Speaker 1: Hey, man, is it anything that you you missed about
Speaker 1: playing football? Because you know you left a year two
Speaker 1: too early. But you know, we ain't go you know,
Speaker 1: we ain't go fault you on that, you know, even
Speaker 1: though we tried to get you to stay. DeAngelo and
Speaker 1: myself personally, But you know, is it anything that you
Speaker 1: miss that.
Speaker 2: I missed the locker room. I missed the locker room.
Speaker 2: I miss being around you know, like we talked about,
Speaker 2: you're around your teammates way more than your family, and
Speaker 2: you know, you become close to everybody. We kind of
Speaker 2: all go through at that age and stage in life.
Speaker 2: Everybody goes through, you know, kind of monumental moments in
Speaker 2: your life, whether it be getting married, having kids, starting
Speaker 2: a family, like all these things we go through together.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, kind of when you're retired, everybody
Speaker 2: goes there's separate ways and you don't get to talk
Speaker 2: to each other or see each other as often as
Speaker 2: as you do. So I miss I miss going to
Speaker 2: the weight room and seeing Deebo every morning, and you know,
Speaker 2: being in the locker room, playing whatever, just hanging out,
Speaker 2: just being around.
Speaker 3: That's what I missed the most. Yep, that's the same thing.
Speaker 3: I think that's the answer for most of the guys
Speaker 3: because you don't get that, you get sixty seventy grown
Speaker 3: men that are willing Koek will be there on time,
Speaker 3: at the same place, working to the same goal, trying
Speaker 3: to be the best they can be. And there's nowhere
Speaker 3: else in the world that you can go find that.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the normal answer that we get. So
Speaker 3: when you say that, I'm like this, Yes, it's the
Speaker 3: locker room.
Speaker 2: It's a special place because it's and all those guys
Speaker 2: have been through probably the same thing to get through
Speaker 2: where they are shared experiences, same goals. We're all the
Speaker 2: same people. Yeah, essentially at the end of the day
Speaker 2: are the core of who we are is the same
Speaker 2: for the most part, that's what builds the bonds. But yeah,
Speaker 2: when I walked in the last day to meet the
Speaker 2: coaches and retire, you know, to let them know the news.
Speaker 2: First person I see when I go through the door
Speaker 2: of Debo Indi Angelo. He said, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2: So what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: They knew they knew Debo, you knew.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? He returned, like, for what what what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Where are you going what he
Speaker 1: was it what I came back to this, what is
Speaker 1: you talking about you leaving?
Speaker 3: Was it like a body Was it a body situation?
Speaker 3: He if you think were you just kind of ready
Speaker 3: ready to go?
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of everything. I knew it
Speaker 2: was time. Uh maybe it was a pride thing because
Speaker 2: I knew I couldn't play the way I wanted to
Speaker 2: or expected to be out of myself, you know. And
Speaker 2: I knew I could still be productive, and I knew
Speaker 2: I still had a role on the team, but I
Speaker 2: felt like if I couldn't, I was putting in. As
Speaker 2: you get older, you know, you put in more and
Speaker 2: more work all the field to be your best on
Speaker 2: the field. I felt like that that trade off wasn't
Speaker 2: matching up anymore. You know. I was putting in more
Speaker 2: and more work, and I wasn't, uh still as good
Speaker 2: as I would had hoped to be or feel as
Speaker 2: good as I hope to feel on Sundays. So I
Speaker 2: knew I knew it was time. I don't have you know,
Speaker 2: first year out was probably tough, but uh some you know,
Speaker 2: some second thoughts, especially when the first game I think
Speaker 2: the Steelers played on Monday night football versus the Redskins,
Speaker 2: I believe. So I'm excited. I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch the game. I turn it on In like five
Speaker 2: or ten minutes into the game, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 2: watch this. I can't watching. I didn't watch any more
Speaker 2: games the rest of that year.
Speaker 3: I'm like, way too soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I was supposed to be in the
Speaker 2: huddle like this is. I'm looking at all my guys
Speaker 2: in the huddle and I'm like, it looks like I
Speaker 2: know what plays they're running everything. I got to take
Speaker 2: a step back. So but it's all good now to
Speaker 2: watch the games.
Speaker 1: You could you could, you could wash.
Speaker 3: The games down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can watch the games now. You've
Speaker 2: been watching. I've been when I can. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know kids, that big giant ass tight End they
Speaker 1: got bro mind Washington. They're boy like seven foot five
Speaker 1: hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: I saw him a few years ago and we all
Speaker 2: got a big before a game we went out, had
Speaker 2: u I took I took a picture with all the
Speaker 2: tight Ends, and then I see the picture after the
Speaker 2: fact and he's like two feet taller. I should have
Speaker 2: moved a little bit further away from this dude. He's
Speaker 2: a giant.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, he's humongous. Yeah, but they got it. He's
Speaker 4: a he's a really good player. I mean, going back
Speaker 4: to doing both, like you were talking about Debo, he's
Speaker 4: he's a problem in the running game and he makes
Speaker 4: he's he's athletic enough and he has good enough hands
Speaker 4: to make plays in the passing game too.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see, you know, how his career
Speaker 2: on folds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely some something to watch for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh so, coming out of coming out of UVA, I
Speaker 3: got to ask you because I was a I was
Speaker 3: a first round pick also, but what would you say
Speaker 3: of how did you manage your expectations coming in as
Speaker 3: a first round or what was your thought process?
Speaker 2: M hm, Well, I knew I was coming to a
Speaker 2: really good team. They were fifteen won the year before
Speaker 2: so fifty to one lost in the FC Championship. So
Speaker 2: I was coming to a good team. I was just
Speaker 2: trying to get in and fit in wherever I could
Speaker 2: and just keep a low profile, learn the plays and
Speaker 2: just kind of earn my way. And you know, that's
Speaker 2: one thing I think too, that back in the day
Speaker 2: it was you had to earn your way and where
Speaker 2: you were d Yeah, I mean and Marvel Smith, who
Speaker 2: was the left tackle at the time, and Max. Max
Speaker 2: talked to me a little more. Max Starks, he's a
Speaker 2: Florida guy. He was on the right side. So I
Speaker 2: remember when I first got there, I'm lining up if
Speaker 2: I get reps with the ones, I'm lining up beside
Speaker 2: Marvel and I'm like trying to echo the calls in
Speaker 2: the run game because I know what I'm doing, but
Speaker 2: I want, you know, I'm needing a little confirmation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Marvel was in a stance, He's looking straight ahead. He
Speaker 2: don't even acknowledge me next to him, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I better get my play but because Marvel is not
Speaker 2: going to help me out. But it was like the
Speaker 2: it was the standard. It's like, if you're going to
Speaker 2: be with us, you better know what to do, you know,
Speaker 2: and you better get your job done. So I knew.
Speaker 2: I stopped asking Marvel for the calls after that and
Speaker 2: got my playbook a little more.
