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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number twenty.

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Speaker 1: Today in the show, we're talking about our goals, hopes,

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Speaker 1: and hit lists for two thousand fourteen. We're dreaming big today.

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Speaker 1: So grab a refreshing beverage, settle in, and get ready

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Speaker 1: to get stoked for the upcoming season. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the wire to Hunt Podcast. Today, it's just me

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Speaker 1: and my good buddy and co host Dan Johnson. How's

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Speaker 1: it going, man, I'm doing very good. I'm not at work,

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Speaker 1: so that's pretty much about this time every day. I

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Speaker 1: got maybe a ten minute drive home, and that ten

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Speaker 1: minute drive is my wine down period from my cubicle nightmare.

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Speaker 1: And uh so I'm happy right now, not at work.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad when you're happy, Dan, you're much more fun

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Speaker 1: to talk to. Um. Yeah, I'm I'm not doing too

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Speaker 1: bad over here either. I'm trying a new concoction. Um

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Speaker 1: for all those listeners of age, I'm drinking a bud

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Speaker 1: Light with orange. You know there's bud Light lime you

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Speaker 1: might be drinking Oberon with an orange. But I'm doing

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Speaker 1: a bud Light with orange today, and uh, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I must say. I have never had that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think it's a thing, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna try to make it a thing. So everybody try

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Speaker 1: it if you're over twenty one. I think you'll like

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Speaker 1: it if you like bud light. So one time in college,

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Speaker 1: the only thing we had to mix was dr pepper,

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Speaker 1: orange juice and vodka and we called it the dirty

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Speaker 1: Foot for some reason, and that's what we drank for

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Speaker 1: about two weeks. All right, that's the podcast next week,

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Speaker 1: The Dirty Foot, The Dirty Foot. I think the name

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Speaker 1: is perfect. It really makes it sound appealing. It didn't

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Speaker 1: look it didn't look good, but it had a unique

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Speaker 1: taste to it. Yeah, no, I bet I know. Um.

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Speaker 1: I had a friend who used to make something called

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Speaker 1: brass monkeys, where you take a really cheap forty of

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Speaker 1: some type of you know, really cheap beer, drink it

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Speaker 1: down to the label and fill the rest of the

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Speaker 1: orange juice, and uh, they call that a brass monkey.

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Speaker 1: And that was pretty good, I guess. But you had

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Speaker 1: lots of interesting beverage choices for the adults in the audience. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: I recommend a coke or a pepsi with a lime wedge.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good one as well. Maybe maybe a

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Speaker 1: nice ice water. Ice water is delectable. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of ice water. There was a period of my

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Speaker 1: time I had an injury and I couldn't drink alcohol

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Speaker 1: because of the medication that I was on, so I

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Speaker 1: would go to the bar and order slipping slides. And

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Speaker 1: that's just basically water on the rocks. It's a a

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Speaker 1: way to say it. Though. It made me seem cool, right,

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Speaker 1: or at least you thought you sounded cool exactly, and

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Speaker 1: that sounds like, oh Jesus, this guy asking for slipping slides.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, I wanted to do something. Here's Dan.

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Speaker 1: It's a little different than usual. You know, we don't

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Speaker 1: have a guest on the show, and I thought we'd

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Speaker 1: kind of keep it super casual today. Um, it's middle August.

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Speaker 1: I think you and definitely I were getting super itchy

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Speaker 1: about the deer season. It's coming up soon. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Um. Lots of stuff has been happening recently

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Speaker 1: in the woods where we're getting ready. I've been doing

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Speaker 1: a bunch of things. Just came off of a trip

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Speaker 1: down to Ohio, and I just wanted to talk about,

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Speaker 1: you know, where we're at leading up to this season

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Speaker 1: and kind of you know, what we're hoping to get

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Speaker 1: out of the season. What are what are our goals

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Speaker 1: for the two thousand and fourteen season, what are hopes

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Speaker 1: and dreams? You know, what are the deer we're chasing.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to talk about all those things

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Speaker 1: because I think that is one of the best things

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Speaker 1: leading up to this season, all this hope. I think

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Speaker 1: all of us we're just like, I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just like about to burst with anticipation. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: So I thought we'd kind of tap into that today.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about all the crazy things that we're excited about,

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Speaker 1: the things we're dreaming about night, the stuff that we

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Speaker 1: I don't know, does that sound like a good idea

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Speaker 1: we're hoping for in our goals and everything. Because this weekend,

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Speaker 1: my hopes and dreams and goals for the two thousand

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Speaker 1: also taking a quick step back. It is awesome to

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Speaker 1: my hunting life. You don't hear that often from a

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Speaker 1: guy living in Iowa. So of that stud, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a giant dude. He's insane, I know it. Um. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I myself and my buddy Josh, who's a member

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Speaker 1: and another friend Corey headed down to southern Ohio, UM

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Speaker 1: where We've been hunting for four years now, I think

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Speaker 1: decided to invest in a lease and it's really paid off.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten a really really good area, excuse me. And

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Speaker 1: we went down there this weekend to do some final

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Speaker 1: and then another shooter buck and another. It was just stupid.

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Speaker 1: We got I believe nine different pope and young caliber

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Speaker 1: Five of those are one forty plus bucks. Well I

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Speaker 1: think there's two one forties. There's two they're right really

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Speaker 1: Split brow on the other, UM junk like crazy, like

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Speaker 1: brand new. He just showed up. We've never seen him.

