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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We got lots just say, we got lots to save.

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Speaker 3: What backer here?

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Speaker 2: And we hope you say because we.

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Speaker 4: Got lots to say, Yeah, we got.

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Speaker 3: Lots to say.

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Speaker 5: Here's that.

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Speaker 1: I'm holding a football and it's an Arkansas raised by football.

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Speaker 6: I just keep it around.

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Speaker 7: Well what's part holding football or the.

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Speaker 7: And so I'm holding it as I normally do. The

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Speaker 7: Castle is like, let me see your grip.

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Speaker 1: Now, I didn't move my grip, so I have you uh,

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Speaker 1: you can comment on it without me changing it from

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Speaker 4: So you've got one finger on the lace. I've got

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Speaker 4: two two too, yeah yeah yeah, two fingers on the lights.

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Speaker 1: I got the pinky on like the third yep, my

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Speaker 1: natural Where where would you? This is where it is

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Speaker 1: throwing it, that's it. Okay, how would you hold it?

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Speaker 4: So I would usually hold it?

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Speaker 7: You big hands? Not that big bro.

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Speaker 4: I mean some of these guys like yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 4: So I would I mean, I'd hold it here second

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Speaker 4: lot of guys like they do, whether it's Stafford or Brady,

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Speaker 4: and these guys they hold that, they hold it here

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Speaker 4: on this last lace with their third fingers.

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Speaker 7: That pinky is going so far down the laces, like

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Speaker 1: I don't need that pinky, you know, with that wrist.

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Speaker 1: your hands are huge, and I'm not a small man,

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Speaker 7: I'm not small. I'm like six foot and a half

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Speaker 7: Thank you appreciate that mobile quarterback. Did they measure your hands?

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Speaker 7: That was great.

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Speaker 4: They ran out of time because they are all right, guy,

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Speaker 7: Let's go. We don't care about your hands, all right. Question.

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Speaker 7: So we're going into week ten, right, that's next next week? Yep?

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Speaker 7: When do people get tired?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to say because I think for every

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Speaker 1: So football stress is fatigue the same as life stress

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, because think about it. You cowboys

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Speaker 7: So it's it's like you said, it's like life.

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Speaker 4: When you're dealing with stress and your things aren't going well,

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Speaker 7: I don't even know. Have the Jets are getting out

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Speaker 4: Boys, there's quite a few out there.

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Speaker 1: Having a bad season, meaning the player just decides it

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Speaker 7: Anyway, I can't speak for other people.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've never took on that mentality of trying

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Speaker 4: you guys. All Right, we're gonna go back and forth.

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Speaker 4: Let's do a couple.

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Speaker 1: We have Legarrett Blunt coming up in just a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but I want to go first with the MVP race,

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Speaker 1: and so I've got five four three two one. Now

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Speaker 1: Draft Kings has given us the odds. Here the latest

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Speaker 1: Draft Kings MVP rankings. At number five, Baker Mayfield, Uh,

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Speaker 1: dead to buy this past week. They do have a

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Speaker 7: Yes they do. It's them of the Pats, right, yep, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 7: That's a big one for both teams. Yeah, teams very big.

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Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield at five, Matthew Stafford at.

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Speaker 4: Four, matt Stafford at four. Huh, he went twenty four

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'd like to hear that. Sorry, I don't mean

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Speaker 1: I mean that I wasn't even through even that the Stafford?

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Speaker 7: Oh, Matthew, I played with him. We get it was

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Speaker 7: gonna say that. Yeah you did though, all right?

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Speaker 1: Number three Drake may uh nineteen for twenty nine, two

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Speaker 7: Hey, how'd you feel about Drake man? That you? I

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Speaker 7: know you were dialed into that game, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a couple of bad plays, which he

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Speaker 6: But it was up and down.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not the Drake May that we've seen from weeks

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Speaker 7: You're gonna have downs, Isn't it nice?

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Speaker 1: That that down was a W and it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: It was nice to see a Drake May down day

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Speaker 1: end in the W and him still playing pretty solid, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the last five years the Patriots would have

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 6: He still played okay, he just had two dumb plays.

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Speaker 7: You see you see Braybel pumping up on the sidelines. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I love the fact though he's not going to be perfect,

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Speaker 7: That was big as well.

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Speaker 4: So their team's playing really well and that was a

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Speaker 7: Right Also, Atlanta's got a pretty good defense. They do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing that's concerning right now is the

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Speaker 1: Was Miles Garrett doesn't count though. You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I know, I get it. He's switching tackles, he's running

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You cannot put that in the equation. I'm just not

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Speaker 1: you can't. I guess the problem.

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Speaker 4: Strip rookies and the strip sack was a meeting at

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Speaker 4: that they strip sack and return for a touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: Oh close, they did score, but they close to it.

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Speaker 1: I just will not allow you to compare Miles Garret

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Speaker 6: Mean four I believe, Yeah, Josh Allen's never beat them.

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Speaker 1: That game has to be like for Josh Allen, for

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Speaker 7: And that's what's mind boggling about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: The last one wasn't near as close, But you're right.

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Speaker 7: Actually do it again. They might tie the ball game,

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Speaker 7: and it might go Josh Allen, is your favorite for MVP?

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Speaker 4: But he said something kind of to your point about, look,

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Speaker 4: If they're five and three team right now, and I'm

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Speaker 4: if we ran this play, but let's hold this for playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's not going out there to win the game.

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Speaker 4: And I just don't think that anybody would go into

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Speaker 1: Do you think a bit of it is him being

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Speaker 4: I think there's part of that, I really do, because

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Speaker 7: Have I told you have I told him our recent

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Speaker 6: Recent?

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Speaker 1: So I go to dinner with Nick Wright like three

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Speaker 4: I haven't told you this, no, because we were all

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Speaker 4: I got a bigger deal than.

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Speaker 7: No no no no no no no. And you guys could

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Speaker 1: My agent is Nick or agent, and Ariel Hawane, who

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Speaker 7: I didn't know who was going to be at this thing,

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Speaker 1: My agent's like, hey, this is Nick obviously I know

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Speaker 7: I didn't say anything else. And then one he didn't

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Speaker 1: And then Ariel next goes, is it that your podcast?

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Speaker 7: Sorry, I'll do it. I'll do it whenever you want.

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Speaker 7: So funny. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Yeah I did not.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you disappeared when we got to New York.

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Speaker 7: What whoa am?

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Speaker 4: We went, oh yeah, we met immediately down the lobby

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Speaker 1: I don't use the word obligation. You're right, I'm totally

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Speaker 7: going to go meet my agent. That's what it was. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, he was he was super nice, and he was

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Speaker 7: He was like, call him whenever.

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Speaker 1: But I I think that's an interesting take that they

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Speaker 7: You know what, I'm gonna side with you because you're

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, Okay, all right, moving on to my

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Speaker 1: But I got a call total nonsense on them giving

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Speaker 7: The season starts. It's you know, we had Ryan suckapon

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Speaker 4: just based on the fact that these field goal kickers

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Speaker 1: Well, the difference of the doctoring is they get to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the kickers are getting better, bigger, better, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think we need to chill out on

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Speaker 7: This isn't cheating, but it's like a different ball. So

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Speaker 1: I admitted to staying with this ball forever so all

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Speaker 1: this because these field goals you're right. As soon as

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Speaker 4: Right, But to say sixty eight yards, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: they show the clip and they're like, okay, moving on.

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Speaker 1: Also, they were playing the Raiders, and it's like, you know,

441
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Speaker 1: when you're seeing two logos up there that you really

442
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Speaker 1: cared nothing about.

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Speaker 4: Right now it's the Jags and the Raiders. Yeah, that's uh,

444
00:18:51,896 --> 00:18:52,975
Speaker 4: that's pretty true.

445
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Speaker 7: But good for Cam.

446
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable sixty eight yard and I think it's given him

447
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Speaker 1: a few yards because the balls are already kicker friendly.

448
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Speaker 7: I wonder if somebody will break the record this year

449
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Speaker 7: and go sixty nine to seventy. I think there's operator right,

450
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Speaker 7: sixty eight two. He missed it. Yeah, it's not that easy.

451
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Speaker 7: Did you see the green Bay kicker this week.

452
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Speaker 4: This week, literally miss the pat and a chip shot

453
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Speaker 4: field goal.

454
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Speaker 7: I mean it's not as easy as you think.

455
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Speaker 1: Hey, the Falcons missed the point to lose the game, beautiful.

456
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Speaker 1: I didn't say it was easy. By the way, you

457
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Speaker 1: need to not put words in it.

458
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Speaker 7: I didn't say that. It was you're putting words.

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Speaker 1: You said you hated Nick Smith, right right, I get

460
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Speaker 1: it right.

461
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that childhood bully Nick Smith.

462
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Speaker 7: Yeah he was meaning.

463
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Speaker 1: I was thinking of the Arkansas basketball player, the guy

464
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Speaker 1: drafted about the Hornets. You got my next mixed up?

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Speaker 1: All right, go back over to you, all right, So

466
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Speaker 1: I'm such an idiot. Go ahead, Monday Night football. I

467
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Speaker 1: know it's Dallas Cowboys.

468
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Speaker 4: But Jacoby Brissett for the Cardinals is making a case

469
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Speaker 4: for himself to stay on the field because he's now

470
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Speaker 4: played what three games, and he's been incredible. Eight hundred

471
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Speaker 4: and sixt yards in those games, six touchdowns, only one interception.

472
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Speaker 4: But the team looks different. They've got confidence going and

473
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Speaker 4: how he distributes the ball, in what he's doing, just

474
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Speaker 4: the full command of that offense. It just looks different.

475
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Speaker 4: And I think Jonathan Gannon's got a question that He's

476
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Speaker 4: going to have to answer pretty soon of when Kyler

477
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Speaker 4: is healthy, if they keep Jacobi on the field and

478
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Speaker 4: see if they can continue to ride the success that

479
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Speaker 4: they're having offensively, or if they're going to put Kyler

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Speaker 4: Murray back on the field.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a tough decision.

482
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Speaker 1: I think there were too many moving parts this season

483
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Speaker 1: to trade Kyler. I think he has traded in the

484
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Speaker 1: off season. I think Kyler ends up getting traded. So

485
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Speaker 1: I would ask you the question, what's best not to

486
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Speaker 1: play him he doesn't get injured, everyone knows his ceiling.

487
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Speaker 1: Or play him and let him play a little injured

488
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Speaker 1: because everybody's a little injured right now, right like week ten,

489
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Speaker 1: Week eleven, Week twelve, everybody's a little injured, right Play

490
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Speaker 1: him and you have the risk of him not performing

491
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Speaker 1: well and his trade value possibly goes down a little.

492
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Speaker 1: What would you do well?

493
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Speaker 4: I think as a GM you think about trade value,

494
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Speaker 4: But as a coach that isn't somewhat of a hot seat,

495
00:21:07,576 --> 00:21:10,496
Speaker 4: hasn't had a tremendous amount of success in a division

496
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Speaker 4: that's probably the most competitive in the NFL in the

497
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Speaker 4: NFC West, that he's sitting there going I need to

498
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Speaker 4: play the guy that's going to give us the best

499
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Speaker 4: opportunity to win games now, and so he's got to

500
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Speaker 4: make that decision, and I'm sure the evaluation process is

501
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Speaker 4: still ongoing. In the five games that they've lost this year,

502
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Speaker 4: all of them been one score games, and multiple have

503
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Speaker 4: been three points or less. So it's not that they're

504
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Speaker 4: getting their doors blown off, but they haven't been able

505
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Speaker 4: to get over that hump where a guy makes a

506
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Speaker 4: play late or they The Tennessee game was just an

507
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Speaker 4: absolute debacle.

508
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Speaker 7: We talked about that with the drop ball and the

509
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Speaker 7: goal line and all that stuff.

510
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Speaker 4: So they should could be in a much different position

511
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Speaker 4: if they would have won a few of those games.

512
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Speaker 4: But just watching how Jacobi's performed as a coach, I

513
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Speaker 4: think it makes it a much harder decision. It's not

514
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Speaker 4: just the financial decision, because Kyler Murray, look, economics means something,

515
00:22:03,416 --> 00:22:05,455
Speaker 4: and the amount of money that they're paying him a

516
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Speaker 4: lot of times will influence a decision of hey, look

517
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Speaker 4: he's going back in. We've we've committed money to him.

518
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Speaker 4: He's our franchise, the face of our franchise. But at

519
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Speaker 4: the end of the day, you do have to look

520
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Speaker 4: at it from a coach's perspective, which I think that

521
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Speaker 4: there's going to be pushed back from him saying if

522
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Speaker 4: he believes that Jacoby Brissett puts him in the best

523
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Speaker 4: position to be successful, that he's going to say, We're

524
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Speaker 4: going to go with him and see what see what happens.

525
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Speaker 1: Lagarrett Blanc coming up next, will also do our segment

526
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Speaker 1: with DraftKings the week in preview?

527
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Speaker 7: Is that what we call it? Is there even a

528
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Speaker 7: name for Yeah?

529
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Speaker 6: We can preview.

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Speaker 1: We were in previewviewview, don't edded out my nick.

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Speaker 7: Myth clip and it's smith.

532
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Speaker 1: All right, We'll come back with Lagarrett Blant. Now let's

533
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Speaker 1: get to three times Super Bowl champion Lagherett Blant. He

534
00:23:04,896 --> 00:23:07,936
Speaker 1: won two Patriots, one went to Eagles. Led the league

535
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Speaker 1: in rushing touchdown of twenty sixteen with eighteen.

536
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Speaker 7: Man if you had a mind the fancy team that year,

537
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Speaker 7: he killed it. Dude.

538
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Speaker 1: A lot of people still remember him, and I do

539
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Speaker 1: not only for this, but when he knocked the dude

540
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Speaker 1: out for coldcock from Boise State, dropped.

541
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Speaker 7: Him, yeah drop. It was amazing.

542
00:23:25,576 --> 00:23:27,936
Speaker 1: Thought his career was over, but he proved everybody wrong.

543
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Speaker 1: Went on to have a great career. Now you did

544
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Speaker 1: not play with him with the Patriots.

545
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Speaker 7: No, I did not play with them with the Patriots.

546
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Speaker 4: Actually my last year and I believe it was his

547
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Speaker 4: last year in twenty eighteen with Detroit. We were both

548
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Speaker 4: together Matt Patricia. Obviously he knew Matt Patricia from New England,

549
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Speaker 4: and I knew Matt Patrician. I think probably that's how

550
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Speaker 4: he came on board as well. But we were together

551
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Speaker 4: in Detroit and awesome teammate, awesome guy, and just a

552
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Speaker 4: beast of a man, like six one two forty five,

553
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Speaker 4: and nobody wanted to tackle him, like he'd just run

554
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Speaker 4: through your face.

555
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Speaker 7: Big thanks to Legarrett. Here he is Lagarrett blind.

556
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Speaker 1: Hey, Lagarrett, I'm with Matt every you know, every week

557
00:24:07,256 --> 00:24:10,096
Speaker 1: we do the show. And Matt, like yourself's retired ball player.

558
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Speaker 1: And I know what he does now because we talk

559
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Speaker 1: about it a lot, just since your retirement, Like, what

560
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Speaker 1: do you do?

561
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Speaker 7: What's your fulfillment now?

562
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Speaker 8: Man?

563
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Speaker 9: My fulfillment is coaching coach my all point in high school,

564
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Speaker 9: Go Pride. You know, we're in the playoffs. We're in

565
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Speaker 9: the playoffs right now. So we've got a game on Friday.

566
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Speaker 9: So my son is just turned sixteen, in September. So

567
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Speaker 9: I am enjoying, I guess, recreating my glory days of

568
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Speaker 9: high school watching him play.

569
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Speaker 4: Hey, well, then, what type of coach are you? Are

570
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Speaker 4: you the good after him? Are you more of the teacher?

