WEBVTT - He Pulled A Grammy

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshon and Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Super Bowl week. It's an exciting time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>already dusting off my Buffalo chicken dip recipe for a

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<v Speaker 1>party I'm going to this Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait. Hopefully snow gets clear.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still freezing over here on the East Coast for

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<v Speaker 1>people to get around safely. It's unbelievable how much snow

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<v Speaker 1>and how cold it still is.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Jeff, I had someone at a birthday party tell

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<v Speaker 3>me the other day that he thinks the snow will

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<v Speaker 3>be here until the start of the Olympics, which is

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<v Speaker 3>February the sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff I told him it's going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be here to the start of the baseball season, which

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<v Speaker 3>is March twenty seventh. I mean, there is no end

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<v Speaker 3>in sight here. The high school, the public school kids

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<v Speaker 3>in our neighborhood where you went to school, we're out

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<v Speaker 3>of school for six straight days. They might go back

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<v Speaker 3>today Tuesday, but on Monday they made six straight school

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<v Speaker 3>days out and the roads are clear, but there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much ice and snow built up that entire lanes have

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<v Speaker 3>not been completely shoveled off.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess it makes it dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we're going to see grass in the

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<v Speaker 3>state of Maryland until March. I really believe that. That's

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<v Speaker 3>how cold it still is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so bad, Dad, that my wife Emily just

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<v Speaker 1>instructed me to shovel our grass so that the dog

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<v Speaker 1>has a place to go pee.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, can you shovel a strip of grass

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<v Speaker 1>out so he can go pea somewhere? Because he's been

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<v Speaker 1>peeing on concrete and asphalt for the last week and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and it's getting to the point where it

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<v Speaker 1>rolls down the asphalt onto his paws, and the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of clean his paws. He's pooping in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the road, Dad, I mean, dog owners out there are

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<v Speaker 1>going nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Me as well, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a dog also, Rex. He's pooping all over

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<v Speaker 3>the place, but not at least not in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, these are desperate times. They call for

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<v Speaker 3>desperate measures. If you have to poop on the top

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<v Speaker 3>of some snow, that's sorry. Just the way it works.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the way I mean. He doesn't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to go in the snow. And my male dog, Ranger

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<v Speaker 1>pee is like a girl dog, so he doesn't lift

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<v Speaker 1>a leg, so he could pee on a little snow mountain,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't know how to. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>raised by female dogs and so he has to pee

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<v Speaker 1>like a girl dog. And then he doesn't like his

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, touching the snow. It's a whole thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's driving me nuts. So I'm gonna go after this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast shovel snow off of a grass yard, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to tear up all the grass.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure I've ever heard that sentence before, go shovel the grass?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, shovel? Can you shovel your front yard for me?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what's going on in our Kirkston household, Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was funny because just the other day we

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<v Speaker 1>were on a phone call with the incredible gentleman of

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<v Speaker 1>the Saber chapter in Las Vegas, that of which we

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<v Speaker 1>could not at all talk about the snow because they

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<v Speaker 1>have no relation because the storm that's hit the east coast.

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<v Speaker 1>How great was that time with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and remember the name of the chapter, Jeff the

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<v Speaker 3>Maddox brothers, Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so good. We talked about Mike Maddox.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about Greg Mannox, baseball in Las Vegas and

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<v Speaker 3>baseball all over the place. Jeff, you were the youngest

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<v Speaker 3>guy there for sure. By how many years would you say?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There was a gentleman, if I caught

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<v Speaker 1>his name properly, I think it was Brody sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the front right. He didn't ask any questions, but he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed he seemed right around my age. But yes, a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the gentlemen were a little closer to your generation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm might say. Let's let's just say there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of four oh.

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<v Speaker 1>One k money probably in this in this meeting, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were all really great guys, right.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of talk about Ted Williams and

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<v Speaker 3>Babe Ruth agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is a couple of jokes that that you

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<v Speaker 1>landed really great with the crowd that I mean went

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<v Speaker 1>way over my already really low to the ground head,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean five foot six, but they were they were

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<v Speaker 1>flying right over me. I had some references to players, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they got it. That's all that mattered.

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<v Speaker 2>They got it.

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<v Speaker 4>There was SABER.