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Speaker 1: Last last year we saw deer across the road from

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Speaker 1: UM giant buck. We called him pick up fence and

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Speaker 1: he kind of looked like this deer, but we don't

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Speaker 1: think it's him. UM. I think his frame was a

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Speaker 1: I think it's a new deer. But he's been showing

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Speaker 1: do have history with. UM. And then I guess, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're kind of diving rerendous. It was we're talking about

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Speaker 1: my goals, you know, part of my goals for this

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Speaker 1: a certain age buck. And I'm trying to set higher

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Speaker 1: I thought I want to kill something high one thirties

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Speaker 1: based on you know, what I think is uh the challenge.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for a little bit of what's attainable and

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Speaker 1: then what's that challenge and how how much do I

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Speaker 1: want to push myself? And with these two bucks that

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Speaker 1: have history with really these are the two deer I want.

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Speaker 1: Um when one of them is Jawbreaker and he is

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Speaker 1: at at a minimum six and a half years old.

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Speaker 1: He is the biggest bodied buck I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: my life. Um, he's the buck if if anyone had

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Speaker 1: seen our films last year. We had my first trip

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Speaker 1: hunting season at least. I had set up an observation

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Speaker 1: stand on the edge of a being field looking down

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Speaker 1: the small finger of beans and across this wider field

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Speaker 1: just to again. It was the first time we'd ever

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Speaker 1: are they coming out to feed. Wasn't really expecting anything

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Speaker 1: but that that first night this giant buck came out.

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Speaker 1: At that point we estimate he was a five and

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Speaker 1: a half year old. He was probably in the one fifties,

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Speaker 1: but just a really tall, massive, thick framed buck as

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Speaker 1: a nine pointer, um pretty much an eight just a

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Speaker 1: really small G four on one side, but just a stud.

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Speaker 1: So I watched him like an hour and a half

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Speaker 1: but never quite closed the distance to night, never got shot,

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Speaker 1: in um there and in bow season he got again

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Speaker 1: they do travel to the bean fields and the corn fields,

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00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: but this buck seems to be he's he's there all

427
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: summer long and then come October after he should you know,

428
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: maybe he sheds the velvet, sticks around for a couple

429
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: more weeks and then he and then he's on. But

430
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: I did I did have an encounter with him last

431
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: at the very first night I hunted last season, like

432
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: October four. And uh, if you see this dear sideways,

433
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like much. But if you see him

434
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: head on, he's an airplane coming through the woods man.

435
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: What do you think he what do you think he

436
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: scores that this year? He's he's not he's not a

437
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: deer for numbers, but he'll be somewhere around the one

438
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: he's this year is an eight pointer. So he'll be

439
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: around the one forty he's got probably if I had

440
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: to guess, twenty two plus inside spread um one forty one, yeah,

441
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: forty five. Maybe I don't think he's gonna be too big.

442
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, a hundred eight pointer h

443
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: that's nothing to snuff at. I mean, that's a nice,

444
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: nice eight point buck. What makes him a trophy in

445
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: my eyes is that his age class first of all,

446
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: and second is his um is the history would have

447
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: with him, you know, it's it's named after my friend

448
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Iberd, who I hope either he kills himself or

449
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: or I kill him, right, the deer and the deer,

450
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: not the human. But but we have tons of trail

451
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: camera pictures of him from over the years. We have UM.

452
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: I've had one encounter with him and you know we

453
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: found sheds, So you know what, what better story? Yeah,

454
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: that's a That is the coolest thing I think for

455
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: me over the last like five years, as I've taken

456
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: this whole, you know, my my passion for deer hunting

457
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: to a new level. And with trail cameras today and

458
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, with filming deer that a lot of us do,

459
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 1: it allows you to build these to get to know

460
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: the specific deer, learn these deer, and and build that

461
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: storyline in that history that I don't know. For me,

462
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: that just makes it so cool. I mean, if I

463
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: think you know almost any circumstance, if you said, okay,

464
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I'll put a random giant in front of your tree stand,

465
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: and then I'll put a smaller deer that you have

466
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: several years of history with, which would you shoot, I'm

467
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: always going to go for that dear he had the

468
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: history with, because for me, it's not about how big

469
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: a deer it is. I mean, of course it's some

470
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: of the things that they matter to a degree, but

471
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 1: in the end, it's not what matters most for me.

472
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: It's it's the challenge. It's all the work that went

473
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: into it's all the memories, it's all the different pieces

474
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: of the puzzle that led to a single point of success.

475
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: And with this deer that you have this longer term

476
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: history with, you know, like the deer I killed this

477
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: December with three years of all these different things that

478
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: leap to that point, Gosh, it it just meant the world.

479
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: It's a it's an incredible feeling and journey. And I

480
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: think now with you know, with the ability to build

481
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: that history with a deer. It is just the coolest thing.

482
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: For the rest of my life, I'm pretty sure I'm

483
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna really gonna be going to continue to be focusing

484
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: on hunting these deer, specific deer, hunting the specific deer

485
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: that I've gotten to know and built a history with,

486
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: and then targeting that specific deer. Um. That's a pretty

487
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: cool thing. Right now, I do want to tell you something,

488
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel that you should be completely

489
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: honored by what I'm going to tell you. Okay, I'm

490
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: naming I'm naming a buck after you because as of

491
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: right now, one of the biggest bucks I have on

492
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: trail camera. I'm calling Mark Kenyon because you found his

493
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: shed this past season. Oh, he's back on camera. He's back.