571
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Speaker 4: What's your approach when you're coaching the youth these days?

572
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Speaker 9: So I am more of a I'm a laid back

573
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Speaker 9: guy because I have had so many coaches be that

574
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Speaker 9: guy always getting after him or customer yelling at the kids.

575
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Speaker 9: I've had so much of that growing up, and I

576
00:25:02,816 --> 00:25:06,216
Speaker 9: just there is a place for it. Uh, I think

577
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Speaker 9: that's not my place. You got to get guys in

578
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Speaker 9: there that's that's willing to be the bad guy that

579
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Speaker 9: kids don't like it, and you know they they can talk,

580
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Speaker 9: you know, they can talk about you know, I don't

581
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Speaker 9: like this guy. So I try not to be that guy,

582
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Speaker 9: just for the simple fact that it's it's pretty tough

583
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Speaker 9: already on him. I'm already pretty tough on him. I

584
00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:28,535
Speaker 9: got him. They go straight to meetings after school, so

585
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Speaker 9: I give him pretty much as close to a schedule

586
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Speaker 9: of ours that that that I that I can you

587
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Speaker 9: know what I mean, you know how it goes.

588
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Speaker 7: He's sixteen, Do you see a lot of his instincts

589
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Speaker 7: that you had. Do you see a lot of you

590
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Speaker 7: and him?

591
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Speaker 9: I do see a lot of me and him. But

592
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Speaker 9: he is a lot more athletic than I was. He

593
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Speaker 9: plays safety and receiver where I played running back, linebacker,

594
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Speaker 9: so he's a lot more fluid. He's a lot more athletic.

595
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Speaker 9: So he's he's probably my height right now. Ball skills

596
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Speaker 9: is nice man, He's a he's a go getter man.

597
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Speaker 9: I've filled a few phone calls about them about him recently,

598
00:26:07,616 --> 00:26:08,896
Speaker 9: so that's always good.

599
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Speaker 4: Is it hard watching your son play? Because I know

600
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Speaker 4: when I go to my kids youth events, like you're

601
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Speaker 4: sitting there and you feel the good in the bad,

602
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Speaker 4: And it's so different being there as a parent watching

603
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Speaker 4: your kids play sports and try to separate that from

604
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Speaker 4: the emotional side of it.

605
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Speaker 9: I try to stay disconnected, especially on the defensive side.

606
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Speaker 9: I'm the offensive coordinator with co offensive coordinated with coach

607
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Speaker 9: Justin Artist, who's a military guy. So and it's crazy

608
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Speaker 9: because he's the military guy and he still ain't the

609
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Speaker 9: guy that does the discipline or and it's like in

610
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Speaker 9: the military, you're disciplined, you go on the schedule, your

611
00:26:48,296 --> 00:26:52,176
Speaker 9: routine based and all those things. But again he might

612
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Speaker 9: be a little he might be a little wit done

613
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Speaker 9: with that as well.

614
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Speaker 8: Just like I am. So we delegated to someone else.

615
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Speaker 9: We'll try to give it to a younger guy who's

616
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Speaker 9: trying to establish himself, because you know, they usually tend

617
00:27:03,336 --> 00:27:07,496
Speaker 9: to try to impress older coaches, So we daily get

618
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Speaker 9: it off of that.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 9: It's fun to watch him, though, I don't get nervous.

621
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Speaker 9: I just enjoy watching them play. I don't get nervous.

622
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Speaker 9: I feel like I've taught him well. I've given him

623
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Speaker 9: all the ends and nods I've been coaching since he

624
00:27:17,816 --> 00:27:20,055
Speaker 9: was like nine to you. So he knows how to

625
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:23,176
Speaker 9: tackle well. He knows how to protect themselves when he

626
00:27:23,215 --> 00:27:25,416
Speaker 9: catched the ball on a like a bang bang play,

627
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Speaker 9: he knows how to hype on it.

628
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Speaker 8: I mean, he's a good athlete man. So I don't

629
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Speaker 8: get really nervous washing him play.

630
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Speaker 9: Because I feel like I've taught him really well to

631
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Speaker 9: how to protect himself in the game.

632
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Speaker 7: You ever sit down to show him Dad's highlights, or

633
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Speaker 7: ever catch him watching dazz highlights.

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Speaker 9: He's a little bit older now, so I ain't caught

635
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Speaker 9: and watching my highlights in a long time.

636
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Speaker 8: I remember, I remember when he was growing up, you.

637
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Speaker 9: Know, getting six, seven, eight nine, you know, probably up

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Speaker 9: until eleven or twelve years old. I mean, I guess

639
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Speaker 9: that's speaking of now. Its just sound crazy because that's

640
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Speaker 9: four or five years.

641
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Speaker 8: From now ago. But I used to always come home

642
00:28:01,936 --> 00:28:02,656
Speaker 8: and see.

643
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Speaker 9: His iPad on the ground with just highlights of.

644
00:28:04,696 --> 00:28:05,495
Speaker 8: My runners playing, and.

645
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Speaker 9: And now it's highlights of Sauce Gardner and and uh

646
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Speaker 9: the guy from the Raiders, Hamilton and uh, you know

647
00:28:16,176 --> 00:28:19,616
Speaker 9: all these all these nice safeties and you know, corners

648
00:28:19,696 --> 00:28:22,416
Speaker 9: and DB's in the league. That's that's those are those

649
00:28:22,416 --> 00:28:24,696
Speaker 9: are the highlights you look at now. So if you're

650
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Speaker 9: gonna watch mine, it's gonna have to be an Instagram

651
00:28:26,656 --> 00:28:29,576
Speaker 9: post that that a team, that a team contributed out

652
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Speaker 9: with me, you know, on this post, by what the

653
00:28:33,735 --> 00:28:35,696
Speaker 9: bucceteers did the other day. You know that that would

654
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Speaker 9: be the only way he looked at my highlights anymore.

655
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Speaker 9: Even the NFL sent me like a little USB drive,

656
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Speaker 9: but all my players on it.

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Speaker 8: I don't even think he's looked at it yet.

658
00:28:42,096 --> 00:28:43,855
Speaker 7: So all right, let's go back to you.

659
00:28:44,176 --> 00:28:46,976
Speaker 4: And you grew up in Florida, you obviously went to

660
00:28:47,136 --> 00:28:50,016
Speaker 4: JUCO out of out of high school, right you went

661
00:28:50,016 --> 00:28:53,256
Speaker 4: to East Mississippi Juco. Talk to me about making that

662
00:28:53,336 --> 00:28:55,976
Speaker 4: decision to go all the way out the Oregon. What

663
00:28:56,016 --> 00:28:59,136
Speaker 4: went into that decision versus going somewhere else around the country,

664
00:28:59,176 --> 00:28:59,856
Speaker 4: and why Oregon.

665
00:29:00,216 --> 00:29:02,376
Speaker 9: The funny story about that is when I when I

666
00:29:02,416 --> 00:29:05,696
Speaker 9: got when I was getting recruited, it was heavily had

667
00:29:05,696 --> 00:29:09,776
Speaker 9: a handful of offers whatever. But the thing for me

668
00:29:09,976 --> 00:29:11,896
Speaker 9: was my parents had a tough time watching me play

669
00:29:11,936 --> 00:29:13,736
Speaker 9: because I was in Mississippi and they were in Florida.

670
00:29:14,736 --> 00:29:19,216
Speaker 9: So initially I committed to Florida State. That was my

671
00:29:19,256 --> 00:29:22,216
Speaker 9: initial commitment because that's only like forty minutes away from

672
00:29:22,216 --> 00:29:25,056
Speaker 9: where I grew up at And I mean, I'm not

673
00:29:25,056 --> 00:29:26,936
Speaker 9: the biggest Florida State fan, so I'm a going record

674
00:29:26,976 --> 00:29:28,136
Speaker 9: and say that I'm a Gator fan.

675
00:29:30,056 --> 00:29:33,976
Speaker 8: But I didn't. I didn't like to vibe there.

676
00:29:34,096 --> 00:29:38,095
Speaker 9: The conversations weren't great when me and my dad was

677
00:29:38,136 --> 00:29:40,855
Speaker 9: asking about what does it look like for me to

678
00:29:40,856 --> 00:29:43,216
Speaker 9: play and things like that. Because I was becoming I

679
00:29:43,216 --> 00:29:46,136
Speaker 9: was going to go into college d one but as

680
00:29:46,136 --> 00:29:48,696
Speaker 9: a junior, so I wasn't going to have like three

681
00:29:48,776 --> 00:29:49,216
Speaker 9: or four years.

682
00:29:49,256 --> 00:29:49,856
Speaker 8: I wanted to go to have.

683
00:29:49,816 --> 00:29:51,696
Speaker 9: Two years to play left, so that was important for

684
00:29:51,776 --> 00:29:52,856
Speaker 9: us as playing time.

685
00:29:52,936 --> 00:29:55,095
Speaker 8: Well, when I got there, Antoine.

686
00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:58,536
Speaker 9: Antoine Smith, I think, was the running back, and they

687
00:29:58,576 --> 00:30:01,976
Speaker 9: pretty much told me without saying in so many words, like, hey,

688
00:30:02,016 --> 00:30:04,376
Speaker 9: he's the guy. He's going to continue to be the

689
00:30:04,416 --> 00:30:06,856
Speaker 9: guy until he's gone on the way to his turn.

690
00:30:08,096 --> 00:30:09,656
Speaker 9: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to wait your

691
00:30:09,736 --> 00:30:13,096
Speaker 9: turn kind of kind of thing. And I understand that.

692
00:30:13,536 --> 00:30:15,376
Speaker 9: I felt like I was a better guy, but I didn't.

693
00:30:15,536 --> 00:30:18,656
Speaker 9: I didn't want to risk it, you know. And then

694
00:30:18,696 --> 00:30:21,856
Speaker 9: I went to Orgon on my official visit and talked

695
00:30:21,856 --> 00:30:23,936
Speaker 9: to coach Cam and talked to you know, talk to

696
00:30:24,016 --> 00:30:26,456
Speaker 9: coach Blotty and you know, all those guys, and they

697
00:30:26,456 --> 00:30:28,496
Speaker 9: made me extremely comfortable and made.

698
00:30:28,416 --> 00:30:29,056
Speaker 8: Me feel at home.

699
00:30:29,256 --> 00:30:32,616
Speaker 9: They made me feel better about the fact that my

700
00:30:32,696 --> 00:30:34,936
Speaker 9: parents would want to watch me play. They made sure

701
00:30:34,976 --> 00:30:36,376
Speaker 9: they was going to get him out there and stuff

702
00:30:36,416 --> 00:30:38,936
Speaker 9: like that. So all that played a huge factor in

703
00:30:39,016 --> 00:30:41,096
Speaker 9: me and me deciding Forregan and choosing Forgan.

704
00:30:41,576 --> 00:30:43,296
Speaker 1: Whenever you go up and you are so far away

705
00:30:43,296 --> 00:30:46,656
Speaker 1: from home, is there an adjustment period to where because

706
00:30:46,776 --> 00:30:48,896
Speaker 1: naturally I think I would be homesick even when I

707
00:30:48,896 --> 00:30:50,856
Speaker 1: go to Oregon now for like three days from work,

708
00:30:51,176 --> 00:30:54,536
Speaker 1: like it feels that's way away from I'm from Arkansas.

709
00:30:54,576 --> 00:30:56,936
Speaker 7: I live in Nashville now, so Oregon's way up there. Man,

710
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,336
Speaker 7: was was there an adjustment period for you to not

711
00:30:59,456 --> 00:31:00,016
Speaker 7: be homesick?

712
00:31:00,296 --> 00:31:00,815
Speaker 8: Yeah? It was.

713
00:31:00,936 --> 00:31:03,496
Speaker 9: Man, It's different than Florida, that's the sure. I mean,

714
00:31:03,536 --> 00:31:06,816
Speaker 9: Florida gets all the all the different seasons and hurricanes

715
00:31:06,816 --> 00:31:09,296
Speaker 9: and stuff like that. But when I got there, it

716
00:31:09,336 --> 00:31:12,896
Speaker 9: was always rainy, it was always gray outside. I didn't

717
00:31:12,896 --> 00:31:16,976
Speaker 9: know a lot of people, So yeah, it was an adjustment.

718
00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,856
Speaker 9: I was pretty homestick. So it was a phone call

719
00:31:19,896 --> 00:31:22,855
Speaker 9: about almost daily with my mom and my dad saying, Man,

720
00:31:22,896 --> 00:31:24,456
Speaker 9: I just I don't know if I can do this,

721
00:31:25,096 --> 00:31:26,696
Speaker 9: you know, I'm I don't know if I can do this.

722
00:31:26,736 --> 00:31:27,616
Speaker 8: It's tough out here.

723
00:31:29,256 --> 00:31:31,216
Speaker 9: Things things that I got to do now I never

724
00:31:31,256 --> 00:31:33,456
Speaker 9: had to do in junior college.

725
00:31:33,776 --> 00:31:34,536
Speaker 8: And it was just tough.

726
00:31:34,536 --> 00:31:36,296
Speaker 9: Man, been out there by yourself, and you know, only

727
00:31:36,336 --> 00:31:38,656
Speaker 9: having friends, only having just a couple of friends. That's

728
00:31:39,176 --> 00:31:41,216
Speaker 9: you know, that can kind of relate because a lot

729
00:31:41,256 --> 00:31:43,336
Speaker 9: of those guys are from California and stuff like that.

730
00:31:43,936 --> 00:31:45,216
Speaker 7: Yeah, and your second year in Oregon.

731
00:31:45,256 --> 00:31:49,896
Speaker 4: Obviously you went through the adversity, the situation early early

732
00:31:49,936 --> 00:31:52,176
Speaker 4: in the season Boise State, which said dude came up

733
00:31:52,216 --> 00:31:53,816
Speaker 4: smacked his shoulder and you had to teach him a

734
00:31:53,896 --> 00:31:57,136
Speaker 4: lesson real quick. But talk to me about that season

735
00:31:57,136 --> 00:31:59,335
Speaker 4: because that had to be difficult, right, you had to.

736
00:31:59,536 --> 00:32:01,576
Speaker 4: You had the suspension, you had to serve the suspension.

737
00:32:01,616 --> 00:32:02,656
Speaker 4: It was going to be a big year. You were

738
00:32:02,656 --> 00:32:05,096
Speaker 4: going to be the dude. But what type of growth

739
00:32:05,136 --> 00:32:06,976
Speaker 4: did you find through that experience?

740
00:32:07,696 --> 00:32:09,776
Speaker 9: One thing I will say, man, that hit me hard

741
00:32:09,816 --> 00:32:12,976
Speaker 9: is you don't know everybody that's on your team and

742
00:32:13,016 --> 00:32:14,616
Speaker 9: team you know everybody that's on your team and that's

743
00:32:14,656 --> 00:32:18,216
Speaker 9: on your side. All the praises and stuff like that

744
00:32:18,376 --> 00:32:20,815
Speaker 9: was was cool and all, but when that hit, it

745
00:32:20,896 --> 00:32:22,736
Speaker 9: was it was a tough sledding and I only had

746
00:32:22,776 --> 00:32:25,256
Speaker 9: a handful of guys that that were on you know,

747
00:32:25,416 --> 00:32:29,336
Speaker 9: I felt like personally on my side with Eddie Pleasant

748
00:32:29,336 --> 00:32:32,696
Speaker 9: and TJ. Ward and Ed Dixon and you know a

749
00:32:32,696 --> 00:32:36,176
Speaker 9: handful of the other guys out there walk Thurman in

750
00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:38,616
Speaker 9: the list and the list goes on. Those are the

751
00:32:38,616 --> 00:32:40,096
Speaker 9: guys that I really talked to the most when I

752
00:32:40,176 --> 00:32:42,376
Speaker 9: was going through that, man, I wouldn't you know, I

753
00:32:42,376 --> 00:32:45,056
Speaker 9: stopped going to class because it was just such a

754
00:32:45,096 --> 00:32:45,576
Speaker 9: huge deal.

