsey here in Buffalo. 270 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 6: He went from the eighties Olympic team and then. 271 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: To the best. 272 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was on the team also. But I will 273 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: tell you this, I tell Steve this all the time. 274 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody, for the for as long as 275 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 5: hockey's around, will ever top the Islanders record of nineteen 276 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 5: consecutive playoff series one. Yeah, that is an untouchable because 277 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 5: they went all the way back to the fifth Cup 278 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 5: finals and then finally lost to the Oilers in five games. Yeah, 279 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: that's nineteen straight playoffs season. 280 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 2: And that's yeah, this is not like nineteen playoff games. 281 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: That's nineteen series, just like fifty games. 282 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 7: And I don't know if they were all best of seven, 283 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 7: because there used to be no. 284 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 6: Like you won four four, four, sixteen and then you 285 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 6: end up going back to the finals, played the Oilers, 286 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 6: which you had beaten the year before, and enforcer game, 287 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 6: and that's the. 288 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 7: Story, right. So Steve, obviously you would story the Gretzky story. 289 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 6: So the way the hallway in Long Island was is 290 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 6: the visiting room and the home team were sharing the 291 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 6: same hallway. They used to put a cage in between 292 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 6: a door so that they wouldn't fight. But you know, 293 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 6: Game four happens in nineteen eighty three and. 294 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 5: The Oilers were the highest scoring team in the league. 295 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 5: I mean it was in secrets records. 296 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 6: So they have to walk by the Islands Islanders' locker 297 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 6: room to leave, right, they just lost the cup. 298 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: They're disappointed they lost, and thet they got swept. 299 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: So Wayne Retzky walks by the Islanders locker room and 300 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: he thinks that they're going to be celebrating music and 301 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 6: champagne popping or whatever. 302 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 7: And he looked in and they're. 303 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 6: Also in their exhausted ice bags and he goes, that's 304 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 6: what it takes, right. 305 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 7: So the Islanders went out to win eighty four, eighty five. 306 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Eighty six. 307 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 6: They lost because they had their defenseman scoring his own 308 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 6: goal off of Grand Fewer's legs, and Calgary won eighty six. 309 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: The ed Mintnoda's went a eighty eight and ninety they 310 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: won five and seven years after seeing what it takes. 311 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: I've heard that. I had heard that, and that's that's 312 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: a real thing. When you get into you get even 313 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: we're talking about these young players coming in the NFL 314 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: and teams that are just just shy of them, you know, 315 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: the cuss and even the Bills, where that you think 316 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: that there's some sort of magic elicksir, that there are 317 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: one player away. It's really gonna help you, it's gonna 318 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: change things. My the Bills have been good enough to 319 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: go to and win the Super Bowl for five years 320 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty and for whatever. And it's it's a 321 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: hard game to win. It's a hard game to get to, 322 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: let alone win. And it's never one thing that gets 323 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: you around the corner of that. It's sometimes in like 324 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: the Gretzky story where it's like, yeah, oh my god, 325 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: we well that the realization that you've got to play 326 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: like that only opens the door. So all the things 327 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: you gotta do with that. You gotta get to win 328 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: the pucks and the win the battle and the pucks. 329 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta hurt, You gotta put yourself through 330 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: some physical discomforts. You gotta do some stuff you're not 331 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: comfortable doing. And that's what you know, everybody you know, 332 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: you see in these championship teams, there's just something in 333 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: there that they just go upstairs. From the neck up. 334 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: It's from the neck up. 335 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 7: I'll tell you this though. 336 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 6: If the Bills are Sabers win a championship in the 337 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: next few years here and I I'm looking at the 338 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: Bills because obviously they're ahead, I will I will not 339 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 6: be sitting on my couch with ice bags. 340 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: I will be partying. I will be popular. I'll give 341 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: you an I I'll give you an idea too. When 342 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: when the Bills got the ANFCY Championship game this week, 343 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: obviously people are starting to think, okay, what if we 344 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl. We got to do a 345 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: we got to start making playing. My family who lives 346 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: in Kansas, and my my nieces, my nephews, my mom 347 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: and dad, my three older brothers, they're all huge Bills fans. 348 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: In fact, they come up and stay for a couple 349 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: of weeks during the season so they can go to 350 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: a couple of games. And I thought, okay, I'm gonna 351 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: get in the data I got. Can you get Super 352 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: Bowl tickets to the game, and can you and I 353 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: it didn't happen to be like two grand didn't happen. 354 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: It didn't happen. They said, no, no, no, no, I 355 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: don't want to go to New Orleans. We're coming to Buffalo. Yeah, 356 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna come to Buffalo and watch the Super Bowl. 357 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: Even if the Bills are in the Super Bowl in 358 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: New Orleans. All my family were coming to Buffalo to 359 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: see the game. They wanted to be here with Bill's mafia. 360 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: And I thought, and that was kind of neat to me, 361 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: mainly because there were four granded ticket But. 362 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 6: It's a lot of money and a lot of phone 363 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 6: calls and favors that you didn't have to call for. 364 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 6: But but you're right, I think the place to be 365 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 6: would be here in Buffalo. Like obviously, if the Sabers 366 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 6: were to win a Sanday Cup, it's summertime, it's end 367 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 6: of June, right mid June, late June, everybody would be 368 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: out exactly this area, Canalside, Chippewa would be crazy. I 369 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 6: just look at the Bills and people would wouldn't worry 370 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 6: about a snowstorm or cold. They'd be outside, they'd be 371 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 6: celebrating for weeks. It would be und I don't know 372 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 6: how you guys would be doing your job. It would 373 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 6: be it would be tough. 374 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd have to we have we'd go on location 375 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: every place, you know, just go do a celebratory show. 376 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: You may have. 377 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 7: You may have to party before the show. 378 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: We've been talking about this too, one of the things 379 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna do, and we should telling this Brownie. We're 380 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: thinking about doing the show up on the top of 381 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: the Bills Store down at the stadium, and the backdrop 382 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: would be the new stadium being built. You don't have 383 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: people watch because we sit there all day. You can 384 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: see the changes in the building every every week. 385 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 6: It's well, we didn't go for like two and a 386 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 6: half weeks because of the four Nations face off. Right, 387 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 6: we had the last game for the Sabers where we're 388 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 6: at Nashville before the four Nations face off, so our 389 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 6: studio is obviously in the practice the field house. So 390 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 6: I went, and then for two and a half weeks 391 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 6: we didn't go until Carolina game just back Tuesday and 392 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 6: or was it Thurs Thursday, and I went. 393 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 7: I couldn't believe how much they got works. You guys 394 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 7: been in walked around. 395 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 5: They got the tour in the fall, and I will 396 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: tell you, and a lot of people have this opinion, 397 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 5: it feels like a big hockey arena. 398 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it's very intimate. 399 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 5: Does not feel like a football stadium at all. You 400 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: stand on one side and the other stands on the 401 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 5: other side feel significantly closer because of the stacked configuration 402 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: than it does in the bowl of It feels like you're. 403 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: Old camera for somebody on the other side of the stadium. 404 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: It's you feel that close. 405 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: So it's I can only imagine how loud it's gonna 406 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 5: be with that kind of a compressed and. 407 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: Stacked when I go. When you go over there, and 408 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: I know everybody, you know, kind of make fun of 409 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: whatever if union. You know, we're guys standing on there 410 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: looking around and you just kind of, you know, putting 411 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: their tongue. There's none of that going on over there. 412 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: You go five hundred guys over there, and it's an 413 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: ant hill. They are all busy, they're doing stuff. They're 414 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: already putting dry wall stuff at one end where they've 415 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: where it's been in close and they're gonna draw and 416 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: they're gonna put the last piece of steel in in 417 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: mid April with cranes. That's called the topping off, right, 418 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: the topping off to have a ceremony and then and 419 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: then it's going to be all the flat screens in 420 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: the seats and all that stuff. 421 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 6: It will be different, right because I mean, right now, 422 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 6: all we have is the experience that you know, Highmark 423 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 6: Stadium and. 424 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 7: The open air. 425 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 6: I remember going to a game, and you guys would 426 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: remember that game. It has to be early two thousands. 427 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 6: The Bills are playing the Dolphins. It's a U snowstorm. 428 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: Ricky Williams first touch took forty yards into the A zone. 429 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 7: And I remember the lost, Yeah, Bills won. 430 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 5: I remember let It Snow game. When Yeah, they started 431 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 5: playing let It Snow. 432 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 6: I couldn't see the fans across the stadium, like you 433 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 6: know you're talking about these fans are so close. Now 434 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 6: you'll be able to play catch. I couldn't see the 435 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: other side of the stadium. The snow was coming in so. 436 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 7: And Peeris Price made us a catch in that game 437 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 7: over his shoulder with the snow coming down. I have 438 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 7: no idea, but it landed right. 439 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: Because this is this is going to be the last 440 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: season in that play, last. 441 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: One we got like ten, well, now one extra home 442 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: game this preseason games as we have nine at home 443 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 5: eight we have two presecon game, one home preseason game usually. 444 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: One when you have there's eleven games left in that place. 445 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: Eleven games and that's it. 446 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: For ten really and then get one preseason at home, 447 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: one preseason game, nine. 448 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Ten games and that's all playoffs. Well, that's true. Possibly 449 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: that's true. Thing, wouldn't it be nice if it was 450 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: the last game in there was an AFC championship. 451 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 7: I don't know if the Savers are playing the night 452 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 7: before or the day of. I'm calling seconds, I'm not. 453 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. We've already decided that's good, Stuffy. 454 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us here opening second and being so 455 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: welcoming here and your neck of the woods, because you know. 456 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: This is not our territory, it's yours. No but games. 