494
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, he is. He's got splip brow times, he's

495
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: got um you found what side? Did you find? The

496
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: left or the right side? Oh? Gosh, I think it's

497
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: the left. And he had a kind of a kicker

498
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: off the brow. Yeah, he's got the Jesus bad I

499
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: can't remember. He's got a little kicker off the brow.

500
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: And then he's got the flyer, a little hook flyer

501
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: off the G two, I think right, yep, same characteristics.

502
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: The other side has a bigger split on the brow.

503
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Looks like he's got to have a kicker off his

504
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: um kicker off his other G two as well. But um,

505
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: he is mass mass mass mass mass mass And the

506
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: last picture that I have of him looks to be

507
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: on the July so I haven't checked this this uh um,

508
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: next couple or let's see, yeah, Saturday, I'm going to

509
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: check my trail cameras, so i'll I should have a

510
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: picture of him fully developed, hopefully, and if I was

511
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: to guess following the you know, if I just imagine

512
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: the rest of his antlers fully grown, that he's gonna

513
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: be booner status this year as probably that's probably a

514
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: five year old. So you should be completely honored, dude.

515
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: That is that is awesome. I didn't did you post

516
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: photos of him on your blog or no? Yeah, he's

517
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: on He's on the nine finger Chronicle dot com under

518
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: a blog called the Velvet Rut Second Card Bowl. Man.

519
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: I thought I looked at all those, but I guess

520
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: I must have missed her, didn't recognize him or something

521
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: because I just glossed over it. Because I did not

522
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: realize you had him back on camera. That is awesome. Yeah,

523
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: So now I hope you don't get mad because you

524
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: know the rules. I this, this is the first thing

525
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: that came in my head when he said he's back.

526
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say. I know what's happening here.

527
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I know if if he gets killed, you're gonna have

528
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: to give up the biggest shed you've ever found. I know.

529
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: And it's gonna I'm gonna cry a little bit. I'm

530
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: gonna right now. It has a very special place on

531
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: my It is the shed on my coffee room table.

532
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm not a coffee room on the coffee table in

533
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: my man cave. It's like the prize possession and you're

534
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna take it away from me. But I'm

535
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: okay with that. But I'll tell you what, man, the

536
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: I've found some pretty big sheds in my day, not

537
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, not crazy like nothing in the hundreds or nineties.

538
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: But out of the five biggest sheds that I've ever found,

539
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I've had to give two to I gave two of

540
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: them away because the hunter killed the buck. Yeah, so

541
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: I've given away I think a sixty eight inch side

542
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: and then like a seventy one inch side, so and

543
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: you know the other one are actually three because two

544
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: days prior to the shed hunt, a guy found the

545
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: other shed. So I'm the kind of person who's like, man,

546
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: these sheds have got to be matched up to fully

547
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: get you know, the full feel of a of a

548
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: shed and a deer. You gotta have the matching side together.

549
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: So I gave it up to the guy and that was.

550
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: That was in the sixties as well. But yeah, um,

551
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: so this time I'm here. If you can hear me

552
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: rubbing my hands together like evil villain, and I can

553
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: see the look on your face to that smartass smirk.

554
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, other than him, you know, as far as

555
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: the hit list is concerned, I got another he looks

556
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be a ten um and then a

557
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: bucket called Billy Ripkin. I hadn't encounter with him last year. Um,

558
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Billy Ripkin has an otherwise, No, he has another name

559
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: called um. I won't swear on the show, but it's

560
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: starts with an F and it's Billy Ripkin F face.

561
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: And for those of you guys who have collected baseball

562
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: cards and the like, the late eighties early nineties, um

563
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Cal Ripkins son Billy Ripkin, I believe had was a

564
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: baseball player for the Baltimore Orioles and on the end

565
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: of his bat he had a smiley face with the

566
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: term f face on it and it didn't get edited

567
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: and all of these baseball cards got distributed. So there's

568
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: the backstory here. I was, you know, with an eleven

569
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: as maybe eleven year old with profanity on a baseball card,

570
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: and I thought it was like one of the coolest things.

571
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: That's a pretty funny story the back store. That's pretty good. Yeah,

572
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: So there's that, there's that. How big is he? You know?

573
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Last year he was probably one sixty as this this

574
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: is a deer that was was actually probably a three

575
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: or four year old last year in the one sixties.

576
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: He this dear is a genetics like genetic specimen. He's

577
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: got the inside points. He's got the last year he

578
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: had the double main beams. He's gonna be wide or

579
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: not double main beams, or like a kicker coming off

580
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: the inside of his main beams. He had um some

581
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: splits as well. So from a genetic standpoint, he's awesome.

582
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: This year. Honestly, it looks like he's gonna be wider,

583
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more mass and I it's hard

584
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: to tell because my last picture of him is on

585
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: July six, so he's only half your own. Man, I

586
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: can't I can't wait to see what you get on

587
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: Saturday on camera right. And I'll make sure all the

588
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: pictures are posted to the nine Finger chronicles so everybody

589
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: can everybody can see beautiful. We'll make sure to get

590
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: those linked up there too. Um Man, that's awesome. Yeah.

591
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I I've got one more question for you related to

592
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: bucks and and and what you're shooting for, and then

593
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I want to take a turn a little bit, um

594
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: to think about some of the other goals we have

595
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: for the season outside of just you know, the deer

596
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: specific but um but sticking with us, you know, do

597
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: you have do you set any kind of standards for

598
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: yourself in regards to you know, outside of these deer

599
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: that you specifically have pictures of them you know you're targeting.