755
00:32:45,936 --> 00:32:50,176
Speaker 8: So I couldn't go to class anymore. And I mean all.

756
00:32:50,016 --> 00:32:51,696
Speaker 9: My all my guys just brought my you know, brought

757
00:32:51,736 --> 00:32:54,936
Speaker 9: my school stuff to me and kind of I kind

758
00:32:54,936 --> 00:32:57,896
Speaker 9: of submitted it through them as well. And I got

759
00:32:57,936 --> 00:32:59,855
Speaker 9: to a dark point where I didn't want to see anyone.

760
00:33:00,016 --> 00:33:02,256
Speaker 9: You know, I was only allowing one person to come

761
00:33:02,256 --> 00:33:04,336
Speaker 9: over to my house that you know at that point.

762
00:33:04,416 --> 00:33:05,776
Speaker 9: You know, that was Ed Dick and he was the

763
00:33:05,776 --> 00:33:07,496
Speaker 9: only person that was allowed to come over. I wasn't

764
00:33:07,536 --> 00:33:10,176
Speaker 9: trying to see anyone or anything like that. And uh,

765
00:33:10,296 --> 00:33:13,016
Speaker 9: it was tough, man, it was. I had ken Yon Barner.

766
00:33:13,016 --> 00:33:15,096
Speaker 9: I will say that, man, ken y'all was a huge

767
00:33:15,136 --> 00:33:15,616
Speaker 9: piece for me.

768
00:33:15,656 --> 00:33:15,816
Speaker 8: Man.

769
00:33:15,856 --> 00:33:20,416
Speaker 9: He let me, he let me vent to him. You know,

770
00:33:20,456 --> 00:33:22,936
Speaker 9: he cried with me. You know, he sympathized with me.

771
00:33:22,976 --> 00:33:26,536
Speaker 9: He understood. So I mean that was a tough transition, man.

772
00:33:26,576 --> 00:33:29,376
Speaker 9: But getting back was the bright light. I was still

773
00:33:29,376 --> 00:33:31,536
Speaker 9: able to practice, I was still able to go to everything.

774
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:34,176
Speaker 9: I just wasn't able to play on Saturdays. And the

775
00:33:34,216 --> 00:33:37,136
Speaker 9: suspension originally was for the rest of the year and

776
00:33:38,536 --> 00:33:41,216
Speaker 9: coach Me and coach Me and coach Kelly had a conversation.

777
00:33:41,416 --> 00:33:42,815
Speaker 9: You know, hey, man, how do we how do we

778
00:33:42,856 --> 00:33:44,216
Speaker 9: fix this? How do we lift this? How do we

779
00:33:44,216 --> 00:33:47,536
Speaker 9: figure out? YadA, YadA YadA. And then you know, there

780
00:33:47,576 --> 00:33:49,416
Speaker 9: was a couple of demands that I had to meet,

781
00:33:49,616 --> 00:33:52,096
Speaker 9: and I met those and he let me back. And

782
00:33:52,656 --> 00:33:54,936
Speaker 9: for about two or three games, I wasn't playing, like,

783
00:33:55,016 --> 00:33:58,416
Speaker 9: I just didn't play. And that was tough because at

784
00:33:58,416 --> 00:34:00,456
Speaker 9: that point I was eligible, you know, he hadn't brought

785
00:34:00,496 --> 00:34:02,336
Speaker 9: me back, so I was eligible, So that was really tough.

786
00:34:02,976 --> 00:34:04,536
Speaker 8: And then in the order State games.

787
00:34:04,296 --> 00:34:06,616
Speaker 9: When I actually got another shot at you know, going

788
00:34:06,656 --> 00:34:09,536
Speaker 9: back out there with my guys, So that was kind

789
00:34:09,536 --> 00:34:13,016
Speaker 9: of refreshing for me. It felt really really good. But

790
00:34:13,096 --> 00:34:14,136
Speaker 9: it was a tough time though.

791
00:34:14,576 --> 00:34:17,976
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had to explain because you

792
00:34:18,016 --> 00:34:20,056
Speaker 1: went undrafted? And I'm assuming a lot of that is

793
00:34:20,096 --> 00:34:22,216
Speaker 1: because of that situation, because obviously you were a beast

794
00:34:22,256 --> 00:34:24,496
Speaker 1: and you were awesome as a college player, But were

795
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,736
Speaker 1: you explaining to a lot of general were you explaining

796
00:34:26,776 --> 00:34:28,536
Speaker 1: to a lot of those general managers, Hey, look, I've

797
00:34:28,976 --> 00:34:30,616
Speaker 1: that that's not who I am, That's what I did

798
00:34:30,616 --> 00:34:32,296
Speaker 1: that one time, but that's not who I am. And

799
00:34:32,296 --> 00:34:34,736
Speaker 1: do you think that's what affected your overall like a

800
00:34:34,896 --> 00:34:36,176
Speaker 1: draft stock man?

801
00:34:36,216 --> 00:34:39,056
Speaker 9: You know what, I can't answer that question because I

802
00:34:39,056 --> 00:34:40,776
Speaker 9: don't know when I was one of my wanting to

803
00:34:40,856 --> 00:34:42,896
Speaker 9: my pre draft visits like at the Combine and stuff,

804
00:34:42,896 --> 00:34:45,336
Speaker 9: when I was talking to think I talked to the Steelers.

805
00:34:45,816 --> 00:34:47,576
Speaker 9: I might even talk to the Patriots, and I talked

806
00:34:47,576 --> 00:34:51,376
Speaker 9: to one other team, but they didn't really ask me

807
00:34:51,416 --> 00:34:54,776
Speaker 9: about that, like they more actually stuff like you know,

808
00:34:54,936 --> 00:34:57,296
Speaker 9: what kind of runs you like? Can you drop this protection?

809
00:34:57,536 --> 00:34:59,656
Speaker 9: Can you draw up this concept?

810
00:34:59,856 --> 00:35:00,056
Speaker 8: You know?

811
00:35:00,096 --> 00:35:02,296
Speaker 9: Can you block this? You know, that's really what the

812
00:35:02,296 --> 00:35:06,056
Speaker 9: conversations were. Not a lot of guys, I feel about that.

813
00:35:06,176 --> 00:35:07,936
Speaker 9: So I never really had to explain it to any

814
00:35:07,976 --> 00:35:11,376
Speaker 9: general managers or any coaches or anything like that, because

815
00:35:11,536 --> 00:35:14,416
Speaker 9: I guess that was I have no idea that I

816
00:35:14,456 --> 00:35:15,976
Speaker 9: don't know if that was the least of their worries,

817
00:35:16,136 --> 00:35:18,096
Speaker 9: you know, because you know, guys fought all.

818
00:35:17,976 --> 00:35:20,096
Speaker 8: The time or I don't have no idea, But I.

819
00:35:20,056 --> 00:35:22,176
Speaker 9: Never had to really explain the situation to any gems

820
00:35:22,256 --> 00:35:22,656
Speaker 9: or anything.

821
00:35:38,056 --> 00:35:41,216
Speaker 4: So you go undrafted, did you think, well, number one,

822
00:35:41,256 --> 00:35:43,296
Speaker 4: did you think you're gonna get drafted, but you go undrafted,

823
00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:46,336
Speaker 4: and you obviously go to Tennessee. What went into going

824
00:35:46,376 --> 00:35:48,096
Speaker 4: to Tennessee versus some of these other places?

825
00:35:49,176 --> 00:35:53,376
Speaker 9: So I, uh, the reason I chose Tennessee was originally

826
00:35:54,056 --> 00:35:57,616
Speaker 9: I had I had committed to the deal with the Niners.

827
00:35:57,816 --> 00:35:59,496
Speaker 9: This is sound crazy. It sounds like I am the

828
00:35:59,536 --> 00:36:04,416
Speaker 9: most unsure person ever. So and during the time I

829
00:36:04,456 --> 00:36:06,536
Speaker 9: didn't think I was going to get drafted, my agent

830
00:36:06,536 --> 00:36:08,696
Speaker 9: at the time was telling me like, hey, bro, you

831
00:36:08,736 --> 00:36:11,616
Speaker 9: know they're giving you a third round evaluation, you know,

832
00:36:11,976 --> 00:36:15,096
Speaker 9: fourth rown evaluation, which I'm you know, okay, that's cool.

833
00:36:15,096 --> 00:36:16,736
Speaker 9: I just want to I just want to go at

834
00:36:16,736 --> 00:36:19,896
Speaker 9: this point, and you know, you see it go slipping away,

835
00:36:20,016 --> 00:36:22,056
Speaker 9: and then you see these guys that get drafted before

836
00:36:22,096 --> 00:36:25,936
Speaker 9: you that you know, no knock against them, but they

837
00:36:26,056 --> 00:36:28,696
Speaker 9: they're nowhere near the caliber player that you are, and

838
00:36:29,336 --> 00:36:31,896
Speaker 9: you know they're getting the opportunities to get drafted. And

839
00:36:32,136 --> 00:36:36,056
Speaker 9: it's understandable, right you have if you're looking outside, if

840
00:36:36,056 --> 00:36:39,296
Speaker 9: you're outside looking in as a general manager that didn't

841
00:36:39,296 --> 00:36:41,376
Speaker 9: ask those questions and stuff, you're looking at this guy like,

842
00:36:41,416 --> 00:36:43,536
Speaker 9: oh my gosh, like am I going to be able

843
00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:47,456
Speaker 9: to handle him like YadA, YadA, YadA. But I told

844
00:36:47,536 --> 00:36:50,216
Speaker 9: coach Singletary of the forty nine ers. He called me

845
00:36:51,216 --> 00:36:54,296
Speaker 9: in the fifth or sixth round and he said, hey man,

846
00:36:54,536 --> 00:36:56,216
Speaker 9: we're looking to pick you up with this, you know,

847
00:36:56,296 --> 00:36:59,376
Speaker 9: with this next pick. I'm excited. I'm like, hell yeah,

848
00:36:59,496 --> 00:37:01,416
Speaker 9: let's do it, you know what I'm saying. And the

849
00:37:01,456 --> 00:37:04,136
Speaker 9: pick goes by it and they choose Anthony Dixon, running

850
00:37:04,136 --> 00:37:07,696
Speaker 9: back from Missisippi State. And then after the draft is over,

851
00:37:07,736 --> 00:37:09,336
Speaker 9: they called me like, hey man, we would love to

852
00:37:09,376 --> 00:37:11,496
Speaker 9: have you here. You know, we want to give you

853
00:37:11,576 --> 00:37:11,976
Speaker 9: a shot.

854
00:37:12,056 --> 00:37:12,216
Speaker 8: Man.

855
00:37:12,216 --> 00:37:14,696
Speaker 9: We think you're a great player, you know, the whole spield.

856
00:37:15,096 --> 00:37:18,616
Speaker 9: And I'm like, well, y'all just drafted Anthony Dixon after

857
00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:21,256
Speaker 9: calling me and telling me, y'all we want to draft me.

858
00:37:21,336 --> 00:37:23,856
Speaker 9: So it was not a backup plan or if he wasn't,

859
00:37:23,856 --> 00:37:24,776
Speaker 9: there was y'all gonna pick me?

860
00:37:24,856 --> 00:37:26,816
Speaker 8: Like, what was the what was the plan here? It

861
00:37:26,896 --> 00:37:28,376
Speaker 8: was like, man, we believe in you, we love you,

862
00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:28,856
Speaker 8: we love your.

863
00:37:28,816 --> 00:37:33,736
Speaker 9: Running style in courus coincides with what I believe as

864
00:37:33,736 --> 00:37:36,256
Speaker 9: the football player. Ya YadA YadA. So me and my

865
00:37:36,256 --> 00:37:38,176
Speaker 9: agent went on, we had to talk. Me and my

866
00:37:38,216 --> 00:37:41,416
Speaker 9: mom went for a long ass walk around the around

867
00:37:41,416 --> 00:37:45,376
Speaker 9: the around the you know, the neighborhood. And I came

868
00:37:45,416 --> 00:37:48,456
Speaker 9: back and talked to my agent and they, you know, say,

869
00:37:48,496 --> 00:37:51,976
Speaker 9: the Tennessee Titans want you as well. Jeff Fisher, we

870
00:37:52,056 --> 00:37:54,656
Speaker 9: had that conversation. I was like, hey man, I want

871
00:37:54,656 --> 00:37:56,896
Speaker 9: to call for Singletary and Arry tell him like, hey man,

872
00:37:56,936 --> 00:37:58,216
Speaker 9: I don't know if I'm I'm gonna be able to

873
00:37:58,216 --> 00:38:01,056
Speaker 9: make that decision because come to come there, because I

874
00:38:01,056 --> 00:38:03,496
Speaker 9: don't I don't know if you're gonna be honest and

875
00:38:03,496 --> 00:38:08,336
Speaker 9: truthful with me considering how to draft unfold. And we

876
00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:10,456
Speaker 9: called him and we told him, and he, you know,

877
00:38:10,776 --> 00:38:15,416
Speaker 9: he kind of I'm pretty sure he hung up on us.

878
00:38:15,736 --> 00:38:17,536
Speaker 9: And then I called Jim Fisher back and I'm like,

879
00:38:17,536 --> 00:38:19,296
Speaker 9: hey man, I'm coming to Tennessee. And you know, he's

880
00:38:19,296 --> 00:38:21,576
Speaker 9: found of like you know, a kid in the candy store,

881
00:38:21,736 --> 00:38:23,576
Speaker 9: like man, hell yeah, d da da dah, you know.

882
00:38:23,616 --> 00:38:25,176
Speaker 8: And I was just had to play with Friz Johnson.

883
00:38:25,256 --> 00:38:27,856
Speaker 9: So that's kind of how that whole story unfolded.

884
00:38:28,336 --> 00:38:30,776
Speaker 1: When you go to Tampa, it's like I'm finally able

885
00:38:30,776 --> 00:38:31,536
Speaker 1: to play at home.

886
00:38:31,656 --> 00:38:32,776
Speaker 7: Our family can watch me.

887
00:38:33,256 --> 00:38:35,536
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was I ain't gonna lie that was That

888
00:38:35,576 --> 00:38:37,376
Speaker 9: was the highlight of my career because I was that's

889
00:38:37,416 --> 00:38:39,616
Speaker 9: only about three and a half two and a half

890
00:38:39,656 --> 00:38:40,776
Speaker 9: three hours away.

891
00:38:40,496 --> 00:38:41,856
Speaker 8: From where where I grew up at.

892
00:38:41,936 --> 00:38:45,176
Speaker 9: So I loved it, you know, I enjoyed it.

893
00:38:45,256 --> 00:38:46,376
Speaker 8: I was It was the.

894
00:38:46,376 --> 00:38:48,376
Speaker 9: First time I had ever played, like in the same

895
00:38:48,856 --> 00:38:51,016
Speaker 9: state as my you know, as my family being able

896
00:38:51,016 --> 00:38:52,056
Speaker 9: to watch since high school.

897
00:38:52,456 --> 00:38:54,736
Speaker 4: And you ran for a thousand yards that year, right,

898
00:38:54,776 --> 00:38:56,696
Speaker 4: you ran for a thousand yards and set.

899
00:38:56,456 --> 00:38:59,416
Speaker 9: There with a big as one hundred and eighty feet

900
00:39:00,376 --> 00:39:04,856
Speaker 9: New York style band on the side of the football

901
00:39:04,856 --> 00:39:05,936
Speaker 9: stadium with me on it.

902
00:39:05,936 --> 00:39:06,696
Speaker 8: It was pretty cool.

