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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned in the previous search, it's never too

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Speaker 1: early to talk fantasy football. No, it's not. It's officially

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Speaker 1: fantasy season. Yes, especially if you're in a dynasty league

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Speaker 1: where now that the draft is over and you know

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Speaker 1: where everybody's at, where they landed at. Well, now it's

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Speaker 1: time to start drafting those guys. Yeah, and I actually

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Speaker 1: have a Dynasty draft on Monday, so those start happening quickly.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much all my leagues will have our rookie draft

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Speaker 1: finished in the next month or so. So yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you're seeing these rookie lists come out left and right

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Speaker 1: by the different sites that I like, and there's no consensus.

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Speaker 1: I mean some years there's always a consensus. Like when

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Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley came out, he was the first pick.

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Speaker 1: Boom forget about a girly zeke, you know, some of

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Speaker 1: year there's a lot of guys all over the place,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, I don't have my list yet. So I

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Speaker 1: think talking through it will be good for me because

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Speaker 1: a lot of what I'm saying in terms of ranks

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Speaker 1: is very subject to change. Yeah, I agree, we gotta

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Speaker 1: get you in the Dynasty League. Sometimes I'd love to

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Speaker 1: get into. Yeah, yeah, I'll try to some startup. We'll

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Speaker 1: try to get you in. So the number one player

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Speaker 1: some offensive linemen. There, he can he can run me

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Speaker 1: and he catches the ball. Well, yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: like there with Breece Hall as number one. Michael Carter

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Speaker 1: is a decent player, but he's clearly the compliment. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: he's not the every down guy that Breesce Hall is

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Speaker 1: going to be. I'm kind of surprised though, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: here at this. I say, a lot of these lists

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Speaker 1: are different. Don't take these as gospels. You have his

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Speaker 1: number two, then why did you ask me that? Um?

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Speaker 1: I really like Williams as a player. I think London's

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be very honest, in these just start

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Speaker 1: to trade it for a young veteran. Yeah. No, that

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Speaker 1: that's probably a good a good thought because I mean,

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Speaker 1: Nation radio. George Pickens has wide receiver one traits. It's

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Speaker 1: all day long and take Pickens. Yeah, the one that

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Speaker 1: Trailing Burks to Drake London three about a month ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a very raw player. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: they don't throw the football. No, I'm said, they want

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Speaker 1: to run. It's gonna be even more so now you know, Yeah, Milike,

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Speaker 1: lead the team in receptions exactly. So who would be

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Speaker 1: I'm glad there's some fresh eyes on this. Who would

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Speaker 1: it's not Burkes based on opportunities. Mean he has nobody

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is there, he doesn't know and I don't

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Speaker 1: mean he's still not great. No, I mean like last year,

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Speaker 1: sky More versus Lava. He's gonna have four years of

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Speaker 1: looking here at this list that you sent me. George

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Speaker 1: Pickens is way too low. Here's some of the guys

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Speaker 1: George Pickens is behind on this list. Let me warn

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Speaker 1: people this, and this is kind of a lesson for

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Speaker 1: Hankins could be a pretty valuable pick. I mean Dante

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Speaker 1: what their team needs will be, what position that will be.

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Speaker 1: But if I told you whoever it was probably won't

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Speaker 1: me up for that, right, I mean, if it's a

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Speaker 1: beauty of it is this. I know we're kind of

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about what a great quarterback draft next year's

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Speaker 1: draft will be. Hm, Well, the Steelers won't be in

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Speaker 1: three or four quarterbacks go ahead of them. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a really good foot position player, right, and then

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Speaker 1: next year you're gonna be rooting for quarterbacks to go

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Speaker 1: the Bill's GM. It's a real big picture way of

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Speaker 1: looking at that. He was talking about how they're sitting

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Speaker 1: there at twenty five and they they were thinking that

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Speaker 1: That's what the Bills were thinking, folks, that there would

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Speaker 1: be two or three quarterbacks go ahead of them. So

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Speaker 1: they were looking at it this, Okay, if two or

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks go ahead, go ahead of us, then these

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Speaker 1: twenty two or twenty three position players are going to

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Speaker 1: be what we're gonna get an opportunity to pick. And

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Speaker 1: then they didn't. They didn't, and so he was he

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Speaker 1: was disappointed with that. Well, that could be where the

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Speaker 1: situation the Steelers are in next year. Like this, look

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Speaker 1: after this, Lens, instead of taking bax Hill or whoever

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Speaker 1: at twenty or McDuffie and passing on the quarterback, would

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Speaker 1: you rather have pick it for a year longer? And

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Speaker 1: you're picking a twenty again next year, and this time

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Speaker 1: you're getting a prospect that's really like the tenth best

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Speaker 1: prospect in the league because he's a non quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the other ones are falling. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like when you combine as opposed to picking a twenty,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta trade up like crazy to get to

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Speaker 1: eight to get a better quarterback prospect than pick it,

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Speaker 1: although you have a year less of him. But the

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Speaker 1: guy you get it, twenty next year could be that

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Speaker 1: top ten dude, you know what I mean, Like you

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Speaker 1: combine the two first round picks, it might add up

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Speaker 1: more to do it this way. Yeah, So I think

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Speaker 1: I think that was all weight in the equation. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think Pickett is a is a fantasy player.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you do well, especially in a

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Speaker 1: super flex like I start their Car every week and

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Speaker 1: I'm happy about it. He'll be that production or better

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Speaker 1: pickets being in that well, he'll never be better than

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr or Kirk Cousins. Okay, right the next ten years. Right,

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Speaker 1: Car is not a huge producer in fantasy. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think he'll I'll produce Car and Picke. It's a

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Speaker 1: better runner than both, That's what I mean. He's a

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Speaker 1: better runner, right, and they'll be designed runs in this offense.

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Speaker 1: I know we're up against it. But here's a couple

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Speaker 1: of names that didn't make the list. Trey McBride is

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Speaker 1: pretty clearly the top tight end. He's usually going in

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Speaker 1: it kind of funny that you don't see kwan Thornton's

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Speaker 1: Zamir White with the Raiders is interesting to me, with

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Speaker 1: them not picking up Josh Jacobs. You know, option absolutely

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Speaker 1: he could be the one next year. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's squinting too hard. So those are some of the

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Speaker 1: other names that are kind of interesting. Pierre Strong with

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Speaker 1: That's a good one too. I mean you mentioned that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he we've seen this happen. The one year that the

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Speaker 1: Packers drafted three wide receivers, another year they drafted what

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Speaker 1: To the top guy wasn't always the guy, not even close,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones went right pastor Ball Williams. Yeah, so Dobbs

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Speaker 1: is more Rogers friendly than Watson is. To Dobbs, Dobbs

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Speaker 1: is more like Davante Adams stylistically and then then Watson

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Speaker 1: is Yeah, I think Rogers will like him on Mini

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Speaker 1: think that's I think that's pretty uh interesting. You also do.

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Speaker 1: My affinity for hot young tight ends, Gilani Woods and

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Speaker 1: Indie is a definite stash for me. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: He may not hit this year, it may not hit

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Speaker 1: next care Yeah, but two year, two or three years

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Speaker 1: from not could be lightning in a bottle. And we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about more of this stuff. It's good stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for today's show. So for my

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