600
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Do you set like I'm shooting for a certain age deer,

601
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm shooting for a certain you know, size antler deer

602
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: or you know. I remember watching a video you were

603
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: on Dan where you this is one of my favorite

604
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: things before I even knew you. I saw you shoot

605
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: this deer and you said, uh, you said that dear

606
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: made me Ah, so I knew I had to shoot him. Yeah.

607
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Is that is that all you're waiting for? Is that

608
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: the criteria? What for you needs to happen in order

609
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: for you to shoot a deer? This fault? What do you?

610
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: What's your what's your criteria? You know at the first

611
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: the first thing I kind of look at is not

612
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: about um. You know that that has something to do

613
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: with it. The deer has to catch catch my attention.

614
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: And that's the whole point of putting together a hit list.

615
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: So first off, you know what deer in your area.

616
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: You can judge them saying yes, I'm either going to

617
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: hold out for this one or um, he's not old

618
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: enough yet, you know. Um. But it's not about necessarily

619
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: to kill, like I said, it's watching these dear grow

620
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: to try to to try to reach their um their potential.

621
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: You know, I have guys tell me all the time, dude,

622
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: you're crazy. You don't you haven't killed a lot of

623
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: big bucks. But I'm not. I'm a hunter, but I

624
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: don't want you know, I have the ability to. I've

625
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: had encounters with world class animals. Unfortunately I haven't had

626
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: to kill you know, I haven't had an opportunity to

627
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: kill some of them. But you know, for me, it's

628
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: having the encounters seeing the deer on the hoof, you know,

629
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: trying to trying to play that cat and mouse game

630
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: that we all play every year to try to get

631
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, in touch with or to get in contact

632
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: with these with these giants, and um, I don't know,

633
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's it's strange because you know, they

634
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: gotta for me, I don't want to shoot a young

635
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: deer for because in my area, I'm blessed to have

636
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: good genetics. I'm blessed to have an older you know,

637
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: a good age structure, and um, you know antler size, Yes,

638
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: is awesome when a giant comes walking through the timber

639
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: or along the field edge or whatnot. But you know,

640
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of hard. It's kind of

641
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: hard to explain because I will shoot a deer that

642
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: is is a big, mature deer that I've never seen before.

643
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm that's my only criteria. If any

644
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: of that makes sense, Yeah, yeah, no, it does, for sure.

645
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a tough question to answer. I think

646
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: everyone's got a different answer to UM and I and

647
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: especially this year. You know, my my goal is to

648
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: try to set Ryan up to be successful. Um, but

649
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna definitely be able to hunt, you know,

650
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: if he tags out or if I have UM, if

651
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: he tags out, or if you know, something happens before

652
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: he comes on vacation, I'll be I'll be hunting as well. Um.

653
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: You know this year, I really do want to kill

654
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: a couple more doughs. Uh. Number one because I want

655
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: to fill my freezer. And number two, I just I

656
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: love hunting. Does you know? I don't know, there's something

657
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily the kill itself, but just eating. For me,

658
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: it's like I eating this food is like I I

659
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: killed this animal myself. I didn't get it from a

660
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: grocery store. And then like watching my family eat it

661
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: or um, you know, friends eat it. It's kind of

662
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: cool like providing I don't know it's that's kind of

663
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: off topic, but but totally relate love love, being able

664
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: to provide love, having that connection with your food. UM,

665
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: that's huge. I'm right there with you. So yeah, I'm uh,

666
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm as excited for this season, even though

667
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I know that I'm not going to be able to

668
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: hunt as much um as any other season because I

669
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: know I'll be spending time in a tree with a

670
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: good friend sharing uh, this sport that we love, and uh,

671
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, early season, I'm heading out

672
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: to Nebraska for um. You old your hunt. It was

673
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: something brand new I've never done before, expecting to fail,

674
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: but um, that's kind of what I'm looking forward to

675
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: right now. It's awesome. That is awesome. I think, Um,

676
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things you said made a lot of

677
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: sense to me too, and it resonated with me. Um.

678
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: I think this is something too that I want to

679
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: make sure that to all the listeners. This is something

680
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: that happens a lot. I think a lot of people

681
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, what's on TV or what they

682
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: see in the magazines, and they see everyone talking about

683
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: booners are shooting one eighties or two bucks? Are all

684
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: these different types of deer? People like us talking about

685
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been seeing these great, big giant

686
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: deer and I've been seeing these great, big giant deer

687
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: and I'm holding out for certain things. And I think

688
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: so many people in the media talking about this can

689
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: send up sometimes a dangerous message to other hunters out

690
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: there and puts a pressure on people that I think

691
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: is is unnecessary and is unfortunate. And so I just

692
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: want to make a disclaimer here or mentioned the fact

693
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: that to all of you out there listening, you never

694
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: feel that what you want to shoot, or what you're

695
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: going to shoot or target or hunt for that shouldn't

696
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: be affected or influenced by what I'm hunting or dance hunting,

697
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: or what anyone on TV is doing. You know, you

698
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: need to find out what's right for you, what is

699
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: where you are in your journey as a hunter, and

700
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: your goals. You know, set those for yourself. Look inside

701
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: when you make those goals and those decisions. Don't worry

702
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: about what you see in magazines, don't worry about what

703
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: they say on TV um because unfortunate. That's that's I

704
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: think negatively influenced a lot of things in the hunting community.