903
00:39:08,536 --> 00:39:11,576
Speaker 4: So did you know so at that point when that happens,

904
00:39:11,656 --> 00:39:13,656
Speaker 4: right so early in your career, did you know that

905
00:39:13,696 --> 00:39:16,176
Speaker 4: you arrived at that point and you're like, okay, seem

906
00:39:16,496 --> 00:39:19,656
Speaker 4: it was part of it. The motivation of proving everybody wrong,

907
00:39:20,136 --> 00:39:24,856
Speaker 4: of saying, look, I went undrafted Titans, they let me

908
00:39:24,936 --> 00:39:27,496
Speaker 4: go Tampa Bay. Gives me my opportunity, and now I've

909
00:39:27,536 --> 00:39:29,896
Speaker 4: got this stage where I can prove to everybody I'm

910
00:39:29,936 --> 00:39:31,256
Speaker 4: the player that I thought I was.

911
00:39:31,776 --> 00:39:33,576
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, it did give me a lot of validation.

912
00:39:35,536 --> 00:39:37,976
Speaker 9: I never really had any doubt in my skill set

913
00:39:38,256 --> 00:39:40,696
Speaker 9: and how good I could how good I could be.

914
00:39:41,536 --> 00:39:43,936
Speaker 9: But I did have, you know, some doubt in my

915
00:39:44,056 --> 00:39:47,176
Speaker 9: mind that people didn't trust the fact that you know,

916
00:39:47,376 --> 00:39:48,776
Speaker 9: I was going to be able to come in and

917
00:39:48,816 --> 00:39:51,696
Speaker 9: contribute and you know, keep it together if things don't

918
00:39:51,736 --> 00:39:52,736
Speaker 9: go right and things like that.

919
00:39:52,816 --> 00:39:55,496
Speaker 8: So I think that played a big factor in some

920
00:39:55,536 --> 00:39:56,176
Speaker 8: of those things.

921
00:39:56,216 --> 00:39:59,736
Speaker 9: But I did feel good about myself, man, because I

922
00:39:59,776 --> 00:40:01,176
Speaker 9: was in the backfield with a guy that had just

923
00:40:01,216 --> 00:40:03,936
Speaker 9: wrong rokie, that had one Rookie of the Year while

924
00:40:03,936 --> 00:40:08,056
Speaker 9: he was there, Cadillac Williams right Auburn, Auburn Auburn Beasts,

925
00:40:09,616 --> 00:40:13,096
Speaker 9: one of the best college football running backs in ever history,

926
00:40:13,256 --> 00:40:16,536
Speaker 9: in my opinion, and you know, he was the rookie

927
00:40:16,536 --> 00:40:18,176
Speaker 9: of the year. And I came in behind him, and

928
00:40:18,176 --> 00:40:19,856
Speaker 9: he took me up under his wing him and earned

929
00:40:19,856 --> 00:40:21,856
Speaker 9: his grand as a Forida Gator guy.

930
00:40:21,896 --> 00:40:22,936
Speaker 8: Man, Hey, shout out e g.

931
00:40:25,016 --> 00:40:27,456
Speaker 9: He's I love them Gators, man, But I earned his

932
00:40:27,496 --> 00:40:29,335
Speaker 9: Graham and Cadillac took me up under their wing men.

933
00:40:29,256 --> 00:40:32,416
Speaker 8: And they they it took me to dinners. I didn't

934
00:40:32,416 --> 00:40:32,656
Speaker 8: have to.

935
00:40:32,696 --> 00:40:34,256
Speaker 9: I didn't have to do the rookie dinner stuff, so

936
00:40:34,256 --> 00:40:36,096
Speaker 9: I didn't have to spend all my undrafted money I

937
00:40:36,096 --> 00:40:37,776
Speaker 9: didn't have but like a couple of thousand dollars, so

938
00:40:37,856 --> 00:40:39,416
Speaker 9: I probably would have been broke after one nail.

939
00:40:40,016 --> 00:40:42,815
Speaker 8: But I mean they took me up under their wing

940
00:40:43,016 --> 00:40:45,536
Speaker 8: and it Cadillac was good to me.

941
00:40:45,656 --> 00:40:49,296
Speaker 9: Even though they transitioned into me being the starting back

942
00:40:49,376 --> 00:40:52,256
Speaker 9: that was getting most of the carries. He didn't hurt

943
00:40:52,496 --> 00:40:55,496
Speaker 9: He didn't like hamper like or hurt like my development.

944
00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:57,416
Speaker 9: He actually just helped me a lot, and everything that

945
00:40:57,456 --> 00:40:59,496
Speaker 9: I needed help with he was. It was as help

946
00:40:59,656 --> 00:41:02,096
Speaker 9: helpful as he possibly be. So it was a good

947
00:41:02,136 --> 00:41:02,936
Speaker 9: time in Tampa.

948
00:41:02,976 --> 00:41:04,456
Speaker 8: Man, I'm not gonna lie. I liked it at there.

949
00:41:04,776 --> 00:41:06,656
Speaker 1: So I've heard a lot of Patriots stories from from

950
00:41:06,736 --> 00:41:08,816
Speaker 1: Castle because obviously he played on them for a long time.

951
00:41:08,856 --> 00:41:10,496
Speaker 1: And he said, you guys did not cross paths in

952
00:41:10,496 --> 00:41:13,016
Speaker 1: New England. At least you guys didn't cross pass uh

953
00:41:13,176 --> 00:41:15,656
Speaker 1: until later in you guys his career. But what was

954
00:41:15,696 --> 00:41:18,416
Speaker 1: the first like Patriots moment where you're you're with the

955
00:41:18,416 --> 00:41:21,416
Speaker 1: Patriots and you're like, oh, this organization is different.

956
00:41:22,816 --> 00:41:24,696
Speaker 7: He's got a big smile on his face.

957
00:41:26,896 --> 00:41:29,256
Speaker 9: So one of the one of the one of the

958
00:41:29,496 --> 00:41:34,136
Speaker 9: I'll say, one of the biggest changes for me was

959
00:41:34,176 --> 00:41:35,856
Speaker 9: the fact that you go into a meeting, and I

960
00:41:35,856 --> 00:41:37,296
Speaker 9: didn't know this at the time.

961
00:41:37,376 --> 00:41:40,016
Speaker 8: So you go into a meeting and.

962
00:41:39,896 --> 00:41:43,456
Speaker 9: You have your notes ready, and you know you're looking

963
00:41:43,496 --> 00:41:45,456
Speaker 9: at them, and you know, everybody's just kind of taking

964
00:41:45,456 --> 00:41:47,096
Speaker 9: out their notes, and I'm just kind of looking brown

965
00:41:47,976 --> 00:41:49,776
Speaker 9: because in the off season I got there. I got

966
00:41:49,776 --> 00:41:53,016
Speaker 9: traded in the off season, so everybody's OTA's and off

967
00:41:53,016 --> 00:41:54,656
Speaker 9: season workouts and all that stuff.

968
00:41:54,456 --> 00:41:54,856
Speaker 8: Is the same.

969
00:41:56,096 --> 00:41:57,896
Speaker 9: But when you get to the meeting room and you

970
00:41:58,136 --> 00:42:00,896
Speaker 9: about to play a team or whatever, even in the preseason,

971
00:42:01,016 --> 00:42:03,936
Speaker 9: you know, Bill always ask these questions like, who's the

972
00:42:03,976 --> 00:42:07,456
Speaker 9: second stream linebacker? If this guy goes down, who's the

973
00:42:07,536 --> 00:42:10,576
Speaker 9: third string defensive end, If this guy goes down, who's

974
00:42:10,616 --> 00:42:12,976
Speaker 9: a defensive coordinator? Where did he go? Where did he

975
00:42:13,016 --> 00:42:15,416
Speaker 9: come from? Did he is this his first year there?

976
00:42:15,496 --> 00:42:17,736
Speaker 9: Did he come from college? Did he come from high school?

977
00:42:18,216 --> 00:42:22,776
Speaker 9: And up until that point, I had never had those questions.

978
00:42:23,416 --> 00:42:23,576
Speaker 8: Never.

979
00:42:24,216 --> 00:42:26,496
Speaker 9: I've never had done with dealt with that before. So

980
00:42:27,096 --> 00:42:28,336
Speaker 9: I had to kind of get on my p's and

981
00:42:28,416 --> 00:42:31,536
Speaker 9: q's on that. But man, that's like a it's like

982
00:42:31,576 --> 00:42:33,416
Speaker 9: a man, it was different, you know what I'm saying.

983
00:42:33,456 --> 00:42:35,416
Speaker 9: It was definitely different. Even the field going into the

984
00:42:35,456 --> 00:42:38,016
Speaker 9: building was different. I'm not gonna lie like you going

985
00:42:38,096 --> 00:42:39,856
Speaker 9: to Tampa. You know, you guys are high five and

986
00:42:40,136 --> 00:42:41,016
Speaker 9: oh what's up dog?

987
00:42:41,096 --> 00:42:43,576
Speaker 8: And da dah. You know where you know, you go

988
00:42:43,616 --> 00:42:44,296
Speaker 8: into the locker room.

989
00:42:44,336 --> 00:42:46,176
Speaker 9: You can tell your music owner you could chill and

990
00:42:46,216 --> 00:42:48,776
Speaker 9: you could you know, hey, FaceTime and.

991
00:42:48,736 --> 00:42:51,576
Speaker 8: All this stuff. And you go to New England District

992
00:42:51,576 --> 00:42:52,216
Speaker 8: of Business.

993
00:42:52,256 --> 00:42:55,496
Speaker 9: You know, no phones allowed or videos, like no videos

994
00:42:55,576 --> 00:43:00,336
Speaker 9: or pictures of out in the locker room entertaining each

995
00:43:00,376 --> 00:43:04,056
Speaker 9: other basically, And yeah, man, those are those are some

996
00:43:04,136 --> 00:43:06,536
Speaker 9: of the some of the biggest turning points for me.

997
00:43:06,616 --> 00:43:07,976
Speaker 8: Man, those are those were different.

998
00:43:08,096 --> 00:43:10,335
Speaker 7: I've been in that seat before. The anxiety a better

999
00:43:10,336 --> 00:43:12,216
Speaker 7: player though. It does know the.

1000
00:43:12,096 --> 00:43:14,496
Speaker 4: Anxiety though that you have going in that meeting room

1001
00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:17,416
Speaker 4: when he's when he's calling dudes out and goes, what

1002
00:43:17,456 --> 00:43:19,936
Speaker 4: the f castle You don't know who the backup like

1003
00:43:20,056 --> 00:43:23,376
Speaker 4: linebacker is or what what's their favorite blitz on third down?

1004
00:43:23,416 --> 00:43:26,176
Speaker 4: You're like, it's Wednesday, we haven't even started third down

1005
00:43:26,256 --> 00:43:28,776
Speaker 4: yet and you're just sitting there in a full panic.

1006
00:43:28,816 --> 00:43:31,736
Speaker 4: But you see guys sweating that meeting. But what it

1007
00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:35,136
Speaker 4: does do, like you said, it makes you accountable because

1008
00:43:35,256 --> 00:43:37,336
Speaker 4: you start to study that stuff because you don't want

1009
00:43:37,336 --> 00:43:39,416
Speaker 4: to be embarrassed in front of your teammates. And it's

1010
00:43:39,736 --> 00:43:42,256
Speaker 4: as well of those situations where you're like, man, this

1011
00:43:42,336 --> 00:43:43,856
Speaker 4: is this is a good grind.

1012
00:43:43,496 --> 00:43:46,696
Speaker 7: But okay, well let's do it. I mean, all right,

1013
00:43:46,736 --> 00:43:47,856
Speaker 7: so you look.

1014
00:43:48,416 --> 00:43:50,776
Speaker 9: Over at there, I look at James, and I look

1015
00:43:50,816 --> 00:43:52,736
Speaker 9: at James James or you know, I look at Brandon

1016
00:43:52,736 --> 00:43:54,616
Speaker 9: Boder because those guys are there before me. You know

1017
00:43:54,656 --> 00:43:56,416
Speaker 9: what I'm saying that Shane Bereen and those guys. So

1018
00:43:56,496 --> 00:43:59,016
Speaker 9: I'm looking like when he asked me those questions, like

1019
00:43:59,016 --> 00:44:01,296
Speaker 9: I got the decordinator, Okay, I got the O coordinator,

1020
00:44:01,296 --> 00:44:04,216
Speaker 9: I got the special teams coordinator, I got these guys,

1021
00:44:04,216 --> 00:44:07,416
Speaker 9: and then he'll ask a question out of everything you

1022
00:44:07,456 --> 00:44:09,696
Speaker 9: wrote to ask you a question that you don't.

1023
00:44:09,456 --> 00:44:09,976
Speaker 8: Have on that.

1024
00:44:12,256 --> 00:44:19,776
Speaker 9: And I'm like, I'm like, uh, James, hey, his name

1025
00:44:19,856 --> 00:44:20,496
Speaker 9: is Mike Joe.

1026
00:44:22,496 --> 00:44:25,376
Speaker 8: Got lg Uh.

1027
00:44:25,416 --> 00:44:29,056
Speaker 4: So, I mean, it's pretty incredible what you were able

1028
00:44:29,096 --> 00:44:31,336
Speaker 4: to achieve. But you obviously are one of the only

1029
00:44:31,376 --> 00:44:33,696
Speaker 4: players in the history to win three Super Bowls. But

1030
00:44:34,016 --> 00:44:37,296
Speaker 4: you won Super Bowls back to back with two different organizations.

1031
00:44:37,296 --> 00:44:39,616
Speaker 4: Does one of the Super Bowl championships stand out to you.

1032
00:44:40,016 --> 00:44:40,176
Speaker 8: Man.

1033
00:44:40,256 --> 00:44:44,096
Speaker 9: I'm I'm on record saying this a lot, but man,

1034
00:44:44,096 --> 00:44:45,296
Speaker 9: that Eagles one is different.

1035
00:44:45,416 --> 00:44:45,616
Speaker 8: You know.

1036
00:44:46,896 --> 00:44:50,536
Speaker 9: It was a fun full year. Like it wasn't like, oh,

1037
00:44:50,656 --> 00:44:53,176
Speaker 9: let's just have fun now, Like it was a full

1038
00:44:53,336 --> 00:44:56,376
Speaker 9: year of we're gonna we're gonna put this work in.

1039
00:44:56,736 --> 00:44:59,376
Speaker 9: We're gonna work hard as we can. We know what

1040
00:44:59,456 --> 00:45:01,576
Speaker 9: kind of team we have, we know we have the

1041
00:45:01,616 --> 00:45:05,216
Speaker 9: opportunity to make it work. Let's just grind, grind, grind,

1042
00:45:05,896 --> 00:45:10,856
Speaker 9: and it's not always going to be you know, it's

1043
00:45:10,896 --> 00:45:12,616
Speaker 9: not always going to be that, you know. So we

1044
00:45:13,096 --> 00:45:15,416
Speaker 9: just we grinded out and we have fun and we

1045
00:45:15,456 --> 00:45:17,616
Speaker 9: played basketball in the locker room, and we listen to

1046
00:45:17,736 --> 00:45:20,016
Speaker 9: music and we play pool and all that stuff. But

1047
00:45:20,056 --> 00:45:21,736
Speaker 9: we always knew that it was time to put the

1048
00:45:21,776 --> 00:45:23,696
Speaker 9: work in. And that's what I like. And I even

1049
00:45:23,736 --> 00:45:27,136
Speaker 9: had fun at practices like that's you don't never have

1050
00:45:27,216 --> 00:45:29,976
Speaker 9: fun at practice. It's like, bro, damn, here we go again.

1051
00:45:30,016 --> 00:45:31,616
Speaker 9: We're out here. You know, it's a money and ten

1052
00:45:31,736 --> 00:45:34,136
Speaker 9: or it's sixty. It's you know, sometimes just you know whatever,

1053
00:45:34,496 --> 00:45:37,536
Speaker 9: But I have fun at practice. Man, Doug was awesome.