457 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 7: You know where we are actually the TV set just 458 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 7: to our left. 459 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 6: You guys, walk in, come, say hi, love every time 460 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 6: we get to see you guys, and then, uh, you know, 461 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 6: just hockey's a little dangers though, when you're sitting in 462 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 6: the crowd watchbox, like robbery got hit again the other night, 463 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 6: Black guys. 464 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: And the old thing. I heard it too. I gotta 465 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. If I'm on the 466 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: ice and Rob's over there, I'm gonna zing one in 467 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: there every game. Just one, just one, just just yes, 468 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: just sing one in there every game. Have somebody draw straws. 469 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: Whoever gets on that. Okay, at some point you're the 470 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: guy tonight. 471 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 5: Remember when Rick joined him down there one time and 472 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: he had a helmet on. 473 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 6: With a man box was was broken and is like, 474 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 6: I'm not going up there with the stairs. Put me 475 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: in between the benches and he had the helmet and 476 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 6: the roser and that was Yeah, that was funny. You 477 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 6: got to man, you got a razor was at the 478 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 6: top the three hundred level the other night too, so 479 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 6: because he got hit against the Rangers against then, so. 480 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 7: I brought him hot dogs and popcorn. Fans kept Brandham 481 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 7: food he's eating while on the air. 482 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: It was legend. That's the best. 483 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 5: Thanks, have fun on the broadcast tonight. We will take 484 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: a break and kick off the topic of discussion for 485 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 5: you today, which is how would you describe a Buffalo 486 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 5: sports fan? Think about that and join us when we 487 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: come back here on One Bill's Live presented by co 488 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 5: lot of health. 489 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here at the Key. 490 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 5: Bank Center Chris Brown Steve Tasker on a special Bills 491 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: Night edition of One Bill's Live, where we're gonna have 492 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 5: Sabers Sharks here at the arena tonight and it is 493 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 5: Bill's Night. 494 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: This guy's gonna be busy. 495 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: You got a lot of pregame responsibilities, in game responsibilities, No. 496 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, not too many. Yeah. Watch, I have 497 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: the responsibility of watching the game in a suite with 498 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: Tim connolly saying hi, saying hi to some people. Let's 499 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: go sign me up for that response. 500 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: I think I'm in your section tonight. I got a 501 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: couple of tickets, right, I think I'm in your section. 502 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: I I got some pretty good seats. Nice, very nice. 503 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: So that'll be good. We are behind schedule here. 504 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 5: We got to go to around the NFL, which is 505 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 5: brought to you by Kalida Healthy, official Healthcare System of 506 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills and the Jets are cutting wide receiver 507 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: DeVante Adams. As expected, they were trying to find a 508 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 5: trade partner, but nobody was going to take on his 509 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: thirty six million dollar salary, so they are going to 510 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 5: clip the three time All Pro from their roster. That 511 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: will free up thirty million in cap space. They've also 512 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: given permission to fellow receiver Alan Lazard to seek a 513 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: trade before the start of the new league year on 514 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 5: March twelfth. Lazard, I think is gonna be difficult to 515 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: trade as well. He's due to make eleven million in 516 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: base pay respectively. Not guaranteed, but he's probably gonna get 517 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: released too before we get to March twelve. 518 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: I don't see anybody if they know. 519 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 5: If a team knows they're gonna release these guys anyway, 520 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 5: why are you gonna start talking turkey? 521 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only reason you do it is if you 522 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: really love the guy and he's. 523 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: Affordable and you don't want to compete for it. 524 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: And you don't want to compete, that's the thing. You 525 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: don't want him to give free agents and the Jacks 526 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: the price up. But yeah, so i'm do you think 527 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: do you think the Jets gonna tear it down? 528 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: I don't think they'll tear down the defense, but the 529 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 5: offense is gonna undergo some change. I was talking to 530 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 5: our good friend Eric Allen, who works for New York 531 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: Jets dot Com, when we're at the combine last week, 532 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: and he's of the opinion that the offense is gonna 533 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: change considerably. They may go heavy two tight end sets 534 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 5: going forward, so there's gonna be some change there at 535 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 5: the tight end position for them. And he thinks that 536 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 5: they're gonna have a greater commitment to running the football, 537 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: provided they make the necessary investments on their offensive line, 538 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 5: because they got to redo that again because what they got. 539 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: They got old in decredit offensive lineman to start last. 540 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: Year and it didn't work. Yeah, that's not yeah, and 541 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: it's not a good year in the draft for offensive tackles. 542 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: You got to do it. I'm telling you. You got 543 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: to do it the way the Bills do it. Get 544 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: the best players you can, no matter what position they are, 545 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: and then build your team. You got good players at 546 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: all these positions. You couldn't find this guy or that guy, 547 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: but you got everybody else is pretty good. You can 548 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: make it work. You can't decide in February that you're 549 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: gonna go two tight ends all year. You know, go 550 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: out and get some guys, find out what you've got 551 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: and get a recipe for winning first and it starts 552 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: at quarterback. Of course, what they're gonna do there who knows, 553 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: But you got to go and find those guys. And 554 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: that's how you do it. You don't you don't have 555 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: a philosophy, and then go fulfill the philosophy. Your philosophy 556 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: should be get the best players you can and let 557 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: them play well in your you know, build a system 558 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: that they can play well in. That's it. You're gonna 559 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: win games doing that. That's that's what the Bills have done. 560 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: And certainly it's easy when you got Josh and you know, 561 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: and the crew that they've got, but that it looks 562 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: easy because they let these guys do what they do well, 563 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: and so you get you know, if you're gonna decide 564 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: in February, what you know your philosph you know, you 565 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: know here your quarterback's gonna be what are you doing? 566 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Rams are gonna make a trade that becomes 567 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 5: effective March twelfth. They're sending veteran offensive lineman Jonah Jackson 568 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 5: to the Bears in exchange for a sixth round pick 569 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 5: this year. The trade, as we said, can't be official 570 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 5: until the start of the new league here, but that 571 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 5: will be happening in well eight days. The Cowboys won't 572 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: be letting Osa Diggyiezuwa hit free agency. Dallas is resigning 573 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 5: the defensive tackle to a four year, eighty million dollar contract. 574 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: That's according to NFL Network. 575 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 5: The deal includes fifty eight million dollars guarantee. Well, diggi Zoo. 576 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: He had a good season. He's been a reliable interior 577 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 5: defender for them. And knowing a player like DeMarcus Lawrence, 578 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 5: their veteran defensive end is coming off of their books 579 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 5: as a free agent and probably is not going to 580 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: be back at age thirty three, it freed up some 581 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: money to get you know, your twenty six year old 582 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 5: penetrating defensive tackle resigned. 583 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: So there it is. 584 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty eight million guaranteed, four years, eighty million. I 585 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 5: mean he's twenty million dollar. 586 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: A year DT. That's a big number. But you know, 587 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: we we've come to this conclusion and at this point 588 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: in history, the big guys are where it's at. You 589 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: gotta have them. You got to find them, and you 590 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: got to you got to get them lined up, and 591 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: you got to have them play. You got them tied up, 592 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: and you got to get them motivated. It's too easy 593 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: to turn it off down inside, where you can just 594 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: be a guy down in there, and you know, you 595 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: get and sign a guy to a guaranteed fifty eight million, 596 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: you're going to test his motivation. 597 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 5: Yes, the Minnesota Vikings here on franchise tag deadline Day, 598 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: are not expected to put the tag on quarterback Sam 599 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 5: Donald ahead of the four pm deadline today. Minnesota is 600 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 5: still interested in working to re sign Darnald, but they 601 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 5: would like to do so without using the tag. They've 602 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: got eight days before free agency, or actually six before 603 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 5: teams can start calling Sam Donald's people and say, hey, 604 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 5: I know you've been talking to the Vikings, but we're 605 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: gonna throw this much money at you. You want to 606 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: come play for us? 607 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta get it done pretty quickly, now, 608 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: Donald Donald. If I'm Sam Donald, as much as I 609 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: loved it in Minnesota, as much as it's awesome up there, 610 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: and you resurrected your career, which was your journeyman at best, yeah, 611 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: if not an out and out bust, it's great up there, awesome, 612 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: But hitting free agency after the season he just had, 613 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: you can't not do it. You can't not do it 614 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: talking you're talking about quarterback contract, I know, and there's 615 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: teams desperate out there, desperate the Raiders, But. 616 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: You played your Jets. You played your best football under 617 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell. I mean, you looked like a completely different 618 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: You looked like, you know, like a first round pick. 619 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 5: You you looked like a first round pick for the 620 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 5: first time in your career. You finally found a coach 621 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: that knows how to tap into the best of what 622 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 5: you can do. And you're gonna leave that at the 623 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: risk of never playing that way again to get paid. 624 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: And it's not like you're not gonna paid in Minnesota 625 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 5: three years, Like, why why can't he sign a contract 626 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 5: like Baker Mayfield? Baker Mayfield last year, three years, one 627 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: hundred million dollars. I think Darnold could sign for forty 628 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: something a year easy, three years, one hundred and twenty million. 629 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do that because you might get a 630 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: five year, two hundred and fifty million. 631 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, but how much of that money is guaranteed? How 632 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: much of it are you going to see? 633 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out, and plus more of it's gonna 634 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: be guaranteed when you got this other team over here 635 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: that's also in there, going well, we'll pay you this, 636 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: and we'll pay you that and d D Yeah, Sam, 637 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: you gotta hit free at that position, you got to 638 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: hit free. Ask Kirk Cousins how important free agents? I 639 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: just think Cousins made five hundred million dollars doing that 640 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: and and how yeah, and how did he look without 641 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. Rich, That's how he looked. He's not enough money. 642 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 5: He can't spend all the money he has, his kids 643 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: can't spend all the money he has. 644 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: How he's he looked. You were sitting on that one 645 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: where I didn't. That just came to me. Look, I 646 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: get it. 647 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 5: It's not just Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, I know, it's Jordan Addison. 648 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: Jordan's Justin Jefferson. 