705
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: And I'm as guilty as anyone in you know, promoting

706
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, some of those I've talked about big deer

707
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: all the time. We love big deer, and that's okay.

708
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: It's okay to target big deer. It's okay to get

709
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: excited about all that. I just want to make sure

710
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: that we're not pressuring people to do the same. Everyone's

711
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: going to be at a different step on the ladder.

712
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm a big, big believer in this idea of being

713
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: on the ladder when it comes to hunting, and you're

714
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: taking things one wrong at a time. And for me,

715
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm still relatively low on that ladder. I've come a

716
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: long ways, but I've still got a long ways to go,

717
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: and my goals will change accordingly. And for new hunters

718
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: out there, you know, be comfortable with the fact that

719
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: of where you are and and take one take it

720
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: one step at a time, I think is maybe the

721
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: the message I'm trying to share it here well. And

722
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: the thing about it even are even all of our

723
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: quote unquote professional hunters and guests that we've already had

724
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: on the podcast have admitted that the hunting industry, you're

725
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: only seeing the best of the best. They don't have

726
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: time to show failure. You know, if they want to

727
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: make all their sponsors happy, they get seventeen to eighteen

728
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: minutes of actual footage. You cannot put in an entire

729
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: season or even a four day trip into that amount

730
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: of time without leaving something out. These guys fail twice

731
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: as much as the regular hunters out there due because

732
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: they're you know, the best part about it is though

733
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: they have more time in the woods than us straight up,

734
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: so they're gonna you're gonna see more from them because

735
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: that is their job. They're filming hunts all day long,

736
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: every day during the hunting season, so they're exposed to

737
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: this more. It's, you know, simple statistics. If you're in

738
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: the woods more, you're gonna see more. Dear, if you're

739
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: at your job or sitting on your couch, you're not

740
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: going to see that. Yeah, so so only you me,

741
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: you the listeners have the ability to change that, you know,

742
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: just I I hate it when people complain. My biggest

743
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: the thing that pisces me off the most is, you know,

744
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: you go to these trade shows like, you know, oh

745
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: that's a good buck, you know, what do you shoot

746
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: this year? And then they'll show me a one twenty

747
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: class and in my area class I'd passed. But that's me.

748
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: These guys are saying, well, if I didn't shoot this one,

749
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: my neighbor would have. I don't want to talk to

750
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: this guy ever again, because unless you learn from that,

751
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: you're not. I mean, I'm going off on a straight

752
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: tangent right now, but this this thing, this kind of

753
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: stuff makes me mad. You know, you can't change the

754
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: world if you about it. Yeah, yeah, I know that.

755
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: Like you said that as a tangents a whole another conversation,

756
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, that's okay, No, it's a good one, um.

757
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things that for for some people,

758
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: there's the goal of killing the mature deer or every

759
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: year killing them bigger deer, or targeting a different deer

760
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: or a greater challenge every year, and for that person

761
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: to make an excuse like that that my neighbor is

762
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: going to shoot it. Well, as Leelakowski said in our podcast,

763
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: you know a couple months ago, if you're saying that,

764
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: you are that guy you're talking about. But but at

765
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: the same time, I want to make sure to be clear,

766
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: at least me personally, I'm not going to judge someone

767
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: if they hunt in Vermont and a chance that a

768
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: ten inch buck is a chance of a lifetime and

769
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: they're super stoked to kill that hunter eight pointer. Good

770
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: for you, Like that's awesome. Go for it. Do what

771
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: makes you happy. Um, Hunting is supposed to be fun.

772
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be connecting to nature, getting you know,

773
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: harvesting food, getting back into becoming a part of the

774
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: circle of life, and without getting too you know mostegui here.

775
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: No matter what the size of the deer is, that's

776
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: an important thing, and I want to, you know, make

777
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: sure to mention that and just to make because we

778
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: can sometimes get so focused on antlers and body size

779
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: and all that, and that's important, but it's part of it.

780
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Well when it's getting it's hard not to when it's

781
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: getting crammed down your throat every day. And uh so, yeah,

782
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: that's There's a whole lot of different things going here.

783
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: And I think this is a good transition to the

784
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: second portion of what I want to talk about here,

785
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: because we spent this first half for three quarters of

786
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: our of our show here they're talking about the size

787
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: deer we want to shoot, the specific deer we want

788
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: to shoot, and like we said, that's important. But there

789
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: is another side of of what I'm hoping for and

790
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: dreaming of and what my goals are for the two

791
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen season, and they're just as important. But sometimes

792
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: in the media, this portion of it gets slit under

793
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: the table or not talked about it because it's not

794
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: as sexy, it's not as glossy, it's not your magazine

795
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: cover buck um. But it's some horton. So you know,

796
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: for me, there's a few things really high level that

797
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to accomplish this year. Um every year really,

798
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to hear what you have to to

799
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: say too, damn, But I'll just throw out a couple

800
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: of things for me that are goals for two thousand fourteen.

801
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, every year I go into a season, I

802
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: want to look at something I did poorly in the

803
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: year past and I want to change that into a

804
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: success in the future season um, or or something I've

805
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: learned that I was not doing quite right. I want

806
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: to take that lesson and apply to the new year.