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<v Speaker 3>SABER is a society of American Baseball Research, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I pop your grandfather.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad was a proud member, you know. Big.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad was a PhD in mathematics, loved baseball, so

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<v Speaker 3>he combined the two. So he got me involved. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been a member for years and years. Those people are

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<v Speaker 3>out of their minds, Jeff, and that is a compliment

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<v Speaker 3>because they love the game that much. So when you

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<v Speaker 3>you really need to know the deep inside story about

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<v Speaker 3>the history of the game, you should read things that

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<v Speaker 3>are on Saber because it's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dad, before we get into baseball, the Grammys were

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<v Speaker 1>this past Sunday night, and as a morning show host

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<v Speaker 1>for a country music station in Philadelphia ninety two five XCU,

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<v Speaker 1>I watch the Grammys, right, I have to. It's part

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<v Speaker 1>of my job because we're going to talk about it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Country music isn't necessarily the biggest thing at the Grammys, right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of other country music specific award shows that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously are a little bit more up my alley. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>I came up with a game to play with you

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<v Speaker 1>called Grammy Artist or Farce. Okay, So, Dad, the way

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<v Speaker 1>it works is I'm gonna name something.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to tell me whether it's a Grammy nominated

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<v Speaker 2>or Grammy winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Artist, or if it's if it's if it's farce, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fake that I'm trying to trick you with.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, I saw one of the the other day and

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<v Speaker 3>it was is this a prescription medicine or is it

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<v Speaker 3>a Pokemon character? That was an interesting juxtaposition, those two

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<v Speaker 3>right next to each other. By the way, Carson, your

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<v Speaker 3>godson just turned five. He loves Pokemon. So we were

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<v Speaker 3>over there for a party the other day and the

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<v Speaker 3>hour half an hour before the party was watching Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 3>You love that too, when you've grown up, right, If.

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<v Speaker 1>You or mom find my Pokemon cards, do not give them.

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<v Speaker 2>To my nephew, Do not open them.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not do anything with them, Dad, because if there

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<v Speaker 1>are cards in there that, by the way, are worth

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, because that generation of me growing

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<v Speaker 1>up collecting cards, those cards now are selling for I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not kidding, thousands and thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not give them to Carson to play with. Give

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<v Speaker 2>them to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I will shop them and I will set that kit

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<v Speaker 1>up for life. I'll buy his first house with those

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<v Speaker 1>Pokemon cards. But seemingly we can't seem to find my

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<v Speaker 1>binder of Pokemon cards.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you don't know this yet, Jeff, but I found

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<v Speaker 3>them and I've already turned him in. I got one

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<v Speaker 3>point two million dollars for those cards.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would be so upset.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there's a giant box in your closet here at home, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>It says baseball cards on it. It could be Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 1>Cards, it could be. But right next to it is

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<v Speaker 1>my karate belts. And I'll tell you those are worth nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't worth anything at the time, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Jeff, No, they weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff famously broke a board there without hitting it. The

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<v Speaker 3>instructor broke the board when Jeffrey was about eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Great job.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy broke the board for you so you would

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<v Speaker 3>join up for the next year, so we could spend

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<v Speaker 3>some more money on you, being one of the worst

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<v Speaker 3>martial artists I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yet we still went out for ice scream

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate my board breaking.

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<v Speaker 2>And you never told me to teenage.

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<v Speaker 3>Right next to basket robins. What a great idea, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great idea. Okay, well let's get back to

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<v Speaker 2>my grammy game. Are ready?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm gonna give you. I don't know anything about music.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that you're gonna do fine where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So these are Grammy nominated artists. Okay, you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if they if it's right or wrong. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>we'll start easy, all right, let's go with Kendrick Lamar.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Definitely a singer is.

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<v Speaker 2>A Grammy nominated artist?

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<v Speaker 1>Ding?

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct? Okay, Next one, Patagonia.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely not a singer. That is stepped.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the alternative singer or what it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Just artists or farce to rhyme. Yeah, it's a farce. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's correct. Okay, funko pop.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a farce.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't have a name of funk o pop.

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<v Speaker 1>Pop is a collectible toy. It's a far sure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thank you, right, Okay, what about let's see I

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<v Speaker 1>have it down here?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. What what about the Thundercat.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, that's a farce.

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<v Speaker 2>Grammy nominated artist Thundercat.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>What about King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard fars Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>also a Grammy nominated artist. Yes, we're going back in

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<v Speaker 1>time here to find the best ones. All right, next

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<v Speaker 1>one for you five guys, uh Grammys, No, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant chain you're thinking of, Dad, fars okay ours?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And then what about Minecraft?