1054
00:45:37,736 --> 00:45:41,456
Speaker 9: Doug and Howie are awesome, and they showed me love

1055
00:45:41,496 --> 00:45:43,736
Speaker 9: and they believed in me in the entire season. And

1056
00:45:43,776 --> 00:45:45,976
Speaker 9: they told me once we got into the playoffs in

1057
00:45:46,016 --> 00:45:48,816
Speaker 9: the in the super Bowl, like man, we're going to

1058
00:45:48,936 --> 00:45:51,416
Speaker 9: Roger to the Will's fall off in the postseason. And

1059
00:45:51,696 --> 00:45:55,136
Speaker 9: that gave me the confidence Like, okay, because you're going

1060
00:45:55,176 --> 00:45:57,896
Speaker 9: to the game confident in New England, Bro, But it's different.

1061
00:45:58,656 --> 00:46:01,296
Speaker 9: You go to the playoffs confident. But it's different. You

1062
00:46:01,336 --> 00:46:03,656
Speaker 9: walk on eggshells because if you make a mistake as

1063
00:46:03,696 --> 00:46:05,936
Speaker 9: a back, not as a quarterback. You know what I'm saying,

1064
00:46:05,936 --> 00:46:07,416
Speaker 9: But if you make a mistake as a back, Bro,

1065
00:46:07,776 --> 00:46:10,776
Speaker 9: you might not get no more carries that game. You

1066
00:46:10,856 --> 00:46:13,616
Speaker 9: might not might not even go back in you know

1067
00:46:13,616 --> 00:46:15,936
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. So but but in but in Philly,

1068
00:46:16,096 --> 00:46:18,656
Speaker 9: they allowed you to make mistakes and not.

1069
00:46:18,736 --> 00:46:21,136
Speaker 8: Be like I'm not going to play again. They allowed

1070
00:46:21,216 --> 00:46:21,936
Speaker 8: me to like I.

1071
00:46:21,856 --> 00:46:23,456
Speaker 9: Didn't make a lot of mistakes while I was there,

1072
00:46:23,536 --> 00:46:25,976
Speaker 9: but you can play more loose, if that makes sense.

1073
00:46:26,896 --> 00:46:30,576
Speaker 1: One final question, when you go to Philly after winning

1074
00:46:30,616 --> 00:46:34,136
Speaker 1: the title with New England, was there an expectation of

1075
00:46:34,616 --> 00:46:36,576
Speaker 1: you just want a championship, We want you to bring

1076
00:46:36,616 --> 00:46:39,136
Speaker 1: some championship culture to Philadelphia.

1077
00:46:39,216 --> 00:46:42,336
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh yeah, there was, yeah, there was. There was.

1078
00:46:42,736 --> 00:46:46,216
Speaker 9: Well, another guy that actually was on that team was

1079
00:46:46,296 --> 00:46:48,816
Speaker 9: Chris Long. Had just came from New England with me,

1080
00:46:50,096 --> 00:46:53,936
Speaker 9: And the funny story about that is how we asked

1081
00:46:53,976 --> 00:46:58,976
Speaker 9: Chris Long about me. Fridge Long vouts for me and

1082
00:46:59,016 --> 00:47:01,216
Speaker 9: then he told me. He hit me up and said, hey, bro,

1083
00:47:02,256 --> 00:47:04,456
Speaker 9: come to Philly. I don't know if I still have

1084
00:47:04,456 --> 00:47:06,776
Speaker 9: to taxt message or phone call log or whatever, but

1085
00:47:06,776 --> 00:47:08,656
Speaker 9: he hit me up and basically said, come to Philly, bro,

1086
00:47:09,696 --> 00:47:13,216
Speaker 9: It's amazing here. They've been asking me about you. They

1087
00:47:13,256 --> 00:47:15,136
Speaker 9: love you here. Come to Philly.

1088
00:47:15,296 --> 00:47:18,136
Speaker 8: I'm like, well, man, they they ain't calling me, you know.

1089
00:47:18,216 --> 00:47:20,896
Speaker 9: They This is around the weird time that Bill had

1090
00:47:20,936 --> 00:47:22,736
Speaker 9: put that weird tender on me. If you guys look

1091
00:47:22,776 --> 00:47:25,216
Speaker 9: it up, you'll find like that weird crazy tender where

1092
00:47:25,216 --> 00:47:27,855
Speaker 9: it was like I rest for eleven hundred and twelve

1093
00:47:27,896 --> 00:47:30,736
Speaker 9: hundred yards and seventeen or eighteen touchdowns or whatever, and

1094
00:47:30,776 --> 00:47:34,256
Speaker 9: they I was filling all these phone calls and then

1095
00:47:35,176 --> 00:47:37,096
Speaker 9: all of a sudden they stopped, and then I see

1096
00:47:37,136 --> 00:47:39,335
Speaker 9: this thing come out saying, oh, the Patriots have put

1097
00:47:39,376 --> 00:47:41,936
Speaker 9: this rare tender on the Garrett Blunt that hasn't been

1098
00:47:42,016 --> 00:47:43,456
Speaker 9: used since nineteen seventy.

1099
00:47:44,176 --> 00:47:48,376
Speaker 4: Only Bill would find that because because they want to

1100
00:47:48,416 --> 00:47:49,216
Speaker 4: have compensation.

1101
00:47:49,336 --> 00:47:50,216
Speaker 8: You know how it goes, Matt.

1102
00:47:50,456 --> 00:47:53,256
Speaker 9: If you ball out and you're you become a free agent,

1103
00:47:53,656 --> 00:47:56,376
Speaker 9: and if you do something with a team, the team

1104
00:47:56,376 --> 00:47:58,456
Speaker 9: that you come from got to get compensated still even

1105
00:47:58,496 --> 00:48:01,616
Speaker 9: though you're a free agent. So he found that, he

1106
00:48:01,696 --> 00:48:06,416
Speaker 9: found that car somewhere, and I mean, and you had

1107
00:48:06,496 --> 00:48:09,296
Speaker 9: four or five teams back out and Philly stood is strong.

1108
00:48:09,336 --> 00:48:11,416
Speaker 9: It was like, bro, we'll give up that draft pick

1109
00:48:11,496 --> 00:48:14,256
Speaker 9: or whatever we have to give up for him. That's cool.

1110
00:48:14,496 --> 00:48:16,336
Speaker 9: So that was that was that was pretty tight, man.

1111
00:48:16,376 --> 00:48:18,576
Speaker 9: That was I love Feeling's organization.

1112
00:48:18,656 --> 00:48:18,776
Speaker 8: Man.

1113
00:48:18,776 --> 00:48:20,936
Speaker 9: I'm not saying it's better than New England's by any by,

1114
00:48:21,096 --> 00:48:22,696
Speaker 9: by any way of the word.

1115
00:48:22,816 --> 00:48:24,176
Speaker 8: But that year that I.

1116
00:48:24,176 --> 00:48:26,855
Speaker 9: Was there was extremely fun. I had fourteen carries, ninety

1117
00:48:26,896 --> 00:48:28,216
Speaker 9: one yards and a touchdown.

1118
00:48:28,816 --> 00:48:30,296
Speaker 8: Like it was great. It was great.

1119
00:48:30,696 --> 00:48:33,056
Speaker 1: Well, good luck Mountain Point, right, Mountain Point. That's what

1120
00:48:33,096 --> 00:48:38,176
Speaker 1: it is, right, Mountain Pride, Mountain Pride. We really appreciate

1121
00:48:38,216 --> 00:48:41,456
Speaker 1: the time you guys follow the LG. Blunt and hey

1122
00:48:41,576 --> 00:48:44,496
Speaker 1: love watching you appreciate your time and hope you guys

1123
00:48:44,536 --> 00:48:46,216
Speaker 1: have a great, healthy rest of your season this year.

1124
00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:46,496
Speaker 7: Coach.

1125
00:48:46,736 --> 00:48:48,456
Speaker 8: I appreciate you, guys, man. Thanks man.

1126
00:48:48,456 --> 00:48:55,376
Speaker 9: I appreciate you guys having me own. Hey, Andrew, Bobby, Brandy, Kevin, everybody, Matt,

1127
00:48:55,736 --> 00:48:57,216
Speaker 9: my guys. I appreciate you guys.

1128
00:48:57,216 --> 00:48:57,416
Speaker 5: Man.

1129
00:48:57,456 --> 00:48:59,896
Speaker 9: Thanks, thanks a lot, Man. Always a pleasure anytime you

1130
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:01,256
Speaker 9: need me. Matt, you know you can get a hold

1131
00:49:01,256 --> 00:49:01,616
Speaker 9: of your brother.

1132
00:49:01,736 --> 00:49:03,216
Speaker 7: I appreciate you, Bro. Thanks again.

1133
00:49:03,296 --> 00:49:13,696
Speaker 5: Good to see if yet there? All right, see you guys.

1134
00:49:20,616 --> 00:49:21,976
Speaker 7: All right, let's do our final topic.

1135
00:49:22,056 --> 00:49:24,936
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go the quarterback situation in San Francisco. I'm

1136
00:49:24,976 --> 00:49:26,776
Speaker 1: the forty nine or of five and two with Mac

1137
00:49:26,856 --> 00:49:31,336
Speaker 1: Jones as their starting quarterback. As a Patriots fan, Kevin

1138
00:49:31,696 --> 00:49:34,776
Speaker 1: an only fan, not that you subscribe to his only fans,

1139
00:49:35,816 --> 00:49:40,896
Speaker 1: but you didn't play for Yes, yes, does it drive

1140
00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:43,616
Speaker 1: you a little crazy to see Mac Jones being successful

1141
00:49:43,816 --> 00:49:45,896
Speaker 1: since you're a Pats fan and he really wasn't there.

1142
00:49:46,016 --> 00:49:48,016
Speaker 2: It did at first, but I think I've come to

1143
00:49:48,056 --> 00:49:52,376
Speaker 2: the realization that our coaching was that bad offensively while

1144
00:49:52,376 --> 00:49:55,216
Speaker 2: he was there, when he had Matt Patricia as his coordinator,

1145
00:49:55,616 --> 00:49:58,616
Speaker 2: and just everything around him was just that bad. I'm like, wow,

1146
00:49:58,736 --> 00:50:00,416
Speaker 2: I knew it was bad, but now you've really seen

1147
00:50:00,416 --> 00:50:00,976
Speaker 2: how bad it was.

1148
00:50:01,176 --> 00:50:03,736
Speaker 1: If I'm correct, and Bill Belichick has a history of

1149
00:50:03,816 --> 00:50:07,056
Speaker 1: not drafting the best. I believe Belichick drafted him as

1150
00:50:07,096 --> 00:50:08,176
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Mike Jones.

1151
00:50:09,016 --> 00:50:11,656
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah like that.

1152
00:50:11,776 --> 00:50:14,896
Speaker 4: Yeah, like walk up three to four linebacker that can

1153
00:50:14,936 --> 00:50:16,616
Speaker 4: come rush on third down for sure.

1154
00:50:16,976 --> 00:50:20,336
Speaker 1: Eighteen hundred passing yards, ten touchdowns, only five interceptions. He's

1155
00:50:20,376 --> 00:50:22,815
Speaker 1: got a QBR in ninety three. Even from this last

1156
00:50:22,856 --> 00:50:26,216
Speaker 1: game he was nineteen to twenty four, two touchdowns, no interceptions.

1157
00:50:26,736 --> 00:50:34,856
Speaker 1: So Mac Jones good or Shanahan great or combination of both.

1158
00:50:35,096 --> 00:50:36,335
Speaker 7: I think a combination of both.

1159
00:50:36,696 --> 00:50:39,976
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's one of the best offensive coordinators and the

1160
00:50:40,176 --> 00:50:43,336
Speaker 4: offensive minds, I should say in the sport today.

1161
00:50:43,616 --> 00:50:45,376
Speaker 7: And he's he's proven.

1162
00:50:45,096 --> 00:50:48,296
Speaker 4: That year in year out just the way that he

1163
00:50:48,456 --> 00:50:51,136
Speaker 4: runs his offensive system. And you could tell that it

1164
00:50:51,216 --> 00:50:54,456
Speaker 4: is a quarterback friendly system. It's a rhythm based system.

1165
00:50:54,696 --> 00:50:56,216
Speaker 4: So the ball is going to come out. He's going

1166
00:50:56,296 --> 00:50:58,936
Speaker 4: to have you coached up and understand it's footwork based, right,

1167
00:50:58,936 --> 00:51:01,216
Speaker 4: So you're hitting number five, you're letting the ball rip

1168
00:51:01,336 --> 00:51:03,376
Speaker 4: and if you're taking a hitch. You're getting to number two.

1169
00:51:03,616 --> 00:51:05,896
Speaker 4: So he coaches the hell out of the those guys.

1170
00:51:06,096 --> 00:51:09,016
Speaker 4: What's really impressive to me, I also believe for Mac

1171
00:51:09,096 --> 00:51:12,176
Speaker 4: Jones and to talk about him being he's been really

1172
00:51:12,216 --> 00:51:14,816
Speaker 4: good stepping into this role is they've had a ton

1173
00:51:14,856 --> 00:51:18,976
Speaker 4: of injuries at the skill position players wide receiver Kittle

1174
00:51:19,056 --> 00:51:22,056
Speaker 4: was out for a while, but they always also, I

1175
00:51:22,096 --> 00:51:24,576
Speaker 4: feel like have an identity and that offense runs through

1176
00:51:24,616 --> 00:51:25,456
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey.

1177
00:51:25,496 --> 00:51:26,376
Speaker 7: But even if you.

1178
00:51:26,336 --> 00:51:30,176
Speaker 4: Watch the game last this last week, he was in rhythm.

1179
00:51:30,496 --> 00:51:33,736
Speaker 4: He's deadly accurate. He's tough as nails because he's been

1180
00:51:33,816 --> 00:51:36,416
Speaker 4: beat up this season as well, but he just makes

1181
00:51:36,456 --> 00:51:39,736
Speaker 4: play after play and he's been consistent. And that's what

1182
00:51:39,936 --> 00:51:43,856
Speaker 4: If you're that in Kyle Shanahan's offense, you'll have success.

1183
00:51:43,936 --> 00:51:45,736
Speaker 4: And he's shown that time and time again. So I

1184
00:51:45,736 --> 00:51:48,976
Speaker 4: think it's the brilliance of Kyle Shanahan that offensive structure,

1185
00:51:49,136 --> 00:51:51,256
Speaker 4: but it's also Mac Jones is a good quarterback and

1186
00:51:51,296 --> 00:51:54,576
Speaker 4: he was putting, you know, Dalton unfair hand early in

1187
00:51:54,656 --> 00:51:56,056
Speaker 4: his tenure with the Patriots.

1188
00:51:56,576 --> 00:52:01,176
Speaker 1: Brock Party's injury status is weird, becaus I don't think

1189
00:52:01,256 --> 00:52:04,096
Speaker 1: that they thought the injury was as severe, and I

1190
00:52:04,136 --> 00:52:06,256
Speaker 1: think now it's severe because they would have put him

1191
00:52:06,256 --> 00:52:06,616
Speaker 1: on the IR.

1192
00:52:07,016 --> 00:52:07,176
Speaker 7: Right.

1193
00:52:07,616 --> 00:52:10,296
Speaker 4: I feel the same way because you go back Burrow

1194
00:52:10,376 --> 00:52:13,016
Speaker 4: had what the same kind of toe injury, and they

1195
00:52:13,096 --> 00:52:15,736
Speaker 4: immediately said, look, he's going on IR for the year.

1196
00:52:16,256 --> 00:52:18,576
Speaker 4: So I think that they're trying to figure out whether

1197
00:52:18,696 --> 00:52:20,855
Speaker 4: or not eventually they can get it to a point

1198
00:52:20,856 --> 00:52:21,816
Speaker 4: where he can go.

1199
00:52:22,696 --> 00:52:25,296
Speaker 7: I just just don't know how prolonged it will be.