649 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I don't get it. I get it, 650 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: I get it, But you know you're you're talking about 651 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: even even so, he put together a See they were 652 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: fifteen and what were they fourteen and fourteen, fourteen and three, 653 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: fourteen and three. They put together an unbelievable season and 654 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: they done and then he well, he kind of went 655 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: belly up in the playoffs. There's no guarantees that you're 656 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: gonna did you like, like, we're gonna go, We're gonna 657 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: win a championship. Now the only guarantee is the zeros 658 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: on that deal when they say they're guaranteed, when you 659 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: sign your name, that's the guarantee. And that's what you 660 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: got to do for your family, for your career, for 661 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: your future, your kid's future, your grant, and you know 662 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: for this your grandkid's future. So that's you're talking maybe 663 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: over a dozen million dollars difference. 664 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 6: Right. 665 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 5: He's fifth in the NFL in passing yards this past 666 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: season and fifth in touchdown passes with thirty five. 667 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: A day after it broke that. 668 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: Cornerback Darius Sleigh will be a June first release by 669 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 5: the Eagles. Philadelphia is designating another defensive back for release 670 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 5: after June first. Veteran James Bradbury gonna be trimmed from 671 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: the roster as Philly looks to seek more or cap 672 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: savings come the summer. Bradbury had a season ending achilles 673 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: tendon injury just before the season, so I don't expect 674 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 5: to be there. There'll be a ton of interest there, 675 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: especially he's on the wrong side of thirty and he 676 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 5: is a major achilles injury, and he's he plays in 677 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: the defensive backfield. 678 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: That's that's a tough combination. If he wants to play somewhere. 679 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be up to him. He's not gonna his 680 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: days of big contracts are over. 681 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: You gotta he's gonna have to do a one year 682 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: prove it deal. 683 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was saying if yes, at veteran minimum. Let's 684 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: not to say he can't do it. No, But that's 685 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: probably what he's looking at. This is, you know, how 686 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: bad does he want to play? Really? That's if he 687 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: wants if he comes back and plays in other years, 688 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: because he really wants to play football, and that's and 689 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: tip and tip your hat to him. The interesting thing 690 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: is tough injury. 691 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 5: He's played some more safety here later in his career 692 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: when he started his career as a corner, and so 693 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 5: maybe he just transitioned to full time safety knowing the 694 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: demands of corner and everything are a little bit more intense. 695 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 5: So I'm curious to see what his decision is in 696 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 5: terms of what he considers himself. Now I am a 697 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: safety only, or I'm a versatile chess piece, whatever, But 698 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 5: I can't imagine teams are gonna be breaking down his door. 699 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 5: They'll check the medicals, see how his recovery's going. But 700 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 5: he didn't even play that well when he was healthy 701 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty. 702 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: Three for the Eagles. 703 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 5: That's why they drafted two corners in the next draft, 704 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 5: Quinnon Mitchell and Cooper dejen because of how poorly Bradbury 705 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 5: played the season before. It's sounding more and more like 706 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: the Steelers will lean toward quarterback Justin Fields as their 707 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 5: quarterback going forward fields in Russell Wilson pending free agents. 708 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 5: Feelds obviously on the front side of his career, Wilson 709 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 5: on the backside. And I think we all saw what 710 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 5: the limitations of the Pittsburgh offense were with Wilson in 711 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 5: the lineup. 712 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: Let's not forget there, four and two with Fields before 713 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Russ had the calf injury early and they played for 714 00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: six weeks four and two with Fields and and that's 715 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: that sounds wow, that's pretty good, right, Mike Tomlins still 716 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: pulled the trigger and put rus Wilson in, right, you know, so, 717 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: I there was they were limited with Justin Fields as well, 718 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: but at least they know what they've got in him, right, 719 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: I Mean, that's that's a real He's got to go 720 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: with the youth and athletics because they felt limited with 721 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: Russ as well for different reasons. 722 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 5: Right, so right, yeah, top running answer, top running back 723 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 5: prospect Ashton genty from Boise State. As pre draft thirty 724 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 5: visits scheduled the Chicago Bears in Las Vegas Raiders. 725 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: The Raiders picked sixth, the Bears picked tenth in round one. 726 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: He he is one of the best contact balance runners 727 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: I have seen in twenty years. I saw something this 728 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: too that it didn't happen this last year because boys, 729 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: he didn't need him to do it. But the year 730 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: before he was first in FBS in yards receiving out 731 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: of the back four. 732 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 5: Oh, he's a versatile back, a guy can do. I 733 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 5: think he's gonna be He's got a really good chance 734 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 5: to be the first. 735 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: Guy can do everything. Yeah, so good for him, and 736 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: that's he's going to be an interesting Oh dude, yes, absolutely. 737 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 5: Wide receiver Darius Slayton not expected to return to the 738 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 5: Giants this offseason. He turns twenty eight this summer. He's 739 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 5: been somewhat of a downfield threat for the Giants. He's 740 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 5: averaged fifteen yards of reception for his entire career, been 741 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 5: about a five to seven hundred yard receiver the last 742 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 5: three seasons, and what has amounted to largely a poor offense. 743 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: He ran a four to three to nine at the 744 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 5: combine back in twenty nineteen when he was coming out 745 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 5: in the draft. Are you interested him in him as 746 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 5: a free agent perhaps for the Bills two year coming 747 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 5: off a two year, twelve million dollar contract. He's going 748 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 5: to turn twenty eighth this summer. He's got downfield speed 749 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 5: and his character is a plus. 750 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, you got to talk to him. 751 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: I think he is. Talk to him. 752 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 5: I think he fits the description of that tier two 753 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 5: free agent that Brandon Bean typically takes long looks at 754 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 5: and considers signing. 755 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: And you don't know what the future holds for mac Hollins, right, 756 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: you want to bring a guy in with that kind 757 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: of character to be in the room with Keon. You know, yeah, 758 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay, let's talk to him. 759 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 5: And I think he can fit the description of a 760 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 5: field stretcher. You still think he has that in his 761 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 5: skill set. 762 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, he's not gonna run a four three 763 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: nine after five six years, but he's still gonna have 764 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: that in him. You know that that ability it is, 765 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: you know know what that's supposed to look like. So 766 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: he could help he could help, but does say something 767 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: that the Giants are gonna cut him loose after having 768 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: a bad offensive year all around. So you don't want 769 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: to get rid of good, the good, the guys that 770 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: helped you. And if the Giants are saying goodbye to him, 771 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: I'd like to know the reasons for that, right right, 772 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: if you can find out. 773 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know DeVante Adams is out there. Do 774 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 5: you think he takes a one year deal from anybody? 775 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: What do you? 776 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 5: I mean, he's thirty two. I gotta see when he 777 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 5: turns thirty three. 778 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. There's some teams out there. I could 779 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: see it, because I would consider him here on a 780 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: one year deal, nothing sure, nothing more. Oh sure, if 781 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: you can come here and play for a year, Yeah, 782 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: give it a shot. I think there's going to be 783 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: somebody more like along the lines of an Arizona Cardinals 784 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: who would say, we'll give you a three year deal. 785 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: You know that, you know what I mean? We need 786 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: one of those guys, does opposite Marvin Harrison Junior. Marvin 787 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior's on his rookie contract, that kind of thing. 788 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: Doesn't turn thirty three until Christmas Eve, So yeah, I 789 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: could see something like that. There's certainly going to be 790 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: a market for DeVante Adams. The guy can really play 791 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 2: one year deal. Certainly every team in the league would 792 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: talk to him about his price for a one year 793 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: deal if he's in. 794 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 5: Eighty five catches for over a thousand yards and eight 795 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 5: touchdowns playing for the Raiders and the Jets, Like, yeah, 796 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 5: that's a good player switching mid season and still putting 797 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 5: up that production. I would even sign him to a 798 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 5: two year deal if you needed. 799 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: Me to, wouldn't you. I'd signed him to a Curtis 800 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: Samuel deal for sure. You know, if you get him 801 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: for that. 802 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 5: Two years and sixteen might be a little more than that, 803 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 5: but yeah, maybe not so something to get. I mean, 804 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 5: he's gonna be out there now. 805 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: Well yeah, you're gonna hear all them, but he's gonna 806 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: do very well. Just for what you said. His numbers 807 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 2: and his production are still there. I mean, he's still 808 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: doing at a high level with a team that couldn't 809 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: play offense in Vegas and a quarterback that was a 810 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: shell of him his former self in the Jets with 811 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and DeVante Adams is a commodity. He 812 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 2: is still a commodity at this point of his career. 813 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: Although you don't know where the the endpoint is yet. 814 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: I don't think he's reached it, and who knows what 815 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: it's going to look like when it happens. Yeah, I'm 816 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: absolutely you talk to the guy. 817 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think that's it's gonna be an interesting 818 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 5: market for him. Yes, just by virtue of the fact 819 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 5: that he produced in two places in the same season 820 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 5: with offenses that were less than consistent. Yes, to be 821 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 5: fair and kind quite frankly, topic of discussion for you today, 822 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 5: what is the best way to describe a Buffalo sports fan. 823 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 5: We're melding the two fan bases here, although there's presumably 824 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 5: a ton of overlap. You know, if you're a Bills fan, 825 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 5: I would venture to guess eighty five percent of you 826 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 5: we're also Sabers fans, maybe more. But what is the 827 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 5: best way to describe a Buffalo's sports fan? Get creative 828 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 5: here if you want eight oh three oh five point 829 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 5: fifty one eighty eight, eighty five, fifty two, five fifty 830 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 5: the numbers to jump on board, and we do have open. 831 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: Lines for you right now. 832 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 5: Don't have time to give us a call, Hit us 833 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: up on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. Got 834 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,959 Speaker 5: to take a break here, but taking your phone calls. 