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<v Speaker 4>That is a farce.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a farce. It is a video game. Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>you did better than I expected.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm surprised you didn't bring up Pitbull. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have gotten that one right.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Doci?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Doci is a Grammy nominated artist, Grammy winner.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right, Dad, way to go. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of her album.

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<v Speaker 3>That one, Oh God, so bad, Jeff. That time I

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<v Speaker 3>met Pitbull at the All Star Game was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the worst things ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Ad Nan Burk. I'm going to tell the story again.

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<v Speaker 3>Ad Nan Urke brings Pitbull over to me and says,

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<v Speaker 3>it says to pit Bull, before you bring your biggest

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<v Speaker 3>fan ever is right over here.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to go meet him.

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<v Speaker 3>And overcomes Pitbull and I have no idea who he is,

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<v Speaker 3>and he gives me this complicated handshake which I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even figure out. And uh, the next day because it

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<v Speaker 3>went out there because ad Nan sent it out. Me

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<v Speaker 3>meeting Pitbull. Thank god he didn't ask me, what's your

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<v Speaker 3>favorite song? The next day I told you this jet

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Trout, who at the time, was the best player

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball? Saw me on the field and said, and

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<v Speaker 3>with such reverence, it was unbelievable. He said, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe you met Pitbull.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me what it was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me what was like to stand right next to him, thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>this is Mike Trout. He's the Beatles come back to life. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>he's Elvis come back to life. And he's asking about

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<v Speaker 3>my encounter with Pitbull.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he that big at the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Dad, Yes, I mean he's massive, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking to mister three oh five.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and three oh five. I mean that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a good batting.

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<v Speaker 1>Average for a season, right, mister three oh five, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think right?

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<v Speaker 3>I nicknamed myself mister three oh one after that day

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<v Speaker 3>because I figured it was very symmetrical. Never mind Pitbull,

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<v Speaker 3>ad Nan, that was so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you could call Mike Trout mister three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six when he won Rookie of the Year batting

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<v Speaker 1>three twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really what you gotta be calling.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Drout was great, but he was truly truly impressed

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<v Speaker 3>that I had met Pitbull.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right, Dad, takeaways?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have for us?

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<v Speaker 3>Well as we get closer to spring training, we had

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of one year signings. Haanio Suarez, who hit

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine home runs last year with the Diamondbacks and

0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Mariners combined, has signed with the Reds. Of course, he

0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.560
<v Speaker 3>used to play for the Reds. Reds were a playoff

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<v Speaker 3>team last year. He definitely needed some punch somewhere in

0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.840
<v Speaker 3>that order, and he's going to provide it. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to strike out a lot, low batting average, but a

0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:47.280
<v Speaker 3>great teammate, a bet he's gotten much better defensively. And

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff forty nine homers, three hundred and twenty five homers

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<v Speaker 3>in his career.

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<v Speaker 4>He's thirty four years old.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna hit forty more this year, especially playing in

0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.280
<v Speaker 3>that ballpark. And the other is Willis Arise, a lifetime

0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Jeff three seventeen hitter, got a one year deal from

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<v Speaker 3>the Giant. So here's a guy with a three seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>average and another with forty nine homers. Luise Rise won

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<v Speaker 3>three batting titles and just got a one year deal

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<v Speaker 3>from the Giant.

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<v Speaker 4>So just shows you it's tough some days.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough being a free agent if you're not the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest name out there or at the perfect age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dad, Luisa, rise to me is such a question mark.

0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy gets on base.

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<v Speaker 1>He batted three point fifty four in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>How is he only knocking out these one year deals?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why is nobody locking him down?

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<v Speaker 3>Well again, in today's day and age, Jeff, he just

0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.000
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have the same value. He doesn't hit home runs,

0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.040
<v Speaker 3>he's not a plus defender, he doesn't run particularly well.

0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.560
<v Speaker 3>His on base percentage is good, but it's not great

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<v Speaker 3>for a three seventeen, and he doesn't walk very often.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can tell you when he went to the padres,

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<v Speaker 3>every one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Just war By, you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>He brought just an attack mode to the plate, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get hits today, We're going to put

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in play. They followed him and it really worked.