1200
00:52:25,616 --> 00:52:28,856
Speaker 1: A Couple quotes I took from his postgame Shanahan said,

1201
00:52:28,856 --> 00:52:31,176
Speaker 1: the party's turf toe is something that probably won't fully

1202
00:52:31,176 --> 00:52:33,816
Speaker 1: go away all year, and regardless of when he comes back,

1203
00:52:33,856 --> 00:52:35,815
Speaker 1: he's always going to have to deal with it. He said,

1204
00:52:35,896 --> 00:52:38,456
Speaker 1: quote I thought about Purty as a backup or emergency

1205
00:52:38,496 --> 00:52:40,696
Speaker 1: third quarterback, but I think the more time we give

1206
00:52:40,776 --> 00:52:45,056
Speaker 1: him the better. At this point, it feels to me

1207
00:52:45,176 --> 00:52:48,496
Speaker 1: that mac Jones, probably at the version he is now,

1208
00:52:48,816 --> 00:52:51,576
Speaker 1: is a better quarterback than Perdy will be coming in

1209
00:52:51,776 --> 00:52:54,176
Speaker 1: with a turf toe and a partial injury.

1210
00:52:54,736 --> 00:52:57,216
Speaker 4: I agree with you, and then I also agree with

1211
00:52:57,256 --> 00:53:01,096
Speaker 4: you that they've got some confidence and the mac Jones

1212
00:53:01,856 --> 00:53:04,976
Speaker 4: is starting to You're starting to feel those guys support

1213
00:53:05,096 --> 00:53:06,816
Speaker 4: him and go around him, not to say that they

1214
00:53:06,816 --> 00:53:09,496
Speaker 4: wouldn't with Purty, but when you put Purty back in

1215
00:53:09,616 --> 00:53:11,936
Speaker 4: the game, and now you know he may be a

1216
00:53:12,056 --> 00:53:15,776
Speaker 4: game to game basis. He gets tackled once and he's

1217
00:53:15,816 --> 00:53:18,776
Speaker 4: taken all the reps during the week, and now he's

1218
00:53:18,856 --> 00:53:21,016
Speaker 4: back on the ir or out for the rest of

1219
00:53:21,056 --> 00:53:24,296
Speaker 4: the season. While mac Jones is a healthy scratch, why

1220
00:53:24,336 --> 00:53:26,056
Speaker 4: not go with the guy that's healthy and that you

1221
00:53:26,136 --> 00:53:28,896
Speaker 4: know who's probably going to be there and use Party

1222
00:53:28,936 --> 00:53:31,176
Speaker 4: in that emergency role, whereas if he has to come

1223
00:53:31,176 --> 00:53:32,816
Speaker 4: in then it's out of necessity.

1224
00:53:33,016 --> 00:53:35,096
Speaker 7: Just shut him down. Shut him down.

1225
00:53:35,816 --> 00:53:41,776
Speaker 1: Party hurdyty, party's hes hed, party's heardy, no play, party's

1226
00:53:41,816 --> 00:53:43,776
Speaker 1: hurd You want it back next year at turf to

1227
00:53:43,976 --> 00:53:46,336
Speaker 1: terrible name m turf Dow.

1228
00:53:46,616 --> 00:53:47,536
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it sounds fun.

1229
00:53:47,696 --> 00:53:49,776
Speaker 4: It does sound fun. It sounds like, oh it's turf toe,

1230
00:53:49,856 --> 00:53:51,416
Speaker 4: not a big deal. No, I heard it's one of

1231
00:53:51,416 --> 00:53:53,376
Speaker 4: the most excruciating things you can possibly have.

1232
00:53:53,616 --> 00:53:55,136
Speaker 1: I want to go and play with some play though

1233
00:53:55,176 --> 00:53:58,456
Speaker 1: on my turftoe. It feels like all those go together. Okay,

1234
00:53:58,496 --> 00:54:00,056
Speaker 1: do you have anything else? You have a final topic?

1235
00:54:00,496 --> 00:54:01,256
Speaker 1: Final topic?

1236
00:54:02,576 --> 00:54:06,696
Speaker 4: I really don't, but I do want to talk about uh, Chicago.

1237
00:54:07,376 --> 00:54:10,576
Speaker 7: I mean the city, the Bean.

1238
00:54:10,776 --> 00:54:12,016
Speaker 4: I haven't been to the Bean. I need to go

1239
00:54:12,016 --> 00:54:14,176
Speaker 4: to Chicago. I heard they've got, you know, a great city.

1240
00:54:14,216 --> 00:54:16,736
Speaker 4: I have been there, just just like for a day trip,

1241
00:54:16,776 --> 00:54:19,416
Speaker 4: but you haven't really got to I did.

1242
00:54:19,456 --> 00:54:24,776
Speaker 7: But like like I said to you, well, you don't

1243
00:54:24,776 --> 00:54:26,456
Speaker 7: get to experience.

1244
00:54:27,616 --> 00:54:29,336
Speaker 4: As we go in on a We go in on

1245
00:54:29,376 --> 00:54:31,416
Speaker 4: a Saturday and I leave on a Sunday.

1246
00:54:31,496 --> 00:54:33,696
Speaker 1: A day trips, like when you live in Milwaukee and

1247
00:54:33,736 --> 00:54:36,096
Speaker 1: you drive down and have dinner and then drive back,

1248
00:54:36,136 --> 00:54:38,656
Speaker 1: and it's a little longer than a normal commute. It's

1249
00:54:38,696 --> 00:54:42,056
Speaker 1: not going to play a professional football game a soldier field.

1250
00:54:42,136 --> 00:54:45,856
Speaker 4: I would fly in to fly out. Basically, That's what

1251
00:54:45,896 --> 00:54:48,936
Speaker 4: I did. It was a work trip, but that's better. Yeah,

1252
00:54:48,976 --> 00:54:51,736
Speaker 4: it was a work trip, but I mean I watched

1253
00:54:51,776 --> 00:54:54,816
Speaker 4: the complete game of Caleb William last week and and

1254
00:54:54,896 --> 00:54:58,216
Speaker 4: my god, he is one of the most physically talented

1255
00:54:58,256 --> 00:55:01,656
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the league. He can make every throw and

1256
00:55:01,696 --> 00:55:03,976
Speaker 4: he might not be the biggest in stature, but the

1257
00:55:04,096 --> 00:55:07,856
Speaker 4: guy can rip the ball anywhere. And then also his

1258
00:55:07,976 --> 00:55:10,776
Speaker 4: ability to move and make plays outside the pocket has

1259
00:55:10,936 --> 00:55:15,896
Speaker 4: been It's like such an exciting offense to watch and

1260
00:55:15,976 --> 00:55:18,416
Speaker 4: I say he's still you know, a lot of people

1261
00:55:18,456 --> 00:55:20,376
Speaker 4: are saying this, that and the other about they want

1262
00:55:20,376 --> 00:55:22,376
Speaker 4: to critique him, And yes, are there some flaws in

1263
00:55:22,416 --> 00:55:25,136
Speaker 4: his game, still one hundred percent, but you can see

1264
00:55:25,136 --> 00:55:30,496
Speaker 4: the growth with Ben Johnson and the just in constant

1265
00:55:30,496 --> 00:55:32,656
Speaker 4: improvement that he's made, and I think this guy's going

1266
00:55:32,736 --> 00:55:34,536
Speaker 4: to be a superstar sooner than later.

1267
00:55:35,696 --> 00:55:37,856
Speaker 1: I also am starting to see because I have different

1268
00:55:37,856 --> 00:55:39,736
Speaker 1: eyes than you, because you actually know what you're looking at.

1269
00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:40,936
Speaker 7: I just go ooh, good play.

1270
00:55:41,416 --> 00:55:44,776
Speaker 1: But I also can see that I can see what

1271
00:55:44,816 --> 00:55:49,816
Speaker 1: people love that he will possibly be. He's such an

1272
00:55:49,856 --> 00:55:53,336
Speaker 1: athlete at times he drives me crazy. There are but

1273
00:55:53,576 --> 00:55:56,456
Speaker 1: I think that's also this is like his real rookie

1274
00:55:56,496 --> 00:55:59,856
Speaker 1: year Iberflus. That wasn't really a rookie year. That was

1275
00:55:59,936 --> 00:56:03,336
Speaker 1: like when Trevor Lawrence played with Arbin Meyer. You know

1276
00:56:03,416 --> 00:56:06,176
Speaker 1: that year shouldn't count, right, So we're looking at a

1277
00:56:06,216 --> 00:56:09,776
Speaker 1: real rookie year with a real coach, an offensive coach.

1278
00:56:10,416 --> 00:56:12,376
Speaker 1: Uh And so yeah, it's kind of exciting to see

1279
00:56:13,736 --> 00:56:15,456
Speaker 1: because he's such an athlete.

1280
00:56:15,296 --> 00:56:18,056
Speaker 4: He's such an he does things that just blow me away.

1281
00:56:18,136 --> 00:56:22,256
Speaker 4: He and I'm not I'm not comparing him to Patrick Mahomes.

1282
00:56:22,336 --> 00:56:26,816
Speaker 4: But he's got that type of ability, just freak athleticism

1283
00:56:26,856 --> 00:56:29,056
Speaker 4: where he can make any throw at any time, and

1284
00:56:29,136 --> 00:56:31,016
Speaker 4: his ability to throw in the run is one of

1285
00:56:31,056 --> 00:56:32,336
Speaker 4: the best things that he does.

1286
00:56:32,616 --> 00:56:34,456
Speaker 1: Sounded to me like comparison to Patrick Mahomes. I would

1287
00:56:34,456 --> 00:56:36,096
Speaker 1: know what you guys, like, comparison to Patrick Mahomes.

1288
00:56:36,136 --> 00:56:36,736
Speaker 6: Yeah pretty close.

1289
00:56:36,816 --> 00:56:39,056
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't want to make a comparison, but

1290
00:56:39,056 --> 00:56:40,816
Speaker 4: I want to make a comparison to Nick Smith.

1291
00:56:43,216 --> 00:56:44,256
Speaker 7: God, I love Nick Smith.

1292
00:56:44,536 --> 00:56:48,496
Speaker 2: Kevin run through the trades. Yeah, so the big one

1293
00:56:48,496 --> 00:56:51,176
Speaker 2: of the day is Sauce Gardner. He got traded to

1294
00:56:51,216 --> 00:56:53,936
Speaker 2: the Cult for two first rounders and a d Mitchell

1295
00:56:53,976 --> 00:56:54,416
Speaker 2: the receiver.

1296
00:56:54,616 --> 00:56:57,696
Speaker 7: Damn from Indy. What was that about about ad Mitchell?

1297
00:56:59,176 --> 00:57:02,216
Speaker 7: Unders So you said that after a d Mitchell multitude

1298
00:57:02,736 --> 00:57:05,736
Speaker 7: was letting him complete the complete truths? Do you let

1299
00:57:05,776 --> 00:57:06,536
Speaker 7: people complete stuff?

1300
00:57:06,536 --> 00:57:08,776
Speaker 1: I'm over here a minute ago talking about Matthew Stafford

1301
00:57:08,936 --> 00:57:11,216
Speaker 1: and I said, Matthew staff Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know that.

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00:57:12,136 --> 00:57:14,576
Speaker 4: I wasn't interrupt. And then the very next one was

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Speaker 4: Drake Man. You're like, Kevin, what do you think about that?

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00:57:16,896 --> 00:57:19,816
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, so, I guess we can't have a conversation.

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Speaker 4: It's different different.

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00:57:21,896 --> 00:57:26,136
Speaker 1: You are a highly educated with experienced former Patriot.

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00:57:26,496 --> 00:57:29,096
Speaker 7: He is a fan who watches games and is underwear.

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Speaker 4: No, I was going to talk about Stafford. He was

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00:57:31,136 --> 00:57:33,456
Speaker 4: going to talk about the Patriot. No, I know, but

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00:57:33,656 --> 00:57:38,976
Speaker 4: act like Kevin. Go ahead, go ahead, mom, and dadd sadly,

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00:57:39,016 --> 00:57:41,216
Speaker 4: I'm mom, that's what calm down, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the Jets, they keep wheeling and dealing. They

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00:57:43,976 --> 00:57:47,736
Speaker 2: also traded Quinn Williams. He tackle the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: The wow yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So we're doing this on Tuesday afternoon because when Jerry

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00:57:53,896 --> 00:57:57,576
Speaker 1: Jones goes on Sunday or maybe even Monday early and goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a trade b vard. I thought it was

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00:57:59,696 --> 00:58:02,376
Speaker 1: when they traded for the Bengals linebacker.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Zach Logan Wilson, Wilson.

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00:58:05,456 --> 00:58:08,056
Speaker 1: And so I thought, you know, I don't know that

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00:58:08,056 --> 00:58:10,056
Speaker 1: I would have been hyping that one up like Jerry

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00:58:10,136 --> 00:58:11,896
Speaker 1: Jones was doing, like we got a trade coming.

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00:58:12,256 --> 00:58:14,376
Speaker 7: This one is actually better, this is legit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Big one for Williams is a second round pick in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and then twenty twenty seven first round

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Speaker 2: pick and defensive tackle.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's Mazzi, Mazzy Smith, Mazzie Smith.

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Speaker 7: I know Ozzie Smith played for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Short stop oh oh Smith altogether, Wait instinct. They gave

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Speaker 2: up a first, They gave up a first, a second

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Speaker 2: and a d tackle.

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Speaker 7: That's a lot. Quinn Williams, that's a lot. Quinn Williams

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Speaker 7: is good. I guess he's really good.

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Speaker 1: The only things that I have is a question here

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00:58:43,256 --> 00:58:48,736
Speaker 1: is what's on Quinn Williams contract. And secondly, the Cowboys

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00:58:48,736 --> 00:58:50,096
Speaker 1: really aren't in it this year.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of draft capital to give up in

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00:58:54,376 --> 00:58:57,376
Speaker 4: a year when you're not trying, you're really gonna You've

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00:58:57,376 --> 00:58:59,336
Speaker 4: got an uphill battle just to get back in the

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Speaker 4: mix in your own division.

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Speaker 1: Because I think listen, that was a lot for Sauce

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00:59:03,696 --> 00:59:07,056
Speaker 1: Gardner too. However, where you can argue, is it too many?

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00:59:07,256 --> 00:59:07,936
Speaker 1: Two ones?

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00:59:08,136 --> 00:59:10,936
Speaker 7: Is a lot? At least it's the Colts trying in.

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Speaker 1: A year where they're winning, right, and like, I can

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00:59:13,176 --> 00:59:15,216
Speaker 1: respect that. So you're like, oh, it's too much or

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00:59:15,376 --> 00:59:18,096
Speaker 1: too little. I like it when my team tries, when

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00:59:18,096 --> 00:59:20,496
Speaker 1: my team has a chance to win, But this this

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00:59:20,616 --> 00:59:23,096
Speaker 1: is weird unless he's got like three four years left.

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00:59:23,096 --> 00:59:24,856
Speaker 7: Well, I think it too left two left.

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00:59:24,896 --> 00:59:28,176
Speaker 4: And it's also like it feels like Jerry's trying to

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00:59:28,216 --> 00:59:29,936
Speaker 4: do something to make up for the parses.

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00:59:29,896 --> 00:59:32,536
Speaker 7: Before or before he dies. Well, like I have to.

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00:59:32,736 --> 00:59:34,576
Speaker 4: I have to do something to give these fans an

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00:59:34,616 --> 00:59:37,936
Speaker 4: understanding that we're trying to fix the defense or before

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Speaker 4: I die.

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Speaker 2: The parts is to I mean, they traded for Kenny

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00:59:41,016 --> 00:59:43,216
Speaker 2: Clark that was too stop the run. Yeah, and now

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00:59:43,256 --> 00:59:44,616
Speaker 2: here's another dtackle mid season.

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Speaker 7: They want to stop both runs.