835 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 5: Next on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Hell, It's 836 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on a special 837 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 5: Bills Night edition of One Bill's Live. As we're here 838 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 5: at the key Bank Center getting set for Sabers Sharks 839 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 5: in a squish the fish borrowing of a phrase. First, 840 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 5: ten thousand fans get one of these to wave some 841 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 5: rally towels here tonight. A topic of discussion for you 842 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 5: today is how would you best describe a Bills fan 843 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 5: or a Buffalo sports fan? 844 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: How would you best describe a Buffalo sports fan? 845 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 5: And we're taking your calls at eight oh three oh 846 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 5: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five 847 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 5: fifty then. 848 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 2: Number to get on board and Uh. 849 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 5: For me, it's one word loyal because for two organizations 850 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 5: that have had their share of valleys as much as peace, 851 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 5: the loyalty of a Buffalo sports fan I think is 852 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 5: pretty close to being unmatched. Yeah, because through thick and 853 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 5: thin they are there. 854 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can eat. We've talked about it a lots, 855 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 2: particularly after the when the drought ended at the Bill 856 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: and now you talk about it, it's like, wow, So 857 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: it's been since twenty seventeen, Right, it's almost been ten 858 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: years since that drought had think about that's amazing. So 859 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 2: this will be the eighth year since the drought ended, 860 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 2: eighth season, and the fan base during that time literally grew. Yeah, 861 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean they were still selling fifty thousand season tickets. Yeah, 862 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean it was. That's amazing to me and that 863 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 2: and it does speak to the kind of people that 864 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: you know, grow up here and we get a lot 865 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: of this too. People grow up here and they live 866 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: and then they leave and they go out of the places, 867 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: but they remain bills fans. We've got, you know, we've 868 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 2: got a list, We've got like thirty nine states that 869 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: have called the show. We've got people that reach out 870 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 2: to us from every state in the Union, you know, 871 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: almost every state in the Union and every place. So 872 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: it's we know that when you grow up here and 873 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: you kind of grab this fan base and you become 874 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: a fan, it sticks with you and it's you know, 875 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: it means and it's whatever it is to grow up here. Yeah, 876 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: it makes you that kind of person, right, I mean 877 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: it's hard, it's it is hard. To describe, which is 878 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: why we kind of throw it out there, through it 879 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: out here. It's it's fun to think about though, because 880 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: it is. It's fun to be a part of the 881 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: fan base. When you know you got the Bills doing 882 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 2: what they're doing and oh yeah, yeah, you get both 883 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: ends of the spect that's when it's rewarding. Yeah, exactly. 884 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 5: Uh, we're asking you the same question to day oh 885 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 5: three oh five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty fifty. 886 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 5: We're gonna bounce over to the tweet sheet here, brought 887 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 5: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving 888 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 5: company of the Buffalo Bills. And Andrew says, being a 889 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 5: fan of Buffalo sports is never easy. We have our 890 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 5: ups and downs, but we are very passionate about our 891 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 5: teams and we support our teams through thick or thin. 892 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 5: And one thing that we do as fans that not 893 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 5: a lot of other fans do is we support other 894 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 5: teams slash players in their. 895 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: Time of need. Yeah. Bill's Mafia has wholeheartedly done that. 896 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 5: I mean everything from thanking Andy Dalton for helping us 897 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 5: into drought to you know, Lamar Jackson gets a concussion 898 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 5: in a playoff game in Buffalo and they're donating money 899 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 5: to his Backpack for Kids foundation, and they've done that 900 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 5: several times over with a lot of other player causes. 901 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 2: I've that shouldn't never be forgotten. And it's the first 902 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: time I've ever heard of anything like that. Oh, they're 903 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 2: the four runners in that end category. Other teams have, 904 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 2: for feed done a little bit of that here of late. 905 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: But that's really amazing. That's really amazing. I've never seen 906 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: a phenomenon like that in sports before this era of 907 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia, in this era, this version of the Bills, 908 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 2: it's something to guys like you and me that we 909 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 2: can take kind of pride in it when we when 910 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: we do the show and we talk to people and 911 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: we go to the combine and we talk to these 912 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, other guys from other teams and national media 913 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: people and all that there. It does put a different 914 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 2: perspective on what people think about Buffalo in this market 915 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: and this fan base. It's it does change things. It 916 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 2: changes things, and it's kind of it's very cool to. 917 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 5: See, like Mark Andrews drops the ball in the divisional 918 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 5: playoff this year and he's getting death threats from his 919 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 5: own fan base for dropping the ball, Yeah, and the 920 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 5: Bills are Bills fans are making contributions to his charitable 921 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 5: or organization, which I believe was for pediatric diabetes or something, 922 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 5: because he's a diabetic himself. And it's just like, can 923 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 5: you this is what I've always wondered. If you're that 924 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 5: other fan base and you're just killing your own player, Yeah, 925 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 5: they're prolling him. And then you see the opponent's fan 926 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 5: base donating to his charity, don't you think a little 927 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 5: bit less of yourself? 928 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: A little bit? But I think some of them are 929 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: sitting there going, yeah, I see, They're like, yeah, you 930 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: should give him to his charity. He just gave you 931 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: the game kind of thing, right. 932 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 5: But there have been other instances the Lamar Jackson example, 933 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 5: guy gets a concussion, he's knocked out of the game. 934 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: That's different, and Bill's fans are donating. And how about 935 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: the thing where it all started was the Andy Dalton 936 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: thing in Baltimore. That was a game that the Bills 937 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 2: weren't even playing in, right, and he had no other thing. 938 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: He didn't do anything other than we except keep playing 939 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: hard in a game that looked like they were gonna 940 00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 2: lose it. And all of a sudden on a four, 941 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 2: then eight or fourth and whatever that was froze it. Uh, 942 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 2: guy scores a touchdown, Tyler Boyd touchdown, and he had 943 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 2: no reason to think anything was gonna happen, And certainly 944 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: the Bills fans came up and went came up big. Subsequently, 945 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: he came into town that next offseason. Frank Wright gave 946 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: him the Call of Courage Award because Andy's that kind 947 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: of guy and he kind of had got a chance 948 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 2: to come in and say thank you and any appreciation. 949 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: Put a billboard up in town, I believe. I remember 950 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: it was pretty amazing and very cool to see that 951 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 2: that that is quintessentially a Buffalo thing, no question about it. Nelly. 952 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 5: On the tweet, she says, it looks like a fun evening. 953 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 5: I'd love to see the Sabers become strong contenders again 954 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 5: like the Bills did. Let's go Buffalo. At least they 955 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 5: stayed unlike the Braves. Oh yeah, Buffalo Braves. I was 956 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 5: way before my time. I had no idea. 957 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember left in the mid to late seventies, 958 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: right I seven on TV is all I saw them on. 959 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: Ernie Di Gregorio and Bob McAdoo and those guys. Andy Smith, 960 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: that's the only doing reason I have to even remember him. 961 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,919 Speaker 2: I saw him on TV. Yeah. 962 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 5: I actually was in the NBA store in New York 963 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 5: City when I was visiting my daughter and they had 964 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 5: the coolest looking Buffalo braves at so I grabbed it 965 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 5: and I wear it all the time. 966 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 967 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 5: It's got that b you know, with the with the 968 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 5: Native American feather in it and stuff. It's really cool. 969 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 5: Their logo was good. Their team was competitive. They never 970 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 5: got by the Celtics, but their team was competitive. Yeah, 971 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 5: it's a shame. It's a shame that ownership kind of. 972 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: Did what they did. What is that is that? Are 973 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: they Clippers? 974 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 8: Now? 975 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 2: They are the Clippers. 976 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 5: They moved to San Diego, became the San Diego Clippers, 977 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 5: and then the Clippers moved up to LA not too long, 978 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 5: early mid eighties, they moved up to Los Angeles and 979 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,959 Speaker 5: they've been there ever since. Barbara says Buffalo sports fans 980 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 5: are super loyal and fun capital F capital U capital N. 981 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: There is that. 982 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 5: Go to a Bill's tailgate you'll see just how fun 983 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 5: they are. That's but yeah, loyal was my word. 984 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. Barbara couldn't agree more. 985 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 5: Kay on the tweet sheet says this is our year. 986 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,439 Speaker 5: This is our year, and she says it another ten times. 987 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 2: She typed it out. So hey, speaking into existence, k manifested, 988 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 2: I'm totally with you, so let her rip. 989 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 5: I have no problem with that. We are up against 990 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 5: the clock here. We have to take a break now, 991 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 5: but we come back, we're gonna be joined by the 992 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 5: Sabers head coach Lindy Ruff gonna pop on with us 993 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 5: and do something he doesn't normally do, talk football. You'll 994 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 5: do that with us when we return here on One 995 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 5: Bills Live presented by Colida Health. 996 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This is One Bill's Live presented 997 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: by Calida Health. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 998 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 5: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here on Bill's Night at the 999 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 5: Key Bank Center and joining us now Savers head coach 1000 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 5: Lindy Ruh. You're gonna talk more football than you've talked 1001 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 5: all season here right now, because we're talking Bills more 1002 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 5: than we are Savers. I mean, I know you guys 1003 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 5: got a game tonight and everything. 1004 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: But when was the last Bills game you went to? 1005 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 8: I went to a couple of year went to the 1006 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 8: opener in one other game. I love going to the game, 1007 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 8: I don't love driving to the traffic. 1008 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: What about do you have a go to tailgate or 1009 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 2: anything like that? Pre pre game. We've got to keep that. 1010 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: That's what I listen. I know I've got stop. I've 1011 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: got three stops. I make myself that I've kind of 1012 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 2: like three that you're telling us three, just three? And 1013 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 2: then and I was stopped by Kelly's little Winnebago there. 1014 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: You know it's free. He's got his own operation. Well 1015 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 2: here's the problem. And I don't know if you have 1016 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 2: this problem. I can't drink pregame because I do post game, 1017 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 2: so I have to. I can see your work cars. 1018 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: I smoked cigars while I'm doing that, but I can't, 1019 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: you know, have a pop, a celibratory pop or anything. Yeah, 1020 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 2: that that takes the fun out of pregame right there. 1021 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 2: When you can't even have a drink problem, that's kind 1022 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 2: of what pregaming is, right. So you got to get 1023 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: the bowling ball out. You have a little sip, so 1024 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 2: you so you do you do? Okay, I think we 1025 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 2: found out one of the stuffs. So what's your preferred 1026 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 2: bowling ball. I can't say that's good. So you did 1027 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 2: go to the opener? He went to another game? Did 1028 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: you when you were you know, in Jersey and all that, 1029 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 2: did you ever get back here for games or anything? 