Speaker 3: So. For sure, I love it because I think some
Speaker 3: especially just coming in hard hat you gotta when you're
Speaker 3: coming in like the same thing. You want to prove
Speaker 3: yourself to the guys, and the best way to do
Speaker 3: that is know what you're doing. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like they already know, they know the playbook the quicker.
Speaker 3: You learn that playbook, that's the quicker. You're gonna get
Speaker 3: the respect from the guys when people start motioning you
Speaker 3: not just looking around? What's the called? What's the play? No,
Speaker 3: you're in here with us, know what's going on, and
Speaker 3: then that's going to I think that that gets you
Speaker 3: right first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like even with coaches, you know, guys think
Speaker 2: you gotta be you got to make this amazing play here,
Speaker 2: this amazing play there. They just want to be able
Speaker 2: to trust you. Yes, are you gonna know what to do?
Speaker 2: Are you going to be where you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: when you're supposed to be there? And same with quarterbacks
Speaker 2: and teammates too. They're gonna put guys on the field
Speaker 2: who they trust. Part of that trust is just no, yet,
Speaker 2: you gotta know what to do?
Speaker 1: Ye you talked about about about your body, you know,
Speaker 1: combination of pride and body. What was your off season?
Speaker 1: You know, training like to prepare for the season because
Speaker 1: you know, for me, the hardest thing was like, yo,
Speaker 1: can I make it through another off season training for
Speaker 1: the season, because getting into the season was the easy part.
Speaker 2: I would always take a few weeks off and then
Speaker 2: you know, after being at home for a little bit,
Speaker 2: you start to get in my wife like it's fun
Speaker 2: of the time for you to start working out, right,
Speaker 2: And I knew. I knew after that, like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's time for me to get back into it. But
Speaker 2: you know, I stayed in Pittsburgh, Deebo and I trained
Speaker 2: a couple like early on before you started going to Arizona.
Speaker 2: We trained a little bit in the summertime early in
Speaker 2: my career, and I kind of stayed with those guys
Speaker 2: and just push yourself in the off season. Then I
Speaker 2: started adding the body work later in my career, so
Speaker 2: you know that took more time. But yeah, I was lifting,
Speaker 2: running every day, body work usually in the afternoon, and
Speaker 2: I add some skill stuff in there as well. So
Speaker 2: you know, I always tried to be you know, again,
Speaker 2: being in condition was one of the things was in
Speaker 2: my control, just like learning the place. So I always
Speaker 2: tried to always know exactly where I was supposed to be,
Speaker 2: exactly what I'm supposed to do, and also be in
Speaker 2: the best shape possible to execute my job. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's funny with all the money that's on the line
Speaker 2: in the NFL, every year there's guys that come in
Speaker 2: and don't know the plays and is out of shape
Speaker 2: and can't do the test. And it always blew my
Speaker 2: mind when that happened. It's like, guys, what were you.
Speaker 1: Remember the one dude, he the one cat. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was there yet, but he had he
Speaker 1: had He was a he was a receiver. He had
Speaker 1: a bullet on his on his leg, a tattoo bullet
Speaker 1: and it was it said speed kill. I remember him.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The forties like it was a race, yeah, and he
Speaker 1: liked the past out at like eight. They ended up
Speaker 1: I being him up and shocking him down a buzzer
Speaker 1: that wasn't even his. Were you there for that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, brouh listen, Joe, it was uh it was. It
Speaker 1: was a receiver there and he correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: But I believe he was Tennessee, right, I.
Speaker 2: Think so, Yeah, it was from Tennessee school. I think
Speaker 2: it was Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a track dude. And his forty was
Speaker 1: something crazy. What it was like like a forty two
Speaker 1: something or something like that. Goofy so fast at that time. Bruh.
Speaker 1: We did a forty test and basically what they did
Speaker 1: is they put like a half second on your forty time,
Speaker 1: your best forty time, uh half second on it, and
Speaker 1: you had to run it at that time and then
Speaker 1: you jogged back and you had as soon as you
Speaker 1: ran it, you had what was it, thirty seconds thirty
Speaker 1: five seconds?
Speaker 2: See, yeah, you had a jog all the way back
Speaker 2: to the line in the red recovery time to go again.
Speaker 1: It was quick, right, so everybody knows that. Hey, they're
Speaker 1: trying to tell him, like, yo, just make it just
Speaker 1: in time, just in time. Yeah, So bruh, don't blow
Speaker 1: your whole right when I say this boy was stroking
Speaker 1: out there when you're seeing back and we looking and
Speaker 1: you know how you run and you get the book,
Speaker 1: so you gotta be like touching the line when it's
Speaker 1: the beat. No, no, no, no, no, he touching the line
Speaker 1: jogging back. Boob I said, ooh, you're doing like the
Speaker 1: first two, three, four. He's still busting them right, jogging back. Man,
Speaker 1: that boy got to about five, he started slowing down.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 2: Sick.
Speaker 3: He starts stringing some more broh Ham strings.
Speaker 1: By seven, No, by seven, he was hitting the buzzer.
Speaker 1: What we had fourteen was it fourteen?
Speaker 2: Fourteen fourteen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen forties.
Speaker 1: Listen. He got to eight and he just made that one.
Speaker 1: But it was nine that took him out. There was
Speaker 1: two groups running, so you got the buzzer and we're
Speaker 1: so going for the two groups and they're they're separate.
Speaker 1: You can hear it. Man, that boy that got so tired,
Speaker 1: he uh uh you hear this when he can't walk.
Speaker 1: He done got back. He didne heard the buzzer from
Speaker 1: the other one. He is so out of it and gone.
Speaker 3: He takes off running, but he's doing diagonals this way
Speaker 3: falls out. Yeah, he was blacked out.
Speaker 1: You gotta take you there.
Speaker 3: He was blacked out.
Speaker 2: See dude, No, sir, here's the thing too. It's it's
Speaker 2: not like you showed up and and the test was
Speaker 2: a surprise, surprise, no conditioning test. We don't know what
Speaker 2: it is like. No, you knew what it was. The
Speaker 2: whole time. You could be practiced to.
Speaker 3: Be running at the summer the whole time, making sure
Speaker 3: these times.
Speaker 1: He's not realizing this ain't attract me. Bro, this this
Speaker 1: is this is a conditioning test.
Speaker 3: Brus trying to impress that. They're trying to impress. That's
Speaker 3: not going to impress them.
Speaker 1: Telling me just running, bro, When I say he he
Speaker 1: had to be at least five yards back by time
Speaker 1: the buzzer was hitting sometimes, wasn't he?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was Yeah. I tell you another funny story.
Speaker 2: My rookie year. We showed up and I'm nervous to
Speaker 2: run the test, and like, you know, you walk into
Speaker 2: an NFL locker room and you're not you know, in
Speaker 2: college there's guys two or three years younger than you, Right,
Speaker 2: you're kind of the same age. Yes, you walk into
Speaker 2: the NFL, there's there's some grown men right in the minivans.