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00:59:46,976 --> 00:59:50,096
Speaker 1: They want to stop every run in the NFC East period.

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Speaker 4: What about the defensive backfield that gave up three hundred yards?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? And what if his new approaches they're going to

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00:59:57,736 --> 00:59:59,336
Speaker 7: put Quin Williams as a defensive back.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that would be everyone's digging.

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01:00:02,416 --> 01:00:05,176
Speaker 1: He's just playing cover zero. Just jam them offline, but

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Speaker 1: just don't let them go.

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Speaker 4: There's no chance you can get run by every time

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Speaker 4: you get like two yards, So jam and hold them.

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Speaker 6: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: Our DraftKings segment of the week, here we go. It's

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Speaker 1: as Kevin McCaulay.

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Speaker 7: The Week in Pervu.

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Speaker 1: Every snap is loaded with opportunity. Three games this week,

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Speaker 1: Big game, Patriots at Bucks. That's just going to be

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01:00:33,656 --> 01:00:36,576
Speaker 1: a good game. I'm excited about it. Both teams on

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01:00:36,696 --> 01:00:38,696
Speaker 1: the way up, both teams aren't used to being on

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Speaker 1: the way up.

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Speaker 7: Pick a winner there, met Castle.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go with the Bucks at home, and the

1386
01:00:44,256 --> 01:00:46,496
Speaker 4: reason is I think that their defense is really good,

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Speaker 4: and I think the offensive line for the Patriots have

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01:00:49,216 --> 01:00:52,456
Speaker 4: struggled a little bit to protect Drake May consistently, and

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Speaker 4: I think this will be a defense that's probably one

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Speaker 4: of the best defenses that they'll face this season.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pick the Bucks as well, but just

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01:00:58,456 --> 01:01:00,496
Speaker 1: because they're coming off a bye week, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's helpful too.

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Speaker 7: Those are two equal teams.

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Speaker 1: I think if they're playing in London and they come

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01:01:05,696 --> 01:01:07,616
Speaker 1: off of bye week, I'm struggling with picking one of

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Speaker 1: the clear winner. But because they are playing at home

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01:01:09,816 --> 01:01:12,456
Speaker 1: and because they did have the week off last week,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the Bucks as well.

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Speaker 7: Rams at forty nine ers Matt Kessel.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with the play in the hot hand, I'm

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01:01:18,376 --> 01:01:21,416
Speaker 4: going with the Rams. I mean Stafford's playing as well

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01:01:21,416 --> 01:01:25,056
Speaker 4: as anybody at the quarterback position right now and pooking

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01:01:25,136 --> 01:01:26,376
Speaker 4: the kupa DeVante Adams.

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01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:27,856
Speaker 7: I mean, they've got weapons across the board.

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01:01:27,856 --> 01:01:30,936
Speaker 4: I think their defenses continues to get better, and they've

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01:01:30,976 --> 01:01:32,696
Speaker 4: got a young defense. But I'll tell you what, they're

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01:01:32,736 --> 01:01:34,576
Speaker 4: producing pass rush and they've got an identity.

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01:01:34,656 --> 01:01:35,936
Speaker 7: So I'm going to go with the Rams.

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01:01:36,136 --> 01:01:39,336
Speaker 1: I'm all right, Mac Jones. You rarely see a kid

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01:01:39,336 --> 01:01:41,496
Speaker 1: come up drafted as a linebacker. Make it a quarterback.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: I'm really pulling for the guys a tight end, yeah, Casckle.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:01:45,216 --> 01:01:49,336
Speaker 7: Like Eagles at Packers, this is Monday night football. Man,

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01:01:49,376 --> 01:01:51,056
Speaker 7: What a what a bad loss for the Packers?

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01:01:51,536 --> 01:01:53,736
Speaker 4: Key poundens what I say because I'm a lifelong Carolina

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01:01:53,776 --> 01:01:55,296
Speaker 4: Panther van for about.

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01:01:55,096 --> 01:01:57,536
Speaker 7: What five weeks now? Is that about right? Yeah?

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01:01:57,696 --> 01:02:00,776
Speaker 4: Life take I'm a lifelong Panther fan for about five weeks. Yeah,

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01:02:00,816 --> 01:02:02,896
Speaker 4: what a whim for the Panthers over the Packers. But

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Speaker 4: Eagles at Packers Packers are the favorite Monday football in

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Speaker 4: Green Bay.

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Speaker 7: I'm going with the Eagles, man. I mean, they.

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01:02:11,576 --> 01:02:13,576
Speaker 4: They've been playing really good football and they've been finding

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Speaker 4: ways to win. I know they haven't put it all together,

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01:02:16,056 --> 01:02:20,296
Speaker 4: but they've had to buy Packers struggled last week for

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01:02:20,336 --> 01:02:22,976
Speaker 4: the Packers bad injury at the tight end position. I

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01:02:22,976 --> 01:02:25,616
Speaker 4: mean that was huge because he was he was a

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Speaker 4: go to guy for Jordan Love, and there's just I

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01:02:28,216 --> 01:02:30,536
Speaker 4: think Jordan Love's a really good quarterback. But there are

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Speaker 4: times when he throws the ball up and I just go,

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Speaker 4: why in.

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Speaker 7: The hell did you just throw that ball?

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Speaker 4: Like there's another ball that there was one in a

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01:02:39,896 --> 01:02:41,976
Speaker 4: team meeting down the field that got intercepted. There was

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01:02:42,016 --> 01:02:43,976
Speaker 4: another one where he was trying to and it might

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01:02:43,976 --> 01:02:45,656
Speaker 4: have been win, I don't know, but he hit the

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01:02:45,656 --> 01:02:49,136
Speaker 4: guy directly in the hands in the end zone and

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01:02:49,296 --> 01:02:52,536
Speaker 4: the Carolina Panther dB dropped it, and I just go,

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01:02:53,056 --> 01:02:55,936
Speaker 4: that was right in the end zone, right talking about

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01:02:56,096 --> 01:03:02,616
Speaker 4: I'm talking about hit him right in the chest.

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Speaker 7: But I couldn't believe he dropped. The throw was so bad.

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Speaker 1: But he dropped the easiest interception of the history of

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01:03:08,736 --> 01:03:10,936
Speaker 1: interceptions that I forgot how bad the throw was.

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Speaker 4: And then you go and that's why you play dB.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's but the throw was just absurd. I

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01:03:19,656 --> 01:03:21,896
Speaker 4: couldn't explain it. I couldn't even I couldn't even tell

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Speaker 4: you what he was thinking about doing at that point.

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Speaker 1: I just heard the announcer say about eleven times. This

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Speaker 1: is my memory from the game, that Jordan Love was

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, and that Aaron Rodgers won his championship and

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Speaker 7: And if they don't stop bring up that stupid fact,

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Speaker 1: Before we Go, we did an episode with Eric Decker

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Speaker 1: Go back a couple episodes. Listen to it. It was

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01:04:37,616 --> 01:04:40,216
Speaker 1: really a whole lot about his career. It's not super timely,

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01:04:40,296 --> 01:04:46,096
Speaker 1: meaning it's evergreen. It's a great Eric Decker history. He

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Speaker 1: ended up believing Special Forces because I guess he got hurt.

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01:04:49,616 --> 01:04:49,816
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:04:49,816 --> 01:04:52,336
Speaker 4: I said it was a back, tight back or something

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01:04:52,376 --> 01:04:52,896
Speaker 4: with his back.

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01:04:53,616 --> 01:04:55,976
Speaker 7: Is that like when you get injured in your team? Sucks? Dude?

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01:04:55,976 --> 01:04:57,816
Speaker 4: He was like, did are you serious? Like this is

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01:04:57,856 --> 01:04:59,816
Speaker 4: going downhill? I'm out at here.

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Speaker 1: On last week's episode Special Forces, Eric struggled to keep

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01:05:02,776 --> 01:05:06,176
Speaker 1: up in the military style competition, causing his wife James Decker,

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01:05:06,176 --> 01:05:08,616
Speaker 1: to worry. During a check in with staff, he admitted

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01:05:08,816 --> 01:05:10,936
Speaker 1: that he'd been pushing himself quote as hard as I can,

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01:05:11,216 --> 01:05:13,736
Speaker 1: but he was reaching a point of exhaustion in his soul.

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01:05:14,296 --> 01:05:16,056
Speaker 1: When he went to visit the doctor at base camp.

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01:05:16,096 --> 01:05:18,696
Speaker 1: A few tests showed it wasn't safe for him to

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01:05:18,696 --> 01:05:21,336
Speaker 1: stay in the game. Quote, I'm concerned that we can't

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01:05:21,336 --> 01:05:24,016
Speaker 1: afflict any more punishment on that hip. The doctor revealed,

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01:05:24,256 --> 01:05:26,856
Speaker 1: I don't think we can safely really let it carry on.

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01:05:27,656 --> 01:05:30,696
Speaker 7: Eric Decker out and Jesse left with him. What a

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01:05:30,696 --> 01:05:31,256
Speaker 7: good wife?

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if she stayed in won I can,

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Speaker 4: and I would have I know, I know you would

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01:05:37,216 --> 01:05:39,416
Speaker 4: have like, all right, man, sorry, go fix that hip up.

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01:05:39,456 --> 01:05:41,656
Speaker 4: I'll meet you in Germany, yep, or wherever they're at.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:05:42,696 --> 01:05:44,936
Speaker 1: So sad to see him go. He did not in

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01:05:44,976 --> 01:05:48,296
Speaker 1: any way indicate that that happened. He didn't tell us anything.

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01:05:48,296 --> 01:05:50,456
Speaker 1: He stayed right by his NDA designed and he really

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01:05:50,496 --> 01:05:51,816
Speaker 1: did revealed nothing to us.

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01:05:51,736 --> 01:05:53,496
Speaker 4: As I could you have told. Maybe that's why he's

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01:05:53,536 --> 01:05:56,576
Speaker 4: been stretching so much at the Little League games. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:05:56,616 --> 01:05:58,256
Speaker 4: he was stretching out that Ye you thought it was

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01:05:58,256 --> 01:05:59,416
Speaker 4: to be sexy him.

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Speaker 1: He tore it doing special forces training, yeah, or whatever

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Speaker 1: you call it. I hope because we're recording this again

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Speaker 1: late Tuesday afternoon. I hope I get to watch Dancing

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01:06:06,416 --> 01:06:08,976
Speaker 1: with the Stars tonight. I'm so annoyed because I have YouTube.

1516
01:06:08,736 --> 01:06:12,256
Speaker 4: TV and oh, yeah, you guys got to watch your Disney. Yeah,

1517
01:06:12,256 --> 01:06:14,776
Speaker 4: I couldn't watch Game Day Now. I'm not part of

1518
01:06:14,816 --> 01:06:17,096
Speaker 4: YouTube TV. So it's not like I have a dispute

1519
01:06:17,096 --> 01:06:17,576
Speaker 4: with Disney.

1520
01:06:17,616 --> 01:06:20,256
Speaker 7: No, I'm saying that they had I know you don't

1521
01:06:20,496 --> 01:06:20,816
Speaker 7: You said?

1522
01:06:20,896 --> 01:06:21,296
Speaker 8: Well you do?

1523
01:06:21,376 --> 01:06:21,576
Speaker 7: Now?

1524
01:06:21,816 --> 01:06:22,016
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1525
01:06:22,496 --> 01:06:23,776
Speaker 7: Didn't get college, didn't you?

1526
01:06:23,976 --> 01:06:24,176
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1527
01:06:24,216 --> 01:06:26,416
Speaker 7: No, I didn't get college. I didn't get money at football.

1528
01:06:27,016 --> 01:06:28,816
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, what'd you do? You got to have another

1529
01:06:28,856 --> 01:06:31,656
Speaker 7: streaming service? No, I learned to buy Sling on a

1530
01:06:31,696 --> 01:06:34,936
Speaker 7: one day pass for six bucks a day. That's actually nice. Yeah,

1531
01:06:35,496 --> 01:06:36,536
Speaker 7: who knew? Who knew?

1532
01:06:36,696 --> 01:06:38,856
Speaker 1: But I'm really hoping to get it back for Dancing

1533
01:06:38,856 --> 01:06:41,256
Speaker 1: with the Stars tonight. Really need and you can come over.

1534
01:06:41,096 --> 01:06:42,656
Speaker 7: To my house and watch it with the kids. Are

1535
01:06:42,656 --> 01:06:45,336
Speaker 7: you guys watching it? I don't know, So you're not

1536
01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:45,736
Speaker 7: watching it?

1537
01:06:45,736 --> 01:06:45,896
Speaker 8: Then?

1538
01:06:45,936 --> 01:06:48,216
Speaker 7: Probably not? If that no, no, no, no, you missed my question.

1539
01:06:48,416 --> 01:06:50,976
Speaker 7: Have you been watching it? I haven't? Then, Okay, where

1540
01:06:50,976 --> 01:06:53,336
Speaker 7: are we in the season? I think it's like six left,

1541
01:06:53,496 --> 01:06:55,336
Speaker 7: but we're close. We just a couple of weeks left.

1542
01:06:55,416 --> 01:06:58,256
Speaker 7: Who's the front runner? Who do I think is going

1543
01:06:58,296 --> 01:06:58,576
Speaker 7: to win?

1544
01:06:59,376 --> 01:07:04,216
Speaker 1: Dylan Ephron or Robert Irwin. Probably Robert Irwin if I

1545
01:07:04,216 --> 01:07:08,296
Speaker 1: hadn't bet, he's Steve Berwin's son, Bendy irwinz brother, a

1546
01:07:08,456 --> 01:07:11,856
Speaker 1: younger brother. She was a champion on the show. And

1547
01:07:12,016 --> 01:07:15,576
Speaker 1: now Robert Irwin. He's really good. He's really good, except

1548
01:07:15,616 --> 01:07:19,976
Speaker 1: he's not professional. Like he's really good without much experience.

1549
01:07:20,616 --> 01:07:23,496
Speaker 1: So that's what you like. Yeah, Zac Efron's little brother.

1550
01:07:23,576 --> 01:07:26,016
Speaker 1: There's a lot of nepotism here, huh yeah, Zach. As

1551
01:07:26,056 --> 01:07:29,376
Speaker 1: of those people, it's Dylan Ephron, good looking dude, like

1552
01:07:29,456 --> 01:07:32,736
Speaker 1: good dancer, sure, great with no shirt like makes it work,

1553
01:07:32,896 --> 01:07:35,536
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and one of those sex appeal yeah yeah,

1554
01:07:35,816 --> 01:07:38,856
Speaker 1: get it. They're both good. I'm rooting for Andy Richter

1555
01:07:38,936 --> 01:07:43,696
Speaker 1: and Emma. Andy's like he's like sixty, he wears knee

1556
01:07:43,696 --> 01:07:44,776
Speaker 1: braces on both legs.

1557
01:07:45,456 --> 01:07:49,256
Speaker 7: Not a great dancer, but like really has America's heart. Yeah,

1558
01:07:49,456 --> 01:07:50,976
Speaker 7: just give it full effort. Yeah.

1559
01:07:51,016 --> 01:07:53,936
Speaker 1: So by the time that this has heard, you're gonna

1560
01:07:53,936 --> 01:07:55,696
Speaker 1: know who's been kicked off. I don't know yet, but

1561
01:07:55,736 --> 01:07:57,656
Speaker 1: I'm really rooting for and I like Emma a lot

1562
01:07:57,656 --> 01:07:59,856
Speaker 1: when I was on the show, Like Chearnov's my partner,

1563
01:07:59,896 --> 01:08:01,456
Speaker 1: so I gotta take her out of the conversation. But

1564
01:08:01,616 --> 01:08:04,376
Speaker 1: Emma was the absolute greatest and the biggest helper to me,

1565
01:08:04,936 --> 01:08:07,736
Speaker 1: and was like an emotional resource too, And like when

1566
01:08:07,736 --> 01:08:09,536
Speaker 1: they would come to town, she'd like come over to the house,

1567
01:08:10,136 --> 01:08:13,136
Speaker 1: like I really liked had a great relationship with her

1568
01:08:13,176 --> 01:08:16,016
Speaker 1: and her husband at the time, who they're no longer married,

1569
01:08:16,016 --> 01:08:18,216
Speaker 1: but he's still part of the he's an answer to

1570
01:08:18,576 --> 01:08:21,216
Speaker 1: Oh really, And now she's dating another dancer. No, I

1571
01:08:21,936 --> 01:08:25,095
Speaker 1: I know, I know she's she's still on the show.