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<v Speaker 4>But in this day and.

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<v Speaker 3>Age, it doesn't work nearly as much as it did, say,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years ago. Now, obviously the job is to hit.

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<v Speaker 4>The ball out of the ballpark. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those are some big, big signings, Dad, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know there's still a couple free agents to fall, But

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a countdown of when do pitchers and

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<v Speaker 1>catchers report because everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean February, Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We have we have baseball this month. Shout out Bill

0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Chuck sending out his email for Billy Ball, he said, February,

0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.760
<v Speaker 1>we have baseball this month. I mean it's February third

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<v Speaker 1>on the release state, Dad, are we you know?

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<v Speaker 2>February tenth, eleventh, twelfth? Is that one catch a week?

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<v Speaker 4>Roughly a week away.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get rid of the super Bowl first,

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<v Speaker 3>then everything changes after that. It's just hard to consider

0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.000
<v Speaker 3>the spring training, JEF. When it's it was four degrees

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<v Speaker 3>outside this morning when I walked the dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, that was bad.

0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.520
<v Speaker 3>And yesterday I was outside in the wind for about

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<v Speaker 3>two hours. I'm not sure I've been that cold anytime recently.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really bad. But we're all good now.

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<v Speaker 1>On this date in baseball history, Dad, February the third,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of my favorite baseball names of all time

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<v Speaker 3>is Bake McBride. Bake McBride was a really good hitter

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<v Speaker 3>for the Phillies and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Cardinals and some others. He could really fly.

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<v Speaker 3>He was born on this date in nineteen forty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have something to tee up.

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<v Speaker 1>For us, right, Dad, Aaron Boone, the manager of the

0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.680
<v Speaker 1>New York Yankees. Obviously you two worked together at ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>for years, and in that time you were very very

0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.360
<v Speaker 1>close to each other. Now, obviously given his position and

0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.520
<v Speaker 1>your job as a journalist, not saying you guys aren't friends,

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<v Speaker 1>You're still friendly, absolutely, But years ago he sent you

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<v Speaker 1>a me moji which we used when we interviewed him

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty. Was that twenty twenty four of

0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>him doing an impression of a of Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Baker, who does Dan Baker, the PA at the Phillies

0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.760
<v Speaker 3>games and has for fifty years. Dan Baker has some

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<v Speaker 3>very recognizable boys. Boonie can do anybody, So play Aaron

0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Boone doing Dan Baker for the Phillies. Did Baseman, Mike Schmidt,

0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.960
<v Speaker 3>catcher ball Boone.

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<v Speaker 4>Right fielder Baker mecbride.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>This clip has made us laugh so many times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>As we know, Boonie can do like any accent, any dialect.

0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 3>He can imitate people so well, and he does voices

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<v Speaker 3>and everything else as well as anyone. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>love the bake McBride MacBride right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's his birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing you told me was we got to

0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.840
<v Speaker 1>play the clip from Boonie and then you had to

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<v Speaker 1>It took us a while to get it sent over

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<v Speaker 1>to me, but we figured it out eventually. And I

0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta say, his little memoji looks really good. I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>it up on the stream on the YouTube. So if

0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't follow us on YouTube, great game or what,

0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.159
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see Aaron Boone's memoji.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great, right, okay. Also on this date, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two, Freddy Linn was born. Freddy Lynn was the

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<v Speaker 3>rookie of the Year and the MVP in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five for the Red Sox. Just came out of USC

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.679
<v Speaker 3>and just took the world by storm, helped get the

0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.399
<v Speaker 3>Red Sox to the World Series that year. One of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite players that I ever covered now when I

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.560
<v Speaker 3>got to cover him every day. He was with the Orioles,

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.440
<v Speaker 3>and he still had those great hands and he could

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<v Speaker 3>still run the ball down in the outfield. But he

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<v Speaker 3>clearly was not the same player in the mid eighties

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<v Speaker 3>as he was in the mid seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's put it that way. But I'll never.

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<v Speaker 3>Forget this, Jeff, I you shouldn't share this, But he

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<v Speaker 3>yelled at me once in the press in the clubhouse,

0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.399
<v Speaker 3>he yelled at me over asking him about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being injured, and when when do you think we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be back?

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess I asked.

0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Him one too many times and he screamed at me

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<v Speaker 3>and said I'm tired of you asking me when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to get back. And it's not like I apologize,

0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.040
<v Speaker 3>but I looked at him and then he said, sorry, you.