Speaker 2: They got kids at home, Like this is the real deal.
Speaker 2: This is like, yes, this means this is their career.
Speaker 2: So I look over the linemen are running and uh,
Speaker 2: Chemo von all Hoffen was he was probably I don't
Speaker 2: know what year, Devo you remember him? Yeah, I remember
Speaker 2: Kimo was over there running the fourteen forties in bare feet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he don't even have shoes on. I'm like, how you
Speaker 2: got it? And this is like starting to stop. But
Speaker 2: like you're planting like you're coming in with some force
Speaker 2: to plant and drew back. He's over there running in
Speaker 2: his bare feet. I'm like, oh, this guy's this this.
Speaker 3: Man, he's built differently.
Speaker 2: What did Ike say? Ike said, he's a man of
Speaker 2: the earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting grounded.
Speaker 2: Yeah get it.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: He was under the whole grounding thing before it took off.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, No, when you say that, it reminds
Speaker 3: me of when I came into that locker room from
Speaker 3: the to the Browns my rookie season and we had
Speaker 3: big Baby Davis number ninety two. He was on the team.
Speaker 3: That was one of the biggest that was one of
Speaker 3: the biggest humans I've ever seen, so much swag, so chilled,
Speaker 3: so nice. I was like, like, he could be my dad,
Speaker 3: but he's on my team. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was twenty one, just turned twenty one seven days ago,
Speaker 3: and I got thirty four year old man on my
Speaker 3: team with a twelve year old son. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying around I'm like this, Oh my goodness, okay,
Speaker 3: hey you got kids made. I'm like, what's going on,
Speaker 3: mister Davis? You know what I'm saying, Joe Hayden here ready,
Speaker 3: whatever you need. So like really like when I walked
Speaker 3: in there, I'm like this, these are grown men, and
Speaker 3: I'm looking to take food off their plates. That's how
Speaker 3: they're looking at me. The other corners. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You talk about looking over not getting help
Speaker 3: on the play, I'm like, Bolly, you better know exactly
Speaker 3: what you're doing because you're trying to take my spot.
Speaker 3: So it's real, real, live.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. We ain't had that. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. My ogs helped me out.
Speaker 3: My OG's helped me out too. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: when you're looking around, not everybody's looking at you like
Speaker 3: trying to help you out. The OG's Eric Wright, Sheldon
Speaker 3: Brown looking out for me perfectly. Those dudes, they're grown
Speaker 3: their vets, they know what's up. Everybody else like this,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, yeah, that's look.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're looking at you right now like I was
Speaker 3: telling even what time it was, meetings at meetings at
Speaker 3: forty seven. I'm like this, No, it's not.
Speaker 2: You check your iterary, yeah, sure, you're a itenerary.
Speaker 3: He question, what do you remember the hardest hit that
Speaker 3: you've gotten when you were in the league.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. I might not remember it
Speaker 2: because work so hard.
Speaker 3: Why to put you to I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. There's no one that really stands out as
Speaker 2: the hardest. I took my moment. I took my share.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the NFL. Moment.
Speaker 2: That's a good one, I say, just the realization of
Speaker 2: walking down the hallway and the Steelers facility for the
Speaker 2: first time and seeing like the pictures on the wall,
Speaker 2: like I remember playing with your own Jerome Bettis like
Speaker 2: on a Sega Genesis or something. College football Notre Dame
Speaker 2: when I was a kid and walking to the cafeteria
Speaker 2: and he's one of the first guys I see, whoa,
Speaker 2: he's my teammate. Like, I better be on my stuff,
Speaker 2: Like I'm blocking for the bus, I better know what
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm not gonna let my guy hidden, you know,
Speaker 2: let my guy take him out. So I think, just
Speaker 2: you know, coming coming from a small town like I
Speaker 2: grew up in, you know, not a lot of people, well,
Speaker 2: no one did what I did as far as make
Speaker 2: it to the NFL for my school. Ever, I was
Speaker 2: the first person. Now we have two actually, but you know,
Speaker 2: and then realizing whoa this is? Like this is it?
Speaker 2: Like you see the big names and you know they're
Speaker 2: your teammates, and then you realize what good people they
Speaker 2: are on top of it and why they've had the
Speaker 2: success that they've had. That was probably as as opposed
Speaker 2: to a moment on the field. It was probably that.
Speaker 1: Moment for me. Okay, hey, most memorable game because I
Speaker 1: may remind you of something that somebody said, but most
Speaker 1: memorable game.
Speaker 2: Heath for me, I'd say number one AFC Championship game
Speaker 2: in two thousand, I guess before Super Bowl forty three,
Speaker 2: so that would be nine when we beat the Ravens
Speaker 2: at home for the third time Troy had the interception.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay yeah, followed by the.
Speaker 2: Followed by Super Bowl versus the Cardinals will be the next.
Speaker 2: But I'd say because we beat Baltimore for the third
Speaker 2: time that year. Yeah, and it was at home. That
Speaker 2: was that made it even sweeter. So that was probably
Speaker 2: my most memorable game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that was the year we popped the
Speaker 1: Jets right beforehand, right mm hmm? Or was it after
Speaker 1: the Jets?
Speaker 2: No, we beat the Cardinals, No, we beat the Chargers.
Speaker 2: I think we had to buy. We beat the Chargers
Speaker 2: at home, then we beat Baltimore at home, then we
Speaker 2: beat the Cardinals, and then we beat the Jets, I
Speaker 2: think before Packers.
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, yeah, Jets, that's right. Yeah. See that's
Speaker 1: when I'm trying to tell you my CTV bad us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you need that's that was good memory right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can remember some things.
Speaker 1: My memory.
Speaker 3: How garbage.
Speaker 2: You can use it to your benefit though sometimes to de.
Speaker 1: Bo, you know what I'm saying, what you gotta do
Speaker 1: when you can do you know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what I'm saying. Look here he When did
Speaker 1: the heath chance start?
Speaker 2: Yes, it started my rookie year in the in the
Speaker 2: It kind of grew over time. But the first preseason
Speaker 2: game at home, I caught a pass and I heard
Speaker 2: like this low like murmur through the stadium, and I
Speaker 2: just thought at the time, like, dang, I guess they
Speaker 2: didn't want like they didn't want me to.
Speaker 1: Get the ball.
Speaker 2: There ain't nobody else you know they were doing. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, they must have wanted somebody else. So
Speaker 2: but then over time I think it just grew and
Speaker 2: you know, started to become a thing as we had
Speaker 2: more successes and I grew as a player. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: the first I remember at home, first game and it.
Speaker 3: Was kind of like, I'm like, yeah, what's going on here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was love at that point, I guess not.
Speaker 1: But did they have any chance before that for the
Speaker 1: tight ends? No, not that I know.