807
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: So one of the things for me, for example, that

808
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: I want to get better at this season is how

809
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm using the wind. And this is one of those

810
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: things where, um, I'm not gonna dive too deep into it,

811
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: but I've always been really focused on making sure the

812
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: wind is in my favor, and I want to do

813
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: a better job this season. Of making sure I'm hunting

814
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: deer with the wind in their favor at least they think,

815
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: but me being right on that edge where I can

816
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: just get way with it. But because I it's it's

817
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: it's not I think I know that that is a

818
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: proven way to kill big, mature deer because they are

819
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: going to want that when in their favor more often

820
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: than not. So if I can find ways to make

821
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: them think they have in their favor but still somehow

822
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: get away with it, I'm going to have more success.

823
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: So that's something I'm really gonna be thinking a lot

824
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: about this year when I'm planning and where I'm hunting,

825
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: when I'm hunting, why I'm hunting that wind. I want

826
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: to apply this lesson learned, and I want to have

827
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: some success with that in two thousand and fourteen. Another

828
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: thing I want to do every year is I want

829
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: I want to see tangible evidence of the fact that

830
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: all these different because there's many different lessons I've learned,

831
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I want to see tangible evidence that I am applying

832
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: those correctly. So the evidence I'm looking for is I'm

833
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: looking for more encounters with maturityer, the type of deer

834
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm targeting, and then I of course would like to

835
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: see hopefully a kill or too um this season as

836
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 1: well as again that would be evidence of the fact

837
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: that all this work I've done, all these lessons learned,

838
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: are coming to fruition and are paying off. So there's

839
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: a couple of things I'm gonna be looking for as well.

840
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: And then of course I want to learn. I want

841
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: to enjoy myself. I want to spend time with friends

842
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: and family. I want to I want to find some

843
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: ways to spend some time more time with my dad

844
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: this season. Um, Given how you know, seriously I am

845
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: about deer hunting. Sometimes I get so obsessed with going

846
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: to this state or that state or hunting my best

847
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: spots all the time that I'm not getting to spend

848
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: as much time back with the family. And that's really

849
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: where it all started from me. Um. So that's something

850
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I want to do more of this season. Um. And

851
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: then the final thing with you know, I'll stop my

852
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: ranting here when it comes for goals for me relates

853
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: to everything we've just talked about, and it's that pressure,

854
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: and I want to try to not get so affected,

855
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: not be so affected by that pressure, the pressure to

856
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: kill a certain caliber deer, the pressure to kill a

857
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: deer at all. Um. These are certain pressures that I

858
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: put on myself. These are pressures that maybe any one

859
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: of us might feel because of our peers, or because

860
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: of our positions, or because of anything. There's any times,

861
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: pressure to succeed or kill or get a big buck,

862
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and it has impacted me negatively in

863
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and I've had to battle through that,

864
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: try and stay positive, trying to not get down on myself,

865
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: trying to This is supposed to be fun. This is

866
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be This is what I enjoy the most,

867
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: and I don't want any of this other stuff, these pressures,

868
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: to ever change that. And so I'm going to make

869
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: I've made a concerted effort the past, you know, last

870
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: win or two, but this year, I really want to

871
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: make sure that I don't get overly concerned about the

872
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: tangibles like a kill, or like a certain deer or

873
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: anything like that, because those are important and I'm excited

874
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: about that. It's a challenge, but it's not everything, and

875
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: you've got to have fun out there, and that's what

876
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: it woils down to. I mean, I don't know, it's

877
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: all about fun and you know, there's different levels of

878
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: fun that like we've talked about, But that's kind of

879
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: the kind of all what it boils down to. Yeah.

880
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: So uh so that's my kind of my fluffier goals

881
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: for the season. But but I think equally important to

882
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: everything else we talked about. But but what about you, Dan?

883
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: Are you in the same page with me on some

884
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: of those things? Are there other things that I missed

885
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: or what for you will help make this season of success. Well,

886
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a loaner when it comes to my family. Um,

887
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: they only I have relatives who hunt, but they don't

888
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: live next to me. Um. I really like being out

889
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: by myself. I'm not gonna lie. Um. Yes, I love sharing,

890
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: um sharing the footage. And you know I filmed myself

891
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: when I don't have a cameraman. And this year my

892
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: focus is going to be on Ryan. Um. But for

893
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: some there's something about my job and cell phones and

894
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: TVs and all these things that I feel at times

895
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm I'm away from nature, you know, basically unplugging, and

896
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: that's what the outdoors and hunting for me. It is

897
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: a get way. I love not having cell phone service. Um,

898
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: I love not being able to. You know, I hate

899
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: to say it, but I love being in a situation

900
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: where if there was an emergency, nobody but myself could

901
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: help me, if that makes sense. And even if it's

902
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: being three or four yards away from your truck, you know,

903
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: just sitting down and you know, um, Jim Shocky kind

904
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: of put it best last week, where you throw that

905
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: rock in the pond and you see the ripples. That's

906
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: kind of life. Your life is chaos and and disorder.

907
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: You get into nature, you sit in that tree stand

908
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: or you're in your blind or whatever you're doing fishing,

909
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, fishing, turkey hunting, and you just kind of

910
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: disconnect and absorb. And that's my favorite part of hunting.