0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:31.959
<v Speaker 4>Didn't deserve that. You didn't deserve that.

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<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't happen very often that a writer gets

0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.120
<v Speaker 3>yelled at by a player, and sometimes deservedly. So I'm

0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:44.199
<v Speaker 3>not saying I didn't deserve that, but he apologized to

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:49.199
<v Speaker 3>me for yelling at me in the clubhouse in at

0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Memorial Stadium, you know, forty years ago almost.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's that was Freddy Lynn for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have this right?

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<v Speaker 1>That he's only one of two players to win the

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<v Speaker 1>MVP and the Rookie of the Year in the same

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<v Speaker 1>season him and each year.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I believe that's true. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I just did a quick fact check because I thought

0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that was the case, and I did a quick fact

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<v Speaker 1>check and it came up clean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Echiro Suzuki and fred Land are the only two players

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.080
<v Speaker 1>both did it in the American League, mind you, to

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<v Speaker 1>win the MVP and the Rookie of the Year in

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<v Speaker 1>the same seaies so Freddy Lynn.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I because Freddy got hurt quite a bit

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.679
<v Speaker 3>and he was a little sensitive to that. But I

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 3>went to him once and I said, Freddie, you know

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<v Speaker 3>you at eighty percent is better than so and so

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.719
<v Speaker 3>we won't use the name here at one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And he looked at me and he's as humble as

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to get and he goes, yes, I know, but you

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.479
<v Speaker 3>don't understand, and please, He's very humble.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, you don't understand what it's like to be

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<v Speaker 4>like me.

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<v Speaker 3>That if I can't get to that ball on the

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<v Speaker 3>inside part of the plate because my wrist is killing me,

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 3>then it it's hard for me to play when I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do the things that I'm used to doing really

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<v Speaker 3>well because I have a slight hamstring pull. If I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get to that ball in left center field that

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.359
<v Speaker 3>I would normally get to with my eyes closed, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>I just I have a hard time playing when I

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 3>can't be as good as I can be. Do you

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 3>do you understand I understood that. Do you understand that?

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it, but I've never been good enough at

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<v Speaker 1>anything to feel that way.

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But listen, I mean.

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good editing a podcast or editing audio. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you told me there was something hindering me from

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.640
<v Speaker 1>being as fast as I possibly can, Like, remember when

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I needed to buy a brand new laptop in order

0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.159
<v Speaker 1>to do my job properly when going to Nashville for

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.400
<v Speaker 1>an award show Dad, that laptop was hindering me from

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>doing my work quickly and efficiently. And uh, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I guess as nerdy as that sounds. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I can relate to MVP and Rookie of the Year

0:20:58.840 --> 0:20:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Fred Lynn.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, well, very interesting. Okay.

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Also on this date, Jeff in nineteen sixty two. I

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 3>always got a kick out of this. Joe Klink was

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.440
<v Speaker 3>born k L I N K.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.679
<v Speaker 3>When I was growing up, Hogan's Heroes was one of

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 3>my favorite sitcoms, not my all time favorite sitcom.

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:19.879
<v Speaker 4>But one of my favorites.

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 3>And of course, Colonel Klink was the guy that ran

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 3>the Stalogs Dollarg thirteen. That was where, you know, where

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Hogan's Heroes all operated out of. And I still know

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.679
<v Speaker 3>most of the names of all the people in the show,

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 3>like Richard Dawson, who went on to host you Know,

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Family Feud. He played a guy named Newkirk, and I'd

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.919
<v Speaker 3>be interested to see how many people know what his

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<v Speaker 3>name is. First name is in the show because his

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 3>name is Peter Newkirk. I don't think too many people

0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 3>knew that because he goes by Newkirk only in the

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 3>show Carter. Another guy, Larry Hovis played him. His name

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 3>in the show was Andrew Carter.

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go.

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 3>These are little things that dopey me remembers from sixty

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.439
<v Speaker 3>years ago. Does me absolutely no good?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean we could change our names. Dad, I'll

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>be new Kirk. You can be old Kirkin.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good, Jeff? Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 3>Boy?

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<v Speaker 4>Pop up is old these days.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week I have been moving furniture, huge boxes of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and we won't get into that, and shoveling snow

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.440
<v Speaker 3>for the last week. I am absolutely exhausted, but none

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 3>of that matters.