Speaker 2: There was a full back Food? Uh uh, he might
Speaker 2: have been even before you.
Speaker 1: I played with Food.
Speaker 2: I played with christ do something when he ran the
Speaker 2: bar or not.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, i't lie.
Speaker 2: I feel like someone said they might have did something
Speaker 2: when he had just to like Food.
Speaker 1: But I'm not for sure possible, we might be.
Speaker 2: We need a Steelers historian for that.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying now, it's like every tight end, it's
Speaker 1: like yo he getting he getting the heat? How you
Speaker 1: how you feel about that you started something and passed
Speaker 1: it on down, or like hey you just yo he,
Speaker 1: y'all do nothing for nobody else. That's mine.
Speaker 2: No, I'm fine with it. I figure I didn't know
Speaker 2: if it was just if another white guy caught the ball.
Speaker 1: The first time, I was like, damn, they're still yellow heat,
Speaker 1: yellow heat for move for five you know he worked.
Speaker 1: They were they work. I'm like, damn, they don't realize
Speaker 1: he done left us. He left us out here to
Speaker 1: hang dry out. You know what I'm saying. He didn't care.
Speaker 1: You know, he just left, took his ball and went
Speaker 1: on home.
Speaker 3: I respect I respect that he. If you're gonna give
Speaker 3: it to anybody that's balling and that's worthy, like mood,
Speaker 3: they're giving it to fire. Move right now. Move he
Speaker 3: getting a little moved. It's not it's not hitting. It's
Speaker 3: not hitting like the heath, but it's still it's a
Speaker 3: little something in there. Go tight in love.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. Yeah, you show the tight ends love.
Speaker 2: I'm good with that.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I'm with it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, don't nobody cared about no tight ends?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: What what what advice would you give to these young
Speaker 1: tight ends out here? He that got to do with
Speaker 1: you did do both? Because a lot of these cats
Speaker 1: don't not do both.
Speaker 5: I would say longevity, embrace it, yeah, because I think
Speaker 5: a lot of guys just want to pinhole them pigeon
Speaker 5: themselves as like I'm a just a pass catcher and
Speaker 5: I'm just or I'm just a blocker or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I think a tight end that can do both
Speaker 2: has huge value to your offense, to your team because
Speaker 2: now you're not predictable. You know, if you're if you're
Speaker 2: just a pass catching tight end, you're in the huddle, Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm sure as a secondary guy, then you know what
Speaker 2: to expect. But if you're a guy who can do both,
Speaker 2: they always pose a threat. And you know, blocking is
Speaker 2: it's a difficult thing, but it's not as hard as
Speaker 2: it may seem. You know, if you if you fully
Speaker 2: embrace yourself into it, you can become a good blocker
Speaker 2: and just learn the technique and give some effort. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of guys I see, they don't even give effort.
Speaker 2: They're not even trying to block. Come on, you gotta
Speaker 2: if you give some effort, not that hard, get your
Speaker 2: hands inside and run your feet, you know.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like they don't forgot it.
Speaker 2: Man. It's what you gotta do is just hold get
Speaker 2: your hands inside and hold.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's what that's what it is. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: would getting held my hands inside on here only. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: they're gonna there's nothing you could do. They can hold you.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to act like they're not acting. Get your
Speaker 3: hands aside. That's still holding. But that's not holding.
Speaker 1: That ain't holding. They ain't holding. But I'm like, they
Speaker 1: go grab onto that breastplate man for a ride.
Speaker 3: You can't go anywhere. That's you're trying to break the
Speaker 3: arms off. But they got you too tight. Nothings them
Speaker 3: hands up like that, you might go flying, Joe literally, No,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. Now I'm up in the air.
Speaker 3: Now I'm exposed. Now he's trying to throw me on
Speaker 3: the on my back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey he you've been paying attention to our stillers
Speaker 1: and the coaching hires with the with the moves by
Speaker 1: the GM Yeah yeah, hey, hey what you what you think?
Speaker 1: What you think? What's you First off, what did you
Speaker 1: think of Omar and his moves with the with the
Speaker 1: with the guys that he done acquired? Man?
Speaker 2: I love Omar, you know, I think the same as
Speaker 2: Omar as you do Debo. And he was there the
Speaker 2: whole time I was there and always treated me well.
Speaker 2: He and I have a great relationship, as he does
Speaker 2: with I think most players have the same opinion of him.
Speaker 2: So I was real excited for him that he got
Speaker 2: the opportunity, and uh I'm excited to kind of see
Speaker 2: what he's what he's gonna do moving forward, kind of
Speaker 2: probably getting a little more ownership of the team now.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think, uh, yeah, I'm excited to see
Speaker 2: what transpires. Where are you thinking to McCarthy high, I
Speaker 2: was I'm not gonna lie with surprised at the beginning,
Speaker 2: just because of the history of the Steelers. I just
Speaker 2: expected and the and if you and if you're around Steelers,
Speaker 2: which you guys both are like, it's big on tradition,
Speaker 2: like the Steelers do things the Steelers way. So I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, then they're going to hire a young
Speaker 2: guy who I've probably never heard of. You have a
Speaker 2: defensive background. He'll be a good coach because they usually
Speaker 2: you know, they don't really miss and uh so to hire.
Speaker 2: When they hired McCarthy, I was like, oh, different, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: But then then the more you wrap your mind around it,
Speaker 2: and I think I forget who I heard say. Something's
Speaker 2: like they talked about his history of developing quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: you know the success he's had at quarterbacks going back
Speaker 2: to Green Bay, and you know in the state of
Speaker 2: that the Steelers are in now they're looking for the
Speaker 2: future quarterback. Like everything made perfect sense to me. And
Speaker 2: and he knows the history of the Steelers. He grew
Speaker 2: up in city of Pittsburgh. He loves bleeds black and gold.
Speaker 2: No matter where you go, if you grew up in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: you're always going to bleed black and gold. So I'm
Speaker 2: excited about it. I think it was a good higre.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's where we're at with it now. You know,
Speaker 1: I was out. I was a little off on the
Speaker 1: other of the side for a minute, but I came
Speaker 1: to yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was out of the yeah
Speaker 2: with the Steelers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was where do you think I live? What
Speaker 3: you think we should do a quarterback? Do you think
Speaker 3: do you think that we got Will Howard? Do you
Speaker 3: think we should use a draft pick to get a quarterback?
Speaker 3: Or do you think we should wait on a rock? Well,
Speaker 3: obviously I think we're waiting on a rod too.
Speaker 2: But what do you think they're waiting on him?
Speaker 1: But it sounds doing your jim put your gym hat on.
Speaker 2: He I haven't heard anybody say anything bad about the
Speaker 2: young guy Will Howard, but seeing obviously seeing it in
Speaker 2: practicing snippets and seeing it in the game. It's two
Speaker 2: different things. So totally, I think if if you really
Speaker 2: love him and you think you really see a future
Speaker 2: with him, then let's see what he can do. And
Speaker 2: that's obviously you know who knows what Aron will do.
