WEBVTT - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Heath Miller on Steelers Mike McCarthy hire, retirement, hilarious training camp stories 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.160 Hey, man, is it anything that you you missed about 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.520 playing football? Because you know you left a year two 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.360 too early. But you know, we ain't go you know, 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:10.480 we ain't go fault you on that, you know, even 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:12.520 though we tried to get you to stay. DeAngelo and 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.959 myself personally, But you know, is it anything that you 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.680 miss that. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.360 I missed the locker room. I missed the locker room. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.840 I miss being around you know, like we talked about, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.040 you're around your teammates way more than your family, and 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.400 you know, you become close to everybody. We kind of 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.880 all go through at that age and stage in life. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.800 Everybody goes through, you know, kind of monumental moments in 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.839 your life, whether it be getting married, having kids, starting 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.720 a family, like all these things we go through together. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.440 And then, you know, kind of when you're retired, everybody 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.599 goes there's separate ways and you don't get to talk 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.400 to each other or see each other as often as 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.800 as you do. So I miss I miss going to 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.920 the weight room and seeing Deebo every morning, and you know, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.480 being in the locker room, playing whatever, just hanging out, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.240 just being around. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.479 That's what I missed the most. Yep, that's the same thing. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.199 I think that's the answer for most of the guys 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.960 because you don't get that, you get sixty seventy grown 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.800 men that are willing Koek will be there on time, 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.119 at the same place, working to the same goal, trying 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.800 to be the best they can be. And there's nowhere 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.360 else in the world that you can go find that. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.679 So that's that's the normal answer that we get. So 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.160 when you say that, I'm like this, Yes, it's the 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:26.720 locker room. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.240 It's a special place because it's and all those guys 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.760 have been through probably the same thing to get through 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:36.080 where they are shared experiences, same goals. We're all the 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.080 same people. Yeah, essentially at the end of the day 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.039 are the core of who we are is the same 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.640 for the most part, that's what builds the bonds. But yeah, 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:49.640 when I walked in the last day to meet the 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:53.320 coaches and retire, you know, to let them know the news. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.760 First person I see when I go through the door 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:02.400 of Debo Indi Angelo. He said, what are you doing here? 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:03.440 So what are you doing here? 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.400 They knew they knew Debo, you knew. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:10.760 I'm talking about? He returned, like, for what what what 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.840 are you talking about? Where are you going what he 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.520 was it what I came back to this, what is 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.080 you talking about you leaving? 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.880 Was it like a body Was it a body situation? 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.000 He if you think were you just kind of ready 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:24.720 ready to go? 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.359 It was a little bit of everything. I knew it 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.200 was time. Uh maybe it was a pride thing because 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.040 I knew I couldn't play the way I wanted to 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.560 or expected to be out of myself, you know. And 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.520 I knew I could still be productive, and I knew 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.880 I still had a role on the team, but I 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.600 felt like if I couldn't, I was putting in. As 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.040 you get older, you know, you put in more and 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.560 more work all the field to be your best on 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.480 the field. I felt like that that trade off wasn't 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.400 matching up anymore. You know. I was putting in more 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.520 and more work, and I wasn't, uh still as good 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.280 as I would had hoped to be or feel as 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.040 good as I hope to feel on Sundays. So I 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.079 knew I knew it was time. I don't have you know, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.840 first year out was probably tough, but uh some you know, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.440 some second thoughts, especially when the first game I think 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.040 the Steelers played on Monday night football versus the Redskins, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.760 I believe. So I'm excited. I'm like, I'm going to 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.399 watch the game. I turn it on In like five 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.040 or ten minutes into the game, I'm like, I can't 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.160 watch this. I can't watching. I didn't watch any more 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:25.280 games the rest of that year. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.560 I'm like, way too soon. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.079 Yeah, I'm like, I was supposed to be in the 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.240 huddle like this is. I'm looking at all my guys 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.360 in the huddle and I'm like, it looks like I 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.040 know what plays they're running everything. I got to take 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.480 a step back. So but it's all good now to 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:43.200 watch the games. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.520 You could you could, you could wash. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:45.000 The games down. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can watch the games now. You've 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.840 been watching. I've been when I can. Yeah. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.280 You know kids, that big giant ass tight End they 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.000 got bro mind Washington. They're boy like seven foot five 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:00.840 hundred pounds. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.560 I saw him a few years ago and we all 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.000 got a big before a game we went out, had 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.160 u I took I took a picture with all the 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.560 tight Ends, and then I see the picture after the 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.800 fact and he's like two feet taller. I should have 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.720 moved a little bit further away from this dude. He's 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:16.279 a giant. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.599 Oh, yes, he's humongous. Yeah, but they got it. He's 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.240 a he's a really good player. I mean, going back 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.000 to doing both, like you were talking about Debo, he's 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.320 he's a problem in the running game and he makes 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.960 he's he's athletic enough and he has good enough hands 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.440 to make plays in the passing game too. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.960 So I'm excited to see, you know, how his career 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.040 on folds. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.679 Yeah, definitely, definitely some something to watch for sure, for sure. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.560 Oh so, coming out of coming out of UVA, I 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.160 got to ask you because I was a I was 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.479 a first round pick also, but what would you say 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.600 of how did you manage your expectations coming in as 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.560 a first round or what was your thought process? 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.640 M hm, Well, I knew I was coming to a 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.000 really good team. They were fifteen won the year before 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:06.480 so fifty to one lost in the FC Championship. So 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.200 I was coming to a good team. I was just 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.640 trying to get in and fit in wherever I could 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.599 and just keep a low profile, learn the plays and 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.200 just kind of earn my way. And you know, that's 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.680 one thing I think too, that back in the day 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.920 it was you had to earn your way and where 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:27.880 you were d Yeah, I mean and Marvel Smith, who 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.640 was the left tackle at the time, and Max. Max 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.280 talked to me a little more. Max Starks, he's a 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.560 Florida guy. He was on the right side. So I 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.200 remember when I first got there, I'm lining up if 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.120 I get reps with the ones, I'm lining up beside 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.040 Marvel and I'm like trying to echo the calls in 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.359 the run game because I know what I'm doing, but 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.400 I want, you know, I'm needing a little confirmation. Yeah, 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.000 Marvel was in a stance, He's looking straight ahead. He 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.520 don't even acknowledge me next to him, and I'm like, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.760 I better get my play but because Marvel is not 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.880 going to help me out. But it was like the 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:00.720 it was the standard. It's like, if you're going to 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.120 be with us, you better know what to do, you know, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.760 and you better get your job done. So I knew. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.719 I stopped asking Marvel for the calls after that and 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.040 got my playbook a little more. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.000 So. For sure, I love it because I think some 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.520 especially just coming in hard hat you gotta when you're 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.880 coming in like the same thing. You want to prove 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.880 yourself to the guys, and the best way to do 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.360 that is know what you're doing. You know what I'm saying, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.799 Like they already know, they know the playbook the quicker. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.720 You learn that playbook, that's the quicker. You're gonna get 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.120 the respect from the guys when people start motioning you 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.640 not just looking around? What's the called? What's the play? No, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.359 you're in here with us, know what's going on, and 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.159 then that's going to I think that that gets you 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:38.719 right first. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.320 Yeah, it's like even with coaches, you know, guys think 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.760 you gotta be you got to make this amazing play here, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.360 this amazing play there. They just want to be able 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.080 to trust you. Yes, are you gonna know what to do? 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.560 Are you going to be where you're supposed to be 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.280 when you're supposed to be there? And same with quarterbacks 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.080 and teammates too. They're gonna put guys on the field 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.599 who they trust. Part of that trust is just no, yet, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:02.320 you gotta know what to do? 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.039 Ye you talked about about about your body, you know, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.920 combination of pride and body. What was your off season? 