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<v Speaker 4>We got it done. No worries.

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.919
<v Speaker 3>I'd last think, Jeff in this is sad. On this

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<v Speaker 3>date in twenty twenty five.

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:49.560
<v Speaker 4>Rich Dower died.

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I covered rich Dower with the Orioles. Rich Dower was

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 3>a great defensive second basement, had a tremendous understanding of

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the game, and he got very sick and died.

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<v Speaker 4>Way ahead of time.

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 3>But I always loved talking baseball with rich Dower. I

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed watching him play. And he was also a

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 3>great basketball player, Jeff. Back in the days when teams

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:20.440
<v Speaker 3>would have like a basketball team for the for the winter,

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, Jim Palmer would score thirty eight boys Cal

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Rippins dunk it on people. Rich Daut and Mike Flanniano.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you a million times about rich Dauer was

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 3>one of the best players on those teams. He could

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 3>really really shoot it. So rest in peace. A year

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 3>ago rich.

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Dower, all right, Dad, from Burley to Behemoth. We did

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.679
<v Speaker 1>one through fifty five, and see in last season. Now

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we're doing fifty six through ninety nine. We're on to

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>number sixty of the best players to wear each number.

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Who do you got?

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 3>And Jeff, I'm going to warrant everyone that once we

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 3>get to the red season, we may have to suspend

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 3>this and go with some more understandable people, because I'm

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 3>not sure I'm up for the greatest. You know, number

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 3>sixty seven of all time, So but at sixty we

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 3>still have a good picture, a very good pitcher. Dallas

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Kikel won one hundred and three games when the cy

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 3>young for the Astros in twenty fifteen and one of

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the best fielding pictures that I've ever seen. So for me,

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 3>the greatest number sixty of all time, Dallas Kikeel and

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Dallas Kikel leads to.

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<v Speaker 4>Our team, Tim, Do you know what that is?

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.479
<v Speaker 1>I have a very good feeling it has something to

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>do with his first name.

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Are we doing American cities?

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, American cities and everyone I'm using here, Jeff is

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 3>a top one hundred at least from Google on American

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 3>cities in population. So I didn't just pick tiny cities.

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 3>These are among every name on here is a top

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 3>one hundred name in baseball, I mean in population in

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 3>the United States. So our catcher, let's see if you

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 3>see how well you do with our catcher, Jeffy had

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good year last year.

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 4>It's sixty home runs.

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Cal Raley, there you go, okay, very good. Tyler Austin

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 3>at first base, Ray Durham at second base, Scottie Madison

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 3>at third base, Houston, Amenez at shortstop, Darryl Boston in

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 3>the outfield, Claudell.

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Washington's since Washington, d C. Still obviously is the city.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 3>And David Henderson Henderson, Nevada, right, you lived here there.

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I was surprised to hear there that many people. Henderson,

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Nevada is one of the one hundred biggest cities population

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 3>in the United States.

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Should I not be surprised by that? You should not.

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Be surprised because Las Vegas is like one giant city

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and Henderson is like its own city. Think about how

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>big Las Vegas the valley is.

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty large.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little surprised it made top one hundred. I

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>bet it's in the eighties or nineties, but it's in there.

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Right, really good. So Dallas Kikeel is one of our pictures.

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 3>And it was painful to leave Dallas Braden off of

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 3>this list. But Dallas Braden isn't the greatest number sixty

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 3>of all time.

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 4>We needed a jumping off point.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Orlando Hernandez, of course, John Garland, Reggie Cleveland, Brad Lincoln,

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 3>one of the newest pirate pitchers, Bubba Chandler, and Lee Richmond,

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 3>who I did not know this was one of his

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 3>distinctions is he's apparently pitched in the eighteen hundreds. Of course,

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 3>the first left handed pitcher in major league history.

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 4>I hope I have that right.

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 3>I read it on Saber, so he was like the

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 3>first guy who really was a very good pitcher and

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 3>being left handed. You also pitched the first perfect game

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 3>in major league history, Lee Richmond.

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right, well, hey, you learned something new every

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>day on a disagree.

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 3>Game, and I learned it from Saber, who we again.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 3>We talked to the guys at the you know, Las Vegas, Saber.

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Those guys were great. We had the best time with

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 3>them talking baseball on a cold Saturday afternoon, and marriage.