Speaker 2: Ad is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think if you draft the guy, I don't
Speaker 2: think you have to reach for a quarterback if you
Speaker 2: like Will Howard, I don't think there's any point in Richie.
Speaker 2: But maybe if a Rod doesn't come back and Will
Speaker 2: plays this year, then you'll have a better idea of
Speaker 2: what you got in him going into next year's draft.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the guy and you can surround him with
Speaker 2: better players. But and looking back to Ben's situation, they
Speaker 2: had a great team and they had it been in
Speaker 2: the fold. So I think keep building our team and
Speaker 2: putting the pieces around and if Will's the young quarterback
Speaker 2: who takes over, great if they got to draft the guy,
Speaker 2: then he can come into a team that has solid
Speaker 2: pieces around him to where he can he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be the man the men in the huddle. He
Speaker 2: can grow into that kind of like Ben did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we're all saying the same
Speaker 3: as you. At the end of the day. We know
Speaker 3: the quarterback position is such an important position, but if
Speaker 3: you have a team around that guy, you're not acting
Speaker 3: him to be too much. But just do your job,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. When you have a great,
Speaker 3: great running game, you say, like when Ben came in
Speaker 3: and you had that team around him, you're not asking, man,
Speaker 3: you he throws eighteen times fifteen times a game you
Speaker 3: win by twenty one points, Like, will you could do that?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you have a lot
Speaker 3: of players around him where he's handing the rock off,
Speaker 3: you're not. You're throwing it fifteen times and you're winning
Speaker 3: by twenty one. Like that's a great situation to be in,
Speaker 3: and then you can start getting hold of the offense,
Speaker 3: starting to open it up a little bit more, you know.
Speaker 3: But defense, we have great players on defense. So I
Speaker 3: love the way you're saying it. Team gotta play. So
Speaker 3: everybody always panics about the quarterback, and that's why I
Speaker 3: ask you about the quarterback position. But it's no panic
Speaker 3: if you got a team around you. If everybody's balling
Speaker 3: and you need one, you need to go draft the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Then we need a quarterback, but you always need to
Speaker 3: make sure you're offensive line. Can we run the ball?
Speaker 3: Can he just hand it off? So now he's in
Speaker 3: a more comfortable position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that one per one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's before we jump into these super chests. Man,
Speaker 1: you got anything going on? Man? What you got? What
Speaker 1: you go? What's what's what's what's prominent with you? Right now?
Speaker 1: You got anything?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, years ago kind of I took over. I
Speaker 2: started coaching high school football. It's been Uh, that's been
Speaker 2: kind of fun and exciting. I probably never would have
Speaker 2: did it. I didn't have aspirations to do it. But
Speaker 2: my oldest was going into high school. They needed a coach.
Speaker 1: Uh, kids that had you doing something you doing?
Speaker 2: So now I'm I'm ten toes in. I'm all the
Speaker 2: way in trying to head coach. What's up the head coach?
Speaker 2: I'm the head coach?
Speaker 1: Yeah, come ahead, aware what the school is?
Speaker 3: Give me the school that ten toes in.
Speaker 2: Sant Anne's Bellfield School is the name of the school
Speaker 2: in Virginia. In Virginia, it's it's a what it's a
Speaker 2: private school?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a private school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some play.
Speaker 2: Uh so I'll have two on the team next year.
Speaker 2: My oldest played safety and receiver, and the next one
Speaker 2: will play some receiver probably like it's not linebacker, right, you.
Speaker 1: Know who to call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just sitting with Debo for this summer.
Speaker 1: Send him on down here, as man I got I'm
Speaker 1: going send him back.
Speaker 3: Man, five star, already got it.
Speaker 2: He's on the way to you.
Speaker 1: One five star year one? Is this your You ain't
Speaker 1: playing no daddy ball like Joe.
Speaker 3: Is, see Debo, Man, no favoritism here. The best players
Speaker 3: will play. That has to happen.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's why it was like a team. I had
Speaker 2: to surround myself with the best coaches that I could.
Speaker 2: I got and there's a lot of UVA alumni guys
Speaker 2: in the area. So I'm like, hey, oh, you guys
Speaker 2: coach football. They're like, yeah, we'll help. So I got
Speaker 2: two or three guys that played the UVA on staff.
Speaker 3: So that's the way you do it.
Speaker 2: The thing is setting the calendar in the schedule and
Speaker 2: those guys, those guys coach, and yeah, I could just
Speaker 2: manage that way. They can they coach my kids. They
Speaker 2: decide who plays they could be on them and I
Speaker 2: don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: So okay, we.
Speaker 2: Got we got a good situation. We're building something cool.
Speaker 1: Something special. Baby, Yeah, it was something special.
Speaker 3: That's good stuff.
Speaker 2: This your first year, so uh no, we have just
Speaker 2: completed my second season, so okay, my second We we
Speaker 2: made it to the state championship last year and lost.
Speaker 2: So we're trying to build, trying to build up to
Speaker 2: the sea this year and see how we do too well.
Speaker 2: There's two two divisions in private school in Virginia. We
Speaker 2: were in the lowest now then next year we're going
Speaker 2: to be in the highest. They're moving us up.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because y'all moving y'all as they putting belt
Speaker 3: now pulling that built out.
Speaker 1: What's y'all numbers? How many excudents y'all got? Y'all can't
Speaker 1: be moving us up when our numbers ain't hih, y'all
Speaker 1: numbers high.
Speaker 2: We're numbers we got. We got around two hundred boys,
Speaker 2: and they moved the number down a little bit, and
Speaker 2: now we're moving.
Speaker 1: We'll be the sports ain't on that football team.
Speaker 2: So small school will be the small school.
Speaker 1: Smaller school than crazy.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's Okay, crazy.
Speaker 1: We can we recruit.
Speaker 3: That's it's a private school, so we can recruit.
Speaker 2: You can we So we have we have boarding beds
Speaker 2: so we can. We got some international players on our team,
Speaker 2: so we get some Europeans. We got some Canadian guys.
Speaker 2: They come down and they board right on campus.
Speaker 1: So okay, here, I got a couple. I got a
Speaker 1: couple of you know what I'm saying, got a couple of.
Speaker 2: Business. But you gotta come, coach, you gotta come help coach.
Speaker 1: Well, you just messed that up.
Speaker 2: You're not too far away. I know you guys.
Speaker 3: We're in Virginia. So you send me the address. You
Speaker 3: send me the address. All right, I definitely want coach.
Speaker 2: Were going to be the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, hey, listen, bo that's how we get
Speaker 3: our feet wet. And then to Pittsburgh and next thing.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm telling you, Heath, you give me head
Speaker 3: coach vibes a thousand percent. I promise you. So if
Speaker 3: you keep this thing going, you'll be the head coach
Speaker 3: for the Stiller is next, and then de Boz decordinator,
Speaker 3: and then I'll go cornerbacks coach.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you might want to be the position coach.