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.520 You know, training like to prepare for the season because 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.480 you know, for me, the hardest thing was like, yo, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.320 can I make it through another off season training for 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.960 the season, because getting into the season was the easy part. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.440 I would always take a few weeks off and then 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.280 you know, after being at home for a little bit, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.480 you start to get in my wife like it's fun 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.040 of the time for you to start working out, right, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.880 And I knew. I knew after that, like, okay, yeah, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.600 it's time for me to get back into it. But 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.600 you know, I stayed in Pittsburgh, Deebo and I trained 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.880 a couple like early on before you started going to Arizona. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.440 We trained a little bit in the summertime early in 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.360 my career, and I kind of stayed with those guys 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.480 and just push yourself in the off season. Then I 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.880 started adding the body work later in my career, so 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.560 you know that took more time. But yeah, I was lifting, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.040 running every day, body work usually in the afternoon, and 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.880 I add some skill stuff in there as well. So 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.679 you know, I always tried to be you know, again, 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.040 being in condition was one of the things was in 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.679 my control, just like learning the place. So I always 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.920 tried to always know exactly where I was supposed to be, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.960 exactly what I'm supposed to do, and also be in 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.240 the best shape possible to execute my job. And you know, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.800 it's funny with all the money that's on the line 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.320 in the NFL, every year there's guys that come in 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.600 and don't know the plays and is out of shape 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.680 and can't do the test. And it always blew my 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.040 mind when that happened. It's like, guys, what were you. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:43.040 Remember the one dude, he the one cat. I don't 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.120 know if he was there yet, but he had he 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.120 had He was a he was a receiver. He had 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.640 a bullet on his on his leg, a tattoo bullet 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.480 and it was it said speed kill. I remember him. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:54.160 I don't know. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.280 The forties like it was a race, yeah, and he 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.160 liked the past out at like eight. They ended up 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.160 I being him up and shocking him down a buzzer 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.440 that wasn't even his. Were you there for that? 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:08.959 Yes? 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:15.200 Yes, brouh listen, Joe, it was uh it was. It 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.240 was a receiver there and he correct me if I'm wrong, 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.760 But I believe he was Tennessee, right, I. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.200 Think so, Yeah, it was from Tennessee school. I think 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:24.880 it was Tennessee. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:25.280 Yeah. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.439 Yeah, he was a track dude. And his forty was 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.320 something crazy. What it was like like a forty two 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:34.720 something or something like that. Goofy so fast at that time. Bruh. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.040 We did a forty test and basically what they did 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.200 is they put like a half second on your forty time, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.679 your best forty time, uh half second on it, and 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.319 you had to run it at that time and then 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.320 you jogged back and you had as soon as you 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.200 ran it, you had what was it, thirty seconds thirty 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:51.640 five seconds? 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.400 See, yeah, you had a jog all the way back 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.640 to the line in the red recovery time to go again. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.800 It was quick, right, so everybody knows that. Hey, they're 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.280 trying to tell him, like, yo, just make it just 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.720 in time, just in time. Yeah, So bruh, don't blow 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.320 your whole right when I say this boy was stroking 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.640 out there when you're seeing back and we looking and 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.720 you know how you run and you get the book, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.199 so you gotta be like touching the line when it's 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.400 the beat. No, no, no, no, no, he touching the line 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:27.160 jogging back. Boob I said, ooh, you're doing like the 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:33.560 first two, three, four. He's still busting them right, jogging back. Man, 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:38.160 that boy got to about five, he started slowing down. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:38.680 A little bit. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:41.040 Sick. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.360 He starts stringing some more broh Ham strings. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.640 By seven, No, by seven, he was hitting the buzzer. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.199 What we had fourteen was it fourteen? 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:54.640 Fourteen fourteen? 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.640 Yeah, fourteen forties. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:02.480 Listen. He got to eight and he just made that one. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.040 But it was nine that took him out. There was 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:10.920 two groups running, so you got the buzzer and we're 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.480 so going for the two groups and they're they're separate. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.840 You can hear it. Man, that boy that got so tired, 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:23.120 he uh uh you hear this when he can't walk. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.840 He done got back. He didne heard the buzzer from 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.400 the other one. He is so out of it and gone. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.800 He takes off running, but he's doing diagonals this way 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.439 falls out. Yeah, he was blacked out. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:38.360 You gotta take you there. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:39.960 He was blacked out. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.040 See dude, No, sir, here's the thing too. It's it's 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.400 not like you showed up and and the test was 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.280 a surprise, surprise, no conditioning test. We don't know what 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.000 it is like. No, you knew what it was. The 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.520 whole time. You could be practiced to. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.679 Be running at the summer the whole time, making sure 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.439 these times. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.760 He's not realizing this ain't attract me. Bro, this this 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.480 is this is a conditioning test. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.640 Brus trying to impress that. They're trying to impress. That's 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:08.480 not going to impress them. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.920 Telling me just running, bro, When I say he he 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.880 had to be at least five yards back by time 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.400 the buzzer was hitting sometimes, wasn't he? 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.760 Yeah it was Yeah. I tell you another funny story. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.920 My rookie year. We showed up and I'm nervous to 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.160 run the test, and like, you know, you walk into 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.880 an NFL locker room and you're not you know, in 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.920 college there's guys two or three years younger than you, Right, 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.400 you're kind of the same age. Yes, you walk into 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:39.840 the NFL, there's there's some grown men right in the minivans. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.200 They got kids at home, Like this is the real deal. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.880 This is like, yes, this means this is their career. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.840 So I look over the linemen are running and uh, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.920 Chemo von all Hoffen was he was probably I don't 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.960 know what year, Devo you remember him? Yeah, I remember 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.400 Kimo was over there running the fourteen forties in bare feet. Yeah, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.880 he don't even have shoes on. I'm like, how you 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.640 got it? And this is like starting to stop. But 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.040 like you're planting like you're coming in with some force 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.400 to plant and drew back. He's over there running in 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.280 his bare feet. I'm like, oh, this guy's this this. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.600 Man, he's built differently. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.800 What did Ike say? Ike said, he's a man of 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:21.199 the earth. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.240 Yeah, he's getting grounded. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:26.240 Yeah get it. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:27.200 He was. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.840 He was under the whole grounding thing before it took off. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.640 So oh yeah, No, when you say that, it reminds 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.760 me of when I came into that locker room from 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.400 the to the Browns my rookie season and we had 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.000 big Baby Davis number ninety two. He was on the team. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.040 That was one of the biggest that was one of 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.200 the biggest humans I've ever seen, so much swag, so chilled, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.280 so nice. I was like, like, he could be my dad, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.080 but he's on my team. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.360 I was twenty one, just turned twenty one seven days ago, 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.400 and I got thirty four year old man on my 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.520 team with a twelve year old son. You know what 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.240 I'm saying around I'm like this, Oh my goodness, okay, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.360 hey you got kids made. I'm like, what's going on, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.040 mister Davis? You know what I'm saying, Joe Hayden here ready, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.160 whatever you need. So like really like when I walked 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.160 in there, I'm like this, these are grown men, and 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.400 I'm looking to take food off their plates. That's how 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.040 they're looking at me. The other corners. You know what 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.199 I'm saying. You talk about looking over not getting help 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.160 on the play, I'm like, Bolly, you better know exactly 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.400 what you're doing because you're trying to take my spot. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.920 So it's real, real, live. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.560 I ain't gonna lie. We ain't had that. I ain't 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.280 gonna lie. My ogs helped me out. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.160 My OG's helped me out too. But I'm just saying, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.520 when you're looking around, not everybody's looking at you like 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.520 trying to help you out. The OG's Eric Wright, Sheldon 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.600 Brown looking out for me perfectly. Those dudes, they're grown 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.800 their vets, they know what's up. Everybody else like this, 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:43.080 all right. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.560 Hey, hey, yeah, that's look. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.680 Hey, you're looking at you right now like I was 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:52.160 telling even what time it was, meetings at meetings at 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.960 forty seven. I'm like this, No, it's not. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:59.360 You check your iterary, yeah, sure, you're a itenerary. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.000 He question, what do you remember the hardest hit that 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.680 you've gotten when you were in the league. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.160 Oh, that's a good question. I might not remember it 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:15.360 because work so hard. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.640 Why to put you to I don't. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.920 I don't. There's no one that really stands out as 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:28.960 the hardest. I took my moment. I took my share. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.560 Welcome to the NFL. Moment. 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:35.840 That's a good one, I say, just the realization of 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.240 walking down the hallway and the Steelers facility for the 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.960 first time and seeing like the pictures on the wall, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.880 like I remember playing with your own Jerome Bettis like 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:50.360 on a Sega Genesis or something. College football Notre Dame 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.920 when I was a kid and walking to the cafeteria 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.760 and he's one of the first guys I see, whoa, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.800 he's my teammate. Like, I better be on my stuff, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.880 Like I'm blocking for the bus, I better know what 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.880 I'm doing. I'm not gonna let my guy hidden, you know, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.800 let my guy take him out. So I think, just 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.360 you know, coming coming from a small town like I 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.600 grew up in, you know, not a lot of people, well, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.200 no one did what I did as far as make 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.440 it to the NFL for my school. Ever, I was 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.920 the first person. Now we have two actually, but you know, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.840 and then realizing whoa this is? Like this is it? 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.880 Like you see the big names and you know they're 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.000 your teammates, and then you realize what good people they 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.440 are on top of it and why they've had the 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.200 success that they've had. That was probably as as opposed 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:43.880 to a moment on the field. It was probably that. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:50.200 Moment for me. Okay, hey, most memorable game because I 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.480 may remind you of something that somebody said, but most 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:54.400 memorable game. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:17:00.920 Heath for me, I'd say number one AFC Championship game 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.200 in two thousand, I guess before Super Bowl forty three, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.520 so that would be nine when we beat the Ravens 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.160 at home for the third time Troy had the interception. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.800 Oh yeah, okay yeah, followed by the. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.040 Followed by Super Bowl versus the Cardinals will be the next. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.640 But I'd say because we beat Baltimore for the third 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.680 time that year. Yeah, and it was at home. That 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.359 was that made it even sweeter. So that was probably 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:30.480 my most memorable game. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.800 Yeah. I think that was the year we popped the 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:39.320 Jets right beforehand, right mm hmm? Or was it after 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:39.800 the Jets? 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.720 No, we beat the Cardinals, No, we beat the Chargers. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.640 I think we had to buy. We beat the Chargers 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.439 at home, then we beat Baltimore at home, then we 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.480 beat the Cardinals, and then we beat the Jets, I 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.840 think before Packers. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:59.440 Right, that's right, yeah, Jets, that's right. Yeah. See that's 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.720 when I'm trying to tell you my CTV bad us. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.120 Yeah, if you need that's that was good memory right there. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.520 Yeah, I can remember some things. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.080 My memory. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.919 How garbage. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.800 You can use it to your benefit though sometimes to de. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.639 Bo, you know what I'm saying, what you gotta do 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:17.680 when you can do you know what I'm saying. What 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:22.040 I'm saying, what I'm saying. Look here he When did 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.280 the heath chance start? 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.840 Yes, it started my rookie year in the in the 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.800 It kind of grew over time. But the first preseason 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.800 game at home, I caught a pass and I heard 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.520 like this low like murmur through the stadium, and I 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.439 just thought at the time, like, dang, I guess they 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.119 didn't want like they didn't want me to. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:44.560 Get the ball. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.919 There ain't nobody else you know they were doing. I 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.800 was like, oh, they must have wanted somebody else. So 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.080 but then over time I think it just grew and 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.119 you know, started to become a thing as we had 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.440 more successes and I grew as a player. So but yeah, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.440 the first I remember at home, first game and it. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:11.680 Was kind of like, I'm like, yeah, what's going on here? Yeah? 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.280 Yeah, I was love at that point, I guess not. 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.639 But did they have any chance before that for the 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.480