911
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: It's I mean really it's not even about hunting. It's

912
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: just being outside. And that is what my favorite thing

913
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: is about hunting, which allows me to do that, you know,

914
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: other the other goals, you know, like I said, getting

915
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, getting Ryan his deer. Um. You know, I

916
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: would love to get a dear too. I want to

917
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: kill a couple of does for food, meeting the freezer

918
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: type of situation, um, you know, enjoying the outdoors. I

919
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: want to see if the new strategy that I've come

920
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: up with on a certain particular spot or spots is

921
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: going to pay off. You know, coming in from a

922
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: different access point, UM, hunting a different wind at a

923
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: at the same location, you know, a past location. UM

924
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: seeing if you know my I guess my experiments, because

925
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of what it is. You know, you fail,

926
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: You've got to go back to the drawing board, and

927
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: going back to the drawing board and trying these new experiments,

928
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: UM at some of these different locations. See if they

929
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: pay off. See if some of the work I've done

930
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: preseason hanging these stands in these new locations is gonna.

931
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 1: UM is gonna you know, provide an encounter or even

932
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: a kill. And and like you said, man, just having fun.

933
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I just got really excited, Like

934
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: you explaining what your goals are and me explaining what

935
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: my goals are. I just got super pumped about this

936
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: upcoming season. And uh, you know, I got I got

937
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: pictures of my deer up in front of me from

938
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: previous years and from this year. And you know, don't

939
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Giant bucks are awesome. That that's

940
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: why we do what we what we're doing. That's why

941
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: this podcast really exists and and why we go out

942
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: in the hunt is that one hope that we have

943
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: a gigantic buck walk through and we kill it mountain

944
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: hanging on our wall. And if you can get all

945
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: and if you can slow down and get all that

946
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: other stuff while pursuing your goal, you know, that's that's

947
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: even better. Yeah, And I would I would say at

948
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: the same time, if your only goal is to get

949
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: that gigantic buck and you don't allow yourself to join

950
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: those all the other times, then it's all for not

951
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: as well. I I my opinion would would be, why

952
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: are you hunting? If you're hunting just for antlers? Antlers, that's,

953
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that's a waste of the life of

954
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: an animal. Agree. And it's that's the tricky balance that

955
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I personally feel like I'm trying to

956
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: walk because it's so easy. Like you said, big bucks

957
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: are awesome. We love talking about them, we like strategizing

958
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: how to kill them. Um, we dream about them, and

959
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: that's okay, UM, But just as important to remember that

960
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: it's very important to remember there's a whole lot more

961
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: going on here. There's a whole lot more trying to

962
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: achieve and like you said, to just boil it down

963
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: to just that deer. You know, a set of antlers

964
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: is taking something away from the hunt, is taking away

965
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: something from the deer. It's taking away something from yourself.

966
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: And we all, whether it be all of our listeners,

967
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: you me, everyone in the hunting media, we all need

968
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: to make sure we keep that top of mind through

969
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: everything we do. Um. It's tough to do, but it's

970
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: something we need to remember because that's important, right right,

971
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: And it's a learning experience. Yeah, you know, it's I get,

972
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm gonna use my stepdad as an

973
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: example here. He is if it's brown, it's down type

974
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: of hunter, okay, and he he tries to Um, let's see,

975
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: his main goal is to share time with his sons

976
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: and to share you know, stories and experiences with myself

977
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: and his sons. Um, that's what he loves about the outdoors.

978
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: He's not you know, in a way, I'm jealous of

979
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: him because he's not influenced by you know, age structure,

980
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: he's not influenced by rack size, He's not. He's out there.

981
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: He's almost more of a hunter than I am. In

982
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: a way, when you think about it, because he is

983
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: out there to hunt and have a and enjoy time

984
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: with his family, and you know, in a way, I'm

985
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: a little bit jealous of him. Yeah, I think there's

986
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: there's something we said about that. And what another thing

987
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: made me think of was the fact that these goals

988
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: that we have, they evolve over time exactly. I think

989
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: that there is a I've heard people talk about tradic

990
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: a typical kind of pattern that most hunters go through. Um.

991
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: And there's like that first stage where you just want

992
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: to kill your first dear, and then you get to

993
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: the next stage where we want to kill a lot

994
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: of deer, and then you get to the next stage

995
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: maybe with some people, where they want to kill bigger deer,

996
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: and then you know one specific deer, and then there's

997
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: a transition that I think a lot of people. I

998
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: saw my grandpa go through this where he went into

999
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: this phase where he moved on to he wants to

1000
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: help his son kill a deer, wants to help his

1001
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: grandkids kill it. Here he just wants to spend time

1002
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: with family. He just wants to see dear or help dear. Um.

1003
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cool that transition and probably to

1004
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: two differing degrees. We'll all go through some type of

1005
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: evolution as a hunter and what we are looking to

1006
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: get from it and what it means to us, and

1007
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: and that's pretty neat, and I think it's uh, I

1008
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: think it's too. I think it's important to respect everyone

1009
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: in the different place they might be at on that path.

1010
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, like you said though a couple minutes ago,

1011
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: I am just jacked talking to all about that. I'm

1012
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: just uh, like last week or a couple of days ago,

1013
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: I woke up and it was like forty four degrees

1014
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: in the morning. Yeah, and I just it's exactly. I

1015
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: was just sitting I was like, I gotta get in

1016
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: the woods. That's time to go. I man, I'm pumped.

1017
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time keeping it together here because

1018
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: on twenty three days, twenty three days, I had to

1019
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: Idaho on my first hunt for the season, and that's

1020
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: for elk. And then I think it's something like thirty

1021
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: eight days from now or something thirty six I start

1022
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: hunting for white tails in Ohio and then four days later,

1023
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: five days later something like that, it's in Michigan, maybe Indiana,

1024
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: and before you know, it's gonna be here. And stuff

1025
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: is gonna get real. So I can't wait counting. Oh,

1026
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: he's counting down. How many days you got? Damn? I

1027
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: got fifteen or sixteen days until I had to Nebraska

1028
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: for my meal. Your hunt, man, It's gonna be exciting.