Speaker 3: You might want to be posicians. Okay, we can all go.
Speaker 3: We can all go in theresion coaches, get off the
Speaker 3: wet together, and then we figure out.
Speaker 1: What we want. Y'all tripping. Hold up, hold up, hold up,
Speaker 1: I ain't on that bullshit, y'all tripping. I told you
Speaker 1: I ain't going with the head. I got to be
Speaker 1: at least DC. I can't. Hell no, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You can be defensive coordinator. You d C, you d C. Okay, Heath,
Speaker 3: you can come in as whatever you want. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to tell you. I think you you can get the
Speaker 3: head coaching job. But if you want to be the
Speaker 3: tight ans coach instantly tight ens coach, I'm telling you
Speaker 3: we could get that done now.
Speaker 2: Okay, playing about five over here.
Speaker 3: Five more years, you're gonna win a couple of ship,
Speaker 3: win a couple of high school ships. Yeah, then we
Speaker 3: could do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you win a chip. Nope, I ain't about
Speaker 1: to say nothing stupid, because then I gotta do it.
Speaker 1: Never mind, h go ahead, we're gonna get over here
Speaker 1: that we're gonna do what we're gonna do. D BO,
Speaker 1: I ain't saying nothing. I would about to say something goofy,
Speaker 1: like I was gonna come down there.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Oh no. No.
Speaker 2: This year before a game, I called keysel up. I
Speaker 2: always have a guest speaker, So before home games anyways,
Speaker 2: a guest speaker. So Keesel zoomed into the team and
Speaker 2: got the guys fired up before the game. So he's
Speaker 2: he's want to know for the pregame speech, so he zoomed.
Speaker 3: You know you could do that, he go zoom.
Speaker 1: He didn't even show up.
Speaker 2: We had him on the big screen. We had him
Speaker 2: on the big screen, you know, and he was like
Speaker 2: stroking his beer, but he had a Super Bowl rings
Speaker 2: stroking his beer with his rings on, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had the room rocking though.
Speaker 2: You know, he's like, what's up, guys?
Speaker 3: You know, I love it. That's how you get to
Speaker 3: motivate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got coming to life. Back on the super
Speaker 1: Chat Joe twin hours. She said he practicing against practicing
Speaker 1: against guys like James Harrison, Troy Polamalu. Every day had
Speaker 1: to be intense. Is there a specific practice story where
Speaker 1: one of those defensive legends made you realize you had
Speaker 1: to level your game up?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think probably well. When I in my rookie year,
Speaker 2: James and I went against each other a lot early on,
Speaker 2: whether it be one on ones when we get team reps.
Speaker 2: It seemed like I was always going against James, and
Speaker 2: James never talked to me like you know, he was
Speaker 2: had the scale on and like, I kid you not, Joe.
Speaker 2: After every practice, I'm going and I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: the cold tub, get my body right. Every time I
Speaker 2: turned the corner for the cold of Debo's in there.
Speaker 2: It's just me and Debo. He's not saying the word
Speaker 2: me and Debo, And you know he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, son of a gun. He's in here again.
Speaker 2: I can't get away from this.
Speaker 3: Guy getting his body right. Looking looking back, he's getting.
Speaker 2: His body right. I'm trying to get my body right.
Speaker 2: We see each other at practice. He's grunting at me.
Speaker 2: He's already intimidating. You know, he's just scowling at me,
Speaker 2: like rookie coming out. It's just my natural look. I'm
Speaker 2: just looking oh my, now, I know, it's just his
Speaker 2: natural look. Sometimes scowls a little more to like play
Speaker 2: up on it a little bit.
Speaker 3: He does that on purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you see now now I know that it took,
Speaker 2: but that took a couple of years to figure it out,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes it's for real and the ship just
Speaker 1: come out for sure. Yes, I find I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, you know, right,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh no, he ain't playing Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then but then after, you know, after a while,
Speaker 2: it was we take we take care of each other
Speaker 2: during practice.
Speaker 3: No question, you know, make no question.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm thankful for.
Speaker 1: I ain't making no deals in training camp.
Speaker 3: Training camp, y'all, y'all are making acts on backers.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I am making no deals in training camp.
Speaker 1: But Liam nine zero eight seven ten dollars? He how
Speaker 1: far do you drive the golf ball? See who hit
Speaker 1: to further? You? Big ben? Ps? We haven't played around
Speaker 1: with Joe yet? Is it because he's what? Is it?
Speaker 1: Because he's victim weight?
Speaker 3: See ya? Do you know why they call me victim weight?
Speaker 3: Deebo says, anybody under two hundred pounds is victim weight.
Speaker 3: That's you will know, man, I want I want to
Speaker 3: that's a Magiti statement, right, not just statement. I'm changing
Speaker 3: it to with it Joe.
Speaker 1: You can, Joe.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to put it to at least the bitch fresh.
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm like, I'm won eighty five, but I
Speaker 3: could throw the two twenty five ten times, then I
Speaker 3: don't feel like a victim. Then I can get somebody
Speaker 3: up off me. You know what I'm saying. Look see,
Speaker 3: look he's being nice. He doesn't believe it. He believes them,
Speaker 3: don't he doth a victim?
Speaker 1: He know that?
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: How far you drive a golf ball?
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know all like that.
Speaker 1: You ain't even got clubs, do you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I do have clubs. But I ever played in in
Speaker 2: a decade, probably in ten.
Speaker 3: Years, I would say I played.
Speaker 1: I played more than you.
Speaker 2: You played recent more than that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played.
Speaker 1: I played last year, Yeah last I'm gonna play again
Speaker 1: this year. I just ain't gonna drive the ball I want, man,
Speaker 1: I pulled my delt.
Speaker 2: Here's my problem with golf. When I first came to
Speaker 2: the league, I played, but only like four or five
Speaker 2: times a year, And I'm thinking I should be getting
Speaker 2: better every time I played, But then I would get worse.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I could spend four hours of my
Speaker 2: life doing something that I actually enjoy as mad for
Speaker 2: four hours and frustrated trying to find these golf that
Speaker 2: the wood, you know, yeah, like the fish, Yeah, a
Speaker 2: little bit, yep.
Speaker 1: Do a little bit of fishing.
Speaker 3: That'stle bit of hunting, a little bit of shooting.
Speaker 1: You can want.
Speaker 2: If you're fishing and you're not the fish aren't catching,
Speaker 2: you are biting, you could just leave. You're not stuck
Speaker 2: on the course for four hours.
Speaker 1: I'm stuck there.
Speaker 3: If you look, you could do nine holes too, or
Speaker 3: you could just leave whenever you want. And normally though,
Speaker 3: if you have.