1030 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: Did you ever know? But I went to the Philly game. 1031 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 2: I drove from Philly with with my son and my 1032 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 2: son and my wife and the game that rained, the entire. 1033 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 8: Overtime loss, the overtime loss where I where I thought 1034 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 8: I actually thought the officiating was terrible, and it was terrible, 1035 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 8: but it was it was a drive. It poured rain 1036 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 8: the whole way there. It poured rain the whole game, 1037 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 8: and then then poured the whole way back. 1038 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 5: I mean it was a fifty nine yard field goal 1039 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 5: and a rain storm. 1040 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: And that's yeah. Yeah, I mean it was an incredible game. 1041 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 8: And you know, the people around me eventually figured out 1042 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 8: that we were tell my son keep it quieting. 1043 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 2: I mean, the Philly fans are right, you don't know 1044 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 2: what to get. You know, we're cheering for both teams, 1045 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: I said, guy, next thing, No, no, ready, cheering for 1046 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 2: both teams. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. 1047 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was just you're you're one hundred percent 1048 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 5: right about the officiating of that game. At halftime, ten 1049 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 5: penalties for Buffalo won for Film. 1050 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I finished thirteen before all right, So you 1051 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 2: go back. You got to, You got a chance to 1052 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 2: be a Bills fan, live away, come back from a thousand, 1053 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: you know, miles away. When you're looking at from a distance, 1054 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 2: did you see does it feel like a fifty nine 1055 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 2: yard game winner in a rainstorm, Hail Murray thirteen seconds 1056 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: Minnesota overtime, coin flake, Minnesota game over? Does it Does 1057 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: it feel like what the heck man? Yeah? I feel 1058 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: like that from a way a long way away, because 1059 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 2: it did here. It does it? Really? Does? You know? 1060 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 8: I think when you're away from here, you get a 1061 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 8: lot of grief for being a Bills fan. Uh you know, 1062 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 8: it took a lot of guff, you know. And I'm 1063 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 8: chirping the Bills all the time, and uh so you know, 1064 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 8: when you lose a game, you hear it from the 1065 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 8: people around where you're going. Sure, today's it's all Bills today, 1066 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 8: so you know, And I'm not afraid to chirp about 1067 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 8: the Bills, you know, And I love it, so I 1068 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 8: have to take it every now and then too. 1069 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 5: We got a we got a theme tonight, which is 1070 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 5: borrowed from the Bills when they play the Dolphins, squish 1071 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 5: the fish, and people always correct us and remind us. 1072 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 5: They remind us that the dolphins are a mammal. You 1073 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 5: actually have a legitimate mascot that's a fish in the 1074 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 5: sharks tonight here, so it seems even more apropos for 1075 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 5: you guys. But they'll be swinging the towels out here 1076 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 5: kind of like we do for the Dolphins game. That's 1077 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 5: pretty pretty interesting that they drew that parallel here tonight. 1078 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 2: Another thing, do you have like I've got we're bills. 1079 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 2: Do you have bills gear? I do have bills. 1080 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 8: What's your bills gear that you go to. I've got 1081 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 8: the camouflage. Uh oh ca, yeah, that's nice. A hoodie 1082 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 8: or jersey or what not, say a polo and then 1083 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 8: I've got the three quarters zip bills. 1084 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 2: Pretty pretty quite as maybe a little bit like this 1085 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 2: right here. You had an eighty nine jersey or anything 1086 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: like that. I'd love an eighty nine jersey if you 1087 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 2: want to get yeah, home or away home, all right, 1088 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 2: you gotta I got red one too, I mean I 1089 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 2: gotta red would be nice. 1090 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 8: I got you know, what if you got me the right, 1091 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 8: that would be my go to on Sundays. I would 1092 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 8: wear my tasker jersey. How's that I'll make see if 1093 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 8: I can make it happen. I'm not going to sign 1094 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 8: it though. 1095 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,959 Speaker 2: That's speaking of uh, speaking of speaking of players both 1096 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 2: former and current. Give me a one, you go back. 1097 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 5: I know you got a lot of things to worry 1098 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 5: about on game night when you're behind the bench, but 1099 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 5: I'm sure there are times and breaks in the action 1100 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 5: where you you have noticed some Bills players taking in 1101 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 5: the game. Dion Dawkins is hard to miss. He likes 1102 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 5: sitting down by the glass and he he's a glass 1103 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 5: banger like a lot. Do you like when you have 1104 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 5: a break in a half a second during a timeout 1105 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 5: or a TV break or whatever. 1106 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 2: Is he noticeable? 1107 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 5: And what's it like seeing Bills players down here? 1108 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? People, Yeah, you know, I think that interaction is awesome. 1109 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 2: You know. 1110 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 8: I think when the sports teams in the city, when 1111 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 8: when the players from different teams, you know, go to 1112 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 8: their venues, you know, and watch games, I think it's special. 1113 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 8: I mean, this is a special place to play. And 1114 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 8: you know, when a football player shows up or football 1115 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 8: players show up in your building to watch. 1116 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 2: It's like our group. 1117 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 8: I can just tell you our group of guys, I think, 1118 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 8: you know, if there's an opportunity to go, they're all in. 1119 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 8: It's like almost every guy from our team is going 1120 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 8: to the Bills game. 1121 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I think it. 1122 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 8: It just shows you what a community and what a 1123 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 8: what a sports city this is, and how you know 1124 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 8: we all cheer for each other. 1125 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's how I got into the Saves way 1126 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 2: back in the day. Can't hold Will Woolford and those 1127 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: guys had season tickets right and the old and they, 1128 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 2: you know, give me the tickets for a day or something. 1129 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: We go to a game. And now a guy from Kansas, Yeah, 1130 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: there was an ice drink in my state when I 1131 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 2: grew up. And now I'm in one O five, I'm 1132 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: a season ticket holder, one O five right up behind, 1133 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm like twelve and fourteen rows right behind your bench, 1134 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: and you know it's you just kind of it's I'll 1135 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: say this though, I really have, like you said, the 1136 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,959 Speaker 2: players come, they come to the Bills games. The Bills 1137 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 2: come here. You really because you appreciate what it takes 1138 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 2: to be at that level. But let me tell you something, 1139 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 2: you feel like you have a second job. If you 1140 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 2: come to every single Savers game, I tip my hat 1141 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: to you guys. That is a grind of a season. 1142 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 2: Eighty two games and you know when you even hit 1143 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 2: every game of a homestand it's like, oh my gosh, 1144 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: here we go. I gotta go back down, and it's 1145 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 2: like having an apartment now. 1146 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 8: No, no, it is true. I mean, like, look, we're 1147 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 8: going to a segment right now. We're going five games, 1148 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 8: eight nights. Yeah, you know, you playing Montreal, you come home, 1149 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 8: you play a game back to back, you're gonna fly 1150 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 8: to more. You play right you play Tampa, you play Florida, 1151 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 8: and then you're flying back and you're you're and you're 1152 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 8: playing right away again. It you know, our sport is 1153 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 8: it is a different beast, It really is, you know, 1154 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 8: and it it I think a lot of times it's 1155 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 8: a it's a grind that you know, some people don't realize. 1156 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 8: You know, when you're getting in, like last night, you 1157 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 8: get in at one thirty. You're not counting on overtime. 1158 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 8: You're not counting on de icing the plane, and you're 1159 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 8: not counting on you got to clear customs. You got 1160 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 8: to get off the plane and the terminal, get back 1161 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 8: on your plane and push across back to the other side. 1162 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 8: And your football guys have pretty well all your all 1163 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 8: your cities in the same country. 1164 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 2: We got to deal with, you know, going over the 1165 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 2: border and coming back. So I mean there's a lot. Yeah, 1166 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 2: and your games are just as intense as a football game. 1167 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 2: But here's the thing with football, we get six days 1168 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 2: to ramp up. You get, like you said, sometimes you 1169 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: get thirty six hours, sometimes you get eighteen hours. Sometimes 1170 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 2: times you get forty eight out you know, it's a 1171 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 2: it's never you can't have a run up of six 1172 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 2: days where you've got a set list of things that 1173 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 2: you got to accomplish. Now you've got to go through customs, 1174 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 2: you got to get on the plane, you got to 1175 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 2: de ice, you got overtime, then you got a bus 1176 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: or travel, then you don't travel, then you're back home. 1177 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 2: It's a helter skelter schedule. I can't even imagine. Yeah, 1178 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: well then and then you got to show up the 1179 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 2: next morning and talk to you guys. High point. 1180 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's good parts of the job. 1181 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 2: Point good point. 1182 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 5: Is there is there somebody on is there somebody on 1183 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 5: staff that because I know, you know, Sean not with 1184 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 5: this athletic training staff, and then they have a sports 1185 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 5: science staff that tries to they even call it prehab 1186 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 5: to keep their their guys' bodies fresh despite a travel schedule. 1187 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 5: I imagine you guys have to help these guys try 1188 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 5: to come up with a cheat code to stay fresh 1189 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 5: through all of that stuff that you're described. 