1029
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: But you know, kind of closing things up here. What

1030
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about for this hunting season, on top

1031
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: of everything we've talked about, is something that I want

1032
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: to do here with the podcast Dan, and that is

1033
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: that I want to use our weekly episodes here as

1034
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: we get going once a hunting season gets going, to

1035
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: really fill our listeners in on what's happening in the woods,

1036
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: What are the current conditions, what are the patterns we're seeing,

1037
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: what are the stories and experiences and the I'm sure

1038
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: the many failures that we have along the way too.

1039
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm pretty pumped to share our stories as we go

1040
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: week by weeks of this season, and uh, I think

1041
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: that should be pretty interesting, hopefully and helpful. And so

1042
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm stoked for that to happen. Stoked to

1043
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: get the season going and to to start the story

1044
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: of two thousand fourteen because it's gonna be one heck

1045
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: of a story. Well, you think about it, It's the

1046
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: next chapter. Man. You mean you've been out there, You've

1047
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: found the sheds, You've you've done the scouting. The next

1048
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: chapter is starting the hunt, you know, And I don't know. Man, Okay,

1049
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: I gotta stop because I'm getting fired up because I

1050
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: mean tonight, um, I still have to There's still a

1051
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: lot to be done too. You know. I still have

1052
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: to check trail cameras. I still have to move trail cameras. Hell,

1053
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: I still have to. I got a new site, thanks

1054
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan. I got new broad heads, and um I have.

1055
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: I got a site in my bow and resited in

1056
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: and I still got you know, some some trick or

1057
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: some tree stands to trim out. So I'm not even

1058
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get all this stuff done. But

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Speaker 1: I've never been a d percent prepared for a season,

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Speaker 1: so that's part of it. Yeah. Yeah, same here. I'm

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Speaker 1: planning on next weekend. I just set aside the weekend

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Speaker 1: in Michigan done. I just told the wife, Hey, I

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Speaker 1: need like two solid days just to finish everything I

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Speaker 1: possibly can. And then what I always like to do

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Speaker 1: entire month leading up to the opener. So that's what

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Speaker 1: I hope I can do. So we'll see a lot

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Speaker 1: of work to do. But I think, uh um, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're just about done here. But I know

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Speaker 1: that you're a kind of advocate for these guys, and

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Speaker 1: I know I am too. I just want to let

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Speaker 1: everybody know about the National Deer Alliance, that it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a big thing helping white tail hunters and all

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Speaker 1: deer hunters kind of um, I don't know what's the word,

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Speaker 1: come together. Yeah, yeah, And I think that's an awesome

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Speaker 1: thing to mention. Thanks for bringing that up. Um. The

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Speaker 1: National Deer a Liance yet launched this summer or just

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago really, and like you said, it's

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Speaker 1: it's an organization that's going to try to act kind

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Speaker 1: of similar to how the n r A works on

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Speaker 1: behalf of gun owners. The National Deer Alliance is looking

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Speaker 1: deer hunters across the country. So it's very cool visit

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Speaker 1: www dot National Deer Alliance dot com uh to join.

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Speaker 1: It's free, and um, there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: cool stuff coming from them in the future. They're they're

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Speaker 1: just starting up right now, but some very cool things

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Speaker 1: coming up in some some exciting announcements to come on

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Speaker 1: that for too. I've been involved in that two degrees,

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Speaker 1: so excited to talk about that more in the future.

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping to get some people from the organization

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Speaker 1: itself on the podcast here soon to to really dive

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Speaker 1: into detail about you know, what the NDA is going

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Speaker 1: to be about, how people can get involved, and what

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Speaker 1: we can hope to see from from that organization in

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Speaker 1: the future. So awesome plugged in. Yeah, I had to

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Speaker 1: help you out. Good stuff. Good stuff. So that said, then,

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Speaker 1: I think, like you said, we should close things up here.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully you guys enjoyed the show. We were definitely

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Speaker 1: hope for two thousand and fourteen. But hopefully it got

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Speaker 1: your brain moving, got you thinking, got you excited, and

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Speaker 1: before you know it, the season is going to be here.

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Speaker 1: So if you did enjoy the show, you know, as

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Speaker 1: we always say we would really appreciate if you could

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Speaker 1: leave a rating or review on iTunes. We've gotten forty

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Speaker 1: eight awesome reviews already or somewhere around there, and gosh,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate. It's great. Appreciate you guys been saying sounds

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Speaker 1: it's super easy going to iTunes, click into our podcast.

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Speaker 1: You'll see a little button to leave a rating or

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Speaker 1: review and it takes just a minute. So thank you

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Speaker 1: advanced if you get a chance to do that. And

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Speaker 1: of course, we also want to thank our partners who

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Speaker 1: dot com slash episode twenty to view some notes from

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Speaker 1: our episode today. And I'm gonna include links to the

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Speaker 1: blog post from my blog and Dan's where we have

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Speaker 1: a few other things that were relevant to our discussion.

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Speaker 1: So thank you wire hunt Nation for being with us today,

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Speaker 1: uh for you know, being as excited as we are

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Speaker 1: about white tails. It's an awesome thing and we're really

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Speaker 1: fortunately we can sharelette with you, So thank you. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, Stay wired Hunt H