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>That was so beautiful for them. I'm sure of it.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, Dad, let's wrap up with three cards. In

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. This is where you go down to your

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>basement bathroom, which is currently quite a treacherous journey to

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>get to there. I'm sure, because there's a lot of

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff between you and the bathroom.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for bringing up such an unpleasant subject. Why

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't you give me a good and c and.

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Then that bathroom is decorated all in baseball. I'm shocked

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't been changed to a decorated in cross stitch

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 1>by now, but none of the you grab some cards

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>at random?

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Who are we looking at?

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>To right?

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 3>And Jeff, we're going to change this up once the

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 3>regular season begins. We're gonna have uh, We're gonna have

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>a new We're gonna have a new feature. It's gonna

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 3>be called Wheel of Kirkchin, not Wheel of Fortune. But

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna spin a wheel. And however, whoever ends up

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>on that wheel, that's who I'm gonna tell a story about.

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Does that makes sense?

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.479
<v Speaker 1>The Wheel of Kirkchin. I'm a big fan of that,

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>all right? Can I Can I make a wheel?

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm counting on you to make it, because you can

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>make You could build anything.

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 4>The only thing I could build is a pined with

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Derby car. So you know that.

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Wait, you said the only thing you can build is

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a pine with Derby car.

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>That it defied physics.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>It didn't even make it to it slowed down on

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>a downhill.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, there were one hundred You know how you remember, Jeff,

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 3>where you were when you get really bad news?

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Get this.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 3>I was at the a's spring training facility in the

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>parking lot in Phoenix. This is how many years ago?

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 3>This is twenty five years ago something like that. Yeah, said,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 3>we just got the results from the Pinewood Derby. I said,

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>how did he do? Because I built the Pinewood Derby car.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>She said he finished one hundred and forty second, I

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>said how many kids were in it? She said one

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty two. You finished last out of the

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 3>entire Dad.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>So bad, pack.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>That is why.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>That is why Uncle Matt, your amazing brother, the late

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Uncle Matt, then took over after that year.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 2>So because he had all.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 4>The toes and everything.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Next year, you like finished really well, right, we did

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>really well when Uncle Matt took over. Dad, You know

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>your strengths, Okay, like when you gave that great lesson

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>to my cub Scout troop on bird migration.

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, know your strengths. That's your speed, right boy?

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 3>That after that speech, you came up to me and said, Dad, God,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea you had.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Knew that much of a migration.

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And I said, Jeffrey, as of this morning, I didn't

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 3>know any of this stuff.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 4>But I looked it all up and I presented it properly.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Three cards in the bathroom Number one, oh an all

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 3>time favorite, Tim Stoddard. So, Tim Stoddard played for the

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina State national championship basketball team, and he pitched

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 3>for the Orioles, and I covered him when he pitched

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>for the Orioles. So he was like six seven to sixty.

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 3>And I was just telling you, Jeff that, you know,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 3>the basketball teams that.

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Were there were really good, Like I told you.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Jim Palmer, Rich Dower, Mike Flanagan, Cal Rippen, those guys

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>were really good. But when Tim Stoddard, who played at

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 3>NC State, showed up, it was like a man among boys,

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 3>because not only was he bigger than everyone else, but

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 3>he was a polished college basketball player on a championship

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 3>collegiate team, the NC State Wolfpack.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Tim Stoddard love It.

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Number two, a personal favorite. I can't believe I have

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 3>this card. This is Jack Lozorko. Now, if anyone remembers

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Jack Lozorko, tip of the cap. But Jack Lozorko was

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 3>very good friends with a buddy of mine, Doug Tornese,

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 3>now the late Doug Tornes. And in spring training of

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>eighty two, I'm covering the Rangers and I meet Jack

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Lozorko and Doug calls me to say, Hey, my boy,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Jake is going to be there. You gotta go say

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 3>hi to him. So I got to know Jack Lozorko

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty well. And he's one of the great He didn't

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 3>end up having a very long major league career, but

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 3>he's one of the greatest fielding pitchers I've ever seen,

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 3>even better than Dallas Kichel, who was great. And you

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>know why, Jeff, he was a hockey goalie in high

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 3>school and and you know, balls would come shooting up

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 3>the middle against him and he would, you know, kick it,

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 3>he would knock it down with his glove. He would

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 3>catch it because he was a hockey goalie. And then

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 3>he became a major league baseball pitcher.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Does that Does that add up to you? Well?