Speaker 1: Paid that whole bunch of money, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't just leave you Joe for golf. I can't
Speaker 2: leave you in the middle of the game.
Speaker 3: If you get if you get upset, I'm gonna be like, man,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not even that you know, definitely because
Speaker 3: the one thing I want to have.
Speaker 2: Because it's gonna make you feel better when you how
Speaker 2: bad I am, You're gonna feel about your.
Speaker 3: You get as many mulligans as you want. Mulligans, Mulligans debo.
Speaker 3: You know what mulligan is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you just I give mine away, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you get mulligans that you strong. You just missing
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 1: I stopped swinging, Joe. I'm trying to tell you, I
Speaker 1: don't drive the ball no more. If it ain't a putt,
Speaker 1: I don't even I'm not. I'm not that ain't. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sit around there. I'm gonna gone ahead. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: smoke on my guard. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: I'm drink my I'm gonna drink my za. I drink zevia.
Speaker 3: You know that it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's no no alcohol, so it ain't no sugar,
Speaker 1: no nothing like that. And then I go ahead, and
Speaker 1: you know you're good to chop it up. I talk
Speaker 1: trash actually when I get there. When I first get there,
Speaker 1: I talk so much ship that they like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: he's good. And then they realize I ain't got no clubs,
Speaker 1: I ain't got I ain't got no ain't got no shoes,
Speaker 1: I ain't got I ain't got nothing to go with golf.
Speaker 1: I ain't even got a glove. But they be scared
Speaker 1: until they because I talk him.
Speaker 3: Do you have your you have your shirt tucked?
Speaker 1: Then do you have a collar shirt on?
Speaker 3: Dude, I look the part, look like, okay, you got
Speaker 3: the belt and everything. Okay, all right, I got the belt.
Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta have a belt. You gotta have a
Speaker 3: shirt tucked in. Yeah, okay, little puff out on it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You seeing the guns is out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they scared too. They're like, oh this
Speaker 1: this boleless golf the world.
Speaker 3: In a mile.
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you. I don't drive it no further than
Speaker 1: about three seventy five.
Speaker 2: You got too many muscles to swing.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. If you heard what he said,
Speaker 3: no rotation.
Speaker 1: You ain't played in ten years. I will take you
Speaker 1: out there with you.
Speaker 3: Heard what Deebo said. He said he tore his his
Speaker 3: delt trying to swing the golf club.
Speaker 1: I was swinging too.
Speaker 3: Happened. That's what I'm saying. You're not supposed to think.
Speaker 2: I think I could beat Debo.
Speaker 3: And that's a fact. Right now, I know you could.
Speaker 3: You know what, that's a fact.
Speaker 1: You coming up? Yeah, you coming up for the draft,
Speaker 1: right yeah, Oh, don't worry about it. We'll get it together,
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: Together, put it together air nine whole. I'm gonna bring
Speaker 2: about three boxes of golf balls? How many more?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes? How many holes?
Speaker 3: Were playing nine holes?
Speaker 2: We can't play a team, will be I.
Speaker 1: Mean how many? How many? How many? How many? How
Speaker 1: many you said nine holes? How many balls is in
Speaker 1: each box?
Speaker 2: Twelve?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Right, dude, would only need about twenty see no nine holes? Right,
Speaker 1: only nine?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be there for this.
Speaker 1: Gonna be he gonna be jotting stuff off lift and
Speaker 1: right too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, you know the you know the rules.
Speaker 3: I'm coming with the rules for sure, the rules. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: Debo talking about he gonna need twenty ball he you're
Speaker 3: just gonna need to make sure double bogie and we're
Speaker 3: gonna beat Debot.
Speaker 1: What's the double boge? Two par If it's a.
Speaker 3: Part four and you make six, that's a double bogee.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be working about quadruples. Sing tumple Bogey's.
Speaker 1: Like if it's it's a three, I'm doing it too.
Speaker 3: See that's a birdie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I do. And I egle.
Speaker 3: I see like we got him coming, like.
Speaker 1: Back twenty dollars, she said a few players in NFL
Speaker 1: history have their name chanted by the home crowd every
Speaker 1: single time they touched the ball. How much did that
Speaker 1: support and influence your play style? And did and did
Speaker 1: you feel did you ever feel extra pressure to deliver
Speaker 1: when you heard it.
Speaker 2: I think it was more probably just just you felt
Speaker 2: the love from the city of Pittsburgh and how much
Speaker 2: you know, I think I only played in Pittsburgh, but
Speaker 2: I can only imagine, like Pittsburgh's kind of unique. It's
Speaker 2: like a It's like a small town with big city amenities,
Speaker 2: I say. And the reason I say that is because
Speaker 2: everybody loves their teams like it's all whether it's the Penguins,
Speaker 2: the Pirates when they're good, the Steelers, the whole city
Speaker 2: is behind you, like everywhere you go, they got on
Speaker 2: black and yellow. They know what's going on with the team.
Speaker 2: They're wishing you luck. So you know, that was just
Speaker 2: kind of like you just felt the love from the
Speaker 2: city and how much they appreciated what you were doing
Speaker 2: for the team and and the hard work that you
Speaker 2: were trying to put in.
Speaker 3: That was a.
Speaker 1: Covenant life back again. Joe five dollars coving it. She said.
Speaker 1: Will Howard came from old money. That's why I call
Speaker 1: him country club.
Speaker 3: But when he show out this year, he will be
Speaker 3: Iron Club. Will hush, de Bo, you ain't like you
Speaker 3: ain't like the nickname. No, hey, listen, Covenant Life. Covenant
Speaker 3: Life is a great supporter.
Speaker 1: She's she's number one, number one fan of d Bo
Speaker 1: and Joe.
Speaker 3: But she was calling Will Howard country club, Will Club?
Speaker 1: What I like the country club? He you want to
Speaker 1: be called country club? He don't that sound soft?
Speaker 4: You can't be Yeah, you can't be the quarterback of
Speaker 4: the Steelers, right, Damn I got that when you said
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 2: That's like a Cardinals quarterback or something like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is blue collar.
Speaker 2: We're too blue collar in the saying have a quarterback?
Speaker 1: Ain't doing that.
Speaker 3: I'm listening to Heath. I'm listening. I'm listening. You're correct,
Speaker 3: You're correct. Iron I'm the one that was being too
Speaker 3: Iron Club. Okay, covered it like came with a better one,
Speaker 3: Iron Club. Devots.
Speaker 1: If he said iron you no more, I'm give you
Speaker 1: Iron Club. Will I give you that country club? That's
Speaker 1: just so soft, like I'm coming to the country club
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 3: Know, bad, my bad, that's my bad. I stay corrected
Speaker 3: more in.
Speaker 1: My life back again twenty dollars. He said, he, you
Speaker 1: had two super Bowl wins? How many joke?
Speaker 3: I'm starting?