1190 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,479 Speaker 8: I mean they, I mean the phrase you hear most 1191 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 8: often now as rest is a weapon. You know, like 1192 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 8: don't bring them in, don't bring him in this morning, 1193 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 8: let them stay home, let them in and stuff. But 1194 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 8: that's all sports science stuff too. On you know, even 1195 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 8: your practice load, how hard you can practice. You know, 1196 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 8: players have heart rate monitors on, we have speed variables 1197 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 8: that you look at it practice. You know, I got 1198 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 8: all the data and they'll come in and they'll say, 1199 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 8: we got to keep the load down today. I mean 1200 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 8: today can be you know, maybe twenty minutes or twenty 1201 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 8: five minutes. You want to work on some special teams, 1202 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 8: but you can't do the high end competitive stuff where 1203 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 8: you you know, keep the heart rate and a real 1204 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 8: high rate and fatigue them at all because you know 1205 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 8: you're going to be playing the next day. 1206 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: It's amazing too, because the thing that gets forgotten all this, 1207 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 2: some of the guys you've got are like nineteen years old, 1208 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 2: twenty years old. They're not you know, they're not like us, right, right, 1209 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 2: They're not ten year vets, right, some of them. Once 1210 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 2: in a while you get an older guy in there 1211 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 2: that knows. But these guys, you got to kind of 1212 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 2: teach them that they have to learn at what their 1213 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: game day routine needs. And it's different a for a 1214 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 2: nineteen year old than it is for a twenty nine 1215 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 2: year old. 1216 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, Steve, I think that's so important that you know, 1217 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 8: a young player has to develop a routine, and that 1218 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 8: routine can be different from any other player. Right, But 1219 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 8: when you get a routine that that works for you, 1220 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 8: the amount you sleep, the amount you eat, what you eat, 1221 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 8: you know what really works for you, and you can 1222 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 8: stick to that routine from a training sense to you know, 1223 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 8: what you're doing after a game. You know, the big 1224 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 8: part about playing all these games and the five games 1225 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,959 Speaker 8: any nights, because can you can you maintain a level 1226 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 8: of strength, you know, like your physical strength starts to 1227 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 8: go down, you know, and we start measuring that, and 1228 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 8: then how do you get that back up when you 1229 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 8: have no rest, I mean you basically got to rest them, 1230 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 8: try to refresh them. 1231 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 2: And also it seems to me it'd be a great 1232 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 2: way to lose weight, you know, that kind of grind 1233 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 2: that always on the go and the go on the go, 1234 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: and you're trying to get rest here and you're trying 1235 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 2: that kind of help skelter stress. It's it's hard to 1236 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 2: because our guys are real Our guys used to be 1237 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 2: real sensitive about, you know, dropping ten pounds during a 1238 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 2: stretch where you know, you you had so much going on, 1239 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 2: you didn't you didn't have that. 1240 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 8: It's yeah, well, you know, I'm amazed when I've been around, uh, 1241 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 8: you know, the cafeteria of the Bills, I'm amazed how 1242 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 8: much a football player, you know, how much they eat 1243 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 8: I mean hot like blast furnace. Yeah, I mean the 1244 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 8: the NHL is I mean, it's coined NHL stands for 1245 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 8: never Hungry League because there's food everywhere too, you know, 1246 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 8: from postgame pizza in the room to the airplane food. 1247 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 8: You know, you get here in the morning, you got breakfast, 1248 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 8: you got lunch, you got snack, you got you know, 1249 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 8: so that parts the saying and players you know, we're 1250 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 8: trying to keep them away from losing weight, right. 1251 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 2: So we're in the same category. Yeah, great scene being 1252 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 2: on with you guys. Get on the links this summer 1253 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 2: or something. I don't know. I don't I don't need 1254 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 2: any lessons. Thank you night, Thanks for giving us some 1255 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: time day. We appreciate it. Good luck tonight. 1256 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 5: Thank you that Sabers head coach Lindy Roff here on 1257 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 5: Bill's Night at the Arena. 1258 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. 1259 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 5: So cool conversation there with Lindy, and you know he's 1260 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 5: probably happy to talk about football just to kind of 1261 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 5: switch it up. 1262 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't realize this. 1263 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 5: I was talking to one of their PR people here 1264 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 5: with the saybrus Chris Durkin, and he was just explaining 1265 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 5: how the media commitments for NHL head coaches. He had 1266 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 5: to do an NHL thing this morning, then he had 1267 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 5: to do with gr hit with the flagship station, then 1268 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 5: he had something else. If there's a pregame skate, there 1269 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 5: is media availability where they can talk to the head coach. 1270 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 5: There wasn't this morning, and then he's got and if 1271 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 5: there isn't, he has to provide media availability at like 1272 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 5: five for seven o'clock game, and then he's got to 1273 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 5: do postgame and. 1274 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 2: That's just for one game game. And plus as we 1275 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 2: turn they're playing every other day. Yeah, the their schedules crazy, 1276 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: It's just absolutely crazy. It's a lot, and you can 1277 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 2: you can imagine how difficult it is to navigate the scheduling. 1278 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 2: That's the one thing you could help by the interview. 1279 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 2: I would struggle with that because I'm football is man. 1280 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 2: It is. It is ingrain. That's why there's so much 1281 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 2: pushback when THE'RENNA, We're gonna play on Monday night and 1282 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 2: what are we gonna you know, that messes up our 1283 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 2: whole routine. Right next week we got now we're Mondays. 1284 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 2: We're playing instead of recapping the game yesterday and the 1285 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 2: whole it just goes on and on, and these guys, 1286 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I don't even know if I 1287 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 2: could keep track of the game schedule in the that 1288 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 2: far in the future to know that I got eight 1289 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 2: five games and eight nights coming up now. 1290 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 5: And if you go to Stanley Cup Finals, you're playing 1291 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 5: over one hundred games. Oh my gosh, conceivably it's crazy. 1292 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 5: And you're not sweeping every series right right, So it's 1293 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 5: at least sixteen. It's probably more than that, and you're 1294 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 5: over one hundred. 1295 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's a bear. It's a it's a it's 1296 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 2: a long season, and it's a big grind, and it 1297 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 2: takes a lot of thought and planning to get through it. 1298 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Physicals just one guy getting himself through it, let alone 1299 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 2: all the stuff that's got to go on around him, 1300 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 2: with his teammates and his family and the coaches got 1301 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 2: to get their work in. You gotta get work in, 1302 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 2: you gotta get better, you gotta change things. You got 1303 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 2: to coach him up, you gotta you know, trades happening 1304 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 2: in hockey like nobody's business. It's amazing. That's why I was. 1305 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 5: Asking him though about you know, we're the sports science. 1306 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 5: I would think for a schedule like this would be 1307 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 5: even more important than it would in the NFL. Yes, 1308 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 5: the wear and tear on bodies in the NFL is 1309 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 5: probably more severe, just it's just more there's more collisions, 1310 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 5: especially with today's hockey, which is really just a bunch 1311 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 5: of fast guys skating around twelve. 1312 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 2: It's a game. There's more risk for catastrophic stuff going 1313 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,919 Speaker 2: on in football. But the problem with the difference would 1314 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 2: be for me would be the fact that you know 1315 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 2: you don't get like, for instance, if you get a 1316 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 2: tweak last night in the Montreal game, you're playing today, Well, yeah, 1317 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 2: you don't get forty eight hours to see. Well, we'll 1318 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 2: see how it is on Wednesday then and then you know, 1319 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 2: we'll keep him off. We'll keep him off the like 1320 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 2: the field. Yeah, but till Friday. See if you can 1321 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 2: walk through on Friday, and then we'll go on next Sunday. 1322 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Now you're playing. 1323 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 5: That's why I'm fascinated with how sports science like let's 1324 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 5: just say you had a sports science guy and an 1325 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 5: NFL team and then gets hired by an NHL team. 1326 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 5: The amount of shifts and changes with how they have 1327 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 5: to put a plan together for a hockey team as 1328 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 5: opposed to a football team. It's gotta be night and day, 1329 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 5: not only because of schedule, but because of the length 1330 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 5: of that schedule. 1331 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 2: And they also probably get a different, I don't know, 1332 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 2: a different type of injury they got to deal with. 1333 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 2: Plus the stuff that's chronic that a guy's dragging around 1334 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 2: for three weeks while he's trying to heal, and then 1335 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 2: you go through a stretch like this where it's five games, 1336 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 2: eight nights, and the guy's kind of dragging around an 1337 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 2: ankle or an elbow or what have you, and it's 1338 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 2: like it just never gets a chance to rest or 1339 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 2: heal up. And then if you do get you know, 1340 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 2: then it's like, oh, I got like forty eight hours. 1341 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: I don't have to play, you know. 1342 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 5: So Lindy was telling us about the break for the 1343 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 5: Four Nations Cup. It was essentially a nine day break, right, 1344 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 5: and that's a long break for. 1345 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 2: It feels like a life. It feels like a lifetime. 1346 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: In the NFL, an extra two days, it's yeah, it's 1347 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 2: oh yeah, the bye week and then get a nine 1348 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 2: day break for the Four Nations. Oh my gosh, guys, 1349 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 2: just take a breath, you know. It's like, oh my gosh. 1350 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 2: The question we've. 1351 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 5: Posed to you today deals with being a Buffalo sports fan. 1352 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 5: How would you describe a Buffalo sports fan. We've had 1353 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 5: some interesting descriptions so far. Let's go to the phones 1354 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 5: and see what you think. At eighth three, five point fifty, 1355 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 5: we go to tom Over on the west side to 1356 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 5: lead us off. 1357 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 2: What are you offer? 1358 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Stop good afternoon, guys. You reminded me, okay, Steam, First 1359 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 3: of all, you look cold. You ought to butt Matt Jacket. 1360 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 2: Up that you can hang meet in this building. It 1361 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 2: is so cold. 1362 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 3: Anyway, I would describe it as somebody like me. I've 1363 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 3: told you about the time I went to Burlington, Vermont 1364 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 3: and it was Super Bowl twenty five and I was 1365 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 3: walking around in my Buffalo gear and all my friends 1366 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 3: are like, you're an idiot. You're an idiot, because they 1367 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 3: were all Giants fans and they were laughing at me, 1368 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 3: and nobody bothered me. I never got a hard time, 1369 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 3: and they were proud of me in the end because 1370 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 3: the Giants fans were all tolling me they'd rather have 1371 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 3: your team than their team. Then I went down to Tampa, 1372 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:34,839 Speaker 3: Florida for one of your games when you played Tampa 1373 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 3: and I almost got kicked out of the game. And 1374 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 3: then after that game, my brother and I went down 1375 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 3: to Key West and we were driving back and we 1376 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 3: were coming through Miami. We're headed to Fort Lauderdale to 1377 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 3: go for lunch, and I put my Bills hat in 1378 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 3: his back window and he was having a fit because 1379 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 3: he's like, Oh, this is my wife's car. Somebody's gonna 1380 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 3: damage it. And I'm like, yeah, over it, and nobody 1381 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 3: damaged the car. Then I told you about just this 1382 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 3: past season when I went to the local coffee shop 1383 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 3: and there was this huge San Francisco fan wearing a 1384 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 3: San Francisco jacket. Yep, I told you that one this 1385 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 3: year and yeah, and he didn't bother me. I told him, 1386 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 3: I go go get a new jacket, red, white and blue. So, 1387 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I would have to describe a fan like 1388 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 3: me as being the ultimate fan because I'm not going 1389 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 3: to back down. I'm not a bandwagon fan. 1390 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm not. 1391 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm a loyal fan. And that's what you said, right, Chris. Loyalty. 