1572
01:08:25,816 --> 01:08:27,576
Speaker 1: He's still on the show. Oh I got even better

1573
01:08:27,616 --> 01:08:28,656
Speaker 1: wrinkle right for the big.

1574
01:08:28,536 --> 01:08:31,135
Speaker 4: Rings this is and then she's but now she's dating

1575
01:08:31,296 --> 01:08:32,416
Speaker 4: another dancer on the show.

1576
01:08:32,696 --> 01:08:35,456
Speaker 7: So wow, this is one in sesuous group of people.

1577
01:08:35,536 --> 01:08:37,696
Speaker 7: Well can't you imagine? They're together all the time. I know,

1578
01:08:37,936 --> 01:08:39,095
Speaker 7: and they're great dancers.

1579
01:08:39,376 --> 01:08:42,536
Speaker 1: So they were dating. It was Emma and Sasha. Sasha

1580
01:08:42,616 --> 01:08:45,376
Speaker 1: is the guy they were dating. He proposed on the show.

1581
01:08:45,496 --> 01:08:48,096
Speaker 1: This is seasons before I went that's romantic, So how

1582
01:08:48,096 --> 01:08:50,896
Speaker 1: can you say no? Exactly? They both danced on the show.

1583
01:08:50,936 --> 01:08:53,135
Speaker 1: They got married, they were together. I knew them married.

1584
01:08:53,176 --> 01:08:54,976
Speaker 1: They were a married couple when I was there. Okay,

1585
01:08:55,016 --> 01:08:56,576
Speaker 1: even when they would come to town, they came over

1586
01:08:56,616 --> 01:08:59,135
Speaker 1: and hung out with me. Married, they then got a divorce.

1587
01:08:59,616 --> 01:09:02,856
Speaker 1: My assumption and the limited knowledge that I have is

1588
01:09:02,856 --> 01:09:05,336
Speaker 1: are still cool. But now she's dating another dancer from

1589
01:09:05,456 --> 01:09:08,656
Speaker 1: the show. It's her boyfriend, and I knew him and

1590
01:09:08,736 --> 01:09:12,296
Speaker 1: really liked him as well. Now Sasha still on the show.

1591
01:09:12,336 --> 01:09:16,856
Speaker 1: Not this season. Here you go, Here's big finale. Sasha,

1592
01:09:16,936 --> 01:09:19,496
Speaker 1: her ex husband, was supposed to be on this season,

1593
01:09:19,736 --> 01:09:23,136
Speaker 1: and rumored his partner was Jordan Hudson and she backed out.

1594
01:09:23,176 --> 01:09:26,576
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's girlfriend. She backed out last minute because she

1595
01:09:26,616 --> 01:09:28,896
Speaker 1: decided she didn't want to go on the show. So

1596
01:09:28,936 --> 01:09:31,055
Speaker 1: he lost his spot because she backed out of the show.

1597
01:09:31,656 --> 01:09:33,376
Speaker 7: Wow, this is.

1598
01:09:33,376 --> 01:09:35,256
Speaker 4: Great they need to do Can we do it behind

1599
01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:36,976
Speaker 4: the scenes like I'd tune in for that.

1600
01:09:37,136 --> 01:09:40,016
Speaker 7: Uh huh. I wish Belichick's girl would have went on

1601
01:09:40,496 --> 01:09:43,096
Speaker 7: I do too. That would have been amazing. And so

1602
01:09:43,176 --> 01:09:43,696
Speaker 7: Sasha was.

1603
01:09:43,696 --> 01:09:45,736
Speaker 1: Going to be on the season, but rumor has it

1604
01:09:46,376 --> 01:09:47,976
Speaker 1: that was his partner and she backed out, so he

1605
01:09:47,976 --> 01:09:49,856
Speaker 1: didn't have a partner.

1606
01:09:49,376 --> 01:09:51,736
Speaker 7: And they also didn't want him to beat up the

1607
01:09:51,816 --> 01:09:57,016
Speaker 7: new boyfriend. No, I believe they're cool and they both family.

1608
01:09:57,856 --> 01:10:00,336
Speaker 4: Dancers are normally pretty pretty cool. Have you ever met

1609
01:10:00,376 --> 01:10:02,856
Speaker 4: like a dancer that you didn't really like? Or was

1610
01:10:02,896 --> 01:10:04,216
Speaker 4: there one on the show you don't even have to

1611
01:10:04,216 --> 01:10:05,216
Speaker 4: mention them that was.

1612
01:10:05,136 --> 01:10:10,456
Speaker 7: Like, oh yeah, two two of them? Most males, I

1613
01:10:10,496 --> 01:10:12,776
Speaker 7: have no comment. Come on, you got last.

1614
01:10:12,856 --> 01:10:15,496
Speaker 4: I'm not asking you to name anybody, but you're cutting

1615
01:10:15,496 --> 01:10:18,816
Speaker 4: half off if you say male or female, you're cutting.

1616
01:10:18,656 --> 01:10:20,616
Speaker 7: Of course we are, Yeah, are you?

1617
01:10:20,816 --> 01:10:25,616
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say there were two very difficult dancers that

1618
01:10:25,736 --> 01:10:30,936
Speaker 1: I would say weren't loved by all that weren't super

1619
01:10:31,056 --> 01:10:32,336
Speaker 1: nice to me either, and I.

1620
01:10:32,416 --> 01:10:34,496
Speaker 4: Was was it because of the competitive nature that they

1621
01:10:34,496 --> 01:10:36,136
Speaker 4: have or was it just because of the.

1622
01:10:36,176 --> 01:10:40,056
Speaker 1: Nobody saw me as a as competition? Because watching back,

1623
01:10:40,096 --> 01:10:41,696
Speaker 1: I'm doing a whole video series because I've never watched

1624
01:10:41,736 --> 01:10:44,096
Speaker 1: my dances back ever until now, because I was like,

1625
01:10:44,136 --> 01:10:45,896
Speaker 1: I'm not and I was actually a little more athletic

1626
01:10:45,976 --> 01:10:50,095
Speaker 1: than I wasn't as bad as everybody made me feel. Yeah,

1627
01:10:50,296 --> 01:10:52,056
Speaker 1: I had a level of trauma with it, like with

1628
01:10:52,176 --> 01:10:53,976
Speaker 1: watching it back, which is why I never watched it back.

1629
01:10:54,056 --> 01:10:55,856
Speaker 1: I won the freaking thing I was proud of winning,

1630
01:10:56,056 --> 01:10:57,376
Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm not going to watch it.

1631
01:10:58,216 --> 01:10:59,816
Speaker 1: I had just understood in my heart and soul that

1632
01:10:59,816 --> 01:11:02,736
Speaker 1: I was terrible, but I won through the people. But

1633
01:11:02,776 --> 01:11:04,456
Speaker 1: now that I watch back, I definitely want through the people.

1634
01:11:04,456 --> 01:11:06,576
Speaker 1: But I wasn't near as bad as I gave myself

1635
01:11:06,696 --> 01:11:10,176
Speaker 1: credit for being. Yeah, that they made you believe.

1636
01:11:09,856 --> 01:11:12,496
Speaker 4: You were yeah, because I really believed. Man, I was

1637
01:11:12,576 --> 01:11:15,136
Speaker 4: terrible and I'm never dancing again. Your wife's like, can

1638
01:11:15,216 --> 01:11:16,976
Speaker 4: we do the first dance at the wedding. You're like,

1639
01:11:17,416 --> 01:11:18,055
Speaker 4: no chance.

1640
01:11:18,296 --> 01:11:20,816
Speaker 1: I called in a stunt dancer at the wedding. It

1641
01:11:20,856 --> 01:11:22,976
Speaker 1: wasn't me, like I will not have this first dance.

1642
01:11:23,216 --> 01:11:25,776
Speaker 1: Let's wear mastering our first dance BIB. There were a

1643
01:11:25,776 --> 01:11:28,216
Speaker 1: couple that were difficult, and it wasn't even towards the

1644
01:11:28,216 --> 01:11:30,536
Speaker 1: competition part of me, because nobody thought I was competition

1645
01:11:30,856 --> 01:11:33,456
Speaker 1: for real until like the last four weeks. That's when

1646
01:11:33,456 --> 01:11:34,976
Speaker 1: they knew they were introll I was never in the

1647
01:11:34,976 --> 01:11:37,176
Speaker 1: bottom three. They don't do bottom three anymore. They do

1648
01:11:37,256 --> 01:11:39,936
Speaker 1: random three, but but five seasons it goes they did

1649
01:11:39,976 --> 01:11:40,776
Speaker 1: bottom three.

1650
01:11:41,096 --> 01:11:43,736
Speaker 4: Well, so random three would be you don't even know

1651
01:11:43,776 --> 01:11:45,856
Speaker 4: you're in the bottom three. They just have three couples.

1652
01:11:45,856 --> 01:11:47,776
Speaker 1: At the end when they're so, they start telling people

1653
01:11:48,296 --> 01:11:50,296
Speaker 1: so and so you're safe, You're safe. There are three

1654
01:11:50,336 --> 01:11:52,616
Speaker 1: couples on stage. One of you is going home. Doesn't

1655
01:11:52,616 --> 01:11:54,696
Speaker 1: that make it the bottom three? Though it doesn't, so

1656
01:11:54,736 --> 01:11:57,216
Speaker 1: they feel like it is the bottom one is for

1657
01:11:57,256 --> 01:12:00,296
Speaker 1: sure of the bottom three, but the other two they

1658
01:12:00,296 --> 01:12:02,696
Speaker 1: don't have to be. Oh they could be the weird

1659
01:12:02,776 --> 01:12:04,456
Speaker 1: number one, but you never know the voting.

1660
01:12:04,696 --> 01:12:07,536
Speaker 4: Nice little twist. But it's good job producers. My season,

1661
01:12:07,576 --> 01:12:09,976
Speaker 4: it was just a bottom three, so you knew. Yeah,

1662
01:12:10,016 --> 01:12:12,856
Speaker 4: and you're never wearing the bottom three, not once, hell yeah,

1663
01:12:13,016 --> 01:12:13,656
Speaker 4: but nobody.

1664
01:12:14,296 --> 01:12:15,296
Speaker 7: But I was never am.

1665
01:12:16,816 --> 01:12:19,176
Speaker 4: I net the competition when they got to like week

1666
01:12:19,216 --> 01:12:19,936
Speaker 4: eight and they're like this.

1667
01:12:20,176 --> 01:12:22,656
Speaker 7: Month, yeah, this dude's never been in the bottom three.

1668
01:12:22,976 --> 01:12:26,295
Speaker 1: And then once I because I was pretty heavily involved

1669
01:12:26,496 --> 01:12:29,136
Speaker 1: in creating television shows, like I had signed a deal

1670
01:12:29,136 --> 01:12:32,256
Speaker 1: with BBC after Dancing with the Stars BBC America to

1671
01:12:32,256 --> 01:12:34,376
Speaker 1: write shows, like to create concepts of shows, and then

1672
01:12:34,376 --> 01:12:35,976
Speaker 1: I would learn about where they would put and then

1673
01:12:35,976 --> 01:12:38,256
Speaker 1: I would learn they would put certain dancers at the

1674
01:12:38,256 --> 01:12:41,176
Speaker 1: top of hours and those are the ones that they

1675
01:12:41,216 --> 01:12:44,976
Speaker 1: really wanted. I shouldn't say to highlight, but they were

1676
01:12:45,016 --> 01:12:45,416
Speaker 1: the ones that.

1677
01:12:45,416 --> 01:12:46,616
Speaker 7: People they knew people would like.

1678
01:12:46,856 --> 01:12:49,216
Speaker 1: Because let's say that the show goes on seven to

1679
01:12:49,296 --> 01:12:52,056
Speaker 1: nine after another network has their show seven to eight.

1680
01:12:52,136 --> 01:12:54,296
Speaker 1: Let's say people are flipping around or finding a new show.

1681
01:12:54,496 --> 01:12:57,496
Speaker 1: They're going to come and sample that first few minutes

1682
01:12:57,496 --> 01:12:59,856
Speaker 1: of dancing with us, So they would put one of

1683
01:12:59,856 --> 01:13:01,936
Speaker 1: the people that were getting like the best votes at

1684
01:13:01,976 --> 01:13:04,376
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. It'd be either the first dancer,

1685
01:13:04,616 --> 01:13:06,416
Speaker 1: the top of the hour dancer, or the end dancer.

1686
01:13:06,416 --> 01:13:08,896
Speaker 1: I never knew this, And then once I finished the

1687
01:13:08,936 --> 01:13:11,576
Speaker 1: whole season, I started to learn this. I realized most

1688
01:13:11,616 --> 01:13:14,336
Speaker 1: episodes I was either the first dancer, the top of

1689
01:13:14,376 --> 01:13:17,576
Speaker 1: the hour dancer, or the final dancer. Ye never knew

1690
01:13:17,616 --> 01:13:19,416
Speaker 1: any of that until you tell me, Bob.

1691
01:13:19,296 --> 01:13:21,656
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, I kind of. I meant to

1692
01:13:21,656 --> 01:13:23,656
Speaker 7: say bob by, but you didn't want to keep interrupting.

1693
01:13:23,936 --> 01:13:26,616
Speaker 7: I want to stop. I want to stop because I've

1694
01:13:26,656 --> 01:13:30,576
Speaker 7: already got scolded my mom to day. All right, Sam Darnold,

1695
01:13:30,776 --> 01:13:33,536
Speaker 7: and uh, I'm sorry. I started to say your name,

1696
01:13:33,576 --> 01:13:36,736
Speaker 7: but I just wanted to stop. We're done. That is

1697
01:13:36,776 --> 01:13:40,296
Speaker 7: Matt Castle. That is Kickoff Kevin. That is Brandon Ray.

1698
01:13:40,656 --> 01:13:41,576
Speaker 7: That is Nick Smith.

1699
01:13:41,736 --> 01:13:44,216
Speaker 1: He is a fictional character that we created today that

1700
01:13:44,296 --> 01:13:46,296
Speaker 1: we just throw in for no reason.

1701
01:13:46,016 --> 01:13:48,296
Speaker 7: At all, anytime we want. I'm Bobby Bones. Thank you guys.

1702
01:13:48,296 --> 01:13:50,096
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, the one favorite we would ask

1703
01:13:50,136 --> 01:13:52,096
Speaker 1: share this on your Instagram story. It'd be like, hey,

1704
01:13:52,616 --> 01:13:55,576
Speaker 1: this podcast is great. If you like funny things, if

1705
01:13:55,576 --> 01:13:58,776
Speaker 1: you like quarterbacks, you like Nick Smith, like posted up

1706
01:13:58,816 --> 01:14:01,336
Speaker 1: there because nobody's promoting us and we would love to

1707
01:14:01,336 --> 01:14:01,576
Speaker 1: help it.

1708
01:14:01,656 --> 01:14:04,376
Speaker 7: If you don't, thank you guys. Thank to Lagarette Blanche.

1709
01:14:04,376 --> 01:14:06,816
Speaker 7: We'll see you guys next week. Have box to Say, Fireblo.

1710
01:14:12,096 --> 01:14:14,256
Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

1711
01:14:14,296 --> 01:14:17,856
Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. For more

1712
01:14:17,896 --> 01:14:21,936
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01:14:21,936 --> 01:14:23,216
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