Speaker 1: Oh, but I was, I was reading. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I was reading a lot. She said, he you have
Speaker 1: two super Bowl wins. But was it but it was
Speaker 1: the latter for me. Would you rate that game against
Speaker 1: the Jets part of the top moments or was there
Speaker 1: a quieter play that was top for you? That thirty
Speaker 1: one yard snatch and grab was fired?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 2: I don't know top play for me personally. My second year,
Speaker 2: I scored an eighty seven yard touchdown on Cleveland season
Speaker 2: Charlie bashed through that.
Speaker 3: That was on Cleveland, good old Charlie.
Speaker 2: No, that was against the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: That was against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Man Joe said, he made you fumble?
Speaker 3: Oh pop you?
Speaker 1: He was like, I made he Maybe I put my head.
Speaker 1: I put won the game.
Speaker 3: I did one time. I did one time.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: He said. He said, he said, he said he fired
Speaker 1: off on he.
Speaker 3: I didn't say it like that.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, did you win?
Speaker 3: He was like, no, we lost, for sure. We lost.
Speaker 3: It was a Thursday. It was a Thursday night game.
Speaker 2: We lost Hey, I will I will say when Joe
Speaker 2: was maybe your rookie second year, I called him all
Speaker 2: the flask and I'm going to give it to Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm going to welcome him to this, you know, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To give it to this lead.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I got it pretty good. And
Speaker 2: I looked up and he was up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I felt like I got a little helmet, you know,
Speaker 2: I got my pretty He kind of just walking back
Speaker 2: to hol Okay, Joe.
Speaker 3: Thank you people. I tried to I'm not I wasn't
Speaker 3: afraid I would go on my list.
Speaker 1: So you had on shoulder pads and all the other ship.
Speaker 1: You might have been two hundred.
Speaker 3: I'm two hundred with my shoulder pass a helmet.
Speaker 1: That's hey. But you ain't no more. You don't play
Speaker 1: the game. You can't do it, you won't do it.
Speaker 1: Refuse to do it, y'all.
Speaker 3: Y'all are funny. I appreciate that he for letting me
Speaker 3: telling Deebo that I that you know that I'm out
Speaker 3: here hitting. I'm not just avoiding.
Speaker 1: Hey, he would not hold up he said he wouldn't
Speaker 1: hold up the receiver if I was running in to
Speaker 1: come smacking. But I tell I'd be like, I hold
Speaker 1: him up, holding on. I hold him up, and I
Speaker 1: come in there and I put that oo we on.
Speaker 1: He said he wouldn't do that. Ain't that sof.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's between you guys. Why not Joe?
Speaker 3: Why not Joe?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to That's the long That's where the longevity
Speaker 3: in the league comes in. If I'm still sitting there
Speaker 3: holding him and Debo comes and hits me and puts
Speaker 3: me to sleep, then I'm trying to play still. I'm
Speaker 3: just make the tackle. Get him down. People, hold him up,
Speaker 3: hold him up. He's running over there full speed. I'm
Speaker 3: like this, How do I know where you're gonna launch
Speaker 3: a missile? You're gonna hit both of us.
Speaker 1: As long as you hold him him up. He gets
Speaker 1: it all right, you know what?
Speaker 3: I hold him up on.
Speaker 1: I go beyond. Don't worry about it. I don't worry
Speaker 1: about Ike, go beyond. And he gonna tell you it
Speaker 1: was only one time he went to sleep, and that's
Speaker 1: because he let him drop.
Speaker 3: Dude with dead way and just he would you hold
Speaker 3: him up if he was on there? You playing safety?
Speaker 3: If you're playing safety, Debos, hold him up, Heath.
Speaker 1: I'm coming.
Speaker 2: Maybe so, Yeah, I think so that's a man for real.
Speaker 1: He don't got the mentality of it either, didn't.
Speaker 2: I though I took one. Did Lord Dog get Ike
Speaker 2: one time in Carolina?
Speaker 1: And you know, Lord Dog run around like a blind
Speaker 1: dog in the meat that's trying to hit. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he hit him.
Speaker 3: He hit Yes, So I got hit. You got de Bo?
Speaker 1: You got Ike once?
Speaker 3: And then he him.
Speaker 1: He didn't go to the league though. I got him up,
Speaker 1: walk him up and he still played. And I covered
Speaker 1: him that place so he could get his marbles back.
Speaker 1: Oh good you de Bo.
Speaker 2: He'll wake you up.
Speaker 3: He wake that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: You know, listen, I put you. You stay in the game, baby, Sure,
Speaker 1: you stay in the game. Now. He got to got
Speaker 1: to this beautiful.
Speaker 2: That's how nice a guy is. What a friend?
Speaker 3: What a friend?
Speaker 1: Definitely? Definitely man, definitely he man. I want to thank
Speaker 1: you for joining us, brother. I will see you at
Speaker 1: the draft for sure. When you when you getting in.
Speaker 2: I think I'm coming on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Okay, hit me up. When you get it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be obviously you go probably head over the keysers.
Speaker 2: Right probably at some point. Yeah, we'll get together we'll
Speaker 2: get together though, we'll get together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be yeah. Matter of fact, Joe will
Speaker 1: be here then too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm staying on. I'm just standing on. I'm
Speaker 3: pulling up on de Bo. I'm staying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's staying. He's staying over here. So so everythings
Speaker 1: gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Hey man, you know, if I need to bring my clubs,
Speaker 2: we'll make the wager.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, whatever you want to do, whatever you.
Speaker 2: Practice, what I got a week? I gotta the practice, good.
Speaker 1: Guy, I ain't. I don't even need the practice. I
Speaker 1: don't even need the practice. That's that practice overrated. We're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: My money on you.
Speaker 2: I feel I feel confident about it, Joe. I feel good.
Speaker 1: We're talking about practice.
Speaker 2: I watched The Masters yesterday, so I'm good to go.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's all to take you to watch? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna go watch the
Speaker 1: repeat of it. No, I ain't doing that. I can't
Speaker 1: do that, bro, I can't do that. I can't sit
Speaker 1: there and watch. I just it ain't it. Ain't watched
Speaker 1: the highlights, Yeah, I didn't watched the last highlights.
Speaker 2: Did you see how narrow it is that those guys
Speaker 2: got to drive through a Yes, that was crazy.
Speaker 3: And then my man, Roy he still kind of threw
Speaker 3: it in the pine.
Speaker 2: Stray and then he yeah, he got them about he
Speaker 2: got out.
Speaker 3: Out of there.
Speaker 1: Man. Whatever. Man, I see you when you get here. Man,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Thankhith Miller for showing up.
Speaker 2: The good word.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you man. I will see you on
Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday, if not sometime around there. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we gonna go to the barn Joe yep, yeah for
Speaker 1: show for show, for show, Heath, Quiezel, a couple of
Speaker 1: other boys, all the other stuff. Man, guys, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us on this episode of D Boy and Joe.
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