1392 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, loyalty. That is probably the number one adjective 1393 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 2: I would use for Buffalo sports fans. 1394 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you never back away. 1395 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Here's your team. 1396 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 3: You support your team through second thing, good and bad. 1397 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean, we cry with the team, we celebrate with 1398 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 3: the team. And that's who the Bills fans are and 1399 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 3: done what's bringing the Bills mafia. And now you got 1400 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 3: other teams team fan bases emulating what the Bills do 1401 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 3: because they're starting to donate to different charities for different 1402 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 3: players when something happens. But the Bills Mafia is the 1403 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,560 Speaker 3: one that started that, go ahead and talk about it. 1404 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 3: I know you got a break coming up. 1405 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem to Thanks for the call. Yeah, you're right. 1406 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 5: They they have convinced other fan bases to pay it forward. 1407 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 5: They see what Bill's Mafia has done over the years, 1408 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 5: and they've kind of followed. 1409 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Suit, particularly in this current point in history as well, 1410 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 2: where you got you had that long stretch where the 1411 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 2: Bills were kind of a laughing stock and they were 1412 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 2: you know, they were just an afterthought. They were never 1413 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 2: relevant even in their own division and the fan and 1414 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 2: then you know, the fan base, like we said, it 1415 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 2: grew during that time. And then when they finally popped 1416 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 2: onto the to the radar, you got Josh, you got McDermott, 1417 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 2: you got Brandon Bean, you got all these guys. And 1418 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 2: now they're they're they're in the playoffs and they're the 1419 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 2: only team. They're one of two teams that go to 1420 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs five years in a row and win a 1421 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 2: playoff game five years in a row there and to 1422 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 2: have to get rewarded for it, I think it's a great, 1423 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: a great sales job for any any fan of any 1424 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 2: other team who said, well, you know, look at the Bills. 1425 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Fans they hung in there, and now, look, you know, 1426 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 2: sooner or later you got to know that you're going 1427 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 2: to be rewarded, and that's why you hang around as 1428 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 2: long as you do. And then Bills fans have can 1429 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 2: are the poster fan base for that. You know, they're 1430 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 2: they're the poster child of being rewarded with with their loyalty. 1431 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Mary in North Carolina. What's up Mary, Hi, guys, 1432 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 2: how are you this afternoon? Doing well? Hello? 1433 01:11:59,600 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 1434 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1435 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 4: The Bills fans, I have to say, are proud because 1436 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 4: no matter what city I visit, I almost always run 1437 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 4: into someone wearing either a Bill's shirt a Bill's hat, 1438 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,560 Speaker 4: And all we have to say to each other is 1439 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 4: our universal greeting. 1440 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 5: Is go Bills. 1441 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. Oh yeah, that's that's become part of the vernacular. 1442 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 2: I tell you. It's like aloha. Tell you say hello. 1443 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 2: That's right, It's like aloha, it's hello, goodbye, have a 1444 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 2: good day, have a good day. And it is just yeah, 1445 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 2: it is a universal greeting, and it has become more 1446 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 2: than just you know, it's not just a battle cry 1447 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 2: or something like that. It is a it's it's part 1448 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,560 Speaker 2: of a way of life. It sounds like you know 1449 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 2: what I mean, It kind of is that, and that's 1450 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 2: it's fun to be a part of. Yeah. 1451 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, we go from one North Carolina callar to another 1452 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 5: Gary in North Oh no, sorry Gary and North Collins. 1453 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,839 Speaker 9: How you doing, Gary, I'm doing great. I would consider 1454 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 9: us fans to be loyal masochists, but we still love 1455 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 9: our team. 1456 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1457 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you gotta suffer. Yeah, you keep supporting. 1458 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, I get why you went with 1459 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 2: that description. I understand it. Yeah. 1460 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 5: Look, we don't have to run through the list of suffering. 1461 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 5: It's long enough. And everybody that's been a loyal Buffalo 1462 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 5: sports fan knows knows what the laundry list looks like. 1463 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 2: It is tattooed on our hearts, right, so you don't 1464 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,640 Speaker 2: really have to know the list. It's uh, you almost have. 1465 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 2: It's tattooed on your persona. I mean, everybody knows the 1466 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,799 Speaker 2: words to the mantra of of how the tough breaks 1467 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 2: and the bad games and the and the rough things 1468 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 2: that have gone to the fan base has gone through 1469 01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 2: and uh, it's uh yeah, it's it's part of the 1470 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 2: heritage of being a Bills fan and a person from Buffalo. 1471 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 2: We go to Bob in Buffalo, what do you got 1472 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 2: for his job? 1473 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Bill stan is suffering from PTSD. Goes back as far 1474 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,599 Speaker 1: as I can they go. You know, y mantras, there's 1475 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: always next year. Well from that point end of the 1476 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,600 Speaker 1: season till the beginning next it's post traumatic stress disorder. 1477 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 5: Right, And and look, I get it, Bob, people throw 1478 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 5: that term around. Some people have real tough time with 1479 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 5: that disorder, So I certainly don't want us to make 1480 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 5: light of it. I understand what you're getting at, just 1481 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 5: because when things go the wrong way in a big game, 1482 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 5: it's hard not to be reminded of all the previous 1483 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 5: times where similar circumstances a rose. So I get why 1484 01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:02,600 Speaker 5: you're using that as a description. You know, I have 1485 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 5: a twenty one year old son who first his first 1486 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 5: fifteen years of. 1487 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 2: His life was the drought. 1488 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, so and then you know, playoffs are here and 1489 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 5: he's all pumped for playoffs, and playoff exits without the 1490 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 5: ultimate prize hurt almost as much as being irrelevant, because 1491 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 5: you feel like you're even closer. Yeah, And it's a 1492 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 5: tough thing to deal with. But again, you come back 1493 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 5: to the loyalty and commitment to your fandom and that's 1494 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 5: what embodies Buffalo fans. 1495 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny though it is. It's better to have 1496 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 2: a team like you've got now with Oh you have 1497 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 2: the crusher at the end of the season, rather than 1498 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 2: going through the season dead inside. 1499 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 8: You know. 1500 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 2: That's that's hard. It's hard. But Bill's fans have done 1501 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 2: all of it. Buffalo sports fans have done all of it, 1502 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 2: so it's it's something they're completely from the We have. 1503 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 5: To take a break here, but when we come back, 1504 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 5: it looks like the running back market in free agency 1505 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 5: has been reset, and not by a running back who 1506 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,680 Speaker 5: was set to become a free agent, by one of 1507 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 5: the best running backs in football. We'll explain when we 1508 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 5: come back and how it might impact talks with one 1509 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 5: James Cook for the Bills when we return here on 1510 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 5: One Bill's Live, presented by Cold of Health. It's Buffalo 1511 01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 5: Bill's Radio. All right back here at the key Bank 1512 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 5: Center for Bill's Night. Sabers, Sharks, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 1513 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 5: with you, and as we told you before the break, 1514 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,280 Speaker 5: the free agent running back market has just been reset 1515 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 5: by none other than Saquon Barkley. The Eagles are rewarding 1516 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 5: Barkley for his landmark career best season with a two year, 1517 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 5: forty one point two million dollar contract extension makes him 1518 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 5: the highest paid running back in NFL history. He is 1519 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 5: the first ever twenty million dollar a year running back. 1520 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 5: I have said for over a month that James Cook's 1521 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 5: not getting fifteen million dollars a year in the current 1522 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 5: running back market. Well, that market just shifted, and now 1523 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 5: it's a possibility I might fifteen million a year. It 1524 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 5: might be a possibility for him now at least that 1525 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 5: might be a jumping off point based on this, maybe 1526 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 5: five million less a year average annual value than twenty 1527 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,520 Speaker 5: I don't think that's unrealistic. 1528 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like it is. 1529 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 5: Although this is a two year deal, right so yeah, 1530 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 5: but average annual value counts, Like that's what it's about. 1531 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign a guy to with a ten year, 1532 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 2: twenty million dollar deal a year deal. 1533 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,799 Speaker 5: He got thirty six of that forty one million at signing, 1534 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 5: by the way, Yeah, uh. 1535 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 2: So thirty six right in his pocket. I don't know 1536 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 2: if it goes in his pocket this year. Well, right 1537 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 2: fully guarantee this the first year will probably be fully guaranteed. 1538 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 2: The you know, twenty whatever million of it will be. 1539 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 5: And he still has another fifteen million in incentives that 1540 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 5: he can still achieve that was left in from the 1541 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 5: original deal. 1542 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,360 Speaker 2: Right, he can still get fifteen million dollars more than 1543 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:28,599 Speaker 2: the forty one point two correct. Wow, that's a big deal. 1544 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 5: That is a big deal, and every other running back 1545 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 5: is doing backflips. As a matter of fact, James Cook 1546 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 5: already retweeted the report from ESPN's Adam Schefter with a 1547 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 5: pair of big googly eyes. 1548 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 2: And I'll say this too. We were talking about how, 1549 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 2: you know, James Cook and his deal. He didn't play 1550 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 2: as well as Saquon did last year, He didn't have 1551 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 2: as many carries, all of that stuff, and so he 1552 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 2: shouldn't really get as much as Saquon as Saquon's making it. Well, 1553 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 2: you think about it, and somebody on my social media 1554 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 2: brought it up to me. Akwon signed the twelve million 1555 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 2: dollar deal after a nine hundred yard after the year 1556 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,640 Speaker 2: he had with the Giants two years ago. That's what 1557 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 2: the twelve million dollars. And then plus there's a little 1558 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 2: bit of you know, let's stick it to the Giants 1559 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 2: and the guy's better than the offense that he played 1560 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 2: in with New York Giants. So the Philly was like, oh, 1561 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 2: we'll take the guy and signed him. So there was 1562 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of that in there. But this deal 1563 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 2: is more commensurate with what he did this last year 1564 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 2: without saying anything about what he's made do in the future. 1565 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, Saquon was undervalued because of when he signed 1566 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 2: that deal with the Philadelphia Eagles because he's coming off 1567 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 2: of not a great year. So you're talking about James 1568 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 2: Cook who's coming off of his best year as a pro. 1569 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 2: That probably does pump the numbers up for him, no 1570 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 2: question about it. I think now the twelve million we 1571 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 2: were talking about the window like baseline that's gone. You 1572 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 2: wish you you could, you hope you could sign him 1573 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:00,200 Speaker 2: for that. 1574 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,680 Speaker 5: Now they're not getting them for eight million less per 1575 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 5: year on a contract than Saquon. He was a top 1576 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 5: ten running back. 1577 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 2: The only way around this now where the Bills sit 1578 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 2: right now, is if they franchise him because they don't 1579 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 2: have cap room to spend it yet. They until they 1580 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 2: get that, they're not doing it. They're not getting it 1581 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 2: done now. 1582 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 5: The only thing is so yeah, because the franchise tags 1583 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 5: have been set for twenty twenty five. They obviously will 1584 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:29,639 Speaker 5: not include Barkley's new deal, so that's the benefit. So yeah, 1585 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 5: the tag you got till four o'clock today though, that's 1586 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:34,599 Speaker 5: the only thing. 