1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Or La Latino Usa listener, como tuta was ailez baounchow 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: the Los archives from Futro Media and PRX It's Latino Usa. 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: I'm Maria Joosa Today. Ahila Guzman explains her experience co 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: designing the first Apple emojis, her inspirations, and her process. 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Instead of sending a text message to express how you feel, 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: you might instead decide to hit one of those cute 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: little icons on your phone, and depending on your mood, 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: you could choose from all kinds of emojis. A suspicious 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: smiley face with a monocle, a hand getting a manicure, 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: or a solo red boxing glove one of my favorites. 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: But did you know that the first set of emojis 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: for Apple products were drafted by a Colombian American woman. 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Ahila Guzman started as an Internet Apple in two thousand 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: and eight while she was still in college, and her 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: first project was to develop emojis from their original Japanese 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: versions into something new. Now, over ten years later, those 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: little images have become well, for lack of a better word, iconic. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: Here's Ahila telling her story. 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: When I moved from Bogotad to Miami, I did not 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: speak a word of English. I remember entering my classroom 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 2: full of kids and not being able to connect with anyone. 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: It was very frustrating. So what I ended up doing 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: was actually relying on my drawing skills that I developed 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: before moving and kind of communicating with my teachers and 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: my classmates through pictures. And I noticed immediately the power 26 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: that an image can have on someone even though you 27 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: don't speak the same language. I've always relied in that 28 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: feeling and that of trying to communicate with people in 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: a really natural and simple way, and so designed to 30 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: me was the perfect outlet and avenue to continue pursuing 31 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: that goal. And that's how I sort of ended up 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: basically doing my first project. At the time, the word 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: emoji was not super known. It's a Japanese term, and 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: so I actually didn't know what the word meant, and 35 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: I asked. Pretty soon someone kind of chuckled in the 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: background and said, oh, it's a bunch of icons illustrations 37 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: that express a feeling and emotion, and so I said, oh, okay, 38 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: so I'm going to be drawing a lot and how 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: many are there? And they said, oh, probably around close 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: to five hundred, and I said, Oh, okay, I guess 41 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: I really got to put my drawing cap on and 42 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: start this project. So when I first started, I wanted 43 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: to pick an emoji that I sort of felt comfortable 44 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: but also challenge at the same time. And that's why 45 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: I started with the engagement ring. Because in my undergraduate 46 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: class I studied industrial design and I kind of learned 47 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: how to render metals, but the piece that I thought 48 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: was really challenging was the diamond. And so my mentor, Raymond, 49 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: really helped me to understand the technical skills that went 50 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: behind them, as well as how to apply the apple 51 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: esthetic onto these icons these emojis. Back then, as an interron, 52 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: when I started to create an emoji, I was inspired 53 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: heavily by real life objects, and so I would find 54 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: myself going to the grocery store to look at apples 55 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: or strawberries and sort of borrowing details from that, also 56 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: looking at textures like leather for a football, et cetera. 57 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: And I think we Raymond and I definitely left our 58 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: little personality. For example, when he made the happy poop swirl, 59 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: and pretty soon he created the ice cream cone and 60 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: sort of swapped the swirl of the happy poop into 61 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: the cone removed, the eyes, changed the color, and that 62 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: was basically it, and so lots of giggles, lots of laughter. 63 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: The turquoise dress, I really was inspired by a real 64 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: dress that my sister had been creating for an event, 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: and I figured, oh, you know, this is kind of 66 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: an unusual color combo. It's kind of iconic in my head, 67 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to base it off of that silhouette and 68 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: that color pattern. And so just recently she found out 69 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: that was the keys, and she also had a blast 70 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: and can't stop texting it now. We were assigned obviously 71 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: a large batch of emoji, and as this was my 72 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: first time ever creating something like this, the beginning was 73 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: a little slow. I would make like one every two days, 74 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: and the first one took me about three days, but 75 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: very quickly I got faster and faster, and so I 76 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: ended up making three or four a day, and especially 77 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: the ones that were simple, like the set of hearts. 78 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Once you created the first one, it's easy to swap 79 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: the color, so then you create you know, five or 80 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: six really quick. This has been about ten years, but 81 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: if my memory serves me right, I created about one 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty through my internship, and several others once 83 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: I became a full time employee a year later. But 84 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: some of my favorites that I've created in that time 85 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: were like the party popper, that cone with the confetti, 86 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: the set of hearts, the engagement ring just because it 87 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: has a different memory to me because it was the 88 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: first one, the Christmas tree, the pumpkin, the stars. I 89 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: really did not imagine where they would end up and 90 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: how much they would sort of become part of our 91 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: everyday environment, not just the digital world, but also in 92 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: the physical world through toys and other merchandise and decorations 93 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: that you see. I think folks are drawn to emoji 94 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: for a variety of reasons, but in my opinion, I 95 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: think the biggest reason is that one, it's very fast, 96 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: ideally to find what you're looking for and send it 97 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: to somebody. But I think the most important reason is 98 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: it allows you to share sentiment to anyone, regardless of 99 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: the language they may speak. But yeah, I think mostly 100 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: for me, it's the universality where you can share them 101 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: with anybody around the globe and still be understood. I 102 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: think that's really powerful. When I was very young, when 103 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: I moved to Florida at the age of eight, and 104 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't be understood, and I drew and I was understood, 105 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: and I made a bunch of friends in the process. 106 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: I really think that the emoje you sort of capture 107 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: that sentiment. You can compose entire sentences in some ways 108 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: with visuals and people will understand and you can connect. 109 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: That was Angila Gusmann. This episode was produced by Seer Quevedo. 110 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: It was mixed by Stephanie Lebou. 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