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I would think, I mean, obviously, I think he'd be

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a better catcher at that point, being able to block

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the plate and move like that.

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Then to become a pitcher.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Dad, I looked up Jack Lozorko on Baseball Reference. I

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is obscure, but you know, he

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was drafted five times.

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was a great high school player, and this happens, Jeff.

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Guys get drafted and they don't get drafted high enough,

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 3>or they want to go to college, so they go

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 3>to college. I did not know he had been drafted

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 3>five different times, but.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nineteen seventy five in the regular phase of the draft,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>seventy six twice in the regular phase, secondary phase, seventy

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>seven in the secondary phase, and then seventy.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Eight in the amateur draft.

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So I mean he went eighth round, first, first, second, eleventh. Oh,

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean kind of crazy when you really think about it.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Drafted five times.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>He finally said, all right, I'm coming, don't worry about it.

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 3>So good and speaking a good third one Will Clark

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 3>borderline Hall of Famer Will Clark. Will Clark's first major

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 3>league get bat he hit a home run off Nolan Ryan.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 4>How about that?

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 3>And he's one of the greatest hitters in the history

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>of college baseball, at absolute star at Mississippi State. And Jeff,

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 3>that swing that he had, it looked like somebody opening

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 3>up a cape because he had such a high swing

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.719
<v Speaker 3>and a high finish, it looked like someone opening a cape.

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>So when he would hit us a home run off

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 3>of somebody with more colorful leg whige, he would say,

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>I caped that guy. You know, because that's what he

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 3>used for. I got that guy hit a home run

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 3>off that guy. I took that guy deep. He would say,

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I caped that guy. He was he played with, of course,

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>for the Giants and the Orioles and the Rangers and

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of teams Cardinals.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 4>He was a really good hitter.

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>And I did a game at Candlestick Park where they're

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 3>playing the Cubs, Giants and Cubs in the playoffs, and

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 3>the Cubs brought Mitch Williams into pitch and Kevin Mitchell

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 3>walks to the on deck circle because Will Clark is

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 3>coming to the plate and he says to him, you

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>know what you have to do, meaning you got to

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 3>get a hit here, And will Clark just looks at

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Mitchell and says it's done, and he had a

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 3>line drive up the middle, and the Giants end up

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 3>winning that game. Nobody had more confidence as a hitter

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 3>than Will Clark. And I'm going to try to tell

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 3>this story, even though it's a powerful correctly. Okay, My

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 3>buddy Mike Toomey, one of the great scouts ever, one

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of the great baseball men ever, told me one that

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 3>he went to the movie theater with Will Clark.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 4>In like rural Virginia ones.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 3>And they walked in.

0:34:58.440 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 4>They walked in the movie theater.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 3>And as soon as Mike and Will Clark walked in,

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Will Clark walked in second.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 4>He got a standing ovation.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 3>And Mike Tooby says, look, Will, everybody knows who you are.

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 3>You walk into a movie theater and you got a

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 3>standing ovation. And one of the guys in the movie

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 3>theater said, I don't know who your buddy is, but

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 3>he's the tenth guy who's in the movie theater. And

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<v Speaker 3>we're not allowed to start the movie until ten people's

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<v Speaker 3>So he got a standing ovation, not because he was

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<v Speaker 3>Will Clark, but because he was the tenth guy. And

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<v Speaker 3>now we can start the movie. I don't know who

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<v Speaker 3>your buddy is, but we can start the movie now.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope that story is true.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's apocryphal, but either way, it's gonna be true.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great urban legend no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Will Clark, the tenth Man, the tenth man. There

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<v Speaker 2>we go, good right, all right, dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and next week we're going to be past the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, which is incredible, and we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at pictures and catchers reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>Within days of next week's episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>game or what dad? Are you gonna go take the

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<v Speaker 1>dog for a walk.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes I am.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still freezing cold outside, but I gotta do my

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<v Speaker 3>job and I just hope the snow goes away by

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<v Speaker 3>opening day. I'm telling you, Jeff, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be done by gone by March the first.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well listen before we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I only live forty five minutes from the Philadelphia Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>Citizens Bank Park. After I shovel my grass, maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask me to shovel their grass. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for listening, and as always, thanks for being a part

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<v Speaker 1>of our family.