1587 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 2: Well, they don't need to tag him this year because 1588 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 2: he's on under contract, correct, And certainly there's gonna be 1589 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 2: a ton of guys now, a ton of running backs now. 1590 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna be sitting back in their chair going dude, well, 1591 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 2: you know, well. 1592 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 5: I just find me I just find it interesting that 1593 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 5: about three weeks ago a bunch of running backs got 1594 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,599 Speaker 5: on the phone on a conference call, and we're talking 1595 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 5: to each other, how do we raise our value? And 1596 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,639 Speaker 5: Saquon's done it for them with one stroke of the pen. 1597 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,759 Speaker 2: And so did Derrick Henry. 1598 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 5: Well Rojt and well he was a thirty year old 1599 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,599 Speaker 5: only make an eight million though last year. 1600 01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,600 Speaker 2: That's not my point. My point is this, it's not 1601 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 2: so much about the money. Dereck Henry is not about 1602 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 2: the money. He's about the value he put those guys 1603 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 2: even to a bigger, a higher level offensively than they'd 1604 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 2: ever been before. So the value that he gave that 1605 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 2: offense is one thing. And what the world champions are 1606 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 2: willing to pay their running back puts it in perspective 1607 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 2: of financially, So Saquon's the financial standard, Dereck Henry is 1608 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 2: that is what a running back can do for a team. 1609 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 2: So you've got guys out there, go and listen. I 1610 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 2: can give you this production in this there's your standard. 1611 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 2: It Derrick Henry and Saquon put the running backs back it. 1612 01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,599 Speaker 2: You know, at the centerpiece of an offense. They weren't 1613 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,000 Speaker 2: there five years and nobody was there. 1614 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 5: Yes, and they are troubled by their depressed value because 1615 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 5: if you look at the franchise tags for twenty twenty five, 1616 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,680 Speaker 5: running back is the second lowest in the league. The 1617 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 5: only one lower is kicker, punter, kicker punter franchise tag 1618 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,639 Speaker 5: six point three million. Running Back is the next lowest 1619 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 5: at thirteen point six, then tight end thirteen point eight, 1620 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 5: safety at eighteen point six. Man, o, man, that's something 1621 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 5: who's more important to a football team a feature back 1622 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 5: or a safety? 1623 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 2: Well apparent, Well, here's the thing, and I'll go back 1624 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 2: to it again. There's not that many safeties that are elite. 1625 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 2: There's a ton of running backs that have elite physical abilities. 1626 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 2: There's more of them around. That's the problem. With running backs. 1627 01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 2: There's more of those guys around, there's more plentiful support, 1628 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:04,600 Speaker 2: there's they're everywhere. I was made this point yesterday. You 1629 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 2: look at the combine. They got all these every single 1630 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,640 Speaker 2: running backs running in the four four, every one of them. 1631 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 2: They're all at four four eight four four four five 1632 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 2: or two four four five, four four and seven. They're 1633 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 2: all running four fours and they're all catching the ball. 1634 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 2: They're all doing this stuff. So what's the difference between 1635 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 2: getting a rookie who has got all that stuff going 1636 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,439 Speaker 2: for him and Saquon Barkley who what you just trust 1637 01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,880 Speaker 2: that Saquon is gonna do it for sure? When you 1638 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 2: got another kid who if you coach him upright, he 1639 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 2: could be he could be what ninety five percent of 1640 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 2: what Saquon gives you, maybe he won't hurdle the guy backwards. Okay, 1641 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,679 Speaker 2: I'll take the rest of it. So that's the problem. 1642 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 2: There's nine thousand running backs out there who are really 1643 01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 2: close to be It's a high floor at that position, 1644 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,680 Speaker 2: a very high floor. And there may be in you know, 1645 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 2: a limit up at the top where the where Saquon 1646 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 2: raises the roof, But the floor is clear up here. 1647 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 2: So Yeah, give me a give me Ty Johnson at 1648 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 2: two point one a year on whatever he's making. I 1649 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 2: made that up. Give me Ty Johnson for two point 1650 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 2: one a year instead of Saquon at twenty and then 1651 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 2: give me, you know, two offensive linemen and an outside 1652 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 2: edge rusher. You know what I'm saying. You can get 1653 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 2: all those guys for the same money. It's a hard 1654 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 2: equation to to rationalize to me. That's why I'm still 1655 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I don't know. I like, I saw 1656 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,120 Speaker 2: twenty five running backs at the combine running the four fours. 1657 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 2: There's just too many guys like that around. That's why 1658 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 2: they just. 1659 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 5: Here's my concern. My concern is they wanted they want 1660 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 5: James Cook back in the fold. Oh, they want to 1661 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 5: sign him to a long term extension. That needle just 1662 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,600 Speaker 5: became harder to threat because of this sake ques the extension. 1663 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not saying that that's I like James 1664 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 2: Cook a lot. He's great man, and and the team 1665 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 2: loves him and they won him back. But man, oh man, 1666 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 2: it's hard unless you're transcendent. That's hard to pop that bubble. 1667 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 2: That's hard. And it's a needle that you got a thread. 1668 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,560 Speaker 2: It's not it's not you know, it's not a I 1669 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,280 Speaker 2: don't know whatever analogy I'm looking for, but it you know. 1670 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 5: The negotiation became more challenging because of where the bill's 1671 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 5: current cap situation is and where the market for running 1672 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,920 Speaker 5: a top flight running back just went in the last 1673 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:36,679 Speaker 5: twenty minutes. 1674 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you went. 1675 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 5: From a franchise tag of thirteen point six for twenty 1676 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 5: twenty five and the top of the market is now twenty, 1677 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 5: and James Cook's gonna have to fit somewhere in between 1678 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:55,560 Speaker 5: there thirteen point six and twenty, when prior to the 1679 01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:00,040 Speaker 5: Barklay deal you're probably somewhere between ten and twelve and 1680 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 5: a half and twelve, maybe thirteen at the very top, 1681 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,760 Speaker 5: but not fifteen. Now, fifteen is a legitimate number to 1682 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,600 Speaker 5: talk about James Cook. Yes, but just because of what 1683 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 5: happened in the last twenty minutes. 1684 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 2: Yes, but now you've got one guy making twenty. The 1685 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,760 Speaker 2: franchise is still thirteen, So. 1686 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 5: Now your number is between thirteen and fifteen. It was 1687 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 5: ten to twelve, now it's thirteen to fifteen. And that 1688 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 5: could very well be the difference between oh, you know 1689 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 5: what we can do that I don't know if we can, yeah, absolutely, 1690 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,800 Speaker 5: or one less players on the roster that you wanted 1691 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,600 Speaker 5: to sign that's a veteran, or it may be. 1692 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 2: Well, we can't do it this offseason. We got to 1693 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,120 Speaker 2: do it to the next offseason. We're gonna we gotta 1694 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,560 Speaker 2: wait now, We've gotta wait. Now, We're gotta see what 1695 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 2: the cap looks like next. 1696 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,800 Speaker 5: Year, or you're gonna have to more creatively structure it 1697 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 5: so the money doesn't hit until next year something cap wise. Yeah, yeah, 1698 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 5: So it's it's not an easy conversation for sure. All Right, 1699 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,080 Speaker 5: we got to step aside, take a break here. We 1700 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 5: got one segment left. We'll see we can squeeze in 1701 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 5: a phone call and some final thought on the tweet sheet. 1702 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 5: As we've been asking you today, how would you best 1703 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 5: describe a Buffalo sports fan? We close it up next 1704 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,599 Speaker 5: here on one Bill's Live from the key Bank Center, 1705 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 5: because anybody co lo out of health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1706 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,680 Speaker 5: All right, Chris Bround, Steve Tasker here at the key 1707 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 5: Bank Center, getting you set for Bill's Night for Saber Sharks. 1708 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 2: Steve will be a part of it. Keep an eye 1709 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 2: out for him. 1710 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 5: You'll see him bopping around pregame and'll be visiting some suits. 1711 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 5: You want to say hi to me. I'll be down 1712 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 5: in section one oh five tonight, Steve section. Actually not 1713 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,960 Speaker 5: in your seats, but my section. I'm not in your seats, 1714 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 5: but you know what, I'm a few rows down from you, 1715 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 5: all right. I scored some great seats. 1716 01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 2: We've been in that section for three or four yeah, 1717 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 2: three or four years, and and uh, that's great, it's great. 1718 01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:58,679 Speaker 2: Uh behind the bench. 1719 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw over a sh shoulder. 1720 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 5: They put coach McDermott to work a short time ago. 1721 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 2: They did. 1722 01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 5: They had him out on the zamboni driving around back here, 1723 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 5: very slow, but he was in there. He was he 1724 01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 5: was in the driver's seat doing it. 1725 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1726 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh, you know, I'm sure you'll you'll see 1727 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 5: it somewhere in the social social media section. 1728 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get me started on his driving the zamboni. 1729 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,720 Speaker 2: The Yeah, the Olympic whatever that is, the ice the. 1730 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,320 Speaker 5: Olympia models now is what they use. I don't even 1731 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 5: think they used the Zamboni models. That's what that's what 1732 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 5: we grew up with. Yeah, but yeah, they had him 1733 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,799 Speaker 5: doing the ovals. He was doing the ovals. Yeah, if 1734 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,559 Speaker 5: you cut your own lawn, i'd like to know. I'd 1735 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,839 Speaker 5: like to think be able to figure out your pattern 1736 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 5: for a zamboni. It's a much larger piece. 1737 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 2: Of machinery you're dealing with. Yeah, it's just not a 1738 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 2: rider moment. Getting the more up next to your house, 1739 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 2: you do. Just get the boards there and just kind 1740 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 2: of slide it. Yeah, I could do it. I'm sure 1741 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 2: I could do it. I don't want to do it though. Yeah, 1742 01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 2: I know it's cold enough in here. I don't want 1743 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 2: to get out on the ice or freeze even more. 1744 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 5: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheets, Steve in terms 1745 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,400 Speaker 5: of described the best description of what it is to 1746 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 5: be a Buffalo sports fan, Christian says, Buffalo sports fans 1747 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 5: are resilient. 1748 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 2: Yes they are. There is no debating that. 1749 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:26,600 Speaker 5: Joey says relentless fanatics. B Robinson says loyal and not 1750 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 5: afraid to show it through good times and bad. I 1751 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,720 Speaker 5: live in southwest Missouri, and I don't remember seeing many 1752 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,599 Speaker 5: Chiefs fans until Mahomes came along and they started winning. 1753 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 5: I will agree with that Bill's fans wear their gear, 1754 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 5: whether they're a three and thirteen team or A fourteen 1755 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:42,760 Speaker 5: and three. 1756 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 2: That's true, they do now. It's easier to wear it now, 1757 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:45,639 Speaker 2: but still. 1758 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 5: And here's a good one from Jack Steadfast and hopeful. 1759 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,519 Speaker 5: That's a good description, very nice, nice contributions today, Thanks 1760 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 5: for all the tweets. 1761 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 2: Steve will be here tonight, so will I. 1762 01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 5: Sabers Night, Bill's Night, Saber Sharks, the mone